My new rule: On a unknown trail and it’s getting bad, get out and walk it. Don’t just keep going as you may not have a turn around spot ahead. Get out and go for a walk before you end up in a bad spot. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Great advice! Learned this same lesson a few weeks ago. Luckily we stopped while one vehicle was still unstuck, we were able to get the other out and turned around.
One lesson I learned when traveling in a group is to always keep the rig behind you in view. If they disappear, slow down and give them a moment to come back into view. If they don't reappear - radio to see if they need assistance, or if you need to go back, or if the group should stop.
Came across a group of side by sides a week ago on Hells Revenge in Moab, their second-to-last rig had gone through all his tires, and the front of the group didn't realize until they were almost done... I'm sure it made for a long day, with a couple of them having to take another tire back in to the stranded side by side... :)
That is a rule repeated at the start of every run in my club. If you follow this I don't think a radio is essential unless you like to make wisecracks along the way.
I took a Jeep “off road safari” as a cruise excursion in Alaska and we were the next to last Jeep and I kept slowing down to keep the last rig in view, and the leader kept barking at me to keep up and I kept fighting them “you never let the rig behind you out of your view!” They went as far as to say “if we need to get another driver in your Jeep, we will” and I said something along the lines of “the only way I’m speeding up is if the Jeep behind me does.”
I would include an overnight bag. Just in case you get stranded and need to spend the night out. This can happen with bad weather that can trap you from a couple of hours to overnight. My bag includes a sleeping bag or blanket, dehydrated food, water, a heating source for food, and body warmth. Just Basic survival items.
This is something , weather your off reading , or , one’s daily commute , there should be some sort of survival/emergency gear in the vehicle at all times ,
Very good point! When I lived in a colder environment that got snow I kept a bag such as you mentioned in my vehicle year round. I’d swap out the food periodically
One mistake I see more experienced offroaders make is NOT putting their vehicle into 4WD. They always brag "I haven't used 4WD yet". But having your vehicle in 4WD can help you get out of some dicey situations. For example, a steep downhill with a drop-off. We had one guy going down a drop-off and as soon as his front tires went down, his back end started to go over. We all yelled "Gas!" and since he was in 4WD, he was able to avoid doing an endo. Being in 4WD helps you to maintain better control of your vehicle.
SLOW DOWN. Getting in a hurry has lead to more mistakes than anything else. You get in a hurry, forget to hit the sway bar disconnect, climb up a big wash, put a 37 4 feet in the air and then come down a little too hard and slide the back door into a boulder (ask me how I know). Then it's off to the body shop... Pro tip: slow down, take your time, make sure everything is set and you have your line and then go slowly. That's my $0.02...
"Let someone back home know where you're going!" First and foremost and as always, thank you for your service Brad! I'm an avid boater and enjoy off roading on the beach. Either way, I will not start my trip unless someone back home knows where I'm going and how to communicate with me. Unfortunately, I rarely hear that advice in the off-road community. In my opinion, it's great to have the best communications, gear or tech for your Jeep. But if Murphy's Law joins you in overlanding, ask yourself this, "Where would First Responders start to look for you first?"
I always tell my wife where I'm going and when I get to camp, I send her a text via my Zoleo so she knows I've arrived safely and send her my coordinates.
#1 best piece of advice for anyone. Veteran or beginner offroader alike. You NEVER KNOW what might happen. Adding to this, if you want to take it a step further, carry a satellite phone. Especially if going solo. It could save your life.
Water crossing.... Get your feet wet. I can't tell you how many times I thought I was going through a large puddle and it turns out to be a big hole. Use a long stick or Wade through it... Safe travels Perry
And check for rocks, had a buddy do a stick test well he just found one rock, and said it was good to go, turns out after we went over that one little bitty rock it was an abyssal trench
I can't stress the "don't tailgate" advice enough. I often wheel with an organized group (many of which are brand new to off- roading). Several times, I've had to stop and ask a driver behind me to hang back a little. This is particularly important in wet or slippery conditions.
I think a lot of this can be summed up with TESTING your gear. knowing how to hook up your compressor, knowing how to use the traction control features of your car, etc. My first time wheeling I couldn't figure out how to get ALSD to engage in my toyota and spent 10 minutes stuck. I didn't know what the feature was called, so I didn't know how to look it up. Another big one. Maybe the number one for some vehicles: If you have a spare that is mounted under the bed or under the trunk, take it out of that spot and put it somewhere else when wheeling. if you get a flat, it may not be possible on the trail to jack up enough to get the damn spare out. Also, bring a real jack and an impact wrench. Why bother with those horrible little jacks unless you are REALLY tight on weight. a harbor freight aluminum jack and a battery impact makes tire changes way way way better. If you go exploring old mining areas, you WILL get flats.
1) DO NOT stand inline with a winch cable under load. Pretend you’re being shot at. As a former Search and Rescue 4X4 team member. Before you go into the back country think of the worst thing that could happen, then plan for worse than that.
As someone with 0 experience, I was expecting a video stating the importance of crazy modifications. This was good useful information!!! The comments are also helpful. Seems like knowledgeable and helpful people… refreshing!!
Learned this recently: the iPhone 14 and 15 have a satellite SOS feature that will allow you to text for emergency help via satellites. I keep a ham radio, GMRS comms, and my iPhone with me so I have three means to communicate. Many newer ham radios can also do APRS location beaconing. Another thing I learned over the past weekend: don’t be afraid to backtrack if you take a wrong turn. I almost got myself into a bad situation because I was hesitant to backtrack. Also, make sure someone knows your general location when you are out.
Most people do not realize at first how much more fuel they will use off road. In low range and slow travel it is easy to cut your MPG in half. Carry some extra fuel especially until you learn your vehicles thirst for fuel. A new quick tip for airing up is the new Milwaulkee M18 cordless air inflator. It is 2 to 3 times faster at airing up a tire compared to others.
My 2dr Rubicon was getting between 4.8 - 7mpg on Top of the World trail I probably got the same on most of the trails but wasn't keeping track I carry 2x2 gallon Gerry Cans just in case
I’ve got a 12 gallon TrailTrekker siphon tank on the back which has saved me more than once. My 2dr wrangler only has a 17.5 gallon tank ( if I’m not mistaken ) so for a multiple day overland trip it’s always full at the starting point. Plus you never know what’s ahead if you’re exploring…
This is why EVs won't become off-roaders. EV owners will have to carry a generator and gas cans if they want to do anything more than a short trail, at which point they may as well have driven a normal gas 4x4 and carried the gas without the generator.
@@bwofficial1776EVs just have to be a little more careful about range. Not a big deal. Before I did the White Rim trail in Moab (about 100 miles off-road) I did a few other trails to calibrate my off-road mileage calculations. Turns out that for my Rivian I get about 85% of my on-road range when driving easy off-road trails like White Rim. Harder, slower trails are less efficient (but that’s true in ICE vehicles, too) but they tend to be much shorter so there’s plenty of range anyway. But just to be ridiculous: an ICE vehicle is totally dependent on the fuel it carries. Yes, it’s relatively easy to carry quite a lot. But when it runs out you’re 100% stuck. And EV could carry a solar panel and thereby have an essentially infinite range. Of course, it would be ridiculously slow (a few miles per DAY)
Remember that all vehicles are not the same and won't act the same on a trail. A vehicle with independent front suspension (IFS) will handle differently than a vehicle with a solid front axle, think Bronco or Xterra versus a Jeep. Many times I can't take the line the jeep took simply because of how my vehicle and suspension will react. (Look at the quick clip where Brad's Bronco got real tippy... been there in my Xterra and it is a real scary feeling).
Keeping your max trail difficultly level at 70%-80% of your and your rigs capability is always a good one. Always taking the bypass when you have friends and family with you is another one.
Just sending it is one of the big mistakes. I see people hammering on their vehicle, getting high wheel speeds, chewing up the trail and getting a wheel bouncing - just begging to break an axle or universal joint. Crawl it, back up and pick up a different line, get a little momentum, take a by-pass. Just hammering on your vehicle thinking you can power through an obstacle should be an absolute last resort, if you even do it at all!
I started bringing a trash bag with me in a rear hatch when I'm kayaking, and more often than not, I'm bringing back trash at the end of a trip. Agree 100%, leave it better than you found it.
My big tip is to keep a close eye on the weather in the trail area for at least a week or two before you head there! I had run this one trail at least 3 times before, and so I was bringing a friend along on my 4th time. It had rained a lot a a couple weeks before we went, but we thought it'd be dry enough now to do. The trail was completely washed out and we had to turn around less than a mile in. Just reaching a turn around spot I scored some minor under body damage because it had washed a bunch of big rocks into the trail. This was a trail where I have never touched anything before, and this was not even the bad part yet. So be mindful of how the weather might have effected the trail well in advance!
I wish I had known some of these when I was a new offroader. I'm more seasoned now, but I still learn new things. Which is good. We can never stop learning. I would add bring food with you because if you're going to be out even for a bit, it can get exhausting, so even just some snacks can keep you going. Also water especially on hot days. Not just for you but your vehicle too.
