When the windchime decoration was added, they were silent. I pointed out that this was a huge miss because the entire point of windchimes is to make sound, to chime, and I got a response almost right away by I think DE Markus (I don’t want to confidently say that, but I think it I was them, it was at least someone from DE). The next update the windchimes got a really nice ambient chime sound. That is the most inane feedback to listen to, but they did and it made me very happy, although it’s quite possible they already planned to do it. Even if they did, the fact that somebody working there even bothered responding to that is an example of how good their PR is.
WF for all it's faults, never succumbed to the blatant cash grab greedy bullshit of the last 10 years. Do you want fashion frame? Pay up, thats what the prime releases amounted to in my perspective. Lootboxes? People complained about pets and certain shop items . . . they removed them. The limited assortment of noob traps are still there, but again time is money and sometimes you just want to pay. Unlike other "pay to skip" game monetization schemes, this one always felt somewhat fair in retrospect. WF taught me to be patient and anticipate what I earned. You can play the game for free and get nearly everything, at the cost of 1000's of hours across multiple years, but that cost is a journey. You make friends, have fun with people. It is the BEST online only experience ever made if it is your jam. Movement will likely never be any better across any other game, not even GunZ or similar bullet jump games did it quite like DE. DE has always shown passion "against the needs of being profitable." Hit or miss, most of the major releases were extremely hype and didn't fall flat for me. Warframe is an EXPERIENCE, a long journey mastering everything. Warframe has an interesting and unique cinematic story, which I'm surprised they havent turned into a movie by now. The art and aesthetic is on point for me. If there was ever a game to transition to VR, THIS WOULD BE IT. The amazing community " a community that rivals that of ANY game ever made" has always been friendly and helpful, this happened across my first 300 hours where I hit LUA and wanted to find octavia for the first time. The JOY of seeing all of the LUA puzzles and exploring the world was bar none. The continued joy of partying with people and seeing new things every couple dozen or a hundred hours kept it going until I hit 1k hours and nearly mastered everything. Warframe is a game I wished they'd make available offline with P2P connectivity towards the end of it's life cycle. It would be a massive lose for the world if this game disappeared after shutting down. I love warframe, I will cry when it shutsdown . . . .
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it was [DE]Marcus. I had a similar experience. When Angels of Zariman launched, it came with decorations you could purchase with standing. There were these chemistry test tube decorations worth 4k each, except I noticed that one of them was worth 40k. Wondering if they just added an extra 0 by mistake, I complained about it on the subreddit. Didn't really expect anything to come of it, was just something to laugh about. But Marcus said he was going to look into it and on the next hotfix, they reduced the price. Never thought I'd get such a quick response. I'm gonna miss that guy (he has since left DE iirc). It's one of the few games where it really feels like the devs actually care and listen to the community.
5k hours player here. The part where you said about the unspoken competitions with randoms is soooo true. It's always a race (for me) even if no one said anything 😂
@@meromoz F that... it begins straight from the start of the mission... the true test is doing a capture mission and then downing, capturing and STILL being on the extraction platform first...
TitaniaP Main here. And yes I take it personally to look into nooks and crannies looking for those rare containers and sculptures as a sidequest while ALSO racing to be first to extraction. It's such a rush and an unspoken agreement to just do.
For me, warframe is like minecraft. One of my all time favourites and I stop playing it all the time but then I come back. I'm the last of my friends that still plays warframe. One reason for that is the MIGHTY SEER meme but mostly because the movement and gunplay just feels good, not to mention it's nostalgic of days past. The grind is annoying but the games fun, it's a great mindless shooter. Always loved your videos mate
I've never played warframe, but I absolutely understand what you mean through minecraft. I'm interested in warframe through and wondering if it would be worth getting started with now. Would you recommend it or not to a new player?
@MuscarV2 I 100% recommend it. It anything I think now is the best time to start. You can get straight into the latest update without having to go through the old stuff. Best thing is you can really pick what you want to do when. The game is as complex as you want it to be. It's a bit of a grind sometimes but it's balanced by its fun
@@MuscarV2he game is almost perfect. But there's many downsides, 1) bugs. Since the game makes new, exiting quests very fast. They are suspect to bugs and lag 2. The grind. Each individual thing takes hours upon hours to get. The grind is unreal. I mean you literally have to have no job to be able to have the time for this 3) addictive. The game is very addictive. It's so addictive you play it for a week straight resulting in a burnout and you'll take many breaks as it will be boring and you'll have nothing to do. 4) however it is good as its F2P. You can play for free and get the same stuff as P2W players through grind. Hope it helps! :)
no shit u stopped playing and came back like a nolifer, because of the "Grind is annoying" its nothing compared to minecraft, i have no clue how the fuck did this comparison come to ur warframe brain.
I would downright say it’s Iconic. It’s quite a work of art and really paints the picture of hardship that Fortuna really endures as a game faction. Like a Disney song that isn’t afraid to be carrying a dark message
Shame that a lot of the other cuts scenes didn’t have that much attention put in, but it’s a free game, so I’m not gonna be actually upset about the story not being incredible
@@milktenders6219 well considering that the scene you see is just the live assets and nothing changes significantly as you play, it wasn’t hard to put together since it’s permanent. Making a whole new scene like parts of the sacrifice quest would take a lot more time and resources just to be a one off event.
You’ve made a good impact on the games community and got to communicate with the devs. It’s an honorable achievements and can make the goodbye that much better for you. Well done and good fortune
I've always struggled with how to explain to friends who've never played why I come back to Warframe time after time. The short version is "the movement has ruined other games for me and the art/sound will amaze you" and the long version is a 4 hour TED talk of the lore, mechanics, and my history with the game. Thank you for making something I can link them that will do a much better job than I ever could explaining the incredible draw and inevitable frustrations that come with this game.
Personally, I find WF too fast. All you do is zoom through the same corridors, auto-killing mobs with AOE guns or abilities. It's just ADHD the game, but not in a good way.
As someone with 5k ish hours i think you summed it up pretty well. The game is not without it's flaws but the things it does right (and there are a lot of them), it does them soo right it ruins other games.
everytime i take a break from the game it takes me a while to unlearn the muscle memory from warframe's movement. a while ago i had this moment in the curcuit in which i bullet jumped into the air kicked of a wall to the left, glided a bit to kick of an enemies head to then glide to the over site of a large gap. all of it was muscle memory, i didn't have to think about it. after reaching the other side i had this small pause and just wonder at what point my brain just got used to doing this. no other games does this to me and it's always refreshing to experince again after a larger break.
With almost 8k hours under my belt and after watching your recap I can only say, job well done sir 👏... wf is and will remain one of the best games I ever played in a long run and I've played a lot of them in my 50+ years of age
Respect Veteran 40 plus years gaming Started with the 2600. Q-Bert the 1st Video game to have swearing. censored swearing, but still swearing. That was huge to 7 year old me.
@@ChickenJoe-tq6xd me? I work a full time job, and in my free time I climb mountains and explore undergorund caves ... so yeah, I go outside, but I play a lot of games also
Rant inbound cause I love the idea of warframe but the devs fucking suck compared to all the content D2 has: Which content were you starved of? One of the 20 quirky long strikes? One of the 7 raids Warframe doesn't have? One of the 8 dungeons warframe doesn't have? The multiplayer warframe doesn't have? The exotics and meaningful fun build making warframe doesn't have?? My biggest regret was spending 130 hours on warframe just to find out the shitty boring planet missions I run through is suppose to be the end game content called "steel path" fucking ridiculous idea for a game. I just want fun bosses, enemy boss diversity and different game modes to run throuhjb
@@wowdude5056 I need whatever you're smoking. You cannot tell me that DE is a worse dev than a company that routinely deletes DLC content that people paid for, making them unable to access it. I don't care how much "content" Destiny 2 has (which, by the way, I played for about 100 hours and got insanely bored), Bungie is a shell of a company and will never recover, especially after this wave of layoffs. Their last DLC sold the least copies ever, meanwhile Warframe has never gone below its launch day playercount, and is currently at about 10x the concurrent players at launch. How's that for a "worse development team"? No meaningful build making?? What??? There are literally fifteen different damage types in the game you can build around. And that's just for weapons. The diversity in building weapons and warframes alone is insane. There's hundreds of weapons, tens of warframes. Sure, Warframe doesn't have raid bosses, but you know what it does have that Destiny doesn't? Go watch the 'Diversity' section of the video which is only a minute long, since I highly doubt you made it that far if you're saying shit like this. And all that content is FREE. You have to pay HUNDREDS of dollars to access all the DLC from Destiny, which you have to constantly worry is going to get deleted in the future. D2 has its own type of content and grind and I respect it, but there is no way you are trying to say that it's the better, more diverse game.
i've been running solo on some sortie missions and some high level missions that im not par with using octavia. Press 1 or 2 (optional) then lay back and enjoy the show.
@@nullstate8117 he has 10,000 hours, I think it's reasonable to expect personal biases. Like I have around 3.7k on tf2 after playing for 8 years or so, so obviously I think the movement and skill expression in that game is top notch and better than everything else out there (still true idc come fight me). How much more someone who's spent 10k hours? Tho real talk if I have to say, objectively the best movement in any shooter/3d space is Gunz: The Duel. Crazy hard to learn and the community is niche but dedicated, but yeah that's not up for discussion. The best movement in any platformer/2d space is Smash Bro's Melee, also not up for discussion.
I had no idea Warframe actually had a good story since I played it a long time ago and dropped it. Thanks for making this video, I'll definitely give it another try.
I've been wondering what happened to you, you helped me a lot with dojo and orbiter decorating. I was looking forward to more dojo room and decoration reviews, but the content you've already made will last me the rest of my time in warframe, thanks vash, we will miss you
you really hit well on the point that they act in a constructive way as much as possible. example the rivens addition, or bullet jumping, removing abilities as mod cards, all those things were annoying and they fixed it. also when dojos started it was kinda cool to have a personal social space, but now you log on after being afk in a clan for several months and suddenly thres a full blown dragon made out of random bits in the base
Honnestly it feels like a love letter to the game while still leaving it wihout any kind of hate towards it. It feels great to see & remind me why I love this game while still having 10% of your playtime (might be what prevent me from burning out since I'm playing since like... 10 years now). Great vid & wish you the best in your next ones
That is the secret to enjoying Warframe indefinitely, going at your own pace without forcing yourself to enter the game every day without exception. I have been in Warframe for many years and I have always avoided everything that could burn me, as a consequence of this I do not have everything but I have everything I need.
