UPDATE! Pelican sent out the hydryve II. We will make a review on the new drive after some testing. Contact Pelican via their warranty page on their website and they should send you one as well.
@@danielrice5474 the individual parts don’t fit the pelican drive but the whole hobie drive will ft the pelican kayak in replacement of the whole pelican drive
*Very well-made, stable, comfortable **enjoyable.fishing** recommend love that everything fits in bag. Easy to paddle for single person as well, however might be too heavy to carry by one.*
Ive only had mine for a week so far but ive been removing the drive before entering any high weeds or shallow water. I have no expectations for it to survive being slammed into the bottom of the lake.
Great video. I was looking into buying a Nice fairly reasonable priced pedal drive. Saw this Pelican and looked it over. I always check reviews and Glad i do. Nice looking kayak, too bad it comes with issues like this. My buddy just brought the Vibe Makanna 100 and same deal, every time hwe hit the water within a hour or so the plastic gears round off. Thanks for the video, It saved me time, money and headache
I own the hdii drive and 130 kayak and I love it the new build quality is great. And I take it offshore the most including surf launching. I am on the west coast
I just bought a new 110 Hydrive. Have fished with an old Ocean kayak for 20 years. But at 85 my right shoulder is in bad shape. They included an extra set of fin rods. Have used it once so far with good results. Hoping the new drive is better.
It is better but still makes a ton of noise. I wouldn’t recommend it anymore there’s much better stuff for the same price or leads hope you are subscribed there’s a lot of great new content
Overly negative review. I have a buddy who owns a pelican, and when his drive broke they sent the HD II.... not the old version of the drive. Furthermore, Hobie has its own problems: the drive well being integral to the body of the entire Kayak = Stress fractures, leaking hull. The pelican has a replaceable drive well. I plan on getting the pelican catch 130 after seeing the layout. The open fishing platform is superior, the price is right, and pelican takes care of its customers, something else I’ve heard otherwise about Hobie...... Since you seem to be comparing the two. Pelican, much better bang for the buck IMO, especially as they’re upgrading the drive and taking care of their customers!
We have owned 2 of these yaks for over a year and have owned 5 hobies. I hope your experience is better than ours. There are new hobies and used hobies that aren’t much more expensive. I stand behind my review and suggest you get something else. Tight lines brother.
I know this an old video, but I have a fix for the old HyDryve. I have fixed tons of these and suggest that others do it when they first purchase them. You save alot of money, time and frustration. I apply epoxy loc tite, tork it down, Then drill a hole through the housing and through the center of the bolt (side) holding the flipper to the assembly and stick a cotter pin in it. Others have used a screw ( drilling the hole then tapping it out ). Any way I hope this helps someone, I charge 50 dollars to do it. So you are saving yourself at least that much doing it yourself.
I've had mine about 3 years now. I had one of the old drives break just last year. Called Hobie they sent me out the HD drive second gen 2 version. Did not have any trouble out of it. But a friend of mine destroyed his Hobie. So I bought his Hobie drive with the turbo fans 180...$350... And it is 10 times better than the pelican drive. I still love the 130 because it's lightweight you could throw it over your shoulder and climb over a fence if you had to. My buddies out back he could not load it unload it without help. To me that's a big difference. Although the 130 is not stable enough for a big guy like myself to stand. In his Hobie you could do somersault in. I still love my 130. I have had the feel free Dorado. Awesome awesome kayak! But it weighs a ton. Recently sold it and bought the three water 108. It's also a beast kind of like the Dorado? So I find myself using the pelican 130 more than anything! Great video I'm sure it's helped a lot of people!
@@SlotCityFishing the HD2 does not. My Hobie drive makes a little bit more noise but it's a lot faster and just feels like it's a lot more rugged! Luckily I had a great experience with customer service! And luckily my first drive the original lasted so long. But a big difference between the Gen 1 and the Gen 2 HD. But still no comparison to the Hobie!
Good review. To all the potential new kayak anglers and/or paddle anglers looking for a pedal kayak, demo all brands to see what you like. In regards to fin style kayaks, Hobie set the standard. It seems like these other companies are trying to make the market more affordable and competitive, but fail to put out a quality product. Maybe Vibe or Lightning Strike has got it right, but can’t go wrong with a Hobie, if you know kayak fishing is going to be long term hobby for you then buy a Hobie.
