Love how many small details are given to such old cases. Never heard of this case before but this guy planned everything out. He even boasted how smart he is re: the cops being involved "The Fox"👹 His level of evil showed just how bad to Marion's body.
The Registrar was beyond negligent. If there was an issue that required one child to be picked up why not the other. That's of course if we even look past the whole suspicious interaction which was described.
Gullible to say the least. At least two times the story could have ended differently if not for the incompetence of the school registrar and the police.
To be fair, back in the day people were just much more trusting. It's not like there were easy methods of communication with childrens' parents, people took others at their word far more often. Unfortunate.
@@BartimaeusTrilogyFan I am not disagreeing, however the explantion given should have raised red flags. Why take one child and not the other of there was a need to pick the children up? 🙄 This is especially the case when the individual had so little knowledge about the child he was supposed to pick up so she basically had to feed him information. What if the children were the same size? What next would he have asked for to distinguish between the two girls? Her own alarm bells even started going off hence his need to tell her she could call the Bank. Taking all the facts together, while i know long ago people may have been more trusting, that explanation is wholly insufficient in these circumstances.
There's trusting and then there's shear stupidity. He asks only for one child, he doesn't know her name, he's unaware there's two girls, nope nope nope this could have been prevented! Poor little girl.
The registrar may not have been the brightest bulb in the chandelier - it certainly sounds that way. However, in her defence, her training and instructions for the position she held may not have covered that situation. We think of a lot of people who lived 100 years ago as being more innocent and less worldly than us, whether or not that is true is open to debate but, regardless of the era, there are some people who are naturally naïve and overly trusting. At that time, men tended to be viewed as having an automatic authority, simply because they were men. I suppose that, at the end of the trial and with all the newspaper reporting, the registrar probably realised that she had enabled a truly horrendous crime, that would be a hard burden to bear.
Dude that’s insensitive. Coulda woulda. Do you know how many lives have NOW been saved because schools have gotten smarter and has learned precisely because of such cases? Let’s praise humanity for getting smarter, and not blame them for not always having do e certain things. Schools haven’t even existed for that long at that time and people were less knowledgeable and way more trusting of each other.
@@lowrider81hd 'smarter" Given the amount of US school shootings? I'd hate to see what imbecilic looked like if more school shootings than there are days in a year counts as 'smart'. The last time the UK had a school shooting was in 1997.
You are right about 30 years ago a boy was taken from school by the fathers pregnant girlfriend and murdered because she was jealous of him. She lied and got someone to go in and get him out who the school had never seen before. Worse she lied for so long. Nothing has truly been learnt. Only me or my partner got my kids and in emergency if not us my sister who has a child there. Times haven't changed much.
@@shernettehenry3916 bs. Times HAVE changed. Just because of a few anecdotal stories people tell each other doesn’t make it not true. Kids are now safer than ever from these crimes. However what’s being done to them INSIDE school buildings is a whole other story. But you people will never look at these things the same way. Because y’all think the government should take care of you cradle to grave. So I’m outta here.
So disgusting that someone could inflict such evil on a young girl absolutely horrendous torture that Marion must have been subjected to prior to her brutal murder completely beyond humanity
Totally agree. Absolutely horrendous. I always roll my eyes when people say it used to be safe so and so… when? Where? Especially when you have people like that dumb Secretary, falling for that idiotic story.
@@LotsofLisa I find there used to be many kidnappings for ransom back then. Today it's for different reasons, mainly pedos lurking in the shadows or right next door. Kids need to be careful not to get cat-fished by old guys pretending to be teens.
Poor little Marion! She must have been so frightened. I'm glad that schools have strict procedures today about releasing children to people who walk in.
People can't just walk in today. Doors are locked and you have to buzz to be let in. Though with this idiotic woman manning the buzzer, I'm sure it would have made no difference.
There was a case several years ago where the little boy went missing after his great aunt picked him up from school. They soon established it wasn't his great aunt and it turned out it was his father's second wife who is jealous of him spending time with the little boy. She got a friend to dress up like an old woman telling the friend she was only going to scare the little boy and while they were driving down the road pulled him in the back seat where she was hidden under a quilt and strangled him. She didn't tell her friend well you're involved as well and made her help her hide the body. What I thought was a travesty of justice is the woman that killed him didn't do that long of a sentence and got paroled after about 10 or so years for good behavior and perhaps due to the fact she was pregnant when she committed the murder. After that they had very strict rules at the school about identifying the person who is picking the child up and they had to show proper ID. A girl I used to date was tell me how her niece went down to pick her younger sister up when time from school and the teacher would not allow it because she was not on a list or something like that. The older sister chewed out the teacher and then when their mother came down there she also chewed the teacher out. I told idiot I was dating I said they have to have certain rules and regulations what if someone a relative came down picked up some nice child started drinking on the way home and wrecked and the child was killed then the family could hold the school liable for releasing the child in that person's custody. It fell on deaf ears the whole bunch was not the brightest.
@@thomasswafford250 Yes, my daughter is in her late 30s and when she started in preschool, they had recently put into place protocol where the only person allowed to pick up the child was the custodial parent of record. Only that parent could designate other people to be authorized to collect children, whether during the school day or after school. This meant even a parent could not pick up a child if he/she was not the custodial parent and had not been authorized by the actual custodial parent. There had been a huge problem with kidnappings by non-custodial parents across the country in addition to the few stranger abductions carried out this way. By the time she was in 2nd grade, school doors were locked and entry could only be attained through the front office and they were very diligent. So they've been in place for a long time now - she's about to turn 39...
@@ImCarolB if you are referring to the situation with my old girlfriend's niece at the school exactly. When I tried to girl I was dating at the time why the teacher was right, she couldn't refuse to see the situation from the teacher in the schools viewpoint. If anything would have happened they could have been held responsible.