@@nimitsharma9140Agree. While other current live service games rely heavily on FOMO to keep their game alive, Warframe is 1 of few that doesn't use FOMO to keep the game alive. FOMO in video games really makes the game like a job, so stressful. Especially me, who can't control my own pace and affected by the FOMO.
This game was a labor of love for a decade. To see Warframe become what it is today just makes a gamer like me smile from ear to ear. The shear amount of content available today makes the game (at first) pretty hard to sink into. But the friends I've sent in all day different things. Only one thing stays the same. Come back!! Tbh I've wanted to but other games have their own hold on me like his one did all those years ago. Maybe one day
Warframe really truly is something special to a lot of us. I love it to death and still play it even with all its blemishes. If I had to boil all the critiques I've had into one suggestion, it'd be this: I hope there will be a time when they dedicate their resources into revitalizing the parts of the game that were left to dry as they poured their resources into making new bombastically different updates that will take half a year to fully iron out before moving onto the next big bombastic update (I just hope Duviri is the last open world they do because we seriously did not _need_ more after PoE and Duviri would be a good note to end these years of Open World obsession)
@@Unknown_Genius i stopped playing after PoE because i felt like the open world was just another big map that, after playing for a couple months, only served to make my fingers more tired after performing the same set of movements over and over again. As more open world "maps" got released im not feeling enough excitement to compel me to play the game again. Which is weird, because sometimes i just really miss the way my Nova moved even when playing other games, i miss the curves of her metallic body. The moment-to-moment movement and combat in warframe really are some magical stuff but it just doesn't feel good if a new open world map feels like another set of chores. i would give my firstborn for a warframe-like action rpg.
In theory we got the 4 open worlds that were promissed way back when PoE was being planned, one ofr each faction, grinner(PoE), Corpus(Fortuna), infested(deimos) and now duviri for the corrupted. The only one that could still come one way would be the one for the sentient with we invading their star system. But we already have the man in the wall and void to focus on the history. Sadly I dont believe they are ever going to come back, the history is already a mess, Nef anyo, is killed, revived in 2 events that nobody remembers anymore, and fight him out of order (the infested version is only found 3 planets past the time you fight the one that made a deal with the sentients, that is the present one btw)
I hope Railjack eventually gets built into its original concept - a way to connect all the content islands together and have different squads working together, while also having content depth itself.
That and just guide new players, try telling someone how to get into the game, it's just... Absolutely opaque as to what the hell you're supposed to be DOING to a new player
My brother convinced me to play around the Second Dream and I was an addicted from the start. Literally spent 8 hours a day the first 2 weeks grinding. It was marvelous Duviri and the changes since then have always added so much flavor. Honestly i feel spoiled by the game
Played back in 2014-2015, I remember second dream, I also remember playing the game from when I woke up, up until I went to bed on some days. Truly a masterpiece with great devs and community. I am however one man and I couldn't afford to keep that up. Couldn't find a way to balance the game with my life, so I ended up quitting it completely, I couldn't "just play a little", it was a dopamine machine and I couldn't control myself. 8 years clean now.
I burnt out after about 1k. Superb game, incredible world, art, gameplay, lore, very very original. Generous devs too on the whole. The game is its own worst enemy though. Those story quests are SO good (I might have cried a lil at the sacrifice) , that they thrust the bare bones skeleton of the original game from into perspective. when it started it had 1 procedural level, a corpus ship, and the mission types were just all the possible ways you could stretch a single concept into 'content'. defend the thing, now defend the thing in 3 locations, kill 1 thing, kill many things, now do it 3 more times for your reward etc etc. THAT game is still underneath and not only has it not changed, its the MAIN loop and its the opposite of immersive. After you've witnessed those bigger quests , everything else is a hamster wheel grind of arbitrary road blocks clearly put in place to stall you until the next quest is produced. It's because that it permanently feels like its never reaching it's potential. I actually think it would make a fantastic movie, this universe is up there with Frank Herbert's Dune for sure.
I just got back into the game, and my one gripe with it is that there's a rush system for crafting things. having to wait 3 days to build something that takes less than 5-8 hours to get the materials for really sucks and feels like a mobile game mechanic, especially when the platinum cost is so high to rush it
The problem isn't unique to warframe. Let's be honest the next best replacement to warframe in the form of Destiny does the exact same with power cap and the time gating on it. Hell, even if we just go throughout mmos, there are always systems in place to slow down the player in some way, whether it's in a form of grinding itself (the least egregious) to outright time gating (the middle ground imo) or heaven forbid item loss (crafting and having the item cease to exist). Obviously, it isn't for everyone, but it's a constant that we gotta deal with in live service games as a whole.
@@wellumm8350Yeah I really don't mind it in the long run. I've spent more time grinding for crap in destiny than Warframe and Warframe actually feels different to play with different guns instead of the archetypes that make most things feel exactly the same. Most guns in Warframe would be Exotics in Destiny, and I don't need to hope for a 1% chance to drop an engram on top of them being locked behind DLC or worse yet, having been tied to sunset content so I need a DLC pass on top of having to grind raids for materials.
@@wellumm8350 Toxic behavior isnt unique to any specific personb but that doesn't mean we should just turn the other cheek and allow ourselv es to be treated that way. People out there love you. Be kind to yourself. You deserve better.
I stoped at fortuna when they announced ships. I loved the game but I just could not keep playing with the moving goalpost of a game that would never end
Yeah, Black Desert Online and Warframe player. I feel your pain bro, but with all of the recent changes in gaming industry, these are the only games that allow me to stay....No good games coming out at all...
I got 1000 hours and i honestly don’t have any intention of stopping any time soon. I love showing new players cool frames and weapons, playing missions with different frames is always engaging, and the movement is so good that when I try going back to other games I get bored immediately. Although since my friends left I won’t deny that I have gotten a bit lonely and depressed since going solo (which was 600 hours ago). But I have other things like making art and writing in my life to cheer me up.
I'm in 2000 hours and I just can't anymore. The game just doesn't offer me anything anymore. The content I'm mainly doing is repetitive and I just don't want to crack the 1 billionth relic anymore. Don't want to do the 1 billionth cephalon lvl up mission.... It just eats too much time for me that I'd want to spend on testing new builds and playstyles, trying out different missions, yet I'm doing those tedious and boring ones I absolutely have to all the time. I'm not mad though, I got 2k out of a f2p title. Put a good amount of money in it, had a fun clan to play with... I'm satisfied.
13:36 And every single one of those expansions is a buggy, immersion-breaking mess that DE forgot right after releasing it, that do nothing but lock you out of main story quests and force you to grind stuff that has daily caps on progress, like standing in cetus, fortuna and daimos. HOW FUN
Hey, i just remembered that I used to be in your clan for some time! As such, I want to thank you for the time I was able to spend with your creations even if this is funnily enough the first time i have seen your youtube videos. It was a blast showing my new player friends around your dojo and I had a great time exploring every nook and cranny of it. As such as somebody who will stick around with the game... goodbye. Or not! Who knows, what goes around comes around!
I relate so much with this video it's crazy. It reminded me why I quite, made me want to go back in, made me wish I could re experience it, made me feel like I made the right decision to quit. I only have 2,2k hours on it
This is the video that encapsulates the Warframe experience. You yourself have been a big part of the Dojo community and taught me a lot, emphasising the good part of the games community. Very well said, Vash.
Hello Vash! I just discovered this channel through this video and i have never seen someone explain the essence of Warframe in such an in-depth and entertaining way! I haven't touched Warframe in over 3 years but i am more than convinced to hit that download button after your video, thw Warframe community owes you!
This video spoke to me on a level unlike any other wf video I've seen before. I've been pretty consistently playing this game since 2014 and have become fairly burnt out with it but I 100% believe that Warframe is worth your time and one of the best ftp games ever made. Thank you for this. Even if I don't enjoy the game as much anymore the experiences it has given me have made my time spent well worth it.
I've gotten into this game 4 or 5 times, each time of which I've sank between 500 and 1000 hours into the game. Each time, eventually getting to the point that it felt like there wasn't anything more to do, like all that was left was doing the same thing over and over to grind minor improvements to a character. Began feeling disappointed and disinterested because of that feeling, and quit, not even thinking a single thought about the game for at least a year. After the 2nd time of quitting the game I thought, "I remember now why I quit in the first place, I'm never going to touch this game again." Well I had that exact same thought every time I've quit the game thereafter. And yet I returned back to the game 2 or 3 times after thinking that, and a few times, I've considered returning to the game since I've last quit. The game really is amazing, there's a reason I've gone back to it so many times. The gameplay feels so amazing and it makes you feel epic in such a way that there's a kind of nostalgia around playing Warframe that is its own kind of nostalgia somehow. Which is why I've returned to the game so many times. Yet at the same time the game is a slog through trash. It comes to the point that the gameplay doesn't feel epic anymore, and it feels like the only reason you have to play it is to grind at which point the game has lost its color; then again, is there a game that that latter statement doesn't apply to? Perhaps it's the way I play games and get addicted that is the problem there. That said, every time I've gotten back into Warframe it felt like a fresh new experience and there were now tons of things to do. And every time I've gotten back into Warframe, figuring out what to do felt very intimidating; as it felt like there were too many things I wanted to do.
It's the burn out that changes the perspective.. even life can feel like a repetive slog towards death. When what you do becomes a mechanical thing that you do just for the outcome it's hard to enjoy. Slow down and enjoy the moment.. if you can.
4:34 Correction: both bulletjumping (was called and worked differently back then) and coptering coexisted at the same time, along with the stamina. DE altered the bulletjump mechanic to respect the player view angle, made it more controllable and overall smoothed out the movement.
There was no bullet jump back in the day was added with the bullet jump mods coptering used to be the only way to get around, no wall latch either, back when Saryn was just press 4 nuke and excaliburs 4 was radial javelin.
