These older cooking shows were obviously more traditional and slow but actually included good basic cooking knowledge for the viewer. A lot of cooking programs you see a lot of people fail as they have not learnt basic cooking skills and practical knowledge.
Made this tonight. Modified the recipe by adding spices and Worcestersire sauce. Also browned the beef with the onion. Only thing I would change would be adding extra ground (minceed) beef. Served it with gravy and it was excellent. Will make again.
I decided to make this exactly as shown resisting the temptation to add 21st Century tweaks and spices just plenty of salt and pepper and it was absolutely delicious. The meat and vegetables made a delicious light stock that kept the pie moist. I will definitely be making it again and I think the only thing I will add will be a dash of Worcestershire Sauce.
That pie was yearning for a bit of oregano, or even some parsley! But they didn’t use herbs and spices so profusely in the 1970s. She did use a lot of black pepper though, which adds a lovely flavour.
There will be people saying to add herbs etc. which is okay, but not this time. Sometimes it is nice to eat and taste simple unadulterated food. It is human nature to always be trying to make things better, but this often misses simple pleasures.
TheRenaissanceman65 compared to eighty something, which she is now I believe, 41 is pretty young! Maybe for a 20 year old, it doesn’t seem young. I am 45 and I still feel like I am pretty young.
This is the first comment I've seen which seems to be in defence of Mary. All the others suggest it's Mary who is difficult to work with and often snubs, ignores or talks over Judith. Unless Thames TV enjoyed being sadists, they must've had some decent relationship for so many programmes to be made in the '70s with them together.
Me Mam used to make Slate Pie. She'd climb up on top of t'house and fetch down a couple of slate roof tiles and bake 'em in a crust of mud from the bottom of t'garden. We might have been poor but we were too drunk to know it.......
curious how afraid of herbs people were...I remember we had a spice and herb rack in our kitchen in the 70's , we hardly ever touched any of it apart from the mint
It was quite common back then. I have some cook books from my mom that we’re popular in the 50’s/60’s, and they would ask for things like “a few grains of black pepper”. And almost nothing else. Maybe some flakes of dried parsley occasionally. I think it had a lot to do with the price of some spices and herbs. Not sure.
No cheese. Nontraditional in this recipe. And remember these shows were veered towards the economic times of the 70's. Food shortages, electric blackouts etc. We had to make a lot go a long way, well my Mum did. Cheese was very much a luxury item then. Not that it would go anywhere near a Cornish Pasty style recipe.
This is why British food is known to be bland and boring. Plenty of seasoning...salt and pepper. No garlic no thyme no oregano no parsley I mean come on.....I’ll never understand why. Thank God this isn’t how we cook in my country!
I think lots of people think that, but if you ever tried it you might change you mind. The ingredients speak for themselves you don't need all those spices or herbs.
This programme was made in the 1970s - fifty years ago now. During that time the country was in a lot of upheaval; there were strikes and walkouts by many workers in the public sector, which meant disruption of things like rubbish collection, council services and even electricity supplies (there were regular power cuts, which meant hours without lighting, heating or cooking facilities if you didn't have gas appliances, two or three times a week at least.) So yeah, fretting about not having any oregano for our pie filling was pretty low down on the list of worries. And like I said - this was FIFTY YEARS AGO. Should us Brits assume that the food in other countries is exactly the same as it was fifty years ago? That Americans all live on hamburgers, the Italians eat nothing but pizza and pasta and that Chinese people eat nothing but rice and stir-fry everything in a wok? No, because that would be an example of us being shallow and stereotypical while thinking we're scoring superiority points. And that would be pretty embarrassing, wouldn't it?
These older cooking shows were obviously more traditional and slow but actually included good basic cooking knowledge for the viewer. A lot of cooking programs you see a lot of people fail as they have not learnt basic cooking skills and practical knowledge.
I believe that this is because Cooking shows today are entertainment and not instruction.
She was just as adorable as a young woman as she is in her golden years! Love Mary!