Didn't the school secretary find it strange that the man only asked for one of his (*Mr. Parker's) daughters, and didn't even know which one? Nicely done, but a very disturbing and gruesome case. That poor little girl. :(
He didn't state he was their father but that their father had been in an accident.... Why he was to fetch only the one and didn't realize there was two are two red flags indeed
Here’s to all the children, unnamed and named, forgotten and not, who have had to endure a brutal ending of their precious lives. Millions of children all over the world, whose lives have been snuffed out in horrendous ways for the selfish reasons of those who took their lives. Rest in peace, young ones. You will never be forgotten. I’m so glad our law enforcement finally was able to identify the boy in the box, Joseph Augustus Zarelli , and they now prosecute those guilty for his brutal murder. RIP❤
Crying right now 😭 I wish every child on Earth could be happy and protected. Childhood is such a precious, fragile time…. I hate that these things happen, and I hate that these innocent children have to suffer. Your words are so poignant and beautiful. Bless you 🕊️
Beautifully written ❤ Amen 🙏🏽 to every word along with a prayer of love for every innocent child that did not deserve to lose their precious lives. We love you little angels be happy now in heaven ❤
I was left speechless the moment Marion was released to the killer at school with false pretense. I knew this story was going to be really bad. It turned out worse than expected. I lived in L.A. in the 60's never heard of this story but then my young mind was not reading about horrors. Poor little Marion she was a fighter till the end. I will never understand why some human trash commit such despicable acts; then and now some things don't change. Bless her soul and Rest in Peace. Good week to you BC and faithful listeners. Elizabeth C.
Wow, I didn't think it could get worse after I realized she was dead in the car, but when you said her limbs were missing, my jaw couldn't have dropped lower! Thanks for another fascinating yet horrifying case!
I bet the lady at the school felt bad for unwittingly participating in such a horrible crime. At 12 years old, Marion's death would leave quite a void in the family's psyche and life.
I'm listening to The Kidnap Year's by David Stout. I'd never heard of this case until his book. He mentions the Registrar aged quickly, her hair turning white, and I think she left a few years later.
I agree because if something like that did happen to her father it seem like a family member would have came to pick up the child you think that the school secretary or whoever she was would have understood or recognize that. I tell my child all the time if something was to happen you don't go with anybody unless I have told you beforehand such-and-such is coming to pick you up.
This story has Stuck w me since I first heard it. I can't imagine how her dad must have felt first thinking he had gotten her back then realizing not only was she dead but also dismembered! It must have been like a nightmare omg.
😳 A man goes to a school asking for a child and the school hands over a child. Wth?! Why would someone do that to a child? How sick are you to cut off arms and legs? I'm not a violent person by any means. But, I would have beatin the brakes off that woman who let my child go with a stranger. That Monster killed a child because he wanted to go to college!!!! Wtf?! Completely horrible events for absolutely nothing!! Sad! Everyone stay safe, keep your children close. ✌️BC, good story. 👍
I'm so angry the cops followed the father without communicating with him first. Tracking the bills made sense and would have been so much safer for this little girl. Her poor father.
I agree, though Brief Case said he'd actually killed her because she'd recognized him. However, it still sounds like she didn't recognize him within the time before the first drop was made... so they still hindered her safety.
This story really hits home for me. When I was 12 my mom would cut my hair just like poor Marion's (sometimes she would clip my ears). And one night when coming home from the store a man stopped his car to ask me if I wanted a ride home. He said he was a friend of my mom. I got in the car, he took me home and told my mom that I got in his car. One of the worst spankings I ever got, but I never accepted rides from anyone again. I'm 61 and will never forget that night!! It's so sick that people target the young. Special place in hell for them. Thanks BC for another Monday morning video!
Hi Vicki, Similar thing happened to me when i was about 8, I had an argument with a friend so walked home, we lived in the country, it was remote with only a few houses, I had to walk about a mile, a car stopped (2 door one) a women got out and asked if I wanted a lift, I declined and she said "I know your mummy and dady have always told you not to accept lifts from strangers but we are different" (those words have always stayed with me) I kept about 12 yards between us, ready to run across the field, the woman and the man driving then drove off, I then cautiously walked home, I told my my mum and she went crazy with my friends mum for just letting me walk home alone :(
Wow! That is a pretty smart thing that man did. Although, people have a sixth sense about "bad people" and so these experiments proving kids will get in cars with predators don't really make sense
So agree the registrar is totally to blame for her being released to this monster against all logic and procedure. Of course the murderer is entirely to blame for choosing to commit this awful crime. It was really disgusting. The police following the father without telling him seem to have been also to blame for the childs death too. What a terrible mess caused by poor decisions and stupidity.
That school registrar -who never took two minutes to call and check because she somehow BELIEVED a man would only come and collect ONE of twins when 'their father had been seriously injured'... I hope she was fired and spent the rest of her days wracked with guilt.
This case was horrific, you did an excellent job presenting it. The punishment of this despicable, loathsome fiend was far too soft for what he did to Marion Parker. I would love to say what I think would be a fair punishment for this prick's barbaric actions but Team TH-cam will zap my comment and scold me. Again... 🤨
If it helps at all, in the book The Kidnapping Years (David Stout), he reported that Hickman acted all brave about his execution. He'd made a prison conversion to Catholicism and said he'd take his death like a man. However, as Hickman was led to the gallows he balked and was dragged to the noose. Because he sank again when the trap doors opened, instead of a clean neck break, he suffocated after many minutes. Still not equal justice in my opinion.
So many monsters in society, guided by greed, hate, jealousy. Hickman was such a monster and deserved what he got. The suffering he inflicted on Marion and her family is beyond understanding. Thank you Brief Case for another excellent story-telling experience.
How a person in their whole sanity makes a decision to dismember another person let alone a child; disturbs my peace every time I try to figure out how they take those heinous acts. How? How? It's completely inconceivable to me.
Just handing a child over to a confused man like that and when checking up on the story would be so easy...I hope guilt tore that woman to shreds. Marion Parker, demanding to be set free, shows what spirit she had. R.I.P. little one.
For anyone needing the particulars: "On October 19, 1928, Hickman was hanged on the gallows in San Quentin Prison. Upon falling through the trap doors of the gallows, he struck his head and hung, "violently twitching and jerking." Per witnesses, it took approximately two minutes for Hickman to die. An autopsy performed after his execution showed that Hickman's neck did not break during the hanging, and that he had died from asphyxia." He deserved it and then some. What kind of monster does this?
