Pro Tour Magic Origins Finals: Mike Sigrist vs. Joel Larsson
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- It all came down to this: Mike Sigrist (Blue-Red Ensoul Artifact) versus Joel Larsson (Red Aggro) for the title. Sigrist already claimed Player of the Year, but Larsson was angling for a spot in the World Championship as well. Who will come away with the trophy? Watch to find out.
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I'm really glad their hands are mic'd so i can hear it every single time they flick their cards.
GoldfishXtraCheddar ASMR?... :v
+GoldfishXtraCheddar Same, once you start flickering, you can't live without it. ;-)
(btw. I know your comment was sarcastic, it's just fun to pretend that it wasn't and act oblivious ^^).
+GoldfishXtraCheddar
I thought one of mod's was crunching on a big old sandwich, each time another was one was talking.
Was that sarcastic
It's really nice to see that bit of playful comedy on the side of the defeated in the end.
Great to see people at the top of their game still being good sportsmen.
I remember watching this live screaming at the t.v "Keep the 6!!! Keep the 6!!!" My heart sank when he mulled to 3. This deck had been special to me because I had played a version of it for while. I was so hyped to see it in the finals.
...he shoulda kept the 6.
It'd be great if you put time tags for each match
How to lose an MTG Pro Tour: Mulligan to 3
DavidTu93 Bet he wishes he kept that 6
That desicion was beyond stupid. With a type of deck he's going against. He should've trust his deck and stop at 6 or 5. I bet he's using that mulligan to 3 as the excuse for his lost. It was his fault that he lost not the mulligan.
The hand of 6 with Temple was a keep. That's 2 Scry triggers because of the rule.
Jace Belerin agreed, his 7 or 6 card hand looked great. cant believe he mulled so deep.
Jace Belerin says the pro tour finalist. Rain your opinion upon us oh great one.
I hate this sort of elitist attitude people have with Magic, where the only decks that aren't 'garbage' are basically control. So what if mono red is simpler in some ways to control? It doesn't make it 'stupid' or 'garbage'. It's a strategy game, sure, but people forget that part of strategy is using the most effective one. And like it or not, mono red is effective. It's fast and furious and if the other player unprepared to deal with it, it wins games. Stop looking your nose down at people who don't play super complicated decks. You aren't better than mono red players, you aren't smarter, you just play different decks and have different play styles. Get over it.
It is going to be the same way no matter what deck you play even playing control gets you the same reactions.
I know that, and I would be lying if I said I've never gotten frustrated at control or burn decks but it just seems that red gets the worst of it. But I get what you're saying though
SharpCookies I'm more aggravated that wizards just keeps making red stronger. It doesn't diversify the format at all. I just don't wanna play against the same deck over and over again.
SharpCookies Amen to that.
TheChhaam meeee too. Especially with exquisite firecraft. Blue is shitty enough right now in standard.
When I first started playing Magic 2 years ago I had no idea what I was doing, what to play, anything really. I just knew I loved the game and would watch videos all the time.
When I came across Joel Larsson in the finals of Pro Tour Gatecrash against Tom Martell and saw the deck he was playing, UWR quickly became my favorite color combination, and Joel Larsson my favorite player. This guy really ignited my love for the game.
When I watched him raise that trophy I was proud, as if I was one of those team members in the background!
Congratulations, Joel. You've certainly earned it!
Salvatore Tummolillo swedish magic is proud
Congrats Joel! Thanks to all the support staff that made today fun to watch and experience too. First class operations team.
Who’s joe
Sweden: Handsome, fit gentlemen
America: Well, American
_i couldnt help myself_
Brutal but not even wrong
Should Title: "Pro Tour Magic Origins Finals"
Eliminates Spoilers
Yeah you can see who wins ahead of time in the video list. Its saddened me since I was rooting for the Izzet player. :(
Also, don't show a thumbnail of the finalists either
Bible Thump Ive been saying that for years. They can tag the videos for searching the names or leave them in the description. They are to stupid to do so.
