@@gothamstreetcat4980 eek! If not bleach, acetone then rinse with water can remove some stains but depends on counter material. Okay for porcelain or tile. I'm messy with hair dye and it works with that anyway.
I really liked your advice on bigger people. You were really honest and non-judgmental. It's true : finding clothes when bigger is just harder, there isn't any magic trick.
Especially if you are hour glass shaped!! I find it so hard to find some pants or dresses to fit me properly! Most things are made for women with little or no curves.. And i usually end up with major gappy-osis (big gap in the waist) and people can see my panties when i sit down (long shirts are my staple even tho i have a short torso due to my height)... I usually have to have my grandmum take in my pants or shorten my pants..
Ashala Gaming...Eh, I just roll up my pants or leggings or shove the leggings in my boots...I'm short too, 5ft and personally I like the look...Leggings are actually kinda easy to hack the length off, grab some fabric glue and make a quick hem on the bottom...Though I don't do that, cause eh, they hide in your boots anyway or they look kinda slouchy at the bottom and it's interesting...like when you push down long socks, that kinda look...slouchy look, not baggy...Also, if you are uber short, you can buy 3 quarter length pants and will end up looking like regular length pants sometimes. 👻
@@gabbyweber4074 Most regular clothing is drafted for a "ruler body shape", which is a figure that doesn't have a whole lot of curves. If you are curvier than that you either end up with different sizes for top and bottom if you are a pear figure, or just major gaposis if you are an hourglass.
@@Melsphilosophy If you are smaller than the smallest size of the well known goth fashion brands than that's definitely true. You might have more luck with the brands that have asian sizing. But even then, if you're smaller than that, you're going to have a hard time. Maybe buy the smallest sizes from gothic fashion brands on sale or second hand, and then take them in. Or shop in the children's section and dye everything black. Last resort is learning how to sew I guess. Which is a good thing for everyone regardless of size because a lot of gothic fashion brands produce bottom of the barrel quality items.
Dorian shopping at Fashion Nova was unexpected and delightful. Some of my pretentious local goths would trash affordable "mainstream" brands while stealing their parents' credit cards for Killstar chokers. You get clothes where you can find 'em -- and yours look sick as hell. 💜
justførkicks I just ordered 3 pairs of black high waisted jeans from Fashion Nova during a big sale they had, paid less than $50 including shipping. They all look goth af AND fit my booty. Big win in my book.
I like to look at "mainstream" clothing stores for basic stuff, for example, i bought long tank tops from H&M for like $5, they are soooo soft and comfortable and perfect for a more casual goth look. I also prefer to accesorise, i wear some basic tank top and skinny jeans, then put on my New Rock boots and pentagram belt chain (plus the jewelry i don't even take off) and BAM, goth outfit. And i can wear these accesories with most of my clothes so i don't have to buy more expensive flashy clothes. Also, aliexpress, they have so much great jewelry for so cheap.
My favourite skirt - a floor length black pesant skirt - was found in an thrift store for $2. People who look down their noses for not wearing brand stuff can suck a fat one.
@@sleepinginmoss The name of the store would be really nice, if you don't have to jump through too many hoops to find it. The "alt e-thot" moment some parts of the internet is experiencing is promising to me, because not only is everything cheaper, but it might be a sign of more self-expression in the future. Or, idk, it might just be the usual cycle of fashion baiting me.
My best trick because I'm poor is go to a party shop at Halloween time or just after Halloween time, not for full outfits but for accessories. Last year I got a knee-length, puffy, black tutu that can either be worn as a skirt or as a Petticoat. I also got a pair of black knee length stockings with adorable cartoonish leg bone artwork. You can also get a plethora of cheap chokers that you yourself can DIY to your taste. Also, if you're a fan of faux fangs, your local Halloween store should also be selling the faux fangs where you pour the wired looking pill powder into them and they mould to your teeth for multiple wear. So yeah, as cheesy as it sounds, if you have limited cash don't knock the accessories in a Halloween store.
You forgot the annual opera and theatre costume sales, esp for the plus size Goth. I had a lot of medieval and Restoration/Georgian type of dresses in my wardrobe; and frocks and vests for my then bf too, thanks to the local opera.
Gods I wish we had a proper theatre/opera I could drop by for this sort of thing. Unfortunately, everything like that is down in the bigger cities when it comes to Iowa. Other than that, I'm lucky I work at a thrift store.
As for thrift stores, I think alot depends on area. Around me, they're small and very few and a lot aren't in good condition and no luck. My donations are always like new items that don't fit right or decided it's nothing I really want after all. Rest turn into rags, painting clothes or just pitch them.
I have a hard time justifying expensive goth clothes when I can just make my own/repurpose what I already have. But I think this so good advice. The one item outfit makes sense Though I do want a pair of boots that aren't my docs.
HOLY BATS i've been following both Dorian's and your channel since around 2014, and never would I have thought you two would overlap 🖤 🖤 (been loving the new content and seeing you growing confident in your tastes)
Dorian, as a 41 year old, overweight, has been goth, I really appreciate your advice and candor. I stopped dressing in my beloved gothic fashion when I gained quite a bit of weight. Tired of the cursed yo-yo, I am finally taking my health serious and looking forward to expressing my eclectic self.
@@ThefashiongoddessnycCome on? Im glad your weight did not negatively impact you. Mine did. It is okay to recognize that we are all different and respond to things differently. We can't all be "Diva Cutie"
Oh I've been there, I kept all my fitted waistcoats, Italian leather, pikes, winklepickers, vinyl, patent leather, crushed velvet, silver bangle bunches, despite being a few sizes too large. My thing is chocolate milk, marzipan, super sweet super powerful iced coffee, etc... also in my part of SoCal from junior high on there was no gothic girl, there never was anything at all. Waiting past 34 years faithfully against all odds. I know I'll die without ever finding mine, but I'll perish knowing at least I stayed true to myself. I never settled for less than what I really wanted, I never took advantage of anyone. That's what is most important whether or not you find yours. This truth also unlocks the fact that we need never get emotional or physical with anyone because it's most likely not meant to be anyway. A Celtic Witch I met years ago was dressed so amazing, she inspired me to lose all the weight required to adorn myself to my own liking, never give up, never grow cold😉
Good for u!! Better than giving up and hammering ur scale lol. Yea....that's a thing.....I never wanna make someone feel ugly for their weight, but the truth is you will be healthier if u lost weight (the right way). Tha's a fact and tip toeing around ppl about the truth is not being nice or being a friend to them. You would be lying to them.
So here's the thing. I'm a bigger girl. In my opinion, it's not hard to find things that work. At more plus sized stores there are plenty of nice black clothes that you can alter however you want. DIY that black Torrid dress. You'll look great! Also, places like Killstar ARE starting to expand their size ranges. It's totally possible for us bigger goths to look the part. It just takes a little extra work.
Couldn't say it better myself! I have large hips. Not so much stomach and arms (i have more muscle than fat in my arms...) but i have thighs for days (thicc thighs) its really awkward cause i have to wear plus size anything for my bottoms and a medium or large for my chest (my large bust causes me to not really be able to wear small..) so i know that struggle!!! Give me leggings or give me death is what I always say lmfao
I still find that the plus ranges for goth brands don't actually go very far up in actual plus sizes, it's more like they have increased their sizing to accommodate the larger end of the 'normal' spectrum eg ending at a UK 20 or 22. However I completely agree that you can buy from mainstream brands which do a plus range and modify or accessorize accordingly. In the real world few people will judge you for not wearing brand so long as you look somewhat interesting.
@@creepykylie1017 I definitely think bigger clothing companies still have a long way to go. It's not perfect. But it's nice to see what could be the beginning of better plus sized ranges that are easily accessible. I want to believe! Haha
I'm big and tall. So I don't even bother with expensive goth brand clothes. My wardrobe is mostly plain black dresses, skirts, leggings, shirts and cardigans. Pair that with some cool boots, accessories, and do your nails and makeup, boom, looking good. 😎
In Germany we have like secondhand markets where people just sell what they don't need anymore and there you can find a lot of cool clothes, even queen of darkness etc items!
If you live anywhere near Pennsylvania, there is a Market of the Macabre every year at Laurel Hill Cemetery in Philadelphia. It's supposed to be a macabre and antique market, but it's mostly just hand made "macabre" stuff. Last year there was one girl who was selling antique Victorian clothing, but she also had stuff like Eternal Love dresses. They haven't announced it yet for this year, but it is usually in September and if they do have it again it will be posted on Laurel Hill Cemetery's Facebook page.
So I'm not goth at all, BUT I admire you so much and I like listening to you talk. Is that weird? Probably. Eh. I actually discovered you from your older videos where you were discussing your E.D. past. As someone who struggles in that area, I appreciate your candor about health and body-wellness. I'll definitely be around for all your weight loss videos! It helps me stay focused.. I've been struggling lately, luckily no relapse, but I'm in law school so high-stress = binge and purge urges are STRONG sometimes. Anyways! You're lovely! Much love from the U.S.
