Dude I wanted tail devils SO bad but my parents refused to buy them for me. Also, the plastic ramps were great for sticking up against curbs and using them to gap over grass medians. They don’t slide around this way. When you live in a skateparkless town with no good spots you have to get creative.
Yeah I agree with the ramps. I had that exact X-Factor ramp and the rubber feet on it was sticky af on the hot asphalt so it never really slipped. I would get massive ollies if you timed them right, since they're pretty short it takes a little while to get used to
Even when you do that they tiny plastic lip on the front of the ramps is bound to bend up after some use and you'll end up clipping on it just trying to launch
They were great for a while until the lip on the bottom of the ramp got flipped up over time from hitting it so many times and it essentially turned into a skate stopper😂
Did you at least have some "rims" for your trucks. I can't remember if it was like shorty's or grind king or who made them but those aftermarket axel nuts that had a wide protective shield that looked abnoxious at the time but looking back they low key def protected your bearings and bearing shields...but obviously we all wanted them because why would you not want a custom set of rims for your shred sled. Bitches love shiny rims
Also a lighter or the tail devils don't have flint in them they have ferrocerium in them or people just call them ferro rods people get them for camping
I don't care what you say, TailDevils and Avenue Trucks are both rad as hell. To be fair, I mostly cruised, filmed and bombed hills in my day. So, I can't speak to how things are for tricks that much because I could barely kickflip on a good day.
It's true though, my friend had one. It never broke but the tail and nose slowly got smaller and sharper. At one point he couldn't do nose or tail grabs 🤦♂️😆
Someone I knew in high school got the nickname One-nut because the shaved down tail on his board severed his bag in half when he pogo slammed when trying to jump off a kicker ramp.
Z rollers were bad for skating but up until the early 2000s they were used for downhill skating and street luge because of the floating axle. It helped with safety if one of your bearings seized at speed
Skate trainers are useless, it’s like not learning to ride a Bike but trying to bunny hop on it, same scenario you should be able to ride your board comfortably before learning to Ollie, shuvit etc
@@monstahhvr2695 even if you can ride the board comfortably, it really helps to be able to get over the fear of moving when you land again. Practicing stationary is helpful to get a feel of the motion. I used them to learn the ollie and probably won't use them for anything else but they are very helpful to get over the fear of moving when trying a stationary trick
Have to disagree about the Powell one. While the board itself may have been fairly bad, it was likely the start point of what became the flight deck. Which in my opinion makes it quite important.
Powell already had fibreglass reinforced deck's long before the bonite stuff. They stopped making them as the seven ply was a cheaper alternative. Santa Cruz did a black top series for a while but they didn't work too well. I suspect that now that the sport has gone big time again manufacturers can start messing around with materials again. Hence we have the Powell flite deck's. I guess that it won't be long before there's more weird and wonderful ideas wandering down the path. Lol 😆😆😈
Tail devils really aren't the worst. Not every skateboarding item is supposed to make you a better skater. Items can also be fun or impressive, which a tail devil definitely does if you are powerstopping in front of your friends after you showed up cassually late🤪
If I’m not mistaken, the boneite boards also had poplar plies as well as the boneite material. Those boards were heavy and had as much pop as a rain drenched copy of the National Enquirer
Remember those boards that were made with a sheet of fiberglass through the middle of the plies? Kinda like the Element fiberlight boards. These were from a different company though. Kinda like the Boneote boards but these came out in the early 2000s. Also, the Black Label six ply boards that were supposed to be lighter, but I had a Patrick Melcher board that broke in half doing a board slide on a little flat rail.
I was not a fan of Powell boards at that time. My friends would break their bonite boards send them in to Powell and they would send new ones back. Took weeks and they couldn't skate without a board.
That rock shovel is hilarious. I stopped falling on rocks decades ago by getting rid of super tiny wheels and shifting my weight to rear more... Doesn't take a ROCKet scientist to figure out :D
i had one of those aircraft decks! they were too stiff and when you went to board slide you would get hucked because the aluminum is softer. my dad picked me up a prototype before they came out.
I remember in the early 80 seeing the santa cruz and Powell graphics it looked beyond cool to me as a kid. I wouldn't start skating until 10 years later
I've gotta say two things here...Avenue trucks: TBH I haven't tried them on my regular board but I've got a set on my cruiser and I can roll over occasional cobbles and biggish cracks like it's nothing, I've popped down a couple of 3 and 4 stairs and they deffo make a difference (full disclosure I'm 44) and...the low-key dissing of Grind King throughout this video kinda isn't fair, sure Donald has made a couple of kooky products but he has also introduced some things that are real game changers....the dude has a sense of humour (re: bearing rims) I mean this dude sold fukn VELVET coated trucks!
True that. I rode GKs for years until they went out. Which was about when I stopped riding for a while. Coincidentally, when I started getting more serious again, they came back, so it's like I never left home.
