The anime cut it out but there's a panel in the manga showing Rei using her quirk on Todoroki's face after she burned him. They were both balling their eyes out, pretty tragic.
Very minor spoiler: The Todoroki siblings birth order is: Touya is the Eldest Fuyumi is the second Eldest Natsu is the second youngest Shouto is the youngest
Endeavor pumping out kids every 4 years I assume they're all four years apart in that order because he would just make a new one when one quirk awakened
That’s….a pretty damn good theory to say the least ✨👀 They should’ve called this episode “Keeping up with the Todoroki’s” Also Deku’s dad is overseas, Dallas
so we've been told anyways, considering the show up until this point hasn't even been one full year it's not too much of a stretch to say he's working, but we've never seen any evidence to show what type of person his dad is, for all we know he could be a deadbeat who left and inko just told deku he was working to protect him.
10:41 I just love to see you all speculating and as a manga reader I can't wait to see your faces when season 6 gets animated. Your reactions will be priceless!!
One thing I will say, the kid in the flashback with red hair -is- Toya. The animators didn't realize the kid and his hair was relevant at the time and messed up the colour back in season 2. ^^;
I love all these scenes with Endeavor’s thoughts, adds on to why he’s my favorite character. Episode was too heavy on the flashbacks though, especially ones we’d already seen, but I get that they wanted to remind us about the last sibling for the Toya reveal at the end.
you have some very good theorys about toya. From a manga reader you will find out more soon. season 6 will reaveal alot its supposed to come out this fall.
For some reason back in season 2 the animation studio changed the hair a bit. In the manga Toya's hair was pure white and Natsuo had red triangles on the sides during that flashback. However for some reason when animated they completely changed Toya's hair color and removed the red from Natsuo's. It is likely worth noting that in both versions Natsuo's hair is completely white in his adult life. Why that is has never been explained or even touched upon.
@@sidharthakarsh5833 It was not. I won't elaborate due to manga spoilers, but showing Toya with different hair colors was absolutely, confirmed intentional.
Fuyumi (sister) is a elementary teacher and Natsuo (brother) is a college student. Toya was the first both child then Fuyumi then Natsuo and Shoto is the baby of the family
Okay so the comment I wanted to answer with this seemingly got deleted but for anyone out there that it might concern and who doesn't understand the outburst of Natsuo (Todorokis Brother) etc: Might be Spoilers below depending on how you view it. Tried to keep it vague. I feel as though people are not really paying attention to the details between these two though, Natsuo does see that Endeavor is trying to change etc, and that's EXACTLY the reason why he is so conflicted and has a hard time to keep his cool when the Todoroki Family (minus the mom ofc) tries to have a "Family" Dinner after all that time and the stuff that Endeavor did. He is feeling like everyone just expects him to play along and "forgive" the person that has caused his Siblings and himself so much pain throughout most of their lives. At the same time he wants to forgive since he sees the effort of not just Endeavor but also his Sister for example, but also (eventually) seemingly accepts that he cannot forgive his Father because he sees himself as not as kind because of his hardened feelings towards him compared to Todoroki that suffered more directly but is seemingly more inclined to see where this goes. Which is explained in later Episodes.. Essentially what im trying to say is his actions while making everything "awkward" in the moment are not only reasonable but also inconsequetial. Why you ask? Because if you would actually have to imagine what sitting at the table with your parent with which you have not had too much contact because they scarred your entire family including yourself, and no less infront of people that you barely know, is like then you would probably see that it was a really uncomfortable situation for him aswell. Just like he stated once, he sees this as Endeavor trying to change things from his side and expecting open arms just because he came to the conclusion that his actions were bad seemingly just recently. Its a really dirty feeling on top of an already awkward situation with Emotionally Charged Gunpowder-Barrels of disdain sprinkled on top. Which is what also leads to something else later on.. (*Spoiler ahead!*) Obviously talking about the Siblings moving together with the mother in a seperate home away from Endeavor and those walls that are haunted by the past and more importantly by him. Also, one last thing to consider when you say "- he(Natsuo) can't deny that he(Endeavor) is actually trying to improve himself.": The Audience can know the thoughts and the reasoning behind a characters actions, other characters however most of the time don't get that so if you imagine some bad person in your life just up and told you "Hey im trying to change now, lets eat dinner awkwardly with my trainees after I did absolutely nothing to atone just yet." plus you actually had no interest in forgiving them, then you would probably not be that thrilled to follow that path right?
