I been meaning to flip that clamp but I think you are spot on I should band saw that off and leave it where it is. I like heavy duty so I tend to build that way
Thanks Mike I have a new .22 mag coming in tomorrow and now I know how it works, saving the video for future reference. Very professional, you are an awesome instructor. I can tell you're very experienced in air guns. Thank you.
Well I got the Gamo Magnum GR Spring .22 and started breaking it in. Inspected it really close and started the post-manufacture cleaning and improved lubing. Exterior cleaning and treatment with Hoppes etc. I'm really liking it. It shoots most of the way through a 2 by 4. It detonated once and blasted completely through the 2 x 3 and into my bedding. Very very nice gun. Everything I expected and more and even better then my earlier Gamo break barrel. I decided that this would be one of my 'platform' rifles and so I got a second on on the way. Videos coming up.
Excellent video, clear, exhaustive explanations and slow enough to follow each step! Thank you for that. I had a newby question. I Europe the power output of these guns is restricted to 24 Joules. I read somewhere that it takes a screwdriver and 5 minutes' work to get rid of this restriction but I would not have a clue. Any pointers in the right direction, maybe?
Hi. The gas ram would have to be replaced if you want to have more power Ive been told they are not fillable, then you would have to see what it takes to get it to be installed properly, or what is needed far as a adapter. I have never pulled the gas ram on that gun. but usually there is some type of adjustment because all gas rams are different in length & size
@@MrSteppingstone888 I found out that it is only a matter of increasing the size of the hole which allows the air to flow through the barrel. A very simple trick, easy enough to carry out - which I'm going to try! :)
@@mennobosman5024 The air chamber port hole between the forks on the receiver tube, it should have a slight chamfer seen when magnified/ well If they made the port hole smaller in size while keeping the full powered gas ram that would be interesting you would think they would just make the lesser powered gas ram/ let me know what your power changed to if you have a crony or what ever you can go by. this is interesting.
@@MrSteppingstone888 I don't have a chrony but I'll let you know. Full power should make a noticeable difference. I got a document from the seller with photos explaining the 'how to'; he confirmed the story to be correct. To be continued.
Thanks Mike! Great video. I've been looking at your tools and supplies and I see a lot of things I have but I also see some things I'm gonna need tapered punch for sure. I am a big fan of building custom tools like you did with the spring compressor and the brass tool. It's a great way to go and often the only way to get something done right. This video really helped me understand my Gamo better and get ready for the GR spring magnum arriving in a day or two.
You have a tall bottle of blue stuff on your bench 35 years ago someone gave me a package with 4 bottles in it one was wood stock treatment one degreaser one gun blue and one fine gun oil I think the one you have there is the gun blue anyway never seen that anywhere else thanks for showing this video I just took a Gamo wildcat apart and didn't notice the blocks at the front now I am gonna have to go look and see if they moved.
Hi The blocks are contoured to the shape of the receiver tube gamo has some Hoaky build designs that G magnum stock is so thin its like a thin plastic shell, some how it works and still feels good when you hold it.
Hi Mike the GAMO ACCU WHISPER .177 1250 FPS with platinum pellets is just a little different I use a spring compressor on the AW, I use a 5/8 socket compress the spring then push the pin out, you do a great video thanks
I really wish you could compare the gamo magnum side by side with the hatsan 125 or 135, just to see which of the two has the bigger receiver or compressor tube, because this is what will ultimately drive more air volume and transfer more energy to the pellet. Hatsan claims about 30mm diameter for the 135, 29mm for the 125, while gamo 33mm. Knowing the length would be interesting. Appreciate to hear your comment.
My GSM GEN1 was giving me velocity issues. Took it apart because I suspected the piston seal went bad because the cocking effort was the same. Turns out I was right. Ordered another factory stock seal and it was good as new again. Btw when changing out the piston seal my suggestion is to replace it with the same factory stock piston seal. Anything softer in terms of the material the seal is made out of and you will not get the velocity the rifle is suppose to achieve. Also swapped out the spring system in my GAMO SWARM FOX .22 with the IGT gas ram and she shoots sooooo sweet!!
@@MrSteppingstone888 I bought both the magnum and regular IGT pistons from John Knibbs international airgun store in the U.K. The magnum part # is 48450.
Great video. Never actually assembled one, out of sheer fear of not knowing what to find. This really helps. Do you know if a Gamo Delta Cadet has the same mechanism?
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Thanks Mike, am now in the process of building a spring compressor. @20:30 you mentioned cutting the C-clamp back some to access the retaining pin. Couldn't you just have punched out the pin from the opposite side? Would the pin release? I am building it now, and am thinking of putting the clamp on the other side for this reason .
Hi Kurt I would flip the Clamp to the other side if I re do mine over , because its a pain leaning over trying to see clearly and coming in straight on it. especially at my bench height/and also I would raise the compressor one more additional 2x 4 or whatever 2x you use for better clearance when turning the clamp handle I am always shoving things out of the way to make sure my hand is clear when turning the handle/ dont know if I mentioned it but I use foam pipe insul to drop the receiver into before it goes between the wood rails then you learn how far to cover the receiver, so the insul doesn't mess up your alignment .I think maybe just using a cut towel to wrap the tube would be better fit up and the two rails could be closer but at least everything is protected especially if you work on someone's else gun
@@MrSteppingstone888 Thanks Mike, so much for getting back. I was thinking routing some V- shape blocks, with a gap in the middle to strap it down too, so it self centers and will accommodate any size chamber. And using leather instead of foam, from projects I've had laying around.
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Mike, for those of us with minimal tools, have you ever thought about making the special slotted piece for decompressing the Gamo Magnums and selling them? Depending on price, I would be interested. I have a Gamo Extreme Hunter and Gamo GR Magnum. Excellent video by the way.
Hi. If you mean a tool to clamp to the scope rail to remove and install the internals they already make them. I don't like the ideal when working on some ones gun clamping on to the scope rail. I rather know that its protected from wear or scratches this is very simple you could buy a saw like a Ryobi and drill or harbor freight has the large C clamp and tools etc..
Great video! I have a Gamo replay 10 IGT 22 mag., and I figure at some point barrel seal will be worn out from usage. Could you do a video on how to replace a barrel seal?
Harbour freight has inexspensive PICK tool set with orange handels you just need to sand the tips thinner and pointer the seal sit in there you pull it usung a pick tool & if the new one sticks out to far you carefully sand the bottom of the seal usally the breech seal last a Long long time
Yes That would be BAD if it gets in front of the piston seal it can cause denotation. detonation can ruin the barrel & air chamber port hole. NO gear lube no oil has to be non petroleum like below there is two area's the air chamber which is in front of the piston seal then there is the rest of the tube from cocking slot on back . synthetic can be used it gets burnished into the steel tube/ typically a molly paste is used in air chamber then swiped on piston seal sides when installing the piston ,or you can use super tek synthetic lube its non petroleum from wallmart its red, you can burnish both into the tube along with the air chamber use a wood dowel with rolled up paper towel taped tight at middle & end on the dowel so it wont move but once piston is down inside the air chamber the tube area behind the piston should get another non petroleum lube such as Lucas red its in a small bottle from O riley auto , it is usually on the counter/ use a wood dowel with paper towel rolled up & taped tight you want the tube walls lightly wet but not dripping, that way the piston has lubrication when it slides back /when doing the air chamber I mark the dowel so I know where the line of lube was put on the paper towel, goin & out but one direction around usually so the paper towel folds tighter not un raveled direction for a spring if you have one just lightly coat it so its not bare with super tek red lube, do not glob it up /here is a link. price went up on this www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Tech-Multi-Duty-Complex-Hi-Temp-Grease-14-oz-Tub/16795246
@@ariskarageorgiou9517 If you decide to use molly you can use this from air rifle head quarters/I am not up on other so called molly lubes / usually in a air chamber area they will cross hacth the tube so the steel has XXX light scratch pattern but that steel is not honed smooth & has micro scratches in it already I would just burnish the air chamber after you cleaned out the old oils and lube super tech brake cleaner spray from wallmart removes& cuts grease better than anything I know but you need a exhausts fan or do it outside again with wood dowel & rolled up paper towel www.airrifleheadquarters.com/page/page/251327.htm
@@ariskarageorgiou9517 I just bought this Red line CV-2 off Ebay 20.00 compared to 29.00 from wall marts super tech , it may even be better here's a Ebay link. www.ebay.com/itm/302034667728?epid=1311852766&hash=item4652ab48d0:g:sH4AAOSw9~xe09NO
@@MrSteppingstone888 do.you know anything about drilling the tube hole? Because I drilled my gamo magnum 1250 4.5mm and I opened from 4mm to 4.5mm and I do not know if it gains more fps or lose fps
Merci bien , ça m'a aidé à voir si ma pièce était bien mise en place , car au rechargement elle a déjà frottée le verrin !! Et des rayures sont apparus 😱😱 !! Donc j'ai démonté et remonté avec de la graisse sur les parties metalliques qui frottent ... Et tout ça pour gagner 16 joules (je suis passé de 21 joules à 37 joules) en perçant le 'port de transfert' avec un foret de 3mm , a faire avec le prot de transfert vers le bas et un peu de graisse sur le forêt !!🤘🤠🤘
Hey Mike love your videos especially the hatsan stuff. I have a 125 sniper spring version. Was wondering if there was anyplace in the US that sells a quality piston seal and breech seal for this rifle. Thanks
Hi Mike All the after market piston seals wont hold up, what happens is the rifle will level off as the seal wears in bringing the fps below what it is capabable of getting hatsan breech seals are fine, if you were to get a piston seal hatsan has new red seals or custom air seals in australia ( they take 30 days for delivery) seals on ebay from russia I never tried them. I make custom o ring piston caps for my guns , worked wonders for the hatsan 95 but bigger magnums I will need to come up with a different set up
Hi MIke - really appreciate your video. I have a Gamo Rapto Whisper (gas ram) that when the trigger is pulled, nothing happens. Safety is off, there is (was tension) in cocking it but nothing happens when the trigger is pulled. Would this be a trigger issue or possibly something else?