@@LunarEdge7 There was a time we had wall running in warframe. It looked cool but it was impractical to use because you hat to latch on the wall at certain angles. But coptering with my dual zoren will always be a good memory.
The crafting times being too long is absolutely true, I crafted a warframe saw that Its build time was 3 days. I thought I should set an alarm for it, welp despite the alarm I never logged in again because I completely forgot about it. I guess MMOs arent for me
For what its worth, I feel like there's something people aren't saying to you Mr. Cowaii. Nobody will think less of you if you *do* come back to warframe, every so often, or in five years, or anything. Follow your heart, Praise Grofit and the Tubemen, and Dream of What You Are. Aka, have a good one Vash Cowaii.
I stopped playing when they did the melee rework. I took a long break and came back to find that my account was literally missing a quarter of my inventory. Things vaulted when I was still playing, primes, mods, warframes wepons... I was missing my started Excalibur and the game said I had zero hours played on him. I contacted support and they said that they wouldn't give me anything because I had no evidence. You know, other than video evidence I sent with my report of me playing Excalibur when I started. I loved my time with warframe, but I can't go back and support it after that. I hope another gem will come along like this again.
Mate I’m loving finding this video, your perspective is amazing. As a fairly newer player(a year in). Devastating to see you go but can say I’ll be subscribing and going through your video catalog to learn on how to decorate my own dojo 😊 thank you. I’m looking forward to seeing what you start playing next
My new player experience several months ago was like: ok, got some story/explain missions done and now what? Any paths? Guideance? No? Okay.. I'll try this and this and played several hours. Went to a Wiki and some yt videos about how to change the Warframe, then I build a new Warframe and as you said logged out because it took some time to complete and never logged back in and instead went back to Destiny 2.
What an absolutely fair and heartwarming 'goodbye' video! I still love my space ninja game, but I love it for every point you touched on. The community is so fun and helpful and with cross-platform added that means more tenno on Hydron that I can play my shawzin for. I've not clue who you are, I just searched "warframe" to watch a video while I ate some dinner and holy heck was this good. Best wishes moving forward.
You have hundreds of hours of content ahead of you. I'm outside rn so can't give much advice lmao. I'll just add that if you're feeling lost go check out Brozime on youtube, he has a series of guides for newcomers. Have fun Tenno!
the farm will always take its toll. Veteran here, yes i also play when an update comes out but soon drop it, what made me play for so long was my friends, now that i am solo, it isnt fun as before.
Awesome video and commentary. My favorite part of the game has been collecting all and trying all sorts of different weapons and making pea shooters into destroyers of worlds like you said! This channel and its content have evolved so much and it is amazing to see!
New player experience here. The complexity of these games is why I don't bother anymore. Looking up guides and forum posts to just get a basic understanding of what is going on is a no go. Warframe looks amazing and I played it for a couple days... but it has so much going on that it felt like work.
I started playing like 2 years ago but i only played it bc of the nice graphics and got bored fast but the last few weeks my friend started playing so i actually started playing seriously and im already addicted to it, the time to craft itens i dont like but its something that make me more anxious to play again, its like the day before Christmas when you were a kid, i cant wait to wake up enter the game claim the item and go test it out, the game is a bit confusing at the start and its gonna take some time before start talking with the community bc there is so much content till the end game that if you're an "casual" player its gonna take a while but from my experience till now the game only gets better and alr on my 150 hours the grind i did wasn't anoying obviously i cant speak for the more advanced stuff but till now the game never disappointed me and hope continues like that, loving it.
I’ve quit the game after a long 2,000+ hours of playtime. During that time I’ve met some of the greatest people and immersed myself in this amazing community, I can honestly say I don’t regret the time I’ve spent playing. I might come back one day when Gauss Prime comes out or cross-save does, but until then I think this is a good place to leave the game. Thank you for everything, DE.
Great Video, I´ve been playing warframe since 2017 and you summarized everything I could think of, the great and the bad. Can see that you put a lot of thought in making the video. You made me start trying Dojo/orbiter decoration and I had quite fun so far (thats a lie, I wasted so much time, I need help) anyway ty for all the guides ^^
I was literally thinking about coptering about 2 hours ago and came to youtube to search for a video tutorial to see if someone back in the day made one, for cool nostalgia, and this popped up on my front page (never seen or heard of you before) thought I'd watch it on my way through and oh my god you talked about coptering.
I never really followed the game that closely, but the "negatives" section cracked me up because that was exactly what burned me out on the game and led to me quitting after playing it pretty consistently every night for about 2 years
I've played this game for thousands of hours as well. It was indisputably the longest running 'trusted developer that keep their promises' and the best player friendly implementation of 'free-to-play', probably to this day. Unfortunately, I'm one of those people that loved the original game being the instance based mission running thing and grew increasingly more disappointed when they've started implementing more and more unique content, having nothing to do with the base game, but still mandatory for progression. And them being unable to fulfill their promise of Railjack interconnecting the space content with the instance content. It got to a point where I realized I'm not enjoying a minute of my playtime anymore and I keep playing only because I've already invested so much time into it. I'll never come back to this game. But I suppose for the most part, it was time well spent.
I'm the same way, mostly. Duviri was cool, but what I really wanted was more instanced warframe gameplay, and the game hasn't really been about that for like... 3-4 years.
the sad reactions when you ask anyone at DE or the reddit about "but what about content and lore about the warframes in my game called warframe?" NO ENJOY VOIDKID, IT'S F2P, YOU DON'T GET TO COMPLAIN. Is imo the biggest detriment
What do you mean keeping their promises?! I can remember multiple times the community was thorn apart because of their bad decisions and updates. The Hijack update is a great example. The community managers have an ok relationship with the community but the actual devs are forced to do, what their upper managers are telling them. NO ONE wanted Hijack in that state. NO ONE wanted mechs in this game. And now the newest content... it is all so disconnected from the initial view of the game.
@@SacredDaturaathe game does have more instanced gameplay... they've now released the Zariman and the Albrecht Labratory tileset within the span of just a year and a half...which each have their own new unique mission types, as well. Only caveat is that they're locked behind TNW, but that's nothing new either. Lua was locked behind Second Dream. The Grineer Fortress was locked behind War Within. Where are you coming from with this?
I know it's a really big game with tons of stuff to do, but I couldn't even get to 1k hours. I'm now at 311 hours and kinda bored because I completed my goal. I created a monster out of my Baruuk Prime, his damage is so high that I don't need anything else and he's the most fun to play out of all frames. Now I'm collecting mother tokens for Naberus event and I have no idea what to do later.
I think the grind aspect really shouldn't be understated. It's the reason I quit 2k hours in. If you leave the game for awhile it takes forever to catch back up. 2k hours was enough for endgame in 2014. I'm not surprised you have 10k now. The problem with the grind is that you can pay to bypass most of it. New frame is released with horrendous grind requirements? Just pay 325 plat instead. (That's $17 btw.) Yes, you can technically trade other players for plat too, but you're already trading other players for plat so you can buy mods (especially rivens) & prime parts, warframe slots, reactors/catalysts, riven slots... and QoL like if you want to rush builds. It's either grind for parts or grind for currency... or pay real money.
Yes and slots and Forma, are everything in this game. Slots for each Warframe weapon Companion, Vehicle, and Rivens Then of course Forma. "The F Word" 1 Forma takes 23 hours to craft. So many weapons need at least 3 or 4 Forma. So to build your weapons and frames it will take 3-4 days. If you're trying to load out Sevagoth. 2 and 1/2 weeks to make all the forma required to make a build for Sevagoth.
I mean time is money in a sense literally so people with jobs who have expendable income can actually play the game for 30 mins and not spend 8 hours a day grinding. Its debatable but I think the grind is good. I work 8 hours a day and i don't think I can grind anymore like I was in highschool but i still do want to try the new things. Its PVE so the "pay to win" aspect is fine IMO since nobody plays Lunaro/conclave anyway.
Imo, the devs blew off the vets with the new war by that i meant the constant delay of new war for literally two years. they kept that on to the point that the game was so dull many players eventually quit and grew to hate the game and when its released it was so sloppy, its great but its not worth the 2 years wait. Zariman quest was a nice touch but it felt more like a chore rather than a good grind, I literally came back during this time for a maximum of 3-4 months and I was bored of it again.
I'm glad you enjoyed the game a lot. Its sad but reasonable for a player to leave the game as well sometimes we just have to stop and move on to do other things. I do though hope you hop back on sometime later down the line or keep tabs on the game don't just drop it out right like probably a lot of people would do. Also if I can make a suggestion Destiny 2 if the D2 is correct wouldn't be the greatest choice for a new comer money wise. I only say this cause of exprience, I dropped off after Beyond light and missing two major DLC which also for some reason Bungie decided to add in a bunch of smaller stuff as "paid content" that really stuff that should be ingame already. I think Warframe is the best free to play game, while having problems the fun, experience, and community out weigh those problems much more. Compare to Destiny 2 where while there is a community it more tries to hold on to older players while pushing away newer players who don't have the money. There a few things you can do in the game but without money it's gonna be hard to really attach yourself to it. If you do still want to get in it I hope you have lots of fun and best of luck your gonna need it.
you kidding with Destiny 2 trying to hold on to older players? Bungies pretty much abandoned so many aspects of that game in favor of development of their newest game, it feels more like theyre squeezing every last drop of money they can out of the playerbase. Like the new game looks nice, but its a real slap in the face for a great many D2 players
@@notaliablename2538 you just proved my point at them trying to hold onto older D2 players. Again it's that sunk cost falicy and FOMO which keeps older players in the game but with this realization that their getting squeezed for cash they'll probably start to leave.
my problem with the game is DE not playing and understanding their game, so essentially making clueless choices sometimes going on actual crusades to nerf things, then releasing outright OP things, like some kind of bipolar phase can't we just have fun with the broken? the game is supposed to feel like a power trip when you essentially maul 99% of the enemies warframes are scary, their arsenal is scary
Exactly what I've been saying for years. Only time Nerfing is necessary is in PVP, but since PVP is a Ghost town that hasn't been demolished yet. There's no need for nerfing our shit.