My grandparents arrived in Los Angeles, California in 1920s. My mother was born around the time of the murder but this the first time I have heard of this case! What a truly horrific crime!! You would think that woman at the school would have been extremely suspicious that he only asked for only one of the two twins with such a story of the father being in a serious accident! During that time, there wasn't the fear of criminal activity as now but still what a stupid decision --- not even calling to make sure 😢 Thank you, BC for and well researched a present story!! 👏
I bet the woman who let Marion leave the school with her future killer felt guilty for her mistake. This case took place during the years both my grandparents were born. Thanks Brief Case for this one out of California, my home state.
Hello BC, crimes involving innocent children guarantees to rip my heart out. How anyone could do what Hickman did - cut off her limbs, knowing there was a chance poor Marion was still alive? Is a monster. Pure and simple. The way you read the story to us, brings the case to life. Thank you for working so hard, it's really appreciated. Take care. xx
Poor Marion, an innocent girl, taken because some selfish person wanted revenge against her father. I'm so glad he paid for what he did, even if he got an easier death than he gave Marion. Her poor parents, to lose a child would be so terrible. And being a twin myself, I keep thinking about Marjorie, who had her other half taken from her. 😢
@@Lucinda_Jackson Or maybe he’s freezing in Helheim. I have read that according to Norse mythology it is a very cold, miserable place to go to once you pass away. Then again that maybe been in part influenced by Christianity but I feel like it would be the perfect punishment for a sicko like him.
Beyond horrific. To some people life has always been cheap. How delusional does one have to be to think plans like this will succeed and a happy life will ensue after. What a nightmare for the father. Thanks for another macabre slice of history. Good job BC.
My Lord, how evil can you be to strangle, dismember a live person, then disembowel her. What's worse is she was an innocent child. He was crazy to do this; however, he knew what he was doing was wrong. Her poor family 😢 Thank you, BC excellent as always ❤
I can't even imagine receiving a letter that says, 'I'd rather have your money, but I will kill your child...' that's nightmare inducing! Thanks Brief Case, the history you recount is so immersive, you really do take us to the time and place. 🙏🖤✌️
This one brought tears to my eyes. Even though it was so long ago. Heartbreaking. Poor Marion. And her poor family - especially her twin. Your research was, as usual, thorough and detailed BC. Thanks for sharing.
I remember hearing about this many years ago - part of a "Stranger Danger" series, aimed toward keeping children safe, when my kids were small, which we watched together. (They are in their mid-30's now). About how the man asked for the child, but didn't realize there were two of them. You have filled in the horrific "rest of the story". *An absolute, complete failure of the school to keep these children safe.* The school administrator should have been charged, as well, in my opinion. Out of all the different True Crime series on TH-cam, I LOVE your channel the best. I don't understand why you don't have a million subs by now. Your work is impeccable, and your vocal style is soothing and calm. Thank you, BC.
Thanks for your nice comment, a million subs would be nice, but I am so humbled that so many nice people have subbed, watch the videos and leave comments, I never expected to ever get this amount
I'm glad someone is covering this case, it's one of the most horrific ones out there. This one has stuck with me since I read about it years ago. Kelly Ann Bates, Fanny Adams, Suzanne Capper, Sylvia Likens and Junko Furuta cases also do
This was so hard to Listen to. Omg how horrifying! I've never even heard of this. Rest in peace Marion. He deserved what he got.....and I'm sure much worse in thereafter......
I have actually heard of this case. A first since I started listening to you. That is one of the reasons why I love this channel and I will continue. I'm a big fan. It is horrendous. Only someone without a soul could do this to a child and her family. RIP Marion. 😢💔🕊️
Thanks Brief! What a horrible thing for this poor baby. The minds eye paints terrible pictures! 😖 I want you to know I appreciate the work you put into your videos. You do proper research and use real imagery and news from the stories. Some cases couldn't be that easy because of the age of the stories. You don't go the lazy route and use repetitive stock photos and audio. We BC fans appreciate and stick around for the quality. You deserve any and every good that you may receive for this.
Am I the only one that feels as if the Lady that allowed her to leave without checking should have been held accountable as well, that poor girl I understand why she didn't resist because she recognized the animal the, this one hit different it made my eyes leak Great job BC great job. Keep them coming.
Poor Marion! I cannot imagine the logic Mrs Holt used to come to the conclusion that she shouldn’t check and also to think why he wasn’t taking Marjorie too
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. I was so hopeful, then I realized it’s a BC and I know it’s not good. I thank God that the gentleman thought of writing the serial numbers down. Great detective work. I so love you BC. Every Monday I wonder how you will out do last weeks case. No surprise, you just rock.
Her poor sister Marjorie, not only did she lose her twin but she lived the rest of her life knowing that which of them lived and which died all hinged on one woman judging which of them was 'smaller'. If what the killer said later was true, that he strangled Marion because she recognised him from her visits to the bank with her father then perhaps if the school registrar had sent Marjorie then she would not have recognised him and might have survived, being exchanged alive for the ransom...?
Good grief this is beyond horrible, that poor child and her family. I listen to a lot of crime stories and this shocked me. A ransom/ kidnapping I don’t expect them to be found alive but what this 19 year old did was just monstrous. .
Good morning, This was such a tragic story and to have it happen to a child and the way that he killed her was horrible. Every time I hear about the death of a child in your stories it just really hits home but I look forward to every Monday listening to your stories and the way that you tell them. Honestly I blame the school because they should have called to check to see if Marions father did send this young man. I hope you have a fabulous week take care and look forward to listening to you next Monday🇬🇧🇵🇭
Why didn't the cops take Hickman to the registrar to identify him when they first visited his apartment as they had the first two suspects ? Further if the cops had searched the apartment the first time they would found what they found on the second search. The registrar caused the murder because of her lax decision to release Marion to Hickman. Great video.
It's insane to think the school handed over a child whose gruesome, tragic death could've been so easily prevented! I'm a big fan of this channel. Keep up the great work.❤
Poor little girl i feel very sad for her 😔thanks sir very nice job fantastic explanation 👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻👌🏻GOD bless you n protect you always all the best 👍🏻👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻😍😍😍😍
Thanks for the upload on Victoria Day 2023! After yesterday's family birthday party with lots of kids, I look forward to start my Monday chilling with this!