The barrel cocking was full normal tension? did you mess with trigger adjustment, if so try & undo what you may of over adjusted. If you send that gun somewhere make sure you pushed the pellet out of the breech get some help to break barrel open & shove a thin rod up bore to knock the pellet out be careful ! my contact info is in the "about me" tab if you go to my channel
@@MrSteppingstone888 Thanks for the super quick response Mike. Yes, barrel was cocking full normal tension and did not mess with trigger or any adjustments. Nothing loaded right now - barrel is empty. Just don't understand what may have "broken" since it seems to be cocking (under tension) but pulling trigger does nothing.
@@JohnnyD975 Is it under warranty / well its cocked & ready to fire yet with safety off the trigger works but she wont fire /sounds like the gas ram blew loosing its pressure after the piston engaged with the trigger sear. anything is possible/ are you able to work on your own gun if it is the gas ram you may be able to get another on line or from Gamo
@@MrSteppingstone888 Thank you Sir! Agree, sounds like gas ram blew (warranty expired). Will try to find and order replacement gas ram. Thanks again - really appreciate your insight.
i am trying to find out if a gamo magnum barrel will fit on a silent whisper gamo rifle i do not like that sillencer on the front of the whisper i was toldthat the main body of most all gamo rifles are the same with the o ring seal for the barrel on the chamber not the barrel
Hi Mike, the part called out at minute 1:09:10 which snaps on the lever to protect the barrel from scratching has broken on my Swarm Magnum .22. It must have slipped off and has gotten jammed back by where the cable hooks up from the trigger. It's all torn up and the gun won't cock because of it. Do you know the part # or where I could find one? Thanks, Brian
im having a lot of troubles with this rifle, i cant make it shoot accurately... i only get 1.8 or 2 inches groups... at 10 yards.... in the past i had a benjamin prowler.... with it icould easily hit the target at 60 meters using poor quality pellets... and with this gamo im using good pellets. in your experience, what do you think could be the problems? bad crowning? bad muzzle brake? i would really appreciate it if you could give me some advice.
with all break barrels the typical would be to go thru the list. check the hand break make sure it is not clipping the pellet or something out of alignment inside it , check breech block pivot bolt is correct tightness and barrel doesn't drop down after its cocked and still not shut. then the bore see if its not filthy from crosman pellets which often can foul a barrel out fast due to the junk in them at times. check breech seal is not leaking/ using the closed up on a thin piece of tissue then fire the pellet thru it to see if any tissue blows out. check the stock bolts, and finally check you scope set up often the scope shifts on these magnums / see what you get when using the open sights compared to your scope set up know how far out from reticle center you dialed the turrets to get on bulls eye if its to much it could cause the reticle to shift its best if the scope is zeroed and you bend the barrel to get the point of impact close to the bulls eye/ every gun is different also you can clean the bore then use a thin smoothed ended rod to push the pellet down thru slowly and you feel what the pellet to bore contact is to determine if the bore is good or pellet has to much free fall do it on a45 degree downward but no more you don't want the weight if the rod to push the pellet but just go slowly while your feeling every nuisance as you go thru and be sure the pellet falls out the hand break when done / Gamos have good barrels but you never know . if pellet is snug and hard to push then it becomes super easy etc you need to know what your bore is telling you. but start the pellet in the bore tuck it just past the breech don't use the skinny rod to get it started use something else then he skinny rod so you don't fight in the beginning once inside then you can pay attention to its travel and what it is telling you. FYI if you check the bore for pellet to bore fit the barrel needs to be cleaned first or you can definitely get a bad reading, I use goo gone & patches etc / If you later do bend the bore don't put pressure on the barrel block its plastic you would need to set up and use a press carefully on barrel only and lastly a little bend goes a long way go easy and you wont have to re bend it back if you went to far
Yes if you watched some hatsan videos I did with a spring its the same mod 87 is like the 125 has the same safety assembly not like the hatsan 95 if you need anything let me know
Hey Mike, great video!!! I just found your channel yesterday and already just watched four videos and subscribed. Anyway, I watched this video because I was hoping to get some insight into increasing the power of my Gamos. I was wondering if there is anything you can do to increase the fpe of a springpiston air rifle. I think based on this video it should be simple enough. You made another video four years ago mentioning that you wanted the Hunter Extreme and you waited for a while before you found one. Is it possible to just buy a heavier spring and just swap them out? I think I heard that the Hunter Extreme has a cocking effort of 60 pounds. Is it possible to buy a 60 pound spring and just swap them out? I would love to have a hunter extreme in .22 where would I buy a 60 pound spring at a auto parts shop or an airgun parts shop? Also, do you know approximately how many fpe would result from a 60 pound spring shooting a 14.3 grain pellet? Approximately, what grain weight would be ideal to be used in a .22 Hunter Extreme to maintain flight stability and be enough to humanely harvest a wild hog around 50 to 60 pounds? Anyway thanks again for a great video!!! Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
Hi Ken. The gamo is pretty darn powerful as it is. if your wanting to hunt hogs I would get a pcp air rifle and look your way into that side of things , compressor wise a lot of guys buy the Youg heng tons of how to use them videos on youtube I grabbed pcp air tanks fro ali express at 1/3rd the cost then in usa with gauges & hose set up and the pump can be found at the best prices under 300.00 in usa OK BACK TO SPRINGER You cant just grab a spring and wala ,/ you will burn up the piston seal if you convert a gas ram rifle from a gas ram to a spring "usually you will gain 50 fps because the spring releases its energy faster . Vorteck products inc springs are designed for air guns so they will not break under the working conditions, you would have to see what he has available that you may be able to try. but honestly if your into hunting for game save yourself the effort and just go into pcp and maybe up the caliber to .25 rite now the big ammo is hard to come buy due to the covid crap. also you know in air gun with gas or spring power verses pcp the pcp are deadly accurate bulls eyes& stacking pellets at 50yds is typical where the other can not due to recoil and harmonics sure you can get a powerful pellet rifle to get the job done but If you want more then whats available then your looking at pcp the air venturi avenger came out with a wood stock version I think for 450.00 shipped from pryamyd air had outstanding reviews last time I looked it over
2nd reply/ IF your dead set on non pcp I can set up a hatsan I have my own custom parts made for them that will create better fps getting its proper fps & making the gun a lot smoother . I offer rear piston bearing rings and I know exactly what to look for that most don't. only thing I need is the owner to be sure he has a good bore by cleaning the bore & doing a pellet to bore test by slowly sliding the pellet thru to see if it has bore to pellet contact or if it has no bore to pellet contact the slightest drag is fine but free fall is not/ heck I can even re barrel but if you buy a hatsan check the bore and find that its bad then shoot it and see its not accurate you can send it back . accuracy
@@MrSteppingstone888 Hey Mike, Thanks for the prompt reply!!! Regarding the .22 Hunter Extreme project, actually I just thought it would be a cool project and great to have a springer with a 60 pound spring that would be adequate in foot pounds of energy to take down feral hogs. I also wanted to save money by just buying the spring and swapping the new heavier one for the old lighter one. I already have a few spring piston Gamos in .22 and I thought that just switching the spring would be adequate and cheaper. According to one video I saw, the Gamo Jungle is a springer that tops out at 30 foot pounds of energy with a 40 pound cocking effort. The accuracy was only tested to 40 or so yards but it could probably do 50 easily. So I figured if I swapped the springs I might end up with about 45 foot pounds of energy and possibly increase the range by another 15 to 25 yards for a total maximum range of about 65 foot pounds of energy and a range of about 65 yards. By the way, do you hunt with slugs? I haven't thus far but assume that with the better flight stability the increase in fpe and gain of range would be much better than a pcp. I havent seen a combo pcp and hand pump for less than $350. But to date I haven't spent more than $200 on any of my Gamo springers. I figure a heavier spring wont cost $150. The only down side is that there aren't any scopes that I know of that can take the abuse of the double recoil so you would have to stick with iron sights. At 52 yoa, my vision is not what it used to be. Anyway, thanks again. Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