This is a generic comment - no spoiler involved, as I haven't got far enough to know which way it goes in the end (or if we even have a final answer yet). Sometimes, abusers simply don't get to be forgiven, no matter how much they want it. That's the consequence of their own actions that they have to accept. Even if they change later in life, they can't 'earn' forgiveness. It's within the heart of the victim - they either will or won't. All they can do is their best to deserve trust and love, and then hope. And I love the complex and layered responses we get from the various Todoroki family members. It's not all one way or the other.
@@dajtoad1 Exactly. Also spoiler ahead: Which is why its so important that Endeavor then made it clear to Natsuo that he didn't want to be forgiven but rather "atone" which he actually started to do in a rather nice way for the family and also a good way from a Story perspective as it gives an extra layer to his character and at least SOME minor closure on the open wound that is the Family dynamic at the moment.
As someone who's been in a toxic family... I can't believe they're gonna forgive him... he's a good hero sure... but if it were me I'd draw a thick line between us!
I not from a toxic family but to me it seems pretty logical, we haven't seen rey meet enji yet but shoto forgiving him makes sense as deku said, he is kind and he hasn't really done anything to natsu and fuyumi
I loved yout theory, sorry to destroy it, but the hair was just a mistake by the studio. Bones had it wrong in the scenes of them playing with the ball outside (with red hair). Toya hair was always white as his mother.
What happened to Toya? I don't know exactly, there is still a lot of mystery attached to it. Spoiler Warning! I'm a manga reader and I still don't know what happened that day.
(SPOILERS FOR SEASON 6 AND THE TRUTH ABOUT TOYA) Yes, you are right, Toya is Dabi. During the War Arc, Dabi makes a video exposing Endeavor and revealing that he is Toya Todoroki the son that "died". And it effects the whole family and gets Endeavor cancelled. Also the newest manga issue revealed that All For One saved Toya. Tbh he's one of the best characters in the series written wise.
![Pro Heroes react to The Todoroki Family {ALL PARTS} [REPOST]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/e9aQqRePCbI/mqdefault.jpg)
The anime cut it out but there's a panel in the manga showing Rei using her quirk on Todoroki's face after she burned him. They were both balling their eyes out, pretty tragic.
Yeah they messed the story up of s5
So was Rei trying to help with her Ice quirk after or? But yeah that's tragic
@@FantasyTheSloth Yh she was
@@ttb8932 That makes sense. I wonder why they cut that out?
@@FantasyTheSloth Alot of things were cut from S5 for censorship reasons so I'm assuming that
I came back here a few months after the reveal. Yeah, it’s all pretty messed up right? 😅
Very minor spoiler:
The Todoroki siblings birth order is:
Touya is the Eldest
Fuyumi is the second Eldest
Natsu is the second youngest
Shouto is the youngest
ahh yes natsu from fairy tail.
*POWER OF FRIENDSHIP INTENSIFIES*
Endeavor pumping out kids every 4 years
I assume they're all four years apart in that order because he would just make a new one when one quirk awakened
Yeah
That’s….a pretty damn good theory to say the least ✨👀
They should’ve called this episode “Keeping up with the Todoroki’s”
Also Deku’s dad is overseas, Dallas
so we've been told anyways, considering the show up until this point hasn't even been one full year it's not too much of a stretch to say he's working, but we've never seen any evidence to show what type of person his dad is, for all we know he could be a deadbeat who left and inko just told deku he was working to protect him.
@@RD-uq4hg you’re probably right lmao, watch him come back once Deku gets some clout
@Devansh singh(sus) if that’s the case, hori should’ve never promised that lol
@Devansh singh(sus) I think so as well. Hori literally said deku's dad will be revealed at the end of the series
@@Ichigoat4896 PLUS THE FACT THAT THE CREATOR OF MHA LOVES STARWARS APPARENTLY AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF STARWARS
bro my toya theories finna pop off for a while
10:41 I just love to see you all speculating and as a manga reader I can't wait to see your faces when season 6 gets animated. Your reactions will be priceless!!
One thing I will say, the kid in the flashback with red hair -is- Toya. The animators didn't realize the kid and his hair was relevant at the time and messed up the colour back in season 2. ^^;
actually it was red at that point but because of certain spoilers it changed over time!
@@nironff2041 this ^^^
@@nironff2041 nah it wasnt red at that point it was supposed to be white the anime mad a mistake (i read the manga)
@@sidharthakarsh5833 obviously not very well.
Just go to that chapter and you'll se it was already white at that point. It changed color much earlier.
I love all these scenes with Endeavor’s thoughts, adds on to why he’s my favorite character. Episode was too heavy on the flashbacks though, especially ones we’d already seen, but I get that they wanted to remind us about the last sibling for the Toya reveal at the end.