Bible Thump Agreed, i tried my best not to see the names as i was looking for the quarterfinals. I saw Mike, so i knew one of them unfortunately :l
They could at least change the tilte to "FINALS: pro tour magic origins, and then the names". If they insist on adding them. At least that way we stand a chance of not knowing the outcome of the quarterfinals we are actually looking for
Lets face it these people know nothing about creating media. The fact that they have not figured out how to display cards properly when filming drafts is just annoying. Why do they not just display the cards after? They do for some of the other drafters. Watching their live filming while drafting is just bad.
The way they hold there cards and shuffle them makes me wanna break there fingers
I might be the only one, but these videos are sooo frustrating! They need to show each card that is played, so I know what the hell is going on.
Watching the Pro Tour is more suited to experienced players. If you need someone to hold your hand and explain each thing to you, don't watch. They can't explain every little thing that happens, sometimes just because how fast things can go, or the time it takes to bring up cards on the display, because they do this live. Players who have been playing a lot, and know the cards in the format and the decks being played, don't need to have everything explained and can figure out what's going on by watching. Plus, there's a transcript of the entire match somewhere you can look up.
What a dick response. Imagine any other event where commentators took your view. No one who didn't play football wouldn't be able to watch, etc. Yes, these videos are more targeted to advanced players but that doesn't mean they can't make it more accessible to appeal to new players. MTG elitists are so unbearable.
Yeah I'm gonna have to agree with the other guy. When I first started watching Pro Tours it was tough for me to follow what was going on and I though the players were going too fast. Then after a few weeks of playing and getting comfortable with the game I started finding myself more capable of keeping up. It's true, if you're a pro then it's just easier for you to play your turn quickly since you've already got your turns figured out.
Football is far easier to wach because the game doesnt change like magic. The rules are much simplier and there are not hundreds of pieces. Magic is always changing and it would just take forever to stop and explain every rule, card or action. Plus you would have to tell the pros who are used to playing the game at a certain speed and force them to play really slow. They would all be super annoyed.
Even football commentators though though dont explain what a first down or a touchdown is, or why the team is kicking a field goal. People just know the rules, and if you want to watch magic, it is impossible without knowing the cards, and commentators cant explain and go through hundereds of cards to let people who dont play watch.
Very proud of Sigrist, great performance and excellent sportsmanship? Really deserving of Player of the Year, I mean seriously, could you guys imagine Efro handling game 5 as well as Siggy did?
Too bad that Sigrist had to mulligan to 3 on that last round because besides that, it was a really good match.
I love how Larsson managed to win that 4th round. That was amazing.
Good game to both of the players!
Everyone complaining about red being brainless. Tell me, how was the standard meta before this, where most commonly the best decks involved slamming down siege rhinos, was so much more skill intensive? Go on, I'll wait.
Which meta with siege rhino you are talking about? So many different style of decks than runs siege fuckface. If you are talking about abzan aggro decks, it still requires more skill to play them than red decks. and abzan control also requires more skill to play than a red deck. Running 3 colored decks is not so simple in a tight situation. Playing the right lands every turn is also a factor. While in the case of a red deck, you only care about land numbers and slamming 1 to 2 drops every turn and force your opponent to have an answer. I hate red decks but I understand the use for it cause it's very effective at doing its job. That's why I have a crapload of sideboard to stop red decks when I was still playing magic. The hate for red decks should be understandable among experienced magic players. Cause along the line you have been dropped many times by a red deck cause you didn't draw the right lands or just didn't stablelize fast enough.
That's part of the problem though, isn't it? It was such a stupidly good creature that you could play multiple ways to get to the same ending. Abzan aggro, play several stupidly efficient creatures with no drawbacks and run over your opponent. Abzan control, play more removal and thoughtseize away your opponents most dangerous cards, and then play stupidly efficient creatures and run your opponent over. Playing the right lands? Between caryatid providing mana and being difficult to remove, courser gaining life whenever you played a land and letting you pay lands from the top of your deck, and the auto lightning helix from rhino, that was barely an issue. So I fail to see how it's a 'smarter' deck. What's not smart about playing a deck that has redundancy and that punishes opponents when they stumble on lands or try to durdle for several turns? Without fast aggressive decks, games would take forever. And who wants that?
