The Deprogram - Episode 78: Post-Capitalist Vibes
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- Throwing away the doomer pill and loudly asking "what if".
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JT asking for better public transport and walkable cities just desperately makes me want them to get NotJustBikes on
Or Alan Fisher
but for god's sake don't let Adam in
@@ΒασίληςΒλάχος-τ3κ ngl having adam on would be pretty funny tbh
@@cultural_marxism_fan Hakim would tear him a new asshole
@@cultural_marxism_fan how so?
Yugopnik is truly suffering the most from climate change, give this man a blanket and some nice fluffy socks for God's sake!
meanwhile i am melting with 44 degrees celsius in south india
@@goutamboppana961 meanwhile i am melting with 54 degrees celsius in south iraq
@@snownukitro-A oh my what the fu--- the highest we got was 49 degrees celsius and i thought holy shit this is horrible
@@snownukitro-A Isn't south Iraq dry at least? Humidity makes everything worse. (Unless you're really close to the Gulf, i assume humidity is bad then)
Meanwhile during spring we have 109 degrees (F) one day, 49 (F) the next, and at least two tornadoes with golf ball-sized hail every other week in Texas :,)
I mean the weather has always been bipolar asf but this shit’s been breaking records every week
(Also now we’re getting 1, maybe 2 grid-destroying ice blizzards that stretch down to Mexico every winter apparently. America is fine guys I swear ain’t nothing wrong it’s snowing so global warming isn’t real)
The leaving Earth for Mars point is so fucking stupid because even a post-apocalyptic Earth is going to be still WAY more survivable than even a terraformed Mars
terraforming mars even on the very fastest of timelines would take a minimum of thousands of years.
@@owenbelezos8369 exactly it’s extremely unrealistic. Would be much easier to try and re-terraform Earth if it got to that point
Antartica right now is a better place to fund a colony than Mars.
@@Blazo_Djurovic Exactly, at least it’s breathable and has gravity humans are suited for and you don’t have to launch a rocket to get there
@Drash409 but it's not far enough away from the poors, and billionaires can't get unlimited mineral rights there
44:10 I remember watching an interview with a woman who had worked as an educator just after the revolution and she talked about how she basically went to peoples’ houses to tutor them and she talked about how eager and determined they were to learn, according to her they would do house work at the same time as attentively reading. If anyone knows the interview or where to find it pls link it below actually
I only have ten minutes to listen to this before school but that’s perfect as I get to hear the first bit where you’re all just talking shit, telling stories, and chilling. Shine on boys.
I demand that in the glorious communist future brutalism and art deco make a comeback
@Porky I like both
@Porky Art Deco is superior in every way. Fight me.
@Porky Worker and Kolkhoz Woman exists 😤
invent art deco eco brutalism
An art deco Lenin plaza would be awesome!
Doctors are expected to do 24h shifts like 5-6 times a month where I live. I hope future societies look at these practices in the same way we do when we talk about doctors not washing their hands 100 years ago.
It's amazing doctors can work like that and still be class poisoned enough to think they don't need a union.
@@Praisethesunson I think the academic requirements to get into medicine are so high that you enter because you're rich or because you're in the top 1% grades. After graduation, they can only become specialists if they take a public examination. If they pass they get ranked according to the exam result and choose an open vacancy in rank order. If you think it through, these people have spent 10 years studying (i.e. no knowledge of the labour market) and they've only known success. They are the few people that haven't seen the "if you work hard, you'll achieve your dreams" myth challenged. That's why they're usually classist and arrogant.
@@Smonserratm as a dentist it's even worse with us. So many of them believe that false notion, despite the fact that many of them came from wealthy backgrounds and got tons of help from their parents while in dental school. It's no wonder why there are so many people in my profession that just rip off their patients by doing procedures they don't actually need and charging them for it.
@@SmonserratmI got scolded by my psychologist about how I have to work very hard to achieve my dreams only a few weeks ago. You are totally correct, he seemed very arrogant and classy too.
@@apersonwhohasnothingYou're right, doctor! *Grabs his necktie on the way out and heads to the nearest liquor store*
but under communism WotC would no longer be able to send pinkertons to my house when I pull a misprint
Good point. Shut it down boys.
under capitalism the only utopia people can imagine is being rich.