I’ve got avenues on one of my boards, comfy ride. I like my tensor mag lights on my board as well but the avenues are so weird to ride on if you haven’t. Still weird for me if I haven’t been on them in a while. They’re good, just a bit weird if they’re not regular for you
I remember when I was 7, my buddy had one of those plastic ramps with a rail behind it. It was bolted into the driveway but my wheels stopped as soon as they touched ramp. I flew off, hit the back of my head and all I could see was white for a few minutes. Scary shit but now everytime I go to the barber they are sure to remind me the missing hair on the back of my head was already there 😂
I believe it ...I broke 5 revolution 100% carbon fiber decks but most of em lasted about 2 years ! They had awsome pop and the slick bottom was great for boardslides but the company went under now I'm back to 7 ply Canadian maple...atleast I'm riding what most others do now but breaking a deck every 2 months if lucky is actually more expensive and the pop can go within a few days sometimes
Aluminum does amazing on a mountain bike(or any bicyle for that matter) , despite frame torsion when taking a drop of some kind , due to the aluminum frame being tubes connected in comparison to a nearly flat board with very little structural integrity. Aluminum does worse under stress when made to be flat considering the way skateboards are manufactured.
Hahaha dude I had one of those X-factor plastic ramps that you showed in the picture. You're totally right about the shifting tossing you off your board but we used to throw some 45lb weight plates underneath them and I actually held them in place pretty well. We used to fucking soar off those things back in the day lol
i requested tail devils every week at my local skate shops, called around & no one had them till finally they got an order of them. The worst part was the plastic would break by the screws / you would wear the screws down faster than the flynt & it would fall off. As a kid that gimmick was awesome however, sparking up the sidewalk as you stopped gave that same feeling you'd get pulling the rear brake & skidding on a BMX bike
I never owned any of these myself, but tail devils, rock deflectors, aluminum decks and those spring trucks all made it to my local parks at least once.
i feel like tail devils would be kinda sick if they weren't so bulky. like i'm thinking a little hole in the board for refillable flint would work, but idk i'm drunk
I swear to god one of the gnarliest slams I ever had was with that factor X plastic skate ramp over a mailbox. The little grips on the bottom of the ramp wore out so the ramp slid forward and my feet caught on the mail slot, my body stretched up with my feet caught and I slammed shoulder first into the pavement. Good thing we were taping. The video still makes it’s rounds now and again with my friends group because it was so rad
Skateboarding history is filled with gimmicks that have evolved or come and gone then sometimes came back. Wheels used to be made of a clay composite, G&S sold “Speed Sparks” and there was even a deck designed specifically for goofy foot riders.
Dude in my neighborhood back in the day had tail devils on both ends of his board and did all kind of tricks, another guy I knew that had multiple boards and nearly blew himself up when he decided to skate to the gas Station to fill up a Jerry can and forgot he was on the board with a tail devil xD
I had a plastic x factor ramp and we put it at the bottom of a hill, one of the neighbor kids hit it full speed on his BMX and the front tire broke through the ramp. Hardest faceplant I've ever witnessed. The dude was out cold
I actually can speak on this, my dad's company created, (I can't remember off hand since I was pretty young) either the original Sky Hooks, or he took the idea and changed them a bit. He had a plastic version and an aluminum version. His company was Xtreme Wheelz. The reason he made them wasn't for street skating, but for people going off road skating to have a bit more grip, but still be able to bail out if they needed to. Some people used them for other things, but that was the original idea.
@@breakingboxesmtg1585 I agree. I DIYed a pair way back in the day for something along those lines and if you were trying to simulate snowboarding they worked out pretty good actually
Frankie Hill was sponsored by Tail Devils. Can't blame him, it's money. The industry really screwed him over, anyway. He was the greatest, but everybody shunned him, made up some rumor that he sued Powell for getting injured while filming, destroying his knee on a nose bonk. There's a great documentary about him and his career. Tragic. Yeah, Frankie Hill never should have had to ride for Tail Devils. Edit: accidental nose bonk
@@jayadams2801 Well, I'll be. I guess you'd have to be fried to jump on that half-baked idea. Only joking. Oh, yeah, I forgot it was an accidental nose bonk.
@@jayadams2801 I know you meant friends, I just thought the typo was kinda funny. I didn't know that about Tail Devils. They were pretty gimmicky, no doubt intended for kids. Not that it's a bad product, it's just kind of a bummer what happened to his career, because he was really at the forefront of everything that was happening from the late 80's through the early 90's. If Powell would have seriously invested in getting his knee fixed, maybe they would have stayed more relevant with having another heavy hitter on their team besides Cab. Hill stayed loyal to Powell probably to his own detriment.
I had a air craft... it razored and cut the back of my thigh wide open. Luckily not sacked . . But boy I could olie like 16 plus inches thing was so light ..
When I was a kid, I wanted to get a piece of plexiglass and shape it into a popsicle shape deck so I could see the ground under me while skating but didn't think that clear grip tape was available.
I've got a set of avenues and I agree, as a trick deck truck, they blow hard. But I switched them onto my cruiser for street cruising, and I welcome the extra flex they offer for the crap roads and paths we have here.
2:50 ... "rendered your board useless, you couldn't do any tricks you couldn't pop at all" literally WHILE showing footage of a guy hitting a handrail and doing a treflip with them on...
First off Grind kings were way ahead of the times, I'd love to have the Grind King and Venture trucks I had in middle school. Also....Anybody remember Lib Technology slick boards with grooves in the bottom and had fiberglass or something every other layer so it was like impossible to focus your deck....but the pop would be long gone after a few months.
