Dr. Who fans are some of the nicest and most passionate people I’ve met, and like many other fanbases, they didn’t deserve to have their franchise ruined by idiots.
That whole BS about the MALE Doctor not being able to let go of power drives me nuts!! Have they already forgotten how Doctor Donna begged, pleaded and cried for the Doctor NOT to take her power away from her...even though she knew it would kill her!
Exactly! Like what is with them and bashing on men?! The Doctor has made many sacrifices before. Did they think that he wouldn't do that because he was MALE?! God, way to ruin Donna.
Agreed! Also with the stupid timeless children if the doctor has unlimited regeneration then donna is safe from death anyway. Cuz the doctor can just heal her with regeneration energy. it's just so stupid!
It was a gratingly stupid line for sure, for so many reasons. That said I don't think your example is the best; I'm pretty sure Donna was begging to keep her memories of her time with the doctor, and her friendship with him. He was taking away so much more than just her newfound power
You two never watched the show because it’s always been progressive i mean there is a literall video titled doctor who being political for 1 hour and it has been woke since it was created but you never wachted the show so please watch the video I mentioned and then you think maybe I was wrong I guess it has been woke since it started to get a life and be quiet ok thank you
@@Batmanvideos84789 hey, i also think that DW has always been progressive. But also agree with what the guy in the video said... i feel sad watching doctor who because i miss the 'Big Brain' moments where i had to pause the episode to try and understand all the wibly wobly stuff. Since Capaldi left i never felt that way again. since i've started watching i noticed it's weird only having a white male protagonist, i was so happy hearing about jodie coming in and thought "finally not a male doctor"... but i was expecting the show to continue beeing all crazy and stories conected and i having to really use my brain to undestand an episode. i wish the writers and directors could have continued the amazing story... but now it feels like i DONT have to use my brain to understand an episode... i love the fact that we finally had a female doctor and a black doctor now, i wish we keep having all kinds of people as the Doctor, because that is what the Doctor is. but i want good stories. they don't have to have a story beeing about gender equality to let people know about gender equality. i've learn so much watching doctor who, now it feels just like a repeat of what is happening in the world, episodes have no connection and story have huge holes in it... im sad for Jodie and Ncuti, both great people and great actors, but they got to be the Doctor when the writers are lazy...
As I recall from studying *real* history, governments that sought to rewrite history to suit their needs weren't exactly the most peaceful idealistic societies.
One of my all time favourite moments in all of Doctor Who was Jo Grant's departure. She announces she's getting married and although the Doctor acts happy for her you can tell he is devasted that the woman that kept him company through his years of being trapped on earth is leaving him. As everyone pours drinks to celebrate the Doctor silently drinks his and leaves the party while no one is looking (He didn't notice that Jo saw him). Then the Doctor, an ageless alien, drives away on his own. Calling scenes like that baggage is fucking insulting
Don't hate. When all things fail, and they always do with activists, they still take comfort in having ruined it for you and making you hate. Drinking fanboy tears, remember? Laugh at their failure. Ridicule their insanity. And above all don't watch their garbage. Just watch the Disparu reviews and others instead. Constantly remind them of their failure and how they are what they claim to fight and hate. THE BAD PEOPLE FROM GERMANY! As for the show, I think I can still stomach it up to season 9 of the new series. Never saw seasons 10 and beyond and I think I will keep it that way. AFAIC Capaldi is still the Doctor, a madman in his blue box, and this just corporate hate fiction made by bitter tumblristas.
@@Rusty84CVI'm pretty sure you didn't read his comment. He's actually being pretty logical on how to approach these dumpster fires. The people ruining these shows aren't the ones watching them. They just enjoy seeing others sad and angry. So by not giving them the satisfaction, you deprive them of it. So no, he's not part of the problem. Dummies that control their emotions or think logically are. You know, dummies like you.
The Doctor being a slightly insufferable know-it-all is precisely why we loved him, among a myriad of other traits. I will personally never forget how David Tennant brought us the most compelling expression of "righteous anger" I think I'll ever see in my life. To be a lonely, wounded, god, filled with the rage of centuries pouring it out on the darkest of foes...it was just all so brilliant. RIP Dr. Who.
I personally loved how Matt Smith could almost flip into a completely different character when things get serious. Most of the time, he’s the cheeriest, silliest and most playful Doctor around and then, in a moment, something else takes control. Something cold, ancient, and furious. Doctor Who is a show where the youngest ever actor to play a character can somehow look and feel the oldest out of all of them.
@@RadiuI No, it's not. Like a walker from The Walking Dead, its putrid, rotting corpse is still staggering around as if it were alive, but there's no life left inside, only a mindless, ravenous rage seeking to destroy everyone who once loved it.
Yah... The Doctor being kind of a dick is one of his most persistent traits across all regenerations. He's very smart, very old, very knowledgeable, and he knows it. And his ego doesn't get deflated often, but when it does, it feels EARNED. It's one of the things that made Romana fun, because while The Doctor may have a lot of practical experience, he's still the Time Lord equivalent of a college drop-out, allowing Romana to outsmart him from time to time in a way that feels natural.
@@Jjosh9424 I find that really hard to believe. The accent shows that the character is partially motivated by his own enjoyment, he never needed to put on a funny accent but it was fun for him so did it anyway. It's nothing to do with racism as much as it just shows how little he thinks of humanity in general and this situation he's putting them in.
As a Whovian, I take solace in these 3 facts. There's fifty good years of Who that they can't ruin. Hartnell was the first Doctor and Capaldi was the last. Lastly their version of Dr Who will be forgotten in a decade ours is forever.
I disagree with basically everything in this vid and in the comments, but I want to understand those who currently hate it. But THIS? This I’m with you on. The one number with Neil doing the Spice Girls was random and weird and surreal, just like it should be! But the others in ‘Season’ 1? Wtf is that. The number in the Christmas special? No.