Water is definitely something I really drove home with my wife when we started hiking on a regular basis. We have a hard set rule to not get below 1/2 of our water before we go back. Also, never under estimate how much water you will need, (and need to be DRINKING) in cold weather. You won't feel the need for a drink as much as you do in hot weather, but you still need to hydrate. Cold air is dryer then you realize, and just normal breathing can dehydrate you more than you realize. Just because you are not hot and sweating doesn't mean your not loosing hydration. To make matters worse, dehydration can affect not only mood, but more importantly judgement. We all know where bad judgment can get you in an offroad situation.
I've led a few trail runs locally here in Southern Oregon and its important to work as a team, especially with newer offroad drivers in the group. Clearly explain the day as its planned out, get out and walk obstacles together as a group and tell them what they can expect and tackle obstacles one vehicle at a time as a team. With everyone communicating and working together, it makes the day alot more fun for everyone and will help each driver build new skills and confidence!
This is exactly how we run our tiny offroad group of about five vehicles. We brief the trail at the trailhead and stop at every major obstacle and help each other through. We love the camaraderie and enjoy helping and seeing each other be successful. Even being the ‘most experienced’ I let the newer offroaders practice giving advice and talking them through spotting.
I’ve been off-roading for a few years now and you are absolutely right. Unfortunately, almost everything I have learned has been from making mistakes. Mistakes that have cost me thousands of dollars, and in a couple of cases, have been life threatening. The two things that have gotten me into the most trouble have been going out alone, especially in the winter. I live in Montana and have learned how easy you can die doing that. The other is learning to put your vehicle in to 4 low and lock your axles BEFORE you need them. Once you are stuck, it’s too late.
One mistake that I made when I was new to off-roading was not paying attention to the terrain when it appears to be easy. I almost drove my Jeep into a mine shaft out in the desert because I was just messing around driving over anything that was in front of me. If you can't see what's in front of you, get out and look. You just might drive into a big hole in the ground!
I've had my ham radio license over 30 years. Most people will rather get a GMRS radio because there's a little more involved into getting a ham radio license / test. Always enjoy your videos man.
Some people like to Off-Road alone as they don’t like being with other people. If that’s the case, plan well, watch the weather and know your limits - if alone never push things to 100% and be prepared to backtrack. Not every 4WD HAS 4 Low. GMRS is not allowed in Australia. We use UHF. I have a tyre deflator and a compressor but only air down when necessary. The more you air down the less load your tyre can take and the more you will shorten its life (tyre wall will not last as long aired down and you’ll get uneven tread wear). I agree with airing down BUT only when it’s necessary - don’t just do it cos you’re driving on gravel - air down at the point you NEED to and back up again as soon as possible to prolong tyre life.
I grew up with an adventurous driver for a father. He took 2wd vehicles places they did not belong. Once we got our first Jeep it was more of the same but we learned quickly to not wheel alone when possible. That said, I’ve had to learn to back off and evaluate the comfort level of my passengers, especially my wife. She is slowly coming around and has even done some light off-road driving recently.
As a fairly new off roader, these tips are definitely super helpful for those who are first starting out! Wish I had these right when I started getting out on the trail because I made several of these mistakes in the beginning too.
People forget tools( ask a mechanic what tools you need for the trail. Which will cut your weight down.) and adding zip ties and a little bailing wire never hurt. A couple of Torque wrenches of different sizes and a breaker bar! are a must.....Learned that the hard way. Oh and a biggie even for seasoned off roaders.....never ever stop learning. Sometimes learning how to do things differently than you know how is a great benefit. Something I am actuality doing myself of late got hit by a stray golf ball and ended up with my 5th major concussion. I have gaps in my memory as result. But I also have friends I wheel with that know and help me remember. And gave me a hard hat ! It's humbling experience to know the hard stuff but not the simple basics. But I learned it once can do it again! Thanks Brad for this reminder.
One of things I've learned from, is to not buy every piece of gear I see or hear about unless I know I have an actual use-case for it (the only thing this does not apply to is safety and recovery gear - I don't care what anyone says, you can never have too much of this stuff!). As much as we all love toys, we have to make sure they are practical and usable so we are getting the most out of our experience, and or gear!
I can tell your a Vet. USMC myself. 100% on point my Squid. I was thinking of doing a video like this, but you have covered this topic completely. I will share this video with my group since they don't listen to Marines. Excellent video , editing and presentation! Semper Fi.
Making it fun is paramount. I am a huge believer in sharing my experiences. I share them with my family. I want my family to enjoy their time on the trails, so making it fun... there isn't any other way. 😁 Thank you for this list. Some stuff I need to add to mine!
@@TrailRecon Amen. And, it's why your vids w your boys hits home so hard. My son is currently serving overseas, and am eagerly awaiting his return, as I am sure you are very familiar with. Appreciate you sir!
Great video. A 100% agree at all the points. One of my mistakes was buying the wrong or too cheap mods. So I had to double spend money. And of course I did the mistake to go out alone until my Jeep got stuck haha
I've learned that lesson the hard way. Not just in off-roading, but with most things it pays to buy quality products. Otherwise, you just end up replacing them and spending even more money.
Yep. I just bought a recovery strap rated for a ohv for my Landcruiser. 😂 Thankfully I discovered my mistake before I used it. Having a seasoned offroader audit your recovery gear is another good idea.
I'm blessed coz all this stuff is common sense to me, but, i do go out alone but I'm uber prepared to do so. And i also don't take unnecessary risks. I'm out to explore and see stuff not get into trouble lol
A very well done video and all 12 points are good advice. The majority of the four wheeling that I have done has been desert and the one suggestion that I would make; is always plan for the worst case scenario. I did do some solo off roading when I first started years ago, but I learned that even if you start off with a group of other off roaders, it is possible that you get separated or cut off from the rest of the group by flash floods, wrong turns, vehicles breaking down. So, I always have my vehicle well stocked with food, fuel, water, clothing, stove, communication gear, emergency equipment, etc. that way if you I get separated I can be self sufficient . Thank you for sharing, happy trails!
#4 @ 5:00 should have included water and non perishable snacks. Also perhaps in the communication section: let someone not on the trip know where you plan on being, the route and time of return. Be sure to check in the trip is over or call when you are running late. On those occasions where I check in at a ranger station, I always ask when they close so I can call before closing time and advise them of my progress. Learn how to use your navigation device (GAIA, On X or whatever) before your first trip. Great video, Thanks for sharing.
In my 50 years of off roading I've seen way to much bad behavior and foolish choices by drivers who think they are the only ones out there who matter. Both newbies and vets who are never prepared, thinking the skinny pedal is the only one needed and have the trail etiquette of a ragging bull. But on the opposite side I had the good fortune to learn from some very seasoned off roaders who schooled me in the proper ways. Thanks to them all my trips have been nearly drama free. There is no reason to go out uninformed in today's world, with all the info available from multiple sources. Keep the shiney up, be prepared and responsable and go have fun and adventure. My years on the trails can not be replaced by anything else. Thanks for the informative videos Brad.
I agree with all the mistakes that are listed... I think, the most universal mistake, "Don't bite off more than you can chew" If you're not comfortable, with the trail, or your position, it's not worth damaging your vehicle, getting stuck, or simply making things worse if you don't feel comfortable. It's better to wait and reattempt than try to force your skill or knowledge. There is no shame in turning around and re-evaluating your situation. It's akin to watching people getting in car accidents on a snowy day... a few hours of patience keeps away car insurance, regret, and disappointment.
Thanks for starting out with the most important one - not going out alone. There is infinite inspiration online. You can get all kinds of crazy ideas, and it's easy to get the impression that something is easy because you saw someone do it in a video. This goes for so many things, including hunting. If you don't know anyone who will go with you, go meet someone! You get the double benefit of new hobbies and new friends, and you'll save yourself a lot of time, frustration, and medical bills.
Great advice in here. A lot may seem obvious but I'll back you up 100% on #11 - Planning your time. Here in the Caribbean we do a lot more mud and bushy offroading and it can take a long time to cover short distances. And the last thing you want is to be stuck under thick tree canopy with the sun going down lol
Don’t be afraid to say “enough” I was going up one last year, and got to a point where I just said “nope” and turned around. Know when you don’t have the skills or vehicle necessary for a particular obstacle. This supposed to be fun. Rolling over a cliff is not fun.
ahah 4 low... I forgot all about that my first time out. Someone finally radioed me to check on why I was having so many issues. Being with experienced people is such a help, the biggest help is the experience gained from others and being open to their input.
I love your point of not freaking your family out. My daughter is 13 and she is an expert at picking lines. This will be her year to start driving. This is truly a family sport.
Question. When you say preasure down tires, how do you know what preasure? Is there a specific rule of thumb? I am definitely new to offloading. So go easy.
I bought that Front Runner chair and love it (one for my husband too). I love how compact it is and I can leave it in my Jeep. I always forgot my old chair because it was too big to leave in my Jeep.
I think one skill that new off-roaders need to practice two - foot driving. Especially when the trails get more difficult. I know this is something I learned from some more experience people, and it helped a ton.
All great suggestions. I also recommend that new drivers take a course. Here in CO we have them everywhere. They will teach you a lot of these basics and give you time to practice them with an experienced off roader.