What a horrific case. This level of evil is unbelievable. I think this man allowed true evil into his heart, that is the only way a person could commit such a crime on an innocent child. Have you seen the movie Nefarious? I think some people are really taken over by evil (only if they welcome it) and that is how he was capable of such horror. At least we know that in time Marion was reunited with her whole family in heaven.
How tragic the death of such a young girl with her whole life in front of her. The young man who did this terrible crime should have had the same fate as his victim,he had a much quicker death and at least a longer life.
So horrendous that even in this day someone would do this to a young girl and her family and then knowing had the cops not screwed it up the first time she may have been returned alive. So very sad.
Wow, just UNBELIEVABLY UNBELIEVABLE... Thanks so very much for this historical true story, just CAN'T Imagine how peoples can do these most HORRENDOUS ACTS OF CHILLING BRUTALITY towards one another, MUCH LESS Children!!!😢😢😢
You would think that the police could have traced the sender of the telegram, as it would have had to be done in person from the office. The operator surprisingly did not notify the police about the suspicious message he had sent, strange!
There is no limit of man’s horrendous behavior toward another human being. This poor child and her heartbroken family, how do you wrap your head around such evil….
I'm dumbfounded that Mrs Holt & the school allowed Marion to leave the school, with a man who hadnt a clue about her being a twin & gave such a weak reason for the collection of the child the school should have checked with the fathers employers, delayed Hickman leaving & called the police, sheer lack of concern by the school over the child R. I. P. Marion such a sad end to a young life
That precious little Marion should have NEVER been released to anyone that the little girl didn't know! The woman at the school has Marion's blood on her hands. I couldn't believe that kid killed that little girl because he wanted money to go to school!!! So heartbreaking for her and her family. As always, Brief Case you are amazing at your work! ❤
I read about this case in an obscure (and now probably out of print) book in 1986, and this is only the second time any of the many true crime channels I watch has covered it, and you were by far the most thorough! Kudos, Brief Case! 😊
I've been a fan of this channel for YEARS and this is the only time you've covered a case I've already heard of. Love this channel so much!
Thankyou :)
Yes me too. I love that it's always stories from back in the day. I absolutely love this channel too. ❤
I love this channel too! Briefy is the best :)
Love how many small details are given to such old cases. Never heard of this case before but this guy planned everything out. He even boasted how smart he is re: the cops being involved "The Fox"👹 His level of evil showed just how bad to Marion's body.
I’ve never heard of this case before, it’s truly heartbreaking.
The Registrar was beyond negligent. If there was an issue that required one child to be picked up why not the other. That's of course if we even look past the whole suspicious interaction which was described.
I thought the same.
The pity is a kidnapper still uses the same trick to this day.
Gullible to say the least. At least two times the story could have ended differently if not for the incompetence of the school registrar and the police.
To be fair, back in the day people were just much more trusting. It's not like there were easy methods of communication with childrens' parents, people took others at their word far more often. Unfortunate.
@@BartimaeusTrilogyFan I am not disagreeing, however the explantion given should have raised red flags. Why take one child and not the other of there was a need to pick the children up? 🙄 This is especially the case when the individual had so little knowledge about the child he was supposed to pick up so she basically had to feed him information. What if the children were the same size? What next would he have asked for to distinguish between the two girls? Her own alarm bells even started going off hence his need to tell her she could call the Bank.
Taking all the facts together, while i know long ago people may have been more trusting, that explanation is wholly insufficient in these circumstances.
There's trusting and then there's shear stupidity. He asks only for one child, he doesn't know her name, he's unaware there's two girls, nope nope nope this could have been prevented! Poor little girl.
The registrar may not have been the brightest bulb in the chandelier - it certainly sounds that way.
However, in her defence, her training and instructions for the position she held may not have covered that situation. We think of a lot of people who lived 100 years ago as being more innocent and less worldly than us, whether or not that is true is open to debate but, regardless of the era, there are some people who are naturally naïve and overly trusting. At that time, men tended to be viewed as having an automatic authority, simply because they were men.
I suppose that, at the end of the trial and with all the newspaper reporting, the registrar probably realised that she had enabled a truly horrendous crime, that would be a hard burden to bear.
Dude that’s insensitive. Coulda woulda. Do you know how many lives have NOW been saved because schools have gotten smarter and has learned precisely because of such cases? Let’s praise humanity for getting smarter, and not blame them for not always having do e certain things. Schools haven’t even existed for that long at that time and people were less knowledgeable and way more trusting of each other.
@@lowrider81hd 'smarter" Given the amount of US school shootings? I'd hate to see what imbecilic looked like if more school shootings than there are days in a year counts as 'smart'. The last time the UK had a school shooting was in 1997.
You are right about 30 years ago a boy was taken from school by the fathers pregnant girlfriend and murdered because she was jealous of him. She lied and got someone to go in and get him out who the school had never seen before. Worse she lied for so long. Nothing has truly been learnt. Only me or my partner got my kids and in emergency if not us my sister who has a child there. Times haven't changed much.
@@shernettehenry3916 bs. Times HAVE changed. Just because of a few anecdotal stories people tell each other doesn’t make it not true. Kids are now safer than ever from these crimes. However what’s being done to them INSIDE school buildings is a whole other story. But you people will never look at these things the same way. Because y’all think the government should take care of you cradle to grave. So I’m outta here.
So disgusting that someone could inflict such evil on a young girl absolutely horrendous torture that Marion must have been subjected to prior to her brutal murder completely beyond humanity
Totally agree. Absolutely horrendous. I always roll my eyes when people say it used to be safe so and so… when? Where? Especially when you have people like that dumb Secretary, falling for that idiotic story.
@@LotsofLisa Yes she should’ve called the bank and spoke to the father at least. She should never have let that maniac take her.
@@LotsofLisa I find there used to be many kidnappings for ransom back then. Today it's for different reasons, mainly pedos lurking in the shadows or right next door. Kids need to be careful not to get cat-fished by old guys pretending to be teens.
They cut his ( Hickmans) penis off, but this is generally not well known😮
Nothing more american than this behaviour
This was truly disturbing. What an evil, sick person. That poor girl.
Poor little Marion! She must have been so frightened. I'm glad that schools have strict procedures today about releasing children to people who walk in.