The amount of happiness that that sparkly jacket gave you just made my whole day. I KNOW that feeling - when you've found something AMAZING for super cheap, and you are just OVER THE MOON about your unexpected luck (and aren't we clever that we had our little spider eyes peeled! Haha always looking...always looking...) Anyways that little dance was just the best. :-) The "I'm winning at life right now!" boogie!
I'm pretty good at figuring out the construction of items, just from looking at pictures of it. And Im always buying fabric at thrift stores. When I see items from the more expensive shops that I really want, I make it myself. I think everyone should learn to sew, even if it's just to alter items you find at thrift stores. It makes a huge difference.
MacrodermaGigas this! Honestly, I see the complaints about Punk Rave being too expensive... how about wanting a $1300 coat from Ann Demeulemeester or a $700 bag from Alexander Wang? That’s my taste. Because I have, you know, things like RENT to pay and FOOD to afford, I will absolutely sew my own. Which I’m cool with. I’d rather not kill my self to save up for fast fashion. 😕 I
Neurotica I’m not into the type of stuff you mentioned exactly, but more of an in-between of the two price ranges... I keep seeing Sisters of the Black Moon items and Ovate and Noctex stuff that I LOVE and even though most of it is SUPER simple in construction it’s also usually in the hundreds of dollars a piece or close to it. I NEED to better my sewing skills as they are very basic rn.
@@Apparitions98 I got lucky with this, as my mom always sewed and taught me. But I'd recommend getting a really basic sewing machine and some cheap material to practice on. I found Annika Victoria's videos very helpful for the basics. Once you've got the basics down, and a decent set of patterns, start looking into modifying the patterns you have to better fit your preferences.
@@theamvgirlx Dude, I know it's the internet and everyone is mean, but I just wanted to Point out an oblivious wording joke he made. Nothing in my comment says anything about bitchiness. I know he's a decent human being.
Thank you for talking abou the PE "trauma" situation! I just recently found out that I had problems to exercise because it made me think of the bad experiences at school! It takes time to realize that exercise can be quite fun ;)
Goodwill thrift stores in the U.S. Get Demonia and Pleaser overstock around Halloween. Normally only in a few sizes but it's brand new and it's happened literally every October for at least 4 years. I don't know if this is a California only thing, but I know I've seen it in northern and southern CA. The shoes are on average are $30-50.
@@uschilou So true. Also Poshmark is an awesome app and you can lookup "goth" and get people cleaning out their closet and you can actually limit the sizing. Although I think I've yielded the best results when I just looked up "long black lace dress" or something. Edit: Shameless promo- Use invite code Ashtonrainbows for 5 dollars off first purchase XD
@@Darkronikartmusic lol relatable as a Texas goth Around Halloween at my local Goodwill all I can find is like people's homemade Halloween costumes in Goodwill and they aren't even good quality.
Same with Ohio. But finding shoes for small feet is so hard! It's either old lady shoes (not the good kind) or little kid shoes.. But the goodwill here always overprice leather items tho lmfao
Don't forget if you have something too small you can always slice it up, grommet it up the sides, and Lace it up with shoelaces and make it in several panels ... that way you can still wear it and be fat LMAO can totally relate
When it comes to Buy it & Dye it™ I've mentioned this before I know, but you should pay attention to the fabric. I'd hate to see someone buying even a thrift-store item, and hoping it will be gloriously black, and having it turn mucky-pooey-brown or simply staying the same colour it was before. Whatever dye you are using should have info on the box on what fabrics it takes to. I've dyed canvas shoes and the synthetic-y shoelaces stayed completely white despite being in the dye for hours. Some materials simply do not take to dye, including seams sometimes. I tried to dye a denim jacket black and ended up with a navy blue jacket with white seams, it was hideous. (it's bubblegum pink now and the seams don't stand out, those are mostly a problem when you're going very dark)
в безвестность Good for you for being so creative and I’m sure your style is beautiful, but I’ve had enough hate from “normal” people for the way I look/dress over the years, I don’t need it from the goth community too. I’ve been happy to mix high street, handmade (badly) and the bigger gothic brands since I was a teenager and it doesn’t make me less of a goth than anyone else. It’s hard enough being different, we don’t need to pick on each other.
ive found really nice gothic lacy chokers at claires! especially during halloween times, if you go in in november you can get them real cheap on sale :-)
Growing up in the US we have discount department stores like Ross and TJ Maxx, and that was my go to for the longest time. There's always something that's all black and unique and no one ever said a word. I'm lucky enough that I know how to sew so I do dip into the DIY when I'm not feeling lazy.
Sprocket Power...in the U.S. we also have Walmart and believe it or not I've been finding a lot of black interesting clothing cheap. Somebody must be listening.
@@larisabellydance2492 there was 2 pairs of demonia the boots I got were £45 and the shoes were £30 and a pair of new rocks that were £35 all in my size too but I have new rocks and can't wear shoes so i went for the boots.
lauren thompson I wish , I'm in rural Australia . I bought a 2nd hand pair of new rock boots , worked out to nearly $200 aus dollars , with postage from the uk . The markets sound wonderful
I always loved the DIY aspect of goth fashion. It's more unique and shows more personality. Going to the clubs and seeing what others had come up with was inspiring. The self expression of it was the best part.
As a size 16. I agree it's hard to find bigger clothing but not that hard with goth stuff being the "in thing" now. I wouldn't consider losing/gaining weight as I feel happy with my size and enjoy my body- if I were thinner- I'd have ribs showing, if I were bigger- I'd feel self conscious so it's not necessarily about eating healthy... It's about body frame, mental health and in some cases health issues that people need/stay bigger because off. I used to be a size 12 and hated it because I could see my ribs so being a 16 is ideal for me ❤️
I really appreciate the fact that you address the elephant in the room. Most people who talk about fashion, talk about how easy it is to get, but neglect to mention how easy it is for everybody to fit. Knowing your history a little bit (just a little bit) I feel like I wasn't excluded from the conversation and that you were not talking down to those of us who weren't skinny. I didn't think about how expensive the male clothing was. That's very different.
Lol kids these days need name brands. All I had was a thift store and a mom who wouldn't buy me a black pvc raincoat trench coat with lavender polkadot. :( lmao
Hey loving your chanel and you but when It comes to the topic of finding goth plus sized clothing in thrift stores or anywhere for that matter, I have to respectfully disagree with you. In my experience anytime I've gone to a thrift store all I can find is maybe a skirt I can cut up but that's about it which is why I as a plus size goth I dont shop at second hand shops. I dont agree that biggers girls have less clothes because we might be self conscious. It is because they just dont make the stylish clothes we want to wear in my size which is about 18-20 us size. You probably haven't noticed but plus size goth sizes sell out faster that straight sizes and then the website like never restock them...its maddening! Just as an example. Take killstar (or not haha) they constantly come out with new fashion in straight sizes and from the like five new collections they have released they will offer only like two dresses in plus size. They also will add some tee shirts which I dont want some bloody tee I want those bomb ass dresses you just released! Biggers girls just dont have that much to choose from. Most plus size clothing Is boring as shit and i have children and a full time job and I really wish I had time to make frankenclothing like I used to but sadly I dont have the time.anymore. :'( My point is that there are more straight size gothic clothing floating around than plus size in my experience and based on what I've seen over years and years. One thing that drives me banana sandwich is the Asian sizes. I have gone on websites that sell "plus size gothic clothing" they appear to have sizes up to like 5xl but it's a fucking sham! I ordered a pair of fake leather pants and I was so excited to get my 3xl pants and when they came in the mail I could tell they were not going on my body. These looked like us size 10 pants with a 3xl label sewn inside of them it was a joke! . I've always wondered if it really cost companies that much more to offer plus sizes parallel to straight sizes? I would really like to know because from what I've seen is that we will pay for these clothes if they just fucking make them for us....Does that make sense?
I gotta admit I can agree with your opinion of killstar for the most part but they recently put up a pair of boots that I'm just... so in love with. Ugh.
Restyle goes up to 3xl and honestly I have found rip offs of gothic brands' clothing on Aliexpress which went up to 5xl. I don't like to purchase rip offs for a matter of respect but if you don't have my size and the rip off is nice quality and comes in my size, sorry, I'm gonna go for it...
