I travelled that road last month. The roads not the problem. I travelled 7000km. The one thing that stood out was the number of drivers towing caravans who have no idea how wide their vans are and dont think to move over a bit further to the left lane when passing a larger vehicle.
The majority of accidents happen due to the human factor, not road conditions. Speeding, fatigue, inattention, using mobile phones, intoxicants, inexperience, impatience, selfishness etc are most frequently the cause. And as a Qld Paramedic of 23 years, it astounds me how many people can see an accident or dangerous situation unfolding in front of them & they don’t even slow down, much less plan or take evasive manoeuvres. EVERYONE should take Advanced Driver Training a few years after they get their licence & should always drive with their full attention focused on the road, vehicles & other hazards around them & be prepared to take evasive action to prevent accidents.
Spot on👍. Most people overtake without waiting for an overtaking lane to save a few minutes. It is just frightening to see how many people approaching on the highway are Not actually watching where they are going either. Looking down at their phone, looking at a passenger's phone or looking at a passenger, deeply engaged in conversation. Young women scare me the most personally, Fully engaged in a conversation on the phone, hands-free yes, but looking at the phone, hands waving around gesturing, yes, sometimes both hands, Fully engrossed in the conversation, totally oblivious to the Semi that just passed them in the opposite direction, both doing 100kph. Maybe a video call or FaceTime or whatever. Fact is, so many people are too deeply distracted to notice oncoming traffic that they must just forget that they are driving I guess. It makes me think that at the time of impact, they literally would not even know what hit them. When you see this sort of thing, several times within 100km distance, it is a frightening indicator, of just how big a problem we have and just makes it all the more surprising that there are not many more fatalities on the roads.
There are 3 issues on the Bruce hwy. 1/ the speed freak travelling way to fast for the road conditions and overtake dangerously….. 2/ but the main cause is the SLOW cognitive impaired DRIVERS who seem oblivious to the world around them, Then speed up on overtaking lanes…..some of these also tow caravans….. 3/ the Tailgaters….mainly heavy vehicles……..but at least we can communicate with them….
I hope this was not caused by the driver losing control of a swaying caravan. I’ve seen this happen so many times where if going to fast, the item being towed is inclined to sway. Wearing seat belts unfortunately doesn’t prevent death is such horrific accidents. I really feel sorrow and sadness for those who have lost their lives and to those families affected. I pray for recovery of those still injured and for the survivors who will have to live with the horror of accident.
Witness reports say bus driver veered into the other lane and for anyone here generalizing negatively about caravans, the car driver actually took evasive action and saved himself and wife, and possibly occupants of the car behind him. Unfortunately the van hit bus.
So very sad for the people & loved ones of all those killed, injured or impacted by this tragedy. Life can change or end in an instant. Please take care on the roads & always leave your loved ones with words & actions of love, no matter what’s going on in your life.
Overtaking ? The Bruce highway needs to be dual it 30years behind time ,with all the traffic on it every day ,but once again north of Gladstone ,we get Jack shite in funding for upgrading the Bruce Highway !
Not everything can be done overnight,people must drive the conditions and keep an eye on the road ,one driver is on the wrong ,lost beautiful lives and they can not be replaced?
That’s not true at all. Many $millions are being spent every year upgrading & maintaining the highway north of Gladstone. The majority of accidents happen due to the human factor, not road conditions. Speeding, fatigue, inattention, using mobile phones, intoxicants, inexperience, impatience etc are most frequently the cause. And as a Qld Paramedic of 23 years, it astounds me how many people can see an accident or dangerous situation unfolding in front of them & they don’t even slow down, much less plan or take evasive manoeuvres. EVERYONE should take Advanced Driver Training a few years after they get their licence & should always drive with their full attention focused on the road, vehicles & other hazards around them & be prepared to take evasive action to prevent accidents.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was the 4WD towing the caravan that was making a dangerous overtaking manoeuvre, resulting in the collision on the buses side of the highway!
@@kjangmy In Australia, most caravans are towed by large powerful four-wheel-drives (not cars), so most have no trouble exceeding the maximum speed-limit of 110 kmph! Also all Australian commercial heavy vehicles including trucks/coaches/buses are fitted with 100 kmph speed-limiters (although it possible for them to exceed that down hills)!
@@Asone82 Yes, I heard that but the investigations is still ongoing. The bus may have had a tyre blow-out from a pothole, or was avoiding one. Another possibility is a medical-episode, or simply dozed off. Whatever the reason, the truth will come out, but those keyboard-experts simply saying bus-drivers are dangerous as they speed don't realise that Aussie heavy-vehicles 100 kmph speed-limiters fitted (although some cowboy truck drivers disable them)!
