Red Dead Redemption 2 & 1 - All Gang Members' Deaths (from Davey to Abigail) [PC, 4K]
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- All Dutch's gang members' deaths that we can see in Red Dead Redemption 2 and Red Dead Redemption 1 from Davey Callender at the beginning of RDR2 to Abigail Marston at the end of RDR1.
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*Timecodes*
0:00 Davey
1:02 Sean
2:30 Kieran
3:45 Hosea
4:54 Lenny
5:28 Molly
7:13 Miss Grimshaw
8:11 Arthur (Low Honor)
11:43 Arthur (High Honor)
14:26 Micah
15:33 Javier
17:34 Bill
18:35 Dutch
21:44 Uncle
23:18 John
26:28 Abigail
@Hermelinda Darvish scam
@Knox Roman and your in on it
She new the rules and so did I # rickroll
@@kamrenpharis1622 Its "so do I" plus no one gives a sh*t bout it
@@calyx2142 sheesh
In the end, Arthur had the high mountain and Dutch died at the bottom of it.
Micah died at the high mountain too
@@tata-bs6ve that mountain top is cold and lonely
Arthur got the best view of the sunset
Micah's got the cold embrace of the snow and died face down to it.
@@tu4i775 Yh we can tell Micah is worser than Arthur even though both them were crminals
How do you find ditches death in the game!
@@monkeyboy5305 It’s in Red Dead Redemption one.
I bet no one in 1899 woulda thought uncle would outlive 95% of them.
Not with his lumbago
@@unclesam1433 🤣🤣
@@unclesam1433 roflmfao
Ungle savige
What about the ones that left before they could die like trelawny or tilly?
John definitely got his redemption, the way he sacrificed himself for his family and his overall growth since the blackwater heist is phenomenal
John had a tear when putting javier in the cell
@@listy0fsmegeven though Javier was a filthy rat. I can understand the sentiment. I had superclose friends too who done stuff before their death and made everyone turn against them. Wether it was drugs that fucked them up or they were always rotten. I couldn't help mourn for them when they died (poorly)
@@easygrin1127Javier wasnt a rat? he just sided with Dutch
@@easygrin1127 Javier just sided with Dutch. Plus he wasn't pointing his gun for Arthur and John, his gun was pointed at the sky
@@jadendeadredemption7262well in rdr1 you find out what he was up to soon as he left them there at that faithful campsite. And everyone his own people find him a dispicable rat. And even if he doubts at first he sure is gunning for Arthur and John right after.
Dutch asking “who’s with me and who’s betraying me?” just after Micah shot Miss Grimshaw, who was one of the most loyal people out of the gang just shows how much he lost it at that point.
Creepy Joe asking who’s with me and who’s betraying me after Obama shot Kamala Harris out of frustration at trumps success really goes to show how much the democrats lost it and trumps the chosen one to save us
Dutch didn’t care about loyalty he just wanted everyone to suck up to him
There is a camp interaction where Dutch goes off on her like he does on John and Arthur. So Micah had convinced him that Ms. Grimshaw wasn't loyal either, since she questioned his "Plan"
The moment Hosea died was the moment the gang was doomed. Hosea kept Dutch in line for the most part. He was the only guy I think could’ve talked some sense into Dutch.
Agreed, especially considering any questions were basically considered treason in dutch's eyes
Just imagine his (dutch) mental state knowing that everyone was killed because of his greed specially those who have been loyal and cared for him.
No dude. Hosea still let the engagement with Colm happen resulting in Arthur's torture
Exactly. That’s why the gang fell apart
From what i remember it all started when dutch hit his head on a mission in saint dennis from there on he started going crazy
imagine if uncle whispered in John's ears during his last moment "i never really had any lumbago you dumbass"
😭
Uncle and authur and John are the best the shoulda been the only one to survive
Did u know lambago is real
Damn !!!!
If rdr1 ever gets remastered i really want uncle to say that before dying
It also suits his character
@@ravenhernandez2352 yeah it’s lower back pain lml, half these ppl don’t know that but it’s funny cause it’s his excuse every time when damn wel lower back pain shouldn’t stop you from doing much gunslinging lol
As for Uncle.. well it wasn't the bullet that killed him. When it hit his flesh it travelled through his body and struck his spine agitating his already very serious lumbago even further. Sadly this caused him to then soil himself loudly, complain his back hurts and then finally succome to his lifelong struggle with the terminal disease
Poor old Uncle I'll forever think of you when i lift heavy things RIP
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For me, John's death is sadder than Arthur's. Arthur's was dramatic, but we all knew he was gonna die one way or another. John's death however was REALLY unexpected. We though he'd have a normal life after killing Dutch. It was too fast, too sudden. I couldn't even process what happened. Atleast both of em got avenged, they both also redeemed themselves, hence the name Red Dead REDEMPTION.
edit : typing "edit" makes me feel like a yt shorts kid but im js expressing my opinion. its okay if you think arthur's is sadder, for me, its john's. just clarifying that. im not saying john is better than arthur in any way
Arthur's death was more sadder because It was a very slow death, we knew he was gonna die and hence we were so upset about it because there was nothing we could do. and John just died a quick and unexpected death so It was upseting but I haven't lost sleep because it happen once and we got done with it and we also got a quick redemption for that so...
@@Billioncompany786exactly
The game named Red Dead Redemption, tbh, the characters was destined to die. Doesn't matter how much goods they do, they will have to pay for the bad deeds they have done. The damage is done, ain't nothing can save 'em from that fate. Jack was the only one didn't engaging in all those outlaw killing and robbing, he ended up living good.
@@elbardthawne7568 They both became different men by the end of their stories, but in the end, people don't forget.
@@Woodland_Mansion I didn't said anything about this opinion though... I just said what I think (is my opinion).
