Is there anyone out there who knows how to get in touch with Roger Martinez because I would like to speak with him. My name is Allen and me and my wife Tammy did a rag back in the day called White Metal Fanzine. We interviewed Roger and Vengeance before name change at Cornerstone Festival and would like to speak with him personally! Please let me know and thank you:)!
Hey Rodger I do want to thank you for the music that you did put out with Vengeance, before you put out human sacrifice you had a demo tape that I had ordered, I had wrote you a letter asking a bunch of stuff besides ordering the tape. I got my tape in the mail but I didn't see any letter of response to my letter, I started listening to my demo, which I loved. Well I turned the tape over and I heard you talking, you said my name and began to answer all my questions and you taking the time to do that for me as a teenager was insane. Bro, I really pray that you allow the holy Spirit to change your mind, I pray you and God have a supernatural encounter, God is love, but God does forgive. Your not a child, you're a grown man. Remember my friend, God loves you, all we have to do is repent. I love you bro, I pray God's hand on your life.
Bro, I really want you to allow yourself to change your mind, I want you to have a natural revelation, where your brain finally sees what reality actually is. You know how to love and how to forgive. You are not a child, you're a grown man. It's time to stop calling childish stories objective truth. Remember my friend, people love you, all we have to do is accept that love and love back. I love you bro, I want the best for your life. See how easy that was for me to write? Is it misguided and ignorant from your perspective?
Hey Roger! I want to thank you for all the Vengeance albums. I still love them to this day. They were a great tool and encouragement for my belief in Jesus. Those albums will exist long after all of us are gone! Glad you’re still alive and kicking bro! Peace
Send all claims of healing and otherwise to Xi Jiping of China and their Ministry of Information. Once they confirm the waste of their time, we can talk further.
I watched all 3 parts of these videos with Roger and what I have realized with ALL Atheists is that they are so bitter, angry, and hostile...they just cant contain it....Even if Christianity was not true Roger has given me a push actually toward Christianity.. after analyzing his reaction to this poor innocent Jesus riding on a donkey who threatens him so bad...Ha .Ha.....you know at least Christians for the majority are not stewing in rage and anger....so for that one reason alone I just stay away from that negative angry energy of the Atheist mind set
Not stewing in rage or anger? Ask any LGBTQ person and they'll tell you there's no hate like Christian "love". And all the fire and brimstone pastors, psychologically scaring people thinking they'll be tortured in horrible ways or submit to an imaginary tyrant. Atheists don't care about converting you. If you want to hold some silly beliefs, it's YOUR clown shoes to wear. We just point out the fact that they're clown shoes. "I don't care what you say, I'm not angry about wearing clown shoes!" It's like cutting your nose off to spite your face. Do I care? LOL no, but I'm still going to point out how ridiculous it is. And why would I be angry? Perhaps it's losing my entire childhood to abusive parents who thought they had to be complete authoritarians or risk eternal torture? Or being lied to and wasting the first 30 years being force-fed utter nonsense to believe under duress? It feels like I was a hostage that broke free. Imagine you were a hostage and you escaped, I bet you'd be pretty fucking pissed at your captors. But by all means, continue being Bozo. Embrace the clown shoes even more. Not like I give a shit, just stay the hell out of our laws and it's pretty much live and let live on my part, with the occasional laughing at your clown shoes as that's just hilarious and can't be helped.
Man, I gotta say that people look completely different to me: Christians fighting their way into government to try to make their religious views the law of the land for everyone, preaching fairy tales as objective truth, and trying to exclude others who don't have the same viewpoint. I can't help but think you haven't talked to many atheists if your experience is that "ALL atheists" are so bitter, angry and hostile that they just can't contain it. It honestly makes me sad that you see the world this way. It's so much more beautiful than this.
Roger, I really hope over the past 8 months you got rid of the cancer, but I really hope you get back on track! Don't let people in the past discourage you, it's not your fault they are ungrateful.
I was a fan of Vengeance Rising as a kid, but also abandoned Christianity in adulthood. However, I still hold to the view that people should be treated with respect (even if you disagree with them). I am disappointed that Roger Martinez doesn't seem to do the same. While I am certainly critical of religious dogma, I just don't use personal attacks to support my viewpoint.