Lib tech sucks ...revolution rev decks were the best ....they were 100% carbon fiber incased in a hard plastic but not too much carbon fiber so it's still a skateboard....they were awsome just so dam expensive ...too bad they went under ...
@@russelljenkins6929 I'm sure they probably did suck...I was just curious if I was the only one who remembered them back in the "good ole days" of getting a new CCS mag that was about as fat as a chapter book and had decks and shoes from companies we couldn't find at a local skate shop on the east coast. But From my knowledge of Lib Tech they were like a snowboard company and then in like the mid 90's made a few decks. Seeing as how I was between the age of like 8-12 at the time I saw one in CCS and it had alternating layers of wood and fiberglass or possibly carbon fiber. (I have seen the new carbon fiber decks you're referring to though, but just like the libtech board I had...it lasted forever...like so long that we couldn't focus it if we tried. So as far as durability it was great, but it lost its pop in a month or two.
@@illmuskyhunter3313 I'll agree that shit did have pop, but after using it for like 8 months as a kid....I was dying to find a fat kid or someone who could break it in half for me so I would have a good excuse for my mom on why I needed a ride to the skate shop to get a new deck ( closest skate shop was 40ish miles from our house, so it was either snag a ride once or twice a year there. Or wait for the next CCS mag to find some stuff on sale haha)
I thought for sure you would have mentioned the The Ollie Strap. They had something like that a while back but was basically and innertube tied to the board.
Man I loved taildevils so much as a kid! Me and my cousin would pour high% alcohol on his little street and light it up with the taildevils lol those things were so much fun
We LOVED devil tails as kids Used to spend so much of our extra allowance on them. But it is true, it does take extra effort to get a pop for tricks and pending how many you had on, the weight did make a noticeable change. As we got older and they became harder to find, we just realized they were extra as hell And we were getting higher ollies and kick flips cause the long period of time having those on our decks made us stronger and popping and ollie. We cant lie though, the effect itself was really cool.
I rode a Banzai aluminum skateboard board back around '75-76, (without any grip tape) and not only did it get your shins, but it would also go for your Achilles (because Road Runner 2s would catch every little pebble and send you tumbling)..
"Tail Devil rendered your board useless. You couldn't pop" while showing a video of a dude tre flipping with a tail devil. That shit was dope back in the day
I remember Tail Devils first releasing when I was a kid (maybe 6th or 7th grade) and even I thought they were corny at that time. No actual benefit to having them and I don't know one person who ever had them on their board.
Wheelie Ball was around 1975 but cameras hadn't been invented yet, so little evidence exists. It was a steel ball in a cup that bolted to the tail and "supposedly" allowed "wheelies" though my experience was you just ground to a halt or became a meat crayon.
This video is so funny. Your jargon and methods of communicating your opinions are fucking hilarious. I have literally watched it for an hour straight rewinding and laughing.
I thought for sure you'd have Tracker sixtracks in this list. They were awesome, but had a tendency to break at the hanger way faster than any other truck. I used to skate back in the mid 80's, and the way we avoided, (for the most part), fart rocks was with softer wheels. My friends were rockin' the old Powell 85's and they were soft enough to compress, and allow the rocks to be rolled over. Not all the time, mind you, but way easier than the 97's lol.
I'm just really glad that no one followed through on the random idea I had when my high school physics teacher told us to invent something - I loved skating (still love watching edits) and had what I thought was a brilliant idea. I was going to make electromagnets that would sit outside the wheel and act on the metal to literally slow your roll. Wired up a battery pack, sliding rheostat so that it wasn't either on or off - it looked AWESOME. Rather, it LOOKED awesome. 1. It didn't work. Like, AT ALL. 2. If it HAD worked, it would have been bad because of momentum (not the wheels, I was trying this on Kryptos and OJs back in the 80s). When you brake on a bike, you have something keeping you from going forward. On a skateboard ... yeah. It was probably a mercy it didn't work. If it had, the battery pack and wiring and weight would have made it only "useful" for longboards. On the bright side, I learned how to make electromagnets from scratch, learned to do some rudimentary soldering and wiring, and learned a REALLY bad way to stop a skateboard. That all yielded knowledge, and that's progress, right? ;)
I ride eboards and the hub motors are pretty much braking like this and I have to say staying on the board while braking not too strong isn't that hard, especially if you have a drop down deck then you can brake actually fairly hard
So all I would have needed to do is invent a new type of board and add a motor? Thank you, sincerely. It's good to know that I was kind of onto something 😁
Ha ha, I remember those aluminum decks! 'Hey, let's give the kids giant flying guillotine blades to play with!' The best idea since lawn darts. But those Tail Devils look like big fun.
Anyone remember those decks that had the thin plastic bottom to slow wear from slides? I think they were made by birdhouse, but I had to superglue so many gashes on my shins because how sharp it got.
Was about to comment something about how tail devils were sick as fuck, but seems like half the comments beat me to it. Definitely a fluke to include it on this list...
You ain't lying about that aluminum aircraft deck. Had one road for less than a month before it razor tailed and gouged my shin and gave it away right after. And it was loud as hell also lbvs. Only thing it had going for it was being super light
Tail devils are dope. Threw that puppy on my patchwork ghetto cruiser, and had a whale of a time.
Thank you!