Yeah I really like this episode and I agree
I think you're theory on Touya is very good. I have been thinking something simillar
you have some very good theorys about toya. From a manga reader you will find out more soon. season 6 will reaveal alot its supposed to come out this fall.
I think that when you're going through lots of stress your hair can turn white sometimes?
For some reason back in season 2 the animation studio changed the hair a bit. In the manga Toya's hair was pure white and Natsuo had red triangles on the sides during that flashback. However for some reason when animated they completely changed Toya's hair color and removed the red from Natsuo's.
It is likely worth noting that in both versions Natsuo's hair is completely white in his adult life. Why that is has never been explained or even touched upon.
2:10 I love when he said "We've seen her a couple of times", she was like "Mhmm(when?)"
The red hair in that one scene was a coloring mistake that was made. That was supposed to be Toya.
It wasn't a mistake.
@@CaptainSpycrab it was
@@sidharthakarsh5833 It was not. I won't elaborate due to manga spoilers, but showing Toya with different hair colors was absolutely, confirmed intentional.
@@CaptainSpycrab I'm a manga reader and I'm telling you it was a color mistake
@@sidharthakarsh5833 Clearly not an up-to-date one. The situation is explicitly addressed during what will be the tail end of season six.
There is no genetic engineering in them.
Toya being red haired was either a miscolor by the animator or the plot changed half way through.
We don’t talk about Toya, no no no.
We don’t talk about Toya…
well because he’s dead
Collette got the "i want to do something else" vibe lol
Fuyumi (sister) is a elementary teacher and Natsuo (brother) is a college student. Toya was the first both child then Fuyumi then Natsuo and Shoto is the baby of the family
BRUH IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FREAKING EPISODE BUT IM ABOUT TO CLOCK INTO WORK FOR A SIX HOUR SHIFT!!! NOW I HAVE TO WAIT 😭😭😭
Ok, can we all agree that this episode should be called "Keeping up with the todoroki's" 😅😅😅😍
11:32 trauma can cause hair colour to change(and nails but thats a side point)
The change from red to white was a mistake from the animation company.
yall not ready for the second half of season 5
Is it that good ?! Cause I wanna watch it but I’m afraid I’m not gonna like it😅😂
You mean second half of second half
@@Master_3530 are you talking about meta liberation Army arc?
@@Ichigoat4896 Yes mva
@@johannaeyooo6980 if you don't like it, that's because the anime adaptation of this season's terrible compared to its mnga counterpart
if you read the manga ahead of season five your head would explode with whats to come!!!!!!
I accidentally spoil myself about the truth of toya todoroki.... Oh man season 6 is going to be Pogchamp
Okay so the comment I wanted to answer with this seemingly got deleted but for anyone out there that it might concern and who doesn't understand the outburst of Natsuo (Todorokis Brother) etc:
Might be Spoilers below depending on how you view it. Tried to keep it vague.
I feel as though people are not really paying attention to the details between these two though, Natsuo does see that Endeavor is trying to change etc, and that's EXACTLY the reason why he is so conflicted and has a hard time to keep his cool when the Todoroki Family (minus the mom ofc) tries to have a "Family" Dinner after all that time and the stuff that Endeavor did. He is feeling like everyone just expects him to play along and "forgive" the person that has caused his Siblings and himself so much pain throughout most of their lives. At the same time he wants to forgive since he sees the effort of not just Endeavor but also his Sister for example, but also (eventually) seemingly accepts that he cannot forgive his Father because he sees himself as not as kind because of his hardened feelings towards him compared to Todoroki that suffered more directly but is seemingly more inclined to see where this goes. Which is explained in later Episodes..
Essentially what im trying to say is his actions while making everything "awkward" in the moment are not only reasonable but also inconsequetial. Why you ask? Because if you would actually have to imagine what sitting at the table with your parent with which you have not had too much contact because they scarred your entire family including yourself, and no less infront of people that you barely know, is like then you would probably see that it was a really uncomfortable situation for him aswell. Just like he stated once, he sees this as Endeavor trying to change things from his side and expecting open arms just because he came to the conclusion that his actions were bad seemingly just recently. Its a really dirty feeling on top of an already awkward situation with Emotionally Charged Gunpowder-Barrels of disdain sprinkled on top. Which is what also leads to something else later on..
(*Spoiler ahead!*)
Obviously talking about the Siblings moving together with the mother in a seperate home away from Endeavor and those walls that are haunted by the past and more importantly by him.