I want some pie . .looked yum👍👍👍Mary is the Queen of cooking😇
Made this tonight. Modified the recipe by adding spices and Worcestersire sauce. Also browned the beef with the onion. Only thing I would change would be adding extra ground (minceed) beef.
Served it with gravy and it was excellent. Will make again.
Delightful! I have been looking for crust directions for the way my grandmother made it.
I would love to have seen the camera pan over to a 10 year old Paul Hollywood helping her prep the vegetables.
😂
I decided to make this exactly as shown resisting the temptation to add 21st Century tweaks and spices just plenty of salt and pepper and it was absolutely delicious. The meat and vegetables made a delicious light stock that kept the pie moist. I will definitely be making it again and I think the only thing I will add will be a dash of Worcestershire Sauce.
Wow, Mary Berry?? She is so sweet ♥
How to Make yummy food
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"Everybody pinches differently."
"Do they?"
That pie was yearning for a bit of oregano, or even some parsley!
But they didn’t use herbs and spices so profusely in the 1970s. She did use a lot of black pepper though, which adds a lovely flavour.
There will be people saying to add herbs etc. which is okay, but not this time. Sometimes it is nice to eat and taste simple unadulterated food. It is human nature to always be trying to make things better, but this often misses simple pleasures.
shes gorgeous! still is
You can tell that Judith Chalmers had probably never done any baking ever.
The only baking she did was on the beach, filming Wish You Were Here. That's why her skin went that peculiar orange colour.
Wow. She was so young she actually sounds different.
She had such a pious, clean existence she could pass for a lot younger.
TheRenaissanceman65 compared to eighty something, which she is now I believe, 41 is pretty young! Maybe for a 20 year old, it doesn’t seem young. I am 45 and I still feel like I am pretty young.
Judith brings tension and irritation to Mary’s dreamy sweetness. There is no chemistry here, but Mary does her best.
Mary always credits Judith with helping her with TV work and guiding her in how to work in front of the camera. This is Marys apprenticeship on TV.
This is the first comment I've seen which seems to be in defence of Mary. All the others suggest it's Mary who is difficult to work with and often snubs, ignores or talks over Judith. Unless Thames TV enjoyed being sadists, they must've had some decent relationship for so many programmes to be made in the '70s with them together.
I love the way sometimes Mary just ignores whatever Judith asks or says and talks right over her. "Stay in your lane, Judith, I am cooking here."
I came here expecting at least Noddy Holder... I didn't get him, but I'm not disappointed. 😊
I am from the United States. What is mince? Ground beef? I love pasties and this looks easy and yummy!
Mince is like the name suggests, meat which had been put through a mincer and made fine -- so yes, ground beef is the same.
Me Mam used to make Slate Pie. She'd climb up on top of t'house and fetch down a couple of slate roof tiles and bake 'em in a crust of mud from the bottom of t'garden. We might have been poor but we were too drunk to know it.......
Cheeky! LOL
You were lucky! My Mam made us a Slade pie with bits of Noddy Holder's hat in it!
Yet even she knew not to put carrots in it!
Haha Haha!
I'm done..😂 Wickes or Tile Giant mate? Ha he ha
curious how afraid of herbs people were...I remember we had a spice and herb rack in our kitchen in the 70's , we hardly ever touched any of it apart from the mint
Unfortunately seems to be the case. Herbs and spice have the capacity to take something otherwise bland and take it up an entire notch.
Awww sheeeeet that’s some sweeet Bontempi in the intro.
" I brush it with milk - theres no need to break an egg specially" 😂😂😂😂😂
The sun will never set on British (culinary) stodge!
Mary every 30 secs “there we are” and what about Judith charmers obsession with wanting to freeze EVERYTHING
I’m going to freeze your comment in clingfilm.
Sure I heard a 'Shit!' at 5:38 from Mary... LOL
she just rescued herself.
Judith chatting on and on, Mary ignoring her.
Who are these people and how did I get here?
Mary: "...everybody 'pinches it' differently." Judith: "Do they?!"