@@skylarmccloud4080 thank you!!!! Exactly it's pve why should things be nerfed its not PvP and this is coming from someone who maxed conclave standing it's been dead for years like dude before cross progress was thing
It's been almost a year since this came out, and a little over a year since I finally got back into Warframe for good this time. I remember watching this when it came out and that's when I knew that, despite its flaws, Warframe would be a game that sticks with me for a long time. Cut to a year later and I'm happy to say I was right, and even though I've watched pretty much every review I could find, I still think this is my favorite review for the game I've ever seen. I hope anyone looking to get into Warframe is able to see this video and find the way they want to play before they lose interest
Im convinced there is no game that has a community as wholesome. Yeah ive met a few dickheads but 99% of the player base are really kind and polite people and that incentivizes returning the kindness. Few days ago someone in trade chat said they were depressed and wanted company. I messaged them, cheered them up a bit and they said "bless your soul" 😢 they thought i helped them but they actually made my whole day.
I loved the movement and asthetics in this, but the grind immediately turned me off, so I never got past the first handful of beginner levels. If they ever make something similar that's just a one-time purchase, I'm in.
14:10 It is amazing how diversified the game is but it is also bloated at this point with not many connections between the parts of the game. The starchart nodes need to be reduced and the openworld parts need to be more fused to the rest of the game. I hope They'll focus on that after Duviri. 5:12 * flashbacks nightmare to the universal vacuum discussions back in the days * Still not implemented so ppl only use the immortal infested cat x). I never stop playing this game but I do play a LOT less. Like the new incarnum farm I just farm 1 weapon per week because i don't have the time nor the motivation to farm like a madman. Still enjoy so much the gameplay as well as the art direction.
Once I got to MR25 or whatever (it was the max you could get back then) I decided I had beaten the game and moved on. That was 2500 hrs in lol. I know they've released a hell of a lot of content, but in my mind I've already beaten it, no need to return, enjoyed my time, time to move on :)
Game is overwhelming for me, even if I was playing it for almost 1 year in ~2013, when I wanted to come back around 2 years ago, I didn't know what to do and my builds and cards were shitty.
Honestly the fact that a game can keep you interested for almost 10000 hours is amazing. Saying a game is bad because you got bored of it after a literal year's worth of playtime is crazy.
I have 2215.9 hours in this game and last time I played it is 2015. Here's the kicker, I started in 2014... I check up on it every once in a while, but I will never launch it again, because I have a family now, I cannot afford to go back. It's easily the best game I have ever played, but also by far the most addicting. When I was playing it I was recommending it to everyone, telling people to stick to it because it gets real good when you get used to it. I said that because even in 2015 this game was HUGE and had a lot of content and it was hard for a new player to get into, now it's several times bigger and as much as I'm curious I will not go back and I will not recommend the game, because either they will get overwhelmed with content and quit or get addicted af, there's no middle ground, once you're playing Warframe you're living warframe, no other game matters. Great game, 11/10, but so is heroin to a junkie.
The biggest thing holding this game back in my opinion is having to lvl up all different items to gain lvl xp. I probably had couple thousand hours in this game and wasnt even half way to the max lvl because I just couldnt force myself to lvl up all the boring stuff
I've stopped playing it, along with all games in general two years ago. Got just 6k hours. But it was enough, for me to quit all of them all together. I am proud of it.
Everytime someone says they want to try warframe, I tell them that unless they want to quit their job, and commit to a life of warframe. Don't try it. The game is good, it is addictive, it is also a soul sucking pit of never ending despair and google searches.
It definitely takes a lot of time, but is nowhere near as bad as other Live Service games. You can go months without playing and not miss barely anything. Seems almost every game these days need weekly or daily attendance, with the influx of battlepasses, time-gated progression, and limited-time events. Warframe replaced the Alerts system with Nightwave, which makes it easier to get Nitain Extract etc. without being constantly online. It's still a battlepass, but is completely free, and has no unique rewards that won't come back later.
I'm surprised you didn't have your own footage of coptering. I guess I started playing Warframe really early. I got 500hours in and I stopped playing because it was so good, it was addicting. A difficult choice but a very good one for me.
Where was you 7 going on 8 years ago.. (sniff sniff) Anyway I'll sell you this CD Player for some Platinum. wts a Dollar Store Walkman 500 pl.. (sniff sniff) aight 200 pl (he said scratching his dope marks)
real and true. It's not a bad game, but it also is not one I would recommend. It's like, coke tastes nice. Would I recommend it? No. There's just one reason I still care about Warframe: I really love the art, the art direction, and the universe. This is the same reason I still care about Riot Games despite League of Legends being worse than many kinds of torture. 3:54 I member. 5:48 nice blue color scheme. 13:12 more importantly, the eternal beta is why cool game systems get introduced, then promptly abandoned, and there is no particular meaningful path through the solar system or a reason to do all the missions. 13:33 gameplay diversity would be a more accurate name for this section
Developer outreach is a real thing. Im personally responsible for why every build uses prime sure footed 😅 also a few vuban changes and that little sound eximus make when there overgaurd break. That's all me.
Played a lot at release. Then once or twice tried to go back, but it just becomes such a turn down when I pick a mission on my level and then get stomped several times and I don't understand why. Or I need a material or last piece for new warframe and obviously it won't drop. The massive size of the game and available activities does not help at all.
The point is whatever you want it to be. My friend just likes collecting Primes. I like optimizing builds. It's all down to what you want out of the game.
@@eelshark12345That's the curse of a lot of modern games. They want to cater to everyone. What suffers is quality. I think the best days of WF were over 5years ago.
I tried getting into the game multiple times but I just don't have the... intrinsic? motivation to keep playing. Also, the 'unofficial' movement tech reminds me of Apex Legends which also has a bunch of movement tech that wasn't planned by the devs. They've started embracing it though, they even used some in the newest trailers.
I’m a few months late but I’m just gonna say my biggest issue is theres no End Game. There are no raids or hard dungeons. Also the Grind for the Mecha is ridiculous fuck that and you need it for most of the newer content.
I've been playing Warframe on and off since beta and i gotta say, your points are absolutely valid. For me personally tho, the only real downside of the game is that its SOO damn huge. That may sound dumb, but for me it can be (and has been) kinda overwhealming to get back to the game after some period of time and feeling like i have no clue how any of this works. There is however a little saving grace for most things. That beeing the fact that i can still just go use my old gear and play some missions having fun whithout having to think twice about any of the new stuff. You CAN get into that and it sure is fun, but you dont need to, if you dont want to.
i played warframe for 2 years straight, however i got to the end game and all i did was become a prime trader, i would spend hours waiting in the trade area for sells, while watching utube vids......my mental health took a downturn at this point, warframe made me feel alone, i decided to stop, i still have my account and every now and then i get the idea of picking it up again, but it just feels like a endless depressing grind
i don't usually have games that are above 500+ hours in and i rarely get the time to do anything entertaining in the past few days but my entire week-ends seems to be occupied with this game now, it's so addicting and i've already crossed 700 hour mark just playing it in weekends
When the windchime decoration was added, they were silent. I pointed out that this was a huge miss because the entire point of windchimes is to make sound, to chime, and I got a response almost right away by I think DE Markus (I don’t want to confidently say that, but I think it I was them, it was at least someone from DE). The next update the windchimes got a really nice ambient chime sound. That is the most inane feedback to listen to, but they did and it made me very happy, although it’s quite possible they already planned to do it. Even if they did, the fact that somebody working there even bothered responding to that is an example of how good their PR is.
WF for all it's faults, never succumbed to the blatant cash grab greedy bullshit of the last 10 years. Do you want fashion frame? Pay up, thats what the prime releases amounted to in my perspective. Lootboxes? People complained about pets and certain shop items . . . they removed them. The limited assortment of noob traps are still there, but again time is money and sometimes you just want to pay. Unlike other "pay to skip" game monetization schemes, this one always felt somewhat fair in retrospect. WF taught me to be patient and anticipate what I earned.
You can play the game for free and get nearly everything, at the cost of 1000's of hours across multiple years, but that cost is a journey. You make friends, have fun with people. It is the BEST online only experience ever made if it is your jam. Movement will likely never be any better across any other game, not even GunZ or similar bullet jump games did it quite like DE. DE has always shown passion "against the needs of being profitable." Hit or miss, most of the major releases were extremely hype and didn't fall flat for me. Warframe is an EXPERIENCE, a long journey mastering everything. Warframe has an interesting and unique cinematic story, which I'm surprised they havent turned into a movie by now. The art and aesthetic is on point for me. If there was ever a game to transition to VR, THIS WOULD BE IT. The amazing community " a community that rivals that of ANY game ever made" has always been friendly and helpful, this happened across my first 300 hours where I hit LUA and wanted to find octavia for the first time. The JOY of seeing all of the LUA puzzles and exploring the world was bar none. The continued joy of partying with people and seeing new things every couple dozen or a hundred hours kept it going until I hit 1k hours and nearly mastered everything. Warframe is a game I wished they'd make available offline with P2P connectivity towards the end of it's life cycle. It would be a massive lose for the world if this game disappeared after shutting down. I love warframe, I will cry when it shutsdown . . . .
Chime boss
Mine gratitude upon thee
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it was [DE]Marcus. I had a similar experience. When Angels of Zariman launched, it came with decorations you could purchase with standing. There were these chemistry test tube decorations worth 4k each, except I noticed that one of them was worth 40k. Wondering if they just added an extra 0 by mistake, I complained about it on the subreddit. Didn't really expect anything to come of it, was just something to laugh about. But Marcus said he was going to look into it and on the next hotfix, they reduced the price.
Never thought I'd get such a quick response. I'm gonna miss that guy (he has since left DE iirc). It's one of the few games where it really feels like the devs actually care and listen to the community.
You should tell that story more often.❤🎉
5k hours player here. The part where you said about the unspoken competitions with randoms is soooo true. It's always a race (for me) even if no one said anything 😂
yep.. same here!
Whenever I hear Extraction is ready
Its more like "The race begins"
@@meromoz F that... it begins straight from the start of the mission... the true test is doing a capture mission and then downing, capturing and STILL being on the extraction platform first...
I always look at the map, making sure i am ahead of gauss,volt, titania, wukong,i always finish first...wait.