The UK viewership for the 3 David Tennant specials are LESS THAN HALF of the very first Jodie Whittaker episode (and Jodie ONLY went downhill after that). The average viewing numbers for the three Tennant specials are almost EXACTLY where Sylvester McCoy's average ratings were before the show was cancelled in 1989. None of the Tennant specials surpassed viewing figures for even the least-viewed Matt Smith episode, much less any of the prior David Tennant episodes. Disney dumped a TON of cash into this production and this was NOT what they wanted to see happen. Yes, this is a huge failure. This is a big-budget special effects show, not some seedy medical drama, and it is the 60th anniversary to boot. They were expecting in excess of 10 million viewers and couldn't maintain half that.
What else does this mean? Well, it means that merchandising isn't coming back. During the Jodie Whittaker era, almost all merchandising came to an abrupt halt. NO ONE WAS BUYING THE PRODUCT. During Eccleston through Matt Smith, merchandising was HUGE. You could get EVERYTHING, from toys, posters, mugs, t-shirts, comics, etc. At one point, Character Options was reporting sales of 30,000 sonic screwdrivers a day! Then came Capaldi, and merchandising sales slowed. During Jodie, they almost died completely. Toys that did come out sold in paltry numbers. Action figures wound up in deep discount bins and suppliers still cannot get rid of "Friends of the Thirteenth Doctor" action figure sets. Almost every US licensor of Doctor Who products stopped making new items (no more T-Shirts, mugs, standees, posters, etc). UK toy releases became very sporadic as well, most being exclusives through B&M. With numbers like these, the merchandise is NOT coming back, and if it does, it won't sell enough to merit full price for very long.
This is a bridging mini series. It's not a 60th special and to be honest here in the UK they are putting more promotion into the next era of who. As for ratings, they are up on the mess chibnall made. You also can't compare 1980s ratings with 2023 ratings. Today there is more channel choice (and I had BSB here in the UK in the 80s/90s, what we now call sky TV). And as someone who owns a copy of every who story in existence (tv, film, book, comic, audio and trust me friends took the piss out of me at school for the wall of who in my family living room, where all other walls were taken up in books) nothing is new in terms of woke.
You don't have to be a doctor of psychiatry or psychology to know that " emotional baggage " literally makes us who we are. How we handle our challenges and let downs define who we are.
I think you’ll find it’s what we identify as is what defines us. Unless you’re against my ideology and therefore I will define you as an -ist and a -phobe.
it's one thing that makes us who we are of like 5 things. emotional baggage can happen in 5 different ways, itself. I'd say you don't need to be a doctor to know that but it seems you do.
As a 42 year old near-lifelong fan, I concur. After watching the episode on Saturday night I spent most of the following day feeling intermittently angry and numb... Kind of like when a beloved pet gets run over.
As a 45yo Englishman also lifelong fan bringing my kids up with Dr Who except my youngest and I did try with her on the first episode but she was bored after the first 20mins and tbh so was I so we never watched the last 2 episodes same with my eldest he watched first episode being 22 and brought up with David tennant he happens to be gay aswell so you think this is the target audience what Russel is after and he hates it aswell so sadly I a, done my sone is done and my youngest just didnt care the future sadly is dead for Dr Who and I am so sad about it they just destroying our beloved franchises 1 by 1.
as a 49 year old german, who in the 80s secretly stayed up late to see dr. who when he should have slept, yes it hurts.... (dr.who was not so popular over here, so it was shown only late night)
As a 50 year old English woman, Who’s first Dr was John Pertwee, I feel so deflated after patiently waiting a year for these episodes. My 29 year old daughter is going to give the next episode a shot, because she is hopeful that watching with her son will be their family thing as it was ours. My 23 year old son watched the first one and is now not interested. I’m very sad.
I honestly loved that they brought back David Tennant. It was fun to see him. The Bigeneration was really weird, but the 10th Doctor finally got the ending he wanted. There were a lot of things in the specials i didnt like though. The attitude they gave the doctor and telling him how he wouldnt understand because he is a "male presenting timelord". I also don't know how being non binary was important for the story. The characters gender shouldnt be important.
I agree, the gender shouldn't be important. The show was making it the whole personality of the character, instead of just one aspect of the person. So weird
@@arthurhaack618 I still remember Bi Billie, only because the showrunners wouldn't stop writing it into her lines. "Hi I'm Billie and I'm bi!" Oh! Well it's a good thing you are trapped in a cave full of Roman legionnaires who are also all gay and bi for some reason that has zero affect on the plot of the episode. Who cares? The doctor is an immortal time traveler who has evolved over the years to become the fearless and feared entity that killed the Daleks and even his own species. Part of his journey is learning how to deal with that. And yet...after Capaldi the doctor became a coward that was afraid of her own shadow while still trying to play up the girl power angle. And it just keeps getting more and more about pandering rather than good storytelling. No wonder Disney picked it up.
@@docferringer exactly. I am a part of the LGBT, but I don't tell people that when I introduce my self. Because it doesn't matter! I'm embarrassed by the shows pandering to queer people.
I suspect they kept Tennant Doctor in a form of existence, in the show, for a reason, and he will be used to reel the fans back in when 'something happens' to Gatwa Doctor, at the end of that actor's term. Their bi-generation may result in a bond that involves Tennant when it is time for Gatwa to regenerate. That's my prediction.
Russell T Davies ushered in a successful reboot of Doctor Who in 2005, partly by perfectly harnessing the nostalgia and respect of older fans, while subtlely updating the series to appeal to new viewers. His instincts in this regard have abandoned him in 2023, or maybe it's that he's had nearly 20 years of people telling him how well he handled it last time and it's blown his ego into the stratosphere to the point where he now thinks he can do no wrong. Watching Nucti Gutwa's Doctor dancing in a nightclub at the start of a new BBC trailer, wearing a singlet and kilt and nothing much else, it's clear that RTD has lost touch with who the lead character even is, and is instead writing some generic gay rom drama that happens to have a time travelling phone box in it. His disrespect of both Doctor Who's legacy in it's 60th anniversary year, and even his own legacy within that by bringing back David Tennant's Doctor only to shit all over it, has 'belled the cat' about how he will be proceeding with Doctor Who going forward. The only blessing is that its going to be so bad, that Doctor Who's days are now almost certainly numbered. And at this point, it deserves to be canceled again. It needs a rest, so someone new with an actual love of the I.P. can come along in a decade or two and revive it peoperly.