Everyone hates on tail devils until someone rolls up with one, then everybody's gotta try it out
Whale of a time 😆
Tail devil's are dope.
Ok boomer
@@NotoriousRideFilms my man still sayin “ok boomer” … have a blessed day
Dude I wanted tail devils SO bad but my parents refused to buy them for me. Also, the plastic ramps were great for sticking up against curbs and using them to gap over grass medians. They don’t slide around this way. When you live in a skateparkless town with no good spots you have to get creative.
Yeah I agree with the ramps. I had that exact X-Factor ramp and the rubber feet on it was sticky af on the hot asphalt so it never really slipped. I would get massive ollies if you timed them right, since they're pretty short it takes a little while to get used to
Even when you do that they tiny plastic lip on the front of the ramps is bound to bend up after some use and you'll end up clipping on it just trying to launch
They were great for a while until the lip on the bottom of the ramp got flipped up over time from hitting it so many times and it essentially turned into a skate stopper😂
Did you at least have some "rims" for your trucks. I can't remember if it was like shorty's or grind king or who made them but those aftermarket axel nuts that had a wide protective shield that looked abnoxious at the time but looking back they low key def protected your bearings and bearing shields...but obviously we all wanted them because why would you not want a custom set of rims for your shred sled. Bitches love shiny rims
100% I lived in a small village and our go to was a scaffold pole with half a brick at back end which you had to try and break evenly 🤣
aluminum and steel are not interchangeable words
Preach.
"You can't fix Stupid."
Board made out of aluminum = razor sharp piece of steel 😂
Also a lighter or the tail devils don't have flint in them they have ferrocerium in them or people just call them ferro rods people get them for camping
Well one of those words doesn't even exist lad.
I don't care what you say, TailDevils and Avenue Trucks are both rad as hell.
To be fair, I mostly cruised, filmed and bombed hills in my day. So, I can't speak to how things are for tricks that much because I could barely kickflip on a good day.
We used to drill tiny holes in the rear hanger and super glued lighter flints in them that sparked during slappies and coping grinds.
Bullshit
Grind King now makes a truck that has flints built into them. They're okay.
We used to put flint's in copers back in the day. Great fun. Flint's in the trucks hanger. Didn't work so good. Still worked but not as good. 😈
I used to ride magnesium Gullwing Street Shadows and they would spark like hell. No flint required.
You're everywhere I go on TH-cam lmao
Bro, the "we're talking testicles on the floor, cos your bag got ripped open thanks to airplane aluminum" line killed me.
😂 😂 😂
It's true though, my friend had one. It never broke but the tail and nose slowly got smaller and sharper. At one point he couldn't do nose or tail grabs 🤦♂️😆
@@ShredzShop Steel ≠ Aluminum
Someone I knew in high school got the nickname One-nut because the shaved down tail on his board severed his bag in half when he pogo slammed when trying to jump off a kicker ramp.
I had one boy did it get sharp after a few months
Z rollers were bad for skating but up until the early 2000s they were used for downhill skating and street luge because of the floating axle. It helped with safety if one of your bearings seized at speed
The seem like a great idea if they could be made with a more durable material.
That is absolutely fascinating information, and totally makes sense!
Hmmm floating axle?
Sounds like something food for gas powered board time
I had tail devils when I was like 12. Shits were awesome no I want them again. And I love how you didn’t even mention skate trainers
Had one on my Zip Zinger. Shit was hella fun.
Skate trainers are actually pretty helpful though. Really helped me get the confidence to start ollieing on the concrete
look em up. they are Back
Skate trainers are useless, it’s like not learning to ride a Bike but trying to bunny hop on it, same scenario you should be able to ride your board comfortably before learning to Ollie, shuvit etc
@@monstahhvr2695 even if you can ride the board comfortably, it really helps to be able to get over the fear of moving when you land again. Practicing stationary is helpful to get a feel of the motion. I used them to learn the ollie and probably won't use them for anything else but they are very helpful to get over the fear of moving when trying a stationary trick
Have to disagree about the Powell one. While the board itself may have been fairly bad, it was likely the start point of what became the flight deck. Which in my opinion makes it quite important.
Powell already had fibreglass reinforced deck's long before the bonite stuff. They stopped making them as the seven ply was a cheaper alternative. Santa Cruz did a black top series for a while but they didn't work too well. I suspect that now that the sport has gone big time again manufacturers can start messing around with materials again. Hence we have the Powell flite deck's. I guess that it won't be long before there's more weird and wonderful ideas wandering down the path. Lol 😆😆😈
Right. But it was still a shit board. Sooooo failed product? Yes. Start of something greater? Yes.
I agree hopefully the flight deck is worth it in the next few testing years if na than na its just the start i hope its bad ass tho
Wasn't the powell bonite...deck called powel X T
Nah, Boneite was awful. Would de-lam so quick.
The tail devils on an old cruiser with a curb hopper, rails and a ripping grip job sounds fun
Tail devils really aren't the worst. Not every skateboarding item is supposed to make you a better skater. Items can also be fun or impressive, which a tail devil definitely does if you are powerstopping in front of your friends after you showed up cassually late🤪
can it set your board on fire?
