Old vs New! 987 Porsche Cayman & 718 GT4 on the Nürburgring😍

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    00:00 Intro/Specs
    02:08 Lap
    10:28 THoughts
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  • @Animal_lives_matter
    @Animal_lives_matter ปีที่แล้ว +165

    The steering wheel shot is really good, almost like augmented reality, we get a better idea of what you are doing in the corners

  • @addomas
    @addomas ปีที่แล้ว +251

    “Well, YOU need more powerful brakes” haha on point

    • @Syncopia
      @Syncopia ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "I don't go 9/10ths at the ring good sir!"

    • @Richie-C
      @Richie-C ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It was a super reply. You don’t rely how fast great drivers go til you are in the car with one

    • @Remenschneider
      @Remenschneider ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends, novice drivers tend to brake way too much, and overheat the brakes quicker than a more experienced driver would.

    • @MegaNardman
      @MegaNardman ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I loved this passenger. He gets what his car is built for, and it's not hot-lapping the ring. It's a fast (normal) street car 99.9% of the time. That it is so good on the ring is a testament to how good the 987 and newer boxster/caymans are.

    • @randominternetuser2888
      @randominternetuser2888 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MegaNardman true but the old cars550, 914, & 911 were just as good in their era. The reason porsche makes great cars is because they are all race cars, even their cayenne won races.

  • @cestusfr
    @cestusfr ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The 987 was so underrated when it came out. This car is a gem! To this day one of the best bang for buck with the 997 turbo and the R35 GT-R.

  • @jamsxr
    @jamsxr ปีที่แล้ว +54

    One of the most enjoyable laps I’ve watched. Sub 400hp (light ish) cars are where it’s at, far more enjoyable for us mere mortals, and in the hands of some like Misha they dance along the track 🕺

  • @matthiasmartin1975
    @matthiasmartin1975 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    As a fellow 987 driver this one warmed my heart. And I was surprised that Misha hasn't driven dozens of Caymans already - they seem so ubiquitous on the ring.

  • @MilesNotKilometres
    @MilesNotKilometres ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Haha - Thanks for the kind comments Misha, that's my little Toyota Vitz at 6.08min, but it's running standard power of 150bhp.

  • @JC7119
    @JC7119 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I got a 987.2 Boxster S and have zero regrets. I can't tell you how many times I've surprised people at track days with how quick it is with a bit of suspension, and just a tune. It's a fantastic platform.

    • @grad0n
      @grad0n ปีที่แล้ว

      How much extra power did the tune add?

    • @JC7119
      @JC7119 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@grad0n about 30 hp. Gonna do intake manifold and full exhaust over the winter see where it is then and decide if I wanna do a final drive.

    • @idek..5155
      @idek..5155 หลายเดือนก่อน

      did you get the pdk or the 6 speed?

    • @JC7119
      @JC7119 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@idek..5155 6 speed manual.

  • @blindobserver
    @blindobserver ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have a white 987.2 Boxster S with the 997GT3 brake master cylinder, race fluid and pads. The pedal is firm, the car stops on a dime and it's not difficult to engage ABS. Hoping to drive it on the Nordschleife soon!

  • @darrickschuch608
    @darrickschuch608 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Love how he really enjoyed that lap! Awesome to see him smile and let you just get it.

  • @lawzzers5737
    @lawzzers5737 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the 987.2 cayman S black edition (32/500) with pdk and sport chrono. I go back to this video every now and then, what a great lap! 😁Hope to see more cayman content in the future

  • @Teodor_Ivanov
    @Teodor_Ivanov ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm actually glad the speedometer go pro fell down to see that nice angle from behind , I don't know about others but I felt like I was in the back seat , crazy !

    • @SonicProvocateur
      @SonicProvocateur หลายเดือนก่อน

      No back seat in a 987. That shot is where the engine is! 😛 About 8 inches from your back!

  • @GethinJames
    @GethinJames 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just shows how the Cayman/Boxster platform is so enjoyable. Arguably more "fun" than higher HP, more "capable" P-Cars.

  • @ScopjeDisco
    @ScopjeDisco ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This model porsche looks great in white. A nice lap you did there, the car seemed a little less stable than your other porsche runs, but that must be because its not track-built and a daily driver.
    Thank you for sharing this lap, i enjoyed watching this one!

  • @mikeypv6
    @mikeypv6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love these camera angles... you can sense more speed even without seeing the speedo...

  • @nikven4830
    @nikven4830 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Loved it, new camera angles look fire as well

  • @MoepMoep-Movies
    @MoepMoep-Movies ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That is a beautiful car in white with the gold wheels! I really like it! And the performance seems to be quite good, too!