Which is still more things to do than a straightforward red deck. That's the point here. Just because people call red deck is stupid or hate it doesn't mean it should stop.
Yeah, you have more to do, but it's just stalling until you drop your big creatures and start swinging. I'd rather be aggressive from the start and force my opponent to answer me or lose.
HyperShadow89 People complain because they want to durdle around and call anything efficient like Red decks "brainless." Either learn to beat it or cry more.
I quite enjoyed watching this tournament. Draft was the most fun. Good job to all involved.
Note: Please do something about all the card flicking noises.
On Eidelon of the Great Revel, I like the Roman quote reference in the oracle text: “Nero fiddled while Rome burned”
I like how fast they play the game
i have been looking for so damn long................ where can i find the large six sided dice that they use. i have been looking for well over a week
I'm going. To worlds to hangout and play some main is there a set time I should get there ?
Mike what a player. That las quote " target me" mvp for sure
(Santi) Real funny decks! I´m a UR Ensoul Artifact fan.
Was this at GenCon? I was wondering why I didn't see the big dogs playing. Seems they were in a room by themselves.
I'm new two magic how did he when game one with exquisite firecraft?
Can someone give me a link to find location times and dates for the world championship
21:00 The pro plays :D
And you called it.
Anyone knows Which are the selvas of Joel larssonn??
At 22:34 why did the judge remove the +1/+1 from the Hangarback Walker when Mike Sigrist tried to use Hangarback's tap ability?
+Blanccosvn Larsson was contemplating whether or not to do something in response, so the ability was still waiting on the stack.
ahh gotta love the exciting last games where its 7vs3 cards. The skills!
one of the main flip flop with control decks seams to have winter orb and/or root maze, exspecially in a tap down deck.
Do they actually memorise all of these thousands of cards? they must be genious.
Geezus, round 5 was brutal
God I love these pokemon tournaments
Still dont understand why Red Aggro plays Wild Slash over Fiery Impulse. What creature has power more than 4?
K$ fiery impulse doesn't hit players.
the sleeves?
Mike handled that game 5 well. I'm impressed. not easy to keep your humor when that happens, certainly not in the finals.
***** Much respect to the "Shrapnel Blast to kill myself".
I wonder how this red aggro would fair against our red aggro now
Nice!
the 1st match is like: wait, what happened here? it was so fast!
Anyone knows the sleeves Joel uses????
loambb yea. They're called 'flick-master pros', custom made by NASA for maximum flicking sound and optimized frantic hand shuffling.
At about [19:40] Mike Sigrist plays Hangarback Walker, anybody knows why it does't trigger Eidolon? He does not take 2 points of damage!
so in competitive play,in few cases it's legal that, if you miss your trigger then it's not your opponents job to remind you because sure it benefits your opponent but the missed trigger is about damaging the life total and not the board state. If something is supposed to affect the board state then that is a more of a gray area. and there are reasons that a judge needs to be called or you do have to remind your opponent. Like for instance if there is an enchantment or emblem that says you lose 2 life for every card drawn you can't just refuse to draw cards on your draw step.
The card flicking throughout the match from Larson = autowin.
Jacob Max Nadeau right? I want to see a parody video of two pros squaring off in a card flicking match.
Jacob Max Nadeau Larsson*
Jacob Max Nadeau
Look, pros can do whatever they want, i don't care. But when I'm playing FNM in some shithole card shop against a random dude who is the epitome of a casual player and the fucker is flicking his cards nonstop like he's intensely playing for $10k, I make a point of calmly setting my cards down in the middle of my turn, looking him dead in the eye, and asking if flick-shuffling his hand increases his chance of winning -.-
+robertwalters Clearly you've learned nothing from these broadcasts. The card flicking sound is anecdotally proven to lure the correct spells out of your deck. Also chicks dig it.