I thought the assistant in the thumbnail was Paul Merton ... in a funny mood. D
In those days, you had to know the basics, like how to make pastry from scratch, which I still do. Much better.
I wonder what year Mary stopped using a hard 'g' in 'margarine'? Or maybe she hasn't. :)
I like this kind of crust too. I'm not so fond of puff pastry and flaky pastry.
A true Cornish pasty is made with very thinly sliced beef onions and turnip. That is it and that is all.
That shirt though...
Mary's blouse reminds Me of Elmer.....
I remember Judith charmers not Mary. But I love this
Sarah Kofman you don’t know who Mary Berry is?!
Love the show but still not exactly sure what Judith brings to the table, lol.
She's the presenter. Apparently Mary was quite new to being on TV and it may have been too much for her to do a Delia and be the sole presenter.
Surprised there's no extra seasoning with the filling, no herbs, spices or anything.
It was quite common back then. I have some cook books from my mom that we’re popular in the 50’s/60’s, and they would ask for things like “a few grains of black pepper”. And almost nothing else. Maybe some flakes of dried parsley occasionally. I think it had a lot to do with the price of some spices and herbs. Not sure.
wow mary berry in her younger days, she is way better than Delia smith
No carrot but no mince either. Small steak pieces are what you need. ;o)
Maybe its just me, but the dialog seems so awkward....
i never understood how judith chalmers became a presenter. terrible in everything she appeared in
In the U.S. we call this hamburger pie. But it MUST have cheese! Inside and on top.
No cheese. Nontraditional in this recipe. And remember these shows were veered towards the economic times of the 70's. Food shortages, electric blackouts etc. We had to make a lot go a long way, well my Mum did. Cheese was very much a luxury item then. Not that it would go anywhere near a Cornish Pasty style recipe.
@@carolineg1872they said in the u.s
@@trashtalker-oz8vo yes I read that but this is a UK dish. Stop dumping plastic US cheese on everything.
@@londonlady227 uk suckssss
Every1 on tv back then spoke like they had plums in their mouth 🤣 bbc was even worse! Lmao
Oh wow, I think they sound lovely lol. But I’m American, so anything sounds Like music to the ears if it’s not our accent haha
@@Jls728 The U.S has many accents...
At first I thought she said "slave pie"... yikes! 😬
Never make pastry with margarine. Never
NO CARROTS!!!!
Looked like a burger when she cut into it!
Yes, obviously Judith.🙄
Too much salt.
Judith Chalmers is so annoying!
MASSIVELY annoying that you now have to 'choose' which advert you endure. BORE!
God it looks so bland
This is why British food is known to be bland and boring. Plenty of seasoning...salt and pepper. No garlic no thyme no oregano no parsley I mean come on.....I’ll never understand why.
Thank God this isn’t how we cook in my country!
I think lots of people think that, but if you ever tried it you might change you mind. The ingredients speak for themselves you don't need all those spices or herbs.
If you use quality ingredients, you don't need flavorings to cover anything up.
Spices etc where used by the rich in the UK from Roman times, usually to mask rotten food
This programme was made in the 1970s - fifty years ago now. During that time the country was in a lot of upheaval; there were strikes and walkouts by many workers in the public sector, which meant disruption of things like rubbish collection, council services and even electricity supplies (there were regular power cuts, which meant hours without lighting, heating or cooking facilities if you didn't have gas appliances, two or three times a week at least.) So yeah, fretting about not having any oregano for our pie filling was pretty low down on the list of worries. And like I said - this was FIFTY YEARS AGO.
Should us Brits assume that the food in other countries is exactly the same as it was fifty years ago? That Americans all live on hamburgers, the Italians eat nothing but pizza and pasta and that Chinese people eat nothing but rice and stir-fry everything in a wok? No, because that would be an example of us being shallow and stereotypical while thinking we're scoring superiority points. And that would be pretty embarrassing, wouldn't it?
Mary: "would like to have a look inside?
Judith: "Yes, why not! Trouble is..., when I have a look inside, I want to have a....... a nibble!"