Even more so now. The Hobie Passport 12.0 has the kick up mirage drive, is very stable, and is a good fishing platform. Coming in at 1600-1700 dollars it is a great buy.
@@frankw2328 thanks man I am the new kayaker and will start the trip from this year. So I think I will buy a 110hd for the beginning. Thanks for your reply.
Doug Phair 0 seconds ago Hi I just bought a HD 130 and I set it up But the cord that you pull to rais and lower the Rudder will not work I can pull it but it will nor move. if I am 2 ft. from the rudder I can move it up and down but very hard. The lines are not twister Help Thanks Doug
Nothing wrong with paddling but its def a bummer when u plan to pedal all day.. Gotta keep an open mind, ive broke 2 Hobie drives the same way, didnt hit nothing either, I hate that flipper style drive, the Prop style drives are better!! Just a fyi to ppl looking to buy a pedal drive kayak, I just wanted to say IF your drive breaks while ur on the water dont let it ruin your day, paddling a kayak isnt that bad at all. And I know pros that kayak fish and refuse to use pedal drives or motors on there kayaks. I rarely use my drive I like to paddle on the lakes a lot. If u wanna add something to ur kayak that will actually help u fish bettter Id suggest a power pole system. Way more important and helpful than a pedal drive or motor. If your a bass angler that is.... Great vid bro love the honesty!
you earned my like sub and bell. saved me $1k today. Thank you for your honest review. time to watch more of your videos and decide what yak im buying.
I've always thought the "flipper" type drives look fragile and prone to failure. If i spring for a pedal kayak, I will look for one that uses the propeller.
Great review! Where did you get the little trolling motor with hydryve cassette you held up in this video? I thought you said “dan strong outdoors” but I can’t seem to find any info searching that. Thanks
i mean from what i saw from that example I mean your really running it onto thick grass wont that still put a lot of stress even on a "high grade plastic"? its not metal so it'll definitely break. speaking of which they should just make it out of carbon fiber which is as light as plastic and almost as tough as steel!
Appreciate video... i’ve been in the market for a used kayak for a while now. I currently have an old Hobie Quest 13 and it’s been awesome and is a quality yak. I beat the crap out of it several times a week so now, I’m looking at a pedal type for hands free fishing and have considered the Pelican. Thanks for the info. Btw Go Army Beat Navy!
Thanks for the honest review and helpful information. I am on my second Pelican hydryve and worry every time I go out whether it will get me back. I like the kayak, but the pedal drive is just not durable. Thanks again for your views. I could not agree more with you opinion!
I purchased a used/broken Catch 110 HD II with a sprocket that snapped at the neck. My immediate solution was to replace the Pelican sprockets with Hobie sprockets. The HD II uses set screw masts instead of screw in masts. I think the problem with the masts is using 2 different metals... Never a good idea! This is my upgrade video... th-cam.com/video/F3eLahB-ZNU/w-d-xo.html
@@SlotCityFishingIt worked amazing! Got my catch up to 5mph! I'm a diehard DIYer! I've actually designed my own replacement fins for my Hobie drives that would work for a pelican too. Check it out... th-cam.com/video/BtfIMTbkKxo/w-d-xo.html
Unfortunately the Hobies break all the time to. It's usually user error. People think they can paddle in shallow water with rocks, logs , oyster bars. All drives will break if you drive them in those areas. I'm a hobie owner. They have stacks of them being repaired at my local shop.
Those brash inserts should be stainless you can buy a insert called a helicoil in stainless drill out the brass hand tap it to a helicoil go to any engineering supply and buy a couple helicoils cheap probably a dollar or two each if you go to your local mechanic he will be able to fix it or tractor repair shop as they use helicoils all the time when threaded parts are stripped looks under designed for the stress .look at solarking lithium batteries also . I am From Australia .
I would do that if I had the skill and time. I just bought a mirage drive and it works much much better. Thanks for the input and hope you subscribed there’s a lot of new content on the channel. Check it out!