Drove down to Airle Beach in March. A very aggressive Greyhound driver was tailgating my Van for several kms. It over took me and almost hit me. I would love like to say I am surprised by another bus incident but I am not.
I heard one of the TV news presenters say yesterday that it was part of the caravan. I don't know how accurate that is, but when looking at it closely it looks very much like it.
You may be referring to the side panel that is part of the side of the bus from around the front wheel and a large luggage compartment door beside it is raised up and sticking out as well
If you look at the back of the bus, (top left hand side) you'll see a piece of steel sticking out. This was from the caravan when it shot through the bus.
I travel from Cairns to Mackay often and caravan drivers are a constant problem. I know most are retired and not in a hurry but I often get caught stuck behind a Caravan doing 70 kph in a 100 zone. This is so frustrating and angers me when there are cars lined up behind these people for up to 1 KM. People take risks and overtake these slow-moving caravans. Its actually an offence to go so below the speed limit, but they are retired and got all the time in the world. If they were considerate they would let 3 cars build up behind them and then pull over to keep the flow of traffic, but they don't, they stick on 70 all the way to their destination. Even vans that sit on 90 in a 100 zone are frustrating. If your car cannot handle the speed limit or you are not confident enough to do the speed limit then my guess is GET OFF THE ROAD. If I'm even planning a short trip on the Bruce highway I need to take into account the Caravaners will be on the roads after 8am so leave at 6am to avoid them. It really is that bad. This incident didn't give the cause of the accident but I bet, I will even put money on it that the bus was overtaking a caravaner that was going too slow. I mean model T fords top speed was 35mph. Vehicles have changed a lot since then and the vehicles towing these caravans are more than capable of towing and keeping up with the speed limit. Just that they are in no hurry to get anywhere and very happy to take in the scenery at everyone else's expense and in this case everyone else's life. The police must pull these snail carts over and remind them other people are on the road.
Take your anger management pills. Your rant has nothing to do with this. Witness reports say the bus driver is at fault veering into the other lane, probably dozed off. The car driver actually prevented more deaths with fast evasive action.
I'd suggest it's fairly easy to overtake a vehicle doing 70 in 110km/h zone. Much easier than sitting behind a car + caravan sitting on 110 in 110 k zone, 'cos you can't without breaking the speed limit (illegal). Instead, you have to sit behind it while it blocks your view. If they're sitting on 90-100, it's still pretty easy. Maybe they're avoiding build up "sway" - now that makes it hard to overtake a caravan.
The majority of accidents happen due to the human factor, not road conditions. Speeding, fatigue, inattention, using mobile phones, intoxicants, inexperience, impatience etc are most frequently the cause. And as a Qld Paramedic of 23 years, it astounds me how many people can see an accident or dangerous situation unfolding in front of them & they don’t even slow down, much less plan or take evasive manoeuvres. EVERYONE should take Advanced Driver Training a few years after they get their licence & should always drive with their full attention focused on the road, vehicles & other hazards around them & be prepared to take evasive action to prevent accidents. The Bruce Highway is often implicated because of the volume of traffic & the fact it’s our major highway throughout the country with millions using it every day, not necessarily because of the conditions of the road 🤷♀️ That’s like saying “vehicles strike again”
My mate arrived at this nightmare about two minutes after it happened as he was driving back to Townsville. He stayed there for hours treating the injured and helping where he could. The way those 3 poor women died was absolutely horrendous.
I hope the women didnt suffer and it was quick and painless :( so sad. My boyfriend and I drove past this area just the day before. The amount of cavavans on the road was insane. Lots of dangerous overtaking happening too. I know this wasnt the cause of this accident but its so sad and good reminder for people to be patient and careful on roads :(
I travelled that road last month. The roads not the problem. I travelled 7000km. The one thing that stood out was the number of drivers towing caravans who have no idea how wide their vans are and dont think to move over a bit further to the left lane when passing a larger vehicle.
The majority of accidents happen due to the human factor, not road conditions. Speeding, fatigue, inattention, using mobile phones, intoxicants, inexperience, impatience, selfishness etc are most frequently the cause. And as a Qld Paramedic of 23 years, it astounds me how many people can see an accident or dangerous situation unfolding in front of them & they don’t even slow down, much less plan or take evasive manoeuvres. EVERYONE should take Advanced Driver Training a few years after they get their licence & should always drive with their full attention focused on the road, vehicles & other hazards around them & be prepared to take evasive action to prevent accidents.