“You gotta run and don’t look back” - Arthur (RDR2)
“You keep riding and don’t look back” - John (RDR1)
Omg I just realised that
John learned from the one and only
They reunited on RDR1
@@paper8510 they didn't
@@paper8510 you high?
You can see the look in Dutch’s face when he realizes Arthur never betrayed him
If you pause you can see the exact moment where dutch realized he fucked up... *click click click* THERE RIGHT THERE
Yeah he just woked up and realised that he ruined his gang
I think that's why he waited to kill Micah when John was present. He knew John would eventually come after Micah.
John: What are you doing here, Dutch?
Dutch: Same as you, I suppose.
@@localvaultcompanion3516 holy fuck. I never even realized. Ive beaten this game a couple times and I WAS WONDERING WHY DUTCH SAID THAT! Thank you. That shit is poetic
Dutch’s actor cried after doing that scene
Sean was such a character, I think his shock factor of death hit way too hard…. Unique guy
Finally someone talks about Sean's death, right when I was starting to really like him he got taken away. I had to replay the mission to see if it was possible to save him, also tried that with Lenny's death. But as a wise purple man was said "I am inevitable".
I literally paused and sat for a solid minute just processing what just happened
Thank you for recognizing Sean, he was headshotted and no one even cared
@@Oliapp8I almost did the same but I just gasped lmao
The sudden shock of his death makes the fight so much harder because I was just like NOOOOOOO NOT SEAAAAAAN
Grimshaw's death hit me the hardest. With all of them, even Lenny who didn't get a proper cutscene, the gang members acknowledged that someone had passed, making comments and arrangements to tend to the body. Grimshaw was the lady of the gang who took care of the camp and kept it running efficiently. She basically helped raise a number of the gang members. When Tilly went missing, she demanded she and Arthur hunt the bastard down and insisted he be killed for touching one of her girls. Then she was shot and left for dead in the dirt, crying out in agony and no one was moving to comfort her or put her out of her misery. She loved on all the gang members like a mother, then was put down like a dog. It stings that this older woman did so much and in the end got so very little.
she deserved better. I love that she saw through Dutch and the others and took Arthur's side, too. Micah's such a snake, and Dutch was crazy for not seeing that until Arthur's death.
@@corsojameshoseas death hit dutch hard, micah wouldn't have got as close to dutch if hosea survived since hosea was 2nd in charge and that wouldn't of changed if he was alive
Dutch was going mentally insane, so something would've went wrong in the gang sooner or later@@robbie5010
she killed molly though
@@tripleduckMolly is the reason why Hosea died. She was the one who talked before the bank job. She begged for Dutch's love and attention even though he clearly didn't reciprocate the feelings, and betrayed him for that. Her death wasn't 100% deserved, but she did have it coming
The real Dutch died when Hosea died
Facts
The real dutch died way before that. I’d say it really got bad after the death if Sean
@@SaintJerry Dutch was going out of control, and Hosea tired to not get him carried away and ahead of things like not going after bronte
I think he lost his mind when he shot that girl on the Ferry
@@laze1000 yh prob, at that moment he wanted to be fully w Micah. After all, Micah convinced Dutch to kill her
It seems that Dutch's sanity died with Hosea.
The last straw was when he got stranded on that old island
He started to go insane when he shot that woman in blackwater
YUp, He lost the one he trusted most 1st, then lost himself, starting to lose trust in people because Micah was the snake in his ear. We dont see it before it's too late but it easy to undestand when Dutch make you go save Micah. He acted already like he 100% trusted Micah. This is a great indicator that he lost his moral compas even before the story begin and trusted bad people. In the end, he lost everything. This is a tragedy.
hosea was his voice of reason
Yep
Sad and unexpected as it may have been, Sean probably had the most painless death of all. He didn't see it coming and he never got to witness Micah's betrayal and the gang falling apart.
I still don't know how Micah got away with killing Miss Grimshaw in front of everyone. He just randomly shot her, and everyone just ignored her as she lay on the ground screaming. Did none of the gang members care about anyone but themselves at that point?
I feel so bad for Jack at the end of RDR1. He saw his whole family die in front of him. Only three years passed after his dad and Uncle died and he looks like he aged a full decade. He had to bury his own mother. Going after Ross was the only thing he could do to find closure in his tragic life.
What about lenny
He got blasted in the stomach by a shotgun wpuldnt say that was painless and saw hosea and sean die@@savagethepunisher
Lenny died during combat and probably under stress. So Sean was better off.
Everyone in the end was really just thinking for themselves. Yes Micah shot Grimshaw but who really cared about her at that point. Just an old lady who really has no value
Jack, well. If he didnt go after Ross, he couldve just lived a normal life (in the modern age). But now he probably got the feds after him
Arthur most definitely cared for grimshaw but he just don't have the time to grieve
“I didn’t lose.”
“I stopped you.”
“And I told everyone you were a rat.”
“That’s winning enough for me.”
Those are the saddest last words I’ve heard
Saddest moment when Arthur say to Dutch “I gave you all I had... I did.”
Yes it was!
saddest moment in gaming.. also when he told his horse he/she did a good job. so sad
100% breaks my heart every time
@@johnbird7599 the actor who plays Dutch said when they were doing that scene in mocap he would always be crying as he walked away
I don’t know how but when he said “I did” after some of them made it even sadder
It’s funny how at the start we were like “no one will beat John Marstons character” and then we met Arthur Morgan and wow.
Only today i finished the game, i was about to cry alot of times, honestly i love both characters but i was alot more attached to Morgan
i do prefer john to be honest, as he looks like my dad. But we can all agree jack sucks
@@DragonSchizo No he doesn't or, at least not in my opinion. If you had to grow up the way he did and then get taken by the government and in the end when you finally think it's over your father dies and you have to see he's lifeless blood soaked body, then bury him. A year or two later your mother dies. How would you feel? What would your look on life be? What would be your attitude? I don't blame him in the slightest.