So tell me how you really feel Roger. I like music and I like music that moves me. HS reveals the truth, not religious nuts or churches. Thanks for bringing these bands back to light. I love most metal. Bring me on.
I’m willing to hear Roger out regarding Rowe, but the ad hominem attacks aren’t helpful. I’d also like to him to have a conversation with Larry as long as it stays respectful. The “he said, he said” stuff is pointless regardless of where it’s coming from. I honestly don’t know what to believe.
@@RogerMartinez-o1s no someone was interviewing ted kirpatrick and ted said you asked him for money and ted kirpatrick said he sent roger martinez money so roger martinez cant say a christian didnt give roger martinez money 2 also can roger martinez share why did roger martinez leave the room a church was renting to roger martinez?
@@soulkiss1001 Dude thousands of Christians have given Roger money!!!! Second what was between Roger and Ted is their matter to handle. Don't be a TMZ whore just looking for dirt...
@@RogerMartinez-o1s thanks for your polite reply roger i pray you get healed of cancer,i havent eaten communion in about 8 years becouse i have diabetes 2 and i dont want to inject insulin into me but i have felt a sensation of fire and electricity all over me about 7 times;either when i was reading the king james gospel of matthew; 2-when i was reading the king james book of james-3 when i was praying to jesus-4,5,6,&7 when 4 seperate trinity believing people prayed for me;also i got accurate prophesies from when i visited a church where no one knew me well-the nicest people i know are trinity believers,i used to live next door to leaders of the independent trinity believing church i still go to & they are now the pastors & their is no hypocrisy at all-i dont want to reveal name of the church so neither i nor they will be harrassed but i love walter martin successor Hank hanegraaff & his equip website & broadcasts & his books "The complete revised bible answer book" & "The creation answer book" i dont speak in tongues of angels & i agree some people pressure people into doing that but some may really have that gift
Fine tuned universe and the existence of specified information resulting in complex function in life proves there is an intelligence behind the creation of the universe and that intelligent agent gets the title of God.
Interesting. Could you provide some facts and evidence to prove your theory or are you just giving your opinion? That's fine but call it what it is... an opinion and wishful thinking.
@@Tbone.357 I am speaking objective facts that most are not willing or capable of recognizing. Not based on opinion but facts and emperical evidence. Fact 1. Mindless nature has never been observed once to create any new fine tuning or new complex function. Let me repeat this has never been observed once just only claimed in the science community to explain the origin of all this fine tuning and specified irreducible complex function around us that all existed before any of us were born. Fact 2. Only time new complex function has been observed created is by us humans with the causal force of intelligence. Fact 3. In summary mindless nature is not capable of creating complex function but required by an intelligent agent as proven in the simplest way by observation.. Implications of this indirectly prove there was a God behind the origins of the physical universe and life. There are sound logical reasons why intelligence is required and Mindless nature is not capable as a cause. To understand this logic i am speaking of you will need a strong foundational understanding of a number of things. Starting with an understanding of what complex function actually means and second what are the properties of complex function that are required for it's emergence.. There is a serious lacking of attention given to the research and study into the science of complex function. Instead we have experts in many other areas of science like cosmology and biology that don't have this kind of expertise speaking ignorantly on this topic of the origin of engineered things like the functional universe, earth, and life.
i grew up in a similar environment Simon-Scrolls is one of the best albums ever and still gets regular play at my house. i too am no longer part of the faith, but more on an agnostic side. i've learned that no system has the answer- including atheists. i mean this respectfully, but the hubris to think you can change others' minds but you're pretty sure no one can change yours- that's the same thought that causes so much division and(on a bigger scale) world wars based on opposing ideologies. My parents are still staunch and believe every muslim(and non-messianic jews) are going to hell no ifs, ands, or buts...) Something to chew on- i think it takes as much faith to believe in science as religion- luv to talk to you more on that one!
Send all claims of healing and otherwise to Xi Jiping of China and their Ministry of Information. Once they confirm the waste of their time, we can talk further.
So often I hear massive amounts of bitterness from people like Roger towards religious people and basically use that energy to denounce Jesus as if to say because Jesus' followers once treated Roger badly, then the whole cause is worthless. That's like denouncing Tom Brady as a great football player because you saw someone wearing a #12 jersey one time not park between the lines. I mean, the truth is, Roger knows. He knows the truth. How do I know? Because the Bible states no man is without excuse. So Roger knows but is choosing not to believe.
how did roger martinez change so drastically,why let other people who claim to be christian discourage roger martinez? did roger martinez never have a supernatural experience praying to the trinity? why would roger martinez put nude woman on his website?