TitaniaP Main here. And yes I take it personally to look into nooks and crannies looking for those rare containers and sculptures as a sidequest while ALSO racing to be first to extraction. It's such a rush and an unspoken agreement to just do.
For me, warframe is like minecraft. One of my all time favourites and I stop playing it all the time but then I come back. I'm the last of my friends that still plays warframe. One reason for that is the MIGHTY SEER meme but mostly because the movement and gunplay just feels good, not to mention it's nostalgic of days past. The grind is annoying but the games fun, it's a great mindless shooter. Always loved your videos mate
I've never played warframe, but I absolutely understand what you mean through minecraft. I'm interested in warframe through and wondering if it would be worth getting started with now. Would you recommend it or not to a new player?
@MuscarV2 I 100% recommend it. It anything I think now is the best time to start. You can get straight into the latest update without having to go through the old stuff. Best thing is you can really pick what you want to do when. The game is as complex as you want it to be. It's a bit of a grind sometimes but it's balanced by its fun
@@MuscarV2he game is almost perfect. But there's many downsides,
1) bugs. Since the game makes new, exiting quests very fast. They are suspect to bugs and lag
2. The grind. Each individual thing takes hours upon hours to get. The grind is unreal. I mean you literally have to have no job to be able to have the time for this
3) addictive. The game is very addictive. It's so addictive you play it for a week straight resulting in a burnout and you'll take many breaks as it will be boring and you'll have nothing to do.
4) however it is good as its F2P. You can play for free and get the same stuff as P2W players through grind.
Hope it helps! :)
@@sekaikage perfect in my eyes
no shit u stopped playing and came back like a nolifer, because of the "Grind is annoying"
its nothing compared to minecraft, i have no clue how the fuck did this comparison come to ur warframe brain.
The Fortuna intro was amazing. Arguably one of the best audio-visuals presented to me in a game.
I would downright say it’s Iconic. It’s quite a work of art and really paints the picture of hardship that Fortuna really endures as a game faction. Like a Disney song that isn’t afraid to be carrying a dark message
Shame that a lot of the other cuts scenes didn’t have that much attention put in, but it’s a free game, so I’m not gonna be actually upset about the story not being incredible
@@milktenders6219 well considering that the scene you see is just the live assets and nothing changes significantly as you play, it wasn’t hard to put together since it’s permanent. Making a whole new scene like parts of the sacrifice quest would take a lot more time and resources just to be a one off event.
i hope next time they sing about farming meidcal debt bonds jesus christ
@@coel5276 nah those are easy. I want the toroids.
You’ve made a good impact on the games community and got to communicate with the devs. It’s an honorable achievements and can make the goodbye that much better for you. Well done and good fortune
hey, fancy seeing you here lol
@@Raikeran i'm *everywhere*
nice of you to say hi dude
@@sajinkahnaltfound you 👀
@@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT A grave mistake on your part.
I've always struggled with how to explain to friends who've never played why I come back to Warframe time after time. The short version is "the movement has ruined other games for me and the art/sound will amaze you" and the long version is a 4 hour TED talk of the lore, mechanics, and my history with the game. Thank you for making something I can link them that will do a much better job than I ever could explaining the incredible draw and inevitable frustrations that come with this game.
Personally, I find WF too fast. All you do is zoom through the same corridors, auto-killing mobs with AOE guns or abilities. It's just ADHD the game, but not in a good way.
As someone with 5k ish hours i think you summed it up pretty well. The game is not without it's flaws but the things it does right (and there are a lot of them), it does them soo right it ruins other games.
everytime i take a break from the game it takes me a while to unlearn the muscle memory from warframe's movement.
a while ago i had this moment in the curcuit in which i bullet jumped into the air kicked of a wall to the left, glided a bit to kick of an enemies head to then glide to the over site of a large gap. all of it was muscle memory, i didn't have to think about it. after reaching the other side i had this small pause and just wonder at what point my brain just got used to doing this.
no other games does this to me and it's always refreshing to experince again after a larger break.
With almost 8k hours under my belt and after watching your recap I can only say, job well done sir 👏... wf is and will remain one of the best games I ever played in a long run and I've played a lot of them in my 50+ years of age
Respect Veteran 40 plus years gaming Started with the 2600. Q-Bert the 1st Video game to have swearing. censored swearing, but still swearing. That was huge to 7 year old me.
Easily the best game ever made
Do you ever go outside?
@@ChickenJoe-tq6xd me? I work a full time job, and in my free time I climb mountains and explore undergorund caves ... so yeah, I go outside, but I play a lot of games also
@@zdravkohorvat8522 that’s good I’m just playing
“I can’t bullet jump this is hell” felt that
I can do it but for what? Go you and I wait here tomorrow not work😢😢😢
Muscular memory ftw!
For me, going from Warframe to D2 was going from content overeating to content starvation
what is D2?
@@VeeZzz123destiny 2
@@yen_zen Thank you
Rant inbound cause I love the idea of warframe but the devs fucking suck compared to all the content D2 has:
Which content were you starved of? One of the 20 quirky long strikes? One of the 7 raids Warframe doesn't have? One of the 8 dungeons warframe doesn't have? The multiplayer warframe doesn't have? The exotics and meaningful fun build making warframe doesn't have?? My biggest regret was spending 130 hours on warframe just to find out the shitty boring planet missions I run through is suppose to be the end game content called "steel path" fucking ridiculous idea for a game. I just want fun bosses, enemy boss diversity and different game modes to run throuhjb
@@wowdude5056 I need whatever you're smoking.
You cannot tell me that DE is a worse dev than a company that routinely deletes DLC content that people paid for, making them unable to access it. I don't care how much "content" Destiny 2 has (which, by the way, I played for about 100 hours and got insanely bored), Bungie is a shell of a company and will never recover, especially after this wave of layoffs. Their last DLC sold the least copies ever, meanwhile Warframe has never gone below its launch day playercount, and is currently at about 10x the concurrent players at launch. How's that for a "worse development team"?
No meaningful build making?? What??? There are literally fifteen different damage types in the game you can build around. And that's just for weapons. The diversity in building weapons and warframes alone is insane. There's hundreds of weapons, tens of warframes.
Sure, Warframe doesn't have raid bosses, but you know what it does have that Destiny doesn't? Go watch the 'Diversity' section of the video which is only a minute long, since I highly doubt you made it that far if you're saying shit like this. And all that content is FREE. You have to pay HUNDREDS of dollars to access all the DLC from Destiny, which you have to constantly worry is going to get deleted in the future.
D2 has its own type of content and grind and I respect it, but there is no way you are trying to say that it's the better, more diverse game.
Octavia is BY FAR my favorite Warframe, being able to make your own music is so unique and cool, not to mention she can nuke maps with her beats
i've been running solo on some sortie missions and some high level missions that im not par with using octavia. Press 1 or 2 (optional) then lay back and enjoy the show.
Damn i haven’t seen the vid yet but I didn’t know there was a hero that could make music😂
so do you not like playing the actual game?
Never seen her nuke maps, especially not grineer.
@@ijustbevibin0425 me neither lmao wtf they added lucio to warframe?? Lmao
thanks for all your Dojo guides, they been of huge value. In what ever you move onto, I wish you good fortune man.
Good Fortuna you mean-
watching this review/recap as a new player around 50H just made me wanna play even more, massively underrated game
this is _actually_ one of the best summaries or descriptions of Warframe I've ever heard. kudos to you, good sir.
@BorelockBeing positive about a game you like isn't singing DE's praises. Dude was positive but fair
@@godzelda123
"Movement in ALL other games is bad
Warframe - good"
@@nullstate8117 Yeah exactly dude doesn't understand game design. Plus its generally braindead to take a subjective topic and calling it fact
"kudos to you, good sir!" maaaan shut the hell up
@@nullstate8117 he has 10,000 hours, I think it's reasonable to expect personal biases. Like I have around 3.7k on tf2 after playing for 8 years or so, so obviously I think the movement and skill expression in that game is top notch and better than everything else out there (still true idc come fight me). How much more someone who's spent 10k hours?
Tho real talk if I have to say, objectively the best movement in any shooter/3d space is Gunz: The Duel. Crazy hard to learn and the community is niche but dedicated, but yeah that's not up for discussion. The best movement in any platformer/2d space is Smash Bro's Melee, also not up for discussion.
I had no idea Warframe actually had a good story since I played it a long time ago and dropped it. Thanks for making this video, I'll definitely give it another try.
I've been wondering what happened to you, you helped me a lot with dojo and orbiter decorating. I was looking forward to more dojo room and decoration reviews, but the content you've already made will last me the rest of my time in warframe, thanks vash, we will miss you
you really hit well on the point that they act in a constructive way as much as possible. example the rivens addition, or bullet jumping, removing abilities as mod cards, all those things were annoying and they fixed it. also when dojos started it was kinda cool to have a personal social space, but now you log on after being afk in a clan for several months and suddenly thres a full blown dragon made out of random bits in the base
Honnestly it feels like a love letter to the game while still leaving it wihout any kind of hate towards it. It feels great to see & remind me why I love this game while still having 10% of your playtime (might be what prevent me from burning out since I'm playing since like... 10 years now).
Great vid & wish you the best in your next ones
That is the secret to enjoying Warframe indefinitely, going at your own pace without forcing yourself to enter the game every day without exception.
I have been in Warframe for many years and I have always avoided everything that could burn me, as a consequence of this I do not have everything but I have everything I need.
@@brago900 I love how you can hop off for an year and get right back up without missing much. not too much FOMO in warframe (fear of missing out)
@@nimitsharma9140Agree. While other current live service games rely heavily on FOMO to keep their game alive, Warframe is 1 of few that doesn't use FOMO to keep the game alive.
FOMO in video games really makes the game like a job, so stressful. Especially me, who can't control my own pace and affected by the FOMO.
This game was a labor of love for a decade. To see Warframe become what it is today just makes a gamer like me smile from ear to ear. The shear amount of content available today makes the game (at first) pretty hard to sink into. But the friends I've sent in all day different things. Only one thing stays the same. Come back!!
Tbh I've wanted to but other games have their own hold on me like his one did all those years ago. Maybe one day
Warframe really truly is something special to a lot of us.