  • @Poorschedriver
    @Poorschedriver 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love the car. Suspension and buckets in a 987 really transform the car (I've got the same seats).

  • @antonoat
    @antonoat ปีที่แล้ว

    Great film. Micha thank you for sharing the last year here on TH-cam. Have a fantastic Xmas and I hope 2023 brings everything you wish for 👏👍😀🍾

  • @trizgrod8779
    @trizgrod8779 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Driver is an absolute monster. He was eating the track and everything in it 👏

  • @KulebyakMaster
    @KulebyakMaster ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Misha, earlier this year you drove drivetribe's manual M5 E61. I was wondering when will your video be released 🤔
    Спасибо за контент, сам в ближайшем будущем вряд-ли смогу приехать на ринг, поэтому твои видео как бальзам на душу :)

  • @hughraynor8670
    @hughraynor8670 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love the Cayman content!

  • @bbpleg
    @bbpleg ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Have had my cayman 987.2 for 10 years now and the first mod I did was the brakes! Giro discs, pagid pads, steel hoses, pfc fluid, gt3 brake master cylinder, gt2 brake ducts, titanium insulating plates and now it stops really well!

  • @snap4433221
    @snap4433221 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this one was awesome! Loved the car, the lap and the owner seems like a standup guy!

  • @zetlike4276
    @zetlike4276 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a amazing easy lap...its looks easier to do it!!! Damnnn what a magnificent car...love it!!
    Top lap Misha

  • @tomhuish7617
    @tomhuish7617 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I could really feel the grip the car makes from this video, makes me want this car even more

  • @iceb-akap77ice93
    @iceb-akap77ice93 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes. Very nice lap. And a comeback of the year. No you need better brakes. 😂😂 Excellent video

  • @gregmorgan9989
    @gregmorgan9989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep this pov it works so well and is better to see cause the outside view up top is easy to watch and still view driver prospective & the passenger view helps. Love the vids fam👊🏽💛💯

  • @guillermoguillermo4368
    @guillermoguillermo4368 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the over the shoulder angle. I hope it makes a come back.

  • @SteveSWC
    @SteveSWC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do like it when you’re driving cars like this at a very quick pace and then an even faster car comes past you! 🤯
    It goes to show it doesn’t matter how quick you think you or your car are, there’s always someone quicker. 👍🏼

  • @bimmer.joo34
    @bimmer.joo34 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's something about Cayman's that I feel like I adore 'em even more than GT3's and the 2008 GT2 or GT2RS which is my favorite porsche 🥰

  • @AutoloverNG
    @AutoloverNG ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a 987.2 s owner with the pdk and sport chrono watching this makes me want to track my car everyday

    • @blademanx
      @blademanx ปีที่แล้ว

      What country? In Nigeria?

    • @AutoloverNG
      @AutoloverNG 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

  • @geemac44
    @geemac44 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! A few extra chunks on the Caracciola-Karussell but sounded and handled great. Smiles all round😀👍

  • @nikos.m3
    @nikos.m3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice lap as always sir
    The bottom left camera view is very nice

  • @stoneeh
    @stoneeh ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ah, another one of my dream car :) Love me some Ultraleggeras too - they're mostly among the lightest wheels you can get for a certain size, that's why I chose them too - apart from them looking great. Bitch to clean tho 😅

  • @imtiyazdreyer1426
    @imtiyazdreyer1426 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lap, and owner alike!! Love your content, all the way from Cape Town, South Africa 🇿🇦

  • @mwjscn
    @mwjscn ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps a strap with velcro ends put over the GoPro base and wrapped around the column would help the camera stay attached? A small hole in the middle of the strap could be made to pass through the swiveling end of the GoPro attachment to sandwich the strap between the camera and the self-adhesive base. I think it would be pretty easy to add-in to your workflow when setting up the cameras and not be bulky to carry.

  • @mdub048
    @mdub048 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a sweet car! Thanks for a great lap. Would prefer the incar insets to be smaller than the track view. Just a thought. 😍

  • @DarkTouch
    @DarkTouch ปีที่แล้ว

    misha always so relaxed while driving fast, and just any old random dudes car without any problem, left foot right foot... like he's done years in the car.

  • @Ramsi-Berlin
    @Ramsi-Berlin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your driving style so much ❣️👌🏼
    It reminds me of the style from Walter Röhrl 😅
    Merry Christmas and all good things for 2023 Micha ❕
    Love from Berlin,
    Ramsi 😘🙋🏻‍♂️

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I wanted to build a 987 just like that! It's clearly everything I hoped for it!

  • @brightenupcc
    @brightenupcc ปีที่แล้ว

    The Cayman is built on a revised 986 platform that was never intended to race or be tracked. That is works on track too supports the brilliance of the original platform.