Number 1. This depends on the person YOU are, and who “they” are. I’ve seen lots of new guys get talked into wrecking their rig by being talked into doing stuff they weren’t qualified to do. I’d say “Go with a group of responsible drivers”
Every trip or camp I go on I take notes in my phone on how can I improve things, what I need to re-stock, what I need to buy. Over the years that's allowed my setup to be pretty dialed in for me. Also even if your rig is your daily you can store lots of things you should always have - med kit, fire extinguisher, lighter, head lamp, multitool, duct tape, paracord etc...then you won't forgot those random items.
Sometimes taking a “wrong” turn can lead you to wonderful things along awesome routes as well. However, it’s always good to use GPS with tracking AND Satellite maps. Radios…. I have all GMRS, Ham, and CB. As well as I use “Spot” for emergency Sat recovery.
Great video. I’d like to add listen to your spotter. They can see stuff you cannot, pay attention. Also, make sure it’s easy to get to your recovery gear. I used to keep everything in the back, which was a pain when you get stuck and have to open the tailgate to get a tree strap and winch controller. Now I keep the winch controller, tree strap, and shackle in easy reach.
More essential is a trusty spotter. Plenty are morons and you should not listen to them as they get you into worse trouble (from many videos I’ve seen). Make sure it’s a reliable trustworthy person.
Since the Summit at Merus I did get a second soft shackle for my recovery kit. Definitely a lessoned learned. When in doubt get out and walk the trail if you need to, look at the lines.. figure out tire placement. And I try and avoid mud holes if and when possible..
4Lo M2 for most BOH trails in Moab and Colorado also helps with braking on the way down without overheating your brakes I just don't get drivers who rush through the trails, I like to get out every so often and enjoy nature and take pictures
Always great advice for new & seasoned off roaders. Just stepped into my first Jeep here in the US, but an experienced overlander from Australia (Toyotas & heavy off-road rigs). Great channel, informative & entertaining. Mate, you Rock! See you out there.
@TrailRecon Especially enjoyed your trek onto Frasier Island (Australia). Did you get up to Cape Yorke ? Gotta put the Kimberly's & Bungle Bungles on the bucket list. Thanks again for your great content, cheers
Great video! I would expand just a little on your tip about going out with an experienced off-roader. Having an experienced off-roader that you trust can help build your confidence in your abilities and in your vehicle. Many times, I was encouraged and walked through obstacles that I had zero confidence that I could make. But through thier guidance, I now have a much better idea of where my abilities are and the capabilities of my vehicle.
First thing would be to see if the experienced off-roader actually has more experience than yourself, and not just someone who has done a few trails but has a new rig with all the gadgets and doodads but has never used any of it.
To many people go offroading and don't know how to use the gear on there vehicle or even get it unmounted from the vehicles see lots of rich kids with 40k in gear and don't even know how to take the gear off to get themselves unstuck from a small mud pit or in sand
Secure your gear inside your vehicle. The last thing you want is to have your gear shifting around on you when you're in a particularly sketchy situation. You don't want the weight shifting around on you, and you don't want something coming from behind you and bumping in your arm or distracting you from the task at hand. Also don't put anything on the floorboard of the driver seat. Items can shift and get stuck your pedals preventing you from using your brakes or clutch.
Forget lift and lights, if you have never been off road you won't need them at first. No, get recovery and safety gear first. A huge lift won't help you un-stick yourself.
100% I always put mine in 4 low another thing I do ever time I buy a new an different 4wd I do a easy track just so I can get the feel of it especially here in Australia . As usual great video great advice
Brad, great advice! I've also made some of those mistakes in the early days of off-road driving... For years I was a trail guide at the FJ Summit. One of the common problems with new or inexperienced drivers was either not carrying a spare tire or having one that was several sizes smaller than what was on their vehicle. 😱 Many times either I or someone else with the group would have to "loan" them a proper size tire to complete the trail! 😇
Check the weather. Be prepared to handle whatever Mother Nature has in store for us. I carry atleast twice as much water as I think I would ever need. An extra jacket and an old blanket stay in the jeep all the time. Leather gloves can be a good idea also.
This was so good - thank you! One I'd add is to research the trail(s) you are doing and rules of thumb...understanding right of way (usually uphill, but get out and communicate with oncoming traffic if it's a tight spot - most trail folks adhere to common sense and courtesy over pedantic dogma) and some trails are even one-way. ✌
1. Let someone know a general location where you will be. 2. As a wilderness medic, I always have a way to make a smoke signal.(just be careful of the dry areas.) 3. Having mylar blanket in your kit so many different uses. 4. If you go off Roading with your dog, make sure you have a canine first aid kit. Thank you very much for this video. Enjoy watching them be safe.
I took my girlfriend and dogs out to a logging trail in Shasta and they loved it. The trail wasn’t too crazy. There were a few rocky areas and some cliff driving but the Subaru handled it great even with the OEM tires. After that she let me buy new wheels and tires. I think we definitely want to do some more beginner trails.
GREAT VIDEO. There are situations in which an old-fashioned crankhandle would get you out of trouble. Stopped in soft deep sand or on rocks with a dead battery, you wouldn't be able to jump-start the engine by pushing. Of course you could carry a second battery and/or be accompanied by another vehicle to connect batteries or winch or tow.
One thing I learned just this weekend, after blowing out two tires on the trail..and needing a tow home that cost me almost $1500. Leave your EGO at home.
I just got a bronco badlands and one thing I love is how easy it is to learn in that car. If you don’t know anything that goat mode system is really fantastic at keeping you out of trouble.
Another three rules: Don't go fast, especially on unknown trails - slow it down. And then have proper clothes, boots, gloves for when you need to get hands on. And third: bring two spare tires. Not one. Two.
Thank you Brad and Regina. I am leading a group Saturday and several are new. Giving your channel credit, I have printed out your tips to hand out during my drivers meeting.
Fellow San Diegan here. My ride is a Scout II. On low range, yes for sure. Many people don't use it enough. I see a lot of vids (and real life situations) people in Jeeps etc descending hills with their brake lights lit up the whole time, rear tires skidding occasionally. Even fronts skidding as well. I learned a long time ago that on steep descents, to put the trans in 1st gear (I have a manual), and the TC in Low-range, and just let the truck descent slowly under engine compression-braking. And I focus just on steering---having decided on my line in advance. I never touch the brake unless I need to actually stop for some reason.
As a new Jeeper. I love your videos and your amazing friendly positive attitude. I am currently Active Duty Army stationed in Germany. Having a difficult time finding jeep club community to learn as much as I can, since I am new to this. If any one has suggestions, im open.
1) Going through water without checking it first and/or turning off your radiator fan(s). I saw a poor sap in the parking lot with his new-ish Jeep trying to cool it off by pouring little bottles of water into the radiator after his fan had busted in a mud crossing. He hadn't turned it off before entering and something busted. I felt bad for him. 2) Being too proud to turn around. I was with an experienced friend when we came upon a section of the trail with no way around it other than the mudhole that was at least 2 car lengths. We stopped and he got out, found a stick, and probed it. I didn't want to risk getting stuck since we were solo that day, so we turned around and found another trail to have fun.
Fan blades turning in water tend to flex forward as they try to pull the water thru the radiator. If they flex enough they eat the radiator, or bend and then eat the radiator and possibly other parts as well.
These are all really good (as are many of the suggestions in the comments). I think the ones that I regularly come upon when out in the mountains of VA, NC and WV are #4 (no appropriate gear) and #6 (exceeding driving skills). Both can be mitigated by going with other people as you had in one of the first suggestions. Learn from others - probably one of the most important bits of advice you can give. Great job on this video.
Lived down a 4-1/2 mile rocky road in Missouri for 19 years. Potholes everywhere until you got to my cutoff, which was smooth. I had figured out that running thru mud puddles pushed dirt OUT, so I would straddle them, so if anything, pushing dirt IN.
Great advice. I also would add is always let someone know where you are going and what time you should be back. Doesn't hurt to let someone to watch remotely via Google Map share or your GPS unit.
One pet peeve I have (along with the tailgating) is not leaving enough space for the vehicle behind to to fully clear an obstacle when you stop. Several times I've had the vehicle in front of me stop after they completed a climb or an obstacle in order to walk back and see if I needed any spotting help or something like that. Their hearts in the right place but they've stopped in a place that doesn't give me enough room to finish the run and then I'm stuck mid climb having to stop or slow down and loose momentum. This is obviously more of a problem when you have turns and cant see all the way through. and for those wondering, yes, I'm leaving plenty of space between my vehicle and theirs. I don't like being tailgated on the trail and make sure to not do it to someone else.
This may not apply to most here, but I learned a good lesson. I do not have a 4W drive, so I rent one every year on my trips to death valley. The jeeps are always in pretty good shape and are better for me because I do not want one full time. Just for that yearly Death Valley trip to check out geology and old mines. I was going through Goler Canyon and decided to go over the hill to the Lotus mine. The road is a z pattern road that goes to several mines. I have been to the lower mines but not the ones over the hill. On the way back down,, still 1/3 of the way up. I noticed something odd with the way the jeep felt. Stopped, got out and saw the tire was getting low. I drove a little further to a flat spot to change tire. No problem. Done in before. Opened up the back to get the jack, and no jack and no lug wrench. More bad luck, someone stole my emergency compressor a week earlier. Got lucky and someone came by and was able to help out.. My lesson was check for the Jack and lug wrench before I leave and bring my own back ups, plus 2 compressors with the power to pump up those tires.