2020 110Hd pelican. Owned it for a month. 2 Drives broken and rudder line broke. Garbage. If you own a pelican, get rid of it save the money and buy ANYTHING else, lol “Hobie”. Great video.
Dude, when you want to show stuff and explain things then please don't show your face the entire time. What's with that? I thought you want to demonstrate something about this kayak and drive. Annoying.
@@SlotCityFishing And a human being is disqualified from intelligent and thought provoking comments if one does not have a youtube channel or videos? Are you stupid? YOu shoudl be thankful others critically comment on your content so you can improve. Take it or leave it, but your point is ridiculous. Its as stupid as if I said you were disqualified to talk to me because you do not have investment banking and professional trading experience. Good Grieve.
Buyer beware: The shell isn't bad, stable enough, comfy; I've caught a ton of fish in the this boat. After only 70 miles (6 months) the set screw that holds the rudder cable has chewed through the cable ($40 replacement from Canada took a month,) go get 1/16" stainless steel cable from your hardware store. Now the Hydryve (direct copy from Hobie) has failed, the idler cable snapped. No replacement from Pelican except a complete "core" replacement ($369 BUT isn't available for purchase from Pelican or any retailer....which pelican site directs you to "find a retailer.") Pelican will sell you a complete Hydryve replacment for $550 (which I assume will take another month to get)....have contacted Pelican countless times in the past month, no reply. Take your money and the money you will have to spend and buy a Hobie or AT LEAST plan to buy a Hobie Mirage drive (parts are inexpensive,readily available, and fast to get,) fits right in the Pelican chassis.
UPDATE! Pelican sent out the hydryve II. We will make a review on the new drive after some testing. Contact Pelican via their warranty page on their website and they should send you one as well.
I'm a bit confused that you said the parts are not interchangeable yet you bought the Hobie Drive to replace the Hydryve drive?
@@danielrice5474 the individual parts don’t fit the pelican drive but the whole hobie drive will ft the pelican kayak in replacement of the whole pelican drive
@@ijtmotaGood information to know. Thanks!
So how's the Hydryve II? Any issues?
Did you ever make a video on the hydryve ll? Btw love the video and appreciate the honesty.
Another upload!! This review will help me since I want a new kayak, thanks Jesse!!
Bold City Fishing you’re very welcome broseph.
Thanks for the update. My British mum used to say, "Penny Wise, Pound Foolish"; buy quality.
That’s a cool sayin!
*Very well-made, stable, comfortable **enjoyable.fishing** recommend love that everything fits in bag. Easy to paddle for single person as well, however might be too heavy to carry by one.*
Are you advertising another yak? Lol
Thanks for this video. Planning on getting into kayak fishing this spring and being on a budget I was looking at this kayak
I wouldn’t recommend it man. Save up and get something better bro.
@@SlotCityFishing what would you recommend I was also looking into purchasing this kayak
Ive only had mine for a week so far but ive been removing the drive before entering any high weeds or shallow water. I have no expectations for it to survive being slammed into the bottom of the lake.
The new ones are much better I don’t see you having problems hopefully
Great video. I was looking into buying a Nice fairly reasonable priced pedal drive. Saw this Pelican and looked it over. I always check reviews and Glad i do. Nice looking kayak, too bad it comes with issues like this. My buddy just brought the Vibe Makanna 100 and same deal, every time hwe hit the water within a hour or so the plastic gears round off. Thanks for the video, It saved me time, money and headache
Sad that companies are ok with putting out these sub par products. It really is a safety issue also.
I own the hdii drive and 130 kayak and I love it the new build quality is great. And I take it offshore the most including surf launching. I am on the west coast
Nice man you still take that yak offshore I’m in the fence about it
@@SlotCityFishing no I’ve moved on twice now and I now have a hobie outback but the catch 130 is decent for the price
thanks for the knowledge..I was looking at buying one of these used..it comes with 2 drives now i know why...!!!
Exactly lol
@@SlotCityFishing found a nice jackson coosa fd for 1500.00 i'm getting it..!!!
Outstanding. Integrity is priceless Jesse. You're now worth quite a lot to lots of people. I believe Diogenes would stop at your door my friend.