Drastic change happens in life when the person has to face facts about their ideology and what purpose it serves in their life. And when that idea no longer presents itself as worthy or truthful and more to the point a fabracated story just to keep whomever in made up chains you will find that person who is now free from those lies will have a drastic change in opinion and intent on what we choose too believe moving ahead. People in the faith are never the reason for turning your back on any religion,It's the finding out you have been lied too and been force feed a story that is manmade and manipulates people for that persons greater good not the human race...but also watching how christians act also makes it easy to walk away. No one has had a supernatural experience praying to any trinity it's only in your head, you can not prove it so just move on with that point. Because nude women are great!!!!
@@simonkarnes4057Wow, you absolutely NAILED it. That's exactly what it's like to leave Christianity or any other religion. These days the whole atheist thing has been a bit stale for me. I'm 10 years into apostatcy, so discussing mythology and debunking it while hearing the same Kool-aid drinking sheep bleat their empty torture threats has gotten older than a mummy's fart. So I've moved onto other subjects that interest me, like 20th century history, Anarchy, Communism, and Anarcho-communism 🤣 I find it's much more interesting to learn about real things, debate things that actually affect us, and have affected us in the recent past, rather than fixate on mythology from 2 millennia ago. People are homeless today. People need healthcare today. Capitalism is killing people and our planet today. Nazis need their teeth punched in today. So those are the things that get my interest as of late. But i have been on a Death Metal kick lately and Vengeance Rising was one of the only bands i was allowed to listen to under the tyranny of my literally physically/verbally/psychologically abusive Christian household as a child, and it served as an escape from all that awfulness. That and it still holds up very well today. Glad Roger is still around and still kicking ass, even more so now. Hearing him and his own words, not some Christian poo-pooing him in an article is so very refreshing too.
Roger I still like to rock out to the 1st album human sacrifice and I like the 2nd album, but I don't really like the 3rd or the 4th album. The Vocals sounded a lot better in the first 2 albums. Even though you don't believe anymore that's okay (your choice), I still do and I enjoy the lyrics. Thanks. 😮
We have all been screwed over by people, and a lot of them are Christians. Let that shit go. Life is too short to be so bitter. Simon seems cool at letting people believe what they want and not trying to force his views. Roger just comes across as a salesman promoting every piece of atheist entertainment out there. To me, it’s just as annoying as a Christian shoving their beliefs down my throat. Anyway, keep doing what you do Simon. I enjoy your show.
I'm looking to speak to people who came to church and saw me preach, or came to the Passover at my residence or came to my concerts etc.... What church do you go to and how often do you eat Jesus as a communion wafer from your priest, minister, pastor etc....
I would take Matthew 7:21 more to be those who use the name of God for their own personal gain. Politicians who want votes, false preachers who get rich and have lots of power and a lavish lifestyle. I think those are the ones who will claim they did things in God's name and He will know their hearts and that they never served Him
I see roger is still preaching.
Is there anyone out there who knows how to get in touch with Roger Martinez because I would like to speak with him. My name is Allen and me and my wife Tammy did a rag back in the day called White Metal Fanzine. We interviewed Roger and Vengeance before name change at Cornerstone Festival and would like to speak with him personally! Please let me know and thank you:)!
We will be praying for a gift if healing Mr. Martinez
Hey Rodger I do want to thank you for the music that you did put out with Vengeance, before you put out human sacrifice you had a demo tape that I had ordered, I had wrote you a letter asking a bunch of stuff besides ordering the tape. I got my tape in the mail but I didn't see any letter of response to my letter, I started listening to my demo, which I loved. Well I turned the tape over and I heard you talking, you said my name and began to answer all my questions and you taking the time to do that for me as a teenager was insane. Bro, I really pray that you allow the holy Spirit to change your mind, I pray you and God have a supernatural encounter, God is love, but God does forgive. Your not a child, you're a grown man. Remember my friend, God loves you, all we have to do is repent. I love you bro, I pray God's hand on your life.