Man this podcast chill has hell, def needed this
Bro when JT said he had 34 commander decks i as a magic veteran about died doing that mental math on price. Glad to know he's found a much less shit way to play the game
"One of the greatest mercies of life is death."
Goddamn, Hakim.
*hakim
True.
Expect that shit from a Buddhist, not a Muslim!
I feel like the mere fact that the prices of magic cards often act like stocks and people buy bulk amounts of certain cards to drive prices up and turn a profit just makes it so obvious how much capitalism fucks up everything fun and turns it into a commodity. it sucks so bad
It's great to listen from time to time a positive episode full of optimistic and awesome possibilities to share about the future!
Some comments I wanted to remark as I was listening:
• On the food topic, it's also extremely important to emphasize that, in a socialist future, we should also need to *transition away from industrial meat production* (and I'm not even a vegan!) into more sustainable, energy-efficient, and humane ways to produce food. Not necessarily abolishing consumption of meat entirely (there are some species who are so accustomed to be domesticated for human consumption that probably wouldn't survive in the wild, or would overpopulate territories way out of the limits of sustainability... and also, meat tastes great!), but perhaps regulating way more how animals get treated and raised, when (at what age and under which conditions) it's OK to kill them to be served as food, and where/how they live until that moment (maybe creating natural habitats, closer to parks or old-fashioned organic farms, than slaughterhouses).
• On the doomer tangent of Hakim from 21:21 to 23:10, about artisan/homemade production, a socialist society could have a lot of ways to integrate those tradional, creative, and even some times therapeutic production methods (obviously without trying to romanticize inefficient and reactionary petite-bourgeois pre-capitalist commodity production). For example, there could exist *public workshops* freely available to be used by anyone to collectively partcipe in producing crafts and traditional goods (think like a Build-a-Bear, but for all kinds of stuff and without the commodification currently involved). There could exist ways for *planning organizations to order (at-demand by consumers' personalized specifications) customizable products* from local (or even international) small producers all around the world (something similar already exists in the form of Etsy, or DeviantArt in the case of art -for example, fanmade plushies in the My Little Pony community are famous for being way better done than official mass-produced ones by Hasbro or their lincensed outsource-). There could even be *mass available 3D printing services* to print parts, to repair stuff, to download blueprints of stuff from the Internet and 3D-print them, etc. We just need to think about how to integrate creatively small production into planning, and avoid small production to become a source for new commodity production into the black market.
• On the transportation topic, I never thought on the idea proposed by YUGOPNIK of *trans-oceanic tunnels* with high-speed trains (that would be AWESOME, and also an amazing technical challenge for current and future engineers) as alternative for planes and their nasty gas emissions.
• On the topic of work there's not much that hasn't been already said in any other socialist video out there: the ability to take part in the decisions of the enterprise (from how work is organized and distributed between labourers in order to met plan quotas, to how much time is spent on working each day/week and the schedules; and from how compensation -either material or moral- is done for overarchivers, to how the workspace itself is physically organized and/or decorated), either directly (as much as possible) or through delegated recallable representatives; the security that your material needs will be met no matter which work you decide to take, and that there would always be work available for you once you graduate and enter the labour force; the use of automation to eliminate or make more easy certain undesirable jobs that need to be done by society; etcetera.
Something I would personally add that's not always taken into consideration by some socialists (even when it's one of Marx's central ideas about work in communism) is the possibility to *change between different occupations through your life,* experiencing different new stuff each decade or so without needing to dedicate your entire life to be just one thing. It's entirely possible that, for example, in a certain socialist state there are already enough technicians in a field and, through a technological discovery, some of them are no longer needed in order to fulfill society's goals; so the state could perfectly pay them to go to school/university again and learn anything they desire to learn that is still needed by society (or, even better, send them to new exotic places in other socialist states, if they want to, to live there where their expertise would still be needed in case of scarcity of).
Also, of course, the re-organization of labour in order to eliminate the distinctions between intelectual and manual labours inside an enterprise or workplace, and between rural and urban labours inside a city or region (taking turns and rotating between them, for example).
