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WARFRAME - On a long enough time line, the Tenno will DIE.

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2020
  • So... There are consequences in this game after all. Personally, I no longer see a way that the tenno will be safe. It's like a cancer that's been introduced to the body that will fester and metastasize into something far more dangerous as time passes. And we're powerless to do a thing about it.
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  • @TheDsIEGE
    @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    "If you can make god bleed, then people will cease to believe in him"...

    • @gionharis13
      @gionharis13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or cut it to 7.
      Since you've seen it beating and touches that drive thru Void...
      I wonder...
      Swazdo-lah Surah

    • @entertheunknown3554
      @entertheunknown3554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean, the Norse god could bleed, and they stayed prominent, soooo.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Until they weren't, of course...

    • @entertheunknown3554
      @entertheunknown3554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheDsIEGE there still worshiped today, one of my friends believes in, Odanism (I think that's what its called)

    • @Dariel77Angel
      @Dariel77Angel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If it bleeds, we can cheese it!

  • @walflower3058
    @walflower3058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    “My mother was a cynical woman. Smart as she was cruel.” -Nora Night
    “Notice my collar did you? A-not-so-gentle reminder from dearest mother.” -Entrati Son
    “When my tired ol’ grandma didn’t have time for my nonsense, Nihil was the bogeyman she said was gonna put Nora in a bottle.” -Nora Night
    “You’d do well to listen to my Grandmother from time to time. Oh, she was never a soldier or a scientist. Sometimes I think that freedom from stricture is what makes her the most intellectually nimble of us all. -Entrati Son
    Nora Night knows the Orokin word for law. Her story of a well behaved Grineer, The Wolf of Saturn Six, in prison then brakes out like a savage as if staying on the wardens side was all part of his plan.
    The next event was the infested, something that can harness someone’s image they had absorbed like Arlo. I think this happened a very long time ago and the Zeilot was a byproduct of the imposter Arlo. It can affect one’s mind before their voice is lost if they are not immune.
    Now this person, who has been imprisoned knows how to make cephalons but Nihil has been set free.

  • @seabass8193
    @seabass8193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    I feel like Nora's gonna die, like the 4th episode really seems like hes going to glass her. Also we got her ship that "pays homage to... Nora Night" as if where paying respect to someone who's no longer with us

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      That's a good catch! You could be right. Damn, I never thought of that, good job!

    • @shadowdragonx07
      @shadowdragonx07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      dude the 4th glass waves done alrdy...chur refering tuu glass wave 5

    • @MrShadowluigi2
      @MrShadowluigi2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk, I feel like there’s still a lot we don’t know about her yet.

    • @NotSaddamHussein
      @NotSaddamHussein 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nora will be fine. Otherwise, why would DE bother with so many liens of dialogue when you use her air support? when only the people that got the landing craft will hear it? if she would die, it would be waste of time and resources just for "few" people.
      Nora is gonna be okay in the end.

    • @KitKatHexe
      @KitKatHexe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NotSaddamHussein it's not really as few people as you think, it's not that hard to grind out the nightwave standing to get to rank 30, I went from rank 2 to rank 30 in about 3 weeks of only working at it for about an hour or 2 every 3 days, so long as you're far long enough in the nightwave season to the point where there's been enough challenges that season to get to rank 30, you can just endlessly grind out the weeklys and then the recovered weeklys until you get to 30

  • @NotSaddamHussein
    @NotSaddamHussein 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    So specters can overwhelm a warframe. buggers. Well, as an old friend once said, i believe its time for.... *old war style*
    E X T E R M I N A T U S

    • @peanutmadcow416
      @peanutmadcow416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      You can overwhelm my frame but can you overwhelm my...NECRAMECH

  • @edwinsandra5904
    @edwinsandra5904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    People who do hella long endurance runs: BRING IT OOOOOOONNNNNNNN!!!!!!!

  • @icedspirit3613
    @icedspirit3613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Warframes that will probably be able to defeat millions of specters:
    Nuke Sayrn
    Trinity Prime
    Mag Prime (if you know what your doing)
    Nyx Prime (if you have a high IQ)
    Mesa Prime

    • @un_legendary2848
      @un_legendary2848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I’ll go with mag cause I ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO MAG
      mesa’s boring IMO
      I have too low IQ for nyx

    • @jackalsandwolves3693
      @jackalsandwolves3693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well octavia certainly could do some harm, and rock out at the same time.

    • @Jaque671
      @Jaque671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Excal, any melee, atlas, chroma, equinox, protea, octavia, nidus, mirage, limbo, ivara, baruuk, ash, gara, nova, valkyr and wukong.. yeah theres no danger to the tenno at all

    • @un_legendary2848
      @un_legendary2848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No No
      Me being a limbo main: HOW ABOUT
      B I M B O

    • @icedspirit3613
      @icedspirit3613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No No Ivara is literally a stealth frame I don’t think she can handle that much pressure 😅

  • @d9507
    @d9507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    specter lots of them: we going defeat you
    Me: *with frame,op gears,9999999 energy plzza and the disc can capture them with my specters,kuva lich cant die*
    Ha

  • @FreelancerND
    @FreelancerND 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    [SPOILER] Well, shoot. In the end, Nihil is just another boss fight like Octavia's Anthem, not a hard one. Nora is alive, although we get to see her face, which is nice. Oh, and Nihil is now bottled and serves as a decoration for an orbiter

    • @zaide5897
      @zaide5897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I put him hanging on the ceiling

  • @abdullahalzou3bi851
    @abdullahalzou3bi851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    hmmmm I think that glass guy is grandfather of the family because when GRANFATHER disappeared he left a glass shard for mother

    • @Crimsonnavyking
      @Crimsonnavyking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Grandfather is likely Albrecht not glassmaker, the shards we get from the family are said to be from a larger apparatus, likely the Seriglass "bell" he used in the lore, which was shattered when he discovered the void.