Bro, I really want you to allow yourself to change your mind, I want you to have a natural revelation, where your brain finally sees what reality actually is. You know how to love and how to forgive. You are not a child, you're a grown man. It's time to stop calling childish stories objective truth. Remember my friend, people love you, all we have to do is accept that love and love back. I love you bro, I want the best for your life.
See how easy that was for me to write? Is it misguided and ignorant from your perspective?
Hey Roger!
I want to thank you for all the Vengeance albums. I still love them to this day. They were a great tool and encouragement for my belief in Jesus.
Those albums will exist long after all of us are gone!
Glad you’re still alive and kicking bro! Peace
Send all claims of healing and otherwise to Xi Jiping of China and their Ministry of Information. Once they confirm the waste of their time, we can talk further.
I watched all 3 parts of these videos with Roger and what I have realized with ALL Atheists is that they are so bitter, angry, and hostile...they just cant contain it....Even if Christianity was not true Roger has given me a push actually toward Christianity.. after analyzing his reaction to this poor innocent Jesus riding on a donkey who threatens him so bad...Ha .Ha.....you know at least Christians for the majority are not stewing in rage and anger....so for that one reason alone I just stay away from that negative angry energy of the Atheist mind set
Not stewing in rage or anger? Ask any LGBTQ person and they'll tell you there's no hate like Christian "love". And all the fire and brimstone pastors, psychologically scaring people thinking they'll be tortured in horrible ways or submit to an imaginary tyrant.
Atheists don't care about converting you. If you want to hold some silly beliefs, it's YOUR clown shoes to wear. We just point out the fact that they're clown shoes. "I don't care what you say, I'm not angry about wearing clown shoes!" It's like cutting your nose off to spite your face. Do I care? LOL no, but I'm still going to point out how ridiculous it is.
And why would I be angry? Perhaps it's losing my entire childhood to abusive parents who thought they had to be complete authoritarians or risk eternal torture? Or being lied to and wasting the first 30 years being force-fed utter nonsense to believe under duress? It feels like I was a hostage that broke free. Imagine you were a hostage and you escaped, I bet you'd be pretty fucking pissed at your captors.
But by all means, continue being Bozo. Embrace the clown shoes even more. Not like I give a shit, just stay the hell out of our laws and it's pretty much live and let live on my part, with the occasional laughing at your clown shoes as that's just hilarious and can't be helped.
Man, I gotta say that people look completely different to me: Christians fighting their way into government to try to make their religious views the law of the land for everyone, preaching fairy tales as objective truth, and trying to exclude others who don't have the same viewpoint. I can't help but think you haven't talked to many atheists if your experience is that "ALL atheists" are so bitter, angry and hostile that they just can't contain it. It honestly makes me sad that you see the world this way. It's so much more beautiful than this.
I wrote Rodger Martinez in the late 80s, he wrote me back and encouraged me to read Francis Schaefer. ❤
Roger, I really hope over the past 8 months you got rid of the cancer, but I really hope you get back on track! Don't let people in the past discourage you, it's not your fault they are ungrateful.
I was a fan of Vengeance Rising as a kid, but also abandoned Christianity in adulthood. However, I still hold to the view that people should be treated with respect (even if you disagree with them). I am disappointed that Roger Martinez doesn't seem to do the same. While I am certainly critical of religious dogma, I just don't use personal attacks to support my viewpoint.
So tell me how you really feel Roger. I like music and I like music that moves me. HS reveals the truth, not religious nuts or churches. Thanks for bringing these bands back to light. I love most metal. Bring me on.
I’m willing to hear Roger out regarding Rowe, but the ad hominem attacks aren’t helpful. I’d also like to him to have a conversation with Larry as long as it stays respectful. The “he said, he said” stuff is pointless regardless of where it’s coming from. I honestly don’t know what to believe.
Any update on Roger since this?
This guys own words will testify against him.
Dude u got cancer !?!??) u know the truth !! Hope u come back before it’s to late
i read a interview where roger martinez asked ted kirpatrick for money and ted kirpatrick gave roger martinez money
I do use type by talking. If you think I sat down and typed all that out you're out of your mind. ha ha ha ha ha
@@RogerMartinez-o1s no someone was interviewing ted kirpatrick and ted said you asked him for money and ted kirpatrick said he sent roger martinez money so roger martinez cant say a christian didnt give roger martinez money 2 also can roger martinez share why did roger martinez leave the room a church was renting to roger martinez?