Johns hits harder to me at least. His death was unexpected and incredibly violent. Arthur was a good character but just not the level of badass John was. His death was painful too but it wasn't the same. The second he was diagnosed with TB I knew he was done for, as it was fatal back then.
@@xxmadmax999xx I remember John's death being the biggest shock I've ever had in a game at the time, maybe to this day. You gotta give rockstar props though. Everyone knew arthur would die and wanted to play as John, the fact that they were able to make everyone fall in love with Arthur and still find a way to kill him in a completely unexpected way is impressive as hell.
It’s honestly sad that Edgar Ross is the one who caused all the deaths in the game. He’s the one who hired Micah to try to betray the gang and he’s also the one who had everyone killed in rdr1, Abagail, Uncle, John, Javier, Bill, and Dutch
damn i didn’t see it that way, jack didn’t only avenge his father, he avenged the gang.
But, what about Kieran and Sean
@@Jreaq Kieran was murdered by the O'driscolls so I guess he was the only death Ross didn't cause
@@user-fg2ow8cj7z Sean too was killed by the Grays after he literally burned down the Gray’s tobacco fields with Arthur
@@Jreaqoh yeah
as much as i love arthur, john’s death was definitely the most heartbreaking in the story. All of that struggle, all of the stuff he went through for the gang and his family, only to get *brutally* betrayed and gunned down. At least arthur had the luxury of having a sort of glorious death, he fought until he couldn’t anymore, and the hope that he could help john helped him rest easier. John just got betrayed, lit up with little to no warning, after everything he did to save himself, leaving his family to suffer, ultimately making arthur’s efforts in vain
And another heartbreaking thing is that that Joe Biden isn’t really the villain that’s actually just Obama controlling him pulling the strings in reality Joe is just an old man who’s being used it’s very sad indeed but despite that he’s still the villain and we need to stop him so let’s all vote trump
I don’t agree. I don’t know what your meaning of “glorious” is. But I do know that Arthur’s death was nothing like it. Arthur’s death was more heartbreaking because as Red Dead Redemption 2 progressed, everyone knew that Arthur was going to die, which made it very heartbreaking and hard to process. Also, another reason why his death wasn’t “glorious”, is because he died a slow and painful death, while John’s death was rather more quick, (I wouldn’t say painless) but a better way to die than suffering from a disease that will slowly and painfully kill you. Also I believe Arthur had joined the gang before John, which means Arthur most likely went through more stuff with the gang just to be betrayed.
@@Cedeelambbyou're wrong and your opinion is completely absurd. John's death was much sadder. John's family would have gotten killed without him sacrificing himself to a firing squad and getting torn to pieces by the people he hated the most. Arthur died on a mountain of illness or gets shot in the head by Micah. Either way John makes it off the mountain, so I don't see how Arthur saved John. John literally lead him up the mountain then Arthur stays to fight Micah. Even if Arthur decided to run with John he was dying on that mountain and John was making it off.
@@Cedeelambbhow did Arthur hey betrayed by the gang? If anything Arthur changed when he got sick and was the gang was sick of him and John. From the gangs perspective Arthur changed and turned on them because he was having a moral crisis because he was sick. And they knew John didn't want to be there either and he was going to leave with his wife and kid. John already left one time.
@@jessebailey5962 Lord your completely wrong. Arthur was screwed over by the gang just as much as John was, but I still believe Arthur’s death was more heartbreaking than John’s. John died for a good purpose, saving his family in the process and Jack later getting revenge for him. Arthur however died an ill, still relatively young man on the side of a rocky mountain. Arthur died in a very uncomfortable way with how bad his tuberculosis was. In the alternate ending, the person Arthur hates most, Micah shoots him in the face. My point still stands and as you talk about John getting shredded with bullets by “the people he hated most”, John didn’t hate those agents as much as Arthur hated Micah with his guts.
“John made it. He’s the only one...”
Looks like *I* made it too😈
I always thought he said Sean
@@santaisnotreal1240 ah yes sean who has a hole in his head and is 6 ft under
@@santaisnotreal1240 bruh...are you stupid?
@@arthurmorgan3020 yesaaa
Micah: Shoots Mrs. Grimshaw in the stomach.
Dutch: “Who here is betraying me?”
That was so sad
The screams...
😂😂😂😂
My god. I was enraged. I was like bitch, he just killed one of the most useful people in the camp. What you mean?
😂😂😂
Fun fact (or not): At Dutch death, while speaking to John he gives a very close, if not the same speech he gave to the soldier on that mission where Arthur help Dutch and Eagle flies to ambush the Army.
Then Arthur and Dutch jump from the mountain to the river down there.
Just finished the game today and I remebered too. He mentioned gravity again and if you would have played rdr2 first then you would probably know that he was about to "jump" and kill himself.
I got a plan. This is a good one.
Another fun fact is that creepy Joe isn’t actually the villain it’s actually just Obama pulling the strings in reality Joe is just a kind old man who’s being controlled a sad fact actually anyway we still gotta stop him both of them so let’s all vote trump and put an end to Obama evil career
@@theskull961just vote trump man and save our country and please just do it
@@mcj2219AND I HAVE A plan aswell it’s to vote trump and end this madness
you know that the franchise is a masterpiece because everyone in this comments has different favorite character from the other , these charters are so well written that you feel something inside you when they die
Arthur meeting Lenny in heaven
*”LENNY MY BOY”*
teerG LeNnY
Murders and thieves don’t go to heaven
@@ben0466 they do when they deeply regret their decisions
@@goosegangsta6508 if I kill someone but feel bad afterwards felt sowwwwy I still robbed someone of a father , brother , son .. you’re a dolt who just liked the idea of Arthur Morgan the video game cowboy .. but in real life someone like him should be thrown in jail
@@ben0466 Jesus dude I just said they can go to heaven when they have regrets
The sad fact is Hosea was the person who held the gang together.
