Yes!! Mall crawler/bro-dozer class. >2 light bars , >6 inches of lift, >20” wheels with ridiculous offset and rubber band tires; typically with an obnoxious,attention craving driver.......Oh yeah; these are off road builds
Remember Overlanders build their vehicles to stand up all terrains, sand, mud, rocks, snow, etc. therefore the vehicle should be very balanced. The hobby category usually build their vehicles for something specific like rock crawlers or mud or sand or a combination of 2. My point is overlanders will build their vehicles with all terrains in mind but that doesn’t allow them to be specialized in one area. In the other hand hobby class builds their vehicles for 1-2 terrains in mind.
I’m a weekend warrior and I love daily driving my jeep at least once a week I got people commenting me on it whether it’s on the road or a gas station/parking lot I just can’t imagine dumping all that money into it and not driving it everyday I love it that much lol
I'm old (61), i call it 4 wheeling with my girl-2007 dodge 1500, 4" lift with 34 inch tires (Cooper), fridge/freezer, pillow top mattress in back, awesome sound system, the biggest game changer was a professional crawl thru (Breezer Windows). We camp in the Sierras at around 9000' all summer - fall and the truck being "weatherproof" is extremely important (thunderstorms)
In Iceland, the most common builds are hobby builds and mixes of hobby builds and fully modified. The hobby builds are mostly on 33"-38" tires. The fully modified hobby builds are usualy on 40" to 46" and then there are the extremes that run upto 54" tires.
Hobbyist Off-road for sure, Our 93’ XJ is our family daily rig as well as our adventure rig. Building it more an more as we go. Our biggest Mod so far was the “Safari style seats” (seats 10 passengers) runnin 35’s with 4” lift so far.
Our off road Wrangler, (wife's is a Mall Crawler - mostly), is an overland build. It's gotten through some Moderate - Severe portions of some trails with some spotters. 2.5" Teraflex lift, 33 - KO2's, after market bumpers, winch, roof rack. It's very capable for what we use it for and still very cool looking as a daily driver.
I appreciate the xj in the beginning of the video but it’d be nice if you guys to mention the off road capability it has. Sure it’s a unibody but the Cherokee xj can show up most new wranglers.
I'm somewhere between stock and overland, I''d say "overstock" or "camping optimized" 2017 Tacoma TRD Offroad with stock driveline + Toyo ATs, a come-along for recovery and light bar/ditch lights. On the camping side it's more built out - RSI Smartcap load bearing shell w/ RTT mounted on it, battery pack, Drive Reach OTR Cell booster, Camp stove, cookware, water jerry cans etc etc
Mines a daily driver, weekend warrior. Jeep TJ, 12,500 lbs winch, rock sliders, bucket seats,harness seat belts snorkel, skid plates, king shocks, UHF radio, waterproofed electrics,remove axel,trans breathers, All roughly painted inside and out drab olive green on 30 inch tyres 😆
ZR2 is stock right now but over the winter it’s getting bumpers, skid plates, 4.56 gears, 35s, different wheels,4 more inches of lift. bed rack, RTT and a wheel and fuel carrier.
I thought we might cross into #2 a little bit, but I'm happy to find we are definitively in the #3 group as an Overlander. You forgot about Subaru! Our Subaru Ascent currently has Wildpeak AT/Trail tires, 18" wheels (down from 20" oem), full skid plates, a 2" (front) and 2.5" (rear) lift, and roof rack. Next month we add a swing-out hitch for full-size spare (with fold down table!), rear-lockers, rock sliders, winch, a welded front recovery point, and a lightbar. Haven't decided on the fridge or extra power setup yet. When it's not offroad it's our family (of 6) grocery getter.
My "stock" category rig (Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road) arrives from the factory in mid-September, 2022. The plan is to start with backcountry camping, then see where that leads me. For sure, I'll be interested in some solar energy equipment for charging batteries, and powering a second battery, which I'll use for non-truck appliances and recharging electronics, and maybe a tent heater.
Somewhere between overland and the hobby I think you called it, though I am planning on tweaking more and more towards the modified, but will fall short of your well described category. She's a 2020 diesel JLU Rubicon lifted on 37s.
Between stock and overland. Have a 2021 COLORADO ZR2 Dusk edition. Nice that stock it came with both front and rear locker, skids for all important components, fairly aggressive hybrid all terrain tires, and a mild suspension lift.
I'm between an overlander and hobbyist, got to have the long arms for maximum flex. And well the jeep is still my daily, I also have a lifted explorer sport with more of a softroader build
My new truck (2019 Ranger XLT Sport) is firmly in the stock category, but will slowly, and eventually, end up in the overlanding category. It’ll always be my daily driver, and my means not just to overland, but hunt, shoot, and tow a one horse trailer. I’ll never get to the more extreme limits of the overlanding class, let alone further. Most of the higher priced upgrades will have to wait till the truck is paid off and the warranties expire, when I can better afford the upgrades and repairs.
You forgot the “I started but never finished build” the “I changed my mind a billion times frankenbuild” and it does nothing well cuz I don’t know what I want build”.