I am not a goth but I love your videos! Also I think that a lot of these tips fit building any wardrobe in general, it's good to buy some great and maybe a bit more expensive pieces and build your outfit around that with cheaper and thrifted things 😌😌
Fat goth here! Whilst it is harder to find the more fancy, brand name stuff in larger sizes, it’s perfectly possible to find nice *goth* style clothing for the bigger person that doesn’t cost a bomb. I’m not really into lace and ruffles etc, so I wear a lot of plain black jersey dresses (hanky hem and swing style) and pair them with nice leggings and an over size cardigan. Accessories are the things that tend to make my outfits so shoes, coats, jewellery and bags. Which is probably where most of the money I spend on my look goes. I trawl eBay for those, my demonias were eBay bargains, same with my DM’s. Most of my jewellery is alchemy gothic or from places like shop dixi who regularly have sales and discounts. My bag is killstar (I know, I know) which I received as a Christmas present as were as my beloved goth pikes. I was a lucky girl that year. I buy my clothes from boohoo, ASOS curve, yours clothing, new look inspire, H&M, the occasional treasure has even been found in Evans who tend towards the more frumpy, floral end of plus size fashion and of course eBay, ebay is a treasure trove. I recently got a pair of PVC glossy leggings from boohoo for £13, a Wednesday Addams style swing dress from eBay for £18 (they did have them cheaper that that but the listing was the only one with a plus size model and I wanted to be sure) and I’ve bought a lot of cool stuff from ASOS, seriously, once Halloween rolls round check out ASOS, they get some great stuff in, as does boohoo.
I do the same, though I am into the lacy frilly stuff. I occasionally find it difficult to get maxi dresses and skirts without slits up the sides, but so far those sites, Yours, and eBay are where I get most of my clothes from.
As a plus size alternative person it is hard and can get depressing but I also know even tho I'm slowly loosing weight it does take time and it isn't always easy for some people for many reasons.... But yeah killstar does do a plus size section 🙈 even tho killstar is so expensive 😒 but I also search many other places all the time and change it to how I want it.. I think if people want to be different and not be a sheep no matter the size I think people should do it and sort it out clothes wise.. Because size shouldn't denture you from being who you want to be tbh 😭😢
What I recommend is looking for pre-owned clothing on ebay. Often people will sell nice things for very little just because they want to get it off of their hands. It's similar to thrifting in the sense that the selection is random, but the likelihood of finding something that you like is a lot higher because of the wider range of options and ability to narrow down your results with filters and search terms. It takes some patience and persistence, but I've had the most success with shopping this way.
I've been watching your videos for a long time but commented only once or twice (sorry, I am a lazy ass person). I must say you are very genuine honest person in my opinion and listening to you feels like listening to elder brother/sister. I know it seems wierd :) I see you are very positive and motivated the last time. Could you please make a video about that? How do you manage to stay positive and happy? I know you've been struggling with depresion. What helped You? Wish you all the best. Sending kisses :* :* :*
You are absolutely adorable in the outfit clips. You speak so eloquently. I found your channel a few months ago and you are by far my favorite you tubers. I have searched enough on channel to see if you have more outfit clips but holy heck outfit videos from you would be FABULOUS. Especially with you saying you still have pieces from the 90s
I love your advice....buy and dye is absolutely brilliant! I enjoy all aspects of shopping for my goth wardrobe. Whether it comes from eBay or a thrift shop or a high end online shop.....does not matter as long as the pieces make you happy and it fits your personal style asthetic. You're lovely! Never stop!
Hi Dorian! My daughter just passed by, saw you and said “I wish I could tell her how much I love her hair” haha thank you for this video, I never thought about eBay, it opens so many doors!
Thrift stores are no joke. I get all of my transparent ruffle chiffon tops second hand. People ask me where my stuff is from all the time and I love the reaction I get from "Goodwill/I made this"
I often stalk my local h&ms sale rack to try and find good staples to incorporate into my gothic outfits, saved me a fortune! Great video as always! ❤❤
My favorite pair of shoes look something like a "studed Ash wedge shoe". They are super grippy, they are heels/booties, they are easy to put on, they don't look clunky and they are just amazingly comfy. Even as they start to wear out,(have had them for almost 10 years) it adds a personal flare to them and I love them!💜🖤🤍
My advice: Don’t be embarrassed to go into all the regular everyday stores. Walmart, Kmart, Claire’s, Hell, make stuff for yourself if you can. Just make sure to buy everything you can in black, and mixing and matching them to create an outfit. I’ve taken a plain black long sleeved shirt that I’ve had for years, paired with grey jeans and ballet flats. It’s my makeup and my accessories that help make the outfit.
Free-size items are really helpful when i have weight changes like open cardigans, shawls, sheer or mesh hoodies/sweaters, and loose fitting distressed sweaters. Also by looking up specific materials or textures you want in your clothes helps with online shopping (or by touch while speed browsing in a thrift store) like lace, fringe, suede, satin, leather, velvet, or other more durable synthetic materials that won’t get ruined easily over time.
I think you hit the nail on the head, it’s all about versatile basic pieces with a few staple brand pieces and accessories! Always sending love to you🖤
I saved a lot of my goth clothes, and now I have an almost teen daughter who I gave free reign over all those old items. I still wear a good percentage of them but she’s interested in the style. I could see the sparkles in her eyes as she looked over my teenager collection and picked so many items and wears them all of the time! ❤️
I find that shoes and makeup really makes an outfit. Like i can wear plain black tees and ripped gray jeans with like a proper chunky black platformed heels and maybe some jewelry and i'm good.
I don't know why it never occurred to me that I could dye clothing black .... wow that is such a game changer why did I not think of it beforehand. I feel kind of dumb honestly lol.
@@DystopianOverture They're so easy to upstyle and i enjoy the comfort , leggings are the answer to most of my goth super scrimping shopping escapades.
Hey, just letting you know that Killstar does have a plus size line. I haven't bought any of their stuff though. I found this out from another TH-camr I just discovered called Margot Meanie who does the most DIVINE plus size look books and hauls for "Alternative" and darkly inclined chickas. She pairs the higher end alt clothing with cheaper brands and she has awesome style.
Killstars plus size category is *tiny* compared to how many designs they have, not to mention the brand itself tends to run a little small. at this point brands have no excuse for not carrying there normal lines in bigger sizes and having plus size "ranges" isn't helping at all. Plus size should just be standard ; /
@@zevethmoon6445 I totally agree with you. I think they really shoot themselves in the foot with the lack of options. Why not just offer the full line in a proper range of sizes? As someone who owns literally none of their clothes I'm probably not really one to complain though. I am a size 18 but dressing up plain black dresses and jeans and band shirts is my usual style nowadays.
Thank you so much for these tips!! Since losing 200 lbs and being able to actually pick out clothes that I *want* to wear, I'm realizing I don't know how to accessorize on a budget.
I Need More Sleep some footwear then was built to last! Especially if it's a brand that went big after you bought them. I own a pair of black leather Timberlands above the ankle heels in 2005 and they are still fabulous. Now I hear most of that brand won't last a few months...
I have a black velvet top I bought a m&s when I was 16,im 50 this year and wear this top every week, I even wore it for a first date recently because it looks so nice, I plan to be buried in it when I die 😂xxxxxx
@@annvirco7308 lmfao im sorry that was a bit funny, they don't make shirts like they used to nowadays! They usually last maybe a month or a year depending lol What song will be played at the funeral?
Back then shoe companies didn't try and cut costs by making the quality worse. Docs used to last for decades but modern Docs break after a few years. When you hear old age punks say they have had their Docs for 30 years, they ain't joking.
I have stuff left from the 80s and 90s. They held up fine. Couldn't fit in the leather pants so that and tons went in donation bags when I moved a couple of years ago and rediscovered some old clothes good as new. Like a kid at Christmas. Lol I won't donate junk. I keep for painting or anything messy. Old stuff was made better like when Levi's were made in the US. I found new old stock on ebay but not my size. Darn. Their old basic jeans fit better than today's.
My style varies quite a bit but there's always something gothic about it, even if it's not something you'd 'typically' think of as goth. Shoes on ebay is a really good shout. I've gotten about four pairs of gothic looking Carvela heels on ebay for less than £5 each when they would have cost £70+ new. And that was in one night that I found all of those. Then just by luck I found another pair for £7 in a charity shop. Don't be afraid to look outside the typical gothic brands for things that make a statement, sometimes your statement piece can be a bargain too.
Just discovered your account today and wanted to say thank you so much for your content!!! Very inspirational and educational for someone like me who wants to shop goth on a budget.