Hi Mike, can you give me your advice on the Hatsan model 135 Vortex QE .22 VS. Gamo Swarm Magnum 10X GEN2 .22. Your advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Hi Carlos get the gamo swarm the hatsans I go over & redo the internals with my custom parts but the gamo is good to go usually its powerful lightweight feels good fun & accurate have a decent trigger & although the stock is light & flimsey you dont notoce it unless its off / check out some youtube videos on them
@@carlosc3383 Your welcome I work the hatsan magnums guns that people already bought , I rebuild the gas rams & have custom parts for them turning them into a very nice powerful rifle but with shipping it cost
Seems like it would be fairly easy to fit that ram in other model gamo rifles. In Ireland where I live the roadster model gen two is 370 euro and the magnum is over 500. That ram is about 40 euros online. I think I'll be doing a little experiment 😂
I believe the gamo gas rams are a odd size , you probably will be good if your going with another gamo, if you are a full power no power restriction great, if not check the air chamber port hole
once the internals are out the pressure will be off of the pivot bolt, then break the barrel open then you punch the bolt then tap it out look at 5:10 into video If you would of watched the video you would of known that info ??
Hi hope ur doing well... I'd like to ask you what is the length of the air cylinder from transfer port all the way till the end (trigger end)... I would really appreciate the info
Hi the air chamber area from inside the port hole to the beginning of the cocking slot is around 5-1/4" the tube from the front of the port hole to the end is 14-1/2"
What's the difference between the gamo with the green band on the stock and the red band? Of course im at the beginning of the video so it may answer my question... Just thought id ask
Hi well I am not up on the other gamos you have to watch for the name because the way they named their guns can confuse you with another model ex) gamo magnum - gamo maximum or gamo magnum swarm, swarm being it has a rotary clip that hold pellets for faster shooting experience. personally I opted out of the rotary clip because I thought it would add more to go wrong but Iam keeping my eye on the model to see if any complaints come up
listed under parts the hatsan 125 piston seal is out of stock! I should have some white ones let me check I'll get back to you they never showed the newer red ones but I think once you change the lube and go over the gun the white ones work just as well just not as good as what the gun really needs
I had magum replay 10 two month i broke it to load and the mechanism loading has popped out of place and no longer closes could you possibly help with this problem
Hi David I can not but I would Call Gamo tell them what is going on, they may send you a new gun or know what to do. I dont have one I always felt it was cool but I was always concerned that the repeat action could be a issue later so for me I stayed with a single cock & individual load the pellet my self after all you have to cock the gun anyway so why not just put the darn pellet in also LOL
Mike, I follow you on here a bit. I also chat with the guys on the forums who’ve had dealings with you. As you’re a Hatsan guy, I’m beginning to view myself as a gamo guy. I’ve only tuned 2 of them to the hilt with a third en route and expected on the 14th. How do you feel about the accuracy of these gamo barrels? Think I’ve just gotten lucky or are they really good? Have you shot enough to have a solid opinion of them?
gamo barrels are great, hammer forged nothing like a hatsan. yes gamo is a good gun/ hatsan are my project guns I go thru them re barrel them you know just custom ize it
I'm so glad i subscribed to your channel some time ago l, thank you for your informative videos, and sharing your passion for airguns.I couldn't help but notice your spare parts, my question is do you have information where i could get an NP 214-131 piston assembly? Crosman is not making them until Corona subsides. Thank You!
Hi Wayne I would stick with crosman I recently bought gas rams from crosman about three weeks ago the ones I bought were from the xl Benjamin the bigger one & the smaller one from the nitro venom air rifle your ram may be slightly different and may not be available ( have no ideal ) but if you need a ram Iam thinking one of the two I use may work each ram was like 10.00 plus 4.00 shipping/ out side of crosman you need information on your guns internal parts for gas ram size and rod length as well as how far does the rod actully travel when its cocked all that is needed when buying a comercial gas ram also they are alot more money
@@MrSteppingstone888 Good afternoon, thanks for your advice, But it's the Piston part i need,,not the gas ram, i did purchase 2 gas rams a few weeks back from Crosman also. and was, and still am looking for a piston, long story short, i purchased a J.Shockey steel eagle that was Canada Specs. They put a hole in the piston to reduce FPS to under 500. & also had a weaker Gas ram. I put J.B weld over the hole and purchased the proper Gas ram part from Crosman. After a few shots weld came loose and power dropped.
@@waynet.7656 Oh wow your looking for a Piston / is there a way you can find a local shop that can weld the hole closed and then you could grind it smoothe just tossing that out there I dont know where they did the hole. and I do not know where you can get a piston for it unless the maker sell parts
I was looking into alternative sources, a place in Spain has the part,,but they want the price i paid for the rifle, for the part LOL,I hadn't thought about a metal shop and it's a great idea. i'll look into it. Thank You!
@@waynet.7656 machine shops are exspensive but hey you never know they may just do it cheap automotive garage but they may do a crappy tak job if the guy doing it is not that good at it ok good luck
well its close I think the 135 is above / but for a gas ram which is slower than a spring usally 50 fps slower this gamo is almost next to a 135 with a aftermarket vorteck spring in it check out this video airgundetectives.com/the-new-gamo-swarm-magnum-gen2-full-review/
I doubt it but I do not know. Iam a wood & steel guy myself but I can tell you this gun feels great to hold the receiver is light so it goes good with the stock remember the barrel bock is not steel the rest of the build is not made like a tank either
LOL a choke is a good thing. not all rifle can benefit depends on how god the barrel is a tapered bore docent need a choke leave it also you dont want to do something like that the lands & groves need to be un interrupted other wise you would not be able to have any accuracy
It depend on what gun it is and what size it is, it would either be the large or smaller gas ram & some fall in between where they wont work, usually there would be adapters that would have to be made
@@MrSteppingstone888 I see, if i were too switch a Gamo g magnum from spring to gas with the correct sized piston would I be able to just swap them out? appreciate it
@@dunno6442 the gas rams need adapters one for each end of the ram, Iam not familiar with the gun you may be wanting to do it to but some guns you can drill the center bottom of the piston so the Rod seats it to keep it centered leaving just the trigger end to make a adapter , it just depends but in any case it is not a simple swap & drop in/ also the gas rams have to be install so that there is pre load meaning the gun would install by having to push the ram together/ that is so the ram cant reach its end when fired if it did it would be slamming its internal parts possibly causing a ram failure
@@dunno6442 Minimum Pre load would be 1/8" / another word with everything lined up the end plug would be sticking out at least 1/8" no less that means when the gun is fired the rams travel stops at 1/8" before it reached its end of slamming into the rams body. some rams will have extra rod length others will just make it with what left to travel. If you do drill the bottom of piston you only need a dished out divot so the rod pivots in the center. without being able to skip out. drilling the rams bottom at center is easy as long as you make a bushing even if its wood, that will just fit in the piston to keep the bit center about mid way down, so you would drill a hole the size of your bit thru it but make the bushing so it fits with out getting jammed inside the piston, I can make adapters but I would need info & pictures
I dont use molly anymore or do any cross hacthing I use super teck high tempiture high preasure extreme duty its red I get it from wallmart and I burnished it into the entire steel tube you need to know how to use it other wise it wil diesel bad but if your more familure with molly then yes you can use molly
Hey can you send me all the measurements for that spring compressor foreign air rifle and pictures of the sizes of wood I would need thank you my friend I would appreciate that
I dont like messing with scope rails for that type of compressor when I get some ones gun it has to be stationed and not move around to keep it from possable damage or scratches
If you our in a country that has airgun power laws and your gamo is set up for that non fac ( air gun restrition on power then it is most likely the gas ram is not full to the full power gamo level/ you would need to change the gas ram that has 170 bar fill atleast
this video has beem a god send. the ONLY decent video, that bit with the trigger, and the little arm? thank you. Also do you happen to tune air guns still? Or work on Gamos at all? Would love my gun to get tuned up!
