WHY DO MY SUBWOOFERS STINK? - PART 2
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- A few of y’all brought it to my attention that I didn’t finish this part of what I was saying lol so here it is 😎
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When you slowly turn your volume higher and higher pay attention to when your subs 'flatten out'. Meaning when the subs no longer get louder. THIS ... for sure is sign of clipping. You're welcome. No charge 😁
I just started playing JL w3 10s and it was like 3 minutes of max volume I thought I smelt fire lol
Just experienced this exactly today
Forget volume 10 I'm going Volume 15 slamin😏👍👍👍
Damn right fuck😂
What about NEW sub(s) smelling without any clipping/distortion? Likely V.C. glue breaking in? >>
My 5K RMS sub [DNR] is only a few days old so it stinks when if pound it hard (zero clipping) presumably BCUZ the glue on its voice coil is brand new. Btw, I have FOUR clipping/distortion detectors or anti-clipping/distortion assurances which I'll refer to as "distortion detectors" (1. Taramps remote distortion detector, 2. A.C. LC7i distortion detector, 3. both an accurate DMM and an electrical set-up set-up to ensure zero clipping by having the ability to produce a clean 200% of subs max RMS watt power (10K), and lastly as my fourth distortion detector.. 4. my trained ear =]
Thank you. I was wondering why my brand new 15 gold platinum was smelling a little even when I have the volume low . Makes sense about the glue heating up 👌👌👌👌
I have the same problem with an Orange guitar amplifier.
Yesterday started to smell little funny, like cheap plastic.
So i tought the speaker get burned.
But still working well.
This make sense, cause it's the first time That i turn up the volume above 20%
I recently bought a new sub and its smelling even tho its not clipping what should i do?
I have one used and one new Memphis m6 12 inch and even when I enter my car it smells like glue or something of some sort
That's exactly what I wanted to know.. thankyou... I'm like dumbfounded. Spot on big guy .
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JP I have a quick question. Is the x6.5v2 recommended for SEALED enclosures. The Sundown website says .15 sealed .3 ported. I have a 2010 avalanche. I want to do 6 sealed under backseat and keep everything functional. I don't believe I have the space for ported because seat brackets. If it is recommended for sealed enclosure I want to pick up 6 to 8 from you. Thanks in advance.
@@MrMarcopolo81 your asking the wrong guy.. JT at high voltage installed everything... All this guy does is sell stuff and charge for autographs
Everyone Is Equal how does he charge for autographs?
I make mine stink so I have an excuse to get more powerful subs
If ur subs are stinking ur power supply is probaly not sufficient or ur jus sending clipped signal to ur amp or our of ur amp
@@dustinureyes or the subs could be brand new or overpowered
I recently got a JL W1 12 on a nice box. With a 500 JL AmP . Latley I've been bumping and my 12 been smelling weird 😕 . The guy at car toys told me I might have damaged my new 12 any clues??
My sub smelled of electrical burn. I turned it off right away. Used a Multimeter to set the gain via formula It was stinking at 55 volts and according to formula I should have been around 33.7 volts..
Ok I have a question that you may have had experience with, say you have a sub or subs who’s specs call for a certain size enclosure and a certain tuning frequency. What kind of effects or problems do you start to run into by increasing cubic feet of the enclosure? What about tuning for a lower frequency? Can there be advantages? Anyway I appreciate your efforts to educate and help people. So many are quick to speak right up these days and tell someone they are wrong. I like to hear how everyone does things, then I can try and use all that info to see what I can come up with.
I just set up a 12" Vega wired to 1Ω in a ported enclosure hooked up to a Scar RP800. I let it break in a bit for about a week and then yesterday we jammed out for a solid 10 mins then I started smelling the coils. I was sorta surprised. The sub is rated to 1300W peak and then the amp and head unit were only up to 75% power. Am I over powering the sub or am I clipping. The audio sounded spot on, honestly just as good if not better than at low volume. If the amp was clipping then a cap would help with that right? I'm going to wire it down to 4Ω next chance I get.
What would you suggest we use for a music source. I'm using the TH-cam music app. I also listen to the songs you guys use as well on the app.