My build is an 86 Bronco. Its a cross between over lander/ weekend warrior. I had a 90 wrangler that was a highly modified rock crawler. Now im finding just as much fun camping in the remote areas of the southwest as i did just crawling for a day. Great informative videos! 👍🏻
@@TrailBuilt you will. Once i purchase a tire and wheel package from you. I’ll send pics. Only issue im having is. I want Black Rhino Cinco in an 18”. With Gladiator X Comps in 35”. When checking on your site, its says Rhino doesn’t make it in my 5 on 5.5 Bolt pattern.
There are a few more I'd add to the list: Mall mudder or mall crawler: lifted/decked out jeep or toyota, looks legit, never sees mud or dirt Small man syndrome: usually a diesel, 6-8 inch lift, rolls coal, never sees dirt The offroading ricer: 28 light bars, cheap winch from harbor freight, rear spoiler, sticker bombed, nerf bar side steps, usually a grocery getter, never sees dirt. The ghetto rig: saved from the scrap yard, dubious installation, parts falling off, zip tied everything, still offroads but liability Shade tree mechanic: maybe not as professional when it comes to installing parts but tries, good understanding of the vehicle, decent upgrades but not the best. Huis the trails, usually gets stuck at some point, laughs it off. This is where a lot of us fall under :)
Building 3 rigs currently, a "stock" 57 1/2ton on 9.00/16s, an overlander 71 Travelall with JT axles and 35s, and a 7.3PSD version of the Prospector XL i guess fits the hobbiest class more then overlander.
Guess I'm the stock guy working towards the overlander. After all what the fun in hunting if you can't set up a base camp. Yep to and from work but those stock tires won't handle the trails,,, learned that the hard way.
I started my build just to be able to search out old 1800's western ghost towns. Then once there, I would do as they did it back in the 1800's. No phone, lights... Nothing. Just a fire from desert branches, meat a can of beans and a few gallons of water. I sleep on a Mexican blanket with a gun by my side. Best experience ever!!! Try it. It's addicting.
I suppose I fit into the "stocklander" category. I have an '04 Chevy Trailblazer EXT. Right now it has stock springs with a ReadyLift 2/1 leveling kit. It has 1-1/2" BORA aluminum spacers so I can run 265/70R17 Firestone Destination A/T2's. The tires have a mounted diameter of 31.7", so I guess they fit the 32" category. The leveling kit is the "death lift" style, with the front strut spacer that goes on top between the strut and the strut tower. FORGIVE ME! I didn't know any better! The rear is a puck that goes between the coil spring and the body. Plans for this spring are to install Moog 81069 Z71 Tahoe springs in the rear, keeping the aluminum puck, and Rough Country N3 shocks. The front will get a BDS 2" lift, the style that replaces the upper strut mount. I'm basically going to build new front struts using that, Moog 81114 coil springs, and Bilstein 4600 struts. I'm going to install a Badlands APEX 12,000 pound winch, setting it between the frame rails on top of the existing air bag support bar and through bolting the mount to the frame rails. The stock bumper cover will be retained, cutting it to fit as needed. It's a work in progress.
i think you are forgetting the teenage son/mom's minivan build..... you know street tires, 2wd front wheel, and a baby seat in the back seat for holding onto fragile things during the trip.... ;)
2018 JK sport 2 door, super lift 2.5" 33/12.5R17E's 4.56 gears no lockers, use daily and for hunting and fishing, but have been to Kansas Rock's but I prefer the mud over crawling on rocks
My Daily Driver is my 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road. Mine is stock as far as suspension and no lift yet. My old 2013 Taco was lifted wearing Toyo AT/II 285's. I did throw on some 32 inch BFG KO2's on my TRD Off Road and Fuel Wheels. I am pretty squared away with Recovery Gear minus a winch. I have only gone off-roading a few times since I bought the truck while hunting and up at the cabin. I am going to get rock sliders put on in the next few months and lift it and put some 33's on it in the next couple of years. Then someday down the road more armor, lightning and a winch. I guess I am in Stock Guy class.
I'm between overland and modified. 3 inch lift, 33s, locker, extended travel front IFS and rear solid axle. Roughly 8.5 inches of travel in the front and 12.5 inches of travel in the back with sway bars still connected, albeit, extended sway bar links. 2007 FJc. Will go further than a stock Wrangler (excluding Rubicon) but still comfortable enough to daily while staying capable and strong enough to handle some of the harder trails in OK. Next year I'm gearing down the diffs to 4.3/1~~ area to help with the bigger tires and being down the crawl ratio
Your land cruiser may last longer than the jeep but can’t compete with a solid axle and it’s wheel travel, the Jeep with the solid axle can hit hard bumps where the ifs must hit the same bump at less than half the speed, I recall going from my 1976 bronco to a Toyota and bending my upper bump stops from hitting the tiniest bumps where I could have pushed the solid axle bronco…. Night and day difference, IFS is only good if it’s a full long travel race suspension… that is if you want squeaky uniballs and constant maintenance…
Good video. I have a fairly typical weekend warrior JK, but man I like to check out fully modifieds at the offroad park and would like to build on one day. I love that they all seem to start with vehicles that were probably $500 at most before going all out on them. True gearheads.
Currently stock jeep jk. Plans to build it into an overlander but considering I have a 2 door it will be for shorter trips. And maybe many years down the road when I have the financial resources to do so build it into a proper rocker crawler
I have a lowered 2005 single cab Ram street truck and a 2020 2500 Hemi quad cab Lone Star black ⚫️ out Edition in 4x4. I would consider a level of some kind on the front and maybe tucking the exhaust and a dove tail on the back bumper. Outside of that I'm pretty much a stock guy. Most of my mods go into my 392 swapped street truck. I love to drive on and off road. Vacationing in the Rockies of COLORADO and back country driving up to altitudes that make me dizzy like the alpine trail are lovely experiences.