• On the topic of making new friends (something I, as a fan of MLP:FiM, appreciate a lot to be taken into account here), not everyone has considered that increasing the amount of collective/socialized spaces where you interact with different people in public each day (for example, public transportation, public housing, or public parks) you're also increasing the possibilities for people who don't really like to go out of their homes to met new friends to do it when they're commuting from work to home. An extra win for us home people!
• On the artistic/entertainment aspect, a great concearn from artists about the elimination of private intellectual property and the artificial scarcity it creates, is how remuneration would work for those who don't create art as a hobby but as their chosen job. Two possibilities could be either to be publicly financed by the state (with a public budget exclusively to promote art) indistinctly to people's demand/popularity on the art they create; or to just give consumers the option to crowdfund themselves (though state-controlled platforms) the artists they want, like a sort of state-owned Patreon. The first one gives the oportunity to very minoritarian or niche creative expressions to still exists despite their impopularity/non-profitability; while the second one allows for artists to create beyond the limits of what institutionalized cultural restrictions mandate (even creating critical artworks, provided they're not being funded by foreign corporate capitalists or imperialist state actors). It perfectly balances the individual drive of critical self-expression while having their physiological needs met, and at the same time the social drive to incentivize certain artistic expressions in a transparent political way. Though ideally, in a far-far-future communist society, the goal should be to totally detach artistic expression from remuneration/commodification.
• And finally, on the topic of the purpose of humanity in this Universe, I've thought a great project for future communist societies (and post-communist societies, if such thing is ever achievable) apart from the very obvious space exploration (and also deep Earth exploration -just imagine building domed cities in the trans-oceanic abbyssal plains!), is to find ways to fight back against Universe's "cold death". Human labour is an interesting and unique "violator" of entropy principle (from a macroscopic perspective at least), and through the further development of knowledge and technology we could find some way to, either create wormholes to more livable parts of the Universe or to other Universes when ours becomes close to death, or to just reverse the process of entropy in itself. Finding the limits of the physical capabilities of the Universe's laws, gaming their exceptions to "break" such limiting laws in our favour. Being able, as a species, to literally control time and space as a collective deity. Turning Humanity into God.
I hope for more interesting episodes like this one, more focused on the perspectives for a future society (without forgeting on what's need to be done in our current society to arrive there). Thanks for all your work, as always!
On the food subject, I'm still learning and forming ideas as I get more into gardening and permaculture but I think the answer might be to go back to decentralized farming. A smaller farm can be way more sustainable way to practice agriculture. Small farmers can compost instead of using inorganic compounds on soil. It's also easier to keep things organic on a much smaller scale.
You can also design a permaculture farm around having cows and chickens and collect rain water for both crops and animals.
The downside is you of course will need more people willing to farm for their communities instead of scared conservative homesteaders like we currently have
@@RedScareClair My main objection to permaculture (and the whole ecosocialist/degrowth/green stuff) is that, just like any decentralized production method, it's materially inefficient and historically regressive/reactionary. Of course, you'll be reducing emissions and the impact in nature generated by agrobussiness (just like pre-industrial rural production did in feudalism)... But at the cost of being unable to feed the thousands of millions of people who currently exist in the globe!
There's also the issue of how to integrate those decentralized, inefficient, low capital intensive farms into the planned economy. You'd either need to reproduce commodity exchange with them, or integrate them into bigger collective farms (which would need higher capital investments than what a small permaculture would offer in order to be workable).
Given our current technologies and knowledge, we can perfectly combine mass production of food with sustainable development without needing to return back to primitive production methods. My concearn was specifically with the production of meat as a mass consumer good, not with the industrialization of agriculture (something totally positive that we should promote, not reject).
Down with fascism
Oi, Yugo, is it 15 C° day-night temperature change at your place? Cause in Siberia its damn insane lately. Also annual forest fires, yaaay
No, I think he said that the central heat is turned off when the high passes 18c for 10 straight days
A source for the russian worker on his experience working before and after the revolution? I would love to read it
A society without collective purpose creates empty individuals. Just like one cannot create a private language, and have it mean something, you cannot create your own meaning in isolation, with the society around you being hostile toward your journey of discovering it. Without societal purpose, your life has none.
"But hypothetically if two guys land on an island" ANCAP.