Mine was just smelling but not clipping but I had the switch that you can switch it to 0db 6db or 12db turn it on zero and it stopped smelling
My son just bought a couple of Sundown 12” SD-4 neo subwoofers. I’ve been doing this for 20 something years and very familiar with subs but this one I havn’t figured out. As long as it’s the recommended sealed enclosure I’m getting a rattle but when playing free air it is fine. The tensil leads are good and so is the spider and surround etc. I checked the dust cap and all good. No cracking on the basket and box had no rattle at all with any other sub.
It only does it when in the box. Any ideas or has anyone else had this problem with this sub. I see a couple of comments below with someone having same problem. Any help would be appreciated!!! Thanks for the awesome video. I’ve never ran into that issue neither but I’m not running kicker.
1000 % right bro. This method works if one can stay focused.where do you play your music from?
Maybe in that box rise video you can discuss having a proper box size for your subs?
Ok I'm newer to the bigger competitive audio systems and I just ordered the incriminator audio Tyrant 15 from you guys and a down 4 sound HD3 single 15 enclosure to go with it and I have ordered all kinds of stuff to monitor everything from temperature monitoring, voltage, amperage, wattage and ohm meter for the dash literally to monitor everything in the setup from the alternator to the back I'm trying to make sure I do everything right being that I ordered everything to get into competitive audio trying to be ready for the XS power show in July anyway you said something about dirty music where do I get the absolute best quality music available are there certain platforms that I use to download or are you talking about specific rebassed music??? Can you please elaborate on this
will under powering make them smell or hurt it? 1 10 inch DB wdx G2 sub. says that its rated for 1000 rms with max of 2000 rms. i know that the max is only small burst. anything will help. i dont want to damage it. ported box in a 2015 beetle hatchback
You ever figure it out? Similar situation here
Could possibly damage the amp never the subs tho
if not youtube where should i get my music source from?
Had this happen to my 10 inch skar today!! Was smoking hard out of the port, and was hot to the touch. Wonder if the sub is still good. Freaked me out enough to pull the sub and check the box for fire.
Did you figure this out?
I play a 40hrz test tone off you tube. Turn volume on radio till door speakers distort Easter to hear in words then I bass boost up to max set crossover to a little higher than what's needed to play the. 40hz tone then the gain I'll eaze it up till it starts to clip. You will hear it then I'll back down till it stops then everything is set turn volume on radio down till words are clear and beat the he'll out of them
I'd like to add this, some might disagree. Try to listen for distortion on smaller cheaper speakers. When you start to kind of hear the sound getting crappy ( cracking or sounding like a heavy metal guitar) turn the volume back a bit til it sounds cleaner. Then turn your volume to it's lowest setting not 0 as zero should be no sound. At volume 1 Assuming thats your lowest ask yourself does the volume go from silent to kinda loud? If it sounds a bit loud then turn your gains down slightly. By matching your amp gains to both the highest volume an lower volume of your headunit you will most likely avoid any clipping issues. The best way is always using a device, but this should in most cases keep your system safe until it can be checked properly. I've done this for many year's when tuning by ear. Yes it will most likely not give you all the bass you want ,but will provide the headroom to not destroy your investment.
Does the same go for interior speakers, I got a new amp with more power for my 6x9. Music was good playing for a while. At the end of the song, I started smelling something, and heating turn down went away but came back
I have a 1500-bd wired to a t1 12 inch sub had it for a few days and playing it at a low volume it’s stinking my car up and also seen some smoke come out the box don’t know if the amp is overpowering the sub or what’s really going on could use some advise
I don't know what mine is doing get it up to about 31/50 volume which is when the sub actually starts kicking. Its not distorting or anything even when it's at max(50) volume. Its just letting off a smell I would say it smells electrical. Any idea? Normal? It's a Sony shelf stereo, with an 8 inch sub. Always listing with music in HQ.
Great vid jp!! Any of your fans still running old school solo-x kicker suds??
