Tip… if you want to try inverted and don’t want to build a 2nd box or change your current box’s tuning find the total displacement for all drivers used and find something of equal displacement to put in the box (just make sure you don’t block the inner port opening in anyway and is secured it somehow so it doesn’t move around inside the box and make noise). 2x4’s & a couple correct length screws work pretty well.
Thanks for this great explanation. I'm sitting here answering along to your questions lol. Since I currently have 2 separate boxes, I may invert one to try and increase my range, and my whip is an '02 so it is very fitting with the tines 😂😂
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Ive seen an adjustable tube port that could solve this problem just mark the tube when testing or if the customer wants it to look clean you can make them a ruler or something… you could even build the box to be inverted and the have slide in aeroports of different diameters to adjust tune for regular mount.
I run inverted for cooling only, I run 8 DC level 5 12's in a serial 6th order. So inverted for me puts the motor/coil in the "large" chamber and helps cooling.
@@GTILOUD a serial 6th order has the rear chamber port firing into the front chamber where as a parallel 6th order the front and rear chamber are separate.
So 3.5 cube at 38hz and in inverted now what do I have my bass is way deeper 15.2 Orion hcca on 2500 xtr 80ah of lithium 400 amp alternator great video nice chain 😬
Thanks for such a great video, appreciate the information. Question: if the speaker manufacturer recommends the port tuning frequency to be 40Hz & you tune the port to 35Hz what would be: 1. The positive & negative effect on the subwoofer? 2. Will you be hurting the subwoofer & shortning it's life? Thanks
Thanks a bunch MB! I now finally, because 'box gets bigger/port got smaller' decided NOT to invert. I endlessly doubted because I run an almost 15! year old AudioSystem X-ion 12-800 on a DLS CAD15 wired to 2ohms in a 50 liter aeroported box. Only my box is 10liters smaller than the original AS enclosure which is 60liters. Displacement of the speaker is (only) 24liters... But still that's almost half the box 😭 Because I listen mostly to heavy kicks, techno and rave music I chose this setup with the port of 10cm(5inch) in diameter and being 25cm (10inches) long I managed to tune around 40 Hz. Just because down to say 35 Hz there's only depth and too much thunder going on @ 0dB to get 👌🏻 kicks. To increase box volume I switched a couple times, not getting audible output increase. When I got the phase just right I sounded ok but much 'flappier' when inverted.. now I know why🤫 Hail to the King baby! Greetings, from the Netherlands!
It depends on the situation your in like if the box is a tad bit too small the sub will be “tricked” into thinking the box is bigger and if you’ll be running shit loads of power inverting helps in keeping the woofer cool too as far as I know I don’t think it “sounds” any different either mount
I'm not a fan of inverting a subwoofer, but it does look cool sometimes. Great info on the subject I was wondering if their was any advantages. Keep up the good content.
Any time I can spread my vast car audio knowledge bo beginners or pros just look me up I will do my best to give logical advicse startinh a new channel in the next couple weeks cheak it out and spread the word my brother
i inverted mine they sounded much better the box that i got was bought with the subs, and its a ported box, i did this with my 12's and my 18's both got louder and hit harder.
@@M.B.Enclosures you are very good and I respect how you are teaching everyone. Most companies or individuals that are making money would not want to do what you are doing. Just to corner the market....much respect 🙏
I got two 12” skar evl’s in a dual skar armor box in a short body trailblazer could i invert them and gain more movement possibly I don’t want to mess it up?
I want to get a box for my skar Zvx 15s but I don’t want it to have it shipped and I no longer be were in stationed at... the one I have now was a custom box designed for Nemesis Audio Mystic 15s there 1000 something rms spec build
You only gain the displacement of the sub. The box size is very small difference unless you have a massive basket and magnet design.. even then it’s still not a huge difference unless you are working with a very limited space and box that will fit in that space..
@@kevinlondon8340 He went over that in the video. Generally it's going be a negligible difference. Audible & noticable ? It's going to depend on "your" ears.
I would say with one sub you'd be alright either way but if you've got multiple huge displacement subs sharing the same port and airspace you might run into problems if you switch it up from what it was designed for .
I've had both, solo baric is gonna hit harder and lower, but CompRs are no slouch especially for the money. If you're not upgrading your car's electrical go with 2 12 CompRs, but if you upgrade your electrical then 2 12 L7s all day
Hey my friend, if this robot underground guy doesn't stop talking about you AND your people....I'm fixin to drive to where he is and deal with this fool MYSELF!!!!!
But he IS bringing you viewer. I just personally don't like him. He talks about Steve Meade, calls Rockford and Kicker "Junk"...so...go figure. Just know...your people got your back!