  • @zachlorsen6494
    @zachlorsen6494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Theory Time! Eidolons and Kuva Liches? What do they have in common? Kuva. Eidolons are descended broken remains of an orignal giant eidolon whom charged the unum for what was inside, kuva! Kuva liches are what results when a dead grineer is given it! The Eidolon wanted kuva so they could reproduce, Grineer want it for immortality. Does that mean that when war comes the grineer are the first target? Would explain why in the trailer they attacked earth first. Would that mean in the case the heart is attacked and the tenno become powerless the only line of defense would be grineer? Wouldn't be better to convert a full fledged fleet of Kuva liches? It wouldn't matter since when the war comes there will be a common enemy. The Corpus and Sentient vs Grineer and Tenno. In order to ensure success though how would we get the corpus on our side? Parvos Granum's new table, whom may be allied with the Glassmaker! Make as many allies than enemies!

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Oh damn... I think you might be on to something here my friend!

    • @soildersniper
      @soildersniper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wait wasnt the grineer originally designed by the orokin in the first place to fight agaisnt the sentient. With the fall of the orokin empire, the grineer fell into disarray and has become a rogue faction with the kuva queen trying to replace the orokin.

    • @dr.calibrations7984
      @dr.calibrations7984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Never though I'd die alongside a grineer."
      "Clem! Clem! Grataka!"
      "Aye, I can do that."

  • @codycross4582
    @codycross4582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Btw the image we see in that pillar at the last part of night wave is the top of nahils head, if you look at the newest picture of him shown in this weeks dev stream it becomes much easier to see

  • @ShivaServer2009
    @ShivaServer2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Very interesting. I can't see the Tenno ending. That would be the end of Warframe and I'm sure they wouldn't do that. However, a large scale invasion would be interesting. Some sort of live event spawn like what TERA has done in the past with enemies spawning in towns, cities, etc. Have to defeat them to restore order. I'm not max rank with the Entrati yet, but the only thing that bugs me in my interactions with that family is how often Father massages that missing arm. It just bugs me.

  • @Hunted102
    @Hunted102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think Nihils ideas of order are quite easily toppled when you incorporate the idea that nothing sentient is orderly thus making him an un-orderly being like the ones he glassed, stating this would probably crumble his ego.
    I guess what I’m saying is: maybe we could defeat Nihil by breaking his code and ego with word instead of weapon

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's true and you're right but... understand that is the nature of the orokin. Order for thee but not for me. I do as I please. Elitists, in the most apt sense, so his... code? probably wouldn't be too solid if it applied to him in a negative way...

    • @voyagerwitch
      @voyagerwitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheDsIEGE yeah, the only proper response to the machinations of the elite is demonstrated pretty elegantly by grendel in his leverian entry.

    • @heyj64
      @heyj64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or we could just throw pieces of jagged glass at his face, yeah let's go with that

  • @ammyrylee8448
    @ammyrylee8448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dont do that, I've not played warframe long, my Tenno cant get killed off. But it is something to think about. Great video

  • @johnmivule-novabow8143
    @johnmivule-novabow8143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Thank you for all the lore you've covered for this game. YOU ARE AMAZING
    I haven't touched this game for like a month, might comeback for the NaHil Nightwave Boss then leave

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's not a bad idea. deimos, in my opinion, isn't too fun, lol...

    • @johnmivule-novabow8143
      @johnmivule-novabow8143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheDsIEGE yeah lol I saw it, tried it for a bit like 2 weeks, saw the INCOMING nerd videos for helminth, then I left lol I was like Nah maybe later

    • @skywoofyt5375
      @skywoofyt5375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnmivule-novabow8143 Most of the open worlds are boring lol

    • @johnmivule-novabow8143
      @johnmivule-novabow8143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skywoofyt5375 yeah, they get boring fast lol, don't even see them when I'm zooming to my daily quest

    • @skywoofyt5375
      @skywoofyt5375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnmivule-novabow8143 Yeah like, when they announce a new open world I just zoom in, do the quest, then leave, I do not touch them ever again unless I need a material from them 😂

  • @lozm4835
    @lozm4835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "From brooding gulfs are we beheld, by that which bears no name. Its heralds are *the stars it fells*, the earth and sky aflame."
    "But what to call this *star which fell from the heavens* to help us?" "Ayatan"
    "Transported this *Duviri* once, got talkin’. Told me about the… this… what-whatsit? *'Nominative determinism’*. What you get named steers how you turn out."
    You want to talk about time running out? Like it or not, the Entrati may have just sealed our fate to the Requiem prophecy, a prophecy we're easily two stanzas into by now, and which ends as we began. Say, doesn't the Duviri Paradox wind up with us going back into the void, towards the Zariman?