One of my rules is keep my speed down. I've only gotten two flat tires offroad, and they were both due to driving too fast. So now I try to keep it slow and enjoy the scenery, enjoy the ride.
Traveling in a group; It's not your responsibility to keep up with the vehicle in front of you. It's your responsibility to keep the vehicle BEHIND you in sight at all times.
i'll add one to the doing trails you arent ready for or that exceed your vehicle's capabilities: know where your limits are and when its time to turn around. i was doing a trail a couple weekends ago and i had three people coming down the trail tell me to turn around. i listened. i dont regret it. i was already questioning how much further i was going to get because while the vehicle wasnt struggling, i could tell that the terrain was beggining to become too rough for what i thought the vehicle could safely handle. there is no shame in admitting your vehicle or you arent prepared for the trail ahead and choosing to turn around while you still can. its better than tearing your vehicle up in the middle of nowhere and having to come up with a sketchy fix to get yourself off the trail to where a tow truck can get you.
Recently I've put together a kit to take with me: soft shackles, a hitch for pulling (the one with the ring), kinetic rope, recover boards, fast viair inflator, supercapacitor jump starter, small set of basic tools, tire plug kit, water, small folding saw and hand pruners. We're often alone in the desert so we avoid anything too risky -- we'd rather turn around than have to walk out and find help. I'm lazy about airing down and haven't been out with anyone that's done it so I'm always guessing the right amount and wondering if this road really needs me to or not, etc.
Mistake I just made this weekend. Undervaluing lighting. Always thought those million LED lightbars were super gimmicky and for the 4xfashion crowd. Then I got stuck on a trail after dark. Let me tell you being out in the desert after dark, it's freaking dark! Driving with insufficient light is downright scary.
I came from California street cars and streetbikes moved to Utah right by sand hollow and switched over to rock crawling I bought a rzr pro r ultimate with 35zillas and everything you said I did because you gotta do your homework with switching hobbies I bought all the different radios bought med kit, fire extinguisher and recovery gear the only thing I didn't do was wheel with other people I learned by myself which was hard especially in sand hollow where everything is big but I eventually went on a guided tour during utv takeover and it was much easier following someone the only reason I didn't go with anyone to begin with because I was new and didn't know anyone so yes way easier with a group. Great video 👍👍
Awesome video! All super great info but I don't think you emphasized TOOLS enough... all the basic auto hand tools in a tool box and hose clamps, baling wire and cutters, duct tape, and zip ties. Also the BIG tools everyone should have for off highway adventures: high-lift jack, shovel, and a come-along-winch. You mentioned First Aid and a Fire Extinguisher which I'm always amazed at how many people don't carry them in their rigs and WATER, always carry enough water in case you have to do a loooong hike back to pavement or get stranded out in the wilderness overnight.
Master Chief, this is the first time I'm seeing one of your videos. Thanks for your service and the tips. I'm in south Louisiana, I would die for trails like you guys have!
First time multi day trip. Barney Riley trail. A few puffs of white smoke caused by lighting strike two weeks earlier. Forest Department decided it wasn’t worth the effort to put out. 2021 Tamarack Fire. We were on the trail when it became a raging forest fire bearing down on us. Our escape route was blocked. No turning back now. I had a 2003 Ford 4x4 that barely made it to Nevada. My Son’s Jeep never had an issue. I on the other hand slid off a rock so hard it activated the fuel cut-off, ruined my two side steps, damaged the lower rocker panels, got a flat tire, driving at night was tough. No sleep and no stopping to eat. The absolute joy when we made it to hwy 395. I couldn’t believe what we faced and conquered.
I’m an OTR truck driver, “leave it better than you found it” is something I do on a daily basis, doesn’t matter if I’m in a Walmart parking lot, truck stop, rest area or scenic view area… I always have a kitchen size trash bag on hand to pick up what others leave behind. This started as a campaign I called “3 Pieces A Day”. Anyway, I enjoy your videos, I also watch a variety of other TH-camrs in the off road community and am grateful for the content and advise. I’m going to be purchasing either a Wrangler or Gladiator (Rubicon for either) both seem to be capable vehicles but would you say one is more than the other?
Listen to your gut feelings. Mid-1970s took a Penn overland adventure tour that included a rough zig-zag descent into Ngorongoro Crater, Tanzania. About midway down that descent, I bailed from our British troop transport to hike to the bottom. Few months later, another tour group rolled off that trail killing numerous tourists.
One thing I've seen is people that lesser experienced drives can have a tendency to lose their cool while climbing challenging sections of the trail. Drivers that lose their cool can make bad choices and get into trouble. It's then up to us to talk to them and calm them with a soothing voice and spot them through these stressful situations. That way, they can gain some confidence and learn that staying stay calm and cool is the way to go.
I'm not an off-roader-- yet-- but one thing I do before I go camping or kayaking in a remote area alone or with a group is I get on the computer and make out a Word document stating the details of the trip I'm taking. I include where I'm planning to go, date and time of leaving and expected return, who I'm traveling with, what trailhead/trails I'm leaving from or taking and other pertinent data. I include a photo of myself, my vehicle and/or boat and a closeup of the license plate. If I plan an alternate destination, I include that information on the document. I save the document as a PDF and I email a copy of it to my Mom, my sister and to a trusted friend or two after telling them where I'm going. This way, they have a copy of my itinerary and the means of transmitting it, information complete, accurate and intact, to law enforcement or search and rescue with all the information they need if I don't show up where I'm supposed to. I keep one as a template and change the information to fit each trip. This helps your loved ones know that you're taking precautions and they may not feel so helpless and in the dark if you go missing. If I'm kayaking or backpacking or otherwise not in my vehicle, I carry a small waterproof box on a lanyard, necklace style, around my neck. In it, I carry a spare car key, $20-40 in folding cash and an expired copy of my drivers license. The license has a general description of me along with an added adhesive label where I write down my blood type and phone numbers of next of kin in the event I'm unable to "identify myself". Grim stuff, I know, but I prefer to leave no mysteries. It’s great to carry emergency communication devices but all that goes out the door if you get hurt and are not able to use them. I only take these measures whenever I do anything that would be in a remote area or in conditions where I may not be able to connect with anyone by cell phone or other readily available means. Edit: Great info, btw. I work as a Jeep tour guide in Sedona, AZ and I plan on buying my own Jeep soon. I'm taking down the information in the video and from viewer comments.
PLEASE get and REGISTER a personal locator beacon (PLB), and only use them if there is a true life-threatening emergency, these things save lives!! Great vid, not just for noobs, but for all of us who may forget the basics over time. THANK YOU!!
After multiple decades of travel through public lands all across this side of the world, I can very confidently say that, generally speaking, motorized users are the least respectful, most polluting, littering, destructive, most likely to cause a fire, most likely to chop up/shoot live trees, most likely to significantly damage sensitive wildland areas like wetlands, and yet, for the most part, are also great, fun, and friendly people to visit with. Point #12 earned a thumb's up from me.
My new rule: On a unknown trail and it’s getting bad, get out and walk it. Don’t just keep going as you may not have a turn around spot ahead. Get out and go for a walk before you end up in a bad spot. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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Great advice! Learned this same lesson a few weeks ago. Luckily we stopped while one vehicle was still unstuck, we were able to get the other out and turned around.
Same goes for water crossings. Get wet and save your vehicle.
I do that all the time, especially if I'm alone.
One lesson I learned when traveling in a group is to always keep the rig behind you in view. If they disappear, slow down and give them a moment to come back into view. If they don't reappear - radio to see if they need assistance, or if you need to go back, or if the group should stop.
Came across a group of side by sides a week ago on Hells Revenge in Moab, their second-to-last rig had gone through all his tires, and the front of the group didn't realize until they were almost done... I'm sure it made for a long day, with a couple of them having to take another tire back in to the stranded side by side... :)
That is a rule repeated at the start of every run in my club. If you follow this I don't think a radio is essential unless you like to make wisecracks along the way.
This is a rule in our club. Especially at turns. It's real easy to lose someone if you don't know which way to go
Bikers have a similar rule. The back guy sets the pace and typically is the leader
I took a Jeep “off road safari” as a cruise excursion in Alaska and we were the next to last Jeep and I kept slowing down to keep the last rig in view, and the leader kept barking at me to keep up and I kept fighting them “you never let the rig behind you out of your view!” They went as far as to say “if we need to get another driver in your Jeep, we will” and I said something along the lines of “the only way I’m speeding up is if the Jeep behind me does.”
I would include an overnight bag. Just in case you get stranded and need to spend the night out. This can happen with bad weather that can trap you from a couple of hours to overnight. My bag includes a sleeping bag or blanket, dehydrated food, water, a heating source for food, and body warmth. Just Basic survival items.