Spot on👍. Most people overtake without waiting for an overtaking lane to save a few minutes. It is just frightening to see how many people approaching on the highway are Not actually watching where they are going either. Looking down at their phone, looking at a passenger's phone or looking at a passenger, deeply engaged in conversation. Young women scare me the most personally, Fully engaged in a conversation on the phone, hands-free yes, but looking at the phone, hands waving around gesturing, yes, sometimes both hands, Fully engrossed in the conversation, totally oblivious to the Semi that just passed them in the opposite direction, both doing 100kph. Maybe a video call or FaceTime or whatever. Fact is, so many people are too deeply distracted to notice oncoming traffic that they must just forget that they are driving I guess. It makes me think that at the time of impact, they literally would not even know what hit them. When you see this sort of thing, several times within 100km distance, it is a frightening indicator, of just how big a problem we have and just makes it all the more surprising that there are not many more fatalities on the roads.
There are 3 issues on the Bruce hwy.
1/ the speed freak travelling way to fast for the road conditions and overtake dangerously…..
2/ but the main cause is the SLOW cognitive impaired DRIVERS who seem oblivious to the world around them,
Then speed up on overtaking lanes…..some of these also tow caravans…..
3/ the Tailgaters….mainly heavy vehicles……..but at least we can communicate with them….
Love to Queensland from NSW. We know your grief re Lovedale. ❤😢
Praying for you all. 🇦🇺❤️🇦🇺❤️
I hope this was not caused by the driver losing control of a swaying caravan. I’ve seen this happen so many times where if going to fast, the item being towed is inclined to sway. Wearing seat belts unfortunately doesn’t prevent death is such horrific accidents. I really feel sorrow and sadness for those who have lost their lives and to those families affected. I pray for recovery of those still injured and for the survivors who will have to live with the horror of accident.
No it was bus driver fault veering into the other lane
That’s not good. Just feeling for those lost and the pain that comes through loss of life to families
Witness reports say bus driver veered into the other lane and for anyone here generalizing negatively about caravans, the car driver actually took evasive action and saved himself and wife, and possibly occupants of the car behind him. Unfortunately the van hit bus.
So very sad for the people & loved ones of all those killed, injured or impacted by this tragedy. Life can change or end in an instant. Please take care on the roads & always leave your loved ones with words & actions of love, no matter what’s going on in your life.
😮😮 so sorry 😢💔💔
Overtaking ? The Bruce highway needs to be dual it 30years behind time ,with all the traffic on it every day ,but once again north of Gladstone ,we get Jack shite in funding for upgrading the Bruce Highway !
Not everything can be done overnight,people must drive the conditions and keep an eye on the road ,one driver is on the wrong ,lost beautiful lives and they can not be replaced?
@@nickfilopoulos7428
Thirty years is overnight, we'll wait and wait and wait.
That’s not true at all. Many $millions are being spent every year upgrading & maintaining the highway north of Gladstone. The majority of accidents happen due to the human factor, not road conditions. Speeding, fatigue, inattention, using mobile phones, intoxicants, inexperience, impatience etc are most frequently the cause. And as a Qld Paramedic of 23 years, it astounds me how many people can see an accident or dangerous situation unfolding in front of them & they don’t even slow down, much less plan or take evasive manoeuvres. EVERYONE should take Advanced Driver Training a few years after they get their licence & should always drive with their full attention focused on the road, vehicles & other hazards around them & be prepared to take evasive action to prevent accidents.
@@nickfilopoulos7428 Overnight???? new here?> come fom a 3rd world country?. Lots of money for lots of unecessary things...
@@allisonjames2923
Nice rant however dual carriageway has been proven 💯% safer can't hide your head in the sand.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was the 4WD towing the caravan that was making a dangerous overtaking manoeuvre, resulting in the collision on the buses side of the highway!
I doubt it
Have you ever tried to pass a Greyhound Bus?
I doubt if a Car towing a caravan could get up enough speed to pass a Greyhound Bus.
@@kjangmy In Australia, most caravans are towed by large powerful four-wheel-drives (not cars), so most have no trouble exceeding the maximum speed-limit of 110 kmph! Also all Australian commercial heavy vehicles including trucks/coaches/buses are fitted with 100 kmph speed-limiters (although it possible for them to exceed that down hills)!
Travelling in opposite directions, one or the other may have taken evasive action due to another incident. Nothing is confirmed yet.
Witness reports say the bus driver veered into the other lane
@@Asone82 Yes, I heard that but the investigations is still ongoing. The bus may have had a tyre blow-out from a pothole, or was avoiding one. Another possibility is a medical-episode, or simply dozed off.