I’ve been watching you for a minute but didn’t subscribe because I didn’t think about but I love you! The goth lifestyle is mindset over clothes, over material. I watch "hauls" because it’s enjoyable. Not because I’m gonna buy it immediately. I have been goth since I was 8 years old because I love the style, the look, love looking at goth attire on others, compliment others being goth because it is a hard lifestyle! I’ve worn platforms since volatile shoes in the 90s and I like them. You don’t have to wear them cause their "goth". You are the perfect example of "it doesn’t matter just find something good and work it out!" I love just finding random weird clothes anywhere! I’m in a military town and I found Tripp pants for 12 dollars at a thrift store! If I can find it online and I like it I would love to buy it but it’s about making your own look! I have the mind set of goth, not the everyday make my face up, I can’t afford contacts because I’m legally blind so it’s hard to buy contacts! I’ve been DIYing my own vests, jackets, and what not since 2010.... because it’s my own. Plato’s closet in the US has cheap vests and jackets that you can create your own! Studs and Spikes sells both for whole sale price, I got many many sizes and shapes for like 5 dollars a bag! So you can stud anything all over for cheap. 💕💕 I know about rants too girl I feel ya 💕💕 love you goth babes
Goth is about music, not clothes or aesthetic. If you listen to goth music, you're a goth. If you like goth-inspired fashion and lifestyle, you're darkly inspired.
I love your hair! I had this cut and color a few years ago, I miss it. Also, make a video of just you trying on outfits. you look absolutely adorable strutting around in your clothes :D maybe show us your 90's outfits?
Im so glad someone did this after the goth clothes. I used to just thrift, or even in normal clothing stores there are cute things especially around halloween. There are def ways to look nice in goth ness, mostly just find stuff that works for you
I'm subscribing. You're the first realistic person I have come across. I'm not "totally" goth, more eclectic as I call it...wear what u like. And your ideas about adding chains and things to make an outfit interesting is what I do. I love chains. I love jeans vests and I find chains and stuff at craft stores. Just like thrift stores if you check out sales at craft stores, you'll find items like the mesh ribbon and things like interesting drops and I make some of my own jewelry. I found what looked like a sterling silver big chain in a craft sale bin and draped it on my vest with little silver dangly shit.I love it. And clothes., as long as they're black or black with lace, etc I'm happy. You are right. It doesn't have to be expensive and I dont give a fuck about labels. Creating your look the way you want it is freedom. I won't be tied to a brand just to impress anyone. You are also realistic about sizes. I want a leather corset but I've managed to somehow pack on 20 unwanted pounds. That's coming off before I think about the corset ;) So thanks for the info and I look forward to your videos about healthy eating too.
I made my husband a set of military cords for his shoulder out of a brooch with some premade necklaces and some I made out of skull beads. He can pin this to a plain black jacket and it suddenly is Goth. Also, for heavier woman, there are some pretty nice evening gowns at thrift stores that could be dyed black that of a larger size. Many mothers of the bride are not so small but they buy flattering styles for that day and then get rid of it.
Other tips that I personally do! 1. Shop ONLY in the sale/clearance section. Sometimes you find brand names for a more decent price. Don’t even look at the normal priced items because you will be disappointed. 2. Keep an eye out in shops that are not goth like Forever 21, H&M and Rainbow! I bought the most beautiful velvet platforms at Forever 21 for about $20 all because I just happened to look! I buy most of my clothes from Rainbow and just recently bought these two cool and ripped looking leggings for about $5 each.
Flea markets are also great. I once got giant platform heels for £4 after bargaining. You can negotiate the price there and the stuff there is usually very cheap, especially shoes
What I do, I wait for holiday sales, buy boots and shoes at Deichmann and then make chains, charms, studs, paint them. Clothes bleach, paint, disstress them, sewing, fish nets. IF you find jewelry you like but want it ”more”, buy a few and chain them together. IF you can buy from wish or other cheaper websites.
It honestly took me five years to build my wardrobe up to how I wanted it, and there were always new things I wanted. Years and years and hours of scouring through opshops and DIY and clothing swaps. Clothing swaps are fabulous! It means that you can rid yourself of clothing you no longer want or need or wear, and you can gain a whole bunch of new things!
As a guy, I've been doing 'spider mode' for years on Etsy and Ebay. I've bought the vast majority of my accessories relatively cheaply on Ebay and Etsy. As far as high end, new brand name stuff goes, I bought a pair of Demonia boots and an elaborate Punk Rave coat and a Punk Rave vest. I wear all three quite often but mix and match them with a wide variety of cheaper quality stuff. At a formal work do recently, I wore the boots and the vest with a $7 thrifted 80s shirt, a pair of $30 dept store black pants. Along with my antique silver pocket watch, chain and fob - a set that it took me a few years to assemble in 'spider mode' on Ebay. Great video Dorian.
As a trans guy who has been goth both before and after my social transition: YES, finding goth guy clothing is such a pain in the ass compared to finding girl clothes, especially when you're an unusual size/shape. I also use the statement piece method, specifically I lean towards jackets and other outerwear. Leather biker jackets, trench coats, tailcoats, punk denim vests, anything like that. Everything else is just black jeans and t-shirts. I got a pair of steel-toed black combat boots for $13 on Ebay and I wear them everywhere, confident in the knowledge that I'll probably fall apart before they do. I've got a set of bracelets and rings that are all the same and I wear them every single day, because they're all black and silver so they go with everything I own. Being a goth really is about cutting corners, pinching pennies, patience, and creativity. The only "brand item" I own at the moment is a Tripp jacket, which was a $10 Ebay find. As much as I love brands like Punk Rave and Killstar for somewhat normalizing the spooky look, they've made young goths everywhere think that being goth is about being rich, which couldn't be further from the truth.
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“Buy it and Dye it,” has always been my favourite quote from you. It’s certainly a motto to live by.
J Moore Yeah, I bought a sweater that was made from acrylic and that shit barely does at all. The only think I dyed was my kitchen counter.
@@gothamstreetcat4980 i dye poly is a great product for that
@@gothamstreetcat4980 eek! If not bleach, acetone then rinse with water can remove some stains but depends on counter material. Okay for porcelain or tile. I'm messy with hair dye and it works with that anyway.
Scythe Scythe I believe I did end up using them.
J Moore I can’t remember what I did to clean it. It did leave a stain but I moved out not to long after that so... haha, someone else’s problem. :D
I really liked your advice on bigger people. You were really honest and non-judgmental. It's true : finding clothes when bigger is just harder, there isn't any magic trick.
Especially if you are hour glass shaped!! I find it so hard to find some pants or dresses to fit me properly! Most things are made for women with little or no curves.. And i usually end up with major gappy-osis (big gap in the waist) and people can see my panties when i sit down (long shirts are my staple even tho i have a short torso due to my height)... I usually have to have my grandmum take in my pants or shorten my pants..
for skinny people its also pretty hard... but ok
Ashala Gaming...Eh, I just roll up my pants or leggings or shove the leggings in my boots...I'm short too, 5ft and personally I like the look...Leggings are actually kinda easy to hack the length off, grab some fabric glue and make a quick hem on the bottom...Though I don't do that, cause eh, they hide in your boots anyway or they look kinda slouchy at the bottom and it's interesting...like when you push down long socks, that kinda look...slouchy look, not baggy...Also, if you are uber short, you can buy 3 quarter length pants and will end up looking like regular length pants sometimes. 👻
@@gabbyweber4074 Most regular clothing is drafted for a "ruler body shape", which is a figure that doesn't have a whole lot of curves. If you are curvier than that you either end up with different sizes for top and bottom if you are a pear figure, or just major gaposis if you are an hourglass.
@@Melsphilosophy If you are smaller than the smallest size of the well known goth fashion brands than that's definitely true. You might have more luck with the brands that have asian sizing. But even then, if you're smaller than that, you're going to have a hard time.
Maybe buy the smallest sizes from gothic fashion brands on sale or second hand, and then take them in. Or shop in the children's section and dye everything black.
Last resort is learning how to sew I guess. Which is a good thing for everyone regardless of size because a lot of gothic fashion brands produce bottom of the barrel quality items.
Most goths aren't rich so shopping smart is a must and with a little research its always possible to find good deals and save money :-)
True
Goth clothing is also very expensive even when it's cheap
I only now realized that the bookshelves behind you aren't real.
hahahaha you must be new here! he has that room fuck up ahahahaha ♥
I saw the background bending and I was thinking
"Why the hell is a bookcase bending the fabric of reality?" Lol oop
Dorian shopping at Fashion Nova was unexpected and delightful. Some of my pretentious local goths would trash affordable "mainstream" brands while stealing their parents' credit cards for Killstar chokers.
You get clothes where you can find 'em -- and yours look sick as hell. 💜
True i have an amazing lace choker i bought cheap. At some cheap retail store about 3 years and i still have it
justførkicks I just ordered 3 pairs of black high waisted jeans from Fashion Nova during a big sale they had, paid less than $50 including shipping. They all look goth af AND fit my booty. Big win in my book.
I like to look at "mainstream" clothing stores for basic stuff, for example, i bought long tank tops from H&M for like $5, they are soooo soft and comfortable and perfect for a more casual goth look. I also prefer to accesorise, i wear some basic tank top and skinny jeans, then put on my New Rock boots and pentagram belt chain (plus the jewelry i don't even take off) and BAM, goth outfit. And i can wear these accesories with most of my clothes so i don't have to buy more expensive flashy clothes.