Not sure if I even fit into any category. My '07 Ram 2500 HD is a Laramie Edition that has a "purpose" build. I have all recovery and survival gear along with extras. I love to go off the beaten path, but never encounter an obstacle that I could traverse by taking a detour or just crushing it. Do I care which category I fall into? Nope, but I do enjoy watching your videos and day dreaming.
Wondering where our build fits in....a modified Toyota Tacoma, road legal. 44" tires, Fox racing shocks, bypass in the rear, coilovers in the front. 260liter fuel tank. 4:88 ratios, two transfer cases for even lower gearing when the snow gets really deep. Equipment to air down and up while on the go. Bead lockers, Air lockers front and rear. Lift is just about 2", space cut into the body to fit tires and have enough travel....the list of mods goes on and on. Designed in the offroad community in Iceland where trucks range from Suzuki on 33" tires up to Ford 350 on54" tires. All road legal but can traverse glaciers and long overland trips during winter in Iceland, just below the arctic circle. An icelandic company which modifies vehicles have a permanent fleet of vehicles in Antarctica as service vehicles for scientists and expeditions. Have crossed the ice cap of Greenland. They have also been exploring the Canadian wilderness in the north in a modded F150. A Tacoma with a similar build as ours also holds the land speed record to reach the South Pole... ;) The russians also have some impressive vehicles to cross the Siberian tundra. There is a lot more offroading done worldwide than just in the States. You guys need to expand your horizons.... ;)
Now this is wild!!!! We definitely need to expand our horizons because those builds would be interesting to see! This was a wicked comment I am going to show the guys tomorrow! 🤘😂
dont forget the WK's..... Always forgotten... I got a 2005 Jeep grand cherokee limited quadra drive 2 . 3 inch lifted, used to go anywhere other than rock crawling..good for towing, fun, daily driver, pretty good all around.
Some where between stock to overland. Though would never consider my JKU Rubicon hard rock in any class thats got all wheel drive vehicles in it. I've pulled out a few awd vehicles in my time of adventuring in the snow and back country
So I guess my rig will eventually end up in between overlander and hobbyist. Is primarily going to be over land but built and much as possible for more extreme terrain. It will be interesting to see what becomes of my truck a few years down the road...
Definitely overland 👍 I personally think Grand Cherokee WK with it's IFS and unibody construction (and equipped with 5.7 hemi and Quadra Drive 2) is one of the most comfortable ways to do overlanding. Sure some might consider something like Toyota to be more reliable, but while they're nice vehicles, I do enjoy my WK much more 😁
I'm running a 96 xj 4.0 ho with a 3 inch lift and ba$tard pack leafs on the rear and 30 inch mt tires. No lockers yet but a 12k lb ironman winch. I would classify myself above the softroader and below the overland build. I'd call it the budget built daily driven weekend warrior or the I have kids and an ole lady that come first build. Lol. I've ran some mild trails with wranglers on 33s and 35s with lifts and lockers and went all the way without help. We were all surprised.
I'm running what could be considered as Stock Plus. It's a 2004 Xterra with a PML (poor man's lift). It has a mild lift (2-3 inches) from longer rear shackles, and the front torsion bars have been adjusted. The body still rests on the frame with the stock pucks. Used mostly on-road, but quite capable off-road as well.
I guess I fit into the hobbyist class of off road. My TJ can drive just fine on the road but I’ve built it to go nearly anywhere and get back in one piece.
I'm the way out in the boondocks camping, hunting, fishing type of guy. I don't want to find others out there unless they have similar vehicles. I have a diesel Gladiator Willys.
Exellent video! I own the current gen AWD Tiguan which is definitely a softroader and not your typical vehicle found in offroad areas, but I have a set of slightly larger than OE Toyo Open Country AT3 tires that help a ton. The CUV has over 9 inches of clearance with the larger tires, which is right up there with most offroad packages on stock SUVs and pickups. There are a lot of torn up fireroads and offroad trails by my cabin and I drive those roads and trails often. Before getting the AT3's I took the OE "minivan" tires on those fireroads and there were a several areas that were impassible. Those tires simply had no grip and slipped on [steep] dry dirt and gravel softroad conditions. Since I installed the AT3's I hit those same fireroads and even with 1 wheel in the air the AWD system and those AT3's got the job done and I was able to drive past. I will admit, the AWD system has nowhere the level of offroad traction control the Toyota A-TRAC has. And the vehicle's traction control has a major fatal flaw; you can't brake assist to help transfer torque away from the slipping wheel. The engine management system cuts the power if you try to use the brakes and accelerator at the same time. So you must rely solely on the offroad traction control system. There is still a bit of tire slip before the system clamps the brake on the wheel that's slipping, but you would be very surprised at the fireroads and trails I have been able to navigate since just upgrading to AT tires. I use my softroader mostly for commuting during the week and driving dirt and gravel roads on the weekend for remote camping and hiking. That said, there are 3 things I won't touch with my softroader; mud, snow on the trails, and rock crawling. I'm adventurous, not stupid.