  • @senkujo
    @senkujo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    THIS THE EARLIEST IVE BEEN! HI SIEGE! I LOVE YOUR CONTENT! THE LORE AND EVERYTHING IS SO FUN! YOU DO IT VERY WELL!

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you!!! I'm glad you like it. This one was a video I just had to put out...

  • @h.lpzc.4304
    @h.lpzc.4304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    4:34 i swear that bug just happened to me recently, i can send you the Screenshots if you want.
    9:18 "MESA get the xoris, we got some real Business this time"
    I am curious about what secret the Entrati have that Parvos was talking about in his recording, does he know about the man in the wall? Does he know what the heart is? How much does he know about the orokin in general? (Well he knew to much either way wich is why warframe kill teams have been sent after him)
    But i really hope we get to see more Parvos, he might be a new villain but one that left an impression on you after a quest.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think everyone that's studied the void or interacted with it of any significance knows of the man in the wall. And I think we've only seen the beginning of Parvos Granum, and the entrati will no doubt have some kind of run in, maybe not in a cinematic but lore wise, I'm certain. Time will really tell on how that all evolves... as far as that bug goes, it doesn't surprise me... I think it might be getting ready to show up for real in game...

    • @swordkingx4874
      @swordkingx4874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      for Orb Mother,
      I found a place were it can be fought.
      it's an area in the orb valley with a city like fortuna.

    • @darvonmitsumura536
      @darvonmitsumura536 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've actually had a Rabbleback Hyena spawn into Fortuna once after a mission. I took some terrible quality vids of it just because I was astounded at seeing it just roaming around the entrance to the backroom. After a little bit of time, it freaked out and started attacking my cat. xD

  • @GTurner2K
    @GTurner2K 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ive literally been waiting for this. I searched it today actually.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wasn't sure if I should wait til tomorrow to post it, but I thought... I've made you all wait long enough, lol... I hope you enjoy it!

  • @SAWFD1413
    @SAWFD1413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this may not have been said by anyone but after the forth segment of glassmaker was done, there was about a week before HoD launched & after said launch of HoD, Nora seemed to appear like her coms signal was covered in static, which is unusual but may hint at her getting glassed seeing as multiple people are seeing it(the static filter). this also maybe why glass 5 is taking so long, because it might not be an investigation but instead something more complex.

  • @joshuaronhovde8649
    @joshuaronhovde8649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man so good to see you upload. Great video as always

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I'm glad you took the time to check the vid out, even with my absence!

  • @logical-tea1565
    @logical-tea1565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    4:35
    I believe it’s a bug. It happened couple of days ago to a friend of mine, and he even showed pictures.
    I don’t think DE are the kind of developers that’d bring an ambiguous bug-like feature and unofficially consider it a feature. Solely based on the fact that their reputation of how buggy their updates are on release.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could be right but... I guess we'll just have to see...

    • @Nicolai-Syn
      @Nicolai-Syn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A friend of mine had it happen to him too, he sent me pictures as well.

  • @phantomasuras
    @phantomasuras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man you always manage to lift up my interest in Warframe.

  • @maikosegue2298
    @maikosegue2298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "The tenno will die"
    Me: I see you've chosen death
    Slaps every acricon riven exist in the game*

  • @dreamlessking9
    @dreamlessking9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you your the best warframe channel

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry for the absence... But I'm back! And thank you!!!

  • @Pato-tl7ns
    @Pato-tl7ns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the 5th episode is out and nihil is now in a bottle in our orbiter

  • @sakekage
    @sakekage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Actually a big question for me was raised by the Heart of Deimos revelation. Does the limitation imposed by the Heart still apply to a Tenno who has strengthened their void connection post War Within? Because even if that door closes, it's not as if the void itself ceases to exist. I think the bigger problem is that the Solar Rails would cease to exist, and that is a system wide problem that all factions would face.
    Everyone uses the Solar Rails. The only "faction" that doesn't? The Infestation. Without the ability to easily hop from planet to planet, suddenly all those isolated settlements are sitting ducks, putting the Infestation is at a massive tactical advantage in the ongoing conflict. If the heart suddenly failed again, I predict a massive surge in Infestation activity, every far flung sector would be consumed and destroyed if they were unable to defend themselves.
    Infestation invasions crop up from time to time, presumably without the need for solar rails, just look at Plaguestar. For those who survive the loss of the Heart, it would be a slow grind to a very dark end.
    *edit* Thanks for the heart!!

    • @rafabuda0
      @rafabuda0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't edit hearted comments,you lose the heart

    • @alexbotz8335
      @alexbotz8335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm I never thought the heart was what allowed the Orokin to use their void tech. Makes more sense though

  • @sobrev1viente
    @sobrev1viente 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Heart of Deimos made me think, what if the man in the wall didn't manifest into reality (game's reality) until the heart was built and running, and used it has it's gateway instead of manifesting through the Zariman passangers,?