@JEpronuke That one was from Ben Shapiro. And it was adopted by anyone further to the right than Ben. He claimed that capitalism can work without a state because two guys on an island, one guy has coconut, the other has banana and the two trade with each other is called capitalism. The problem as you can see, is that this is not capitalism because there is no accumulation of capital. Nobody recognizes their possession of the banana or coconut trees. Without the state and society to recognize their claim on the banana and coconut trees, any pirate can just ride in and take their bananas and coconut with their AK.
Those societies create individuals like us, who harbour dreams of tearing the society down to its bones and rebuilding a new society in its place : )
i dream of the day that i will wake up and this whole capitalist hellscape will just have been a bad nightmare
Samsara moment
Yes that sounds like such bliss.
same :/
Yeah... most buildings over here in the Yeehaws are build with whatever you can get in the discount bin at Michael's with an expired coupon. If it's not natural disasters, it's black mold and you'll never get your deposit back.
Pro tip: unless you or your loved one is in a critical situation, try to avoid letting an ER physician do your spinal tap. They just don't do them very frequently. If it's possible, request an anesthesiologist. They do them all day long.
Yugopnik is god's strongest soldier, getting all those toughest battles
0:36 not even a minute in an the boys said semen, smh
Please, make an episode about urban planning with Not Just Bikes, Alan Fisher, Eco Gecko or someone similar 🙏🙏🙏
It’s matte paint, that’s why you can’t clean it well. Your only option is to repaint and when you do, make sure it’s a semi gloss paint, not eggshell (matte)
You should do an Episode with the "Well there is your Problem" Podcast
god the music theme is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo dope
"One of the greatest mercies in life is death" i cannot wait for this to be taken out of context lol.
I think you gents might appreciate Not Just Bikes. They discuss urban planning, why it sucks in North America and how it can be done better.
Jason might even be an interesting guest to talk to about it :)
Nothing like being in a huge metropolitan city on a hot day with 6 lanes of traffic stalled because of a wreck or construction.
@@michaeladkins6 one more lane bro, just more one more lane, it will fix traffic for sure :(
Yugopnik and the boys really hit the nail on the head this time, as an artist in training it's been a long time since I remembered what doing art for myself was like, I'm constantly worrying about improving and meeting industry standards so I can have a higher chance of putting food on the table in the future... Honestly you guys are some of the most empathetic people I've heard of, and I wish you all success!
I don't know about MTG, but I know about Warhammer. Its pricing is ridiculous. For playing it you have to buy from Games Workshop a core rulebook, a faction rulebook and several models (or sets of models). Which you'll need to renew as new editions are released and game balance shifts to nerf your army and make you buy another. At the same time, for the price of just one of these items you can also buy an entire videogame which contains all models of all factions with all painting options which also move in real time and have sound effects, including voice.
Spinal taps weren't terrifying enough. Thanks Hakim.
If anyone is interested in how our world could look and work under communism, I strongly advise you to read the books of Ivan Efremov and the Strugatsky brothers, the latter especially from the series about Zhilin (The Land of Crimson Clouds (Страна Багровых Туч), Space Apprentice (Стажёры), The Final Circle of Paradise (Хищные Вещи Века)) and Noon: XXII Century. From Efremov "Andromeda: A Space-Age Tale (Туманность Андромеды)", from Strugatsky "Noon: 22nd Century (Полдень: 22 век)", "Space Apprentice", (also known as "Probationers"), "Beetle in the Anthill (Жук в Муравейнике)".
@Porky Массаракш, приветствую вас, товарищ.
35:01 I feel this😞 We must over come this system I can't wait for the revolution ☮💖
I'd love you fellas focusing more on a bit more practical agit-prop as in how to unionize what to do etc,
You guys really hit me with the hope and positivity on this one ❤
8 hours and still in the same state?! Holy shit! Over here a 3 hours drive takes you to the other side of the country.
I can drive 3 hours in any direction and still be in New Mexico. 😂
one thing I can say about such huge states though is that we have almost every biome in a state like mine. The north is snowy and forested, the centre is full of plains, and the south is heavy desert. We have lakes, rivers with beaches, even a fucking rainforest in Albuquerque! (Artificially made, but still.)
@@AshiwiZuni Isn't New Mexico landlocked? How can it have "rivers with beaches"?