Sub-class of the hardcore class is the "tubed out shit box". The owner really should be in a full tube buggy, but gradually tubed out what used to be a fairly nice daily driver as the rocks got bigger and the rollovers more frequent. Usually results in having Ultra4 buggy money tied up in a XJ or 4runner that the only thing original is part of the firewall and a few feet of "frame rail"
I'm between hobbyists and fully modified. 2013 JKU on tons with front and rear ARB air lockers, 6.4 hemi conversion with 505hp at crank, rock-hard sport cage, 17in Pro- comp-trilogy series bead locks and 40's , Terraflex 6in long arm lift, falcon 3.3 adjustable shocks, Carolina driveline shafts, LOD rock sliders, warn zeon 8s winch, shaved 14 bolt. Did I need it? No! Did I want it? Yes!! MONEY PITS ? YES!!!!!
My rigs somewhere between overland and hobby .. Bit more capable then you standard overland build but still able to go camping. If gone camping in it iv also done river crossings and some rock crawling/ mudding in my truck but shes still plated and road legal and shel still do 110 ( shhhhh) on my street tires and do burn outs
My Jeep is close to the "fully modified" build, but not quite there. Doesn't get trailered and handles highways pretty well. It's a combination of aftermarket and fabrication.
I guess I fall in the over landers. 02 Pajero/Montero with 2" lift, stock size tires in All Terrain tred pattern. 2nd battery system with fridge and I sleep in the back of it when touring. It is also my daily driver/family car.
I’ve got a 2000 Ford Ranger that I’m building into a daily drivable light prerunner. Lengthened suspension travel, but not going all the way to a tube rear as I want to be able to use it as a pickup still. So nothing too crazy, although I bought a second motor to build so I can still daily my truck in the meantime.
Pre-lander. Overlanding, luxury PreRunner style with a Raptor. Minimal rock crawling, but getting way off grid for BLM camping and even sampling some high speed baja-style use.
We are human dogers. Our vehicle must be able to go places most people can't. Then I set up the glamping for the wife. We hide from other crazy humans and hang out with big foot, so we are the hobbiest type. Our rig does does and goes anywhere we want. And is built up, plus looks good at the mall. 😂
You forget “The TH-camr”. Built up according to their in-program sponsors, complete with obnoxious decals, cheesy techno music, and at least one eye candy Jeep pixie.
I am most deffo the 4th description, in a heavily modified 1985 vw T3. Overland Campervan. However, there is no way i would take it rock crawling when there is a nice grit road to the same destination. I would not drop it into that bog hole when there is a nice dry route running parallel. Overlanders depend upon their vehicles to live in. It’s not like a weekend of wheeling, we could be on the road for years.
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U forgot the mallcrawler 😂
LOL!
Shhh!! Mall crawlers are their biggest customers! 😁
Yes!! Mall crawler/bro-dozer class. >2 light bars , >6 inches of lift, >20” wheels with ridiculous offset and rubber band tires; typically with an obnoxious,attention craving driver.......Oh yeah; these are off road builds
Saw a TJ in Jersey with a slammed suspension and tiny wheels and tires quite a few years back. The bumper sat about 6 inches off the pavement.
literally only reason i clicked lol
Driveway ornament build...lives on Jack stands forever waiting on parts to come
Remember Overlanders build their vehicles to stand up all terrains, sand, mud, rocks, snow, etc. therefore the vehicle should be very balanced. The hobby category usually build their vehicles for something specific like rock crawlers or mud or sand or a combination of 2. My point is overlanders will build their vehicles with all terrains in mind but that doesn’t allow them to be specialized in one area. In the other hand hobby class builds their vehicles for 1-2 terrains in mind.
I agree, really the Overlander and Hobbyist are for all intents and purposes...the same.
I agree that's how my rig is built
Agreed
Somewhere between stock and overland😂🤷🏾♂️
Me too. 2016 sr5 taco
literally everyone is there unless your some sponsored IG page 😂 💰💰
Same. 🤣 Got an 02 Sierra, bone stock except for a light bar, bull bar, and 2.5" lift with 35" A/Ts
I like to off road in my rig, but not to sleep on it.
Same 2021 colorado ZR2.
One upgrade not included in the Overlanding that I can think of is increased spring weights to handle heavy loads of camping gear.
I’m a weekend warrior and I love daily driving my jeep at least once a week I got people commenting me on it whether it’s on the road or a gas station/parking lot
I just can’t imagine dumping all that money into it and not driving it everyday
I love it that much lol
I'm a mall crawler hence why my Jeep is named Maller
That green gladiator was looking good
I'm old (61), i call it 4 wheeling with my girl-2007 dodge 1500, 4" lift with 34 inch tires (Cooper), fridge/freezer, pillow top mattress in back, awesome sound system, the biggest game changer was a professional crawl thru (Breezer Windows). We camp in the Sierras at around 9000' all summer - fall and the truck being "weatherproof" is extremely important (thunderstorms)
I'm not far behind you! I'll be 61 this November.
In Iceland, the most common builds are hobby builds and mixes of hobby builds and fully modified. The hobby builds are mostly on 33"-38" tires.
The fully modified hobby builds are usualy on 40" to 46" and then there are the extremes that run upto 54" tires.
Hobbyist Off-road for sure, Our 93’ XJ is our family daily rig as well as our adventure rig. Building it more an more as we go. Our biggest Mod so far was the “Safari style seats” (seats 10 passengers) runnin 35’s with 4” lift so far.