Also, one last thing to consider when you say "- he(Natsuo) can't deny that he(Endeavor) is actually trying to improve himself.": The Audience can know the thoughts and the reasoning behind a characters actions, other characters however most of the time don't get that so if you imagine some bad person in your life just up and told you "Hey im trying to change now, lets eat dinner awkwardly with my trainees after I did absolutely nothing to atone just yet." plus you actually had no interest in forgiving them, then you would probably not be that thrilled to follow that path right?
This is a generic comment - no spoiler involved, as I haven't got far enough to know which way it goes in the end (or if we even have a final answer yet). Sometimes, abusers simply don't get to be forgiven, no matter how much they want it. That's the consequence of their own actions that they have to accept. Even if they change later in life, they can't 'earn' forgiveness. It's within the heart of the victim - they either will or won't. All they can do is their best to deserve trust and love, and then hope. And I love the complex and layered responses we get from the various Todoroki family members. It's not all one way or the other.
@@dajtoad1 Exactly.
Also spoiler ahead:
Which is why its so important that Endeavor then made it clear to Natsuo that he didn't want to be forgiven but rather "atone" which he actually started to do in a rather nice way for the family and also a good way from a Story perspective as it gives an extra layer to his character and at least SOME minor closure on the open wound that is the Family dynamic at the moment.
@@TheKoronas Yes, I've been impressed with how it's been dealt with so far. Surprisingly layered and adult treatment.
6:48 bruh he sounds exactly like dub deku
As someone who's been in a toxic family... I can't believe they're gonna forgive him... he's a good hero sure... but if it were me I'd draw a thick line between us!
I not from a toxic family but to me it seems pretty logical, we haven't seen rey meet enji yet but shoto forgiving him makes sense as deku said, he is kind and he hasn't really done anything to natsu and fuyumi
As a manga reader your theory is close
Wow.. Your theory is 😅.. I won't spoil you
Anyone who tries spoils in comments. Shush.
No fr
always gonna be that one person
we don't talk about toya-ya-ya
we don't talk about toya-ya-ya
Okay WHAT, I wanted to watch this but why did when I open my phone it was instantly on? I didn't open it, as soon as I put my password in this opened
Damn thats a good theory abt toya
I think Touya "died" from an accident but he managed to survive and then he became Dabi
Reis power was ice and Dabi still has flames so the logic aint exactly there
I like ya theory
we all being waiting on you Dabi suspiscion you see the eyes resemblance
They missed end credit scene again
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this dude just spoil himself with knowledge in his brain.
AAA IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THISSS!!
I loved yout theory, sorry to destroy it, but the hair was just a mistake by the studio. Bones had it wrong in the scenes of them playing with the ball outside (with red hair). Toya hair was always white as his mother.
No, Toya WAS originally a redhead, but it had already turned white by then.
Oh the next episode is plus ultra
Toya
Scary how theories on Touya Todoroki is on point…
Good theory lol
No spoilers but... damn. Sometimes y'all know too much :))
Yeah, Season 6 will break the internet and your minds…
food wars i don't think its for you guys tbh... that being said... if you guys survive past ep2 maybe you guys can react to it...
Toya is Dabi
Dude.... Spoilers
dude..
What happened to Toya? I don't know exactly, there is still a lot of mystery attached to it.
Spoiler Warning!
I'm a manga reader and I still don't know what happened that day.
(SPOILERS FOR SEASON 6 AND THE TRUTH ABOUT TOYA)
Yes, you are right, Toya is Dabi. During the War Arc, Dabi makes a video exposing Endeavor and revealing that he is Toya Todoroki the son that "died". And it effects the whole family and gets Endeavor cancelled. Also the newest manga issue revealed that All For One saved Toya. Tbh he's one of the best characters in the series written wise.
Hi
How could Dabi be Toya if Toya is dead?
They did say he was dead, but did we see him die?
@@ttb8932 A classic anime rule, if you never see the body, the person never died.
@@togodragon I know that, you know that, but Duk seemed confused.
read chapter 290 and you'll find out
Hello people
1st Pre Noti Gang!
Stop predicting the show
If you don’t wanna get spoiled then don’t read this comment The people that read the manga be like (did they read the manga)
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Yessir
MAJOR SPOILER ALERT, DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE MANGA
You got Toya pretty much to the point
Maybe don't comment this at all
@@Michaela_ZC he said spoiler alert
Seriously, Dabi is Touya? Just because he has fire. Fire in some way is quite common for Quirks. Ridiculous.
The fire quirk wasn’t even his reasoning for sussing toya, thats why u watch the whole vid before commenting :)
He even has the same eye color as Endeavor
Tobi is touya