People can't just walk in today. Doors are locked and you have to buzz to be let in. Though with this idiotic woman manning the buzzer, I'm sure it would have made no difference.
There was a case several years ago where the little boy went missing after his great aunt picked him up from school. They soon established it wasn't his great aunt and it turned out it was his father's second wife who is jealous of him spending time with the little boy. She got a friend to dress up like an old woman telling the friend she was only going to scare the little boy and while they were driving down the road pulled him in the back seat where she was hidden under a quilt and strangled him. She didn't tell her friend well you're involved as well and made her help her hide the body. What I thought was a travesty of justice is the woman that killed him didn't do that long of a sentence and got paroled after about 10 or so years for good behavior and perhaps due to the fact she was pregnant when she committed the murder. After that they had very strict rules at the school about identifying the person who is picking the child up and they had to show proper ID. A girl I used to date was tell me how her niece went down to pick her younger sister up when time from school and the teacher would not allow it because she was not on a list or something like that. The older sister chewed out the teacher and then when their mother came down there she also chewed the teacher out. I told idiot I was dating I said they have to have certain rules and regulations what if someone a relative came down picked up some nice child started drinking on the way home and wrecked and the child was killed then the family could hold the school liable for releasing the child in that person's custody. It fell on deaf ears the whole bunch was not the brightest.
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Yes, my daughter is in her late 30s and when she started in preschool, they had recently put into place protocol where the only person allowed to pick up the child was the custodial parent of record. Only that parent could designate other people to be authorized to collect children, whether during the school day or after school. This meant even a parent could not pick up a child if he/she was not the custodial parent and had not been authorized by the actual custodial parent. There had been a huge problem with kidnappings by non-custodial parents across the country in addition to the few stranger abductions carried out this way. By the time she was in 2nd grade, school doors were locked and entry could only be attained through the front office and they were very diligent. So they've been in place for a long time now - she's about to turn 39...
@@thomasswafford250 Always, better safe than sorry!
@@ImCarolB if you are referring to the situation with my old girlfriend's niece at the school exactly. When I tried to girl I was dating at the time why the teacher was right, she couldn't refuse to see the situation from the teacher in the schools viewpoint. If anything would have happened they could have been held responsible.
Didn't the school secretary find it strange that the man only asked for one of his (*Mr. Parker's) daughters, and didn't even know which one? Nicely done, but a very disturbing and gruesome case. That poor little girl. :(
Exactly!
He didn't state he was their father but that their father had been in an accident.... Why he was to fetch only the one and didn't realize there was two are two red flags indeed
@@Fogysoks4709 Yes, I know. I edited it, in case anyone was confused.
She didn't have enough brains to put in a bucket.
The secretary should have gone to jail
Poor child😢 At least the culprit paid for his crimes, but the tragedy must have stayed with her family forever. Thank you, great work as always.
Here’s to all the children, unnamed and named, forgotten and not, who have had to endure a brutal ending of their precious lives.
Millions of children all over the world, whose lives have been snuffed out in horrendous ways for the selfish reasons of those who took their lives.
Rest in peace, young ones. You will never be forgotten.
I’m so glad our law enforcement finally was able to identify the boy in the box, Joseph Augustus Zarelli , and they now prosecute those guilty for his brutal murder.
RIP❤
Amen 🙏🏼
Was it the sadistic adoptive mom as reported by her daughter?
@@lazyhomebody1356 I believe so. They picked her up years later.
Crying right now 😭 I wish every child on Earth could be happy and protected. Childhood is such a precious, fragile time…. I hate that these things happen, and I hate that these innocent children have to suffer. Your words are so poignant and beautiful. Bless you 🕊️
Beautifully written ❤ Amen 🙏🏽 to every word along with a prayer of love for every innocent child that did not deserve to lose their precious lives. We love you little angels be happy now in heaven ❤
I was left speechless the moment Marion was released to the killer at school with false pretense. I knew this story was going to be really bad. It turned out worse than expected. I lived in L.A. in the 60's never heard of this story but then my young mind was not reading about horrors. Poor little Marion she was a fighter till the end. I will never understand why some human trash commit such despicable acts; then and now some things don't change. Bless her soul and Rest in Peace. Good week to you BC and faithful listeners. Elizabeth C.
Wow, I didn't think it could get worse after I realized she was dead in the car, but when you said her limbs were missing, my jaw couldn't have dropped lower! Thanks for another fascinating yet horrifying case!
My jaw was the same. I couldn’t believe how horrendous and unnecessary. He did it to be cruel to her parents and everyone that loved little Marion.
And then said she was still alive when he began to dismember her!! I just hate how we have always been surrounded by despicable bastards like this!
@@dggydddy59 apparently ann rand was a huge fan of the killer
@@laa4438 Ugh! I believe it!
@@laa4438I refuse to read her books. She's creepy.
The secretary didn't think why pick up one girl and not the other? That alone is suspicious!
People were far more trusting then.
So Mrs Holt did not wonder why only pick up one sister and not them both? Shame on her.
I bet the lady at the school felt bad for unwittingly participating in such a horrible crime.
At 12 years old, Marion's death would leave quite a void in the family's psyche and life.
I'm listening to The Kidnap Year's by David Stout. I'd never heard of this case until his book. He mentions the Registrar aged quickly, her hair turning white, and I think she left a few years later.
Terrible mistake the school registrar let the child go with him!
Remember the time... back then ppl believed what was told to them.
I agree because if something like that did happen to her father it seem like a family member would have came to pick up the child you think that the school secretary or whoever she was would have understood or recognize that. I tell my child all the time if something was to happen you don't go with anybody unless I have told you beforehand such-and-such is coming to pick you up.
Yep she just handed a beast, a free child. So many people have no common sense even nowadays its sickening 😢🥺
I hope she felt all the guilt and criticism after what she did
I agree- just so shocking... I bet she or he lived with terrible guilt for the rest of their life... 😥😢💔
I can’t believe An innocent 12 year old girl was killed over some gentlemen’s and child predator college money.
I think that was an excuse.