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I'm the "ran out of funds guy". Nice wheels and tires tho. Lmao
Our off road Wrangler, (wife's is a Mall Crawler - mostly), is an overland build. It's gotten through some Moderate - Severe portions of some trails with some spotters. 2.5" Teraflex lift, 33 - KO2's, after market bumpers, winch, roof rack. It's very capable for what we use it for and still very cool looking as a daily driver.
I am probably one of the "overlander" types of drivers. I use my rig as a daily driver, mostly in snow in winter and mud other times.
Same
I appreciate the xj in the beginning of the video but it’d be nice if you guys to mention the off road capability it has. Sure it’s a unibody but the Cherokee xj can show up most new wranglers.
I'm somewhere between stock and overland, I''d say "overstock" or "camping optimized" 2017 Tacoma TRD Offroad with stock driveline + Toyo ATs, a come-along for recovery and light bar/ditch lights. On the camping side it's more built out - RSI Smartcap load bearing shell w/ RTT mounted on it, battery pack, Drive Reach OTR Cell booster, Camp stove, cookware, water jerry cans etc etc
Mines a daily driver, weekend warrior.
Jeep TJ, 12,500 lbs winch, rock sliders, bucket seats,harness seat belts snorkel, skid plates, king shocks, UHF radio, waterproofed electrics,remove axel,trans breathers,
All roughly painted inside and out drab olive green on 30 inch tyres 😆
im more of a flip-overlander. Just need more roof armor.
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You showed a GX in the modified class, nice, there a a few GX floating around on 37s and long travel suspension.
ZR2 is stock right now but over the winter it’s getting bumpers, skid plates, 4.56 gears, 35s, different wheels,4 more inches of lift. bed rack, RTT and a wheel and fuel carrier.
I thought we might cross into #2 a little bit, but I'm happy to find we are definitively in the #3 group as an Overlander.
You forgot about Subaru!
Our Subaru Ascent currently has Wildpeak AT/Trail tires, 18" wheels (down from 20" oem), full skid plates, a 2" (front) and 2.5" (rear) lift, and roof rack. Next month we add a swing-out hitch for full-size spare (with fold down table!), rear-lockers, rock sliders, winch, a welded front recovery point, and a lightbar. Haven't decided on the fridge or extra power setup yet.
When it's not offroad it's our family (of 6) grocery getter.
My "stock" category rig (Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road) arrives from the factory in mid-September, 2022. The plan is to start with backcountry camping, then see where that leads me. For sure, I'll be interested in some solar energy equipment for charging batteries, and powering a second battery, which I'll use for non-truck appliances and recharging electronics, and maybe a tent heater.
I roll a Chevy Silverado 2500HD 6.0 gasser. Elk hunting, work, tow rig. 2” lift, tall tires.
Somewhere between overland and the hobby I think you called it, though I am planning on tweaking more and more towards the modified, but will fall short of your well described category. She's a 2020 diesel JLU Rubicon lifted on 37s.
Between stock and overland. Have a 2021 COLORADO ZR2 Dusk edition. Nice that stock it came with both front and rear locker, skids for all important components, fairly aggressive hybrid all terrain tires, and a mild suspension lift.
Overlanding for sure, but I don't do the frig and crazy electronics cus it's my daily
I'm between an overlander and hobbyist, got to have the long arms for maximum flex. And well the jeep is still my daily, I also have a lifted explorer sport with more of a softroader build
My new truck (2019 Ranger XLT Sport) is firmly in the stock category, but will slowly, and eventually, end up in the overlanding category. It’ll always be my daily driver, and my means not just to overland, but hunt, shoot, and tow a one horse trailer. I’ll never get to the more extreme limits of the overlanding class, let alone further. Most of the higher priced upgrades will have to wait till the truck is paid off and the warranties expire, when I can better afford the upgrades and repairs.
You forgot the “I started but never finished build” the “I changed my mind a billion times frankenbuild” and it does nothing well cuz I don’t know what I want build”.
My build is an 86 Bronco. Its a cross between over lander/ weekend warrior.
I had a 90 wrangler that was a highly modified rock crawler. Now im finding just as much fun camping in the remote areas of the southwest as i did just crawling for a day.
Great informative videos! 👍🏻
Very cool! Would love to see it!
@@TrailBuilt you will. Once i purchase a tire and wheel package from you. I’ll send pics.
Only issue im having is. I want Black Rhino Cinco in an 18”. With Gladiator X Comps in 35”.
When checking on your site, its says Rhino doesn’t make it in my 5 on 5.5 Bolt pattern.
I fit in to the stock/soft roader.
Stocker here. Mainly fishing, hunting and camping
At the moment im a 17 year old weekend warrior running 32s on my 96 cherokee but im making my way to the next tier up
Give it time, doesn't happen over night unless you hit the lottery! Took me 51 years to get the rig I wanted and happy with.
@@1833201078 the lottery does sound amazing but thanks for the advice!
@@Mightymouse2400 a 96 Cherokee with 32s sounds nice too
xj gang! I got a 99
It made me smile when he mentioned YJ's in weekend warriors
I own a Barbie Jeep and have been called out by a little girl 🖕🏻
There are a few more I'd add to the list:
Mall mudder or mall crawler: lifted/decked out jeep or toyota, looks legit, never sees mud or dirt
Small man syndrome: usually a diesel, 6-8 inch lift, rolls coal, never sees dirt
The offroading ricer: 28 light bars, cheap winch from harbor freight, rear spoiler, sticker bombed, nerf bar side steps, usually a grocery getter, never sees dirt.