Finally someone goes in depth about inverting a subwoofer in relation with port area
Tip… if you want to try inverted and don’t want to build a 2nd box or change your current box’s tuning find the total displacement for all drivers used and find something of equal displacement to put in the box (just make sure you don’t block the inner port opening in anyway and is secured it somehow so it doesn’t move around inside the box and make noise). 2x4’s & a couple correct length screws work pretty well.
Thanks for this great explanation. I'm sitting here answering along to your questions lol. Since I currently have 2 separate boxes, I may invert one to try and increase my range, and my whip is an '02 so it is very fitting with the tines 😂😂
It looks cool, especially with certain brands or custom designs. Or programmed LEDs.
Stronger together 🙏🏾 and when you speak I listen because knowledge is power and when MB build them enclosures dem lows is major power💪🏾Maryland showing ❤️if what I said didn’t make sense hay put how you want to make it to make sense🤔.😂😂
thanks i have a small pre fab box that's ever so slightly too small for my sub i will try to invert the sub and see if it makes a difference.
Damn, the chain rubbing on the mic is all I can concentrate on 😅
Ive seen an adjustable tube port that could solve this problem just mark the tube when testing or if the customer wants it to look clean you can make them a ruler or something… you could even build the box to be inverted and the have slide in aeroports of different diameters to adjust tune for regular mount.
The chain is rubbing on the mic
Lol I was like dam who eating chips 🤣
Right.... and MBE loved your comment.. just go's to show that he don't be reading ALL the comments, just rubber stamps them with his love, pathetic
Yeah sadly, but still a nice video I’ve been curious about this too
He lettin the money do the talkin💯🔥
After I pick up my box, straight to the Audio Shop….
I run inverted for cooling only, I run 8 DC level 5 12's in a serial 6th order.
So inverted for me puts the motor/coil in the "large" chamber and helps cooling.
What is a serial 6th order
@@GTILOUD a serial 6th order has the rear chamber port firing into the front chamber where as a parallel 6th order the front and rear chamber are separate.
I like it inverted helps with keeping 😎
Sounds like someone is eating potato chips off-camera lol. Great vid though, very well explained and worded...
So 3.5 cube at 38hz and in inverted now what do I have my bass is way deeper 15.2 Orion hcca on 2500 xtr 80ah of lithium 400 amp alternator great video nice chain 😬
Wouldn't the loss of cone area cause a slight sound level difference?
Thanks for such a great video, appreciate the information.
Question: if the speaker manufacturer recommends the port tuning frequency to be 40Hz & you tune the port to 35Hz what would be:
1. The positive & negative effect on the subwoofer?
2. Will you be hurting the subwoofer & shortning it's life?
Thanks
Thanks a bunch MB! I now finally, because 'box gets bigger/port got smaller' decided NOT to invert.
I endlessly doubted because I run an almost 15! year old AudioSystem X-ion 12-800 on a DLS CAD15 wired to 2ohms in a 50 liter aeroported box. Only my box is 10liters smaller than the original AS enclosure which is 60liters. Displacement of the speaker is (only) 24liters... But still that's almost half the box 😭
Because I listen mostly to heavy kicks, techno and rave music I chose this setup with the port of 10cm(5inch) in diameter and being 25cm (10inches) long I managed to tune around 40 Hz. Just because down to say 35 Hz there's only depth and too much thunder going on @ 0dB to get 👌🏻 kicks. To increase box volume I switched a couple times, not getting audible output increase. When I got the phase just right I sounded ok but much 'flappier' when inverted.. now I know why🤫
Hail to the King baby! Greetings, from the Netherlands!
It depends on the situation your in like if the box is a tad bit too small the sub will be “tricked” into thinking the box is bigger and if you’ll be running shit loads of power inverting helps in keeping the woofer cool too as far as I know I don’t think it “sounds” any different either mount
I'm not a fan of inverting a subwoofer, but it does look cool sometimes. Great info on the subject I was wondering if their was any advantages. Keep up the good content.
You were giving so much game but I couldn't focus past that CRUNCH CRUNCH.. diggn in bag CRUNCH. I wonder if that chip bag was inverted
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Nice lesson. Warmer air in the box lowers air density in the box making the box bigger to the sub.
It would do the opposite and make the tuning higher at the same time. There's so much air movement is a ported box, though, that I tend not to worry
Should the positive/ negative terminals be reversed if inverting the sub?