@@leojimenez9702no fire hazard involved. It's just a few flints for sparkly fun
if you were 8 with heelies and lightup sneakers maybe. shit was lame not impressive lol
@@Kotaburnsmany guys over 20 would disagree with you mate
@@Kotaburnsyou must be fun at parties
The delivery on this was actually hilarious, man. lol
Stoked you enjoyed!! 🙏🏻👊🏻
the tail devil got chicks
If I’m not mistaken, the boneite boards also had poplar plies as well as the boneite material. Those boards were heavy and had as much pop as a rain drenched copy of the National Enquirer
😂😭😂
Remember those boards that were made with a sheet of fiberglass through the middle of the plies? Kinda like the Element fiberlight boards. These were from a different company though. Kinda like the Boneote boards but these came out in the early 2000s. Also, the Black Label six ply boards that were supposed to be lighter, but I had a Patrick Melcher board that broke in half doing a board slide on a little flat rail.
I was not a fan of Powell boards at that time. My friends would break their bonite boards send them in to Powell and they would send new ones back. Took weeks and they couldn't skate without a board.
@@vegasjason7 None of you friends had a spare deck lying around?
That rock shovel is hilarious. I stopped falling on rocks decades ago by getting rid of super tiny wheels and shifting my weight to rear more... Doesn't take a ROCKet scientist to figure out :D
Actually that's exactly what it takes 😂jk you're right though
Same here put pressure on the tail carve around rocks when you can ride bigger wheels ...half the time they will just pop away from the wheels
I guess it's supposed to be like a cow catcher on a train but skateboards and trains are not the same
Shifting ur weight works until you have to pop. That's when the rocks get me :(
Honestly, the host of this video is hilarious!! Thank you so much!!
Thank you! This is hyper inflate Levi's ego...
i had one of those aircraft decks! they were too stiff and when you went to board slide you would get hucked because the aluminum is softer. my dad picked me up a prototype before they came out.
Aircraft would be sick if they tweaked the design a bit ....explosive
Pop for sure
I remember in the early 80 seeing the santa cruz and Powell graphics it looked beyond cool to me as a kid. I wouldn't start skating until 10 years later
Grind King definitely had some average products in their time, but they were always trying to innovate, so I have to give them props for that.
I still have my original pair or grind kings trucks and I fully stand buy that product more than any other
the original Grind King bolts were a genuine good idea, rode them for a few years
I loved my Grind King Kingpins!
When I was a kid and just starting to skate the tail devil was a Must have.
I've gotta say two things here...Avenue trucks: TBH I haven't tried them on my regular board but I've got a set on my cruiser and I can roll over occasional cobbles and biggish cracks like it's nothing, I've popped down a couple of 3 and 4 stairs and they deffo make a difference (full disclosure I'm 44) and...the low-key dissing of Grind King throughout this video kinda isn't fair, sure Donald has made a couple of kooky products but he has also introduced some things that are real game changers....the dude has a sense of humour (re: bearing rims) I mean this dude sold fukn VELVET coated trucks!
True that. I rode GKs for years until they went out. Which was about when I stopped riding for a while. Coincidentally, when I started getting more serious again, they came back, so it's like I never left home.
I’ve got avenues on one of my boards, comfy ride. I like my tensor mag lights on my board as well but the avenues are so weird to ride on if you haven’t. Still weird for me if I haven’t been on them in a while. They’re good, just a bit weird if they’re not regular for you
Avenue trucks are legit and shouldn't be on the list. They work. That said, it's not for everybody.
Grind kings are good trucks but all the weird shit that grind king has made is like wtf lol
Tail Devil reminds me of Glo Wax from snowboarding. Idk how well the wax actually working because I never actually put it on my stick.
I remember when I was 7, my buddy had one of those plastic ramps with a rail behind it. It was bolted into the driveway but my wheels stopped as soon as they touched ramp. I flew off, hit the back of my head and all I could see was white for a few minutes. Scary shit but now everytime I go to the barber they are sure to remind me the missing hair on the back of my head was already there 😂
Thanks for linking the tail devils article. Cool orgin!
Grind king rims where awesome. Never had dirty build up issue. Mine stayed cleaner forsure.
u installed em right
Same! I was like what is this guy talking about I never had those issues 😑
He didn't tighten them enough you can't leave space between em they work well Bearings just aren't expensive...for the most part
Hold up Tail Devils were the shit
You know you ain’t getting younger when you say wwf instead of wwe too. Knee surgery gang forever
I totally caught that too.
Getting a shinner from the aircraft deck was BRUTAL!
Man tail devils rock !!! Wish they still made'em 😪 best fun ever
They actually are making them again, and I guess they’re skater owned. So that’s kinda rad
@@ShredzShop sick 🤙
A friend of mine growing up actually broke 2 of those aluminum decks despite them being indestructible.
I believe it ...I broke 5 revolution 100% carbon fiber decks but most of em lasted about 2 years ! They had awsome pop and the slick bottom was great for boardslides but the company went under now I'm back to 7 ply Canadian maple...atleast I'm riding what most others do now but breaking a deck every 2 months if lucky is actually more expensive and the pop can go within a few days sometimes
@@russelljenkins6929 i remember back in the day my brother bought a carbon layer board and it was from Blind
Aluminum does amazing on a mountain bike(or any bicyle for that matter) , despite frame torsion when taking a drop of some kind , due to the aluminum frame being tubes connected in comparison to a nearly flat board with very little structural integrity. Aluminum does worse under stress when made to be flat considering the way skateboards are manufactured.