This is something , weather your off reading , or , one’s daily commute , there should be some sort of survival/emergency gear in the vehicle at all times ,
Very good point! When I lived in a colder environment that got snow I kept a bag such as you mentioned in my vehicle year round. I’d swap out the food periodically
you should add another set of clothes, and a good pair of mud boots to that.
a multiple-night bag
Agree. This should be carried at all times really.
One mistake I see more experienced offroaders make is NOT putting their vehicle into 4WD. They always brag "I haven't used 4WD yet". But having your vehicle in 4WD can help you get out of some dicey situations. For example, a steep downhill with a drop-off. We had one guy going down a drop-off and as soon as his front tires went down, his back end started to go over. We all yelled "Gas!" and since he was in 4WD, he was able to avoid doing an endo. Being in 4WD helps you to maintain better control of your vehicle.
I was gonna say the same thing. Also keeps wheel spin to a minimum which helps preserve the trail.
And the less tires spin, the better the trails will stay. I'm still very new but I usually put my vehicle in 4 high as soon as we're truly off-road.
@@scottsnyder8691 some knuckleheads think its cool to spin tyres and dig up the trails
Totally agree. If you have resources use them. Easer on the trail and you rig. Use lower gears and lock it up
Yep. Been there before. Sloppy downhill, turned the wheel and gassed it to avoid going in a ditch
SLOW DOWN. Getting in a hurry has lead to more mistakes than anything else. You get in a hurry, forget to hit the sway bar disconnect, climb up a big wash, put a 37 4 feet in the air and then come down a little too hard and slide the back door into a boulder (ask me how I know). Then it's off to the body shop... Pro tip: slow down, take your time, make sure everything is set and you have your line and then go slowly. That's my $0.02...
Amen brother, amen!! 😊
I don't run sway bars lol. But i agree. Slowing down is key unless speed is necessary.
@@autotek7930would you recommend it for daily driving
TV commercials lead people to believe all off roading is done at 60 miles per hour throwing rooster tails of dirt.
"Let someone back home know where you're going!" First and foremost and as always, thank you for your service Brad! I'm an avid boater and enjoy off roading on the beach. Either way, I will not start my trip unless someone back home knows where I'm going and how to communicate with me. Unfortunately, I rarely hear that advice in the off-road community. In my opinion, it's great to have the best communications, gear or tech for your Jeep. But if Murphy's Law joins you in overlanding, ask yourself this, "Where would First Responders start to look for you first?"
I always tell my wife where I'm going and when I get to camp, I send her a text via my Zoleo so she knows I've arrived safely and send her my coordinates.
#1 best piece of advice for anyone. Veteran or beginner offroader alike. You NEVER KNOW what might happen.
Adding to this, if you want to take it a step further, carry a satellite phone. Especially if going solo. It could save your life.
I do the same on my kayak. I always send the wife a pin. "If you don't hear from me, start the search from here!"
Water crossing.... Get your feet wet. I can't tell you how many times I thought I was going through a large puddle and it turns out to be a big hole. Use a long stick or Wade through it... Safe travels Perry
And check for rocks, had a buddy do a stick test well he just found one rock, and said it was good to go, turns out after we went over that one little bitty rock it was an abyssal trench
I can't stress the "don't tailgate" advice enough. I often wheel with an organized group (many of which are brand new to off- roading). Several times, I've had to stop and ask a driver behind me to hang back a little. This is particularly important in wet or slippery conditions.
I also think it's just rude. Why be in a hurry?
I think a lot of this can be summed up with TESTING your gear. knowing how to hook up your compressor, knowing how to use the traction control features of your car, etc. My first time wheeling I couldn't figure out how to get ALSD to engage in my toyota and spent 10 minutes stuck. I didn't know what the feature was called, so I didn't know how to look it up.
Another big one. Maybe the number one for some vehicles: If you have a spare that is mounted under the bed or under the trunk, take it out of that spot and put it somewhere else when wheeling. if you get a flat, it may not be possible on the trail to jack up enough to get the damn spare out. Also, bring a real jack and an impact wrench. Why bother with those horrible little jacks unless you are REALLY tight on weight. a harbor freight aluminum jack and a battery impact makes tire changes way way way better. If you go exploring old mining areas, you WILL get flats.
1) DO NOT stand inline with a winch cable under load. Pretend you’re being shot at.
As a former Search and Rescue 4X4 team member. Before you go into the back country think of the worst thing that could happen, then plan for worse than that.
As someone with 0 experience, I was expecting a video stating the importance of crazy modifications. This was good useful information!!! The comments are also helpful. Seems like knowledgeable and helpful people… refreshing!!
Not a lot of crazy mods that “ need “to done for most stuff.
Learned this recently: the iPhone 14 and 15 have a satellite SOS feature that will allow you to text for emergency help via satellites. I keep a ham radio, GMRS comms, and my iPhone with me so I have three means to communicate. Many newer ham radios can also do APRS location beaconing.
Another thing I learned over the past weekend: don’t be afraid to backtrack if you take a wrong turn. I almost got myself into a bad situation because I was hesitant to backtrack. Also, make sure someone knows your general location when you are out.
Most people do not realize at first how much more fuel they will use off road. In low range and slow travel it is easy to cut your MPG in half. Carry some extra fuel especially until you learn your vehicles thirst for fuel. A new quick tip for airing up is the new Milwaulkee M18 cordless air inflator. It is 2 to 3 times faster at airing up a tire compared to others.
My 2dr Rubicon was getting between 4.8 - 7mpg on Top of the World trail I probably got the same on most of the trails but wasn't keeping track I carry 2x2 gallon Gerry Cans just in case
I’ve got a 12 gallon TrailTrekker siphon tank on the back which has saved me more than once. My 2dr wrangler only has a 17.5 gallon tank ( if I’m not mistaken ) so for a multiple day overland trip it’s always full at the starting point. Plus you never know what’s ahead if you’re exploring…
This is why EVs won't become off-roaders. EV owners will have to carry a generator and gas cans if they want to do anything more than a short trail, at which point they may as well have driven a normal gas 4x4 and carried the gas without the generator.
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@@bwofficial1776EVs just have to be a little more careful about range. Not a big deal. Before I did the White Rim trail in Moab (about 100 miles off-road) I did a few other trails to calibrate my off-road mileage calculations. Turns out that for my Rivian I get about 85% of my on-road range when driving easy off-road trails like White Rim. Harder, slower trails are less efficient (but that’s true in ICE vehicles, too) but they tend to be much shorter so there’s plenty of range anyway.
But just to be ridiculous: an ICE vehicle is totally dependent on the fuel it carries. Yes, it’s relatively easy to carry quite a lot. But when it runs out you’re 100% stuck. And EV could carry a solar panel and thereby have an essentially infinite range. Of course, it would be ridiculously slow (a few miles per DAY)
Remember that all vehicles are not the same and won't act the same on a trail. A vehicle with independent front suspension (IFS) will handle differently than a vehicle with a solid front axle, think Bronco or Xterra versus a Jeep. Many times I can't take the line the jeep took simply because of how my vehicle and suspension will react. (Look at the quick clip where Brad's Bronco got real tippy... been there in my Xterra and it is a real scary feeling).
Keeping your max trail difficultly level at 70%-80% of your and your rigs capability is always a good one. Always taking the bypass when you have friends and family with you is another one.
The rule is to mostly take the bypass if there is one. Makes no sense doing something the difficult way if there is an easier one.
Just sending it is one of the big mistakes. I see people hammering on their vehicle, getting high wheel speeds, chewing up the trail and getting a wheel bouncing - just begging to break an axle or universal joint. Crawl it, back up and pick up a different line, get a little momentum, take a by-pass. Just hammering on your vehicle thinking you can power through an obstacle should be an absolute last resort, if you even do it at all!
Slow and steady wins the race.
I started bringing a trash bag with me in a rear hatch when I'm kayaking, and more often than not, I'm bringing back trash at the end of a trip. Agree 100%, leave it better than you found it.
My big tip is to keep a close eye on the weather in the trail area for at least a week or two before you head there!
I had run this one trail at least 3 times before, and so I was bringing a friend along on my 4th time. It had rained a lot a a couple weeks before we went, but we thought it'd be dry enough now to do. The trail was completely washed out and we had to turn around less than a mile in. Just reaching a turn around spot I scored some minor under body damage because it had washed a bunch of big rocks into the trail. This was a trail where I have never touched anything before, and this was not even the bad part yet. So be mindful of how the weather might have effected the trail well in advance!
I wish I had known some of these when I was a new offroader. I'm more seasoned now, but I still learn new things. Which is good. We can never stop learning. I would add bring food with you because if you're going to be out even for a bit, it can get exhausting, so even just some snacks can keep you going. Also water especially on hot days. Not just for you but your vehicle too.
Yep. Always carry at least a couple gallons of water.
Agreed! Never stop learning!
Water is definitely something I really drove home with my wife when we started hiking on a regular basis. We have a hard set rule to not get below 1/2 of our water before we go back.