depends on the gun Yes I tune still . go to my channel read in the banner where it says ( Sharing my passion for airguns, work done ,mods, re barreling, lathe work etc. then click the small > symbol it should pull up my email
I only know it is stronger then any other gas ram including the crosman xl ram /alos Iam not up on your KG but If i was to guess in bar fill I would guess its about 172 bar fill
@@LINAS_ALWAYS_2STEPSAHEAD if you are state side you should not need anymore power its filled way more than other typical gas rams also you can risk burning up a piston seal when you over do it
Pero usted , no saco el PISTON!! Solo el gas RAM!! Lo digo para poder poner!! El centralizador!! Ese redondo metálico !!! Para que encaje el gas RAM!! Dentro del pistón !! Saludos desde España!!
Hi Malcom actually this is a very easy rifle / now a hatsan... those are booby trapped and then some lol gamos have good barrels this magnum is powerful and light weight yet feels good and tend not to have problems like the hatsan
hello I am subscribed to your channel congratulations for the videos, I am writing to you because I need some advice from you who are good at this, I am writing to you from Italy, here unfortunately the maximum power is 7.5 joules, I bought a gamo replay 10 magnium from 5.5, practically the diablo too heavy and it does not go, it sucks, a real shit, can you tell me how can I get it to 45 joules? I hope you can help me because I do not find information anywhere. I hope to hear from you soon
Hi Thomas From what I heard from other guys who had the same restrictions they enlarged the air chamber port hole between the receiver forks the barrel block bolts into, you will have to be able to disassemble the gun , pull the piston out. so you can flush the receiver tube out after you drilled the hole larger. NO MORE THAN 4 MM ! more than that you will loose power again obviously you will have to re do the inside of the tube with what lubricant you learned how to use. be careful putting the piston back, before any re assembling you should go over with fine grit to smooth any cut out sharp edges that may feel catchy inside the tube before lubing & reassembling
Hey Mike, Thanks for your excellent video on assembly and disassembly of the Gamo Magnum and construction of your airgun work station. Expect an email from me with a lot more questions. Thanks in advance. Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
Please tell us also the dimention of piston, chamber, transfer port hole, atm of the gas ram, etc. 'Coz we have a joules restricted version in our Nation...
Hi John I did the show & tell for a youtuber I did not want to pull piston or get further into it because Iam in the middel of other projects & work. Here is a video I saw of a new gamo gen 2 magnum shows feet per second & great accurecy that will give you an ideal airgundetectives.com/the-new-gamo-swarm-magnum-gen2-full-review/
@@MrSteppingstone888 cant play guitar to save my life but for some strange reason I do collect them was a roadie for many years,so have many friends that do.back in 72 i was in a band it was very punk not that we knew that. the term had not been coined yet.
This video is absolute gold, PLEASE DO NOT EVER TAKE IT DOWN!
occasionally you tube will remove a video. I have no problem leaving ths one up
glad it helped
best regards
Mike E
This video is as precious as gold.
Nice idea on the spring relief. You don't even need 3 bolts in that clamp. Just cut that clamp back to that 2nd bolt, it'll be strong enough.
I been meaning to flip that clamp but I think you are spot on I should band saw that off and leave it where it is.
I like heavy duty so I tend to build that way
Thank you Mike. I will be watching this video again when I get my Gamo magnum.
It sure makes it less intimidating watching a pro do it and explain it. Much Appreciated.
Hi D
Your welcome glad it helped
Regards. I want to congratulate you on your excellent work. This is a great video. An infinite hug from San Juan Puerto Rico. Blessings and Health 🙏💯
Thank you so much for this informative video. I have never seen a person like you who response to the needy. God bless you.
I can not do it all the time but I had a short break in the current projects that were going on glad it helped
@@MrSteppingstone888 thank you so much for your precious time
@@AwungshiMZimik Your welcome good luck !
Thanks Mike
I have a new .22 mag coming in tomorrow and now I know how it works, saving the video for future reference.
Very professional, you are an awesome instructor.
I can tell you're very experienced in air guns.
Thank you.
Thank you for letting me know you liked it , I try to do the best job so people can understand .when they watch the video
Well I got the Gamo Magnum GR Spring .22 and started breaking it in. Inspected it really close and started the post-manufacture cleaning and improved lubing. Exterior cleaning and treatment with Hoppes etc. I'm really liking it. It shoots most of the way through a 2 by 4. It detonated once and blasted completely through the 2 x 3 and into my bedding. Very very nice gun. Everything I expected and more and even better then my earlier Gamo break barrel. I decided that this would be one of my 'platform' rifles and so I got a second on on the way. Videos coming up.
its amazing how good the rifle feels even though its plastic, it just feels great
Excellent video, clear, exhaustive explanations and slow enough to follow each step! Thank you for that. I had a newby question. I Europe the power output of these guns is restricted to 24 Joules. I read somewhere that it takes a screwdriver and 5 minutes' work to get rid of this restriction but I would not have a clue. Any pointers in the right direction, maybe?
Hi.
The gas ram would have to be replaced if you want to have more power Ive been told they are not fillable,
then you would have to see what it takes to get it to be installed properly, or what is needed far as a adapter. I have never pulled the gas ram on that gun.
but usually there is some type of adjustment because all gas rams are different in length & size
@@MrSteppingstone888 Thank you for replying. Too bad, I hoped it was just some adjustment of a screw or something. Thanks again.
@@MrSteppingstone888 I found out that it is only a matter of increasing the size of the hole which allows the air to flow through the barrel. A very simple trick, easy enough to carry out - which I'm going to try! :)
@@mennobosman5024 The air chamber port hole between the forks on the receiver tube, it should have a slight chamfer seen when magnified/
well If they made the port hole smaller in size while keeping the full powered gas ram that would be interesting you would think they would just make the lesser powered gas ram/ let me know what your power changed to if you have a crony or what ever you can go by.
this is interesting.
@@MrSteppingstone888 I don't have a chrony but I'll let you know. Full power should make a noticeable difference. I got a document from the seller with photos explaining the 'how to'; he confirmed the story to be correct. To be continued.
Thanks Mike! Great video. I've been looking at your tools and supplies and I see a lot of things I have but I also see some things I'm gonna need tapered punch for sure. I am a big fan of building custom tools like you did with the spring compressor and the brass tool. It's a great way to go and often the only way to get something done right. This video really helped me understand my Gamo better and get ready for the GR spring magnum arriving in a day or two.
Yeah I like my spring compressor it is very versatile
Excellent video very informative and well narrated thank you!
Thank you / You are welcome!
Great video I learned a lot from this. Thanks much appreciated
Awesome. Your welcome
You have a tall bottle of blue stuff on your bench 35 years ago someone gave me a package with 4 bottles in it one was wood stock treatment one degreaser one gun blue and one fine gun oil I think the one you have there is the gun blue anyway never seen that anywhere else thanks for showing this video I just took a Gamo wildcat apart and didn't notice the blocks at the front now I am gonna have to go look and see if they moved.