  • @whiterabbit4113
    @whiterabbit4113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It also makes a sort of sense when you include the cutscene from the duviri paradox and the tenno we see in there not able to use his void powers

  • @hoobakam.3931
    @hoobakam.3931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Esscuse my language....
    But my flucking head is going to explode... I've been thinking about Warframe start to end story since yesterday very very intently.... I even opened a word doc and started piecing it together. Woke up today with it in my head... Like.... It woke me up already in my head..
    This is a story I don't even know how someone conceived. It's amazing. So many clues and so many puzzles. Mind bending warp flucked.
    Seige, your on the right path with so many of your videos, and if you are wrong or were wrong about something, I can't blame you. It's amazing how the story can get shifted off track so slightly...in a big way, and I used to fantasize about what's happening in Warframe, but as the heart of diemos dropped.... Everything is filling in the blanks quite quickly now to where I can get to the point of almost being caught up and is going to happen as long as I don't get a deviation which I won't because I'm following the lore ...follow the lore, not what you want or think will happen.
    The who what where and whys of every step of the way are in so much puzzling detail it's a phenomenon the Warframe team has this ability to make this up like this.
    Did anybody else start this game and remember the graphics and colors, and Vor looked like a stick man? It's progressed so much and so so so glad it did as if this story never got out, it would be a shame. It's going to make an excellent movie one day if done correctly.
    Glad I got the comic when I did. 😁

  • @louguinares6301
    @louguinares6301 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your vids. Please post a vid on who you think grandfather is? Is it nihil, albretched or the man in the wall.....
    I think it Albretcht and the man in the wall is the same person. This is far fetched but Albrecht said "her (mother) eyes looks like her mother (gmother)" which makes me think that his eyes where in a different color such as the red eyes when we get the "hey kiddo" moments in our orbitor

  • @emmmortem
    @emmmortem 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *sees the video title*
    Me, a Tenno: ITS ABOUT DAMN TIME. I’ve been tired of tennos for a while now

  • @brendanshroyer7696
    @brendanshroyer7696 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember that trailer for the Duviri Paradox? I think there might be a connection.

  • @KitKatHexe
    @KitKatHexe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That exploiter orb bug still happens, I literally just got it less than a month ago
    I've also seen Clem show up in fortuna after a Clem clone was spawned in the Orb Vallis
    these glitches with Clem and the explorer orb showing up in fortuna are entirely client side, as in just because you see them doesn't mean other people in the same instance do.
    For instance the aforementioned Clem clone glitch, had happened after I had spawned a Clem clone and me and my friend went back to fortuna and the Clem clone stayed with us on his end but disappeared on mine.
    Frankly the entire idea of using the exploiter or attacking fortuna as any sort of anything for the lore is misguided, seeing as though canonically it is attacked and destroyed on its way to attack fortuna without ever making it to its destination.

  • @lmhirst86
    @lmhirst86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "As far as the last part of Nightwave is concerned, you absolutely now have my erec..." Genuinely made me laugh hard.
    Personally I don't think the heart of Deimos dying will stop the Tenno. It flatlined during the quest, and although our Warframes were weakened by this, technically we should have been shut down. But we kept moving. The heart of Deimos first opened up the door to the void, but when the children of the Zariman returned with those powers, each one of them I believe is capable of opening that door themselves. We don't just have the keys to the door, we are the door. As if our hearts are the same as the heart of Deimos, only smaller, and so our doors are smaller. It could be leading to a new power boost for the Tenno, much like The War Within. What if we have to increase how much of the void we can let through to power our frames and abilities, because the heart does fall. And what would that mean for the Man in the Wall?
    Saying that, DE's only just introduced the Heart of Deimos, and it has a new open world revolving around it, so we're looking at another decade or so before it does. Plenty of time to farm up those Necromechs. I do wonder as well if the heart of Deimos and the finger in the reliquary drive are connected.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't the heart was completely dead then, but... I think you're right. Without the tenno, we don't have a game, so... this is more of a fun what if type video...

    • @alexbotz8335
      @alexbotz8335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As for the Finger in the reliquary drive. The Albrecht Entrati Logs reveal that his void double had it's fingers chopped off when you closed the gate on it's hand

  • @therecklesswarlock6439
    @therecklesswarlock6439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I personally don't like the idea of the heart, we tenno are supposed to be the warped by the void, and we are where are comes from.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate it, and am thinking time travel will be used to fix a broken heart at some point, a plot device I hate even more. That being said, this is what DE put out, so it's what we've got to work with. Thus the theories will continue!!!

    • @TKDMwastaken
      @TKDMwastaken 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well we didnt lose all of our powers. We could still do transference. But our powers were greatly reduced. Like somone cut part of our power suply. We have void powers. But even flame fades without fresh air.

    • @therecklesswarlock6439
      @therecklesswarlock6439 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let me rephrase my comment; I don't like how our tenno is affected by the heart. I can get that if the heart is damaged orokin tech can have their link to the void cut off. But the tenno getting affected is something I cannot accept.

  • @whiski8357
    @whiski8357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Honestly for me in the context of DE, I think the conclusion would be underwhelming in a way... But it's really fun to speculate, I'm just tired of over hyping something and just of getting overwhelmingly underwhelmed...

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh without question. It's gonna be a huge letdown. But... the implications of it last forever if you think about it. If nihil doesn't kill the heart, someone else will...