RTD has right and properly fucked the Dr. Who franchise, which may never recover. I've an idea: Feed all the Classic & NuWho (minus the latest rubbish; let fans be the judge) episodes into an A.I. programme. Let it write new episodes. Hell, it can't get any worse than Chinball's and Russel Tits Davies shitfest, could it?
@glenncoody They should do exactly this with many franchises like Dr who, Star Trek, Star Wars. Maybe they will be better than anything we got since a few years.
Matt smith, david tenant and early peter capaldi were the best of the show (not including 9th because he had a short run) sadly russell decided showing everyone as equal wasnt enough and decided to ruin good storywriting to annoy us showing a narrative every single frame and somehow ruining the sonic screwdriver which i thought was impossible as its just a screwdriver every time but different so they turned it into a magic ipod which solves every problem instantly
Whitaker's era was great. The writing was original. Problem is that people whine about original, but when they get it, then its an agenda. LOL The whole Woke argument is really just bigots looking for someone else to be responsible for their bigotry. LOL I mean, Who's creator had wanted the Doctor to transform into a woman as well as many other possibilities. There were always gay characters in the show, its just that the bigot wants them to be played and shown as being straight gays. LOL
@@mikelachey824 Whitakers era was mediocre at best. Chibnall took great pleasure in ripping apart the Canon of Doctor Who and while I'll admit Jodie got a raw deal with the rubbish writing, her Doctor is very forgettable. Over 50 years of writing was flushed down the toilet in the Timeless Children. Destroyed the legacy of William Hartnell. Killed the Doctor Donna. Retconned Davros because he was in a wheelchair. Woke took over Doctor Who and the fans just didn't deserve it.
@@mikelachey824 if you're the same person. And you reincarnate as said same person. Just looking different. You're not gonna magically turn into a gay person. It's not Bigotry. It's common sense. I'm ready for your weak arguments. Come at me.
Matt Smiths final words have been lost by RTD. Change is okay, you gotta keep moving as long as you never forget who you were. RTD has completely forgotten who the Doctor is.
"And in the years to come you might find yourself revisiting a few, but just the old favourites, ay?" - A prophecy that has come to pass and taken on an entirely new meaning. With 50 years worth of stories to enjoy, we can revisit them all. The Day of the Doctor serves as a wonderful series finale for classic Who. May it rest in peace.
@@Zontar82The last Doctor was Capaldi. He’s an older Doctor but he’s superb in the role. His performance in Mummy On the Orient Express was sensational and it’s an all time classic. This show will never reach those standards again.
@@UnlimitedRicePudding_ I'm not familiar with it but thanks for the recommendation. TV episodes, books, comics, Big Finish and other audio dramas: there's plenty in the archive to entertain fans for decades to come (same goes for Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel and DC). All this woke content is going to age very poorly but what came before is timeless.
I was having a conversation with a normie friend of mine over the weekend and, without giving it any thought, told him “All my old fandoms have been compromised - there’s pretty much nothing left from my old favorites to enjoy.” I said it matter-of-factly, but after it came out of my mouth, it saddened me to confirm out loud that so many things I used to love - comics, Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who - have all been destroyed by people that couldn’t care less about them.
I still have Star Gate and Babylon 5, simply because nothing new for them came out in the last 10 years. I used to be saf about no new content, but now I see it as a blessing.
@@Me__Myself__and__I farscape has become an untarnished favorite of mine, but like anything now I'd nearly riot over reboot attempts; 9/10 it's always a downgrade.
Yes I feel the same. I have run out of things to watch. And enjoy. Because I have seen all these things a million times. I love them, they are great. Doctor Who, Trek, Star Wars etc. But they are not making anything new from them, that is worth seeing and nothing new that is anywhere near as good as what they were years ago. And its sad as the potential is there, they just want to use them to lecture the audience now, and not entertain. So I no longer watch any of them . I watched the first two Tennant specials and they were that bad, that preachy and that much of an F. U. to older fans like me I could not bring myself to watch the last one The Giggle. I am actually glad I missed it. And what I saw for the Christmas Trailer looks like one of the worst episodes of Doctor Who I have ever seen. A mash up of Pirates of the Caribbean and the Hobbit. With the campest Doctor ever. He is even more camp than John Inman or Kenneth Williams. I cant possibly take it seriously, its like a parody, a mockery a comic pantomime. The fact its gone from 12 million plus viewers down to 4 million in ten years....two thirds of the audience are gone and its going to get worse. I would be embarrassed if someone called to visit me on Christmas Day and I was caught watching a Doctor Who as bad as this one looks....and everyone thought Whitaker and Chibnall were bad...how is it possible to make something worse than that???? But they look to have managed it....
And he was dead wrong too. Like most progressives about most topics. A lot of minorities see through this cheap virtue attempt and it turns everyone off. Just cheap
Belief doesn't affect reality, but sure. As the saying goes, you can ignore reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. The chickens will come home to roost.
I'm not a Dr Who fan but my brother is. And he's a die-hard whovian. When I tell you he's pissed, it's the understatement of the year. My brother and I don't talk much but he's been blowing my phone up over all this like never before. I think I've talked to him more in the last couple weeks than I have in the last couple years.
I've never realized how spoiled I was becoming a whovian during Peter Capaldi's era. I think it's because he's a true whovian, you can see that excited fanboy in him during interviews and even on set sometimes That firey passion spread to those who worked with him and to us the audience. Jodie tried, David didn't seem to have it much compared to his 10th doctor run, and I hope Ncuti doesn't mess it up
It's already doomed before the main series even begins, lol. Everything that defined past Doctor Who series is being defiled, and now it's just a generic sci-fi show, nothing more broo
I'm sorry, but you don't have much to hope for, my friend. Prepare for more garbage if you want to keep watching. Doctor Who is dead and burried. It died with Peter Capaldi playing the last doctor.
What did anyone expect, RTD made it very clear the only thing that matters is pushing the ' message ' and a big FU to the fans. Add Disneys amazing ability to make endless dumpster fires, and you got such a mix so toxic it could kill people at 1000 miles 😮
@@Wolf_ManJackyou’re not getting it. The point is that the agenda be advanced, the tools and fools who do the grunt work aren’t the decision makers. The more important point is that people are wise to the bullsht now.