Thanks
No if your subs are inverted you do not reverse polarity so no don't reverse negative and positive on your sub if inverting
@@DB_on_the_dailey thanks i appreciate you responding 👊
Any time I can spread my vast car audio knowledge bo beginners or pros just look me up I will do my best to give logical advicse startinh a new channel in the next couple weeks cheak it out and spread the word my brother
Nice love the lesson. Wonder what mine would sound like inverted.
What kind of subs do you recommend and what size of subs should I get for My 2016 Ford Focus
All I can hear is someone eating chips lol😂
Nice explanation! Just asked you about this the other day
i inverted mine they sounded much better the box that i got was bought with the subs, and its a ported box, i did this with my 12's and my 18's both got louder and hit harder.
The only time I've seen this done in person was because the box was too small so they inverted the sub temporarily to increase the air space.
Great vid...ALL FACTS ALWAYS 💯
Congrats on 16k subs!!!!!!
Thanks
@@M.B.Enclosures you are very good and I respect how you are teaching everyone. Most companies or individuals that are making money would not want to do what you are doing. Just to corner the market....much respect 🙏
I got two 12” skar evl’s in a dual skar armor box in a short body trailblazer could i invert them and gain more movement possibly I don’t want to mess it up?
Thank you so much for this video, I was just about to shoot you that same question. Good looking out boss man
When are you gonna post a video of the juggernaut?
I want to get a box for my skar Zvx 15s but I don’t want it to have it shipped and I no longer be were in stationed at... the one I have now was a custom box designed for Nemesis Audio Mystic 15s there 1000 something rms spec build
So if I got a small enclosure I can make it sound louder with the subs inverted?
He just explained it
You only gain the displacement of the sub. The box size is very small difference unless you have a massive basket and magnet design.. even then it’s still not a huge difference unless you are working with a very limited space and box that will fit in that space..
well not for sure but i know inverting mine was like night and day from sound, but cabin space might be some reason too i have mine in a mini van
i have 2 15 inch kickers, and its definetly louder
You need a overhead microphone boom
I love inverted subs
Does inverting subwoofers require more power to play as lound as traditional facing subwoofers
No
I need a box for 2 12in vxf dual 4ohm subs to the most recommended cubic ft volume and I do wanna try inverting them
What's the best enclosure for 1 skar evl65
no Heat. Run cool And for Ever. Im Sold!. inverted it is .
Yiu are inside my mind Boss yeahhhhh my teacher 🤝✊
What sundown model is that?
I have seen some boxes with both inverted and traditional in the same box. how is that done and what do you have to do to make it work properly
Wire one of the subs backwards. As long as the cone of both subs are moving in the same direction your fine.
Exactly as he said☝🏿
Ok thanks
What about air space and tuning
@@kevinlondon8340 He went over that in the video. Generally it's going be a negligible difference. Audible & noticable ? It's going to depend on "your" ears.
I would say with one sub you'd be alright either way but if you've got multiple huge displacement subs sharing the same port and airspace you might run into problems if you switch it up from what it was designed for .
Really great video appreciate you sharing the knowledge 👍
you know you always have to make that sub inverted when you have that big ass motor you gotta show that shit off
Your mic and your chains are fighting...lol
Gotta question which one is better kicker 2 12s compr’s or kicker 2 12 L7 solo baric ?
I've had both, solo baric is gonna hit harder and lower, but CompRs are no slouch especially for the money. If you're not upgrading your car's electrical go with 2 12 CompRs, but if you upgrade your electrical then 2 12 L7s all day
@@nbdbreezy4352 thxs for the info had the comprs for a while already upgraded my electrical time for a sub change
My man...chains vs. mic placement.
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Do you ship to Charlotte NC
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How Do I go about getting a quote for a 4 15s box
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@@M.B.Enclosures thanks man you are the sound's GOD
You should take the mic off your chain dog, the noise from it moving is pretty loud on my headphones
That crackling sound was damn annoying 🤪
Nice video
Hey my friend, if this robot underground guy doesn't stop talking about you AND your people....I'm fixin to drive to where he is and deal with this fool MYSELF!!!!!
But he IS bringing you viewer. I just personally don't like him. He talks about Steve Meade, calls Rockford and Kicker "Junk"...so...go figure. Just know...your people got your back!
I flipped my 15" and reversed the wiring and she pounds.
Is your mic inside a bag of potato chips??? Just playing..
Rubbing up against his chain
Yeah, i figured saying just playing people would catch i know what the noise was
😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😂😂😂😂😂
Who ever is wasting chips stop trying to hear.
Take your chain off its moving against your microphone
2years late and that chain still annoys me lol
Your chain rubbing against ypur mic bro
You in gwinnett? Im un dorravile. Need a couple boxes built!!!