I love it to death and still play it even with all its blemishes. If I had to boil all the critiques I've had into one suggestion, it'd be this:
I hope there will be a time when they dedicate their resources into revitalizing the parts of the game that were left to dry as they poured their resources into making new bombastically different updates that will take half a year to fully iron out before moving onto the next big bombastic update (I just hope Duviri is the last open world they do because we seriously did not _need_ more after PoE and Duviri would be a good note to end these years of Open World obsession)
@@Unknown_Genius i stopped playing after PoE because i felt like the open world was just another big map that, after playing for a couple months, only served to make my fingers more tired after performing the same set of movements over and over again. As more open world "maps" got released im not feeling enough excitement to compel me to play the game again. Which is weird, because sometimes i just really miss the way my Nova moved even when playing other games, i miss the curves of her metallic body. The moment-to-moment movement and combat in warframe really are some magical stuff but it just doesn't feel good if a new open world map feels like another set of chores. i would give my firstborn for a warframe-like action rpg.
In theory we got the 4 open worlds that were promissed way back when PoE was being planned, one ofr each faction, grinner(PoE), Corpus(Fortuna), infested(deimos) and now duviri for the corrupted. The only one that could still come one way would be the one for the sentient with we invading their star system. But we already have the man in the wall and void to focus on the history. Sadly I dont believe they are ever going to come back, the history is already a mess, Nef anyo, is killed, revived in 2 events that nobody remembers anymore, and fight him out of order (the infested version is only found 3 planets past the time you fight the one that made a deal with the sentients, that is the present one btw)
We've been saying this for like 4-5 years now 😂
I hope Railjack eventually gets built into its original concept - a way to connect all the content islands together and have different squads working together, while also having content depth itself.
That and just guide new players, try telling someone how to get into the game, it's just... Absolutely opaque as to what the hell you're supposed to be DOING to a new player
2:27 me every time I play a different game after getting back into warframe
My brother convinced me to play around the Second Dream and I was an addicted from the start. Literally spent 8 hours a day the first 2 weeks grinding. It was marvelous
Duviri and the changes since then have always added so much flavor. Honestly i feel spoiled by the game
Brothers, man. Mine also got me into the game back in the day.
Spoilers!11!!
The drifter is the tenno from another reality!111!11!!!!111!!!11
And da fridter appears in da new war.
@@foolted shut up maybe?
Played back in 2014-2015, I remember second dream, I also remember playing the game from when I woke up, up until I went to bed on some days. Truly a masterpiece with great devs and community. I am however one man and I couldn't afford to keep that up. Couldn't find a way to balance the game with my life, so I ended up quitting it completely, I couldn't "just play a little", it was a dopamine machine and I couldn't control myself. 8 years clean now.
@@markothevrba oh man... im there haha i cant just play a little..i always go for like 6 or 7 hours nonstop
you can dye the fire in your flamethrower. 11/10
bro dont quit, ive only just found your channel and the quality of this is far better than i expected from a warframe youtuber and i want more
I know i am a bit late but ty vash. Happy to be part of the staff.
From -HK-Zohar
Farewell vash, you'll be missed
I burnt out after about 1k. Superb game, incredible world, art, gameplay, lore, very very original. Generous devs too on the whole.
The game is its own worst enemy though. Those story quests are SO good (I might have cried a lil at the sacrifice) , that they thrust the bare bones skeleton of the original game from into perspective. when it started it had 1 procedural level, a corpus ship, and the mission types were just all the possible ways you could stretch a single concept into 'content'. defend the thing, now defend the thing in 3 locations, kill 1 thing, kill many things, now do it 3 more times for your reward etc etc. THAT game is still underneath and not only has it not changed, its the MAIN loop and its the opposite of immersive.
After you've witnessed those bigger quests , everything else is a hamster wheel grind of arbitrary road blocks clearly put in place to stall you until the next quest is produced. It's because that it permanently feels like its never reaching it's potential. I actually think it would make a fantastic movie, this universe is up there with Frank Herbert's Dune for sure.
I just got back into the game, and my one gripe with it is that there's a rush system for crafting things. having to wait 3 days to build something that takes less than 5-8 hours to get the materials for really sucks and feels like a mobile game mechanic, especially when the platinum cost is so high to rush it
It makes me quit every time. Just let me farm bosses and stuff for what I need
The problem isn't unique to warframe. Let's be honest the next best replacement to warframe in the form of Destiny does the exact same with power cap and the time gating on it. Hell, even if we just go throughout mmos, there are always systems in place to slow down the player in some way, whether it's in a form of grinding itself (the least egregious) to outright time gating (the middle ground imo) or heaven forbid item loss (crafting and having the item cease to exist). Obviously, it isn't for everyone, but it's a constant that we gotta deal with in live service games as a whole.
@@wellumm8350Yeah I really don't mind it in the long run. I've spent more time grinding for crap in destiny than Warframe and Warframe actually feels different to play with different guns instead of the archetypes that make most things feel exactly the same.
Most guns in Warframe would be Exotics in Destiny, and I don't need to hope for a 1% chance to drop an engram on top of them being locked behind DLC or worse yet, having been tied to sunset content so I need a DLC pass on top of having to grind raids for materials.
@@wellumm8350 Toxic behavior isnt unique to any specific personb but that doesn't mean we should just turn the other cheek and allow ourselv es to be treated that way. People out there love you. Be kind to yourself. You deserve better.
I stoped at fortuna when they announced ships. I loved the game but I just could not keep playing with the moving goalpost of a game that would never end
Yeah, Black Desert Online and Warframe player. I feel your pain bro, but with all of the recent changes in gaming industry, these are the only games that allow me to stay....No good games coming out at all...
I got 1000 hours and i honestly don’t have any intention of stopping any time soon. I love showing new players cool frames and weapons, playing missions with different frames is always engaging, and the movement is so good that when I try going back to other games I get bored immediately. Although since my friends left I won’t deny that I have gotten a bit lonely and depressed since going solo (which was 600 hours ago). But I have other things like making art and writing in my life to cheer me up.
Don't stop just enjoy it man. Squeeze every last drop out of it till you reach the saturation point. It was 6000 hrs for me.
What you play on my boyyyy
I'm in 2000 hours and I just can't anymore. The game just doesn't offer me anything anymore. The content I'm mainly doing is repetitive and I just don't want to crack the 1 billionth relic anymore. Don't want to do the 1 billionth cephalon lvl up mission.... It just eats too much time for me that I'd want to spend on testing new builds and playstyles, trying out different missions, yet I'm doing those tedious and boring ones I absolutely have to all the time.
I'm not mad though, I got 2k out of a f2p title. Put a good amount of money in it, had a fun clan to play with... I'm satisfied.
@@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT damnnnn
@@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT can’t we still play tho? I’d be down
13:36 And every single one of those expansions is a buggy, immersion-breaking mess that DE forgot right after releasing it, that do nothing but lock you out of main story quests and force you to grind stuff that has daily caps on progress, like standing in cetus, fortuna and daimos.
HOW FUN
Hey, i just remembered that I used to be in your clan for some time! As such, I want to thank you for the time I was able to spend with your creations even if this is funnily enough the first time i have seen your youtube videos. It was a blast showing my new player friends around your dojo and I had a great time exploring every nook and cranny of it. As such as somebody who will stick around with the game... goodbye. Or not! Who knows, what goes around comes around!
I relate so much with this video it's crazy. It reminded me why I quite, made me want to go back in, made me wish I could re experience it, made me feel like I made the right decision to quit.
I only have 2,2k hours on it
This is the video that encapsulates the Warframe experience. You yourself have been a big part of the Dojo community and taught me a lot, emphasising the good part of the games community. Very well said, Vash.
Hello Vash! I just discovered this channel through this video and i have never seen someone explain the essence of Warframe in such an in-depth and entertaining way! I haven't touched Warframe in over 3 years but i am more than convinced to hit that download button after your video, thw Warframe community owes you!
This video spoke to me on a level unlike any other wf video I've seen before. I've been pretty consistently playing this game since 2014 and have become fairly burnt out with it but I 100% believe that Warframe is worth your time and one of the best ftp games ever made.
Thank you for this. Even if I don't enjoy the game as much anymore the experiences it has given me have made my time spent well worth it.
im glad i even got 100 hrs of entertainment out of the game let alone nearly a thousand
I've gotten into this game 4 or 5 times, each time of which I've sank between 500 and 1000 hours into the game. Each time, eventually getting to the point that it felt like there wasn't anything more to do, like all that was left was doing the same thing over and over to grind minor improvements to a character. Began feeling disappointed and disinterested because of that feeling, and quit, not even thinking a single thought about the game for at least a year.
After the 2nd time of quitting the game I thought, "I remember now why I quit in the first place, I'm never going to touch this game again." Well I had that exact same thought every time I've quit the game thereafter. And yet I returned back to the game 2 or 3 times after thinking that, and a few times, I've considered returning to the game since I've last quit.
The game really is amazing, there's a reason I've gone back to it so many times. The gameplay feels so amazing and it makes you feel epic in such a way that there's a kind of nostalgia around playing Warframe that is its own kind of nostalgia somehow. Which is why I've returned to the game so many times. Yet at the same time the game is a slog through trash. It comes to the point that the gameplay doesn't feel epic anymore, and it feels like the only reason you have to play it is to grind at which point the game has lost its color; then again, is there a game that that latter statement doesn't apply to? Perhaps it's the way I play games and get addicted that is the problem there.
That said, every time I've gotten back into Warframe it felt like a fresh new experience and there were now tons of things to do. And every time I've gotten back into Warframe, figuring out what to do felt very intimidating; as it felt like there were too many things I wanted to do.
It's the burn out that changes the perspective.. even life can feel like a repetive slog towards death. When what you do becomes a mechanical thing that you do just for the outcome it's hard to enjoy. Slow down and enjoy the moment.. if you can.
You hyped me up soo much for this game!!
Fire video, +1!
Have a good week end :D
4:34 Correction: both bulletjumping (was called and worked differently back then) and coptering coexisted at the same time, along with the stamina. DE altered the bulletjump mechanic to respect the player view angle, made it more controllable and overall smoothed out the movement.