Yeaaaaah! Go Joel! In my hometown too!
what are they writing and why can they scry at the beginning?
Didn't remember them writing, but usually they're keeping track of life totals or tracking enemies cards in hand if they use discard to see their hand. Scry is a new rule recently introduced where if you mulligan, you get a free scry before the game starts.
Yay, a couple of decks that can win regardless of skill. Five out of the top eight were either mono-red or red-blue ensoul. Mono red won last PT too. Can't wait to play against a bunch of this garbage at FNM.
plaz7374 I'm feeling the same way, man. Expect lots of unskillful decks at Game Day :/
plaz7374 I think it's kind of unfair to say that it's just those kinds of decks. In my experience the meta-game, in general, regardless of what kind of card game you play, never requires a lot of skill.
Hell, a couple of months ago everyone was playing Abzan. Now that may not have been as fast paced as the kinds of decks we saw this time around, but it was still fairly easy to play, in my opinion.
I was a little hasty with my comment, and really any mtg deck requires some thought at the very least. I think I'm just tired of seeing mono red :P
And I don't really like the Izzet Artifacts deck despite it's power.
You're right about Abzan. However, the only real mindless card in Abzan is rhino.
plaz7374 Pilot one of them and go win a Pro Tour, then.
***** I can see where you're coming from. I myself never really like the meta, and I usually try to avoid it any way I can, no matter what type of deck is at the top, at the moment.
But I'm a player who really likes fast-paced decks (I'm way too impatient to play control XD) so this was the first time where I actually enjoyed going with the crowd.
But when Battle for Zendikar releases, who knows what kind of meta will hit us next.
i met one of the guys holding the check at a grand prix in phoenix holy hell
in game 3 why does Mike not block the swiftspear with ornathopter the first time, since all the spells he could play are just burn that would kill the thopter anyway and do more damage by just killing it before attacking. Except for lightning strike i guess joel would do 1 more point of damage by dealing it to mikes face after a block instead of killing and then attacking. But thats the only card and in that worst case scenario you take 1 more damage, while if he doesnt have it, u take 1 damage for no reason by not blocking. seems the obvious statistical play is to block that first time.
why did sigris scry on turn 0 in game 4?
Never doubt the burn.
I'm surprised that the Abzan rally/collected company decks didn't do better those decks are frickin amazing especially against mono red.
Planeswalker123 abzan rally is one of mono red's best matchups
why are they shuffling cards in hand so much O.o
I didn't recognize LSV with the beard...
Ecstatic Joel took the win, good to see an aggro-off.
as someone who plays mono red i find this match highly entertaining... and the salt in the comments makes it even better
That was just painful to watch
***** could be called suicide even
I practically committed suicide because of origins
+CommanderSh!mi X I hope you are kidding...and I want you to know that Jesus Christ loves you and died for you and you are important to him. may God bless you
+Justin Nave oh no, if i was gonna choose what to commit suicide over then it would be about family issues, I do hate origins alot because of reprinting a few usless cards.
CommanderSh!mi X well don't think about suicide bro. You are way too important
Is it me or have there been a few missed eidolon triggers here
Simon Davidsson
I seem to remember 2. One the commentators picked up on and a Shrapnel Blast later
ScrapperTBP The Shrapnel Blast was not end of turn, it was in response to Eidolon.
ScrapperTBP I see at least 2. Hangarback in game 2 or 3, shrapnel in game 4.
+stev019 I'm extremely late, but hangarback has a cmc of zero, making it not trigger eidolon
bcnesbit Zero isn't CMC "Three or less"?
nice vid they shut juse top table camera so you can see the cards on the table
Does Mike Sigrist have a phobia of microphones?
Joel Larsson reminds me of a cross between Liam Hemsworth and Christian Slater.