True, when he died, the gang broke up slowly
@@Gusta_012 ya when hosea died they didn't have anything to keep it together
Even though he was holding them together they would have disbanded anyway, like a rubberband stretched for too long.
Dutch did say as long as he has Arthur and hosea by his side the gang would be just fine
@@waveee.0zz231 he had Arthur, what happened?
To me the saddest death was Kieran. He was a loyal member and saved Arthur’s life. He didn’t deserve that kind of treatment
Arthur’s death will always be the saddest in my opinion. I got so attached to his character the first time I played and at first when I learned he got tb my happiness just left and I felt Arthur’s depression during the last chapter. High honor Arthur is the saddest death no matter which cutscene you get. Arthur will always be my favorite.
I feel like the saddest part about high honor Arthur is the broken, almost crying voice as he said "he’s a rat Dutch, he’s a rat" even as he’s dying he still tries to warn Dutch
It hurt so badly to hear, wanted Dutch to just kill Micah then and there
I’m I weird for not caring to much I cared for everyone else’s pretty much except Micah
I got shot in the head by Micah on the cliffside. I was waiting for Dutch to see Micahs betrayal and put a bullet between his eyes. Sadly Arthur does not get a happy ending. 😔
@@arthurmorgan835 that means you done lot a bad things and choose wrong decission buddy dont that bullshit micah got killed by jhon and arthur was avenged
It's because Arthur still loves Dutch, at the end he's still pleading with Dutch saying he "gave all he had", like he's trying to make sure his dad is proud of him and not disappointed before he dies. Right up to his death he's still trying to warn Dutch, hoping that he'll turn back to what he remembered him as. It's ironic how as Arthur accepted the loss of Dutch as a father, he allowed the responsibility for himself to graduate into a father for John, since John lost that in Dutch too.
The fact that Dutch chose to believe a man he rode with for almost a year over the guy he basically raised is astonishing. Arthur seemed like he was trying to keep Dutch "sane" (for lack of a better term) like Hosea did.
There’s a theory that during the post office robbery when the trolley explodes Dutch’s head injury effects his brain
He saw John and Arthur as sons. Hosea could reason with him since Dutch saw him as his equal and they were partners too. Since he raised and taught john and Arthur, he could never see them as people from whom he could take advice. Keep in mind Dutch's plans were all crashing down, one after the other coupled with his own anguish over his losses and the recent deaths. He took sole responsibility for everything, when he should have admitted his defeat and sought advice and counsel from his "sons" and fellow gang members who cared for him instead of going on a revenge, hunting down his rivals for good. He had to let himself open to others compassion, but he cocoons himself because he is too proud of a leader. Its sad story all round this rdr2.
@@brithwill1796 that would explain his erratic behavior. But I think he just got paranoid after some of the other older gang member started to betray him I think that pushed him over the edge.
Another reason for it is because Arthur and John kept doubting his plans which made him think that they dont trust him anymore while Micah was asskissing him making him think that he will be on his side no matter what
Dutch was slowly getting desperate, specially with the Pinkertons on their tais. He made aggressive bold dangerous plans which were put in doubt for other members, and only Micah who was also that aggressive liked those plans.
Hosea was Dutch thinking counterbalance, and when he was killed, and Molly confessed she told the Pinkertons the robbery plan, Dutch became more paranoic and aggressive, siding more and more with Micah than the family who started to doubt him for his own good.
When you said Arthur wasn’t just the best character in rdr2 but all of gaming really tugged at my heart. Arthur was someone we all wish we could be like and playing as him really does. I’m not kidding when I say Arthur touched my heart and helped shape me to be an even better man than I am. I was 17 when I met him and replaying at 20 has brought it all back once more. RIP to a great man, RIP Arthur Morgan.
Sean's death honestly set the tone for the rest of the game. Michah's phsycophathic response to his death forshadows his betrayal later. I knew from that moment "Oh were all gonna die."
Bro, Duth's death is Bill and Javie's death, it's not their fault, it's also very sad, the one who made Duth's head was Micah Bell's mouse, Jon's, man, it's sad, dms
When Micah wore white while rest of the gang wore dark cloths for the bank heist, I knew he was the rat.
When you saw the decline of the happy camp to a sad angry hateful camp throughout the story was a real kick in the stomach for me
The worst for me was seeing the camp get smaller. Like when Trelawney left the camp. A small character but sad to see the gang dwindle
The happiest part is that Sadie and most of the others got away before death and left the gang
What looked like a happy camp ended in hate
Sameee! Specially when they had party together when Jack was retrieved back! Good times! 🥺😭
Lol so what i did after beating the game, start a new game by the time you first get the camp near Rhodes, i never proceed further into the game and everyone stays alive happily ever after
This is why i loved the camp on the hill near valentine, no one died in that segment
Stay in chapter 2 as long as you can
@@MikeyDenny that's what I did I just free roamed a lot and the only mission that would be left is the Thomas Downs mission
And micah was in jail
@@2econdhand_v4nity eventually the game forces you to do it
@@MikeyDenny Chapter 4 is the best for roaming bc the gang is mostly happy and you have access to everything Arthur can do
On the exact moment of Sean's death, everything went to hell.
I just completed Rdr2. And now after watching this, i cannot hold back the tears anymore. Everything Arthur fought for fell apart. I feel so bad for John, he was betrayed. Seeing Abigail and Jack watching over John's corpse is truly gut wrenching. I still remember how John raised Jack and proposed Abigail in the epilogue of rdr2. I wish rdr had a happy ending.
Arthur was dying from tb and Micah still barely beat him. He is one tough man.
Who is with me!? As Micah shoots a gang member.
Arthur did beat a man 2x his size, help people in the gang and manage to beat an army of Pinkertons,etc…
He would have won with flying colours if his TB was not that bad at the end.