Also, never under estimate how much water you will need, (and need to be DRINKING) in cold weather. You won't feel the need for a drink as much as you do in hot weather, but you still need to hydrate. Cold air is dryer then you realize, and just normal breathing can dehydrate you more than you realize. Just because you are not hot and sweating doesn't mean your not loosing hydration. To make matters worse, dehydration can affect not only mood, but more importantly judgement. We all know where bad judgment can get you in an offroad situation.
Tire pressure, learned that the hard way. Spent the night in the rig and hiked out at first light.
I've led a few trail runs locally here in Southern Oregon and its important to work as a team, especially with newer offroad drivers in the group. Clearly explain the day as its planned out, get out and walk obstacles together as a group and tell them what they can expect and tackle obstacles one vehicle at a time as a team. With everyone communicating and working together, it makes the day alot more fun for everyone and will help each driver build new skills and confidence!
This is exactly how we run our tiny offroad group of about five vehicles. We brief the trail at the trailhead and stop at every major obstacle and help each other through. We love the camaraderie and enjoy helping and seeing each other be successful. Even being the ‘most experienced’ I let the newer offroaders practice giving advice and talking them through spotting.
I’ve been off-roading for a few years now and you are absolutely right. Unfortunately, almost everything I have learned has been from making mistakes. Mistakes that have cost me thousands of dollars, and in a couple of cases, have been life threatening. The two things that have gotten me into the most trouble have been going out alone, especially in the winter. I live in Montana and have learned how easy you can die doing that. The other is learning to put your vehicle in to 4 low and lock your axles BEFORE you need them. Once you are stuck, it’s too late.
One mistake that I made when I was new to off-roading was not paying attention to the terrain when it appears to be easy. I almost drove my Jeep into a mine shaft out in the desert because I was just messing around driving over anything that was in front of me. If you can't see what's in front of you, get out and look. You just might drive into a big hole in the ground!
Agreed. My scariest moment was cresting an easy hill and sliding sideways down into a “foxhole”. Luckily I did not roll but it taught me a lesson.
I've had my ham radio license over 30 years. Most people will rather get a GMRS radio because there's a little more involved into getting a ham radio license / test. Always enjoy your videos man.
Some people like to Off-Road alone as they don’t like being with other people. If that’s the case, plan well, watch the weather and know your limits - if alone never push things to 100% and be prepared to backtrack.
Not every 4WD HAS 4 Low.
GMRS is not allowed in Australia. We use UHF.
I have a tyre deflator and a compressor but only air down when necessary. The more you air down the less load your tyre can take and the more you will shorten its life (tyre wall will not last as long aired down and you’ll get uneven tread wear). I agree with airing down BUT only when it’s necessary - don’t just do it cos you’re driving on gravel - air down at the point you NEED to and back up again as soon as possible to prolong tyre life.
I grew up with an adventurous driver for a father. He took 2wd vehicles places they did not belong. Once we got our first Jeep it was more of the same but we learned quickly to not wheel alone when possible. That said, I’ve had to learn to back off and evaluate the comfort level of my passengers, especially my wife. She is slowly coming around and has even done some light off-road driving recently.
As a fairly new off roader, these tips are definitely super helpful for those who are first starting out! Wish I had these right when I started getting out on the trail because I made several of these mistakes in the beginning too.
People forget tools( ask a mechanic what tools you need for the trail. Which will cut your weight down.) and adding zip ties and a little bailing wire never hurt. A couple of Torque wrenches of different sizes and a breaker bar! are a must.....Learned that the hard way.
Oh and a biggie even for seasoned off roaders.....never ever stop learning. Sometimes learning how to do things differently than you know how is a great benefit. Something I am actuality doing myself of late got hit by a stray golf ball and ended up with my 5th major concussion. I have gaps in my memory as result. But I also have friends I wheel with that know and help me remember. And gave me a hard hat ! It's humbling experience to know the hard stuff but not the simple basics. But I learned it once can do it again!
Thanks Brad for this reminder.
One of things I've learned from, is to not buy every piece of gear I see or hear about unless I know I have an actual use-case for it (the only thing this does not apply to is safety and recovery gear - I don't care what anyone says, you can never have too much of this stuff!). As much as we all love toys, we have to make sure they are practical and usable so we are getting the most out of our experience, and or gear!
I can tell your a Vet. USMC myself. 100% on point my Squid. I was thinking of doing a video like this, but you have covered this topic completely. I will share this video with my group since they don't listen to Marines. Excellent video , editing and presentation! Semper Fi.
Making it fun is paramount. I am a huge believer in sharing my experiences. I share them with my family. I want my family to enjoy their time on the trails, so making it fun... there isn't any other way. 😁 Thank you for this list. Some stuff I need to add to mine!
Awesome! Because spending time on the trail and making memories with family is what it's all about!
@@TrailRecon Amen. And, it's why your vids w your boys hits home so hard. My son is currently serving overseas, and am eagerly awaiting his return, as I am sure you are very familiar with. Appreciate you sir!
Great video. A 100% agree at all the points.
One of my mistakes was buying the wrong or too cheap mods. So I had to double spend money. And of course I did the mistake to go out alone until my Jeep got stuck haha
I've learned that lesson the hard way. Not just in off-roading, but with most things it pays to buy quality products. Otherwise, you just end up replacing them and spending even more money.
Yep. I just bought a recovery strap rated for a ohv for my Landcruiser. 😂 Thankfully I discovered my mistake before I used it. Having a seasoned offroader audit your recovery gear is another good idea.
I'm blessed coz all this stuff is common sense to me, but, i do go out alone but I'm uber prepared to do so. And i also don't take unnecessary risks. I'm out to explore and see stuff not get into trouble lol
A very well done video and all 12 points are good advice. The majority of the four wheeling that I have done has been desert and the one suggestion that I would make; is always plan for the worst case scenario. I did do some solo off roading when I first started years ago, but I learned that even if you start off with a group of other off roaders, it is possible that you get separated or cut off from the rest of the group by flash floods, wrong turns, vehicles breaking down. So, I always have my vehicle well stocked with food, fuel, water, clothing, stove, communication gear, emergency equipment, etc. that way if you I get separated I can be self sufficient . Thank you for sharing, happy trails!
#4 @ 5:00 should have included water and non perishable snacks. Also perhaps in the communication section: let someone not on the trip know where you plan on being, the route and time of return. Be sure to check in the trip is over or call when you are running late. On those occasions where I check in at a ranger station, I always ask when they close so I can call before closing time and advise them of my progress. Learn how to use your navigation device (GAIA, On X or whatever) before your first trip. Great video, Thanks for sharing.
In my 50 years of off roading I've seen way to much bad behavior and foolish choices by drivers who think they are the only ones out there who matter. Both newbies and vets who are never prepared, thinking the skinny pedal is the only one needed and have the trail etiquette of a ragging bull. But on the opposite side I had the good fortune to learn from some very seasoned off roaders who schooled me in the proper ways. Thanks to them all my trips have been nearly drama free. There is no reason to go out uninformed in today's world, with all the info available from multiple sources. Keep the shiney up, be prepared and responsable and go have fun and adventure. My years on the trails can not be replaced by anything else. Thanks for the informative videos Brad.
I agree with all the mistakes that are listed... I think, the most universal mistake, "Don't bite off more than you can chew" If you're not comfortable, with the trail, or your position, it's not worth damaging your vehicle, getting stuck, or simply making things worse if you don't feel comfortable. It's better to wait and reattempt than try to force your skill or knowledge. There is no shame in turning around and re-evaluating your situation.
It's akin to watching people getting in car accidents on a snowy day... a few hours of patience keeps away car insurance, regret, and disappointment.
Thanks for starting out with the most important one - not going out alone. There is infinite inspiration online. You can get all kinds of crazy ideas, and it's easy to get the impression that something is easy because you saw someone do it in a video. This goes for so many things, including hunting. If you don't know anyone who will go with you, go meet someone! You get the double benefit of new hobbies and new friends, and you'll save yourself a lot of time, frustration, and medical bills.
Great advice in here. A lot may seem obvious but I'll back you up 100% on #11 - Planning your time. Here in the Caribbean we do a lot more mud and bushy offroading and it can take a long time to cover short distances. And the last thing you want is to be stuck under thick tree canopy with the sun going down lol
Don’t be afraid to say “enough” I was going up one last year, and got to a point where I just said “nope” and turned around. Know when you don’t have the skills or vehicle necessary for a particular obstacle. This supposed to be fun. Rolling over a cliff is not fun.
ahah 4 low... I forgot all about that my first time out. Someone finally radioed me to check on why I was having so many issues. Being with experienced people is such a help, the biggest help is the experience gained from others and being open to their input.
I love your point of not freaking your family out. My daughter is 13 and she is an expert at picking lines. This will be her year to start driving. This is truly a family sport.
Question. When you say preasure down tires, how do you know what preasure? Is there a specific rule of thumb? I am definitely new to offloading. So go easy.
I bought that Front Runner chair and love it (one for my husband too). I love how compact it is and I can leave it in my Jeep. I always forgot my old chair because it was too big to leave in my Jeep.
it also sets up and folds up in seconds.
It's my favorite chair!
I think one skill that new off-roaders need to practice two - foot driving. Especially when the trails get more difficult. I know this is something I learned from some more experience people, and it helped a ton.