@@soulkiss1001 Dude thousands of Christians have given Roger money!!!! Second what was between Roger and Ted is their matter to handle. Don't be a TMZ whore just looking for dirt...
@@soulkiss1001 what church do you go to and how many times a year do you eat Jesus as a communion wafer? What is your zip code?
@@RogerMartinez-o1s thanks for your polite reply roger i pray you get healed of cancer,i havent eaten communion in about 8 years becouse i have diabetes 2 and i dont want to inject insulin into me but i have felt a sensation of fire and electricity all over me about 7 times;either when i was reading the king james gospel of matthew; 2-when i was reading the king james book of james-3 when i was praying to jesus-4,5,6,&7 when 4 seperate trinity believing people prayed for me;also i got accurate prophesies from when i visited a church where no one knew me well-the nicest people i know are trinity believers,i used to live next door to leaders of the independent trinity believing church i still go to & they are now the pastors & their is no hypocrisy at all-i dont want to reveal name of the church so neither i nor they will be harrassed but i love walter martin successor Hank hanegraaff & his equip website & broadcasts & his books "The complete revised bible answer book" & "The creation answer book" i dont speak in tongues of angels & i agree some people pressure people into doing that but some may really have that gift
Fine tuned universe and the existence of specified information resulting in complex function in life proves there is an intelligence behind the creation of the universe and that intelligent agent gets the title of God.
Interesting. Could you provide some facts and evidence to prove your theory or are you just giving your opinion? That's fine but call it what it is... an opinion and wishful thinking.
@@Tbone.357 I am speaking objective facts that most are not willing or capable of recognizing. Not based on opinion but facts and emperical evidence. Fact 1. Mindless nature has never been observed once to create any new fine tuning or new complex function. Let me repeat this has never been observed once just only claimed in the science community to explain the origin of all this fine tuning and specified irreducible complex function around us that all existed before any of us were born. Fact 2. Only time new complex function has been observed created is by us humans with the causal force of intelligence. Fact 3. In summary mindless nature is not capable of creating complex function but required by an intelligent agent as proven in the simplest way by observation.. Implications of this indirectly prove there was a God behind the origins of the physical universe and life. There are sound logical reasons why intelligence is required and Mindless nature is not capable as a cause. To understand this logic i am speaking of you will need a strong foundational understanding of a number of things. Starting with an understanding of what complex function actually means and second what are the properties of complex function that are required for it's emergence.. There is a serious lacking of attention given to the research and study into the science of complex function. Instead we have experts in many other areas of science like cosmology and biology that don't have this kind of expertise speaking ignorantly on this topic of the origin of engineered things like the functional universe, earth, and life.
Roger seems to pretty much dislike anyone who is a Christian. Sad.
Well christians suck
i grew up in a similar environment Simon-Scrolls is one of the best albums ever and still gets regular play at my house. i too am no longer part of the faith, but more on an agnostic side. i've learned that no system has the answer- including atheists. i mean this respectfully, but the hubris to think you can change others' minds but you're pretty sure no one can change yours- that's the same thought that causes so much division and(on a bigger scale) world wars based on opposing ideologies. My parents are still staunch and believe every muslim(and non-messianic jews) are going to hell no ifs, ands, or buts...) Something to chew on- i think it takes as much faith to believe in science as religion- luv to talk to you more on that one!
If heaven is real, then the rewards are infinitely better than a guitar. But hey… that’s nice of you to offer Roger!
Send all claims of healing and otherwise to Xi Jiping of China and their Ministry of Information. Once they confirm the waste of their time, we can talk further.
@@RogerMartinez-o1s
Have a great day buddy!
@@RogerMartinez-o1s hi Roger I'm Eric from California man..do you have an email address?
@@RogerMartinez-o1s china doesnt allow biblical trinity christianity why would anyone believe someone subject to the chinese government
It's not, so a guitar is infinitely better than absolutely nothing.
So often I hear massive amounts of bitterness from people like Roger towards religious people and basically use that energy to denounce Jesus as if to say because Jesus' followers once treated Roger badly, then the whole cause is worthless. That's like denouncing Tom Brady as a great football player because you saw someone wearing a #12 jersey one time not park between the lines. I mean, the truth is, Roger knows. He knows the truth. How do I know? Because the Bible states no man is without excuse. So Roger knows but is choosing not to believe.
how did roger martinez change so drastically,why let other people who claim to be christian discourage roger martinez? did roger martinez never have a supernatural experience praying to the trinity? why would roger martinez put nude woman on his website?