These guys tap their shit so fucking fast. Like holy fucking shit.
Noob here. Can someone tell me why Larsson couldn't respond to the Ensoul Artifact in the third game?
Cause ensoul got enchanted on an artifact and not an artifact creature. Meaning no creature target in response.
Thanks for the helpful responses!
DJModulo Smash to Smithereens will be sideboarded by Red Aggro this Friday.
I don't understand the game but I still enjoy watching it
Game is very deep and worth learning. MTGO is a good way to learn the rules, but it takes some patience to get used to it.
That obnoxious hand shuffling that they constantly do is so annoying.
I'm assuming you're new to magic?
CommanderAuk Yes and no I played as a kid and got back into it a couple years and I understand while playing an intense game you have a lot of energy and anxiety and the shuffling and little ticks people do is to help relieve that energy. I also know people think (and for some people it actually does a bit) it helps you more easily remember/notice every card in your hand. For me it may or may not help me remember/notice every card in my hand slightly however it also distracts me from the game and I have seen a negative impact from it.
I wish the unhinged card stop that was a normal card.
+The peace maker I wish what?
iphone30000 unhinged is a joke set of magic cards and there is a card called "stop seethat" where whenever someone "flicks" the cards you say gotcha and they have to discard a card.
The peace maker
Oh lol
Marshall and Ian look similar enough that Efro should sit between them to break up the monotony.
So glad there aren't any former criminals in this video, I might have felt uncomfortable watching it...
If only this was the finals feature Joel Larrson vs. Tom Martell.
Best card in the game is basic mountain. I love that a red deck closed out the tournament. Good job.
Congrats Joel and dang you guys are beast! Rdw rdw rdw. :)
why couldn't he burn the creature in response to the other guy playing ensoul artifact? wouldn't that just cause ensoul artifact to fizzle out?
He was playing ensoul onto a noncreature artifact... Not a valid target to bolt in response.
Omg i've been so invested in this deck, I KNEW hangarback would give it the push it needed. WOOO
Master of Waves trending up in $$$
on g3 playing ensoul on ghostfire blade rather than on ornithopter when joel was tapped out was a HUGE mistake. that would have granted sigrist 5 unblockable damages each turn. playing it on the blade just gave larrson the chance to chump everytime
What's with the incessant shuffling in hand? ADD much?
Mike is going to regret not keeping that 6 hand for a long long time, it's rare if ever anyone gets a chance at one game away from winning a Pro Tour, he had a serious shot at it if he kept the 6 hand, but he mulled, bad 5, bad 4...3....loss....
The instinct to be results oriented is strong but that's how you become a worse player. Obviously in hindsight Mike would keep the 6 knowing what his 5, 4, and 3 were going to be. But if you let him do the match over he would probably still mulligan that 6. Because you still have to evaluate if your 6 card hand which does nothing is better than the average 5 card hand, which could easily have ornithopter ensoul and just win. Either way Joel was the best player in this match, he already had a previous top 8 and finals appearance. But Sigrist is a great player and wouldn't have kept the 6 on pure superstition if you gave him the chance to redo it. That doesn't mean he doesn't regret that his choices led him to lose the pro tour
Joel Had lethal the turn before G5. Play swift spear, swing, Searing/ Impulse the Citadel to trigger prowess, swing.
Sigrist's mulligans were painful though. The guy just couldn't get a hand with a proper amount of lands in it.
***** the six was a close decision at best, the hand was far from fine (it doesn't actually do anything)
pdrohberg better than 3 fucking cards
Sword of the Morning you don't mulligan from 6 directly to 3, you have to figure out if it's better or worse than an average 5 card hand. The fact that your 5 and 4 hands end up sucking as well is unfortunate, but has nothing to do with the decision of mulliganing the 6.
he got greedy dude
+pdrohberg a Temple and the Scry rule is good enough for keeping the 6. He has 2 Scry triggers
Red aggro for the win!
Appelcaster Some people call it mono red, some call it mono skill. Get there!