    • @whiski8357
      @whiski8357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheDsIEGE True, I agree, after the Second dream I thought that the Nursery (Lotus HQ) was the Tenno's only weakness that was taken care of, but now we have this, and the heart is way too big to ignore even if DE forgets it, basically a huge easy target for the likes of Parvos and what remains of the Queens, even the Stalker if he wished it...

    • @allandecastroferreira9359
      @allandecastroferreira9359 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whiski8357 If there's lots of Teenos and they're even 10% strong as in-game, nobody stands a chance against an army of veterans LMAO

    • @bigmemer4398
      @bigmemer4398 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah that's how i feel especially after scarlet spear

    • @alexbotz8335
      @alexbotz8335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whiski8357 isn't Parvis a potential ally? At the end of the quest he basically asks us if he can offer us anything in exchange to assist him. Kinda like Alad V gaining a favor from the tenno

  • @siamesesnow
    @siamesesnow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will be interesting to here your take on the Necraloid backroom lore when you finish ranking up with Entrati/Loid.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That vid is already being researched and written...

  • @Mate397
    @Mate397 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to think DE plans to make a connection between the heart and glassmaker (acknowledgement of lore based events would be nice to happen more often) but I have a feeling it is a case of simple schedule hiccups due to the whole pandemic stuff going on and them working from home.

  • @Xenoxic
    @Xenoxic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m up for some undead tenno action!! What we going for? Skeletons, vampires, curses, magic?? Lets doo this

  • @agopessimist1335
    @agopessimist1335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What were your thoughts on the reveal of the Void fingers in our Railjacks, their origins, and the reveal of the first venture into the Void and the characterization of the Man in the Wall by Albrecht Entrati? Surprised you didn't mention that much about it in this video.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They weren't relevant to this video, but I plan on putting a few videos together in the near future regarding the implications of all the new lore. This stuff... seemed most daunting and fun to write about.

  • @bringbackdislikesbringback1124
    @bringbackdislikesbringback1124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well u gona make a video about the end now?

  • @abdelrhmanhassan2654
    @abdelrhmanhassan2654 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I picked up on the replicate his frequency/himself part of nihil's plan I just thought that he was going to drop like resonance glass bombs cuz of the way glassing has been referred to as a frequency/radio waves so I thought maybe he will highjack Nora's station and broadcast his glass frequency throughout the system or maybe let her broadcast it since he says she will be his voice order and such

  • @andonimenzriv5654
    @andonimenzriv5654 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I do love your videos and very much appreciate there is a content creator like you making all these amazing explanations about a lore that I believe its fantastic in many ways.
    On a side note, I do believe that even if the heart is ever destroyed, the Tenno will find a way to prevail, here is my theory so humor me on this acid trip for a moment:
    We know as mother said that "the heart is what makes the Tenno special" which means its what fuels their void power and technology (at least thats what I understood) but is not what gives them life per se, so even if we lose the power of the void we wouldnt necessarily lose our knowledge and years of combat experience, Teshin and the Dax for instance if im not mistaken, where fearsome warriors but because of their training and strenght in combat mainly, the Tenno have relied on their power for so long that maybe its now time for them to harness their true power, which might be what Teshin wants to teach us, to use our "human" strenght, to not be dependant of the void and use our brains and brawns to fight without the need of the void one day. For instance, we dont really know who the man in the wall is and neither what does he as our doppleganger wants with us when he appear in our Orbiter or hear it on the Railjack, so maybe its time for the Tenno to use their innate strenght and no longer own anything to the void itself.
    Anyways I might be delussional in many aspects but thats the only way I can see the Tenno overcoming their foes in case they lose their Void powers, also we have always remained as kids or teenagers, but what about the cinematic where we see a grown up Tenno using guns and such, what about Jayden Tenno, I kind of see this similar to Peter Pan's story, they never grow up and are virtually invincible with the void (neverland) but once they have to face the real world is up to them and no one else. I want to believe that all the Training Lotus was giving us before eventually unveiling as Natha has to be of some use not only for us as Tenno and Warframe users but as individuals that can be so much more without the Void.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with you. With the heart in the game, the tenno won't ever be safe unless they find another source of power. I'm just not sure one exists, especially with the properties required to power themselves and the frames... Thank you for the compliment, btw!!!

    • @andonimenzriv5654
      @andonimenzriv5654 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheDsIEGE what if they were to go back to primitive means of tech and instead of controlling warframes through mental links they become "warframes" themselves by using suits, something similar to the mechs but far less advanced. If the heart dies doesnt most if not all the current technology dies? I think both the corpus and grineer and even the sentients are dependant on the void themselves, they all harness power from it if I'm not mistaken.

  • @ingussgrantins9720
    @ingussgrantins9720 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This could tie in with the Duviri Paradox as the Tenno on the rail jack loses his warframe and enters it because of the trailer you see your Tenno lose his powers attempting to stop a Dax soldier from killing you and in heart of Deimos you see it getting destroyed but not fully there fore weakening your warframe to the void

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It definitely would work well there...