@@Ajente02 theres several rivers that run through the state, going into Mexico to the south. They release at the gulf! Before we were an American territory, my people still lived in these very places. I have plenty of family on both sides of the border :) and also the buttes and lakes have beaches as well.
i seriously wanna thank y'all for this video. as a ML it's hard to feel like what we're doing is eventually gonna amount to anything but thinking of the possible things we could do in the future and work towards really makes me feel a whole lot better.
btw, love your accent yugopnik.
I liked that Wendy's joke more than I should have
1:03:45 correction, for competitive Pokémon (video games) you have to spend hundreds of thousands of Poké dollars on drugs to make your Pokémon as optimally as possible.
Omg I just thought of something while watching this video. what if there was a communist channel which made satire socialism debunked content? Like imagine 15 second shorts of him saying things like capitalism doesn’t create a drive to cut corners, I mean just look at Wendy’s, their burgers are square. SOCIALISM DEBUNKED!!! (Thanks JT for an idea I find supper hilarious and I hope others do to)
Best pod on YT
I love how close J T came to saying the "14 words" lmfao
What are the 14 Words?
@@aninternetuser8102white supremacist creed. "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"
@@aninternetuser8102 we must secure a homeland for our people and a future for white children
@@aninternetuser8102 "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children." its basically a white supremacist slogan and right wingers like to change some words around to dog whistle
@@aninternetuser8102Hitler thing about securing the fatherland and future of children
A thing I think a lot about is how there's something of a contradiction between the notion of wishing for a job more suited to you and the actual definition of the proletariat, who in the time of capitalism are always defined by selling alienated labor which is "a matter of indifference to them".
It always seems as if getting people to drop their attachment to the prospect of owning businesses involves getting them to accept that work and stable wages only exist because a lot of customers actually want to buy a thing for some reason,
while businesses nobody actually wants have no chance of staying open no matter how awesome you think your business idea is or entrepreneur skills are. in a sense it's literally the smarter and more responsible decision to be ready to quit business and be a worker, show up at whatever job opening opens up that is able to make money, show up for union events and protests, because the existence of the overall proletariat is more stable than the existence of any particular self-contained business, and the ability to organize and struggle means that you can end up in any job and eventually make it less bad.
But you can see where the problem is. If the point of work is you demand proper treatment from society and in return you agree to do whatever boring or stressful duties society is asking for, how do you align that with people's individual talents or desires?
society can't have a bunch of people gearing up to go direct movies when there aren't enough plumbers or janitors or snowplow people to clean up a place like Canada that could get feet of snow such you can't drive cars or buses. but at the same time we also prefer to live in a society where people are able to direct movies for us to watch. there is always this tension between what jobs a worker wants to do or can do, what jobs are needed period, and what jobs are needed in a specific region where people live, which tends to pull people out of one town and into another town if they choose a fitting job over their local town, or into an unfitting job if they choose to stay; there is this strange outward appearance that the planning of goods and services and the process of laying out towns and social relationships are inseparable. from either angle you don't necessarily get to choose what you'll do for society because there is always the other side of the social link connecting the job or worker to a town, there is always the other side of the dialectic
to say all this another way, I grew up really wanting to be some kind of art creator and spending years and years of waking hours trying to get good at some kind of art as well as years of college education in a more practical field only to learn that commodity production is a bitch and I'm good at basically nothing that society actually wants to buy or will pay for, yet the ability to produce sellable products is more or less the basis of the proletariat existing. I felt really crushed because deep down I was _willing_ to do any job to be useful but I probably wasn't _able_ to do very many jobs well. my only real way to comprehend it was to understand work as something totally impersonal assigned based on other people's demands, and then I increasingly understood the concept of having a labor movement to improve my quality of life so I can come home and make shitty art even if for all my rambling about how videogames or tv shows could become a better experience I'll never produce one that is both good _and_ finished
In China, fortunately, we had such a rich food culture in every region, and back in the day it was the local state-owned enterprises that industrialized their production, so we still have a rich variety of food locally produced and by the blessing of modern transportation could also be enjoyed across the country
Visited Texas (College Station) at the beginning of this year. Was shocked at the car-centric city design, huge SUVS, parking lots, quanity of walmarts and fast food. drive-thrus. Truly a culture shock and how capitalism creates such an alienating society lol
If you have a KILZ primer or a primer that states it covers stains it will cover it and then you apply new paint over that after the primer dries.