@@pewpew1943 I wish there was a ending to where you and John make it out and Arthur gets the rest he needs cures his tb and you can switch between characters like in gta5
@@waveee.0zz231 his tb was too fatal, he was gonna die either way
Notice how when Lenny dies only Arthur stops Charles almost stops and Javier looks back but Dutch, Bill and Micah just run by without looking
Javier is a good man but his loyalty blinded him.
@@kingf6766 yea and i can't blame him i mean dutch saved him he was stealing chickens to survive
Because they’re cared and the others didn’t
@@kingf6766 of course i am
dutch cared did u not hear him before he was not in camera view
You know, after playing RDR2 multiple times, I’ve come to realize that Javier’s demise is one of the most heartbreaking. I know he becomes disrespectful towards Arthur at Beaver Hollow, but I think it’s because he didn’t realize the “turning of the tide” as quickly as Arthur, John, and a couple others did.
Javier is one of the most loyal members of the gang in entire series, and he’s not an idiot like Bill.
You don’t ever see it get showcased, but I’m sure after he goes back to Mexico, he probably took it really hard after realizing things fell apart.
You know, after RDR2, I would love to pay for a new RDR1 remake. If they changed some dialogue, but kept the same graphics and intricate details… I would love it. The narrative changes a lot when we get the perspective of RDR2, and how the gang operated. Javier being captured by John in RDR1 saddens me much more now that I know how RDR2 played out.
Even in thr beaver hollow standoff javier refuses to point his gun at john and arthur, he was just lost
An overlooked death to me atleast is Kieran, he died when he was first beginning to get into the gang comfortably, we died when he was just then becoming apart of the family, just for him to die.
Arthur to John, before the gang completely fell apart: “You’ve gotta run and not look back.”
John to Abigail and Jack, moments before his death: “Keep riding, and don’t look back.”
Goes to show how well RDR1 John was written that they re used multiple of his lines with other characters in RDR2.
I just get the feeling that john was inspired by arthurs words
And in the end, whether willingly or not, neither John nor Jack were able to do that-- to leave the gang or that way of violent life behind them. I never really thought about that until your comment just now :(
@@AspenFireflyGaming Jack may as well be a guard, married, have 3 kids, but also stayed up long at night or was gone somewhere, making his wife concerned, when in fact he was researching where he could find Ross. He didn't want anyone but him. Then he left to his town somewhere in the West States.
There were no gangs up that point or rare. So he was working solo. Or at least that's what I like to think, sooner or later the revenge cycle ends, no one else left to kill. The states are too big, you could have easily disappeared back then if you wanted to. He shot Ross probably just 4-6 years later, right in the middle of the first world war and before the rise of the mobs in the 20s.
And they both die after buying others time to run away
Can we all just take moment to think...A man in his 60's who had lumbago...outlived 50% OF THE GANG
Didn’t you know? Uncle is the ultimate being capable of taking on Shaggy, when he got shot he only took a nap
You know lumbago is just a permanent lower back injury, not a terminal illness... right?
@@wolfeye8923 Idk... I've heard him talk about his lumbago, but I don't recall him using the word "terminal". That would be funny though.
@@wolfeye8923 I'm aware of that... I've had the conversations with him where he mentions lumbago, which btw, is actually not a bad excuse for being lazy since it prevents the ability to do hard labor (no heavy lifting). I just don't recall him ever referring to his lumbago as being terminal. I have an rdr2 game saved in the epilogue, and I'm currently playing thru it again so I'll talk to uncle, see if he says it.... or does he only say "terminal" in rdr1? I haven't played that one since I can't get it on PC.
@@wolfeye8923 Nah he wasn't a coward he had a mission where he bill arthru and Charles fight Cornwalls men and he fought with the rest
He just was getting old and wanted to to end the fighting
It’s a lot more easy to understand when you put them in order thank you
Arthur's death was really crushing. I have never been so emotional from a game in my life. Arthur was a genuine man, staying by his horses side and thanking her for everything ❤️ 😢. Then helping John live, while also warning dutch of Micahs betrayal. Absolutely the most amazing story I have ever seen. Rdr franchise will remain the best in history.
That fact that John was shot to hell by 20 men and still managed to stare them down with the look of a man saying “I won’t die like some dog” is still mind blowing even after 11 years
John was a beast, they needed an army to take him down, and even then, John was the one who chose to die here so Abigail and Jack could live in peace, he probably could have killed all the soldiers if he wanted to.
@@Alex-zd6xh sadly thats not true, there is no way john could have killed them, and he sadly didnt choose to die, he was doomed, he just choose to die with dignity and save what he had left, his family
@@kakikutya7912 I mean, he could've taken cover in the upper floor of the barn and shot through the window
@@jetnebula7915 he could, but then another army would come for him over and over again which could lead to death of abby and jack
@@GeetMonke That's true, but the possibility was there. His sacrifice was out of love, not necessity.
In the end Jack was the one that truly made it thanks to Arthur and John.
He killed Ross and became the one thing he was never supposed to be, an outlaw. John would not have wanted that. Abigail would not have wanted that, no-one wanted that. Jack is now the last living member of what was once Van Der Linde gang, on U.S soil.
@@BloxEzio3 what if jack is the protagonist of rdr3
@@BloxEzio3 well, they all died and were buried in the us. If you account for decomposition, then the van der linde gang is us soil.
@@BloxEzio3 I don't think John cared he became a gunslinger but Abigail definitely did
@@caiminmills2667 I don't think the gonna make the rd3 because at that time the cowboys outlaw was the end
All the members of the gang are relatable and we all know someone like most of them. It's a masterpiece.
5:15 Javier and Charles were the only ones to look back at Lenny other than Arthur. Charles makes sense, seen as Lenny's also black, and Javier, probably because he's still awesome at this point in the game.
Lenny was my favourite non-protagonist character. His death really annoyed me because he was killed in such a non-significant way
me too bro, i rlly liked shaun but he just got shot then buried, it felt so wrong
You expect a character like Lenny to die in a cutscene not during a live mission and right after Hoseas death you don’t expect it at all, it really makes the death sting even mote
Man, I had the reflexes to shoot them but the game wouldn't allow me
@FBI Alypstick didn’t he say that about the Callander boys?