Hahaha dude I had one of those X-factor plastic ramps that you showed in the picture. You're totally right about the shifting tossing you off your board but we used to throw some 45lb weight plates underneath them and I actually held them in place pretty well.
We used to fucking soar off those things back in the day lol
i requested tail devils every week at my local skate shops, called around & no one had them till finally they got an order of them. The worst part was the plastic would break by the screws / you would wear the screws down faster than the flynt & it would fall off. As a kid that gimmick was awesome however, sparking up the sidewalk as you stopped gave that same feeling you'd get pulling the rear brake & skidding on a BMX bike
That trampoline scenario came deep from his heart…. Lol
😅
I never owned any of these myself, but tail devils, rock deflectors, aluminum decks and those spring trucks all made it to my local parks at least once.
ive never seen the rock deflector in real life haha
It’s crazy how many of these products actually caused the issues they claimed to solve, or worse!
Everyone who’s seen my avenues loved em after trying 🤷🏾♂️
street cleaning actually tears up my street and creates more rocks!
Dude tail devils are so sick! Always remember the ads being the coolest.
Possibly one of the funniest videos I’ve watched, the delivery was 10/10
Tail devils were so awesome as a kid, used to put a little gasoline on the concrete and go over it to make a little flame
i feel like tail devils would be kinda sick if they weren't so bulky. like i'm thinking a little hole in the board for refillable flint would work, but idk i'm drunk
tail devils sounds like a wildfire waiting to happen. My friend had an aircraft board. But his shins were always so damn bloody.
Boohoo karen
Seeing a tail devil just made me feel so nastolgic
I swear to god one of the gnarliest slams I ever had was with that factor X plastic skate ramp over a mailbox. The little grips on the bottom of the ramp wore out so the ramp slid forward and my feet caught on the mail slot, my body stretched up with my feet caught and I slammed shoulder first into the pavement. Good thing we were taping. The video still makes it’s rounds now and again with my friends group because it was so rad
That sounds horrible!! I need to see that footy! 😂😂
Skateboarding history is filled with gimmicks that have evolved or come and gone then sometimes came back. Wheels used to be made of a clay composite, G&S sold “Speed Sparks” and there was even a deck designed specifically for goofy foot riders.
Dude in my neighborhood back in the day had tail devils on both ends of his board and did all kind of tricks, another guy I knew that had multiple boards and nearly blew himself up when he decided to skate to the gas Station to fill up a Jerry can and forgot he was on the board with a tail devil xD
I had a plastic x factor ramp and we put it at the bottom of a hill, one of the neighbor kids hit it full speed on his BMX and the front tire broke through the ramp. Hardest faceplant I've ever witnessed. The dude was out cold
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Thanks guys for taking my idea and making on the Cut. Big love from Québec City 🇨🇦💖🤜🏻💢🤛🏻💯💯💯
Yo! Thanks for the idea 💡 We appreciate it! 🙌🏻
Ahahaha that part about the avenue trucks had my sides ahaha
I dunno... Tail devils were pretty sick. Needed skills to use em.
i got that gabriel rodriguez hangin on my wall too, super dope
You missed “Sky hooks” anyone in the 80’s would remember those.
Yea. They were nice idea. Totally thown out of the ball park by the Ollie. 😈
I actually can speak on this, my dad's company created, (I can't remember off hand since I was pretty young) either the original Sky Hooks, or he took the idea and changed them a bit. He had a plastic version and an aluminum version. His company was Xtreme Wheelz. The reason he made them wasn't for street skating, but for people going off road skating to have a bit more grip, but still be able to bail out if they needed to. Some people used them for other things, but that was the original idea.
There was an ad of someone getting air out of a concrete snake run if my addled memory serves
@@breakingboxesmtg1585 I agree. I DIYed a pair way back in the day for something along those lines and if you were trying to simulate snowboarding they worked out pretty good actually
Frankie Hill was sponsored by Tail Devils. Can't blame him, it's money. The industry really screwed him over, anyway. He was the greatest, but everybody shunned him, made up some rumor that he sued Powell for getting injured while filming, destroying his knee on a nose bonk. There's a great documentary about him and his career. Tragic. Yeah, Frankie Hill never should have had to ride for Tail Devils.
Edit: accidental nose bonk
Frankie was actually fried with the inventor and did it as a favor and not for money.
@@jayadams2801 Well, I'll be. I guess you'd have to be fried to jump on that half-baked idea. Only joking. Oh, yeah, I forgot it was an accidental nose bonk.
i meant to say friends. The guy who invented them was top photographer at Thrasher and shot Frankie all the time.
@@jayadams2801 I know you meant friends, I just thought the typo was kinda funny. I didn't know that about Tail Devils. They were pretty gimmicky, no doubt intended for kids. Not that it's a bad product, it's just kind of a bummer what happened to his career, because he was really at the forefront of everything that was happening from the late 80's through the early 90's. If Powell would have seriously invested in getting his knee fixed, maybe they would have stayed more relevant with having another heavy hitter on their team besides Cab. Hill stayed loyal to Powell probably to his own detriment.