All great suggestions. I also recommend that new drivers take a course. Here in CO we have them everywhere. They will teach you a lot of these basics and give you time to practice them with an experienced off roader.
Number 1. This depends on the person YOU are, and who “they” are. I’ve seen lots of new guys get talked into wrecking their rig by being talked into doing stuff they weren’t qualified to do.
I’d say “Go with a group of responsible drivers”
Every trip or camp I go on I take notes in my phone on how can I improve things, what I need to re-stock, what I need to buy. Over the years that's allowed my setup to be pretty dialed in for me.
Also even if your rig is your daily you can store lots of things you should always have - med kit, fire extinguisher, lighter, head lamp, multitool, duct tape, paracord etc...then you won't forgot those random items.
Food and water are often over looked as well. As you said, a 4 hour trip can turn into an 8 real easily.
Sometimes taking a “wrong” turn can lead you to wonderful things along awesome routes as well. However, it’s always good to use GPS with tracking AND Satellite maps.
Radios…. I have all GMRS, Ham, and CB. As well as I use “Spot” for emergency Sat recovery.
Sedona AZ trails are loaded with fun and legal "Easter eggs" you can discover by taking obscure trail offshoots or taking wrong turns.
Great video. I’d like to add listen to your spotter. They can see stuff you cannot, pay attention.
Also, make sure it’s easy to get to your recovery gear. I used to keep everything in the back, which was a pain when you get stuck and have to open the tailgate to get a tree strap and winch controller. Now I keep the winch controller, tree strap, and shackle in easy reach.
More essential is a trusty spotter. Plenty are morons and you should not listen to them as they get you into worse trouble (from many videos I’ve seen). Make sure it’s a reliable trustworthy person.
Since the Summit at Merus I did get a second soft shackle for my recovery kit. Definitely a lessoned learned. When in doubt get out and walk the trail if you need to, look at the lines.. figure out tire placement. And I try and avoid mud holes if and when possible..
4Lo M2 for most BOH trails in Moab and Colorado also helps with braking on the way down without overheating your brakes I just don't get drivers who rush through the trails, I like to get out every so often and enjoy nature and take pictures
Always great advice for new & seasoned off roaders. Just stepped into my first Jeep here in the US, but an experienced overlander from Australia (Toyotas & heavy off-road rigs). Great channel, informative & entertaining. Mate, you Rock! See you out there.
Thanks! Glad you're enjoying the channel!
@TrailRecon Especially enjoyed your trek onto Frasier Island (Australia). Did you get up to Cape Yorke ? Gotta put the Kimberly's & Bungle Bungles on the bucket list. Thanks again for your great content, cheers
Great video! I would expand just a little on your tip about going out with an experienced off-roader. Having an experienced off-roader that you trust can help build your confidence in your abilities and in your vehicle. Many times, I was encouraged and walked through obstacles that I had zero confidence that I could make. But through thier guidance, I now have a much better idea of where my abilities are and the capabilities of my vehicle.
First thing would be to see if the experienced off-roader actually has more experience than yourself, and not just someone who has done a few trails but has a new rig with all the gadgets and doodads but has never used any of it.
@@iffykidmn8170 You are 100% correct
To many people go offroading and don't know how to use the gear on there vehicle or even get it unmounted from the vehicles see lots of rich kids with 40k in gear and don't even know how to take the gear off to get themselves unstuck from a small mud pit or in sand
Secure your gear inside your vehicle. The last thing you want is to have your gear shifting around on you when you're in a particularly sketchy situation. You don't want the weight shifting around on you, and you don't want something coming from behind you and bumping in your arm or distracting you from the task at hand. Also don't put anything on the floorboard of the driver seat. Items can shift and get stuck your pedals preventing you from using your brakes or clutch.
Forget lift and lights, if you have never been off road you won't need them at first. No, get recovery and safety gear first. A huge lift won't help you un-stick yourself.
💯! The first things everyone should buy is recovery gear, a first aid kit, and a fire extinguisher.
Some need to know the difference between and how to use a tow strap vs. a kinetic rope. Great topic today!
100% I always put mine in 4 low another thing I do ever time I buy a new an different 4wd I do a easy track just so I can get the feel of it especially here in Australia . As usual great video great advice
Brad, great advice! I've also made some of those mistakes in the early days of off-road driving... For years I was a trail guide at the FJ Summit. One of the common problems with new or inexperienced drivers was either not carrying a spare tire or having one that was several sizes smaller than what was on their vehicle. 😱 Many times either I or someone else with the group would have to "loan" them a proper size tire to complete the trail! 😇
Or at least carry a patch kit, Gluetread, and a compressor. Most issues can be taken care of with those.
@@BrianTeal71 Thanks for the tip on Gluetread. Didn't know the product was available.
Check the weather. Be prepared to handle whatever Mother Nature has in store for us. I carry atleast twice as much water as I think I would ever need. An extra jacket and an old blanket stay in the jeep all the time. Leather gloves can be a good idea also.
This was so good - thank you! One I'd add is to research the trail(s) you are doing and rules of thumb...understanding right of way (usually uphill, but get out and communicate with oncoming traffic if it's a tight spot - most trail folks adhere to common sense and courtesy over pedantic dogma) and some trails are even one-way. ✌
1. Let someone know a general location where you will be.
2. As a wilderness medic, I always have a way to make a smoke signal.(just be careful of the dry areas.)
3. Having mylar blanket in your kit so many different uses.
4. If you go off Roading with your dog, make sure you have a canine first aid kit.
Thank you very much for this video. Enjoy watching them be safe.
I took my girlfriend and dogs out to a logging trail in Shasta and they loved it. The trail wasn’t too crazy. There were a few rocky areas and some cliff driving but the Subaru handled it great even with the OEM tires. After that she let me buy new wheels and tires. I think we definitely want to do some more beginner trails.
GREAT VIDEO. There are situations in which an old-fashioned crankhandle would get you out of trouble. Stopped in soft deep sand or on rocks with a dead battery, you wouldn't be able to jump-start the engine by pushing. Of course you could carry a second battery and/or be accompanied by another vehicle to connect batteries or winch or tow.
One thing I learned just this weekend, after blowing out two tires on the trail..and needing a tow home that cost me almost $1500. Leave your EGO at home.
I just got a bronco badlands and one thing I love is how easy it is to learn in that car. If you don’t know anything that goat mode system is really fantastic at keeping you out of trouble.
Everytime I see that clip of your Bronco off camber it gives me anxiety lol - Great lessons for new & experienced off-roaders!
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Always make sure that you know where your going and what hazards are in front of you.
Another three rules: Don't go fast, especially on unknown trails - slow it down. And then have proper clothes, boots, gloves for when you need to get hands on. And third: bring two spare tires. Not one. Two.
Thank you Brad and Regina. I am leading a group Saturday and several are new. Giving your channel credit, I have printed out your tips to hand out during my drivers meeting.
Enjoy the time off-road, do not get pressured into doing something you are not comfortable doing.
Fellow San Diegan here. My ride is a Scout II. On low range, yes for sure. Many people don't use it enough. I see a lot of vids (and real life situations) people in Jeeps etc descending hills with their brake lights lit up the whole time, rear tires skidding occasionally. Even fronts skidding as well. I learned a long time ago that on steep descents, to put the trans in 1st gear (I have a manual), and the TC in Low-range, and just let the truck descent slowly under engine compression-braking. And I focus just on steering---having decided on my line in advance. I never touch the brake unless I need to actually stop for some reason.
As a new Jeeper. I love your videos and your amazing friendly positive attitude. I am currently Active Duty Army stationed in Germany. Having a difficult time finding jeep club community to learn as much as I can, since I am new to this. If any one has suggestions, im open.
Thank you so much and thanks for your service! Oorah!
1) Going through water without checking it first and/or turning off your radiator fan(s).
I saw a poor sap in the parking lot with his new-ish Jeep trying to cool it off by pouring little bottles of water into the radiator after his fan had busted in a mud crossing. He hadn't turned it off before entering and something busted. I felt bad for him.
2) Being too proud to turn around.
I was with an experienced friend when we came upon a section of the trail with no way around it other than the mudhole that was at least 2 car lengths. We stopped and he got out, found a stick, and probed it. I didn't want to risk getting stuck since we were solo that day, so we turned around and found another trail to have fun.
Fan blades turning in water tend to flex forward as they try to pull the water thru the radiator. If they flex enough they eat the radiator, or bend and then eat the radiator and possibly other parts as well.
These are all really good (as are many of the suggestions in the comments). I think the ones that I regularly come upon when out in the mountains of VA, NC and WV are #4 (no appropriate gear) and #6 (exceeding driving skills). Both can be mitigated by going with other people as you had in one of the first suggestions. Learn from others - probably one of the most important bits of advice you can give. Great job on this video.
Lived down a 4-1/2 mile rocky road in Missouri for 19 years. Potholes everywhere until you got to my cutoff, which was smooth. I had figured out that running thru mud puddles pushed dirt OUT, so I would straddle them, so if anything, pushing dirt IN.
It is said having 4wheel drive allows you to get stuck farther out than the average person.