"I don't want to go" all the way back in 2010 seems profetic now, like they knew it was going downhill from there :P Personally, I consider everything up to the introduction of Clara as canon. Things got pretty bad around that time. But even then, I wasn't too big a fan of Smith's first season, so I'd be happy to consider Tennant's final words as the end of the show.
I'm not kidding, that ending with capaldi and "rip dr who" brought a tear to my eye. Over a decade of some of the best memories, now overshadowed by the death of the show. It's like losing someone so very dear to you. 50 years of progress to bring the very best of entertainment now has had a radioactive 💩 upon it. When I go to watch Matt smith again, the old david Tennant episodes, the Baker and pertwee era or just any doctor who before 2017 I feel at peace, I feel comfort, I feel entertained and time well spent. Once the end credits roll, the world comes crashing down again, the knowledge that all that I have watched has been completely annihilated. What tears me up the most is the show won't be remember that much for the 50yrs of progress. No, it will be remembered for its agonising, torturous death. I'll say it one more time. RIP Doctor Who
Nah it's remembered fondly and been hearing good things from this special These TH-cam channels are literally the only place I've seen claim "Dr Who is ruined" all while st the same time, I've been seeing fans complain about these exact TH-cam channels
I completely agree with you. I know that there are things far worse in the world to be sad about. But this show brought so much joy to my family. We would have endless conversations about it. My kids would cosplay as characters to DragonCon in Atlanta. We were able to escape the craziness of the world, and just enjoy an imaginary story with madman in a box. And they just recklessly, killed it! Damn right, I shed a few tears! But worse, they destroyed it using one of the very best Doctors there ever was. It really is a knife in the back.😢
To your commenters replying… they must be part of the activist crowd, the 5% of the population who Might actually watch this current crap masquerading as Dr Who garbage. No! I don’t believe in intentionally marginalizing men, and straight people. Funny thing is those kinds of movies are flopping left and right, losing a ton of money too. Go throw your money at that entertainment garbage, I’ll save my money for real entertainment, not for political or ret-con crap with The Message.
Bro, why do they always fucking spoil shows and turn them into propaganda with bad writing. Like, if you want to spread your speech, MAKE ANOTHER SHOW instead of spoiling another
The point is they are too incompetent to do a show. So instead they put their propaganda in already loved stuff since they know a lot of people will check it. Not for long, since they ruin it, but that part does not matter.
@@victorvanvolt8425 Artificial inclusivity, artificial diversity, and other woke nonsense. All shallow bullshit that ignores reality in favor of a twisted fantasy.
I'm done with it, and I'm proud of you and AZ for walking away too. I gave up on the show in 2016 but have always kept an eye on the news, clips, reviews, etc. But no more. There is only so much you can take of your favourite show being violated and torn asunder.
Lol they will be back to watch the next one. They either watch it multiple times to make these videos which is sad already, or they don’t and talk shit which is even sadder.
@@chazo1367 How's your copium doing with that 4.6 million audience number there Chaz? You get a blip for Christmas day, and next year Ncuti is going to try and take Jodies' crown for the lowest audience ever. Can he/they/them do it? Don't tune in and find out!
@@timeflys3248I don't watch Dr Who, but I guess so. The franchises are like three useless woke ideologues trying out-do each other. Woke Star Wars: "This show has too many men. If you don't like my Mary Sue, then you're a sexist!" Woke LoTR: "This show has too many white people. If you don't like my Mary Sue, and the fact that I hate white people in fantasy, then you're a racist!" Woke Doctor Who: "Bruh, my Doctor is now an ex-woman bi-regenerated gay black man born from a penis, and we told his past white self that he knows nothing. Britain was black, and if it wasn't, then it *should* have been. The future is black and gay. Omg fans, why do you care?"
I love how RTD had a problem with Davros being a wheelchair user who is evil, but not with The Toymaker being a man with a thick german accent who is evil
Your video was the exact words in my mind... English in my 3ed language and I learned it 2006 because of doctor who... And after i watch last 3 episodes I was messed up for a month... They ruined the best movie and series franchise and that's very sad...😓
What a massacre, there's nothing left behind. At least we have the classic and Nerdortic to remind us to keep fighting with our wallets. Awesome episode Nerdortic, and keep being great.
Excellent idea, I will do the same. I expect the British Bolshevik Corporation to destroy all episodes pre 2017, due to them containing hate speech, and being “Off MESSAGE “
I honestly can't believe these clips are real, they are so off the scale ridiculous it's hard to believe someone actually wrote those lines and scenes and they got made without anyone with common sense saying "this story arch is crap and the dialogue is even worse"
Oh, it's real, and I don't think anyone with common sense worked on this show. Not anymore at least. God, Donna and Rose were spewing that nonsense was just so awful.
the first special was soo cringe...right after the doctor dared to assume the aliens pronouns i knew where this is going...and i thought...how did an alien even knew what pronouns mean? and why should it care? honestly when i see nowadays tv shows like this im very happy that i got born befor 2000 so i had an innocent childhood without needing to know all this stuff...
@@igneeldreemurr3643that’s the thing about the left, they think everyone thinks like them, I guess in this case they think aliens also go along with their BS 😂
I am a real woman!! Please hire me as a writer of Doctor Who so I can make the timeless children a fever dream of Jodie Whitaker’s doctor while held captive and let’s do it all over again
I thank Doctor Who for helping me get through college and some rough times in my life. Matt Smith will always be my favorite Doctor and I’m so glad he was spared. The activists can have the series now.
Also the 12th. Say what you want about the stories, but D A M N, that doctor was FANTASTIC. I leaned a lot from him and he will always be my doctor. 10 is also a big favorite and i loved his dinamic with donna in the 4th season. He also had G O O D stories, like midnight, waters of mars, the girl in the fireplace, human nature/family of blood, etc. But MAN, it would have been sublime that the series ended with the 12th doctor. A beautifully tragic ending, but fitting for a character like the doctor
@@akodaah13-e32 I give credit where it's due. And CAPALDI gave some of the best inspiring or maybe gut-wrenching speeches. Truly a great actor. He just needed better stories
@@herimen3153 Honestly I feel like Tennant came back as a nostalgia bait, and the last episode should have been longer. Anyways, I take Capaldi as my last Doctor for now.