Also, aliexpress, they have so much great jewelry for so cheap.
My favourite skirt - a floor length black pesant skirt - was found in an thrift store for $2. People who look down their noses for not wearing brand stuff can suck a fat one.
@@sleepinginmoss The name of the store would be really nice, if you don't have to jump through too many hoops to find it.
The "alt e-thot" moment some parts of the internet is experiencing is promising to me, because not only is everything cheaper, but it might be a sign of more self-expression in the future. Or, idk, it might just be the usual cycle of fashion baiting me.
“Be a spider, cast the net, catch the boots” I laughed so hard.
My best trick because I'm poor is go to a party shop at Halloween time or just after Halloween time, not for full outfits but for accessories. Last year I got a knee-length, puffy, black tutu that can either be worn as a skirt or as a Petticoat. I also got a pair of black knee length stockings with adorable cartoonish leg bone artwork. You can also get a plethora of cheap chokers that you yourself can DIY to your taste. Also, if you're a fan of faux fangs, your local Halloween store should also be selling the faux fangs where you pour the wired looking pill powder into them and they mould to your teeth for multiple wear. So yeah, as cheesy as it sounds, if you have limited cash don't knock the accessories in a Halloween store.
I bought striped tights, same brand as a halloween store once at a dollerstore. I was floored
Now I feel better for doing the same ahh
Thanks for making me not feel like an insane cheap bitch for doing that. 💖
Party city's vampire section is pretty good
YES! & around Halloween they have fishnets in all colors for super reasonable prices. Best time to shop lol
"Buy it and dye it" that's probably the best information I've ever heard and just never thought about.
omg same ive been living in the dark for so long how did i not think of that :O
You forgot the annual opera and theatre costume sales, esp for the plus size Goth. I had a lot of medieval and Restoration/Georgian type of dresses in my wardrobe; and frocks and vests for my then bf too, thanks to the local opera.
Im going to check that out thanks
Gods I wish we had a proper theatre/opera I could drop by for this sort of thing. Unfortunately, everything like that is down in the bigger cities when it comes to Iowa. Other than that, I'm lucky I work at a thrift store.
Hollllyyy shhiit,I've been dying to check one out!
Ooooo! I need to look into that!
As for thrift stores, I think alot depends on area. Around me, they're small and very few and a lot aren't in good condition and no luck. My donations are always like new items that don't fit right or decided it's nothing I really want after all. Rest turn into rags, painting clothes or just pitch them.
I have a hard time justifying expensive goth clothes when I can just make my own/repurpose what I already have.
But I think this so good advice. The one item outfit makes sense
Though I do want a pair of boots that aren't my docs.
Buy it and dye it. So true lol
HOLY BATS
i've been following both Dorian's and your channel since around 2014, and never would I have thought you two would overlap 🖤 🖤
(been loving the new content and seeing you growing confident in your tastes)
Holy shit I never thought I’d see Kat Blaque here
Making your own outfits is always more impressive anyways! :-)
Omg I knew you wore black, but I didn't know you were goth.
Dorian, as a 41 year old, overweight, has been goth, I really appreciate your advice and candor. I stopped dressing in my beloved gothic fashion when I gained quite a bit of weight. Tired of the cursed yo-yo, I am finally taking my health serious and looking forward to expressing my eclectic self.
GENUinEVE D I’m 40 overweight and still dress in goth...come on...
@@ThefashiongoddessnycCome on? Im glad your weight did not negatively impact you. Mine did. It is okay to recognize that we are all different and respond to things differently. We can't all be "Diva Cutie"
Oh I've been there, I kept all my fitted waistcoats, Italian leather, pikes, winklepickers, vinyl, patent leather, crushed velvet, silver bangle bunches, despite being a few sizes too large. My thing is chocolate milk, marzipan, super sweet super powerful iced coffee, etc... also in my part of SoCal from junior high on there was no gothic girl, there never was anything at all. Waiting past 34 years faithfully against all odds. I know I'll die without ever finding mine, but I'll perish knowing at least I stayed true to myself. I never settled for less than what I really wanted, I never took advantage of anyone. That's what is most important whether or not you find yours. This truth also unlocks the fact that we need never get emotional or physical with anyone because it's most likely not meant to be anyway. A Celtic Witch I met years ago was dressed so amazing, she inspired me to lose all the weight required to adorn myself to my own liking, never give up, never grow cold😉
Good for u!! Better than giving up and hammering ur scale lol. Yea....that's a thing.....I never wanna make someone feel ugly for their weight, but the truth is you will be healthier if u lost weight (the right way). Tha's a fact and tip toeing around ppl about the truth is not being nice or being a friend to them. You would be lying to them.
So here's the thing. I'm a bigger girl. In my opinion, it's not hard to find things that work. At more plus sized stores there are plenty of nice black clothes that you can alter however you want. DIY that black Torrid dress. You'll look great! Also, places like Killstar ARE starting to expand their size ranges. It's totally possible for us bigger goths to look the part. It just takes a little extra work.
Couldn't say it better myself! I have large hips. Not so much stomach and arms (i have more muscle than fat in my arms...) but i have thighs for days (thicc thighs) its really awkward cause i have to wear plus size anything for my bottoms and a medium or large for my chest (my large bust causes me to not really be able to wear small..) so i know that struggle!!! Give me leggings or give me death is what I always say lmfao
I still find that the plus ranges for goth brands don't actually go very far up in actual plus sizes, it's more like they have increased their sizing to accommodate the larger end of the 'normal' spectrum eg ending at a UK 20 or 22. However I completely agree that you can buy from mainstream brands which do a plus range and modify or accessorize accordingly. In the real world few people will judge you for not wearing brand so long as you look somewhat interesting.
@@creepykylie1017 I definitely think bigger clothing companies still have a long way to go. It's not perfect. But it's nice to see what could be the beginning of better plus sized ranges that are easily accessible. I want to believe! Haha
@@gabbyweber4074 I feel this so hard. Leggings are the real MVP!
I'm big and tall. So I don't even bother with expensive goth brand clothes. My wardrobe is mostly plain black dresses, skirts, leggings, shirts and cardigans. Pair that with some cool boots, accessories, and do your nails and makeup, boom, looking good. 😎
In Germany we have like secondhand markets where people just sell what they don't need anymore and there you can find a lot of cool clothes, even queen of darkness etc items!
I think in German and Italian it's basically called the same but translated ahah
we have them in the UK and theyre car boot sales! we also have markets,, but thats more small businesses
Secondhand-Laden übersetzt eigentlich zu "thrift store"
If you live anywhere near Pennsylvania, there is a Market of the Macabre every year at Laurel Hill Cemetery in Philadelphia. It's supposed to be a macabre and antique market, but it's mostly just hand made "macabre" stuff. Last year there was one girl who was selling antique Victorian clothing, but she also had stuff like Eternal Love dresses. They haven't announced it yet for this year, but it is usually in September and if they do have it again it will be posted on Laurel Hill Cemetery's Facebook page.
like carboot sales?
So I'm not goth at all, BUT I admire you so much and I like listening to you talk. Is that weird? Probably. Eh. I actually discovered you from your older videos where you were discussing your E.D. past. As someone who struggles in that area, I appreciate your candor about health and body-wellness. I'll definitely be around for all your weight loss videos! It helps me stay focused.. I've been struggling lately, luckily no relapse, but I'm in law school so high-stress = binge and purge urges are STRONG sometimes.
Anyways! You're lovely! Much love from the U.S.
Alot of people do that. On my tarot channel tarot people have told me they may not be that specific sign but like my style. :)
The amount of happiness that that sparkly jacket gave you just made my whole day. I KNOW that feeling - when you've found something AMAZING for super cheap, and you are just OVER THE MOON about your unexpected luck (and aren't we clever that we had our little spider eyes peeled! Haha always looking...always looking...)
Anyways that little dance was just the best. :-) The "I'm winning at life right now!" boogie!
I'm pretty good at figuring out the construction of items, just from looking at pictures of it. And Im always buying fabric at thrift stores. When I see items from the more expensive shops that I really want, I make it myself. I think everyone should learn to sew, even if it's just to alter items you find at thrift stores. It makes a huge difference.
MacrodermaGigas this! Honestly, I see the complaints about Punk Rave being too expensive... how about wanting a $1300 coat from Ann Demeulemeester or a $700 bag from Alexander Wang? That’s my taste. Because I have, you know, things like RENT to pay and FOOD to afford, I will absolutely sew my own. Which I’m cool with. I’d rather not kill my self to save up for fast fashion. 😕 I
Neurotica I’m not into the type of stuff you mentioned exactly, but more of an in-between of the two price ranges... I keep seeing Sisters of the Black Moon items and Ovate and Noctex stuff that I LOVE and even though most of it is SUPER simple in construction it’s also usually in the hundreds of dollars a piece or close to it. I NEED to better my sewing skills as they are very basic rn.
where or how would u suggest going about learning how to sew?