Great video, I'm a father and I believe that longboard stroller to be the worst idea. Now I'm curious as to how many were bought
Instead of a child put what u buy at the store with it and work your legs out ?
Whatever bro. My and my baby are out there shredding daily.
I just used my normal board behind the stroller, it's way easier than you would think
I had a set of Z-Rollers that I put on a Madrid “LONG BOARD”. I actually really liked them. It was a novelty board, but they worked for me.
No one is too 'cool' for Tail Devils.
I had a air craft... it razored and cut the back of my thigh wide open. Luckily not sacked . . But boy I could olie like 16 plus inches thing was so light ..
When I was a kid, I wanted to get a piece of plexiglass and shape it into a popsicle shape deck so I could see the ground under me while skating but didn't think that clear grip tape was available.
It is now, Braille skateboarding use tempered glass
I had some clear grip tape back in the late 90's early 20's. It was garbage but would have worked for ya. I think jessup made it.
@@MidwestDankAlumni I think I saw that video. The wheels were glass too right? Shattered on the first kickflip.
Clear grip tape has been around since the 70's.
I've got a set of avenues and I agree, as a trick deck truck, they blow hard. But I switched them onto my cruiser for street cruising, and I welcome the extra flex they offer for the crap roads and paths we have here.
as a little kid, i could never ollie correctly anyway, so those Tail Devils were sick as hell 😄
2:50 ... "rendered your board useless, you couldn't do any tricks you couldn't pop at all" literally WHILE showing footage of a guy hitting a handrail and doing a treflip with them on...
First off Grind kings were way ahead of the times, I'd love to have the Grind King and Venture trucks I had in middle school.
Also....Anybody remember Lib Technology slick boards with grooves in the bottom and had fiberglass or something every other layer so it was like impossible to focus your deck....but the pop would be long gone after a few months.
You can get Grind Kings again. They're back.
Lib tech sucks ...revolution rev decks were the best ....they were 100% carbon fiber incased in a hard plastic but not too much carbon fiber so it's still a skateboard....they were awsome just so dam expensive ...too bad they went under ...
Lib tech I remember those they told me they had more pop than any other deck
@@russelljenkins6929 I'm sure they probably did suck...I was just curious if I was the only one who remembered them back in the "good ole days" of getting a new CCS mag that was about as fat as a chapter book and had decks and shoes from companies we couldn't find at a local skate shop on the east coast. But From my knowledge of Lib Tech they were like a snowboard company and then in like the mid 90's made a few decks. Seeing as how I was between the age of like 8-12 at the time I saw one in CCS and it had alternating layers of wood and fiberglass or possibly carbon fiber. (I have seen the new carbon fiber decks you're referring to though, but just like the libtech board I had...it lasted forever...like so long that we couldn't focus it if we tried. So as far as durability it was great, but it lost its pop in a month or two.
@@illmuskyhunter3313 I'll agree that shit did have pop, but after using it for like 8 months as a kid....I was dying to find a fat kid or someone who could break it in half for me so I would have a good excuse for my mom on why I needed a ride to the skate shop to get a new deck ( closest skate shop was 40ish miles from our house, so it was either snag a ride once or twice a year there. Or wait for the next CCS mag to find some stuff on sale haha)
The Avenue Trucks explanation totally caught me off guard😂 Hilarious. Very quick.👍🏻
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Hahah I’m sure your dad was happy he never had to buy you another deck ever again 🤣
tail devils are making a comeback now
I thought for sure you would have mentioned the The Ollie Strap. They had something like that a while back but was basically and innertube tied to the board.
A inertube tied to your skateboard...unhhhhhh you mean JUNK ....lol
I think tail devils are really cool. They aren’t for pros, or kids at parks they are for little kids riding around the neighborhood having fun.
We agree! This vid is just a tease, it’s all in good fun
bro the tail devils took me back to my childhood i was the coolest kid on the block with them
I've got Rims and Tail Devils on my longboard. Now I've got to get trucks that spark.
Sparking Trucks can be had with Grind Kings
Lol
This is easily your funniest upload!!! #2 is out god damn ragous!!! Come on man!!
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Man I loved taildevils so much as a kid! Me and my cousin would pour high% alcohol on his little street and light it up with the taildevils lol those things were so much fun
We LOVED devil tails as kids
Used to spend so much of our extra allowance on them.
But it is true, it does take extra effort to get a pop for tricks and pending how many you had on, the weight did make a noticeable change.
As we got older and they became harder to find, we just realized they were extra as hell
And we were getting higher ollies and kick flips cause the long period of time having those on our decks made us stronger and popping and ollie.
We cant lie though, the effect itself was really cool.
I rode a Banzai aluminum skateboard board back around '75-76, (without any grip tape) and not only did it get your shins, but it would also go for your Achilles (because Road Runner 2s would catch every little pebble and send you tumbling)..
I remember the gk rims…wanted some so bad as a kid
make a complete with all of these products
Does Levi himself count on that list?
JKJK! Love you homie!
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"Tail Devil rendered your board useless. You couldn't pop" while showing a video of a dude tre flipping with a tail devil. That shit was dope back in the day
It’s kinda poetic that many of these skate “innovations” achieved the complete opposite of what they were trying to go for.