Hi
The blocks are contoured to the shape of the receiver tube
gamo has some Hoaky build designs that G magnum stock is so thin its like a thin plastic shell, some how it works and still feels good when you hold it.
Hi Mike the GAMO ACCU WHISPER .177 1250 FPS with platinum pellets is just a little different I use a spring compressor on the AW, I use a 5/8 socket compress the spring then push the pin out, you do a great video thanks
Sir, thank you very much for this video, I've learned very much with ir. Appreciated.
I really wish you could compare the gamo magnum side by side with the hatsan 125 or 135, just to see which of the two has the bigger receiver or compressor tube, because this is what will ultimately drive more air volume and transfer more energy to the pellet.
Hatsan claims about 30mm diameter for the 135, 29mm for the 125, while gamo 33mm.
Knowing the length would be interesting.
Appreciate to hear your comment.
When I get time I'll do it since the gamo comes apart fairly easy
but currently Iam burried in a project
@@MrSteppingstone888
Thanks
@@klrdto3250 the gamo isin't 33 mm tube thats the outside not inside it should be 29mm but I will check and do a vid on both
@@MrSteppingstone888
That's very kind of you :)
Looking forward
My GSM GEN1 was giving me velocity issues. Took it apart because I suspected the piston seal went bad because the cocking effort was the same. Turns out I was right. Ordered another factory stock seal and it was good as new again. Btw when changing out the piston seal my suggestion is to replace it with the same factory stock piston seal. Anything softer in terms of the material the seal is made out of and you will not get the velocity the rifle is suppose to achieve. Also swapped out the spring system in my GAMO SWARM FOX .22 with the IGT gas ram and she shoots sooooo sweet!!
Did you buy the gas ram from gammo and how much did it cost
yes they have specialpiston seals
@@MrSteppingstone888 I bought both the magnum and regular IGT pistons from John Knibbs international airgun store in the U.K. The magnum part # is 48450.
@@willwhite2310 ok thank you
Great video. Never actually assembled one, out of sheer fear of not knowing what to find. This really helps. Do you know if a Gamo Delta Cadet has the same mechanism?
Hello Mike. I was wondering if you had time to make a brass jig to remove the pin and sell it?
you still have my email ? send me a email , if not go to my home page read in the banner
Sharing my passion for airguns, work done ,mods, re barreling, lathe work etc. > see the small arrow click on it
Thanks Mike, am now in the process of building a spring compressor.
@20:30 you mentioned cutting the C-clamp back some to access the retaining pin. Couldn't you just have punched out the pin from the opposite side? Would the pin release? I am building it now, and am thinking of putting the clamp on the other side for this reason
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Hi Kurt
I would flip the Clamp to the other side if I re do mine over , because its a pain leaning over trying to see clearly and coming in straight on it. especially at my bench height/and also I would raise the compressor one more additional 2x 4 or whatever 2x you use for better clearance when turning the clamp handle
I am always shoving things out of the way to make sure my hand is clear when turning the handle/ dont know if I mentioned it but I use foam pipe insul to drop the receiver into before it goes between the wood rails then you learn how far to cover the receiver, so the insul doesn't mess up your alignment .I think maybe just using a cut towel to wrap the tube would be better fit up and the two rails could be closer but at least everything is protected especially if you work on someone's else gun
@@MrSteppingstone888
Thanks Mike, so much for getting back.
I was thinking routing some V- shape blocks, with a gap in the middle to strap it down too, so it self centers and will accommodate any size chamber. And using leather instead of foam, from projects I've had laying around.
That sounds awesome I threw mine together its just basic
@@MrSteppingstone888
Awesome video, you point out a lot of details. It's a good reference to build on.👍
@@kurthenze2900 If you click on my name to go to my channel you can click the about tab then scroll down to pull up my email info.
when you get all done if you want send me some pictures.
Thanks
Thanks a bunch, mate! I will download this video for further use in my workshop. Really good ideas and clear and understandable prosedure!
Your Welcome / 👍
Thank you so very much, you're a God send.. Saved to my library for reviewing many times more,, Be safe and God Bless
God job , best regards from Spain
Thank You !
Mike, for those of us with minimal tools, have you ever thought about making the special slotted piece for decompressing the Gamo Magnums and selling them? Depending on price, I would be interested. I have a Gamo Extreme Hunter and Gamo GR Magnum. Excellent video by the way.
Hi.
If you mean a tool to clamp to the scope rail to remove and install the internals they already make them.
I don't like the ideal when working on some ones gun clamping on to the scope rail. I rather know that its protected from wear or scratches
this is very simple you could buy a saw like a Ryobi and drill or harbor freight has the large C clamp and tools etc..
Great video! I have a Gamo replay 10 IGT 22 mag., and I figure at some point barrel seal will be worn out from usage. Could you do a video on how to replace a barrel seal?
Harbour freight has inexspensive PICK tool set with orange handels you just need to sand the tips thinner and pointer the seal sit in there you pull it usung a pick tool & if the new one sticks out to far you carefully sand the bottom of the seal
usally the breech seal last a Long long time
@@MrSteppingstone888 thank you for the info!
@@jerrygillespie6121 your welcome
best regards Mike E
All of you doing your own work. Take a picture of each step of your tear downs. You will have a pictorial guide for reassembly.
Many thanks, great video very explainable. If I use motor oil for lubrication that could be bad for my magnum 1250?
Yes That would be BAD if it gets in front of the piston seal it can cause denotation. detonation can ruin the barrel & air chamber port hole. NO gear lube no oil has to be non petroleum like below
there is two area's the air chamber which is in front of the piston seal then there is the rest of the tube from cocking slot on back . synthetic can be used it gets burnished into the steel tube/ typically a molly paste is used in air chamber then swiped on piston seal sides when installing the piston ,or you can use super tek synthetic lube its non petroleum from wallmart its red, you can burnish both into the tube along with the air chamber use a wood dowel with rolled up paper towel taped tight at middle & end on the dowel so it wont move
but once piston is down inside the air chamber the tube area behind the piston should get another non petroleum lube
such as Lucas red its in a small bottle from O riley auto , it is usually on the counter/ use a wood dowel with paper towel rolled up & taped tight you want the tube walls lightly wet but not dripping, that way the piston has lubrication when it slides back /when doing the air chamber I mark the dowel so I know where the line of lube was put on the paper towel, goin & out but one direction around usually so the paper towel folds tighter not un raveled direction
for a spring if you have one just lightly coat it so its not bare with super tek red lube, do not glob it up /here is a link. price went up on this
www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Tech-Multi-Duty-Complex-Hi-Temp-Grease-14-oz-Tub/16795246
@@MrSteppingstone888 thank you very much for your prompt answer, it was very helpful and understandable.
@@ariskarageorgiou9517 If you decide to use molly you can use this from air rifle head quarters/I am not up on other so called molly lubes / usually in a air chamber area they will cross hacth the tube so the steel has XXX light scratch pattern but that steel is not honed smooth & has micro scratches in it already I would just burnish the air chamber after you cleaned out the old oils and lube
super tech brake cleaner spray from wallmart removes& cuts grease better than anything I know but you need a exhausts fan or do it outside again with wood dowel & rolled up paper towel
www.airrifleheadquarters.com/page/page/251327.htm
@@ariskarageorgiou9517 I just bought this Red line CV-2 off Ebay
20.00 compared to 29.00 from wall marts super tech , it may even be better here's a Ebay link.
www.ebay.com/itm/302034667728?epid=1311852766&hash=item4652ab48d0:g:sH4AAOSw9~xe09NO
@@MrSteppingstone888 do.you know anything about drilling the tube hole? Because I drilled my gamo magnum 1250 4.5mm and I opened from 4mm to 4.5mm and I do not know if it gains more fps or lose fps
Merci bien , ça m'a aidé à voir si ma pièce était bien mise en place , car au rechargement elle a déjà frottée le verrin !! Et des rayures sont apparus 😱😱 !! Donc j'ai démonté et remonté avec de la graisse sur les parties metalliques qui frottent ... Et tout ça pour gagner 16 joules (je suis passé de 21 joules à 37 joules) en perçant le 'port de transfert' avec un foret de 3mm , a faire avec le prot de transfert vers le bas et un peu de graisse sur le forêt !!🤘🤠🤘
Génial, content que ça marche. 👍
Hey Mike love your videos especially the hatsan stuff. I have a 125 sniper spring version. Was wondering if there was anyplace in the US that sells a quality piston seal and breech seal for this rifle. Thanks
Hi Mike
All the after market piston seals wont hold up, what happens is the rifle will level off as the seal wears in bringing the fps below what it is capabable of getting
hatsan breech seals are fine, if you were to get a piston seal hatsan has new red seals or custom air seals in australia ( they take 30 days for delivery) seals on ebay from russia I never tried them.