I used a dd1 and they still smell. The amp I have is only rated for 1,500 watts rms. I got a fosgate T1500 and I got 2 massive kilox 1000 watts rms each. I’m setting them at a -5 db then a 0db . I can’t figure it out 🙁
Nice vid jp!!!! Not everyone can aford a dd1 and you giving those people this info is a great thing! keep it up!
Look at EMF TH-camr or BAREVIDS as well.. they will tell you how you can build your own clipping detect, or distortion detect..
I bought some 12" boss and when I play it passing 5 min it starts to smell weird could it be because their brand new
cedrick ochoa boss is garbage
@@elijahrobbins1005 you'd be surprised
Yeah, I noticed a very bad burnt smell coming from my sub that shit was blown I mean I’m pretty surprised it lasted this long. It was a $20 Jensen sub from Walmart. I also did notice some smoke coming out of it when I just said fuck it I’m gonna send it because it was already trashed.
Where do you get your music at, and what has better sound quality flash drive, Bluetooth, or CD.
Did I ruin my speakers after I smelled that certain smell??? I just drove home from the shop
Hey guys, i just bought a DD 712f (1500 rms) and powering with T1500bdcp. I tuned amp to clipping at volume 30. But my dumbass installed the sub (in spec box) and immediately turned it to volume 32 with a bass heavy song for about 5 seconds. Coil started smelling (but not really bad like a blown sub, just enough for me to notice it’s getting hot), so I turn the volume down slowly and let it cool.
So basically I over powered sub (because Rockfords are underrated) with dirty clipped power. But I’ve been playing it below volume 30 for a few days now and it seems perfectly fine.
Should I worry that i lessened the subwoofers life? Or was it the glue on coil “breaking in”?
Thanks you guys
JP, youtube sound quality is the same regardless of video quality now. I actually read up on this a while back when researching modern digital audio formats. Google had figured out that people are able to detect poor audio with extreme ease, and are comparatively ok with shoddy video as long as they can tell what's going on. I get 100% of my music from youtube, but I'm also not participating in audio exhibitions.
To recap, you can use 144p for audio in 2019, and it sounds the same as 4K. Enjoy your new knowledge, sire.
I have a 2500w db driver wdx g2 and its being ran on 250w mtx terminator 251 and its stinking up my whole trunk with the foul odor of a skunk almost. Sub isnt hot nor the amp. What could this smell be none lf my other subs do this
I ordered a SA-15 from you this morning. Thanks for the vids!
Ok I have a question, I set my gain with the SMD DD 1 just below clip, is that setting on the gain the same for 1 ohm and 2 ohm subwoofers?
That's too funny, smell o meter. But can I ask you a question about what you mentioned on your source of music. I'm sure everybody's cases different but I get the same type of sound clarity from my USB and even certain music from TH-cam. But why is the damn radio sound so awful. I've never tried to understand or even research that.
What is the difference between aluminum voice coil and copper wire voice coil I build and customize my own subwoofers I just barely got through customizing a 15 I put a 1 ohm aluminum voice coil and finished my sub so when I went to hook it up I noticed it started stinking pretty bad I got it hooked up to a Hifonics 2400 watt amp and I'm sure I connected and started everything bright right please help me on this and thank you
$20 multimeter. Find out your amp recommended voltage output. Get a 50hz sound file on a CD or however you can playing thru your headunit with the gain all the way down. Insert multimeter positive & negative into your amp speaker input then slowly increase gain until you reach the recommended voltage. That's your clipping point. JL audio has a more detailed description on TH-cam but it's that easy. No more smelly subwoofer.
Ok I have a question, I set my gain with the SMD DD 1 just below clip, is that setting on the gain the same for 1 ohm and 2 ohm subwoofers?
What about a brand new sub? Ive had them smell a few weeks then never again i always thought i was just burning off extra glue
I have 2 kickers CompQ 850 watts RMS at 2 ohm and powered from a Soundigital 2000.1 evo at rated 2000 watts rms at 1ohm and 1100 watts at 2 ohm all cables are JL audio 4 gage..and my subs start to smell like burn and I have turn it down..is my amplifier to much for the subs???