@@Apparitions98 I got lucky with this, as my mom always sewed and taught me. But I'd recommend getting a really basic sewing machine and some cheap material to practice on. I found Annika Victoria's videos very helpful for the basics. Once you've got the basics down, and a decent set of patterns, start looking into modifying the patterns you have to better fit your preferences.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one!!
"let's talk about the elephant in the room"
proceeds to talk about plussize people
*Absolute madlad*
You know I didn't even realize that it happened like that at the time. Well spotted.
I don’t think she was being deliberately bitchy. Don’t be an ass
@@theamvgirlx We didn't say she Was being bitchy. Just noting a coincidence that occurred.
@@theamvgirlx Dude, I know it's the internet and everyone is mean, but I just wanted to Point out an oblivious wording joke he made. Nothing in my comment says anything about bitchiness. I know he's a decent human being.
Why would Dorian be "bitchy" anyway for being cheeky
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Thank you for talking abou the PE "trauma" situation! I just recently found out that I had problems to exercise because it made me think of the bad experiences at school! It takes time to realize that exercise can be quite fun ;)
Goodwill thrift stores in the U.S. Get Demonia and Pleaser overstock around Halloween. Normally only in a few sizes but it's brand new and it's happened literally every October for at least 4 years. I don't know if this is a California only thing, but I know I've seen it in northern and southern CA. The shoes are on average are $30-50.
Halloween is my FAVORITE time to thrift. Soooo much amazing goodness.
@@uschilou So true. Also Poshmark is an awesome app and you can lookup "goth" and get people cleaning out their closet and you can actually limit the sizing. Although I think I've yielded the best results when I just looked up "long black lace dress" or something. Edit: Shameless promo- Use invite code Ashtonrainbows for 5 dollars off first purchase XD
For the most part Goodwill sucks in Texas. I need to move lol.
@@Darkronikartmusic lol relatable as a Texas goth
Around Halloween at my local Goodwill all I can find is like people's homemade Halloween costumes in Goodwill and they aren't even good quality.
Same with Ohio. But finding shoes for small feet is so hard! It's either old lady shoes (not the good kind) or little kid shoes.. But the goodwill here always overprice leather items tho lmfao
you can imo easily dress goth with stores like h&m bershka, asos, aliexpress etc you just have to know what to search for 🖤
I absolutely love the Gothic aesthetic, everyone looks good in it!
Mix and match, As a bloke , I find lots of army surplus stuff you can dye and customise , Soviet cold war greatcoats etc
Yes please do more videos on your weight loss! Your last video sparked a light in me and I just want to KNOW MORE!!
Don't forget if you have something too small you can always slice it up, grommet it up the sides, and Lace it up with shoelaces and make it in several panels ... that way you can still wear it and be fat LMAO can totally relate
underrated advice!
When it comes to Buy it & Dye it™ I've mentioned this before I know, but you should pay attention to the fabric. I'd hate to see someone buying even a thrift-store item, and hoping it will be gloriously black, and having it turn mucky-pooey-brown or simply staying the same colour it was before. Whatever dye you are using should have info on the box on what fabrics it takes to. I've dyed canvas shoes and the synthetic-y shoelaces stayed completely white despite being in the dye for hours. Some materials simply do not take to dye, including seams sometimes. I tried to dye a denim jacket black and ended up with a navy blue jacket with white seams, it was hideous. (it's bubblegum pink now and the seams don't stand out, those are mostly a problem when you're going very dark)
Killstar is fast fashion though. It meets all the criteria, if what people on reddit say is to be believed.
Yeah, they really are. And expensive too.
If they are not transparent about their manufacturing process, they are a fast fashion brand.
в безвестность Good for you for being so creative and I’m sure your style is beautiful, but I’ve had enough hate from “normal” people for the way I look/dress over the years, I don’t need it from the goth community too. I’ve been happy to mix high street, handmade (badly) and the bigger gothic brands since I was a teenager and it doesn’t make me less of a goth than anyone else. It’s hard enough being different, we don’t need to pick on each other.
ive found really nice gothic lacy chokers at claires! especially during halloween times, if you go in in november you can get them real cheap on sale :-)
Growing up in the US we have discount department stores like Ross and TJ Maxx, and that was my go to for the longest time. There's always something that's all black and unique and no one ever said a word.
I'm lucky enough that I know how to sew so I do dip into the DIY when I'm not feeling lazy.
Sprocket Power...in the U.S. we also have Walmart and believe it or not I've been finding a lot of black interesting clothing cheap. Somebody must be listening.
I found a pair of demonias for £45 in my local antique shop, there's a goth that works there and he gets some amazing things.
lauren thompson jealous !
@@larisabellydance2492 there was 2 pairs of demonia the boots I got were £45 and the shoes were £30 and a pair of new rocks that were £35 all in my size too but I have new rocks and can't wear shoes so i went for the boots.
@@larisabellydance2492 the shops in Barnsley South Yorkshire if you live anywhere near.
lauren thompson I wish , I'm in rural Australia . I bought a 2nd hand pair of new rock boots , worked out to nearly $200 aus dollars , with postage from the uk . The markets sound wonderful
I always loved the DIY aspect of goth fashion. It's more unique and shows more personality. Going to the clubs and seeing what others had come up with was inspiring. The self expression of it was the best part.
As a size 16. I agree it's hard to find bigger clothing but not that hard with goth stuff being the "in thing" now. I wouldn't consider losing/gaining weight as I feel happy with my size and enjoy my body- if I were thinner- I'd have ribs showing, if I were bigger- I'd feel self conscious so it's not necessarily about eating healthy... It's about body frame, mental health and in some cases health issues that people need/stay bigger because off. I used to be a size 12 and hated it because I could see my ribs so being a 16 is ideal for me ❤️
I really appreciate the fact that you address the elephant in the room.
Most people who talk about fashion, talk about how easy it is to get, but neglect to mention how easy it is for everybody to fit.
Knowing your history a little bit (just a little bit) I feel like I wasn't excluded from the conversation and that you were not talking down to those of us who weren't skinny.
I didn't think about how expensive the male clothing was. That's very different.
Your stepdad shouting at the printer took this from quality content to *chef kiss*
I love how adorably excited you get about clothing 🖤
8:43 "Not a weird orgasm" my god I'm dying!! 😂😂😂 can always rely on your videos making me uncontrollably laugh
Ebay and Depop are good choices to "thrift" gothic brands
I've found a lot of stuff from demonia, killstar and dollskill
Dont support dollskill
If it's secondhand it's ok
Lol kids these days need name brands. All I had was a thift store and a mom who wouldn't buy me a black pvc raincoat trench coat with lavender polkadot. :( lmao
@@papercuts500 i maybe get the last two but anyone would want cheap goth shoes
I’m trying to purchase all my clothes secondhand this year, and I gotta first pair of demonia’s on EBay- LITERALLY good as new!!!
Hey loving your chanel and you but when It comes to the topic of finding goth plus sized clothing in thrift stores or anywhere for that matter, I have to respectfully disagree with you.
In my experience anytime I've gone to a thrift store all I can find is maybe a skirt I can cut up but that's about it which is why I as a plus size goth I dont shop at second hand shops. I dont agree that biggers girls have less clothes because we might be self conscious. It is because they just dont make the stylish clothes we want to wear in my size which is about 18-20 us size. You probably haven't noticed but plus size goth sizes sell out faster that straight sizes and then the website like never restock them...its maddening! Just as an example. Take killstar (or not haha) they constantly come out with new fashion in straight sizes and from the like five new collections they have released they will offer only like two dresses in plus size. They also will add some tee shirts which I dont want some bloody tee I want those bomb ass dresses you just released! Biggers girls just dont have that much to choose from. Most plus size clothing Is boring as shit and i have children and a full time job and I really wish I had time to make frankenclothing like I used to but sadly I dont have the time.anymore. :'(
My point is that there are more straight size gothic clothing floating around than plus size in my experience and based on what I've seen over years and years.
One thing that drives me banana sandwich is the Asian sizes. I have gone on websites that sell "plus size gothic clothing" they appear to have sizes up to like 5xl but it's a fucking sham! I ordered a pair of fake leather pants and I was so excited to get my 3xl pants and when they came in the mail I could tell they were not going on my body. These looked like us size 10 pants with a 3xl label sewn inside of them it was a joke! . I've always wondered if it really cost companies that much more to offer plus sizes parallel to straight sizes? I would really like to know because from what I've seen is that we will pay for these clothes if they just fucking make them for us....Does that make sense?
I gotta admit I can agree with your opinion of killstar for the most part but they recently put up a pair of boots that I'm just... so in love with. Ugh.