I remember Tail Devils first releasing when I was a kid (maybe 6th or 7th grade) and even I thought they were corny at that time. No actual benefit to having them and I don't know one person who ever had them on their board.
That was a fun one. Thanks Levi.
"With Tail Devils you couldn't do ANY tricks" *shows clips of people doing tricks with a Tail Devil*
I like how he says tail devils make your board useless then plays clips of a board slide and a sick sparky tre
Avenue trucks are great for your knees if you're old ( 43 myself) and still wanna do ollies.. Especially when it gets colder.
I had a tail devil when i was like 11 and thought it was the coolest thing in the world.
i had a tail devil on a board and took off the wheels and used to use it as a snowboard down stairs when there was snow, that was the shizzz
You missed that skate product where you screw on a wheel onto your tail of the board so you can easily learn how to manny.
Wheelie Ball was around 1975 but cameras hadn't been invented yet, so little evidence exists. It was a steel ball in a cup that bolted to the tail and "supposedly" allowed "wheelies" though my experience was you just ground to a halt or became a meat crayon.
Lmao this dude is the OSHA of skateboarding 😂😂. Straight up dramatic lol.
I tried pouring gas down my driveway for the tail devil. I had rims too
I did the same thing. It was 🔥Lit🔥
@@rAwTiM3Remasterd did you get yours to light with the tail devil?
@@TrillMurray No. it exploded.
@@rAwTiM3Remasterd actually?? That's awesome. I never got mine to ignite. Maybe I needed more gas. That's sick tho lol nice work
@@TrillMurray the explosion killed my dog. So even thoe It made my legs into chicken nuggets, I still got a dog sandwich.
This video is so funny. Your jargon and methods of communicating your opinions are fucking hilarious. I have literally watched it for an hour straight rewinding and laughing.
I thought for sure you'd have Tracker sixtracks in this list. They were awesome, but had a tendency to break at the hanger way faster than any other truck. I used to skate back in the mid 80's, and the way we avoided, (for the most part), fart rocks was with softer wheels. My friends were rockin' the old Powell 85's and they were soft enough to compress, and allow the rocks to be rolled over. Not all the time, mind you, but way easier than the 97's lol.
right on brotherman! I still have my street cab mini with my original coned wore down 85’s 👊 Good ol rat bones
I used my 97’s for the vert ramps 🤙
Tracker Sixtracks. The mistake you only make once. Hopefully. Complete garbage.
Hilarious video man, really enjoyed it!
Hyped you enjoyed!!!
Tail devils were my shit! looked badass going down the street at night
I don't even skateboard but I was laughing my ass off this whole video😂
Glad you enjoyed!
I'm just really glad that no one followed through on the random idea I had when my high school physics teacher told us to invent something - I loved skating (still love watching edits) and had what I thought was a brilliant idea. I was going to make electromagnets that would sit outside the wheel and act on the metal to literally slow your roll. Wired up a battery pack, sliding rheostat so that it wasn't either on or off - it looked AWESOME. Rather, it LOOKED awesome. 1. It didn't work. Like, AT ALL. 2. If it HAD worked, it would have been bad because of momentum (not the wheels, I was trying this on Kryptos and OJs back in the 80s). When you brake on a bike, you have something keeping you from going forward. On a skateboard ... yeah. It was probably a mercy it didn't work. If it had, the battery pack and wiring and weight would have made it only "useful" for longboards. On the bright side, I learned how to make electromagnets from scratch, learned to do some rudimentary soldering and wiring, and learned a REALLY bad way to stop a skateboard. That all yielded knowledge, and that's progress, right? ;)
An electric motor is an electromagnet making circles. There are electronic skateboards on the market today using your idea.
I ride eboards and the hub motors are pretty much braking like this and I have to say staying on the board while braking not too strong isn't that hard, especially if you have a drop down deck then you can brake actually fairly hard
So all I would have needed to do is invent a new type of board and add a motor? Thank you, sincerely. It's good to know that I was kind of onto something 😁
@@spuckett2489 Yeah haha and you're welcome!
Ha ha, I remember those aluminum decks! 'Hey, let's give the kids giant flying guillotine blades to play with!' The best idea since lawn darts. But those Tail Devils look like big fun.
I had one wasn’t to bad . I was also 6’5 210lb in hs so normal decks wouldn’t last long
I remember when Z rollers came out...me & my buddies thought about them the same way we felt about rollerbladers..back in the day
I loved the tail devil it didn’t last long but I loved in when I was 12. And def broke my arm on an X factor ramp.
Anyone remember those decks that had the thin plastic bottom to slow wear from slides? I think they were made by birdhouse, but I had to superglue so many gashes on my shins because how sharp it got.
The Santa Cruz ones were called ever slicks, I think birdhouse might have just called them slicks if they're what I was thinking they are.
@@ShredzShop I will see if I can find the exact ones and post the name if I do.
I had a Razor Spark skateboard (cheap Razor board with a tail devil) and it was great for Middle school aged me at the time. Good times.)
Was about to comment something about how tail devils were sick as fuck, but seems like half the comments beat me to it. Definitely a fluke to include it on this list...
You ain't lying about that aluminum aircraft deck. Had one road for less than a month before it razor tailed and gouged my shin and gave it away right after. And it was loud as hell also lbvs. Only thing it had going for it was being super light