  • @Primarchswrath
    @Primarchswrath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when the glassmaker boss fight happens i think we will have to fight glass maker using the necramech and protect the heart at the same time ( i think this is a good idea because de showed glassmakers face and a new necramech coming soon. so i think to get the next necramech we'll have to fight glassmaker)

  • @Josephkerr101
    @Josephkerr101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your lore thoughts!

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Glad someone can appreciate the mess of thoughts that ramble through this head, lol...

    • @Josephkerr101
      @Josephkerr101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheDsIEGE Ohh I get occasional thoughts about things like the origin of primes and how its odd zephyr or valkyr got one and the implications of new primes emerging. How many Orokin exist still hidden away dormant. Maybe Nihil is one of many. The new war could consist of far more than we anticipated.

  • @neptune9316
    @neptune9316 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the thing where the exploiter orb appears in fortuna actually happen on cetus too with a tusk thumper

  • @Dololondondon
    @Dololondondon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im craving for a proper bossfight with Nihil, something epic.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You know... I liked the prelate fight and how it was done, and given he's humanoid as well, it would be very cool to have a fight in the same vein. We'll see, but you're right.

  • @tapmcshoe6534
    @tapmcshoe6534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always figured Nihil's plan was to use nightwave to broadcast the "glass resonance", some sort of signal he used to glass people. then he could glass thousands of people at a time whenever they tuned into nightwave

  • @arturotorres5663
    @arturotorres5663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep it up buddy 🤣 i heard what you were going to say 🤣🤣🤣

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WHATEVER DO YOU MEAN, THIS IS WHOLESOME CONT- Ah, who am I kidding, I was at full mast once I was getting threatened by Nihil... Something about a challenge gets the compass pointing north, I don't know...

    • @arturotorres5663
      @arturotorres5663 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's fine buddy maybe you need to just breathe sometimes ty for the heart

  • @ivixr427
    @ivixr427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My theory:
    We have these smaller events happening time to time like the ghouls on Plains, thermia eruptings on Orb Vallis that happened not so far from their update launch. For Cambion Drift, we should have a Nihil-thing.

  • @euclidslayer0941
    @euclidslayer0941 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your content, thank you

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad you enjoy it! Thank you for checking the vid out!

  • @frodeerode7960
    @frodeerode7960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like Nihil will use Nora to broadcast sound to glass everyone. It links to the device in the crime scene, it links to the cephalite resonance as the enemies are turned to glass using resonance, which links to sound. He says Nora will do the same, just broadcast his sound.

  • @andresmouro7565
    @andresmouro7565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I for one think that Nihil and the Entrati won't be connected simply because it's a Nightwave, which up until now, haven't been that connected to our lore. Love your videos man, keep it up!

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're gonna find out real soon, one way or another...

  • @AlIguana
    @AlIguana 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    in the Duvurii Paradox trailer they showed, the railjack cephelon went on about "multiverses breaking down", before throwing the Tenno into Paradox Land.
    When you first meet Loid on Deimos, he says you have to help save the heart "to prevent multiverse collapse". hmmm
    Something is definitely going to happen to the heart. And not Grandmother fiddling with it to bring her family together. Someone is going to destroy it, breaking down reality, throwing the Tenno into some void that they can't (easily) escape.

  • @AtomicR053
    @AtomicR053 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    “On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone reaches zero” -The Narrator, Fight Club

  • @solid2713
    @solid2713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the heart will get the moon treatment

  • @edenengland1883
    @edenengland1883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    doesnt the exploiter orb use all of the animations that the OM used when attacking fortuna?
    deck12 and fortuna are 1:1 copies after all so itd make sense

  • @inkoursor2942
    @inkoursor2942 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    betcha a future quest will end up with us not needing the heart anymore and have operators act as direct conduits for the void

  • @theghosthost2066
    @theghosthost2066 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that deimos is the current lead up to duviri after the heart was and still most likely still damaged so the void might leak into railjack then cause duviri so we can gain more operator powers to combat true enemies of the heart and tenno like natah and the sentient war

  • @plate_fox
    @plate_fox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Considering both lua and the heart are now both in real-space the Tenno now have 2 weaknesses and taking out either will permanently cripple or just outright kill them. Granted the heart is buried under an entire moon if infestation so it’s not exactly easy to get to but there seems to be a portal to the void right behind it so it would probably be possible to *eventually* find that doorway wherever it is in the void and attack through there however finding that one doorway would probably be about as easy as finding a literal doorway floating out somewhere in space

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly... at some point, we lose.

  • @randomaccountwithmusic4206
    @randomaccountwithmusic4206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Consequences? *Laughs in valkyr tallons* Let em come

  • @stacycrews3164
    @stacycrews3164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had this orb mother glitch happen twice in a row tonight, it was very very terrifying

  • @deathknight3252
    @deathknight3252 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Tenno will be just like the Jedi forgotten

  • @ninjaslash52_98
    @ninjaslash52_98 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems I need to catch up quicker if I hope to stay the end

  • @TheCeaptain
    @TheCeaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "first time lore wise we are in danger"
    Laughs in Mesa prime

    • @97Jarjarbinks
      @97Jarjarbinks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats why he said "lore wise"...

    • @TheCeaptain
      @TheCeaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@97Jarjarbinks still lore wise mesa should fair quite well or just go with limbo to another dimention and don t deal with anything ever

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not if her warframe loses all it's power. That would go for every frame. None of their abilities would work, leaving them all husks.