Is it better to have your stereo eq bass all the way down and turn amp gain up or the other way around
Cd sound quality is the best I never play any thing other than a phone call thru my phone I still use cds or dvds.and my own slowed and mash ups using THE DENON PRIME 4controler wich have the best sound card in a controller
I get a bad smell, I've got 800 watt rms rated quality Rockford subs and a 800 watt rms pioneer amp, my subs stink at 700 watts peak on music. But then I connect my slim 400 watt rms sealed box and run that at full power no problems, obviously no smell because its sealed but it works fine, also both boxes at 1 ohm. I don't understand how my slim sub can work fine at double the power but my bigger subs stink.
I dont think I'd have this problem because I've had my amp gains set with an oscilloscope but would I smell it still even with my subs in the trunk and trunk being separated from the cabin?
@THELIFEOFPRICE Hey JP I got my LPF @35hz is this a bad idea for my Amplifier and Subs
what if you have a clip light and it’s not clipping out you can still smell it
I bought brand new subs a year ago from Wal-Mart and I only smelt them one day I didn't leave my window cracked and it was 98 degrees. Outside other than that never and don't let your buddy's tell you it's just the new because if it don't smell like that when you pulled it out the box then it shouldn't smell while playing
What's the best bang for the buck reliable oscilloscope?
The $20 kit you put together works perfect for amp dialing.
My max volume before distortion is around 25, I usually play it at 22.(with loudness off) am I good to turn the loudness on to get that deeper bass at say volume 15
🤦🏿♂️No....loudness is not good for volume turnt all the way up...it’s good for when the volume is at half
What about sub break-in? That's a topic I would like for u to speak about
Certain manufacters require it but jergurnaut it the only one I know of just read the papers that come with it
Tell people where to get quality music..rebassed and such
If I have 2 12zvx skar, can I use 2 different amplifiers to power each, I have 1 hifonics brx 2000w and 1 hifonics brx 25000w , is this possible??
Always play your head unit 75% i use to always play mine at 41/50 then i brought it down to 37 and it never stinks. It will get hot but never stinks so i know I’m somewhere in the save zone of prolonging my sub
I got a question my amp and my subs are getting hot ? I have 2 evl skars 12 and 2000 skar rp amp nothing big
I have a zvx12 d1 in a ported box (2.65cu.ft) 48in port area, 20" long rectangle port. I have a skar RP1500.1 running at 1 ohm and it stinks after 15 min of high volume. I found the sweet spot as far as volume goes to avoid the stink but I thought this set up wouldn't over power the sub. Any ideas to why my sub will smell?
I remember when i watched this video freaking out about tuning my gains and stinky subs and such. I did well... for a first timer I truly did well.
I set my amp with a multimeter like some people showed here on TH-cam. Watts x ohms ÷ sq rt, and my sub smells still
Probably getting clipping signal from head unit or just get an oscilloscope there cheap
Say if i have a sundown 7.5 k amp and i only want to push my subs 2k rms per sub how woukd i go about doing that w out any tools like a dd1 or anything and also where does the bass knob come into play
So what music app has the best sound quality if u don't mind me asking an what would u recommend to use
Don't use an app. Go to basshead music websites like DJ Rusticals to download your favorite bass music in its highest quality.
Rite on brother thanks for the info will do
Apple Music has excellent SQ. The best way to enjoy music in a car for audiophiles is a fiio digital audio player with hi res lossless audio but you would need an SQ system to fully enjoy it.
my system is too loud to set by ear, especially using those test tones
Hey JP this is just an honest assessment you're an honest businessman because most companies wouldn't care they want you to blow your stuff so you'll buy more good on you thanks
They also stink because they know you like or hate the smell.
still interested in the box aspect of things
Price,
I have (1) Orion HCCA152 powered by (1) Orion XTR2500.1Dz XTR. I have no equipment to test it. I have my gain set between 1/2 and 3/4. I blew my first coil and Orion sent me a re-cone kit. I put it all back together and it's been about 2 months now. I really only listen to it going back and forth to work (aprox 40 min ea way). I started to smell that smell and turned it off immediately. I turn everything on and my amp goes it to protect mode just about the same time you would hear the speaker kick on (even with no volume). I have hooked up another woofer and it works fine. I hook it back up to my HCCA152 and the amp goes back into protect mode. Why does it keep doing this? I would guess the sub is blown, but i cant figure out why i keep blowing them since I am not even nearly using the full potential of the amp. Seriously, the gain is a pinch over half.... I am debating if it's just the woofer and purchasing the DS18 Hooligan x15.2D instead. What do you think?