Whatever the reason, the truth will come out, but those keyboard-experts simply saying bus-drivers are dangerous as they speed don't realise that Aussie heavy-vehicles 100 kmph speed-limiters fitted (although some cowboy truck drivers disable them)!
Drove down to Airle Beach in March. A very aggressive Greyhound driver was tailgating my Van for several kms. It over took me and almost hit me. I would love like to say I am surprised by another bus incident but I am not.
This is not the first and the only accident recently from greyhound if the police extend the investigation.
The Bus Is A Complete Write Off 😭
Maybe made from aluminium from what's left of it.
what is the large piece of metal sticking out of the bus???
That's the crane-part of the heavy-vehicle recovery truck (heavy-duty tow-truck).
@@MrWombatty Okay - thanks. I thought something had skewered the bus somehow. I couldn't make it out.
I heard one of the TV news presenters say yesterday that it was part of the caravan. I don't know how accurate that is, but when looking at it closely it looks very much like it.
You may be referring to the side panel that is part of the side of the bus from around the front wheel and a large luggage compartment door beside it is raised up and sticking out as well
If you look at the back of the bus, (top left hand side) you'll see a piece of steel sticking out. This was from the caravan when it shot through the bus.
I travel from Cairns to Mackay often and caravan drivers are a constant problem. I know most are retired and not in a hurry but I often get caught stuck behind a Caravan doing 70 kph in a 100 zone. This is so frustrating and angers me when there are cars lined up behind these people for up to 1 KM. People take risks and overtake these slow-moving caravans. Its actually an offence to go so below the speed limit, but they are retired and got all the time in the world. If they were considerate they would let 3 cars build up behind them and then pull over to keep the flow of traffic, but they don't, they stick on 70 all the way to their destination.
Even vans that sit on 90 in a 100 zone are frustrating. If your car cannot handle the speed limit or you are not confident enough to do the speed limit then my guess is GET OFF THE ROAD.
If I'm even planning a short trip on the Bruce highway I need to take into account the Caravaners will be on the roads after 8am so leave at 6am to avoid them. It really is that bad. This incident didn't give the cause of the accident but I bet, I will even put money on it that the bus was overtaking a caravaner that was going too slow. I mean model T fords top speed was 35mph. Vehicles have changed a lot since then and the vehicles towing these caravans are more than capable of towing and keeping up with the speed limit. Just that they are in no hurry to get anywhere and very happy to take in the scenery at everyone else's expense and in this case everyone else's life. The police must pull these snail carts over and remind them other people are on the road.
The bus was heading north the car was heading south.
Take your anger management pills. Your rant has nothing to do with this. Witness reports say the bus driver is at fault veering into the other lane, probably dozed off. The car driver actually prevented more deaths with fast evasive action.
I'd suggest it's fairly easy to overtake a vehicle doing 70 in 110km/h zone. Much easier than sitting behind a car + caravan sitting on 110 in 110 k zone, 'cos you can't without breaking the speed limit (illegal). Instead, you have to sit behind it while it blocks your view. If they're sitting on 90-100, it's still pretty easy. Maybe they're avoiding build up "sway" - now that makes it hard to overtake a caravan.
The Bruce Highway strikes again
Bad drivers caused this.
Not the road
The majority of accidents happen due to the human factor, not road conditions. Speeding, fatigue, inattention, using mobile phones, intoxicants, inexperience, impatience etc are most frequently the cause. And as a Qld Paramedic of 23 years, it astounds me how many people can see an accident or dangerous situation unfolding in front of them & they don’t even slow down, much less plan or take evasive manoeuvres. EVERYONE should take Advanced Driver Training a few years after they get their licence & should always drive with their full attention focused on the road, vehicles & other hazards around them & be prepared to take evasive action to prevent accidents. The Bruce Highway is often implicated because of the volume of traffic & the fact it’s our major highway throughout the country with millions using it every day, not necessarily because of the conditions of the road 🤷♀️ That’s like saying “vehicles strike again”
@@gregwaghorn8496 WE are 'cared' for in every other way, e.g.remember a reqired medication, etc etc roads need to be wide enough to cater.
The cop didn't answer any questions just it's very complex
My mate arrived at this nightmare about two minutes after it happened as he was driving back to Townsville. He stayed there for hours treating the injured and helping where he could. The way those 3 poor women died was absolutely horrendous.
Hope he copes with it ok. Could not imagine how traumatic that would be.
I hope the women didnt suffer and it was quick and painless :( so sad. My boyfriend and I drove past this area just the day before. The amount of cavavans on the road was insane. Lots of dangerous overtaking happening too. I know this wasnt the cause of this accident but its so sad and good reminder for people to be patient and careful on roads :(