Good that the jury didn't fall for any of his insanity pleas and gave him a fitting punishment
I wasn't expecting such horrific things done to this child. 😔😢
So many subhuman creatures on this planet, so horrific and sad, unfortunately!!!🙏😢⚖️🤔❣️
Same 😢
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At least they were dealt with then. Today, he'd be let right back out on the street within hours of his arrest.
@@Lucinda_Jackson so true, unfortunately!!!🙏😢⚖️🤔❣️
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This story has Stuck w me since I first heard it. I can't imagine how her dad must have felt first thinking he had gotten her back then realizing not only was she dead but also dismembered! It must have been like a nightmare omg.
I'm sure it was a nightmare.
😳 A man goes to a school asking for a child and the school hands over a child. Wth?! Why would someone do that to a child? How sick are you to cut off arms and legs? I'm not a violent person by any means. But, I would have beatin the brakes off that woman who let my child go with a stranger. That Monster killed a child because he wanted to go to college!!!! Wtf?! Completely horrible events for absolutely nothing!! Sad! Everyone stay safe, keep your children close. ✌️BC, good story. 👍
1920s
Think of the times. Things like that didn't happen. It's these cases that put forth the protocols that we have now.
I'm so angry the cops followed the father without communicating with him first. Tracking the bills made sense and would have been so much safer for this little girl. Her poor father.
I agree, though Brief Case said he'd actually killed her because she'd recognized him. However, it still sounds like she didn't recognize him within the time before the first drop was made... so they still hindered her safety.
Foreal. The cops were so fucking stupid and she likely died solely because of their stupidity
Since revenge was a large part of the motive he was likely always going to kill her.
This story really hits home for me. When I was 12 my mom would cut my hair just like poor Marion's (sometimes she would clip my ears). And one night when coming home from the store a man stopped his car to ask me if I wanted a ride home. He said he was a friend of my mom. I got in the car, he took me home and told my mom that I got in his car. One of the worst spankings I ever got, but I never accepted rides from anyone again. I'm 61 and will never forget that night!! It's so sick that people target the young. Special place in hell for them. Thanks BC for another Monday morning video!
Hi Vicki, Similar thing happened to me when i was about 8, I had an argument with a friend so walked home, we lived in the country, it was remote with only a few houses, I had to walk about a mile, a car stopped (2 door one) a women got out and asked if I wanted a lift, I declined and she said "I know your mummy and dady have always told you not to accept lifts from strangers but we are different" (those words have always stayed with me) I kept about 12 yards between us, ready to run across the field, the woman and the man driving then drove off, I then cautiously walked home, I told my my mum and she went crazy with my friends mum for just letting me walk home alone :(
@@BriefCaseOfficial but you didn't get in the car, and I never did again...thank God!😸
Me 2 when I was at school a guy offered me sweets to get in the car n said he would we would get more once I was in ...I ran home
Wow! That is a pretty smart thing that man did. Although, people have a sixth sense about "bad people" and so these experiments proving kids will get in cars with predators don't really make sense
@@BriefCaseOfficial Women who help men get victims, children or other women in bars...a special place in hell!!
So agree the registrar is totally to blame for her being released to this monster against all logic and procedure. Of course the murderer is entirely to blame for choosing to commit this awful crime. It was really disgusting. The police following the father without telling him seem to have been also to blame for the childs death too. What a terrible mess caused by poor decisions and stupidity.
This was such a tragedy! But I am glad they caught him and that it didn't go unsolved.
That school registrar -who never took two minutes to call and check because she somehow BELIEVED a man would only come and collect ONE of twins when 'their father had been seriously injured'...
I hope she was fired and spent the rest of her days wracked with guilt.
There has been and always will have monsters in every corner of the planet...horrendous
This case was horrific, you did an excellent job presenting it. The punishment of this despicable, loathsome fiend was far too soft for what he did to Marion Parker. I would love to say what I think would be a fair punishment for this prick's barbaric actions but Team TH-cam will zap my comment and scold me. Again... 🤨
If it helps at all, in the book The Kidnapping Years (David Stout), he reported that Hickman acted all brave about his execution. He'd made a prison conversion to Catholicism and said he'd take his death like a man. However, as Hickman was led to the gallows he balked and was dragged to the noose. Because he sank again when the trap doors opened, instead of a clean neck break, he suffocated after many minutes.
Still not equal justice in my opinion.
Poot child and her family!! What horror to go through!!
Thanks BC for the narration.
Thanks for watching
So many monsters in society, guided by greed, hate, jealousy. Hickman was such a monster and deserved what he got. The suffering he inflicted on Marion and her family is beyond understanding. Thank you Brief Case for another excellent story-telling experience.
How a person in their whole sanity makes a decision to dismember another person let alone a child; disturbs my peace every time I try to figure out how they take those heinous acts. How? How? It's completely inconceivable to me.
Just handing a child over to a confused man like that and when checking up on the story would be so easy...I hope guilt tore that woman to shreds. Marion Parker, demanding to be set free, shows what spirit she had. R.I.P. little one.
For anyone needing the particulars:
"On October 19, 1928, Hickman was hanged on the gallows in San Quentin Prison. Upon falling through the trap doors of the gallows, he struck his head and hung, "violently twitching and jerking." Per witnesses, it took approximately two minutes for Hickman to die. An autopsy performed after his execution showed that Hickman's neck did not break during the hanging, and that he had died from asphyxia."
He deserved it and then some.
What kind of monster does this?
yes, at least he got back some of what he did to that poor child! Hope he enjoyed feeling what it was like to suffocate.
Hickman also, to use the words of the time, "died yellow," screaming and fainting as they dragged him to the gallows.
A case covered in the 1900s. Many thanks BC. Can’t imagine what that little girl went through. May her soul continue to rest in peace 🕊️.
My grandparents arrived in Los Angeles, California in 1920s. My mother was born around the time of the murder but this the first time I have heard of this case! What a truly horrific crime!! You would think that woman at the school would have been extremely suspicious that he only asked for only one of the two twins with such a story of the father being in a serious accident! During that time, there wasn't the fear of criminal activity as now but still what a stupid decision --- not even calling to make sure 😢 Thank you, BC for and well researched a present story!! 👏
I bet the woman who let Marion leave the school with her future killer felt guilty for her mistake.