I know that feeling lol. Luckily they put the ones I wanted on sale so they weren't as insanely expensive.
Whenever I get killstar stuff I only buy from the clearance section 😂😂 other then that thrift store all the way
I seriously lucked out with eBay and found a pair of knee high underground winklepickers from the late 80s/early 90s!
Restyle goes up to 3xl and honestly I have found rip offs of gothic brands' clothing on Aliexpress which went up to 5xl. I don't like to purchase rip offs for a matter of respect but if you don't have my size and the rip off is nice quality and comes in my size, sorry, I'm gonna go for it...
I absolutely love katesclothing!!! Whenever i have some extra money unusually get a goodie or two
I am not a goth but I love your videos! Also I think that a lot of these tips fit building any wardrobe in general, it's good to buy some great and maybe a bit more expensive pieces and build your outfit around that with cheaper and thrifted things 😌😌
Fat goth here! Whilst it is harder to find the more fancy, brand name stuff in larger sizes, it’s perfectly possible to find nice *goth* style clothing for the bigger person that doesn’t cost a bomb. I’m not really into lace and ruffles etc, so I wear a lot of plain black jersey dresses (hanky hem and swing style) and pair them with nice leggings and an over size cardigan. Accessories are the things that tend to make my outfits so shoes, coats, jewellery and bags. Which is probably where most of the money I spend on my look goes. I trawl eBay for those, my demonias were eBay bargains, same with my DM’s. Most of my jewellery is alchemy gothic or from places like shop dixi who regularly have sales and discounts. My bag is killstar (I know, I know) which I received as a Christmas present as were as my beloved goth pikes. I was a lucky girl that year.
I buy my clothes from boohoo, ASOS curve, yours clothing, new look inspire, H&M, the occasional treasure has even been found in Evans who tend towards the more frumpy, floral end of plus size fashion and of course eBay, ebay is a treasure trove. I recently got a pair of PVC glossy leggings from boohoo for £13, a Wednesday Addams style swing dress from eBay for £18 (they did have them cheaper that that but the listing was the only one with a plus size model and I wanted to be sure) and I’ve bought a lot of cool stuff from ASOS, seriously, once Halloween rolls round check out ASOS, they get some great stuff in, as does boohoo.
I do the same, though I am into the lacy frilly stuff. I occasionally find it difficult to get maxi dresses and skirts without slits up the sides, but so far those sites, Yours, and eBay are where I get most of my clothes from.
As a plus size alternative person it is hard and can get depressing but I also know even tho I'm slowly loosing weight it does take time and it isn't always easy for some people for many reasons.... But yeah killstar does do a plus size section 🙈 even tho killstar is so expensive 😒 but I also search many other places all the time and change it to how I want it.. I think if people want to be different and not be a sheep no matter the size I think people should do it and sort it out clothes wise.. Because size shouldn't denture you from being who you want to be tbh 😭😢
What I recommend is looking for pre-owned clothing on ebay. Often people will sell nice things for very little just because they want to get it off of their hands. It's similar to thrifting in the sense that the selection is random, but the likelihood of finding something that you like is a lot higher because of the wider range of options and ability to narrow down your results with filters and search terms. It takes some patience and persistence, but I've had the most success with shopping this way.
I'm obsessed with depop atm I love how its basically an online charity shop
Me too, I have been able to get so much cool alternative items off of there. Truly amazing.
I've been watching your videos for a long time but commented only once or twice (sorry, I am a lazy ass person). I must say you are very genuine honest person in my opinion and listening to you feels like listening to elder brother/sister. I know it seems wierd :)
I see you are very positive and motivated the last time. Could you please make a video about that? How do you manage to stay positive and happy? I know you've been struggling with depresion. What helped You?
Wish you all the best. Sending kisses :*
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Love this. Great idea for a video!
I'd also like to know...Good idea
You are absolutely adorable in the outfit clips. You speak so eloquently. I found your channel a few months ago and you are by far my favorite you tubers. I have searched enough on channel to see if you have more outfit clips but holy heck outfit videos from you would be FABULOUS. Especially with you saying you still have pieces from the 90s
I love your advice....buy and dye is absolutely brilliant! I enjoy all aspects of shopping for my goth wardrobe. Whether it comes from eBay or a thrift shop or a high end online shop.....does not matter as long as the pieces make you happy and it fits your personal style asthetic. You're lovely! Never stop!
TH-camrs excitedly showing off stuff they got on sale is the single cutest thing
I love how you dance and prance about when you model outfits lol. You are SUCH an entertaining and generally wonderful human being
I had a dream you died your hair neon green for spring! Just thought id share that!
Hi Dorian! My daughter just passed by, saw you and said “I wish I could tell her how much I love her hair” haha thank you for this video, I never thought about eBay, it opens so many doors!
"You can't wear it every day"
Me: 👀... I will 🤣
Seriously that dress is so beautiful I'd wear it everyday.
Thrift stores are no joke. I get all of my transparent ruffle chiffon tops second hand. People ask me where my stuff is from all the time and I love the reaction I get from "Goodwill/I made this"
I often stalk my local h&ms sale rack to try and find good staples to incorporate into my gothic outfits, saved me a fortune! Great video as always! ❤❤
My favorite pair of shoes look something like a "studed Ash wedge shoe". They are super grippy, they are heels/booties, they are easy to put on, they don't look clunky and they are just amazingly comfy.
Even as they start to wear out,(have had them for almost 10 years) it adds a personal flare to them and I love them!💜🖤🤍
My advice: Don’t be embarrassed to go into all the regular everyday stores. Walmart, Kmart, Claire’s, Hell, make stuff for yourself if you can. Just make sure to buy everything you can in black, and mixing and matching them to create an outfit.
I’ve taken a plain black long sleeved shirt that I’ve had for years, paired with grey jeans and ballet flats. It’s my makeup and my accessories that help make the outfit.
Free-size items are really helpful when i have weight changes like open cardigans, shawls, sheer or mesh hoodies/sweaters, and loose fitting distressed sweaters.
Also by looking up specific materials or textures you want in your clothes helps with online shopping (or by touch while speed browsing in a thrift store) like lace, fringe, suede, satin, leather, velvet, or other more durable synthetic materials that won’t get ruined easily over time.
I think you hit the nail on the head, it’s all about versatile basic pieces with a few staple brand pieces and accessories! Always sending love to you🖤
I was literally halfway through your last video and I was SO EXCITED
I saved a lot of my goth clothes, and now I have an almost teen daughter who I gave free reign over all those old items. I still wear a good percentage of them but she’s interested in the style. I could see the sparkles in her eyes as she looked over my teenager collection and picked so many items and wears them all of the time! ❤️
I find that shoes and makeup really makes an outfit. Like i can wear plain black tees and ripped gray jeans with like a proper chunky black platformed heels and maybe some jewelry and i'm good.
1:52 "Spread the net, catch the boots" someone needs to continue and write a Headhunter cover :D
I can't get front 242 out of my head now dang it. As soon as she said it I was like FORRRRRK I am going to be on a headhunter remix bender for days.
I don't know why it never occurred to me that I could dye clothing black .... wow that is such a game changer why did I not think of it beforehand. I feel kind of dumb honestly lol.
I spend the most money on nice tops/jackets , the rest is just black primark leggings ..£2.50!!!
My girlfriend loves those she swears by Primark jeans and leggings
I found a pair of jeans for 3 bucks and burgundy. I mix black and burgundy alot. Don't have to be solid black all the time for goth.
I live in gym leggings, band shirts and leather jackets.
@@DystopianOverture They're so easy to upstyle and i enjoy the comfort , leggings are the answer to most of my goth super scrimping shopping escapades.
@@leahallie1503 Yup! Combat boots and leggings always look great!
I love that you backed yourself up by providing the alternative options.
This is really helpful!
Thank you 🖤
Thrifting with intensity is how I do everything I like goth and vintage so like yessss
I dont have my old clothes I moved too much in the 90s. I am finally getting my clothes. Together .
Hey, just letting you know that Killstar does have a plus size line. I haven't bought any of their stuff though. I found this out from another TH-camr I just discovered called Margot Meanie who does the most DIVINE plus size look books and hauls for "Alternative" and darkly inclined chickas. She pairs the higher end alt clothing with cheaper brands and she has awesome style.
Killstars plus size category is *tiny* compared to how many designs they have, not to mention the brand itself tends to run a little small. at this point brands have no excuse for not carrying there normal lines in bigger sizes and having plus size "ranges" isn't helping at all. Plus size should just be standard ; /
@@zevethmoon6445 I totally agree with you. I think they really shoot themselves in the foot with the lack of options. Why not just offer the full line in a proper range of sizes? As someone who owns literally none of their clothes I'm probably not really one to complain though. I am a size 18 but dressing up plain black dresses and jeans and band shirts is my usual style nowadays.