I make custom o ring piston caps for my guns , worked wonders for the hatsan 95 but bigger magnums I will need to come up with a different set up
Could you tell me the diameter of that brass tool you made?
I'm planning to make one for myself.
Thank you.
that is a 3/4" brass nipple
Hi MIke - really appreciate your video. I have a Gamo Rapto Whisper (gas ram) that when the trigger is pulled, nothing happens. Safety is off, there is (was tension) in cocking it but nothing happens when the trigger is pulled. Would this be a trigger issue or possibly something else?
The barrel cocking was full normal tension? did you mess with trigger adjustment, if so try & undo what you may of over adjusted. If you send that gun somewhere make sure you pushed the pellet out of the breech get some help to break barrel open & shove a thin rod up bore to knock the pellet out be careful !
my contact info is in the "about me" tab if you go to my channel
@@MrSteppingstone888 Thanks for the super quick response Mike. Yes, barrel was cocking full normal tension and did not mess with trigger or any adjustments. Nothing loaded right now - barrel is empty. Just don't understand what may have "broken" since it seems to be cocking (under tension) but pulling trigger does nothing.
@@JohnnyD975 Is it under warranty / well its cocked & ready to fire yet with safety off the trigger works but she wont fire /sounds like the gas ram blew loosing its pressure after the piston engaged with the trigger sear. anything is possible/ are you able to work on your own gun if it is the gas ram you may be able to get another on line or from Gamo
@@JohnnyD975 So do you know if the piston is engaged with the trigger sear since you cocked it and she wont fire ?
@@MrSteppingstone888 Thank you Sir! Agree, sounds like gas ram blew (warranty expired). Will try to find and order replacement gas ram. Thanks again - really appreciate your insight.
i am trying to find out if a gamo magnum barrel will fit on a silent whisper gamo rifle i do not like that sillencer on the front of the whisper i was toldthat the main body of most all gamo rifles are the same with the o ring seal for the barrel on the chamber not the barrel
Hi Terry
Contact my friend Rich Shar he has dealt a lot more with the gamos rdshar5@comcast.net great guy to deal with
Hi Mike, the part called out at minute 1:09:10 which snaps on the lever to protect the barrel from scratching has broken on my Swarm Magnum .22. It must have slipped off and has gotten jammed back by where the cable hooks up from the trigger. It's all torn up and the gun won't cock because of it. Do you know the part # or where I could find one? Thanks, Brian
Hi Brian you would have to contact gamo see whats available
im having a lot of troubles with this rifle, i cant make it shoot accurately... i only get 1.8 or 2 inches groups... at 10 yards.... in the past i had a benjamin prowler.... with it icould easily hit the target at 60 meters using poor quality pellets... and with this gamo im using good pellets. in your experience, what do you think could be the problems? bad crowning? bad muzzle brake? i would really appreciate it if you could give me some advice.
with all break barrels the typical would be to go thru the list.
check the hand break make sure it is not clipping the pellet or something out of alignment inside it , check breech block pivot bolt is correct tightness and barrel doesn't drop down after its cocked and still not shut. then the bore see if its not filthy from crosman pellets which often can foul a barrel out fast due to the junk in them at times. check breech seal is not leaking/ using the closed up on a thin piece of tissue then fire the pellet thru it to see if any tissue blows out. check the stock bolts, and finally check you scope set up often the scope shifts on these magnums / see what you get when using the open sights compared to your scope set up
know how far out from reticle center you dialed the turrets to get on bulls eye if its to much it could cause the reticle to shift its best if the scope is zeroed and you bend the barrel to get the point of impact close to the bulls eye/ every gun is different also you can clean the bore then use a thin smoothed ended rod to push the pellet down thru slowly and you feel what the pellet to bore contact is to determine if the bore is good or pellet has to much free fall do it on a45 degree downward but no more you don't want the weight if the rod to push the pellet but just go slowly while your feeling every nuisance as you go thru and be sure the pellet falls out the hand break when done / Gamos have good barrels but you never know . if pellet is snug and hard to push then it becomes super easy etc you need to know what your bore is telling you. but start the pellet in the bore tuck it just past the breech don't use the skinny rod to get it started use something else then he skinny rod so you don't fight in the beginning once inside then you can pay attention to its travel and what it is telling you. FYI if you check the bore for pellet to bore fit the barrel needs to be cleaned first or you can definitely get a bad reading, I use goo gone & patches etc / If you later do bend the bore don't put pressure on the barrel block its plastic you would need to set up and use a press carefully on barrel only and lastly a little bend goes a long way go easy and you wont have to re bend it back if you went to far
Aloha, great video. Swarm magnum is way to loud. Is it possible to make quieter? mahaloz
Hi. You would have to remove the hand brake and install a sound suppressor
What are the piston and sear made of ?
Piston is steel, I did not look into the trigger components
Mike is it the same procedure removing the gas ram from my Hatsan 87? As far as the spring removal?
Yes if you watched some hatsan videos I did with a spring its the same
mod 87 is like the 125 has the same safety assembly not like the hatsan 95
if you need anything let me know
Hey Mike, great video!!!
I just found your channel yesterday and already just watched four videos and subscribed.
Anyway, I watched this video because I was hoping to get some insight into increasing the power of my Gamos.
I was wondering if there is anything you can do to increase the fpe of a springpiston air rifle.
I think based on this video it should be simple enough. You made another video four years ago mentioning that you wanted the Hunter Extreme and you waited for a while before you found one. Is it possible to just buy a heavier spring and just swap them out? I think I heard that the Hunter Extreme has a cocking effort of 60 pounds. Is it possible to buy a 60 pound spring and just swap them out? I would love to have a hunter extreme in .22 where would I buy a 60 pound spring at a auto parts shop or an airgun parts shop?
Also, do you know approximately how many fpe would result from a 60 pound spring shooting a 14.3 grain pellet? Approximately, what grain weight would be ideal to be used in a .22 Hunter Extreme to maintain flight stability and be enough to humanely harvest a wild hog around 50 to 60 pounds?
Anyway thanks again for a great video!!!
Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
Hi Ken. The gamo is pretty darn powerful as it is. if your wanting to hunt hogs I would get a pcp air rifle and look your way into that side of things , compressor wise a lot of guys buy the Youg heng tons of how to use them videos on youtube
I grabbed pcp air tanks fro ali express at 1/3rd the cost then in usa with gauges & hose set up and the pump can be found at the best prices under 300.00 in usa OK BACK TO SPRINGER
You cant just grab a spring and wala ,/ you will burn up the piston seal
if you convert a gas ram rifle from a gas ram to a spring "usually you will gain 50 fps because the spring releases its energy faster . Vorteck products inc springs are designed for air guns so they will not break under the working conditions, you would have to see what he has available that you may be able to try. but honestly if your into hunting for game save yourself the effort and just go into pcp and maybe up the caliber to .25 rite now the big ammo is hard to come buy due to the covid crap.
also you know in air gun with gas or spring power verses pcp the pcp are deadly accurate bulls eyes& stacking pellets at 50yds is typical
where the other can not due to recoil and harmonics sure you can get a powerful pellet rifle to get the job done but If you want more then whats available then your looking at pcp the air venturi avenger came out with a wood stock version I think for 450.00 shipped from pryamyd air had outstanding reviews last time I looked it over
2nd reply/ IF your dead set on non pcp I can set up a hatsan I have my own custom parts made for them that will create better fps getting its proper fps & making the gun a lot smoother . I offer rear piston bearing rings and I know exactly what to look for that most don't. only thing I need is the owner to be sure he has a good bore by cleaning the bore & doing a pellet to bore test by slowly sliding the pellet thru to see if it has bore to pellet contact or if it has no bore to pellet contact the slightest drag is fine but free fall is not/ heck I can even re barrel but if you buy a hatsan check the bore and find that its bad then shoot it and see its not accurate you can send it back .