Drastic change happens in life when the person has to face facts about their ideology and what purpose it serves in their life. And when that idea no longer presents itself as worthy or truthful and more to the point a fabracated story just to keep whomever in made up chains you will find that person who is now free from those lies will have a drastic change in opinion and intent on what we choose too believe moving ahead. People in the faith are never the reason for turning your back on any religion,It's the finding out you have been lied too and been force feed a story that is manmade and manipulates people for that persons greater good not the human race...but also watching how christians act also makes it easy to walk away. No one has had a supernatural experience praying to any trinity it's only in your head, you can not prove it so just move on with that point. Because nude women are great!!!!
@@simonkarnes4057 the fruit of love joy grace peace faith hope mercy proves the trinity is real ,repent before you die in your sins
@@soulkiss1001 Too bad you just keep on drinking the Kool Aid
@@simonkarnes4057Wow, you absolutely NAILED it. That's exactly what it's like to leave Christianity or any other religion.
These days the whole atheist thing has been a bit stale for me. I'm 10 years into apostatcy, so discussing mythology and debunking it while hearing the same Kool-aid drinking sheep bleat their empty torture threats has gotten older than a mummy's fart. So I've moved onto other subjects that interest me, like 20th century history, Anarchy, Communism, and Anarcho-communism 🤣
I find it's much more interesting to learn about real things, debate things that actually affect us, and have affected us in the recent past, rather than fixate on mythology from 2 millennia ago. People are homeless today. People need healthcare today. Capitalism is killing people and our planet today. Nazis need their teeth punched in today. So those are the things that get my interest as of late.
But i have been on a Death Metal kick lately and Vengeance Rising was one of the only bands i was allowed to listen to under the tyranny of my literally physically/verbally/psychologically abusive Christian household as a child, and it served as an escape from all that awfulness. That and it still holds up very well today.
Glad Roger is still around and still kicking ass, even more so now. Hearing him and his own words, not some Christian poo-pooing him in an article is so very refreshing too.
Roger I still like to rock out to the 1st album human sacrifice and I like the 2nd album, but I don't really like the 3rd or the 4th album. The Vocals sounded a lot better in the first 2 albums. Even though you don't believe anymore that's okay (your choice), I still do and I enjoy the lyrics. Thanks. 😮
Good channel informative....vengeance rising fan too although i never been a holy roller over the top religious dude
We have all been screwed over by people, and a lot of them are Christians. Let that shit go. Life is too short to be so bitter. Simon seems cool at letting people believe what they want and not trying to force his views. Roger just comes across as a salesman promoting every piece of atheist entertainment out there. To me, it’s just as annoying as a Christian shoving their beliefs down my throat. Anyway, keep doing what you do Simon. I enjoy your show.
Excellent comment.
Regarding Simon taking over the VR business affairs…
What if you guys have a falling out?
I don't care and what's to fall out over? It's less than a grand a year.
@@RogerMartinez-o1s
Just making conversation… not a big deal.
@@ErWo75 It's all mine HAHAHAH!!! i don't care about the money just that roger gets what is his!!!
@@RogerMartinez-o1s Cuz i'm too damn sexy...we will never fall out! HAHA
I know you guys want feedback and comments…
It appears I’m one of the only people that bother. That’s unfortunate.
I'm looking to speak to people who came to church and saw me preach, or came to the Passover at my residence or came to my concerts etc.... What church do you go to and how often do you eat Jesus as a communion wafer from your priest, minister, pastor etc....
@@RogerMartinez-o1sCommunion wafers = Lich cookies. And you get free juice with them too!
I would take Matthew 7:21 more to be those who use the name of God for their own personal gain. Politicians who want votes, false preachers who get rich and have lots of power and a lavish lifestyle. I think those are the ones who will claim they did things in God's name and He will know their hearts and that they never served Him
lets roast a bone.
Who are you voting for in 2024? Are you in America?
@@RogerMartinez-o1s I live in North America. I will make my voting only right given to me after my eatings in China Town.
In two weeks I go to China Town.
Very Slurry