There was no bullet jump back in the day was added with the bullet jump mods coptering used to be the only way to get around, no wall latch either, back when Saryn was just press 4 nuke and excaliburs 4 was radial javelin.
Instead of bullet jump, we had more like a midair barrel every time we wanted some boost in the air when we're tired of just coptering
@@LunarEdge7 There was a time we had wall running in warframe. It looked cool but it was impractical to use because you hat to latch on the wall at certain angles.
But coptering with my dual zoren will always be a good memory.
@@LunarEdge7 i dont even remember all this, i only remember when we had super jump
The crafting times being too long is absolutely true, I crafted a warframe saw that Its build time was 3 days. I thought I should set an alarm for it, welp despite the alarm I never logged in again because I completely forgot about it. I guess MMOs arent for me
For what its worth, I feel like there's something people aren't saying to you Mr. Cowaii.
Nobody will think less of you if you *do* come back to warframe, every so often, or in five years, or anything.
Follow your heart, Praise Grofit and the Tubemen, and Dream of What You Are.
Aka, have a good one Vash Cowaii.
I stopped playing when they did the melee rework. I took a long break and came back to find that my account was literally missing a quarter of my inventory. Things vaulted when I was still playing, primes, mods, warframes wepons... I was missing my started Excalibur and the game said I had zero hours played on him. I contacted support and they said that they wouldn't give me anything because I had no evidence. You know, other than video evidence I sent with my report of me playing Excalibur when I started. I loved my time with warframe, but I can't go back and support it after that. I hope another gem will come along like this again.
Mate I’m loving finding this video, your perspective is amazing. As a fairly newer player(a year in). Devastating to see you go but can say I’ll be subscribing and going through your video catalog to learn on how to decorate my own dojo 😊 thank you. I’m looking forward to seeing what you start playing next
My new player experience several months ago was like: ok, got some story/explain missions done and now what? Any paths? Guideance? No? Okay.. I'll try this and this and played several hours. Went to a Wiki and some yt videos about how to change the Warframe, then I build a new Warframe and as you said logged out because it took some time to complete and never logged back in and instead went back to Destiny 2.
What an absolutely fair and heartwarming 'goodbye' video! I still love my space ninja game, but I love it for every point you touched on. The community is so fun and helpful and with cross-platform added that means more tenno on Hydron that I can play my shawzin for. I've not clue who you are, I just searched "warframe" to watch a video while I ate some dinner and holy heck was this good. Best wishes moving forward.
Is it too late to get in it?
@@ChickenJoe-tq6xd Never. Just ask region chat if you're lost or confused.
@@silentd9078 I just started and the combat feels great, any things to know before I start journey?
You have hundreds of hours of content ahead of you. I'm outside rn so can't give much advice lmao. I'll just add that if you're feeling lost go check out Brozime on youtube, he has a series of guides for newcomers. Have fun Tenno!
the farm will always take its toll. Veteran here, yes i also play when an update comes out but soon drop it, what made me play for so long was my friends, now that i am solo, it isnt fun as before.
Awesome video and commentary. My favorite part of the game has been collecting all and trying all sorts of different weapons and making pea shooters into destroyers of worlds like you said! This channel and its content have evolved so much and it is amazing to see!
New player experience here. The complexity of these games is why I don't bother anymore. Looking up guides and forum posts to just get a basic understanding of what is going on is a no go. Warframe looks amazing and I played it for a couple days... but it has so much going on that it felt like work.
I started playing like 2 years ago but i only played it bc of the nice graphics and got bored fast but the last few weeks my friend started playing so i actually started playing seriously and im already addicted to it, the time to craft itens i dont like but its something that make me more anxious to play again, its like the day before Christmas when you were a kid, i cant wait to wake up enter the game claim the item and go test it out, the game is a bit confusing at the start and its gonna take some time before start talking with the community bc there is so much content till the end game that if you're an "casual" player its gonna take a while but from my experience till now the game only gets better and alr on my 150 hours the grind i did wasn't anoying obviously i cant speak for the more advanced stuff but till now the game never disappointed me and hope continues like that, loving it.
I’ve quit the game after a long 2,000+ hours of playtime. During that time I’ve met some of the greatest people and immersed myself in this amazing community, I can honestly say I don’t regret the time I’ve spent playing. I might come back one day when Gauss Prime comes out or cross-save does, but until then I think this is a good place to leave the game. Thank you for everything, DE.
Are you coming back now?
@@thedude232 yep, moving to pc too 💪
@@cringe9047 Awwweeesssome
@@cringe9047 u tryna carry me?
@@carsonnak4842 could be fun lol, though I can’t promise I’ll actually be of much help while I’m still getting used to the new control scheme
Great Video, I´ve been playing warframe since 2017 and you
summarized everything I could think of, the great and the bad. Can see that you put a lot of thought in making the video.
You made me start trying Dojo/orbiter decoration and I had quite fun so far (thats a lie, I wasted so much time, I need help) anyway ty for all the guides ^^
I was literally thinking about coptering about 2 hours ago and came to youtube to search for a video tutorial to see if someone back in the day made one, for cool nostalgia, and this popped up on my front page (never seen or heard of you before) thought I'd watch it on my way through and oh my god you talked about coptering.
"Guys, oh my god he knows! He said COPTERING!"
Excellent way to say professionally say you are done and exit the game. I hope good things for you, and I appreciate the review!
I never really followed the game that closely, but the "negatives" section cracked me up because that was exactly what burned me out on the game and led to me quitting after playing it pretty consistently every night for about 2 years
I've played this game for thousands of hours as well. It was indisputably the longest running 'trusted developer that keep their promises' and the best player friendly implementation of 'free-to-play', probably to this day. Unfortunately, I'm one of those people that loved the original game being the instance based mission running thing and grew increasingly more disappointed when they've started implementing more and more unique content, having nothing to do with the base game, but still mandatory for progression. And them being unable to fulfill their promise of Railjack interconnecting the space content with the instance content. It got to a point where I realized I'm not enjoying a minute of my playtime anymore and I keep playing only because I've already invested so much time into it. I'll never come back to this game. But I suppose for the most part, it was time well spent.
I'm the same way, mostly.
Duviri was cool, but what I really wanted was more instanced warframe gameplay, and the game hasn't really been about that for like... 3-4 years.
the sad reactions when you ask anyone at DE or the reddit about "but what about content and lore about the warframes in my game called warframe?"
NO ENJOY VOIDKID, IT'S F2P, YOU DON'T GET TO COMPLAIN.
Is imo the biggest detriment
What do you mean keeping their promises?! I can remember multiple times the community was thorn apart because of their bad decisions and updates. The Hijack update is a great example. The community managers have an ok relationship with the community but the actual devs are forced to do, what their upper managers are telling them.
NO ONE wanted Hijack in that state. NO ONE wanted mechs in this game. And now the newest content... it is all so disconnected from the initial view of the game.
@@SacredDaturaathe game does have more instanced gameplay... they've now released the Zariman and the Albrecht Labratory tileset within the span of just a year and a half...which each have their own new unique mission types, as well. Only caveat is that they're locked behind TNW, but that's nothing new either. Lua was locked behind Second Dream. The Grineer Fortress was locked behind War Within. Where are you coming from with this?
I know it's a really big game with tons of stuff to do, but I couldn't even get to 1k hours. I'm now at 311 hours and kinda bored because I completed my goal. I created a monster out of my Baruuk Prime, his damage is so high that I don't need anything else and he's the most fun to play out of all frames. Now I'm collecting mother tokens for Naberus event and I have no idea what to do later.
I think the grind aspect really shouldn't be understated. It's the reason I quit 2k hours in. If you leave the game for awhile it takes forever to catch back up. 2k hours was enough for endgame in 2014. I'm not surprised you have 10k now. The problem with the grind is that you can pay to bypass most of it. New frame is released with horrendous grind requirements? Just pay 325 plat instead. (That's $17 btw.) Yes, you can technically trade other players for plat too, but you're already trading other players for plat so you can buy mods (especially rivens) & prime parts, warframe slots, reactors/catalysts, riven slots... and QoL like if you want to rush builds.
It's either grind for parts or grind for currency... or pay real money.
Yes and slots and Forma, are everything in this game.
Slots for each Warframe weapon Companion, Vehicle, and Rivens
Then of course Forma. "The F Word" 1 Forma takes 23 hours to craft. So many weapons need at least 3 or 4 Forma. So to build your weapons and frames it will take 3-4 days. If you're trying to load out Sevagoth. 2 and 1/2 weeks to make all the forma required to make a build for Sevagoth.
I mean time is money in a sense literally so people with jobs who have expendable income can actually play the game for 30 mins and not spend 8 hours a day grinding. Its debatable but I think the grind is good. I work 8 hours a day and i don't think I can grind anymore like I was in highschool but i still do want to try the new things. Its PVE so the "pay to win" aspect is fine IMO since nobody plays Lunaro/conclave anyway.
13:00 true at this point i just actually started doing dante unbound stuff two weeks ago, and we're getting new dlc in two weeks
Thanos voice @ DE:
*_Perhaps I treated you too harshly_*
Imo, the devs blew off the vets with the new war by that i meant the constant delay of new war for literally two years. they kept that on to the point that the game was so dull many players eventually quit and grew to hate the game and when its released it was so sloppy, its great but its not worth the 2 years wait. Zariman quest was a nice touch but it felt more like a chore rather than a good grind, I literally came back during this time for a maximum of 3-4 months and I was bored of it again.