David Osband I had to look up who Diogenes was haha. Thanks
@@SlotCityFishing Ach....I'm dealing with a heathen....
I just bought a new 110 Hydrive. Have fished with an old Ocean kayak for 20 years. But at 85 my right shoulder is in bad shape. They included an extra set of fin rods. Have used it once so far with good results. Hoping the new drive is better.
It is better but still makes a ton of noise. I wouldn’t recommend it anymore there’s much better stuff for the same price or leads hope you are subscribed there’s a lot of great new content
They have upgraded the drive system and I have not had an issue since then.
They are still noisey and I hate them lol
Overly negative review. I have a buddy who owns a pelican, and when his drive broke they sent the HD II.... not the old version of the drive. Furthermore, Hobie has its own problems: the drive well being integral to the body of the entire Kayak = Stress fractures, leaking hull. The pelican has a replaceable drive well.
I plan on getting the pelican catch 130 after seeing the layout. The open fishing platform is superior, the price is right, and pelican takes care of its customers, something else I’ve heard otherwise about Hobie......
Since you seem to be comparing the two.
Pelican, much better bang for the buck IMO, especially as they’re upgrading the drive and taking care of their customers!
We have owned 2 of these yaks for over a year and have owned 5 hobies. I hope your experience is better than ours. There are new hobies and used hobies that aren’t much more expensive. I stand behind my review and suggest you get something else. Tight lines brother.
Best warrenty on the. Market! "Pelican", thank you for you for your insight!
No worries bro!
Great video, helps others to decide on which pedal kayak to buy.thanks mate.
Thank you bro!
In Canada they want 2300 for that kayak. Thanks for letting me know.
Yea man no problem
Thanks bro , I was thinking of getting me one. I guess I will stick it out with my seaghost 130.
Yea man stick it out. Check out liberty kayaks or vibe shearwater.
Just had my drive break 2 weeks ago and 2 days ago the new upgraded drive was delivered to me... I think Pelican us just sending the new ones now
Yea they will I still don’t like them
I know this an old video, but I have a fix for the old HyDryve. I have fixed tons of these and suggest that others do it when they first purchase them. You save alot of money, time and frustration. I apply epoxy loc tite, tork it down, Then drill a hole through the housing and through the center of the bolt (side) holding the flipper to the assembly and stick a cotter pin in it. Others have used a screw ( drilling the hole then tapping it out ). Any way I hope this helps someone, I charge 50 dollars to do it. So you are saving yourself at least that much doing it yourself.
Great solution
I've had mine about 3 years now. I had one of the old drives break just last year. Called Hobie they sent me out the HD drive second gen 2 version. Did not have any trouble out of it. But a friend of mine destroyed his Hobie. So I bought his Hobie drive with the turbo fans 180...$350... And it is 10 times better than the pelican drive. I still love the 130 because it's lightweight you could throw it over your shoulder and climb over a fence if you had to. My buddies out back he could not load it unload it without help. To me that's a big difference. Although the 130 is not stable enough for a big guy like myself to stand. In his Hobie you could do somersault in. I still love my 130. I have had the feel free Dorado. Awesome awesome kayak! But it weighs a ton. Recently sold it and bought the three water 108. It's also a beast kind of like the Dorado? So I find myself using the pelican 130 more than anything! Great video I'm sure it's helped a lot of people!
Thanks for the kind words! Does your drive squeak when using it?
@@SlotCityFishing the HD2 does not. My Hobie drive makes a little bit more noise but it's a lot faster and just feels like it's a lot more rugged! Luckily I had a great experience with customer service! And luckily my first drive the original lasted so long. But a big difference between the Gen 1 and the Gen 2 HD. But still no comparison to the Hobie!
Thanks a lot man. I almost purchased this kayak until I saw this.
Good deal
Good review. To all the potential new kayak anglers and/or paddle anglers looking for a pedal kayak, demo all brands to see what you like. In regards to fin style kayaks, Hobie set the standard. It seems like these other companies are trying to make the market more affordable and competitive, but fail to put out a quality product. Maybe Vibe or Lightning Strike has got it right, but can’t go wrong with a Hobie, if you know kayak fishing is going to be long term hobby for you then buy a Hobie.