Mono red can be beaten. Lots of black decks are REALLY strong with stuff like BB to board clear. If everyone runs mono red aggro at your local FNM, then bring a deck to counter it, and stop complaining. I'm a Jeskai Tempo player, and I haven't changed since KoT. I don't even care about the meta, i love Mantis Rider too much to give it up haha
I'm the same in our local tournaments when j was still playing. I played USA control cause no one else was running it. With all the burn I got I thought I got an edge over mono red but still no. I still got bad hands and wrong land colors sometimes. So I side board 4 circle the flame and 3 nyx sheep for mono reds around that time. ....turn 2 circle of asshole was always my favorite part. The look in their face when that happens is always priceless. you can burn me for days bro, I can deal with that easily lol
Sigrist got just a wee bit too excited game 4 with that shrapnel blast to the dome which could have been played in response to eidolon entering the field, and then another 2 damage laying the chief before killing the chump eidolon. hard to avoid that with the rollercoaster ride he had
how many times are you allowed to re shuffle jesus
why didn't Sigrist shrapnel blast Larsson sacrificing his thopter token rather than killing Larsson's Zurgo...this was in 13:16 of the video, Larsson was tapped out and on four life, i've been over this multiple times in my head but i cant find a reason why i was the only person to notice this.
Jackson Curtis The card he had was actually Seismic Rupture; it was mistakenly entered as Shrapnel Blast.
oof... that last game though,...
soooo whats going on here??
if eidolon of the great revel said whenever an opponent (instead of a player) casts a spell with converted mana cost 3 or less, it does 2 damage to that opponent, it would be BROKEN
Can these guys stop shuffling their hands thirty times every turn... jeez.
when sharpnel blast saids you have to sacrifice an artifact why dident he
if you are talking about 13:52 they said there was an error and that the card was actually seismic rupture, otherwise why wouldn't he just aim it at his opponent, he was already at 4 life.
Why do people hate mono red? I'm sorry you chose to play three colors and you have to "choose which lands to play carefully." I mean any type of Andaman deck has the turn 4 think for the win unless you play a counter. I mean abzan control is the closest thing to control in the current meta. A aggro deck was going to win.
Someone needs to invent some type of "Tech Mat" that shows via holograms all of your creatures and battles happen!! Magic LVL OVER 9000!!!
Its called a computer screen
Target Me such grace
Go red! Congrats, Joel!
I am surprised by Sigrists maindeck choice. I would've used Renowned Weaponsmiths and Scuttled Doom Engines. He could still keep his ornithopters, hangarback walkers, counters, shrapnel blasts. The Weaponsmiths would've forced Larrson to use a fire spell on. Plus Larrson's creatures have power 2 or less on Sigrists turn which gave him open 6 damage then Shrapnel Blast for 11 more. 17 damage in one turn. Still boggled. I have 2 decks to bring Friday to destroy these hopeful Fire Mages that spent their allowance on these red cards.
wallywonks99 also prefer Chief Engineer over Chief of Foundry. I'd rather use the Hangarback Thopters to cast the Doom Engine.
He shouldve shuffled properly. He kept on doing the same shuffle, even his opponent. So it was expected to hve the same card draws...
8:59 why did he get to do that? He didn't even play a scry land.
Daytimerocker a new mulligan rule got tested at the pro tour. Every player who mulliganed at least once gets to scry 1 after they finally keep a hand.
Im not sure if im in favor of that idea. but thanks for telling me.
Mulligatawny? No Soup For You!
Magic was a completely different game. Just look how people talk to each other.
I always wonder how a guy like Froehlich can be so succesful, yet think jace is horrible and Nissa is extremly bad when he looks at the Spoilers for a set.
i feal like the control decks can taste elemental pyroblast
Lsv and his puns.. ohhh youu
What if the maker of this card game makes IT for ps4 and ps5 i would buy IT for sure its nog for ps4 onley pc
How much does Eric Froehlich love to talk about himself at every given opportunity?!