I saved him
Uncle’s death was the most redeeming and sad death for me. He lived his life as a coward and people always made fun of him and looked down on him. Yet in his final moments he chose to stay and help John protect his family. He knew he was dead the second he saw those soldiers and agents riding to their home but he chose to stay this time cuz he knew protecting John’s family was worth it unlike the gang when they split in two and were going mad. Like the joker said from the dark knight how people show their true selves in their final moments before death.
Uncle was lazy and senile. But I will give you that he at least tried to protect John and his family
@Ethan Cusimano Red is native american, has facial scars, and is in a different game universe as stated from Dan Houser himself. nice try though
@Ethan Cusimano we all wish that was true.
There is a theory that Uncle is actually Red Harlow from Red Dead Revolver. The age checks out and he said he used to be called "The one shot kid". Maybe he wasn't as lazy as he let on.
I always liked uncle
“Oh Dutch…. he’s a rat.”
That’s the scene when I started to tear up. Arthur said it in a way as if he was tired of Dutch being so naive and clueless. It just broke me.
You can see that the death of hosea reallyy started it all. The pause then sudden rage in dutchs voice is everything.
I still love the fact that Ross brought an entire army to deal with john cause he knew how dangerous he was
Yep. John was an army unto himself.
Ross knew he was fighting a protagonist. Pulled that dirty cutscene trick.
@@alaljarensi6990 yeah, he killed a bunch of mexican soldiers, one corrupt captain, even a coronel.
@@jacobslater485 Guess plot armor doesn't work in cutscenes
@@alaljarensi6990 He was a one man army.
Damn arthur’s voice in the high honor death is heart wrenching
Low honor is better
To each our own
@@alamo0243 Low honor doesn't fit well though. High honor is way more fitting. High honor he dies and it really hits you in the feels. In low honor he gets stabbed and its like.. is that it? That can't be all..
@@alamo0243 high honor makes u feel better about Arthur’s story
@@user-sd6zz2hm2u that's if you go back for the money. If you have low honor and help john, Micah shoots arthur in the head after their fight on the mountain
I don’t know if any of y’all knew this but between the high honer and low honer endings the song that plays after Arthur’s death have different pitch’s, just goes to show how much detail rockstar put into this game
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I'm a grown ass man still crying every damn time when I watch that scene.
Arthur’s last breath in high honor really had me staring at the screen for a good 15 minutes.. Rdr2 is in my humble opinion one of the greatest free roam games ever made. The storyline, the characters, the journey throughout the map had me invested like nothing before. Hats off to the developers at Rockstar for this masterpiece!!
That's a hell a way to go out. Staring into the sunset of a beautiful mountain in the wilderness. That's how I wanna go.
One of the greatest stories in gaming ever imo
Then you login to RDR online expecting same freedom sandbox fun with even more expanded world, but all you get is shit and garbage. RDR2 single player without story is better western sandbox than online version.
Same thing happened to me. I remember it so clearly. My jaw just completely dropped through the last chapter before the prologues... this game had me so invested it was literally a part of my life 4 to 6 hours a day lol. The creators needs lifetime award. One hell of a couple games man.
I was never a fan of westerns but damn do I love this game!
I think Sean’s death hit me the hardest just because I wasn’t expecting it at all and it set the scene for how the story was going to progress from there. It kinda planted in that seed of hopelessness that grows as you progress through the game…
And it really put in your head "No one is save, everyone can die at any moment, just *BANG*, and they're gone"
And then Micah prods his dead body with his foot.
Yeah Sean’s death bothered me. The main deaths that got to like got to my heart were Sean, Hosea, Lenny, Miss Grumshaw, and Arthurs
@Tranhoang Long Nah, it was Bill that time. Bill's a dumbass and mentioned he'd been drinking with the Grey boys beforehand trying to find a job for the gang to do, made it way too obvious. Arthur should've wasted both of them right then for Sean's death and Micah touching his body with his foot.
he was like the dumb, happy one, it was such a blast in the stomach to see him go. The life of the camp went as well, it wasn’t the same
You showed the finale with Arthurs hat on John.
You sir, did this the right Way
Thank you for spoiling me through the preview image I saw 2 years ago on youtube page! Great job!
One of the saddest deaths for me was Miss Grimshaw. She was so protective of the entire gang and she was the first and only one to say something when Tilly went missing and showed zero mercy to Anthony and insisted he killed her because he kidnapped Tilly. She was a bit strict, but she was mainly doing it to protect the gang. She will always be one of my favorites
right? And no one even seems to care as she's dying, its horrible
Didn't charles sag that he and miss grimshaw buried Arthur?
Say*
@@mootang6236 I’m not sure. There is a lot of different endings to the game depending on what missions you do, how high or low honor you have, and more
@@mootang6236 How would Grimshaw bury Arthur, she dies before he does. Charles said he buried them both.
I think Gavin the missing person would have been on Arthurs side
GAVIN!
GAV!... IN!
GAV? GAVIN!
I'm starting to get worried.....
Yes
It’s crazy Arthur Knew Micah was a snake from the beginning it’s crazy how u can sense someone’s character from the beginning I even knew Dutch was gonna get worse from the beginning and I never played the first one
I’m believe Dutch’s story is a modern parable of changing times. Imagine how many people born right at the cusp of the Industrial Revolution, where they once’s only new farmland and forest, they are now surrounded by cities, technology, and diesel powered machinery. They are literally stuck in time, caught between forsaking everything they new or dying with the past.
Sean's was one of the most jarring deaths I've ever experienced. It's a perfect representation of the life of an outlaw. One minute you're having a casual conversation, and the very next second, kapow, your friend, who had an entire life story, a whole ass person that you've come to know, fucking dead, gone, ended. It's so sudden, and it's so perfect to absolutely lurch the player into a sense of "oh fuck this is real."