The ghetto rig: saved from the scrap yard, dubious installation, parts falling off, zip tied everything, still offroads but liability
Shade tree mechanic: maybe not as professional when it comes to installing parts but tries, good understanding of the vehicle, decent upgrades but not the best. Huis the trails, usually gets stuck at some point, laughs it off. This is where a lot of us fall under :)
Stock headed to overlander. Roof rack heavy duty rear springs awning
Building 3 rigs currently, a "stock" 57 1/2ton on 9.00/16s, an overlander 71 Travelall with JT axles and 35s, and a 7.3PSD version of the Prospector XL i guess fits the hobbiest class more then overlander.
Guess I'm the stock guy working towards the overlander. After all what the fun in hunting if you can't set up a base camp. Yep to and from work but those stock tires won't handle the trails,,, learned that the hard way.
I started my build just to be able to search out old 1800's western ghost towns. Then once there, I would do as they did it back in the 1800's. No phone, lights... Nothing. Just a fire from desert branches, meat a can of beans and a few gallons of water. I sleep on a Mexican blanket with a gun by my side. Best experience ever!!! Try it. It's addicting.
I suppose I fit into the "stocklander" category.
I have an '04 Chevy Trailblazer EXT. Right now it has stock springs with a ReadyLift 2/1 leveling kit. It has 1-1/2" BORA aluminum spacers so I can run 265/70R17 Firestone Destination A/T2's. The tires have a mounted diameter of 31.7", so I guess they fit the 32" category. The leveling kit is the "death lift" style, with the front strut spacer that goes on top between the strut and the strut tower. FORGIVE ME! I didn't know any better! The rear is a puck that goes between the coil spring and the body. Plans for this spring are to install Moog 81069 Z71 Tahoe springs in the rear, keeping the aluminum puck, and Rough Country N3 shocks. The front will get a BDS 2" lift, the style that replaces the upper strut mount. I'm basically going to build new front struts using that, Moog 81114 coil springs, and Bilstein 4600 struts. I'm going to install a Badlands APEX 12,000 pound winch, setting it between the frame rails on top of the existing air bag support bar and through bolting the mount to the frame rails. The stock bumper cover will be retained, cutting it to fit as needed. It's a work in progress.
i think you are forgetting the teenage son/mom's minivan build..... you know street tires, 2wd front wheel, and a baby seat in the back seat for holding onto fragile things during the trip.... ;)
2018 JK sport 2 door, super lift 2.5" 33/12.5R17E's 4.56 gears no lockers, use daily and for hunting and fishing, but have been to Kansas Rock's but I prefer the mud over crawling on rocks
You forgot the most popular build. The Mall-crawler Class
Overland class lift and tyre style with other mods minus the camping equipment
My Daily Driver is my 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road. Mine is stock as far as suspension and no lift yet. My old 2013 Taco was lifted wearing Toyo AT/II 285's. I did throw on some 32 inch BFG KO2's on my TRD Off Road and Fuel Wheels. I am pretty squared away with Recovery Gear minus a winch. I have only gone off-roading a few times since I bought the truck while hunting and up at the cabin. I am going to get rock sliders put on in the next few months and lift it and put some 33's on it in the next couple of years. Then someday down the road more armor, lightning and a winch. I guess I am in Stock Guy class.
I'm between overland and modified. 3 inch lift, 33s, locker, extended travel front IFS and rear solid axle. Roughly 8.5 inches of travel in the front and 12.5 inches of travel in the back with sway bars still connected, albeit, extended sway bar links. 2007 FJc. Will go further than a stock Wrangler (excluding Rubicon) but still comfortable enough to daily while staying capable and strong enough to handle some of the harder trails in OK. Next year I'm gearing down the diffs to 4.3/1~~ area to help with the bigger tires and being down the crawl ratio
Your land cruiser may last longer than the jeep but can’t compete with a solid axle and it’s wheel travel, the Jeep with the solid axle can hit hard bumps where the ifs must hit the same bump at less than half the speed, I recall going from my 1976 bronco to a Toyota and bending my upper bump stops from hitting the tiniest bumps where I could have pushed the solid axle bronco…. Night and day difference, IFS is only good if it’s a full long travel race suspension… that is if you want squeaky uniballs and constant maintenance…
Good video. I have a fairly typical weekend warrior JK, but man I like to check out fully modifieds at the offroad park and would like to build on one day. I love that they all seem to start with vehicles that were probably $500 at most before going all out on them. True gearheads.
Overlander, rebuilding a 1996 jeep grand Cherokee at the moment. Found her just sitting out on the field. She won't be ready until next year.
Stock class 97 Land cruiser factory lockers
To survive salt loaded roads and nor'Easter storms when even the plow gets stuck.
Currently stock jeep jk. Plans to build it into an overlander but considering I have a 2 door it will be for shorter trips. And maybe many years down the road when I have the financial resources to do so build it into a proper rocker crawler
I have a lowered 2005 single cab Ram street truck and a 2020 2500 Hemi quad cab Lone Star black ⚫️ out Edition in 4x4. I would consider a level of some kind on the front and maybe tucking the exhaust and a dove tail on the back bumper. Outside of that I'm pretty much a stock guy. Most of my mods go into my 392 swapped street truck. I love to drive on and off road. Vacationing in the Rockies of COLORADO and back country driving up to altitudes that make me dizzy like the alpine trail are lovely experiences.