Angelo Ballesteros agreed.
Even more so now. The Hobie Passport 12.0 has the kick up mirage drive, is very stable, and is a good fishing platform. Coming in at 1600-1700 dollars it is a great buy.
Please do an update after using the HyDryve drive unit.
The new one is better…. But still a noisey mess I wouldn’t recommend it
I have the catch 110 hd 2 no complaints
That’s great news
So there is nothing wrong with the drive anymore?
@@kayacanadagr233 still going strong!
@@frankw2328 thanks man I am the new kayaker and will start the trip from this year. So I think I will buy a 110hd for the beginning. Thanks for your reply.
@@frankw2328how about current 2024? Ever have any issues?
Doug Phair
0 seconds ago
Hi I just bought a HD 130 and I set it up But the cord that you pull to rais and lower the Rudder will not work I can pull it but it will nor move. if I am 2 ft. from the rudder I can move it up and down but very hard. The lines are not twister Help Thanks Doug
I’d reach out to pelican.
Nothing wrong with paddling but its def a bummer when u plan to pedal all day.. Gotta keep an open mind, ive broke 2 Hobie drives the same way, didnt hit nothing either, I hate that flipper style drive, the Prop style drives are better!! Just a fyi to ppl looking to buy a pedal drive kayak, I just wanted to say IF your drive breaks while ur on the water dont let it ruin your day, paddling a kayak isnt that bad at all. And I know pros that kayak fish and refuse to use pedal drives or motors on there kayaks. I rarely use my drive I like to paddle on the lakes a lot. If u wanna add something to ur kayak that will actually help u fish bettter Id suggest a power pole system. Way more important and helpful than a pedal drive or motor. If your a bass angler that is.... Great vid bro love the honesty!
I use to have a pro angler with a power pole and all the gadgets I regret selling it
you earned my like sub and bell. saved me $1k today. Thank you for your honest review. time to watch more of your videos and decide what yak im buying.
Awesome glad it helped!!!
I've always thought the "flipper" type drives look fragile and prone to failure. If i spring for a pedal kayak, I will look for one that uses the propeller.
What did you end up getting d?
@@SlotCityFishing Haven't yet. I fell off a ladder> multiple fractures and still recovering. Any suggestions?
Any seat for a 5 years kid, infront ? I have the pelikan hidrive II 110
I don’t know man but be safe!
great info...was thinking about getting one of these but not now
Yea I wouldn’t recommend itb
@@SlotCityFishing Ended up just going with the oldschool catch 120
Great review! Where did you get the little trolling motor with hydryve cassette you held up in this video? I thought you said “dan strong outdoors” but I can’t seem to find any info searching that. Thanks
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Hey man have you considered going in my Hobie drive
Yep
Thanks for an honest review bro. I'll be sure to stay away from those . I already have a cheap paddle yak, don't need another 😉
Curtis Blair they aren’t bad other than the drive.
i mean from what i saw from that example I mean your really running it onto thick grass wont that still put a lot of stress even on a "high grade plastic"? its not metal so it'll definitely break. speaking of which they should just make it out of carbon fiber which is as light as plastic and almost as tough as steel!
My point was a hobie drive would not break during the same use
Appreciate video... i’ve been in the market for a used kayak for a while now. I currently have an old Hobie Quest 13 and it’s been awesome and is a quality yak. I beat the crap out of it several times a week so now, I’m looking at a pedal type for hands free fishing and have considered the Pelican. Thanks for the info. Btw Go Army Beat Navy!
Joel reynolds yikes man. Hooyah navy all the way.
Maybe tap for stainless thread insert.
You probably could
Oh yeah, I’ve had Hobie drives break on me before to but not as bad as these.
Yea not a fan
I'm glad you have that kind of $ but the majority of us don't! That may be hard for to believe,but it's True!!
Bro if you knew me I started from the bottom I get it
Hey brother thank you for the review, I was looking at this kayak and was fixing to purchase it. After this review, I decided against it.
Good call check out our new videos bro I think you’ll like them
Can't you just JBweld the screw into the thread?