Love the shit posty memeing. I am so tried of high fructose syrups in everything.
21:09 JT said a meme
I've lived in the US my entire life and cars and car-centric infrastructure have greatly reduced my ability to enjoy many areas in which I've lived, and have been an absurdly expensive inelastic commodity
I was so against Yugopnik's idea of groceries till he said we can have our little pictures and drawings
JT has definitely had to replace some drywall before. Only step he glossed over was putting boards in the new squared hole because that part is difficult to explain quickly.
I've been listening to each of you for the last few days now on your individual channels.
One common critique of socialism I've heard a lot is that doctors would make as much as a cashier. I even read an article saying that doctors in cuba also work as taxi drivers to make ends meet.
Basically, it implies that a person who becomes a doctor would only want to pursue that path if there is a large profit motive.
Can you gentlemen respond to this argument?
personally i would say we should be working to end wage labor in the first place, making this point moot
@@cdw2468i agree, we should end the necessity for money to get your basic necessities entirely. that way does it even matter if a cashier and doctor get the same salary?
I'd add to the last questions that the remuneration one receives in socialism isn't based in which _type_ of work you perform, but in the _quantity_ of work you do (in hours of standard labour time). A doctor doesn't have any reason to earn more than a cashier; in capitalism that only happens because it exists an artificial scarcity of medical labour (due mostly to the high costs of university degrees, something that doesn't exist in socialism). A socialist society could, of course, incentivize people to study certain fields by slightly increasing the remuneration of that sector; but that shouldn't be a generalized or permanent measure as it creates distorsions in the social distribution of wealth.
The case of doctors in Cuba is very particular due to several factors (like the 60-years-long US embargo, and the dollarization of the touristic sector and the small private economy), but that's not the case in other socialist states. In the USSR, for example, a cashier could earn like 40-70 roubles while a doctor could earn like 90-200 rubles (and in very remote villages they could earn as much as 300-350 roubles, 5-7 times more than a cashier).
In the US, there has to be a large profit motive otherwise you're right - not many people would do it.
Think about the broken US system. In many other countries, you go straight into medical training from high school. If you do need a 4 year degree, colleges are nearly free. In the US you are looking at 10k-50k+/year for an undergraduate degree. Then you need to go to medical school and then residency after that. So unless you manage to get lots of scholarships at public colleges, you're probably graduating with 6 figure debt out of the gate. Then, you have to get malpractice insurance. If you are a high risk doctor or you do a lot of, you will have extremely high malpractice insurance. OBGYNs have notoriously high malpractice insurance.
Eliminating these barriers will 1) increase the amount of viable physician candidates and 2) allow physicians to live comfortably off of way less money.
Attempting to build houses to resist tornadoes would be prohibitively expensive. Even if you build a dome or something to resist the wind, you still need to deal with all the shit that wind is throwing around. And I've seen tornadoes put 2x4s through a couple feet of concrete.
I lived in a basic Florida house while in high school back in the '70s...concrete block, metal rafters and roof. 80+mph winds were almost unnoticed...
Public transportation has a reputation it has to shake before becoming popular in the US. The first thing that comes to mind for me is that it's a rolling Porta Potty. Or worse.
Cities are noisy and dangerous even without cars ...you have a bunch of people crammed into a small area. You just get more problems that way.
Years ago I wound up in a short flight with three other people. As close to a private jet as I will get. Wound up talking with the air crew for most of the flight...
82F is 27.7C.. That is really hot to me.. I live in Canada and our summers are around 25-32C, or at least in my parts of the country. It is 20 right now and I am wearing shorts and feeling sweaty working in the garden.
ah yes, thats what i call winter in arizona
Sounds like the rainy season for me to be honest.
27°C is quite chill in the Dominican Republic. 24°C - 28°C is the perfect temperature.
We usually have 32°C - 35°C in summers, and this month we had an unusual heat wave of almost 38°C - 40° C. 💀
This episode was so funny but it had its few but kinda existential moments. Can't wait for the next ep!
As someone who does visual art and storytelling as a hobby, the portion about creativity without the profit motive really resonated with me personally.