When ideology is more important than art/entertainment, you know that its doomed to flop terribly. To Doctor Who fans, you deserve much MUCH better & I hope something good happens in the future.
What's funny about the "ideology" vs art/entertainment...they cast a diverse black Doctor Who who represents only 3% of the British population compared to the Asian 7% and 82% white. They had already abandon the long time fan base for a female Doctor, now they usher in the era of a non-Binary Black Doctor for a production that will appeal to an even smaller demographic...all in the name of representation. Good luck with that.
How come most people have been enjoying this then? I been watching the 60th anniversary special slowly and been enjoying it. At most there was one part that fell off but it all felt so nice.
@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0000 Quentin Tarantino was talking to Bill Maher & he said that ideology now is more important than art, individual effort, good vs evil & entertainment.
There were decades with no who. The show was dead to me when the female took over and Peters last season sucked too, which is why I respect him for leaving.
Listen, I'm a gay black man and I Loved Dr who but yeah I'm over it now. I'm glad they're more concerned about pandering rather than their loyal fans. Sad
people crying because their child hood hero doesn't resemble them anymore after decades and you are crying because the same character resembles now you ... indoctrinated much lolol.
@@MatthewBretton-cu2elwhy does it matter who is represented when the story is taking a hit due to it? This is the issue with the culture war, those who want ‘representation’ generally do not care about it being a quality product
@@MatthewBretton-cu2el the character, should only portray what is true to the character. if you suddenly become fake, other people also wouldnt like it.
As I turn 60 I grew up on Dr Who - Tom Baker era was clearly the best for me - the reboot in 2005 I thought was also very good - now its woke joke and such a pity the legacy of Dr Who has now been destroyed for future generations
@@JohnDrewDesigner- PBS channel WTTW in Chicago used to show Dr. Who on Sunday nights, after Monty Python and either Dave Allen or The Two Ronnies, back in the day.
@@JohnDrewDesigner Are you sure that reply was intended for me? If so, I'm sorry to say that your efforts writing that post were wasted as my knowledge of the programme is encyclopaedic. And if it was intended for me, I'm genuinely perplexed as to why you didn't think I was aware of any of that information.....
Doctor Who re-invented itself after 16 years of hiatus (1989-2005) I believe this is the time to cancel it again and bring it back maybe 10-15 years later. My father grew up with the original, I grew up with 2005 Doctor Who (till 2016), and I hope my kids will have the same opportunity in 2035+
Doctor Who died after Capaldi, his last words perfectly said it, "Doctor, I let you go". We can let him go and wonder into the night on the Tardis going off on all those endless adventures.
Doctor Who was British, geeky and for nerds? For what audience is this crap 😅 Im gonna re-watch the old good stuff. This is a insult, juvenile and dumb political nonsense. This generation of film destroys everything.
I love when they say "who cares if they are race swapped, gender swapped, gay, trans, etc?" They are the ones that care so much, they are so completely obsessed with identity politics they will crash entire brands and companies to push their obsession. They can't look at a person without seeing nothing but race, gender, sexual identity, etc.
I don't know, I might enjoy Hitler as a vlack man, or "gasp" Trans man. That certainly would seem to fit how they act. Trans, not black. The black man thing would be for the irony of it all.
It’s all for the removal of the past hero’s and role models. To normalise the narcissists, the hedonists, the perverse. When everything is removed and replaced then everything will be “normal” .
@@Docktavion Or maybe when people get exposed to this kind of stuff, they might eventually think not to call something narcissistic, hedonistic or perverse just because they don't understand it.
Also, the current race-swapping is only pale-skinned to diverse, never the other way around. So much for 'blind casting', we know it's for diversity and inclusion.
@@fantalone666 that’s true, look at the insistence of calling everyone “far right, nazis, sexist, phobic, misogynist, anti-vax, anti-science etc.etc”. They are all buzz words with no substance, you ask them to explain what they mean and you get mental/cognitive dissidence as they have no clue.
How prophetic was it that the 12th Doctor's last words were, "Doctor, I let you go." 😢 Oh well, I have a lot of the original Doctor Who on DVD or Blu-Ray, and all of the modern Who through Capaldi (not all the 12th Doctor was woke or bad) on Blu-Ray. That's how I will choose to remember the show.
For me the prophetic/4th wall breaking line was "I don't want to do this anymore" uttered by old guy companion in the Rosa Parks episode. Me either buddy...me either...
Capaldi is where the collapse began, but you're right, not all of it was bad. I liked the Clara arc, and the episode after her death is probably one of the best episodes of Dr. Who ever produced period.
Capaldi's doctor had some really bad moments but I also think it may have had the best moments as well. It was such an up and down. The Zygone war speech from Capaldi may arguably be the best moment in the whole show. Him trapped in the confession dial I personally think was one of the most simple sequences in the show but also one of the most well written and emotional when the reveal happens.
@@shadoukingu3730 Agreed on all points. "Heaven Sent" was an awesome episode with a simple premise that really paid off. Hell Bent was a good follow-up to it.
I remember how incredibly powerful Capaldi's "I WILL NOT CHANGE" was, as he fought his regeneration by pounding into the snow. Looking back on that, you could kind of use that moment as foreshadowing....
@@popot4627 It's not your headcanon, it's the official Doctor Who canon. Timelords can only regenerate 12 times, making 13 in total, meaning Capaldi WAS the last doctor, and no retconning will change what the creators of the show intended.
Yea it is sad indeed. Canonically for me, I have The Husband of River Song as my ending. Or if I’m feeling a sad ending, The Doctor Falls where the Doctor says “Pity, No stars. I thought there would be stars…” and stop it there as his final act of heroism.
Oh, the stunned silence in that theater when Tom Baker's voice boomed from off screen. A pin drop would have sounded deafening. Truly a moment in time now lost like tears in the rain. RIP Doctor Who.