Lenny's and Kieran's were both equally the saddest. I was expecting those two to escape the gang, for Kieran to find redemption, for Lenny to escape the life, but again, suddenly, no warning, gone.
What a perfect way to illustrate how easy a story can come to an end.
such an underrated comment
Literally hit the nail on the damn head, surprised this doesn't have more likes
I found Sean’s and Lenny’s deaths to be the most realistic, no drama no lead up just BANG dead.
this is what all of the idiots who want war need to understand, I've lost a lot of armenian friends during kharabakh war, some of them are the people i grew up with, went to the same school. now they're 6 feet under and I never had the chance to visit their grave. we had history together and I'm left with regrets that I didn't have a chance to share their faith, couldn't support them while they were alive except sending money for cigarettes. all of them were young and perspective, some even wrote books, made music, art, now they're gone. Sorry I got emotional and into details but I don't have anybody to speak up to, at least you seem to understand how scary death is
Yeah I put my controller down instantly, that’s how traumatized i was
Red Dead 2 is the first game I’ve ever felt like I was apart of a family in a game, seeing them go one by one was actually painful
rdr2 makes no sense its an asspullof a story that barely conncts to the first. good game but terribly written. 8 years of development and they didnt even look atrdr1 a single time for story continuation.
@@deathrager2404 tweaking bro
@@deathrager2404 did you play the epilogue?
@@bananamix1896 john in rdr1:
'' a robbery went bad, they left me for dead and i left them.havent seen any of the gang since!!''
ending of rdr2 is debunked with just this statement, the whole epilogue is debunked with just this statement. stop being that fanboy in denial dude.
@@deathrager2404 he just tries to block those memories out
John Marston's Death always made me tear up, I loved RDR1 so much when I was younger that the first time I finished the game I couldn't believe it and teared up
Imagine u haven't play any of the games and u just saw the thumbnail 💀
The most disturbing moment in both games has to be Kieran's death. Damn I wasn't expecting that.
fr, like first time i played i was like "W.T.A.F" as soon as i just saw kieran just riding into shady belle with his head chopped clean off
@@lol-pb2jv I didn't understand what was going on until it showed Kieran. When Mary-Beth screamed I was like "Jesus, why you screamin-WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THAT"
Yea that scene caught me off guard ngl 😂
I have never whole heartedly screamed what the fuck is that at the top of my lungs at a video game till that point
I legit almost passed out at that scene lol
The sad part in RDR2 is that you can see everyone that would side with Arthur at the end were killed along the story, which created the final finale stand-off.
I don’t no why I Javier didn’t side with Arthur they were always close
@@blossom10799 Javier was more loyal to Dutch than he was to Arthur
@@blossom10799
You notice it more if you go into later chapters after Saint Denis that Javier actually starts to become more distant from Arthur and more close to Micah.
Just spend time around the camp and you’ll see them together talking and they’ll even ask Arthur to move on and let them talk.
What about Sadie though, think you missed that one. She became much closer to Arthur at the end, and said he was the best man she knew since her husband. And then also, Charles.
@@genox3636 they weren't in the camp, so they don't count
Uncle in 1899: “I have lumbago it’s VERY serious I could die!”
Uncle outliving 95% of the gang in 1911
Dutch’s quote as he died was probably the saddest after playing red dead redemption 2. It made me cry more than Arthur’s death 😢😢😢
"I've got a plan John" "you've always got a plan Dutch"
This is a good one
We just need some money
Have some goddamn faith
@@bigby9797 *SmOKe*
jUsT ONE MOrE ScoRE
And after all this, there's still one "member" of the gang left, Jack.
yeah
Charles sadie karen mary tilly are probably still around
@@wuskraken6187 Karen’s likely dead, according to Mary-Beth
@@nickynicky009 probably dead by 1914
@@nickynicky009 he died 20 years of starvation
One of my top 3 characters in RDR series is Lenny.I liked him from chapter 1 where he helped them to rob the train,and his "best friend" kind of friendship with Arthur and his hate for Micah.When I played and he died i stopped the game and cried for about 20 minutes.His death was so dark,no music,cutscene or anything.For me Lenny will be my favourite character of all time and one of the most underrated in whole RDR series.
Seans death felt so sudden, one shot to the head and immediately the whole town was into a gun fight, micah came in clutch aswell.
It actually hurt when Sean died,because he was such a lovable character,but then again,most of them are loved characters
he died so abruptly
He was my fav..loved his accent
when this happened i wouldn't leave, i just kept killin folks til none were left, i was like, "NOOOOO Sean, NOOOOO, die you bastards!!!!"
He was my favourite with his irish accent 😭
Cough cough TRUE
It was smart of Ross to bring an army. He seemed to know the power of deadeye
and the power of a cutscene lol. In a normal gunfight, i bet John could take out 2 armies like that using deadeye lol.
@@jakenguyen1150 Provided he could find a gun with enough ammo loaded into it
The way they made Kierans body come back gives me chills... That was insane..
Good work
Arthur’s death is one of the most emotional scenes in gaming history
The only time a video game has made me cry like a baby. 😭
It really is... the depth of this game and how it captured the players. I was so sucked into this game when it first came out. Its funny, sad, serious, bloody, terrifying. I mean I have never played any game like Rdr1 and Rdr2. Those 2 games need a lifetime award.
You should play The Last of Us series
@@BeF1990 if you're talking about our favorite guy's death (not tryna throw any spoilers) he died in a miserable way, watching that actually hurt me so much but arthurs death was built up almost perfectly, and the "i gave you all I had".. i mean it's just my opinion you don't have to accept it but for me arthurs death hit harder than the man we're talking about
@@BeF1990 Last of us 2 was complete garbage, don't even compare that pile of filth to this masterpiece.