  • @mbtproduct
    @mbtproduct 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If we are to die then I'm taking as many of them as I can with me

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll drink to that!

  • @barateza16
    @barateza16 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's bold... and I like it.

  • @Cosmodjinn
    @Cosmodjinn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the transmitter is actually intended to transmit the crystallization signal, bringing order to everything at once. More grand than sending a few spectres.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But could be used for the same purpose, maybe even by someone else should Nihil fall. The problem the device presents is far greater than just it's initial pull, if you ask me...

    • @MissBabyForte
      @MissBabyForte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thoughts exactly or just drop a wave bomb on Fortuna or even Cetus wipe out a population and create fear across the origin system.

  • @mobius-q873
    @mobius-q873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Revenat: Every boss they add I can one shot
    Volt : will taser you
    Gara: you who took my back scratcher
    Glass maker: shit

  • @lostsoul7345
    @lostsoul7345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also Cutter was only gathering intel on Vox solaris for the corpus not Nihil.

  • @un_legendary2848
    @un_legendary2848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi
    1 let me guess your using umbra cause of his lore in the sacrifice ight
    It's a good idea to make the reference
    2 continue the lore vids because there fun and because I don't know lore its confusing and I don't want to waste plat on someone to teach me the lore and yes I ONCE DID THAT
    3 thanks for the lore and the content

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1. Yes! 2. I will and you need never pay me in plat! 3. You're welcome, thanks for visiting the channel!

    • @un_legendary2848
      @un_legendary2848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheDsIEGE
      I realize you do movie quotes in some vids to

  • @Krain420
    @Krain420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it might end far worse than that. Parvos knows quite a bit about the secrets that the Entrati have hidden and has done experiments that lead to the creation of spectres; so he knows how to defeat them. Which also means he knows about Albrecht's encounter with MiW. So in order to stop Nihil he will tear down the barriers of our mind unleashing the full power of the void against him. As a consequence the wall between worlds falls and MiW will now be able to cross over into our reality.

  • @spicyprovolone4986
    @spicyprovolone4986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought it was Samuel Hayden on the thumbnail omg

  • @cybernomad5971
    @cybernomad5971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feel free to correct me on this one let me throw a two cent theory in. The Oro that Tenno have is connected to the void as I understand it and therefore would act as a window to the void. The Heart of Demios on the other hand is a full on door allowing void energy through. If the heart was destroyed I think it's possible that the tenno could still have access to the void only at a greatly reduced rate and would probably have to learn how.
    As for If and when the Tenno die. While technically yes they have functional immortality through oro it's not perfect. Remember Rell, he was essentially fighting the Man in the wall for as long as the rest of us were in cryosleep (at least) but he essentially died whether through him being in a permanent transference loop, from the man in the wall taking his power away (unlikely giving how long they were fighting) or the source of his immortality reached the upper limits of what it could achieve. In essence the greater the stresses put on a Tenno over time could effectively wear away at the Tenno's 'immortality'.
    No idea if this makes sense or if i'm just rambling but there you go.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a good theory because we don't know much about how the heart works, we were only told what it does. I think we're gonna need more story to say for certain, but I'd say for now... this theory is as good as any others out there.

  • @fjortonde1889
    @fjortonde1889 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stalker should go for the heart now. He fucked up last time and now he can fix that

  • @rokosbasilisk5376
    @rokosbasilisk5376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know the name of that background music?

  • @idkidc7513
    @idkidc7513 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bold of you to assume that DE will take the risk of putting more effort

  • @flow0740
    @flow0740 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are u going to do an overview when the glassmaker is over

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll definitely be doing another video on it when it's complete.

  • @teak6706
    @teak6706 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why you gatta do me like this

  • @thimovijfschaft3271
    @thimovijfschaft3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    About the Exploiter Orb bug on Fortuna... Have you done the Exploiter Orb fight at deck 12 yet?

  • @rhizonhaze5597
    @rhizonhaze5597 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol I can't wait to get my Ps5 so I can dive back into warframe. I'm pretty shocked at the concept that my immortal tenno may not live forever so I need to beef up my already overpowering arsenal of frames and weapons to change that lol. Also need to get a lich. I usually vanquish my cliches as I haven't found one I actually liked, whether it's the design, name, voice etc.

  • @tellmeninetails5819
    @tellmeninetails5819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Nahil's just going to glass us. That's what the signal booster was for.
    The heart of Deimos isn't just for the tenno, but for access to the void itself, and for travel to the planet to planet. it's how the rail jack works too. Each rail has a piece of the man in the wall in it to link the station or ship to the void so it can do jumps or make jumps.
    Now, this is important: if you destroy the heart, the granum void WILL be sealed off along with any other tech that utilizes the void, this may include specters.
    And I don't think the tenno will die from it, I think maybe the operators might be pulled into the void, I don't think we'll simply become regular children.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's really the difference tho?

    • @tellmeninetails5819
      @tellmeninetails5819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of us would be kuva filled immortals(depending on one of our choices) and may be able to fight. The duviri paradox trailer suggests we lost our powers but we survived and where able to fight back.