@@IllisiaAdams I was speaking to the degenerate level of entertainment which reflects the culture of our civilization, which history has shown leads to well.. look it up! In any event. God help us all from THAT, which sadly I fear it's too late.
Honestly, the real problem for the show is that it seems to be playing more to an American audience, and the general dumbing down of certain things in the series. Disney? There is a great chance that it will ruin the show... I said what I said... I love the show, but weep for the Americanisation of it.
The worst part is, most of the American Audience doesn't want this either. We already watched this happen to starwars and startrek and Marvel studios. I mostly watch youtube now when I was an avid movie and tv watcher in the past. My 1st reaction to the end of the female doctor was hope it might get better. Then I started hearing quotes from interviews about the new doctor and that hope died.
We know history isn't to our liking, so by lying we can summon forth a new better society. The arrogance with a dollop of self righteousness that these people possess is extremely annoying.
I remember a time when looking at the history, even or especially the ugly stuff was held in high regards. Looking at facts, learning from mistakes. I kind of like this idea to be frank. Showing history not how it was but how you would like it is a dangerous path, because everyone has a different idea of what it "should" be. That is also an insult to the actual humans who did great things if you miss represent them. Imagine showing the "I have a dream" speech and having a white actor do it. Doesn't feel right. Similarly showing a historical figure that was white as a person of color just doesn't feel right. Facts should not be changed. Especially since I think showing it and talking in a respectful way how you could improve things has way more meaning then showing something wrong and claiming that's how it should be.
The timeless child causes so many plot wholes and writing issues it amazes me they don’t just act like it never happened and move on. It completely removes all tension from any scene where the doctor could die. Undoes the 11th doctors final episode(that being that he only has one life left and will spend it defending trenzalore) and so much more. It is the “jump the shark” moment of Dr. Who and as long as it’s canon it will forever harm the brand of Dr who
Well it WAS the Jumping the shark moment, unti bi-generation happened. Now according to RTD every past doctors regeneration became bi-generation and the old doctors didnt die as the new ones appeared, and all past canon is now set loose and undefined. Chibnall changed canon back to the first minute of the show in 1963 and damaged it beyond repair. RTD has erased canon, completely, now only head canon matters and each viewer can make up whatever they want. I dont think theres any way to come back from that.
Yep, it removes tension, and it removes the reward of the Doctor cheating his way out with bonus regenerations from the Timelords or something. The Bi-generation also removes the bittersweet goodbye of a Doctor and the surprise and time to shine for the new one.
Can't the doctor still die? Like The doctor could still be killed mid-generation and killed off. It was the over arching plot point of a whole season(6?). unless I missed something from the new series in which case I'm sorry.
Doctor Who holds a special place in my heart. It got me through a lot of hard times, and I’ll still watch the entire catalogue of old episodes, but I’ll not watch moving forward… I can’t. Even though I knew it was going to happen, I still watched and it broke my heart. I’m done.
I stood in front of a statue depicting a great hero. He was a legendary hero, greater than life, and I remember being awestruck by the greatness the statue managed to exert. But when I looked at it, I saw that the statue had been vandalized. Some cruel hands had chiseled, painted, and bent the statue until it was unrecognizable. I began to weep, and a child asked me why I was crying. I told the child it was because of the statue. Such a great and noble thing had been destroyed, and it saddened me. The child asked me why would such a thing upset me. It is but a statue after all. And I told the child that it represented such great and beautiful things, greater and more beautiful than anyone could imagine, and now no one will experience it ever again. And the child will never get the chance to glimpse it either.
The child will never understand the importance of this metaphorical statue, nor the statues of real people getting torn down in the name of progress all over the west.
Capaldi was the last doctor, and all this time we had been in denial, if they want to do something different I would be happy to watch "Clara and me in the restaurant at the end of the universe"
Notice how every doctor after Capaldi, had good memory after regenereating.... I say they are a figment of his imagination and he's really in a coma or something.
How I HONOR You! Jodie Whittaker was a poor Doctor not because she was a woman, but because she couldn't portray Doctor's character. Unfortunately, with her came the degeneration of the brand. And the rotten cherry on top of this cake made of expired cream, Surströmming and Hakarl is that they made yeast out of the Doctor. And why? Well, because yeast reproduces by partitioning. So, as the classic said: "Silence over that coffin."
The problem with calling yourself "Progressive" is every time you achieve a goal, you then have to find a new goal and proceed to once again beat the rest of us to death with it. They will insist on taking us down no end of weird backwaters, and if they have their way this "progress" will be unending.
Maybe gatekeeping wasn't about discriminating against people for things they can't control. Maybe it was about protecting the integrity of the franchise after all...
@@neutraliserjanine There can be people of diverse in the back ground without being main characters. So basically anyone that isn't white needs to be background characters. Okay...
@@claytonrios1They use women and non-whites as trojan horses to infiltrate and destroy it from within. Women in general only try to infiltrate make spaces to make them arbor themselves and keep their gynocentric gritty going, because if men have their own spaces and hobbies, they might realize they have a right to exist for their own sake and not merely for the sake of women.
I keep wishing we ended with Capaldi's run. He have the best version of the ancient time lord following on from Matt Smith holding that same vibe hidden under a childish mask. In Capaldi's last episode I could feel how tired the time lord was, just wanting to finally stop after over a millennia of running, but "one more lifetime couldn't hurt". After that they needed to bring their A game, that episode could have been a perfect send of for the show in my eyes so they needed to make the future season perfect to earn the right to keep going on. Instead they dragged it all through the mud, burning the fans, destroying the characters and tainting my favourite send off with their filth. Losing Star Wars was painful, but nothing they have done has felt like such an assault as this.
Fans: "Well congrats yourself, Russell. You not only ruin your own legacy and respect, but also lost your well established fans and embarrassed David. All because of the agenda you think you believe in to pander to a group of people that don't care or won't watch. Was it worth it?" Russell T. Davies:....."Yes." 😁
It isn't like Davies hasn't done this in the past, its just turned it up to 11 for the New Nu Who reboot. I assume it will chill at a bit as the new series begins.
Most of the well established fans that were even still around were out when the Timeless Child happened, but if any were still hanging on, they're gone now.