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@@MrSteppingstone888 Hey Mike, Thanks for the prompt reply!!!
Regarding the .22 Hunter Extreme project, actually I just thought it would be a cool project and great to have a springer with a 60 pound spring that would be adequate in foot pounds of energy to take down feral hogs. I also wanted to save money by just buying the spring and swapping the new heavier one for the old lighter one. I already have a few spring piston Gamos in .22 and I thought that just switching the spring would be adequate and cheaper.
According to one video I saw, the Gamo Jungle is a springer that tops out at 30 foot pounds of energy with a 40 pound cocking effort. The accuracy was only tested to 40 or so yards but it could probably do 50 easily. So I figured if I swapped the springs I might end up with about 45 foot pounds of energy and possibly increase the range by another 15 to 25 yards for a total maximum range of about 65 foot pounds of energy and a range of about 65 yards.
By the way, do you hunt with slugs? I haven't thus far but assume that with the better flight stability the increase in fpe and gain of range would be much better than a pcp.
I havent seen a combo pcp and hand pump for less than $350. But to date I haven't spent more than $200 on any of my Gamo springers. I figure a heavier spring wont cost $150. The only down side is that there aren't any scopes that I know of that can take the abuse of the double recoil so you would have to stick with iron sights. At 52 yoa, my vision is not what it used to be.
Anyway, thanks again.
Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
Hi Mike, can you give me your advice on the Hatsan model 135 Vortex QE .22 VS. Gamo Swarm Magnum 10X GEN2 .22. Your advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Hi Carlos get the gamo swarm the hatsans I go over & redo the internals with my custom parts but the gamo is good to go usually its powerful lightweight feels good fun & accurate have a decent trigger & although the stock is light & flimsey you dont notoce it unless its off
/ check out some youtube videos on them
@@MrSteppingstone888 Thank you very much for your answer Mike. I will take it seriously. I have read many very good comments about you.
@@carlosc3383 Your welcome
I work the hatsan magnums guns that people already bought , I rebuild the gas rams & have custom parts for them turning them into a very nice powerful rifle but with shipping it cost
@@MrSteppingstone888 Excellent, you are doing a great job i'll keep it in mind. Just in case, if I get the hatsan.
Seems like it would be fairly easy to fit that ram in other model gamo rifles. In Ireland where I live the roadster model gen two is 370 euro and the magnum is over 500. That ram is about 40 euros online. I think I'll be doing a little experiment 😂
I believe the gamo gas rams are a odd size , you probably will be good if your going with another gamo, if you are a full power no power restriction great, if not check the air chamber port hole
@@MrSteppingstone888 I'll check that out thanks for the info.
Hey. How can I remove the pivot bolt connecting barrel and compression chamber
once the internals are out the pressure will be off of the pivot bolt, then break the barrel open then you punch the bolt then tap it out look at 5:10 into video
If you would of watched the video you would of known that info ??
Hi hope ur doing well...
I'd like to ask you what is the length of the air cylinder from transfer port all the way till the end (trigger end)...
I would really appreciate the info
Hi
the air chamber area from inside the port hole to the beginning of the cocking slot is around 5-1/4"
the tube from the front of the port hole to the end is 14-1/2"
@@MrSteppingstone888 Thank you, dearest Mike!
It’s means 3mm or 4mm?
@@pankajgupta4107 we are talking about the length of the compression tube... Units is inches
What's the difference between the gamo with the green band on the stock and the red band? Of course im at the beginning of the video so it may answer my question... Just thought id ask
Hi
well I am not up on the other gamos you have to watch for the name because the way they named their guns can confuse you with another model ex) gamo magnum - gamo maximum or gamo magnum swarm, swarm being it has a rotary clip that hold pellets for faster shooting experience.
personally I opted out of the rotary clip because I thought it would add more to go wrong but Iam keeping my eye on the model to see if any complaints come up
RED .177 GREEN .22
Great instructional video. Another please
listed under parts the hatsan 125 piston seal is out of stock!
I should have some white ones let me check I'll get back to you
they never showed the newer red ones but I think once you change the lube and go over the gun the white ones work just as well just not as good as what the gun really needs
I had magum replay 10 two month i broke it to load and the mechanism loading has popped out of place and no longer closes could you possibly help with this problem
Hi David I can not but I would Call Gamo tell them what is going on, they may send you a new gun or know what to do.
I dont have one I always felt it was cool but I was always concerned that the repeat action could be a issue later so for me I stayed with a single cock & individual load the pellet my self after all you have to cock the gun anyway so why not just put the darn pellet in also LOL
Buenos días soy de el salvador y tengo un gamo swarm magnung 2da generación y quiero suavizar el gatillo me podría dar algún consejo se lo agradeceré
Mike, I follow you on here a bit. I also chat with the guys on the forums who’ve had dealings with you. As you’re a Hatsan guy, I’m beginning to view myself as a gamo guy. I’ve only tuned 2 of them to the hilt with a third en route and expected on the 14th. How do you feel about the accuracy of these gamo barrels? Think I’ve just gotten lucky or are they really good? Have you shot enough to have a solid opinion of them?
gamo barrels are great, hammer forged nothing like a hatsan.
yes gamo is a good gun/ hatsan are my project guns I go thru them re barrel them you know just custom ize it
I'm so glad i subscribed to your channel some time ago l, thank you for your informative videos, and sharing your passion for airguns.I couldn't help but notice your spare parts, my question is do you have information where i could get an NP 214-131 piston assembly? Crosman is not making them until Corona subsides. Thank You!
Hi Wayne
I would stick with crosman I recently bought gas rams from crosman about three weeks ago the ones I bought were from the xl Benjamin the bigger one & the smaller one from the nitro venom air rifle your ram may be slightly different and may not be available ( have no ideal ) but if you need a ram Iam thinking one of the two I use may work
each ram was like 10.00 plus 4.00 shipping/ out side of crosman you need information on your guns internal parts for gas ram size and rod length as well as how far does the rod actully travel when its cocked all that is needed when buying a comercial gas ram also they are alot more money
@@MrSteppingstone888 Good afternoon, thanks for your advice, But it's the Piston part i need,,not the gas ram, i did purchase 2 gas rams a few weeks back from Crosman also. and was, and still am looking for a piston, long story short, i purchased a J.Shockey steel eagle that was Canada Specs. They put a hole in the piston to reduce FPS to under 500. & also had a weaker Gas ram. I put J.B weld over the hole and purchased the proper Gas ram part from Crosman. After a few shots weld came loose and power dropped.
@@waynet.7656
Oh wow your looking for a Piston / is there a way you can find a local shop that can weld the hole closed and then you could grind it smoothe
just tossing that out there I dont know where they did the hole. and I do not know where you can get a piston for it unless the maker sell parts
I was looking into alternative sources, a place in Spain has the part,,but they want the price i paid for the rifle, for the part LOL,I hadn't thought about a metal shop and it's a great idea. i'll look into it. Thank You!
@@waynet.7656 machine shops are exspensive but hey you never know they may just do it cheap automotive garage but they may do a crappy tak job if the guy doing it is not that good at it
ok good luck
Which one has more power Potential? 135 or gamo magnum?
well its close I think the 135 is above / but for a gas ram which is slower than a spring usally 50 fps slower this gamo is almost next to a 135 with a aftermarket vorteck spring in it
check out this video
airgundetectives.com/the-new-gamo-swarm-magnum-gen2-full-review/
Nothing is like 135 !!!
Thx form Berlin. Nice tool ...
my question sir is, does gamo make a wood stock on any gun that will interchange with this gun?