  • @voyagerwitch
    @voyagerwitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "nihil, being orokin, would most likely have full knowledge of the heart-"
    no. the executors, and maybe some archimedians might, but nihil was in, well, the justice system. maintaining order does not require knowing the secrets of the entrati, as granum put it.

  • @japzy76
    @japzy76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the heart fails. Imma go to my boy helminth and ask him for some infested modifications (for the operator) and turn to a semi-warframe to be able to wield those super heavy weapons, With pure void powers. Xaku's gonna be proud.

  • @javariusgaston-role6064
    @javariusgaston-role6064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think a tenno will be able to hold a weapon? Ik their not built for it. But like I at least think they can do a finisher.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They may not have a choice in the end... and the one seemed to handle the tigris pretty well in the duviri trailer. We'll just have to see...

  • @saltybacon6997
    @saltybacon6997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    theres a mimic behind you

  • @insertedgynamehere___969
    @insertedgynamehere___969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To the potential army of specters, BEHOLD my army if kuva liches.
    Now I just need to get that army of kuva liches....😖

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Be so cool to match an army of spectors against our army of liches and frames... EPIC.

    • @insertedgynamehere___969
      @insertedgynamehere___969 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheDsIEGE guess we could add the sisters to that army

  • @shanedaley6236
    @shanedaley6236 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see a big live event or something where we have to be on guard in missions for the end of this season but I think it's going to be a straight forward thing of we stop nihil in time before anyone gets hurt but lore wise yes we are in danger more then we have ever been before other then with the stalker because he actually killed warframe and maybe that ment he also killed sleeping tenno as well we never have been told if all tenno wake up from the second dream like us I would assume some never did

  • @ahorseofcourse7283
    @ahorseofcourse7283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I'm so scared of the boss I'm going to farm constantly to get his sword and then ignore forever after. Could this be the end of the Tenno? Can the mighty Nihil top the terror of that pot-bellied Infested Zealoid thing?

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Won't be long until we find out...

  • @entertheunknown3554
    @entertheunknown3554 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm quaking in umbral boots.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As we all should be.

    • @entertheunknown3554
      @entertheunknown3554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And about the heart, the entrati vaults can't be bypassed with void dash, so I refuse to believe a jacked up radio/weave system could deliver specters directly to the Heart, they would have to go through the tunnels attacked the entire way buy infested, and Grandmother seems able to pull mechs out af the fucking void right to the heart so even if he could get specters in there, they would have to deal with grandma plague's robots

  • @Da0nlyyyydarkskin
    @Da0nlyyyydarkskin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My theory is that nora is lotus's friend i say this because after the lotus got turned nora came out of nowhere so then while lotus was in charge she contacted nora and asked her nora if i disappear i want you to be in charge of the tenno show them honor. Tbh i don't know if this is but to me this is what i think

  • @dsagent
    @dsagent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Honestly with all the jank in this game I would not be surprised if we die and they announce Warframe 2.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Tencent would probably be happy with that announcement, if nothing else...

    • @Arcantropolo
      @Arcantropolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheDsIEGE Sixteen times the detail!

    • @Archy871
      @Archy871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Destiny 2 did this already tho

    • @hoobakam.3931
      @hoobakam.3931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I do have a feeling like this too... But honestly they can do whatever right.. but yeah.. if we do die... And they make a Warframe two, the prime frames haven't come out yet for Warframe one, wouldn't be "fair "to that player base...but whom knows as maybe we won't get all the prime frames for a "certain reason" head exploding now. 🤯🤯🤯🤯

  • @tacticallemon7518
    @tacticallemon7518 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dammit, you’re telling me I have to give a shit about nightwave now?
    Fuck

  • @mexi_nate4270
    @mexi_nate4270 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At this point I want to see what he’ll do to us Tenno. I see this as an opportunity for us to actually fight or maybe kill an actual Orokin, and not those enemies we’re fighting in the void or in fisures mission, or specters from the silver grove. I’m actually looking forward this😈

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, given the model they showed of him... we might be in for some serious shit.

  • @gamerclaycbnsbg
    @gamerclaycbnsbg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone tell you that you sound like Dr. Miller from SCP Foundation?

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I've never heard that. I'll have to check it out though!

  • @ericbrown9825
    @ericbrown9825 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, are you Barely Sociable? You sound almost exactly like him

  • @keisauncarano6693
    @keisauncarano6693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do u think the man in the wall is void energy itself? It could explain how they're the only one able to control the tenno and the lotus.

    • @TheDsIEGE
      @TheDsIEGE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. If you ask me... he is an entity born of interaction with the void, and is a small part of us, which is why they know everything about us and are doppelgangers. Kind of like a piece of our soul given life by the void. But that's my opinion...

  • @rocketboss3606
    @rocketboss3606 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    if u could get an enemy into the elevator it is brought with u i think, raknoids, animals, the corpus, all of em could be BUGGED in, moreover i beleve the tenno are sorta mini hearts due to them being between the void and realspace. BUT the biggest thing of all is oro (yea that thing from the conclave), Oro bacically is a save state, its how the tenno in kid form can die so much and the only way to perma kill something with oro is for another oro to annihilate it (a life for a life). its why the orokin could not be killed by any old shmuk, only the tenno had oro other than the orokin.