My old Alfa Romeo GTV6 does not qualify! But I've started eyeballing those Jeep Cherokee XJ 2-door 5-speed 4.0L vehicles from the 1990's. :-)
Mixture of overland and hobby is where I fit in, but currently in the stock category
Not sure if I even fit into any category. My '07 Ram 2500 HD is a Laramie Edition that has a "purpose" build. I have all recovery and survival gear along with extras. I love to go off the beaten path, but never encounter an obstacle that I could traverse by taking a detour or just crushing it. Do I care which category I fall into? Nope, but I do enjoy watching your videos and day dreaming.
I'd like to prepare my infiniti qx80 as overland setup
Wondering where our build fits in....a modified Toyota Tacoma, road legal. 44" tires, Fox racing shocks, bypass in the rear, coilovers in the front. 260liter fuel tank. 4:88 ratios, two transfer cases for even lower gearing when the snow gets really deep. Equipment to air down and up while on the go. Bead lockers, Air lockers front and rear. Lift is just about 2", space cut into the body to fit tires and have enough travel....the list of mods goes on and on. Designed in the offroad community in Iceland where trucks range from Suzuki on 33" tires up to Ford 350 on54" tires. All road legal but can traverse glaciers and long overland trips during winter in Iceland, just below the arctic circle.
An icelandic company which modifies vehicles have a permanent fleet of vehicles in Antarctica as service vehicles for scientists and expeditions. Have crossed the ice cap of Greenland. They have also been exploring the Canadian wilderness in the north in a modded F150. A Tacoma with a similar build as ours also holds the land speed record to reach the South Pole... ;)
The russians also have some impressive vehicles to cross the Siberian tundra.
There is a lot more offroading done worldwide than just in the States. You guys need to expand your horizons.... ;)
Now this is wild!!!! We definitely need to expand our horizons because those builds would be interesting to see! This was a wicked comment I am going to show the guys tomorrow! 🤘😂
dont forget the WK's..... Always forgotten... I got a 2005 Jeep grand cherokee limited quadra drive 2 . 3 inch lifted, used to go anywhere other than rock crawling..good for towing, fun, daily driver, pretty good all around.
I'm gonna a soft roader once I get my rav4 built. Lightly modified with wheels, tires and maybe a 1.5" lift
Some where between stock to overland. Though would never consider my JKU Rubicon hard rock in any class thats got all wheel drive vehicles in it. I've pulled out a few awd vehicles in my time of adventuring in the snow and back country
So I guess my rig will eventually end up in between overlander and hobbyist. Is primarily going to be over land but built and much as possible for more extreme terrain. It will be interesting to see what becomes of my truck a few years down the road...
3rd Gen Tacoma TRD Off Road with 33's, Kings and other things. Overlander kind of but drive it like a trophy truck in the mountains.
Definitely overland 👍 I personally think Grand Cherokee WK with it's IFS and unibody construction (and equipped with 5.7 hemi and Quadra Drive 2) is one of the most comfortable ways to do overlanding. Sure some might consider something like Toyota to be more reliable, but while they're nice vehicles, I do enjoy my WK much more 😁
Overlander in progress ☝️
How bout doomsday/daily type. Ready to go anywhere but mostly daily driver.
I'm running a 96 xj 4.0 ho with a 3 inch lift and ba$tard pack leafs on the rear and 30 inch mt tires. No lockers yet but a 12k lb ironman winch. I would classify myself above the softroader and below the overland build. I'd call it the budget built daily driven weekend warrior or the I have kids and an ole lady that come first build. Lol. I've ran some mild trails with wranglers on 33s and 35s with lifts and lockers and went all the way without help. We were all surprised.
I'm running what could be considered as Stock Plus. It's a 2004 Xterra with a PML (poor man's lift). It has a mild lift (2-3 inches) from longer rear shackles, and the front torsion bars have been adjusted. The body still rests on the frame with the stock pucks. Used mostly on-road, but quite capable off-road as well.
I guess I fit into the hobbyist class of off road. My TJ can drive just fine on the road but I’ve built it to go nearly anywhere and get back in one piece.
Super capable hobbyist build!
I'm the way out in the boondocks camping, hunting, fishing type of guy. I don't want to find others out there unless they have similar vehicles. I have a diesel Gladiator Willys.
7 months later and those rims are still on back order lol damn I wanted to get them too
Exellent video! I own the current gen AWD Tiguan which is definitely a softroader and not your typical vehicle found in offroad areas, but I have a set of slightly larger than OE Toyo Open Country AT3 tires that help a ton. The CUV has over 9 inches of clearance with the larger tires, which is right up there with most offroad packages on stock SUVs and pickups. There are a lot of torn up fireroads and offroad trails by my cabin and I drive those roads and trails often. Before getting the AT3's I took the OE "minivan" tires on those fireroads and there were a several areas that were impassible. Those tires simply had no grip and slipped on [steep] dry dirt and gravel softroad conditions.