  • @barrymicockner
    @barrymicockner 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is a great video for me because I have been looking buying a 2012-2016 cayman S/GTS or a 718 cayman S/GTS 2.5

  • @Helium3Fusion
    @Helium3Fusion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For what you pay, greatest car ever made.

  • @drunvert
    @drunvert 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This reminds you why nobody needs anything more than a Cayman S or 718 S

  • @MrRalfster2001
    @MrRalfster2001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do have the almost exact same car for the NS, but pre-facelift.
    So 295hp, but also KW Clubsport 2-way, using 19" 997S wheels with Cup 2 also.
    I love it, it´s reliable, comparatively cheap to maintain and not slow at all.
    I could fix the brake issues by 90% after I tested a couple different pads and found that the good old Pagid RSL-29 work well with the OEM or ATE rotors that I use.
    Squeal but work 😉
    I´m only fighting with a bit of high speed oversteer because there are almost no street legal wings for this car in Germany.
    Did some small aero mods by now, more to come.
    Goal for 2023? Sub-8 BTG if I get a clean lap one day 😁
    The car can do it, I know that 🤣

    • @jamesr2936
      @jamesr2936 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are the options to increase power? I feel like this build would be insane with closer to 400bhp.

  • @weejim48
    @weejim48 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice lap. I would love to do a lap of the ring in my 986 Boxster S but I am old and scared. 🤣🤣🤣👍

  • @S4mmyH
    @S4mmyH ปีที่แล้ว

    Steering wheel shots are 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @kaveha1894
    @kaveha1894 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, nice video. I would love to see some one comparing the 2012 Cayman R & 718 GT4

  • @Pllutus
    @Pllutus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Props to the driver of the Green GT4🔥

  • @curvetrcalinga
    @curvetrcalinga 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s why I am not selling my CS and will not look further on any other models. It is a perfect adrenaline machine. I have put so much sweat and time in modifying its suspension, cooling and oil system. It’s a one adrenaline pump besides my 4c.

  • @wladimirwerz7393
    @wladimirwerz7393 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    987.2 sounds also amazing especially with headers.

  • @nordschleifevr4910
    @nordschleifevr4910 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    boy.. if that left cam was juuuuuust a little bit higher up....
    We could see the steering inputs and how the car reacts!
    Time to try different methods for speedo cams it seems .. they keep on letting loose

  • @Kpaxlol
    @Kpaxlol 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude that 987 interior looks better than the new one. With that wheel. Crazy.

  • @christopherbellisario9195
    @christopherbellisario9195 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the set up

  • @Belktronix
    @Belktronix ปีที่แล้ว +1

    scary when something falls out of sight and it can end up behind the break pedal! Misha should have told the passenger, hold the steering wheel while I find it... as J/C would say, some poo has shot out.... lol

  • @gabspopo2300
    @gabspopo2300 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great car, great sense of humour ! You can never go wrong in a Cayman !

  • @beemerboy4584
    @beemerboy4584 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤣 the think with the brakes. Very funny!

  • @VonF85
    @VonF85 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanx for the Video & Great Car 😊

  • @paulkrapp
    @paulkrapp ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice lap guys!

  • @KH-wp3lj
    @KH-wp3lj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love to see the 987.2 !! love my 2009!

  • @JuJu_Vega
    @JuJu_Vega ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the wheel & tyre setup? I'm planning to replace my 981GTSs OEM wheels as well

  • @SatoshiCommentorto
    @SatoshiCommentorto 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bring back this camera setup, this is awesome (no speedo cam). speedo cam could just be a small window in a bottom corner.

  • @sammyjjoo
    @sammyjjoo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The gearing is also good: no need to shift often gears

    • @Chris-cv6wy
      @Chris-cv6wy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not great for road driving. Worst thing about the cayman, sadly.

  • @tobitetdebit2330
    @tobitetdebit2330 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vid :) thanks guys
    I got the exact same car, the gt3 brake cylinder will be installed this week ^^
    What about the recaros, could you get them declared for TÜV? (assuming the owner is monitoring this chat :)

  • @elcentinela3434
    @elcentinela3434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video 👏👏💪

  • @zf8496
    @zf8496 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice lap! the car is still amazing
    BTW the red Toyota car is a Yaris (Vitz) with 1.7 VVTi i guess

  • @sdgsdgsdg54
    @sdgsdgsdg54 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I drive a 987mk2 base model 2.9. Totally love it.
    Is the oil cooling system performance enough for a track? 987mk2 doesn't have oil temp gauge so I'm worried when tracking it

    • @hka8972
      @hka8972 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would (I did) add the third Radiator. The owner of the car did it aswell. The temperature is otherwise quite high. Last summer without the radiator I was at 109c for water. Roughly speaking the oil are 20 degree above water.