As far as other forms of entertainment like video games and movies are concerned, we literally got one of the greatest video games out of socialist countries, that being Tetris. It's also interesting to note that George Lucas believed that he would've had more creative freedom with Star Wars had it been made in the USSR (I believe this was talked about in a previous podcast iirc).
It's always funny when folks shout the typical "muh lack of profit motive stifles creativity" nonsense, when most popular media is literally just copy-pasted franchises. In addition to that, it also limits access to otherwise hard-to-access and sometimes lost information, a la the lawsuits put up against the Internet Archive.
So much more JT and no ads.
Had me laughing so hard at the beginning. Probably my favorite episode I've heard so far. Thank you.
God I needed this episode as I've been sick as of late
Part of the reason American doctors are overworked is because of residency quotas. Each hospitals only has a few available residency positions, highly limiting how many graduates can actually get into the career. Then the residents are given 80 hour weeks (basically 24 hours on 24 hours off) instead of having twice as many residents working normal hours! Then a lot of the doctors have this mindset of “well I had to go through it so everyone else needs to suffer as I did!”
the podcast starts at 21:09
2109 oh my God
In Commie CoD you'll play a Lenin/Stalin character whose going SeriousSam on soyjack, Capitalist pigs, landlords, and other bougie beings.
36:39 what if people didn't NEED to have a job at all? Like say most people grow most of their own food and own their land/house. Then they wouldn't really need an income other than for things they would like to have that aren't necessary or that they can't grow themselves. And still they wouldn't need to work much. But you would always have younger people who don't yet have their own house or land so they would work till they get that so there would always be a labor force for whatever industry we would want but it wouldn't be mandatory for survival.
This right here would get you presecuted in place like Soviet Union, work was mandatory for everyone
@@kat3325 if enough people listen it will happen here too. Any state is bad.
Fully Automation Luxury Space People's Capitalism 💪
so no one reads my comments or cares, so i'm gonna just type whatever comes to mind. first off, post-market world, eh? you going for the big step goal i see. i'm hedging my bet and going with a more Varoufakis style form of Socialism, since it seems more realistic at least in my lifetime. either way, market or not, you talk about food as if all food is equally abundant and/or sustainable to grow and distribute at scale, but without market pricing to dictate rations, how would you propose in such an economy that certain foods be given out?
like for example, avocados, almonds, and you could even argue beef, are not sustainable to be given out on mass to whoever wants to eat it at any time in any amount that is possible for maximum consumption. how would you then deal with a non-market economy in which the demand for something is greater than the supply? should there be annual caps per household? first-come first-serve round robin distribution? should some foods be rated and regulated as "endangered" or "rare" and require work credits to afford, or at least if you want to skip the queue of the annual cap?
anyways, as for the other topics, while you are most likely correct that work, especially jobs that not many want to do, probably could become a less mandatory aspect of life, but this is assuming that those in charge are actually committed to a degrowth economy, and that the working class is actually in charge of the revolution instead of installing yet another flawed leader or council that just recreates neoliberal outcomes ~cough~ Deng ~cough~ modern China ~cough~ instead of actually doing the thing they claim to represent.
even in the best case scenario though, there is going to be a need for certain kinds of labor, and i don't think everyone is going to be able to literally do whatever they want in life, at least not easily. certainty, it would obviously be easier in a Socialist or Communist system to follow your dreams, but there is always limitations with whatever system exists, so i feel as though you have to maybe accept a certain level of disappointment even under a supposed leftist utopia.
i will say that from what i've researched of Cuba, they are of the last few longstanding Socialist experiments that have managed fairly well to maintain a certain quality of life. they definitely have ways they can continue to improve things (and perhaps have a different stance on recreational drugs, and handle even something as benign as marijuana similarly to how they regulate alcohol, and i can't believe i have to point out that they've been using American anti-drug propaganda for the basis of such laws, so hey, Cuba, maybe legalize this stuff already? that would be neat).
Literally worked in a development that had no wood on the outside of the wood frame, just Styrofoam with siding on it
I love the chemistry between the differences with you guys in the communism and socialism, but sometimes I feel like you guys should have on an anarchist to rile things up a little more lol.