Since I installed the AT3's I hit those same fireroads and even with 1 wheel in the air the AWD system and those AT3's got the job done and I was able to drive past. I will admit, the AWD system has nowhere the level of offroad traction control the Toyota A-TRAC has. And the vehicle's traction control has a major fatal flaw; you can't brake assist to help transfer torque away from the slipping wheel. The engine management system cuts the power if you try to use the brakes and accelerator at the same time. So you must rely solely on the offroad traction control system. There is still a bit of tire slip before the system clamps the brake on the wheel that's slipping, but you would be very surprised at the fireroads and trails I have been able to navigate since just upgrading to AT tires.
I use my softroader mostly for commuting during the week and driving dirt and gravel roads on the weekend for remote camping and hiking. That said, there are 3 things I won't touch with my softroader; mud, snow on the trails, and rock crawling. I'm adventurous, not stupid.
I have an overland daily driver build, for extreme climates, I can drive from Peru to Canada, I run 3 jackery
Dang! You are prepared!
The lady that past by while filming? Your firerd!
I'm transitioning.. from hobbyist to modified 🤣 as I sit in my shop chair looking at my bare tub and frame TJ 🔥⚡💥
Sub-class of the hardcore class is the "tubed out shit box". The owner really should be in a full tube buggy, but gradually tubed out what used to be a fairly nice daily driver as the rocks got bigger and the rollovers more frequent. Usually results in having Ultra4 buggy money tied up in a XJ or 4runner that the only thing original is part of the firewall and a few feet of "frame rail"
Im most likely an Overlander! Hands down. 😎💚💚💚💚💚
Prerunner! 🤙🏻🤙🏻
bad asses
thats what I'm looking to build
I'm between hobbyists and fully modified. 2013 JKU on tons with front and rear ARB air lockers, 6.4 hemi conversion with 505hp at crank, rock-hard sport cage, 17in Pro- comp-trilogy series bead locks and 40's , Terraflex 6in long arm lift, falcon 3.3 adjustable shocks, Carolina driveline shafts, LOD rock sliders, warn zeon 8s winch, shaved 14 bolt. Did I need it? No! Did I want it? Yes!! MONEY PITS ? YES!!!!!
My rigs somewhere between overland and hobby .. Bit more capable then you standard overland build but still able to go camping. If gone camping in it iv also done river crossings and some rock crawling/ mudding in my truck but shes still plated and road legal and shel still do 110 ( shhhhh) on my street tires and do burn outs
Currently we have an 18 JLU overland category but will probably end up closer to hobby class before the bank account runs dry...
I'm stock modified, fullsize truck, working towards an overlander
Beginning Racer Jeep Wrangler JLU, 1.5 lift kit, Falcon 3.3 shocks, teraflex bump stops, Alpine IR control arms, Prorock 44 axle, top off road speed 30-40mph
I'm in the stock class (no money in the upgrade budget)
What about the sticker class. Plaster with all the off-road stickers automatically make them trail worthy.
My Jeep is close to the "fully modified" build, but not quite there. Doesn't get trailered and handles highways pretty well. It's a combination of aftermarket and fabrication.
I guess I fall in the over landers. 02 Pajero/Montero with 2" lift, stock size tires in All Terrain tred pattern. 2nd battery system with fridge and I sleep in the back of it when touring. It is also my daily driver/family car.
I’m def the stock build.
I’ve got a 2000 Ford Ranger that I’m building into a daily drivable light prerunner.
Lengthened suspension travel, but not going all the way to a tube rear as I want to be able to use it as a pickup still.
So nothing too crazy, although I bought a second motor to build so I can still daily my truck in the meantime.
Id say my brothers and myself are in the hobbyist/fully modified area. Early Broncos running on tons, mine even has a cummins.
Pre-lander. Overlanding, luxury PreRunner style with a Raptor. Minimal rock crawling, but getting way off grid for BLM camping and even sampling some high speed baja-style use.
We are human dogers. Our vehicle must be able to go places most people can't. Then I set up the glamping for the wife. We hide from other crazy humans and hang out with big foot, so we are the hobbiest type. Our rig does does and goes anywhere we want. And is built up, plus looks good at the mall. 😂
My offroad class is land rover defender.
I think I would fall into the hobbiest class.
You forget “The TH-camr”. Built up according to their in-program sponsors, complete with obnoxious decals, cheesy techno music, and at least one eye candy Jeep pixie.
Which one's the eye candy?
and intentionally doesn't reinforce things to have more click bait titles
"We BrOkE oUr StOcK aXlE oN 40'S!!!!!! OMG WOW *GONE WRONG* 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥"
@@landenew or like one I saw today, 3 axels broken in 1 day. Will promote any brand if the price is right.
@@TrailBuilt you are, Josh. Especially with the beard. 😘
I am most deffo the 4th description, in a heavily modified 1985 vw T3. Overland Campervan.
However, there is no way i would take it rock crawling when there is a nice grit road to the same destination. I would not drop it into that bog hole when there is a nice dry route running parallel.
Overlanders depend upon their vehicles to live in. It’s not like a weekend of wheeling, we could be on the road for years.
I suddenly feel quite basic 😂 overlander upgrading to Dana 60s🙏🏽👌🏽
Overlander with armor. I live out of my Tacoma because I work seasonally for the USFS and NPS. Rent free, nomadic life.
Some nice shots of ZNP.
Hard to say! I love rock climbing but not no where near modified lol