Don't think Tennant has been unknowingly embarrassed, he's fully on board with this shit. I thought those 2 guys were the ones to respect the series' past the most, it's a shame what they've become. I'll still enjoy what has been done in the past but now I've lost all respect for them
Recently I've been rewatching Doctor Who, the early 2000's. All the way until season 12, is where it ends for me. I don't give a flying frog's ass for Jodie Wickeder. So I am inclined to enjoy my beloved 9-12 Doctors. Screw the modern agenda
Think about it... only 5.08 million people watched this show. We're talking about the return of the most popular modern Doctor, David Tennant, and 2/3 of his original audience didn't even show up. More than 100,000 hated it so much, they wrote angry letters to the BBC. By the third special, 400,000 couldn't be bothered to watch the regeneration episode to see the new Doctor. And Davies mentioned that MILLIONS were being poured into this new Doctor Who, "more money than he has ever had to work with." You're going to pour millions more into something, you're going to expect a BIGGER return than before... but nope, it fizzled. And it is ONLY downhill from here. There is ZERO hype right now.
In the same way Disney doesn’t fork out $250-300M on a movie just to break even, the BBC didn’t bring Catherine Tate, David Tennant and RTD back just to get 5M overnight viewers.
you seem to be forgetting that most viewers now watch via streaming services. that 5.08 million ONLY includes live tv from bb1, not including iplayer, disney plus or any other services that stream doctor who to their country.
@@KoizumiASMR The streaming doesn't matter because it's being compared to the British audience numbers that other Doctors had. For example, when Jodie was Doctor and had similar numbers, the media reported it as being low viewership. And let's note that after Jodie, because of the low viewership, the show was actually going to be canceled until RTD stepped in. Plus, Doctor Who is a beloved British institution, and I for one would have expected a bigger surge there for the return of the most popular NuWho Doctor.
@@marychocolatefairy Once again, streaming wasnt as popular back then even in jodies time people still mostly watched it live on tv and not streamed. With the disney+ deal a very large chunk of people have moved to streaming.
I'm not a Dr. Who fan personally, but as a fan of other similarly murdered franchises, you in the Dr.Who fandom have my sympathy and condolences. I've heard it argued that Dr.Who died the worst death of all the violated franchises, to which I was initially skeptical, but after what I've heard about these Specials and the look at the new season, I think agree.
I don't know if Dr. Who is the worst murdered/plundered franchise... Amazon's Wheel of Prime (Time) is a complete perversion of the original books... and "oddly" enough... it's another show run by a... person like Chibnal and Davies.
@@Nyet-Zdyes Wheel of Time is one I know almost nothing about, the book or the show, other than the show is terrible. But I thought Shad or Disperu said the author had no control over the show, he made suggestions and Amazon just ignored him. That's what I imagine must really sting the Who fans, having a celebrated former head of the show (2nd best thing to the creator) return, not to save it, but to put the final nail in the coffin, and personally join in on attacking the fans online. Brutal.
Doctor who was once a show that even a few years ago gave us magnificent commentary, or at least solid commentary, that most folks could support. I think specifically of a moment during Peter Capaldi's reign where he gives a magnificent monolog on the idea that, "War sucks, don't go to war if it can be avoided. If you use your brain, it can always be avoided." We went from that to, in the span of about two years, a badly written alternative history magic schoolbus. The villain in that episode I mentioned was the greater concept of War itself. One of Jodie Whittaker's earliest episodes, the villain was a time traveling Neo-Nazi who's entire goal was to prevent Rosa Parks from ever even getting on the bus. That same episode featured Doctor King, and he had barely 6 lines and was irrelevant to any of the actual plot. Jodie could have been awesome. She was a decent actress. She was given absolute crap to work with though.
"Emotional baggage" Really?!! That's why I love the doctor. A person that has lived for the longest time, with vastly more experience and knowledge than his adversaries and supporters, all the loss, grief and mistakes he made, he has to live with all that and keep moving forward because he understands that if he stops, evil wins. "Emotional baggage"
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And that is true Message lost on these fools now days. You cannot just drop your past, the pain, the trauma. You learn to live with and keep moving forward, you find a way to use it to motivate you, to empower you, to make you better. But these current fools think you can only wallow in it or forget it. That is not how people work, and those who do function that way are broken people who need to fix themselves instead of "fixing" the world around them.
Yeah- what these current "identity first!" writers fail to understand is that most people don't relate to characters based on color shades or sexuality, but rather based on the characters' actions and experiences.
I started watching with Eccleston and I only watched it because my brother wanted to watch it when it started lol, but I grew to love it and I laughed and cried with each regeneration and I loved every moment the doctor was brilliant and smart and remembered something that could help save the day. The companions had great and different personalities and they helped as best they could too. When Jodie came... Even from her first episode, I never saw her get a moment. With previous gens, there was always this moment in the new doctor's first episode where you knew it was the doctor coming back but with a new face, but with Jodie, I never got that, and it never came. This has just spiraled and gone out of control. I could rant on and on but I've already done that enough. the TL;Dr of it is, Capaldi was right with his final words. "Doctor, I let you go."
Doctor What, as in “What the hell are we supposed to like about seeing everything be destroyed before our eyes?” Doctor Why, as in “Why would they do this?” Doctor How, as in “How could they do this to us?” Doctor Where, as in “Where will the wokies go next?”
GAY POLITICAL ACTIVISM is the reason and the desire to screw everything up for the other people who did enjoy the show just to be a bi(ch ....you can see it in the producers eyes and mannerisms in every interview and whenever he talks about the show
It will be cancelled within one season. The fans are gone, the "modern audience" is a myth, and will not watch the show. I hope it was worth it for that sweet DEI score from Blackrock...
@@keiranoshea6748 It is important. RTD has said that it's important to him. Don't pretend it's trivial. If it were so trivial why would they bother doing it? And RTD does enjoy fan baiting i.e. trolling- it's pretty clear from the interviews, old chap.
Lol I'm sad for everyone who watches this channel. Every British Doctor Who fan I personally know loved every episode. 10/10. I'm kinda glad Americans hated them. Thank you Disney.