Great advice. I also would add is always let someone know where you are going and what time you should be back. Doesn't hurt to let someone to watch remotely via Google Map share or your GPS unit.
I always tell my wife where I'm going and text her via my Zoleo so she knows I've arrived safely and send my coordinates.
One pet peeve I have (along with the tailgating) is not leaving enough space for the vehicle behind to to fully clear an obstacle when you stop. Several times I've had the vehicle in front of me stop after they completed a climb or an obstacle in order to walk back and see if I needed any spotting help or something like that. Their hearts in the right place but they've stopped in a place that doesn't give me enough room to finish the run and then I'm stuck mid climb having to stop or slow down and loose momentum. This is obviously more of a problem when you have turns and cant see all the way through. and for those wondering, yes, I'm leaving plenty of space between my vehicle and theirs. I don't like being tailgated on the trail and make sure to not do it to someone else.
This may not apply to most here, but I learned a good lesson. I do not have a 4W drive, so I rent one every year on my trips to death valley. The jeeps are always in pretty good shape and are better for me because I do not want one full time. Just for that yearly Death Valley trip to check out geology and old mines. I was going through Goler Canyon and decided to go over the hill to the Lotus mine. The road is a z pattern road that goes to several mines. I have been to the lower mines but not the ones over the hill. On the way back down,, still 1/3 of the way up. I noticed something odd with the way the jeep felt. Stopped, got out and saw the tire was getting low. I drove a little further to a flat spot to change tire. No problem. Done in before. Opened up the back to get the jack, and no jack and no lug wrench. More bad luck, someone stole my emergency compressor a week earlier. Got lucky and someone came by and was able to help out..
My lesson was check for the Jack and lug wrench before I leave and bring my own back ups, plus 2 compressors with the power to pump up those tires.
One of my rules is keep my speed down. I've only gotten two flat tires offroad, and they were both due to driving too fast. So now I try to keep it slow and enjoy the scenery, enjoy the ride.
Never thought id be excited to watch the Mr Rodgers for off-roading.
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Traveling in a group; It's not your responsibility to keep up with the vehicle in front of you. It's your responsibility to keep the vehicle BEHIND you in sight at all times.
i'll add one to the doing trails you arent ready for or that exceed your vehicle's capabilities: know where your limits are and when its time to turn around. i was doing a trail a couple weekends ago and i had three people coming down the trail tell me to turn around. i listened. i dont regret it. i was already questioning how much further i was going to get because while the vehicle wasnt struggling, i could tell that the terrain was beggining to become too rough for what i thought the vehicle could safely handle. there is no shame in admitting your vehicle or you arent prepared for the trail ahead and choosing to turn around while you still can. its better than tearing your vehicle up in the middle of nowhere and having to come up with a sketchy fix to get yourself off the trail to where a tow truck can get you.
Recently I've put together a kit to take with me: soft shackles, a hitch for pulling (the one with the ring), kinetic rope, recover boards, fast viair inflator, supercapacitor jump starter, small set of basic tools, tire plug kit, water, small folding saw and hand pruners.
We're often alone in the desert so we avoid anything too risky -- we'd rather turn around than have to walk out and find help. I'm lazy about airing down and haven't been out with anyone that's done it so I'm always guessing the right amount and wondering if this road really needs me to or not, etc.
Mistake I just made this weekend. Undervaluing lighting. Always thought those million LED lightbars were super gimmicky and for the 4xfashion crowd. Then I got stuck on a trail after dark. Let me tell you being out in the desert after dark, it's freaking dark! Driving with insufficient light is downright scary.
I came from California street cars and streetbikes moved to Utah right by sand hollow and switched over to rock crawling I bought a rzr pro r ultimate with 35zillas and everything you said I did because you gotta do your homework with switching hobbies I bought all the different radios bought med kit, fire extinguisher and recovery gear the only thing I didn't do was wheel with other people I learned by myself which was hard especially in sand hollow where everything is big but I eventually went on a guided tour during utv takeover and it was much easier following someone the only reason I didn't go with anyone to begin with because I was new and didn't know anyone so yes way easier with a group. Great video 👍👍
Awesome video! All super great info but I don't think you emphasized TOOLS enough... all the basic auto hand tools in a tool box and hose clamps, baling wire and cutters, duct tape, and zip ties. Also the BIG tools everyone should have for off highway adventures: high-lift jack, shovel, and a come-along-winch. You mentioned First Aid and a Fire Extinguisher which I'm always amazed at how many people don't carry them in their rigs and WATER, always carry enough water in case you have to do a loooong hike back to pavement or get stranded out in the wilderness overnight.
Master Chief, this is the first time I'm seeing one of your videos. Thanks for your service and the tips. I'm in south Louisiana, I would die for trails like you guys have!
I see a ton of people that don't ever have radios at every offroad meetup I have been to and Gmrs Is what everyone uses around me as well in az
First time multi day trip. Barney Riley trail. A few puffs of white smoke caused by lighting strike two weeks earlier. Forest Department decided it wasn’t worth the effort to put out. 2021 Tamarack Fire. We were on the trail when it became a raging forest fire bearing down on us. Our escape route was blocked. No turning back now. I had a 2003 Ford 4x4 that barely made it to Nevada. My Son’s Jeep never had an issue. I on the other hand slid off a rock so hard it activated the fuel cut-off, ruined my two side steps, damaged the lower rocker panels, got a flat tire, driving at night was tough. No sleep and no stopping to eat. The absolute joy when we made it to hwy 395. I couldn’t believe what we faced and conquered.
I’m an OTR truck driver, “leave it better than you found it” is something I do on a daily basis, doesn’t matter if I’m in a Walmart parking lot, truck stop, rest area or scenic view area… I always have a kitchen size trash bag on hand to pick up what others leave behind. This started as a campaign I called “3 Pieces A Day”.
Anyway, I enjoy your videos, I also watch a variety of other TH-camrs in the off road community and am grateful for the content and advise. I’m going to be purchasing either a Wrangler or Gladiator (Rubicon for either) both seem to be capable vehicles but would you say one is more than the other?
The Wrangler has a shorter wheel base and therefore is more capable off road. Cough cough I have a two door Wrangler so it is the best of all :)
Listen to your gut feelings. Mid-1970s took a Penn overland adventure tour that included a rough zig-zag descent into Ngorongoro Crater, Tanzania. About midway down that descent, I bailed from our British troop transport to hike to the bottom. Few months later, another tour group rolled off that trail killing numerous tourists.
One thing I've seen is people that lesser experienced drives can have a tendency to lose their cool while climbing challenging sections of the trail. Drivers that lose their cool can make bad choices and get into trouble. It's then up to us to talk to them and calm them with a soothing voice and spot them through these stressful situations. That way, they can gain some confidence and learn that staying stay calm and cool is the way to go.
I'm not an off-roader-- yet-- but one thing I do before I go camping or kayaking in a remote area alone or with a group is I get on the computer and make out a Word document stating the details of the trip I'm taking. I include where I'm planning to go, date and time of leaving and expected return, who I'm traveling with, what trailhead/trails I'm leaving from or taking and other pertinent data. I include a photo of myself, my vehicle and/or boat and a closeup of the license plate. If I plan an alternate destination, I include that information on the document. I save the document as a PDF and I email a copy of it to my Mom, my sister and to a trusted friend or two after telling them where I'm going. This way, they have a copy of my itinerary and the means of transmitting it, information complete, accurate and intact, to law enforcement or search and rescue with all the information they need if I don't show up where I'm supposed to. I keep one as a template and change the information to fit each trip.
This helps your loved ones know that you're taking precautions and they may not feel so helpless and in the dark if you go missing.
If I'm kayaking or backpacking or otherwise not in my vehicle, I carry a small waterproof box on a lanyard, necklace style, around my neck. In it, I carry a spare car key, $20-40 in folding cash and an expired copy of my drivers license. The license has a general description of me along with an added adhesive label where I write down my blood type and phone numbers of next of kin in the event I'm unable to "identify myself".
Grim stuff, I know, but I prefer to leave no mysteries. It’s great to carry emergency communication devices but all that goes out the door if you get hurt and are not able to use them. I only take these measures whenever I do anything that would be in a remote area or in conditions where I may not be able to connect with anyone by cell phone or other readily available means.
Edit: Great info, btw. I work as a Jeep tour guide in Sedona, AZ and I plan on buying my own Jeep soon. I'm taking down the information in the video and from viewer comments.
PLEASE get and REGISTER a personal locator beacon (PLB), and only use them if there is a true life-threatening emergency, these things save lives!! Great vid, not just for noobs, but for all of us who may forget the basics over time. THANK YOU!!
I've got one in each of our vehicles.
After multiple decades of travel through public lands all across this side of the world, I can very confidently say that, generally speaking, motorized users are the least respectful, most polluting, littering, destructive, most likely to cause a fire, most likely to chop up/shoot live trees, most likely to significantly damage sensitive wildland areas like wetlands, and yet, for the most part, are also great, fun, and friendly people to visit with. Point #12 earned a thumb's up from me.
Leave it better then you found it. I agree 💯 percent got to preserve these beautiful trails we love so much