This case took place during the years both my grandparents were born. Thanks Brief Case for this one out of California, my home state.
My home State, too. I never heard of this one.
Hello BC, crimes involving innocent children guarantees to rip my heart out. How anyone could do what Hickman did - cut off her limbs, knowing there was a chance poor Marion was still alive? Is a monster. Pure and simple. The way you read the story to us, brings the case to life. Thank you for working so hard, it's really appreciated. Take care. xx
Hello dear how are you doing today?
What a horrific crime, very shocking even today. Thank you for sharing this crime though, I thought I had heard it all.
Whoa. Was not expecting this one to be so gruesome. Poor dad who had to see his baby that way.
Sorry :(
Poor Marion, an innocent girl, taken because some selfish person wanted revenge against her father. I'm so glad he paid for what he did, even if he got an easier death than he gave Marion. Her poor parents, to lose a child would be so terrible. And being a twin myself, I keep thinking about Marjorie, who had her other half taken from her. 😢
Yes, my thoughts exactly.
Well I think we all know where he went when he died. 😊
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Yep! RIP - Roast In Perpetuity!
@@Lucinda_Jackson Or maybe he’s freezing in Helheim. I have read that according to Norse mythology it is a very cold, miserable place to go to once you pass away. Then again that maybe been in part influenced by Christianity but I feel like it would be the perfect punishment for a sicko like him.
Good morning 🌞 and happy Monday Briefcase 💼 and crime family 🙃
Hello Cadillac, I hope all is good with you :)
@@BriefCaseOfficial Yippee 😁 it is
Goodnight
It's 9pm here 🇦🇺
Hiya!
It’s almost good night for me, it’s still Monday where I am , but only for the next 2.5 hours 😊 lol
Beyond horrific. To some people life has always been cheap. How delusional does one have to be to think plans like this will succeed and a happy life will ensue after. What a nightmare for the father. Thanks for another macabre slice of history. Good job BC.
My Lord, how evil can you be to strangle, dismember a live person, then disembowel her. What's worse is she was an innocent child. He was crazy to do this; however, he knew what he was doing was wrong. Her poor family 😢 Thank you, BC excellent as always ❤
Thanks Sheila
I can't even imagine receiving a letter that says, 'I'd rather have your money, but I will kill your child...' that's nightmare inducing! Thanks Brief Case, the history you recount is so immersive, you really do take us to the time and place. 🙏🖤✌️
That was another level of evil.
That poor girl, her father, her family..
Incredible research and detail brought to this case. Thank you.
This one brought tears to my eyes. Even though it was so long ago. Heartbreaking.
Poor Marion. And her poor family - especially her twin.
Your research was, as usual, thorough and detailed BC. Thanks for sharing.
I remember hearing about this many years ago - part of a "Stranger Danger" series, aimed toward keeping children safe, when my kids were small, which we watched together. (They are in their mid-30's now). About how the man asked for the child, but didn't realize there were two of them. You have filled in the horrific "rest of the story".
*An absolute, complete failure of the school to keep these children safe.* The school administrator should have been charged, as well, in my opinion.
Out of all the different True Crime series on TH-cam, I LOVE your channel the best. I don't understand why you don't have a million subs by now. Your work is impeccable, and your vocal style is soothing and calm. Thank you, BC.
Thanks for your nice comment, a million subs would be nice, but I am so humbled that so many nice people have subbed, watch the videos and leave comments, I never expected to ever get this amount
How can anyone be so depraved to do such a violent act on a child? There had to be a lot of anger towards the father. Insanity’s doesn’t explain it.
This man was a psychopath.
I'm glad someone is covering this case, it's one of the most horrific ones out there. This one has stuck with me since I read about it years ago. Kelly Ann Bates, Fanny Adams, Suzanne Capper, Sylvia Likens and Junko Furuta cases also do
The best way start a Monday morning with watching a video by Brief Case
This was so hard to Listen to. Omg how horrifying! I've never even heard of this.
Rest in peace Marion. He deserved what he got.....and I'm sure much worse in thereafter......
I have actually heard of this case. A first since I started listening to you. That is one of the reasons why I love this channel and I will continue. I'm a big fan.
It is horrendous. Only someone without a soul could do this to a child and her family. RIP Marion. 😢💔🕊️
Brief Case, your research is so thorough on this case. I've read about this case, but your inclusion of Marion's notes is new touch.
Thanks Brief! What a horrible thing for this poor baby. The minds eye paints terrible pictures! 😖
I want you to know I appreciate the work you put into your videos. You do proper research and use real imagery and news from the stories. Some cases couldn't be that easy because of the age of the stories. You don't go the lazy route and use repetitive stock photos and audio.
We BC fans appreciate and stick around for the quality. You deserve any and every good that you may receive for this.
Thankyou so much Vina, Yes the photos do take loads of time :(
@@BriefCaseOfficial Well, your loyal fans DO appreciate your hard work! :)
Am I the only one that feels as if the Lady that allowed her to leave without checking should have been held accountable as well, that poor girl I understand why she didn't resist because she recognized the animal the, this one hit different it made my eyes leak Great job BC great job. Keep them coming.
Poor Marion! I cannot imagine the logic Mrs Holt used to come to the conclusion that she shouldn’t check and also to think why he wasn’t taking Marjorie too
Wow, that truly was horrific. 😢
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. I was so hopeful, then I realized it’s a BC and I know it’s not good. I thank God that the gentleman thought of writing the serial numbers down. Great detective work. I so love you BC. Every Monday I wonder how you will out do last weeks case. No surprise, you just rock.
Thanks Lisa
@@BriefCaseOfficial you’re welcome!
The registrar
is to blame in so many ways. There is no excuse for her laziness and stupidity. Jmo
Poor child. How heartbreaking.
Aww 🥰 where did you got that fantastic smile from?
Her poor sister Marjorie, not only did she lose her twin but she lived the rest of her life knowing that which of them lived and which died all hinged on one woman judging which of them was 'smaller'.
If what the killer said later was true, that he strangled Marion because she recognised him from her visits to the bank with her father then perhaps if the school registrar had sent Marjorie then she would not have recognised him and might have survived, being exchanged alive for the ransom...?