im not price but i can say orion amps are extremely powerful . you might not need any gain at all . any bit of gain could be putting distortion into your system.half the gain up can be a quick death sentence for your speaker. as far as your hcca 152 it may be possible that 1 out of your 4 terminals to you voice coils may not be connected ,or not recieving power, like a severed tinsel lead. if you only have 3 terminals on the speaker recieving power it will cause your amp to do crazy things, examine your tinsel leads and terminal connections on the speaker. good luck
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Ok I have a question, I set my gain with the SMD DD 1 just below clip, is that setting on the gain the same for 1 ohm and 2 ohm subwoofers?
@@Catholic1391 yes, its pretty much the same, you can probably add just alittle more gain to the higher ohm load because its drawing less power from your amp
Ok well where do you get good music
They just don't like them low lows after a while haha
You cant put the smoke back in wires, Can the stink be put back in a speaker? lol
I wonder if i bad head unit can send a bad signal to the amp
Could you make like a part 3 when you are talking about sub enclosures for example, What happens if you put a subwoofer in a box that is too small/big.
Emf audio has videos on that topic.
They will stink if no showering is performed 😂😂😂
So I think I understand but I've had this stereo for well over a year nothing has changed all the sudden I turn it up halfway and I can smell stink I don't know sundown essay 12
THELIFEOFPRICE JP I Rather play my Subwoofers at Volume 7 🔊🔊🔊
It's crazy how clueless sum people are on certain things, it blows my mind.. people have no self control and common sense, then after things blow they find someone else to blame, or the company sucks or my amp was faulty.. people don't hold themselves accountable for there own mistakes.. I guess if they have money to throw away then fine. I work hard for my money and always take very good care of my stuff, and I teach my son the same.. they sell a cheap oscope on ebay for like $30, it's not the best at all but I've used one until I got a nice one
Everyone else says it’s not that it’s just the glue ? Although I paid a shop 12k for focal & Moscone’ 7krms the sub is only 600rms as it it’s amp but the sub just won’t ever stop smelling ?
I like that smell-0-meter
Dude your 100% right on garbage muzic! I cant believe how bad my coils get stinky on bad remixes. Its because the remix is already clipping right off the get go. So yall beware streaming off TH-cam!!
You should do a video playing the song the illest by far east movement hardest hit ever with my jack hammers
My experience and how work on car audio esp subwoofers...playing in halfway in first time and let the coil move in 20 or 30 min....D4S👍👍👍👍👍👍,that how i do....different people u know
U can use a voltmeter to check watts and ohms..most 1000 watt amps be lucky to do 200-250 watts...if u run it 80% of max it will last forever...and never get hot..never turn anything to the maximum...
Lmfao the amps he sells do more than rated no 1000 watt amp on d4s does less that rated usually will do more than rated lol and yes always max put ur system u jus need clean power an alot of it big amp =big alt
dustin only if u know what you're doing u can max it out..of course the amplifier that he sells will do rated power but most don't..they won't be burning up if they know what you're doing
You are the best jp
360p is video pixel related, not audio. file ....320kbps can still be achieved if video resolutions are low....
VOLTMETER!!! Use a voltmeter. Also go to Sonic Electronix you tube page titled "How to set amp gain to match lower RMS subwoofers?" give you all the calculations you need to do so...
With box rise, a good talk about is on this youtubers' page Barevids. He's in New Zealand but good with amp repairs and tutorials..
Most people don't care to learn the technical stuff that's the problem.. people just wanna get it playing as fast as they can and crank it.. lol I'm subscribed to barevids, a lot of good information.. he even shows/tells u how to make a clipping detection tool.. not ideal but it works
Ok I have a question, I set my gain with the SMD DD 1 just below clip, is that setting on the gain the same for 1 ohm and 2 ohm subwoofers?