It's funny how Dutch always had a plan and his last one finally worked out for him
He's gone to the tahiti in the sky.
@@chimaera2611 in hell
@@Lost20048 what about the shooting of Micah
John's death in my opinion is much sadder than Arthur's because Arthur's death was expected and we had time to say goodbye to the character but with John when RDR1 came out there was no way of knowing that John was going and was so fast and unexpected and John held up his end of the bargain with Ross and his men but yet he was double crossed and eventually killed just because Ross wanted to take all the credit for being the one to end the Van Der Linde once and for all
I like the fact that he use "Arthur" instead of "Arthur (High Honor)"
What
When you thought that the low honor ending makes more sense
Arthur's high honor death should be the canonical one. Just makes more sense.
@@matthewallen445 it should be but I think Micah would’ve killed Arthur instead of leaving. The high honor return for the money makes more sense. And it would be better if Arthur told John something different.
@@noahherrera5214 I think high honor hear makes more sense since he was determined to save johns family at the end of the game also like the helping indian missions charles and arthur didn't want any of the money cause there was too much blood on it
Kieran’s death sent some chills down my spine. Especially cause he was one of my favorites
And not because he WAS HOLDING HIS HEAD ON A HORSE!!!!!
Edit: Thanks all of you for the Likes!
@@MrHippo237 maybe he lived he still had his head after all
Sad thing is i started like and trust him until he disappeared then I thought he was gonna betray me but no he was murdered.
Bruh I think they censored it in the German version. I wondered why he didn't hold his head
@@warpitexis2341 yeah in the American version his mutilated head is held in his hands by his lap
He even did the sigh that’s in two parts, the money, and the Cliff
I just noticed that Arthur gets a slight smile on his face in the high honor ending when Dutch walks away from Micah
Your not going to lie to me all of us when we got to the last part with Arthur we break the button trying to reach that damn revolver
Yeah
I grinded that button to dust
True
I literally turned off the console and tried it again...
OH YES FUCKING YES
I know the low honor ending is bad, but the line, “you let him damn us all” is just amazing
Yeah I know. The low honor is the most heart wrenching. Kind of like the marstons death in the first one.
That line should have been in every ending.
His whole low honor speech kills me i played that one my first playthrough not even colm is what got me his voice cracks everything these games are unrivaled
Hearing the pain and anguish in Hosea's voice when he gets shot just makes my heart sank😢
Hosea was definitely about to have a Rick Grimes “we can all survive this” speech if Milton didn’t kill him. He didn’t expect to die that sudden and in that position. But all he ever wanted was Dutch and the gang to be safe. You can at least tell he was still gonna stand his and the gangs ground with death staring at him
So happy for Sadie, Charles , Mery Beth , Karen , Tilly , Trewlany , Reverend and Pearson. They survived somehow seems so good.
Karen drank herself to death shortly after she left.
I Imagine if Sadie got her DLC she woulda been killed in that you know how it goes With RDR characters rockstar likes to kill em off
@@wolfder6661 She was a hot woman so she would have gotten way worse than killed.
@@White_Wrath she was a damn fine women as Arthur would tell you that I can agree but rockstar have a hardon for killing their characters they get to the development finalization for the story ending the whole table are at full mass of the the thought of killing off another MC
@@wolfder6661 She was overhyped af especially since she was just some random farmers widow
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The way Dutch scream "Oh god, no." Always hit me really hard for some reason. The thing about Lenny's death is its meant to be quick, the game won't give you time to process it. No flashy cut scene, no dramatic way out. Just quick.
The way Dutch just sounds so heartbroken but you know you have to keep going.
I tried so hard to save Lenny, soon as I saw those guys I activated dead eye because I thought there might be a chance
@@KingTruffles I restarted the checkpoint three times in effort to save Lenny, he was my favorite character and he was just dead. In an instant, ive never had a game make me have such an unhealthy and bizzare attachment to the characters. I sat there for 15 minutes trying to save Lenny over and over crying. As if he was a real person and I was just grieving in denial
Dutch: OH GOD NO! anyways...
His death reminds me of the death of Captain André Matias, from the Brazilian movie Tropa de Elite: O Inimigo Agora É Outro (2011). The guy got shot in the back and that was it. No flashy cuts, no dramatic moments, just pure and plain simplicity, which makes it even more tragic.
Ok cowpoke
the music during arthur death hits hard
I think uncles death affected jack the same or close to his parent because when the other people died he was a kid and didn’t remember but now he’s older uncles death and his parents took a bigger toll on him which led to him becoming a gun slinger to revenge them
Funny how you included Ross at the end even though he’s not a gang member, just for pleasure’s sake. If he wasn’t here, I sure as hell would’ve searched for a Jack’s revenge video after this.
Fun Fact, the first time we "meet" Ross it's when Arthur goes fishing with Jack, Ross dies to Jack near a river when fishing
@@bruschetta7711 Ross was Duck hunting. But what is a duck but a flying fish
@@derekmensch3601 not sure a duck is a flying fish but let's say it is so it's a cooler end
@@SharkJ002 man as far as Im concerned that piece of shit died thinking he was fishing lmao
I'd pay full money if they create an alternate universe story where Arthur just killed ross and milton at the river.
So, we all agree Arthur’s low honor death is non-canon? Yeah? Okay. Cool.
I was playing RDR2 since year and half and first time I saw his low honour death.
No thats his death if you go back for the money, the honour changes if micah finishesh you off or lets you bleedout
It also changes the the cutscene you get after arthurs death, (Wolf = Low, Deer = High)
@@TriMs1 which death would you prefer M?
@@TriMs1 ah okay. i knew the wolf/deer part, but i’ve never chosen to go for the money so i didn’t know the other part
@@TriMs1 so it’s not canon then.
The way sean's words get cut off by a sniper shot and brain matter scattering on the grounds is both cinematic and brutal
And that's the waaayyy it goes folks