    • @LuisMiranda-go7kx
      @LuisMiranda-go7kx ปีที่แล้ว

      My 2012 Cayman S does have a temperature gauge

  • @silviu.x2661
    @silviu.x2661 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the new camera angle

  • @tidysampler585
    @tidysampler585 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, that engine.. What an engine note to behold. Wow.

  • @slinavan
    @slinavan ปีที่แล้ว

    That Vitz was flying

  • @rabid_1
    @rabid_1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Cockster"
    - Jeremy Clarkson

  • @meowworld3878
    @meowworld3878 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn it is really fast when in pro driver.. it took the corner very smooth and powerful

  • @micheltebraake7915
    @micheltebraake7915 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dat zag er soepel uit, en dat groen ding met die grote vleugel kon je redelijk bijhouden.

  • @johnnyresistance
    @johnnyresistance ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the 987.2 cayman S, not very common with the manual, most people went pdk.

    • @blademanx
      @blademanx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Faster. A lot of ppl have had manuals over a decade. Just gets tiring with traffic and people doing 24 in a 30. If in the country side why not. After 2 hrs you start to get aches around the shin and ankles. Manuals were made for short country blasts. With auto i can drive longer with less rest and get out fresh

  • @sniperBOBAH
    @sniperBOBAH ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mods of the car in the description would be also nice.
    What are the pads actually?

    • @hka8972
      @hka8972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pagid RSL29

  • @stinkumm
    @stinkumm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was. Fast run

  • @carllynch8798
    @carllynch8798 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stunning 987 ! ❤😊

  • @MegaNardman
    @MegaNardman ปีที่แล้ว

    That owner is straight winning at life. "You need more powerful brakes." LOL

  • @backnunAndy
    @backnunAndy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder misha want to put 18 inch wheels with more rubber or stick with 19 inch wheels?

  • @ryder23yt53
    @ryder23yt53 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hugs From Mozambique,Africa

  • @ErikB750
    @ErikB750 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like you can’t go wrong with a Porsche. I really liked this session (and the camera angles) .
    Congrats to the owner for spec’ing and modding his Porsche to his needs.

  • @ddsgardening7437
    @ddsgardening7437 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice guy beautiful car handles amazing plenty of HP to have a great day out

  • @Syncopia
    @Syncopia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "That's a big wing, challenge accepted."

  • @R19Robbin
    @R19Robbin ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome car 👌

  • @mohammeda5753
    @mohammeda5753 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steering wheel angle 👍👍👍 please include it in future videos

  • @mattyp3119
    @mattyp3119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Caymans: gods car.

  • @RuyHosni
    @RuyHosni ปีที่แล้ว

    In Brazil we say: Esta foi no talo! (This one was on the stalk)

  • @adammt9615
    @adammt9615 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is his shirt from? Asking for a friend 😀..

  • @DoWorkExotics
    @DoWorkExotics ปีที่แล้ว

    987.2 ❤

  • @martinchapman2168
    @martinchapman2168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video

  • @aaardvaaark
    @aaardvaaark 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Terrifying and awesome. What a car, what a driver.

  • @alessiomntc
    @alessiomntc ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the 987.2 more suted for the track then 987.1? My .1 just blew up, rod bearings 😭

    • @boredalchemist
      @boredalchemist ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah much safer engine and more hp

  • @pumba5715
    @pumba5715 ปีที่แล้ว

    this camera angle is way better

  • @hangpilot1200
    @hangpilot1200 ปีที่แล้ว

    Getting noises like that out of Cup 2's means you're hauling a$$! ;-)

  • @alexfrost8561
    @alexfrost8561 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk why but this felt especially fast

  • @arctictruck10
    @arctictruck10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't wait till you wheel a scion frs around the ring

    • @rayanmalik5744
      @rayanmalik5744 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i think he already drove a gt86 which is the same?

    • @ottomobili2575
      @ottomobili2575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rayanmalik5744 yes they have one in the apex fleet and he has at least 10 videos of him driving it as far back as 2019

  • @blondhelmet
    @blondhelmet ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome

  • @deagt3388
    @deagt3388 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bez starca nema udarca! ;-)

  • @yeedub
    @yeedub 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gt3 master cylinder would fix the brake pedal

  • @moparedtn
    @moparedtn ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of few times I can recall actually hearing the brakes grinding when you hit them, Misha.
    Sort of makes me cringe when I hear them, like something's in need of attention there?
    Otherwise, a very enjoyable lap to watch, thanks to your usual expertise.
    - Ed on the Ridge