No the whole assembly is not good. Thanks for watching! Hope you subscribed
Thanks for the honest review and helpful information. I am on my second Pelican hydryve and worry every time I go out whether it will get me back. I like the kayak, but the pedal drive is just not durable. Thanks again for your views. I could not agree more with you opinion!
Eric Barchiesi yea hopefully pelican will see this vid and help us all out.
Yo I'm pretty sure you can fix your current drive with a helicoil, it'll be stronger than from the factory.
@@neg8098 that POS is years gone bro
I purchased a used/broken Catch 110 HD II with a sprocket that snapped at the neck.
My immediate solution was to replace the Pelican sprockets with Hobie sprockets.
The HD II uses set screw masts instead of screw in masts. I think the problem with the masts is using 2 different metals... Never a good idea!
This is my upgrade video...
th-cam.com/video/F3eLahB-ZNU/w-d-xo.html
Nice dud how’d it work out?
@@SlotCityFishingIt worked amazing! Got my catch up to 5mph!
I'm a diehard DIYer! I've actually designed my own replacement fins for my Hobie drives that would work for a pelican too.
Check it out...
th-cam.com/video/BtfIMTbkKxo/w-d-xo.html
Very cool bro
Unfortunately the Hobies break all the time to. It's usually user error. People think they can paddle in shallow water with rocks, logs , oyster bars. All drives will break if you drive them in those areas. I'm a hobie owner. They have stacks of them being repaired at my local shop.
I’ve never damaged a hobie and abused it!
😂 No they don’t. I’ve had 3 Hobie drives since 2011, and I’ve never had one break. They rarely break.
Those brash inserts should be stainless you can buy a insert called a helicoil in stainless drill out the brass hand tap it to a helicoil go to any engineering supply and buy a couple helicoils cheap probably a dollar or two each if you go to your local mechanic he will be able to fix it or tractor repair shop as they use helicoils all the time when threaded parts are stripped looks under designed for the stress .look at solarking lithium batteries also . I am From Australia .
I would do that if I had the skill and time. I just bought a mirage drive and it works much much better. Thanks for the input and hope you subscribed there’s a lot of new content on the channel. Check it out!
2020 110Hd pelican. Owned it for a month. 2 Drives broken and rudder line broke. Garbage. If you own a pelican, get rid of it save the money and buy ANYTHING else, lol “Hobie”. Great video.
Deadmahi that’s pretty much my experience as well
Dude probably over torqued the screws
What dude? I’ve had 3 of these break on me now.
Just keep saving and buy a hobie
Agreed!
Wow
Yep.
Dude, when you want to show stuff and explain things then please don't show your face the entire time. What's with that? I thought you want to demonstrate something about this kayak and drive. Annoying.
I checked your channel for a proper demonstration of how a review video should be done... but you have no videos, views, or subscribers? Annoying.
@@SlotCityFishing And a human being is disqualified from intelligent and thought provoking comments if one does not have a youtube channel or videos? Are you stupid? YOu shoudl be thankful others critically comment on your content so you can improve. Take it or leave it, but your point is ridiculous. Its as stupid as if I said you were disqualified to talk to me because you do not have investment banking and professional trading experience. Good Grieve.
Buyer beware:
The shell isn't bad, stable enough, comfy; I've caught a ton of fish in the this boat. After only 70 miles (6 months) the set screw that holds the rudder cable has chewed through the cable ($40 replacement from Canada took a month,) go get 1/16" stainless steel cable from your hardware store. Now the Hydryve (direct copy from Hobie) has failed, the idler cable snapped. No replacement from Pelican except a complete "core" replacement ($369 BUT isn't available for purchase from Pelican or any retailer....which pelican site directs you to "find a retailer.") Pelican will sell you a complete Hydryve replacment for $550 (which I assume will take another month to get)....have contacted Pelican countless times in the past month, no reply. Take your money and the money you will have to spend and buy a Hobie or AT LEAST plan to buy a Hobie Mirage drive (parts are inexpensive,readily available, and fast to get,) fits right in the Pelican chassis.
Yep
Appreciate the valuable information on the hy drive issues, i wont be buying that kayak
Yea man hard pass on these
Just a thought ...maybe show the boat that you're talking about instead of your face.
Thanks for the tip I’ll work on it.