@@Catholic1391 yes it should as long as you are using the correct tracks/ tones per gain set or overlap
What's a good quality music source???????????????????
I used a voltage meter to set my gains, recommended by car audio fabrication. Is that not correct? Been working fine just over a year now, and on my way home I smelled them for about a minute after playing for 30+ mins. Maybe I need to re adjust? Maybe it peaked? Everything is kicker, installed by me.
Sub: solo baric L7 12” ported kicker box
Amp: kicker 800.1 class D turned up slightly over a quarter on gains
Thoughts?
Also the sub is 4ohm DVC dropped to 2 Ohms if I’m not mistaken. Again it’s been just over a year.
In the DD-1 manual, where it says "Track 3 will ensure maximum sound quality, Track 7 will result in a louder system, Track 5 is a compromise. Your choice.", which do you recommend? I set my gains with a DD-1 and still had stinky subs on certain songs and volume levels.
Danny Jobin I used -10 and my subs was smelly after about 15 minutes. On -5 never had a smell or anything
I’ve got the Logitech Z625 and I’ve had them for about 3 months, for some reason even at low volume, they still smell
get some better speakers, cinema subs are far better! SVS PB16 Ultra, McCauley M421, Bassboss Kraken Quad 21, Procella Audio V21, etc.. pair it up with good satelites or cinema gear satelites.. it will rock! Enjoy, responsibly.
Can you please do a demo on skar 12 sdr thanks jp
Chad Gardee save up more money an get an EVL. You will thank me.
Save up more money and leave skar and go to sundown . You’ll thank me .
Hows pandora or apple music for a good sound quality source wt u think
i've been using apple music for at least a year now and it is noticeably better. signal seems stronger, no lack of bass like pandora, everything is crystal clear. plus they have almost any song imaginable at your fingertips for $10 a month.
D4S🔊💯✔🔥🔥🔥
Hello.. what is clipping!!!!!??????
you can set gains with a multimeter
How do you fix this?!???
Blows my mind how people can’t spend $149 for a DD1 to protect their investment of hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
Im broke
I spent it all on the system dammit 😂
We need a part 3!
2 Rockville 12s 10s before I smelt somthing
Use a piezo tweeter to set the gains for 2 bucks
How?
I use a speaker with a non polarized capacitor method
What is the bass boost?
its a button that says bass boost... it boosts a specific octave of bass bandwith usually 6db, 12db, or 18db per that octave, compared to the other frequencies that are also being produced... im no audio engineer tho, so if someone more qualified chimes in to correct me, take their advice.... hope this helps a little tho...
one other thing, not so much in spl car audio, but in sound quality, having all of the frequencies playing at the same volume is the goal.. this is called a flat response.. litterally people will spend up to a million dollars for a pair of speakers, for that flat response lol.. bass boosts will throw a specific frequency range to higher volumes than the rest of the frequencies produced, making it unbalanced.... probably dont really want to use a bass boost, unless the bass seems lacking in comparison to your mids and highs.. however, it can do goofy things to your subwoofer, like clipping, distortion etc if not done correctly.... how to do it correctly is kind of what this video is about.. setting gains properly is a better way of achieving a flat response than boosts and filters etc.... things get way more tricky when you get into passive crossovers... but thats a whole nother topic... a passive crossover is the little box that comes with a component set of speakers.. what it is doing is splitting the frequencies to the specific drivers (woofer and tweeter), and balancing the frequncies to a flat response... your gains and boosts on amplifiers are in the ball park of whats called an active crossover.. the easiest way to understand what an active crossover is, is an equalizer, that can adjust the volume of specific frequencies on the fly, while the audio is playing...
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Ok I have a question, I set my gain with the SMD DD 1 just below clip, is that setting on the gain the same for 1 ohm and 2 ohm subwoofers?
@@Catholic1391 i would say no... the different impedance (ohm) will draw a different wattage, thus changing where that point of clipping is in the volume or gain...
When it’s stinking is like a hair dryer’s burning out mate it’s common since