43:39 in a truly at the bery least socialist society that cares about its people rayher than calling people in on their day off it would be " oh well, the machines can be down for a few hours or a day and it won't hurt anything."
I'd love to see you guys have Kev Polk from Edenicity on
Holy shit 21st century communist humor where's my vineboom sound effect
we should speedrun class consciousness so we can get to this sooner
Hell yeah, our dream will become reality one day all hail imagination.
Drywall stains. If you've exhausted all cleaning methods (warm water & mild detergent, multipurpose cleaners, cleaning erasers) and it's still there then you're left with a few options. Paint, cover, or replace.
hey, on nebula this episode has the audio for 79, in case you’re not aware!
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Imagine having work life balance and job security
Can you guys do a more in depth episode about the automaof jobs and how that would impact the work force?
To pick up from what JT was saying, so far as what the card gaming future could be like, the work that the non-profit Null Signal Games is doing with their fan-driven Netrunner revival might be a good example. No randomized distribution, offering print-and-play files and partnered with print-on-demand services for playing cards. It's entirely proxy-friendly, at their Worlds event they even had an on-site printer in case players wanted to make a last minute change. It is at least a glimpse at how leisure games could work without the push from publishers needing constant growth.
How about tax? Is that thing still exist under Socialism?
Yes
great ep
Can you talk about how feminism has destroyed the family and why men no longer want to get married?
Buhwhaa how'd you end up here?
Just started watching you guys love the content!!
29:40 Raise hell, praise Dale
I unironically could go on several tirades about how suburban sprawl is ruining motorsports in the US, and causing so many treasured short oval tracks getting destroyed, or turned into junkyards for Copart.
So I am so glad I'm watching this episode because I've been thinking about that with yugioh and I think that the fact that the corporate structure in Japan is so based on like cultural norms it would carry over pretty well. As long as the United States is down with it. As far as I'm aware if you win worlds you are basically put on an advisory council and given place at's of Everything. No cash prizes but that's pretty spot on to like the anime at least vibe's wise.
So UUU does not have the same problems that Magic the Gathering does we allow pretty much everything unless it's on the band list there are some controversial things that are in certain formats but not in others and there's arguments to be made and constant debate and it is controlled by konami at the end of the day but they have an ear to the ground so to speak and are watching relatively closely the phone game is by far the most like profit driven one but like it's not even that bad in my opinion. Because you can still get pretty much everything at a relatively cheap price and if you don't wanna deconstruct one of your 20 decks you don't need to because you're 3 of of a certain card is just that 3 of and they all theoretically cost like $3 for the most expensive card if you're just buying everything digitally. Granted it would be nice not to have to buy something cause I already have the one deck I want. Zombies for life baby.
Overall the warping on yugioh cards is just agriegis. And it just keeps getting worse
I'd just have to push back on that idea that we need more Van Gogh's, especially after mentioning we could have a new renaissance. Just think we could do better than Van Gogh.
I’m going to need y’all (you guys) to start making these videos once bimonthly in order to survive
1:04:46 you guys didn’t spend a ton of time talking about video games specifically, but as an avid gamer and game dev myself, the dissolution of profit motive means the complete eradication of psychological tools used by executives to get you to buy more in game items. It’s often referred to as “the Skinner box” in these games like Genshin Impact, Fifa, Diablo Immortal, etc. where you’re constantly gambling not only your money, but your ATTENTION on this game for minuscule scraps. This also bleeds into battle passes, who’s design forces retention and is literally pay-to-FOMO so you’re constantly engaged with the product.
Right now we’re seeing an abundance of open world, battle pass, lootbox video game designs that completely limit the creativity of actual developers for the sake of executive profit motive.
We also see this in effect at big AAA studios. There have been countless (again) open world, loot driven, mmo-like video games in the past 5 years with no desire for iteration or creative freedoms. Why? Because that’s what sells. It’s safe, and big businesses like that. So rather than innovation coming from these big studios staffed by literal hundreds of people, we instead get innovation from indies or smaller budget games.
I foresee that in our post-capitalist society, we’d be free to design and create to our heart’s extent. And if it doesn’t sell well? Oh well, onto the next iteration or next project entirely!
11'20 : ussr under Brejnev, but better and sustainable ?
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