I'm glad you enjoyed the game a lot. Its sad but reasonable for a player to leave the game as well sometimes we just have to stop and move on to do other things. I do though hope you hop back on sometime later down the line or keep tabs on the game don't just drop it out right like probably a lot of people would do. Also if I can make a suggestion Destiny 2 if the D2 is correct wouldn't be the greatest choice for a new comer money wise. I only say this cause of exprience, I dropped off after Beyond light and missing two major DLC which also for some reason Bungie decided to add in a bunch of smaller stuff as "paid content" that really stuff that should be ingame already. I think Warframe is the best free to play game, while having problems the fun, experience, and community out weigh those problems much more. Compare to Destiny 2 where while there is a community it more tries to hold on to older players while pushing away newer players who don't have the money. There a few things you can do in the game but without money it's gonna be hard to really attach yourself to it. If you do still want to get in it I hope you have lots of fun and best of luck your gonna need it.
you kidding with Destiny 2 trying to hold on to older players? Bungies pretty much abandoned so many aspects of that game in favor of development of their newest game, it feels more like theyre squeezing every last drop of money they can out of the playerbase. Like the new game looks nice, but its a real slap in the face for a great many D2 players
@@notaliablename2538 you just proved my point at them trying to hold onto older D2 players. Again it's that sunk cost falicy and FOMO which keeps older players in the game but with this realization that their getting squeezed for cash they'll probably start to leave.
haven't touched it since Feb 2015.
been in a bit of a gaming rut lately and redownloading this one simply because of your video.
good stuff, man.
my problem with the game is DE not playing and understanding their game, so essentially making clueless choices
sometimes going on actual crusades to nerf things, then releasing outright OP things, like some kind of bipolar phase
can't we just have fun with the broken? the game is supposed to feel like a power trip when you essentially maul 99% of the enemies
warframes are scary, their arsenal is scary
Exactly what I've been saying for years. Only time Nerfing is necessary is in PVP, but since PVP is a Ghost town that hasn't been demolished yet. There's no need for nerfing our shit.
@@skylarmccloud4080 thank you!!!! Exactly it's pve why should things be nerfed its not PvP and this is coming from someone who maxed conclave standing it's been dead for years like dude before cross progress was thing
It's been almost a year since this came out, and a little over a year since I finally got back into Warframe for good this time. I remember watching this when it came out and that's when I knew that, despite its flaws, Warframe would be a game that sticks with me for a long time. Cut to a year later and I'm happy to say I was right, and even though I've watched pretty much every review I could find, I still think this is my favorite review for the game I've ever seen. I hope anyone looking to get into Warframe is able to see this video and find the way they want to play before they lose interest
If you compare it to 50-100 euro/dollar games which are released with many bugs warframe has much more to offer for free!!!
Im convinced there is no game that has a community as wholesome. Yeah ive met a few dickheads but 99% of the player base are really kind and polite people and that incentivizes returning the kindness.
Few days ago someone in trade chat said they were depressed and wanted company. I messaged them, cheered them up a bit and they said "bless your soul" 😢 they thought i helped them but they actually made my whole day.
He had hair when he started playing Warframe
I loved the movement and asthetics in this, but the grind immediately turned me off, so I never got past the first handful of beginner levels.
If they ever make something similar that's just a one-time purchase, I'm in.
14:10 It is amazing how diversified the game is but it is also bloated at this point with not many connections between the parts of the game. The starchart nodes need to be reduced and the openworld parts need to be more fused to the rest of the game. I hope They'll focus on that after Duviri.
5:12 * flashbacks nightmare to the universal vacuum discussions back in the days * Still not implemented so ppl only use the immortal infested cat x).
I never stop playing this game but I do play a LOT less. Like the new incarnum farm I just farm 1 weapon per week because i don't have the time nor the motivation to farm like a madman. Still enjoy so much the gameplay as well as the art direction.
Once I got to MR25 or whatever (it was the max you could get back then) I decided I had beaten the game and moved on. That was 2500 hrs in lol. I know they've released a hell of a lot of content, but in my mind I've already beaten it, no need to return, enjoyed my time, time to move on :)
Imagine if SWTOR was of this quality
Game is overwhelming for me, even if I was playing it for almost 1 year in ~2013, when I wanted to come back around 2 years ago, I didn't know what to do and my builds and cards were shitty.
Honestly the fact that a game can keep you interested for almost 10000 hours is amazing. Saying a game is bad because you got bored of it after a literal year's worth of playtime is crazy.
I have 2215.9 hours in this game and last time I played it is 2015. Here's the kicker, I started in 2014... I check up on it every once in a while, but I will never launch it again, because I have a family now, I cannot afford to go back.
It's easily the best game I have ever played, but also by far the most addicting. When I was playing it I was recommending it to everyone, telling people to stick to it because it gets real good when you get used to it. I said that because even in 2015 this game was HUGE and had a lot of content and it was hard for a new player to get into, now it's several times bigger and as much as I'm curious I will not go back and I will not recommend the game, because either they will get overwhelmed with content and quit or get addicted af, there's no middle ground, once you're playing Warframe you're living warframe, no other game matters.
Great game, 11/10, but so is heroin to a junkie.
The biggest thing holding this game back in my opinion is having to lvl up all different items to gain lvl xp. I probably had couple thousand hours in this game and wasnt even half way to the max lvl because I just couldnt force myself to lvl up all the boring stuff
I've stopped playing it, along with all games in general two years ago. Got just 6k hours. But it was enough, for me to quit all of them all together.
I am proud of it.
Everytime someone says they want to try warframe, I tell them that unless they want to quit their job, and commit to a life of warframe. Don't try it. The game is good, it is addictive, it is also a soul sucking pit of never ending despair and google searches.
It definitely takes a lot of time, but is nowhere near as bad as other Live Service games. You can go months without playing and not miss barely anything. Seems almost every game these days need weekly or daily attendance, with the influx of battlepasses, time-gated progression, and limited-time events.
Warframe replaced the Alerts system with Nightwave, which makes it easier to get Nitain Extract etc. without being constantly online. It's still a battlepass, but is completely free, and has no unique rewards that won't come back later.
I'm surprised you didn't have your own footage of coptering. I guess I started playing Warframe really early. I got 500hours in and I stopped playing because it was so good, it was addicting. A difficult choice but a very good one for me.
DONT PLAY IT ITS TOO GOOD YOU'LL GET ADDICTED I'M SERIOUS
Where was you 7 going on 8 years ago..
(sniff sniff)
Anyway I'll sell you this CD Player for some Platinum. wts a Dollar Store Walkman 500 pl.. (sniff sniff) aight 200 pl (he said scratching his dope marks)
@@skylarmccloud4080 I remember getting almost 1k plat for a frost prime.
Thank you so much for this video! You summed everything up quite nicely.
Just because its addictive doesn't mean its good.
Just because it’s good doesn’t mean it’s addictive.
exactly. The game is a mess with a lot of flashy elements, but you don't really have fun, you just feel progressing and grinding all the time
@@ggadams639 Sometimes... you make the fun together with the friends you made along the way.
real and true.
It's not a bad game, but it also is not one I would recommend.
It's like, coke tastes nice. Would I recommend it? No.
There's just one reason I still care about Warframe: I really love the art, the art direction, and the universe. This is the same reason I still care about Riot Games despite League of Legends being worse than many kinds of torture.
3:54 I member.
5:48 nice blue color scheme.
13:12 more importantly, the eternal beta is why cool game systems get introduced, then promptly abandoned, and there is no particular meaningful path through the solar system or a reason to do all the missions.
13:33 gameplay diversity would be a more accurate name for this section
Developer outreach is a real thing. Im personally responsible for why every build uses prime sure footed 😅 also a few vuban changes and that little sound eximus make when there overgaurd break. That's all me.
12:20 no way you forgot about the Necramech grind😢
This game is just a mess....system over system over system, ive tried several times to get into it and it is too much
Played a lot at release. Then once or twice tried to go back, but it just becomes such a turn down when I pick a mission on my level and then get stomped several times and I don't understand why. Or I need a material or last piece for new warframe and obviously it won't drop. The massive size of the game and available activities does not help at all.
warframe COULD BE a really great game but the greedy shit is what ruins it. they make most things absurd to farm or you couuuld spend $40 to get it.
It's ok to walk away from forever games
You stay for long enough, you begin to be resentful towards it
This game has no point.
The point is whatever you want it to be. My friend just likes collecting Primes. I like optimizing builds. It's all down to what you want out of the game.
@@eelshark12345That's the curse of a lot of modern games. They want to cater to everyone. What suffers is quality. I think the best days of WF were over 5years ago.
That comes with the mmo genre
I tried getting into the game multiple times but I just don't have the... intrinsic? motivation to keep playing. Also, the 'unofficial' movement tech reminds me of Apex Legends which also has a bunch of movement tech that wasn't planned by the devs. They've started embracing it though, they even used some in the newest trailers.
I’m a few months late but I’m just gonna say my biggest issue is theres no End Game. There are no raids or hard dungeons. Also the Grind for the Mecha is ridiculous fuck that and you need it for most of the newer content.
I've been playing Warframe on and off since beta and i gotta say, your points are absolutely valid.
For me personally tho, the only real downside of the game is that its SOO damn huge. That may sound dumb, but for me it can be (and has been) kinda overwhealming to get back to the game after some period of time and feeling like i have no clue how any of this works. There is however a little saving grace for most things. That beeing the fact that i can still just go use my old gear and play some missions having fun whithout having to think twice about any of the new stuff. You CAN get into that and it sure is fun, but you dont need to, if you dont want to.
i played warframe for 2 years straight, however i got to the end game and all i did was become a prime trader, i would spend hours waiting in the trade area for sells, while watching utube vids......my mental health took a downturn at this point, warframe made me feel alone, i decided to stop, i still have my account and every now and then i get the idea of picking it up again, but it just feels like a endless depressing grind
My nigga you were fucking prime reading for endgame, you've got literally no one else to blame for that but yourself
Gotta admit the grind is painful because grinds are locked behind grinds which are also locked behind other grinds
I briefly got into warframe on the ps4 many years ago and this made me want to try it again on my steam deck this time around
i don't usually have games that are above 500+ hours in and i rarely get the time to do anything entertaining in the past few days but my entire week-ends seems to be occupied with this game now, it's so addicting and i've already crossed 700 hour mark just playing it in weekends
13:52 Why wasn't I informed of this?
When did Warframe get mechs?
This is y u watch tennocon
Heart of Deimos expansion, 2022 or 21
Hey you to thank you for the vids loved ur multishot / range video with making people lagg xD
Good video. I finally dove in after being interested in Warframe for a long time. Having a blast!
Warframe during lockdown restored some of my faith in humanity. Played with some really great people from around the world. We all lift together
Awesome video brother. Make great points and gave credit where credit is due. Excited to jump into this game