I doubt it but I do not know. Iam a wood & steel guy myself but I can tell you this gun feels great to hold the receiver is light so it goes good with the stock
remember the barrel bock is not steel the rest of the build is not made like a tank either
Mike Ellingsworth** Mr Stepping Stone*** yeah now i'm looking at the rws 3500 gas ram while i save for the air arms mklll
Is a choke in a rifle good to have or should I drill it out with a drill bit
LOL a choke is a good thing. not all rifle can benefit depends on how god the barrel is a tapered bore docent need a choke leave it
also you dont want to do something like that the lands & groves need to be un interrupted other wise you would not be able to have any accuracy
Is it possible to replace a spring piston with a itg gas piston?
It depend on what gun it is and what size it is, it would either be the large or smaller gas ram & some fall in between where they wont work, usually there would be adapters that would have to be made
@@MrSteppingstone888 I see, if i were too switch a Gamo g magnum from spring to gas with the correct sized piston would I be able to just swap them out? appreciate it
@@dunno6442 the gas rams need adapters one for each end of the ram, Iam not familiar with the gun you may be wanting to do it to but some guns you can drill the center bottom of the piston so the Rod seats it to keep it centered leaving just the trigger end to make a adapter , it just depends but in any case it is not a simple swap & drop in/ also the gas rams have to be install so that there is pre load meaning the gun would install by having to push the ram together/ that is so the ram cant reach its end when fired if it did it would be slamming its internal parts possibly causing a ram failure
@@MrSteppingstone888 oh ok thanks man 👍
@@dunno6442 Minimum Pre load would be 1/8" / another word with everything lined up the end plug would be sticking out at least 1/8" no less that means when the gun is fired the rams travel stops at 1/8" before it reached its end of slamming into the rams body. some rams will have extra rod length others will just make it with what left to travel. If you do drill the bottom of piston you only need a dished out divot so the rod pivots in the center. without being able to skip out. drilling the rams bottom at center is easy as long as you make a bushing even if its wood, that will just fit in the piston to keep the bit center about mid way down, so you would drill a hole the size of your bit thru it but make the bushing so it fits with out getting jammed inside the piston, I can make adapters but I would need info & pictures
You are the best
What type of grease do you use for piston seal? Moly 60-70%?
I dont use molly anymore or do any cross hacthing
I use super teck high tempiture high preasure extreme duty its red I get it from wallmart
and I burnished it into the entire steel tube you need to know how to use it other wise it wil diesel bad
but if your more familure with molly then yes you can use molly
Great info sir
Great video thank you 👍
Thank you !
Really useful video. Thanks.
Hey can you send me all the measurements for that spring compressor foreign air rifle and pictures of the sizes of wood I would need thank you my friend I would appreciate that
contact me at awaysmike@hotmail.com
Use a spring compressor, attatching on the scope-rail, way easier and fits it all..
I dont like messing with scope rails for that type of compressor
when I get some ones gun it has to be stationed and not move around to keep it from possable damage or scratches
do you know how they detuned these Gamo (500fps)? i need full power. Thanks.
If you our in a country that has airgun power laws and your gamo is set up for that non fac ( air gun restrition on power then it is most likely the gas ram is not full to the full power gamo level/ you would need to change the gas ram that has 170 bar fill atleast
hi Mike my gamo has a1.6 transfer port and says 24joules how can I upgrade
@@georgestamos4674 1.6MM ?? Are you outside of the US /let me measure my
transfer port and get back to you
I’m leaving in Europe it’s a grizzly 1250 gti Mach 1 5.5 rifle the force to cock it it’s about 50 lb
Hi again Mike don’t want to be a pest did you by any chance measure the transfer port of a magnum rifle. Thanks again
The insider compression chamber is it really 33 mm???
NO it is 30mm
this video has beem a god send. the ONLY decent video, that bit with the trigger, and the little arm? thank you.
Also do you happen to tune air guns still? Or work on Gamos at all? Would love my gun to get tuned up!
depends on the gun Yes I tune still . go to my channel read in the banner where it says ( Sharing my passion for airguns, work done ,mods, re barreling, lathe work etc. then click the small > symbol it should pull up my email
@@MrSteppingstone888 found it! Sent to the email I found. Thanks so much!
Can't find any factory Hatsan parts. Emailed them twice no answer
I have a 125 hatsan piston seal if you need one/ reach me thru my email
awaysmike@hotmail.com
Hello. Do you the power of the igt? 60kg? Best regards
I only know it is stronger then any other gas ram including the crosman xl ram /alos Iam not up on your KG but If i was to guess in bar fill I would guess its about 172 bar fill
Any power mods for the new gamo gen2?
Hi Steven
No LOL 👍
Mike Ellingsworth** Mr Stepping Stone*** hopefully doesn’t take the air riffle community to long to crack that one lol
@@LINAS_ALWAYS_2STEPSAHEAD if you are state side you should not need anymore power its filled way more than other typical gas rams also you can risk burning up a piston seal when you over do it
I’m not sure why you’d want to increase power... accuracy tuning sure.
Dexter Lecter for heavier pellets to have a higher velocity, and still stay accurate, for hunting hogs and coyotes
Great great video
Pero usted , no saco el PISTON!! Solo el gas RAM!! Lo digo para poder poner!! El centralizador!! Ese redondo metálico !!! Para que encaje el gas RAM!! Dentro del pistón !! Saludos desde España!!
Ok suena bien ! Estoy usando google translator, pero creo que veo lo que estabas diciendo.
Hi.
I do not know, I have not had that rifle
Looks like rocket science for a noob like me.
Hi Malcom
actually this is a very easy rifle / now a hatsan... those are booby trapped and then some lol gamos have good barrels this magnum is powerful and light weight yet feels good and tend not to have problems like the hatsan
Lol... “Are you watching”
I recently had eye surgery / yes the thing is flimsy
hello I am subscribed to your channel congratulations for the videos, I am writing to you because I need some advice from you who are good at this, I am writing to you from Italy, here unfortunately the maximum power is 7.5 joules, I bought a gamo replay 10 magnium from 5.5, practically the diablo too heavy and it does not go, it sucks, a real shit, can you tell me how can I get it to 45 joules? I hope you can help me because I do not find information anywhere. I hope to hear from you soon
Hi Thomas
From what I heard from other guys who had the same restrictions
they enlarged the air chamber port hole between the receiver forks the barrel block bolts into, you will have to be able to disassemble the gun , pull the piston out. so you can flush the receiver tube out after you drilled the hole larger.
NO MORE THAN 4 MM ! more than that you will loose power again
obviously you will have to re do the inside of the tube with what lubricant you learned how to use. be careful putting the piston back, before any re assembling you should go over with fine grit to smooth any cut out sharp edges that may feel catchy inside the tube before lubing & reassembling
@@MrSteppingstone888 thanks you have helped me so much, as soon as I get home I will try and let you know the progress, thank you very much 👍👍👍
Hey Mike,
Thanks for your excellent video on assembly and disassembly of the Gamo Magnum and construction of your airgun work station.
Expect an email from me with a lot more questions.
Thanks in advance.
Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
Thanx!
Your Welcome
Please tell us also the dimention of piston, chamber, transfer port hole, atm of the gas ram, etc. 'Coz we have a joules restricted version in our Nation...
Hi John I did the show & tell for a youtuber I did not want to pull piston or get further into it because Iam in the middel of other projects & work.
Here is a video I saw of a new gamo gen 2 magnum shows feet per second & great accurecy that will give you an ideal
airgundetectives.com/the-new-gamo-swarm-magnum-gen2-full-review/
Thank u Mike...
Thank you
I understand all. I will start working next week. Thank you. I surely will do email you. Thanks
Best way to fix a gamo put it under the wheel of your truck and run over it
th-cam.com/video/g-PUqVZCPWg/w-d-xo.html
It ain’t rocket surgery
thats ok if you play sax !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol yes it looks like a saz mouth peice
@@MrSteppingstone888 not just the mouth piece Mike the fingering too rewatch your vid !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@davidprocter3578 lol its cause I play guitar I noticed that also
@@MrSteppingstone888 cant play guitar to save my life but for some strange reason I do collect them was a roadie for many years,so have many friends that do.back in 72 i was in a band it was very punk not that we knew that. the term had not been coined yet.
@@davidprocter3578 I build my own stratocasters but got away from it, I have one I need to build have all the parts ready just dont have the time lol
thank you