Absolutely! I would really like to know more about her later life
Good grief this is beyond horrible, that poor child and her family. I listen to a lot of crime stories and this shocked me. A ransom/ kidnapping I don’t expect them to be found alive but what this 19 year old did was just monstrous.
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Hello dear how are you doing today?
Good morning,
This was such a tragic story and to have it happen to a child and the way that he killed her was horrible. Every time I hear about the death of a child in your stories it just really hits home but I look forward to every Monday listening to your stories and the way that you tell them. Honestly I blame the school because they should have called to check to see if Marions father did send this young man.
I hope you have a fabulous week take care and look forward to listening to you next Monday🇬🇧🇵🇭
Why didn't the cops take Hickman to the registrar to identify him when they first visited his apartment as they had the first two suspects ? Further if the cops had searched the apartment the first time they would found what they found on the second search.
The registrar caused the murder because of her lax decision to release Marion to Hickman.
Great video.
Good morning all from South Jersey USA
morning from Ontario
What a horrific crime, poor little girl. What a evil man, this one really touched my heart, her poor family there lives were never the same. 👍❤️🙏😢
Thank you for this one, BC. I'm surprised, but I don't remember hearing of this case. So very sad and entirely preventable.
It's insane to think the school handed over a child whose gruesome, tragic death could've been so easily prevented!
I'm a big fan of this channel. Keep up the great work.❤
Thankyou
Greetings all and BC. Great to be here.
Thanks Agapy :)
So the ignorant police got her killed. There should have been punishment for them.
... how did y'all miss bloody footprints the first time...
Good morning, my friend!! Great story
Morning :)
How heartbreaking for Marian's parents and twin sister. 💔 I don't even want to think about what she went through in her last day. 😢
Poor little girl i feel very sad for her 😔thanks sir very nice job fantastic explanation 👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻👌🏻GOD bless you n protect you always all the best 👍🏻👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻😍😍😍😍
Omygosh! How horrific! I'd never heard of this crime! Thank you for telling little miss Parker's story❤
Thanks for watching
That poor little girl. That poor family.
Oh heck yes, it's my Monday Briefy goodness! Thank you very much for the upload, you really make my day every Monday :)
Lots of love from Finland
Thanks Aurora :)
Excellent as usual.
Thankyou
Fascinating -- Thank you, as always, BC !!!!
This is such a tragic case. I feel so bad for her family. Thank you for sharing this horrific story.
Thanks for watching
I wonder what his upbringing was like. Having lost a sister violently, it’s always difficult to hear the history of children who suffer.
Thats so sad, I cannot imagine what that was like, I hope the person responsible is locked away somewhere
Thanks for the upload on Victoria Day 2023! After yesterday's family birthday party with lots of kids, I look forward to start my Monday chilling with this!
Thankyou, So you are Canadian then, I hope you have a great day :)
@@BriefCaseOfficial You are welcome, and yes, I am Canadian. Thanks! Have a good day as well. :)
What a horrific case. This level of evil is unbelievable. I think this man allowed true evil into his heart, that is the only way a person could commit such a crime on an innocent child. Have you seen the movie Nefarious? I think some people are really taken over by evil (only if they welcome it) and that is how he was capable of such horror. At least we know that in time Marion was reunited with her whole family in heaven.
I can't believe the negligence of the registrar.
Good Monday evening from Philippines 🇵🇭
Morning Mirriam :)
Good Monday morning from Canada! ❤🤍❤
Happy lunch time from wales!
Poor Marion. The pain that never left her heartbroken family. He is pure evil
What a monster!!!! Another great story from Brief Case!
Thankyou
Good evening BC, will be watching the Little Mermaid this Thursday with my younger brother!
Hi Dee, I have just checked as I did not know that movies had been made again, I will check it out too :)
@@BriefCaseOfficial It’s actually a live action reboot by Disney like what they did with Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King. 🙂
Sounds fun!
This was a heinous crime. So well narrated BC I was hooked! This is one of your best. Love your channel. ❤
Thanks Lynda
Aww 🥰 where did you got that fantastic smile from?
OMG. What a monster. This is one of the most horrific things I've heard. Poor wee lass. Thanks, as always BC.
Thanks Lynn
How tragic the death of such a young girl with her whole life in front of her. The young man who did this terrible crime should have had the same fate as his victim,he had a much quicker death and at least a longer life.
That was a horrific way for her to go 😢 thank your bread case for this video. Appreciate the hard work.
So horrendous that even in this day someone would do this to a young girl and her family and then knowing had the cops not screwed it up the first time she may have been returned alive. So very sad.
Wow, just UNBELIEVABLY UNBELIEVABLE... Thanks so very much for this historical true story, just CAN'T Imagine how peoples can do these most HORRENDOUS ACTS OF CHILLING BRUTALITY towards one another, MUCH LESS Children!!!😢😢😢
Why couldn’t the police figure out where the telegrams were sent from?
I wondered that. Weren’t they all essentially typed out individually? What operator would not be suspicious?
You would think that the police could have traced the sender of the telegram, as it would have had to be done in person from the office. The operator surprisingly did not notify the police about the suspicious message he had sent, strange!
There is no limit of man’s horrendous behavior toward another human being. This poor child and her heartbroken family, how do you wrap your head around such evil….
I'm dumbfounded that Mrs Holt & the school allowed Marion to leave the school, with a man who hadnt a clue about her being a twin & gave such a weak reason for the collection of the child the school should have checked with the fathers employers, delayed Hickman leaving & called the police, sheer lack of concern by the school over the child R. I. P. Marion such a sad end to a young life
That precious little Marion should have NEVER been released to anyone that the little girl didn't know!
The woman at the school has Marion's blood on her hands.
I couldn't believe that kid killed that little girl because he wanted money to go to school!!!
So heartbreaking for her and her family.
As always, Brief Case you are amazing at your work! ❤
I hope the registrar got jailed for negligence.
I read about this case in an obscure (and now probably out of print) book in 1986, and this is only the second time any of the many true crime channels I watch has covered it, and you were by far the most thorough! Kudos, Brief Case! 😊
Thankyou
Yowzer! What a terrible case. Thanks BC, well-researched and delivered as per usual.
What a horrible crime 😢
Thank you B C what can i say heart wrenching story