Thank you so much for these tips!! Since losing 200 lbs and being able to actually pick out clothes that I *want* to wear, I'm realizing I don't know how to accessorize on a budget.
Oh my god I’ve been waiting for a vid like this from you!
Before the millennium? How the hell did you make them last that long?
I Need More Sleep some footwear then was built to last! Especially if it's a brand that went big after you bought them.
I own a pair of black leather Timberlands above the ankle heels in 2005 and they are still fabulous. Now I hear most of that brand won't last a few months...
I have a black velvet top I bought a m&s when I was 16,im 50 this year and wear this top every week, I even wore it for a first date recently because it looks so nice, I plan to be buried in it when I die 😂xxxxxx
@@annvirco7308 lmfao im sorry that was a bit funny, they don't make shirts like they used to nowadays! They usually last maybe a month or a year depending lol
What song will be played at the funeral?
Back then shoe companies didn't try and cut costs by making the quality worse. Docs used to last for decades but modern Docs break after a few years. When you hear old age punks say they have had their Docs for 30 years, they ain't joking.
I have stuff left from the 80s and 90s. They held up fine. Couldn't fit in the leather pants so that and tons went in donation bags when I moved a couple of years ago and rediscovered some old clothes good as new. Like a kid at Christmas. Lol I won't donate junk. I keep for painting or anything messy. Old stuff was made better like when Levi's were made in the US. I found new old stock on ebay but not my size. Darn. Their old basic jeans fit better than today's.
Your voice is so satisfying, I can't get enough of it!
My style varies quite a bit but there's always something gothic about it, even if it's not something you'd 'typically' think of as goth. Shoes on ebay is a really good shout. I've gotten about four pairs of gothic looking Carvela heels on ebay for less than £5 each when they would have cost £70+ new. And that was in one night that I found all of those. Then just by luck I found another pair for £7 in a charity shop. Don't be afraid to look outside the typical gothic brands for things that make a statement, sometimes your statement piece can be a bargain too.
Claire's during their sales (especially after Halloween) are brilliant for accessories :)
Just discovered your account today and wanted to say thank you so much for your content!!! Very inspirational and educational for someone like me who wants to shop goth on a budget.
That jacket is BAD ASS! And you look freaking beautiful in it!
I’ve been watching you for a minute but didn’t subscribe because I didn’t think about but I love you!
The goth lifestyle is mindset over clothes, over material. I watch "hauls" because it’s enjoyable. Not because I’m gonna buy it immediately. I have been goth since I was 8 years old because I love the style, the look, love looking at goth attire on others, compliment others being goth because it is a hard lifestyle! I’ve worn platforms since volatile shoes in the 90s and I like them. You don’t have to wear them cause their "goth". You are the perfect example of "it doesn’t matter just find something good and work it out!" I love just finding random weird clothes anywhere! I’m in a military town and I found Tripp pants for 12 dollars at a thrift store! If I can find it online and I like it I would love to buy it but it’s about making your own look! I have the mind set of goth, not the everyday make my face up, I can’t afford contacts because I’m legally blind so it’s hard to buy contacts! I’ve been DIYing my own vests, jackets, and what not since 2010.... because it’s my own. Plato’s closet in the US has cheap vests and jackets that you can create your own! Studs and Spikes sells both for whole sale price, I got many many sizes and shapes for like 5 dollars a bag! So you can stud anything all over for cheap. 💕💕 I know about rants too girl I feel ya 💕💕 love you goth babes
Goth is about music, not clothes or aesthetic. If you listen to goth music, you're a goth. If you like goth-inspired fashion and lifestyle, you're darkly inspired.
I love your hair! I had this cut and color a few years ago, I miss it. Also, make a video of just you trying on outfits. you look absolutely adorable strutting around in your clothes :D maybe show us your 90's outfits?
Im so glad someone did this after the goth clothes. I used to just thrift, or even in normal clothing stores there are cute things especially around halloween. There are def ways to look nice in goth ness, mostly just find stuff that works for you
My favorite pants are black cordurou, they are pretty easy to find even from cheap fast fashion and look amazing with a cool gothic shirt
The point of thift hauls is to show that something cool can be found and hopefully how to style the finds.
I'm subscribing. You're the first realistic person I have come across. I'm not "totally" goth, more eclectic as I call it...wear what u like. And your ideas about adding chains and things to make an outfit interesting is what I do. I love chains. I love jeans vests and I find chains and stuff at craft stores. Just like thrift stores if you check out sales at craft stores, you'll find items like the mesh ribbon and things like interesting drops and I make some of my own jewelry. I found what looked like a sterling silver big chain in a craft sale bin and draped it on my vest with little silver dangly shit.I love it. And clothes., as long as they're black or black with lace, etc I'm happy. You are right. It doesn't have to be expensive and I dont give a fuck about labels. Creating your look the way you want it is freedom. I won't be tied to a brand just to impress anyone. You are also realistic about sizes. I want a leather corset but I've managed to somehow pack on 20 unwanted pounds. That's coming off before I think about the corset ;) So thanks for the info and I look forward to your videos about healthy eating too.
I made my husband a set of military cords for his shoulder out of a brooch with some premade necklaces and some I made out of skull beads. He can pin this to a plain black jacket and it suddenly is Goth. Also, for heavier woman, there are some pretty nice evening gowns at thrift stores that could be dyed black that of a larger size. Many mothers of the bride are not so small but they buy flattering styles for that day and then get rid of it.
For my plus sized goths! I know Shein isn’t thattt “goth” but you can find some stuff there and there is plus sized and curvey stuff on Shein!
Thank you sooo much for this video! I'm pretty new to the goth scene so this is a life saver 🖤🖤🖤
Other tips that I personally do!
1. Shop ONLY in the sale/clearance section. Sometimes you find brand names for a more decent price. Don’t even look at the normal priced items because you will be disappointed.
2. Keep an eye out in shops that are not goth like Forever 21, H&M and Rainbow! I bought the most beautiful velvet platforms at Forever 21 for about $20 all because I just happened to look! I buy most of my clothes from Rainbow and just recently bought these two cool and ripped looking leggings for about $5 each.
Flea markets are also great. I once got giant platform heels for £4 after bargaining. You can negotiate the price there and the stuff there is usually very cheap, especially shoes
Thank you so much for being so real and so full of resources .
What I do, I wait for holiday sales, buy boots and shoes at Deichmann and then make chains, charms, studs, paint them. Clothes bleach, paint, disstress them, sewing, fish nets. IF you find jewelry you like but want it ”more”, buy a few and chain them together. IF you can buy from wish or other cheaper websites.
It honestly took me five years to build my wardrobe up to how I wanted it, and there were always new things I wanted. Years and years and hours of scouring through opshops and DIY and clothing swaps. Clothing swaps are fabulous! It means that you can rid yourself of clothing you no longer want or need or wear, and you can gain a whole bunch of new things!
As a guy, I've been doing 'spider mode' for years on Etsy and Ebay. I've bought the vast majority of my accessories relatively cheaply on Ebay and Etsy. As far as high end, new brand name stuff goes, I bought a pair of Demonia boots and an elaborate Punk Rave coat and a Punk Rave vest. I wear all three quite often but mix and match them with a wide variety of cheaper quality stuff. At a formal work do recently, I wore the boots and the vest with a $7 thrifted 80s shirt, a pair of $30 dept store black pants. Along with my antique silver pocket watch, chain and fob - a set that it took me a few years to assemble in 'spider mode' on Ebay. Great video Dorian.
You are a lifesaver! I am literally so happy to know that I can get clothes I like for cheap. ^_^ Officially my favorite gothic youtuber
As a trans guy who has been goth both before and after my social transition: YES, finding goth guy clothing is such a pain in the ass compared to finding girl clothes, especially when you're an unusual size/shape. I also use the statement piece method, specifically I lean towards jackets and other outerwear. Leather biker jackets, trench coats, tailcoats, punk denim vests, anything like that. Everything else is just black jeans and t-shirts. I got a pair of steel-toed black combat boots for $13 on Ebay and I wear them everywhere, confident in the knowledge that I'll probably fall apart before they do. I've got a set of bracelets and rings that are all the same and I wear them every single day, because they're all black and silver so they go with everything I own. Being a goth really is about cutting corners, pinching pennies, patience, and creativity. The only "brand item" I own at the moment is a Tripp jacket, which was a $10 Ebay find. As much as I love brands like Punk Rave and Killstar for somewhat normalizing the spooky look, they've made young goths everywhere think that being goth is about being rich, which couldn't be further from the truth.
What a great video!!!! ( BTW, love the fact that you mentioned skullgirdle) 😊
Would love to hear more rave stories
I love the Front 242 reference with the boots 💜
I love how the sleeves on your top are tied on with grommets. Gives me an idea on how to save a coat I really liked. Thank you.