So many classics destroyed lately, it's unbelievable. Let us rejoice in the fond memories of the past and only show our children the good versions. Don't let these people's recklessness take away your joy in good writing. Even if it is only available in the past.
A buddy of mine was obsessed with Who for the longest time, he's not a culture war kind of guy, he doesn't care. But he dipped halfway through Capaldis run and never looked back. It's kind of pathetic how it lost such a huge fan like him.
I was such a big fan that I got a Doctor Who tattoo to celebrate the 50th anniversary but pretty much dipped out during the Capaldi era as well when I got tired of watching the doctor be belittled and constantly being told that his companion was a lesbian. I haven't been able to keep myself from paying attention to what happens with the show though and I couldnt help but watch the David Tennant episodes but I have no desire to watch it anymore.
Star Trek? Seriously? I guess you must have been outraged when Uhura (who wasn't a maid either) kissed Kirk, when Jadzia kissed another woman, when there was a Russian and a Japanese serving as officers on the Enterprise, when they criticised racism in Let That Be Your Last Battlefield, when... My point is that Star Trek and hell, all these others franchises, have always been against bigotery and fascism.
:sigh: I grew up watching Dr Who, mostly Pertwee and Baker. I even illustrated a fan magazine at high school (in the 80s when started going downhill). I adored the new incarnations of the Doctor. I loved Captain Jack Harkness... but they decided to make the Doctor a job position rather than a character... something that needed to be filled by every race and gender. The Doctors character was ALWAYS male and paternal, that was who he was, Humanity's Dad... no more. The Doctor was never a formidable character because he was male... he was a formidable character because he expected the same things from Humanity that a father would from a child. He didn't provide succour and comfort.... he judged and rewarded our actions... he provided information, advice and expressed disappointment when humanity succumbed to its baser instincts.
If the Doctor was *always* paternal, why did Sydney Newman consider casting a female Doctor? The 'fans' make these conditions, not the writers. It's a tv show & people have always taken it far too seriously. The fact is it started to lose its way as far back as the Tom Baker years. The objections to modern day Doctor Who are generational, 50 somethings aren't supposed to like it, it's not for us. I hated the BBC incarnation of Auf Wiedersehen Pet, I didn't watch it as a result. It's simple, if you don't like it, stop watching it. It's a tv show & nothing more, these attacks on it are just part of the depressing Right Wing mire this wretched country finds itself in. Whinging gammons who should be worried about important things & not kids tv that they ought to have grown out of decades ago.
@@dobr4481 The Doctor was always paternal... because he was always paternal. It's just a fact of his character. He is that way because he was always written that way, it's called an identity. That is his identity, always was. Consistency in ones characteristics is what we call good characterization. Characters can change, but that change has to be earned and make sense for the character. Bad writing and bad characterization are just bad. You don't have to run interference for these dullards (FOR FREE might I add) just because you agree with them about some irrelevant policy you have no actual control over anyway. If the bad writing was propping up some ridiculous right wing ideology... WE WOULD STILL BE HERE saying it's bad! But... where is all the fiction propping up right wing ideology? Hmm, I wonder where it could be... could it be that the people holding power over platforms and what gets made in the industry only allow works which tow the ideological line to be made? Do you not think a monoculture in fiction is a problem? What about plurality? Diversity? By the way... "kids tv" is more important than most laws, most politicians, and most policy. This media uniquely shapes future generations, that's why ideologues have captured it: precisely because it IS so important.
In the name of the father the son and the Holy Spirit amen. Peace be with you. Ladies and Gentlemen we are gathered here today to celebrate the life and legacy of Dr. Who. If anybody else like to say a few words about the deceased please step forward.
@@IllisiaAdams quit fooling yourself its well and truly dead ... its called the mourning process your going through 1st stage is denial once you relise this you will see the truth and accept the fact its a rotting corpse of a show
The Doctor was part of my best memories that I have with my family. I would love to talk more about this, but it would literally fill several pages. This new Doctor's characterization as described by Screen Rant is absolutely horrendous. That is NOT the Doctor; it's an ersatz-Doctor! The Doctor is supposed to be brilliant -- he is a homage to one of the greatest fictional heroes of all time, Sherlock Holmes (my *favorite* fictional character)! He is supposed to be occasionally the arrogant and insufferable know-it-all. He is one of the most powerful entities in the universe because of his vast intelligence, knowledge and wisdom. His delight is in being compassionate and willing to share with others the mysteries and wonders of time and space. And he has ALWAYS was willing to learn and react to the unknown. That is *why* he travels! So, I wish Ncuti Gatwa the best. But I do not believe if he will be a great Doctor. I would like to have them to prove this middle-age African American who has been with show since the 1980s wrong, but I do not think this going to happen. I have my all of the seasons of New Who up to the Capaldi era and a few of Classic Who episodes. I will always enjoy and cherish those episodes. And since, the BBC and their ilk is saying this show is not for me anymore ...then fuck this noise. I'm out.
I am a New Who convert! I'd barely heard of it before then. (American.) But I fell in love with it just about instantly, from the first few scenes. Nine was my Doctor. I adored this show. To see what they have done to it has broken my heart. Truly. I can't even imagine how it must be for long time fans who grew up with the Classic Era. (Which I have been enjoying via Britbox.) I refused to watch any of these specials. I am just seeing these clips through various reviews. I forced myself to watch them just to make sure I saw for myself, instead of just taking the word of others. I cannot believe the drivel I am hearing these characters speak. Nor would I have believed that RTD Davros comment if I had not heard it directly from him. 4:45 Oh, wow! That is a real quote from Moffat?! They were ADMITTING they were intentionally making up black people in history where there weren't actually? They... admitted it?! I'd never seen that! Nor had I seen the other one about only homosexuals being allowed to portray homosexuals. How stupid is that?! Wait, did they say for sure that the Doctor is a homosexual now?! What in the BLAZES was that clip of him dancing with a skirt on! I think this is the first time watching your channel. Thanks for the clips and rundown. I refused to watch any of the specials. (As much as I adored this show.) I knew it would be bad. But, wow, it was so much worse than I thought. I loved this show. This makes me so very sad. They destroyed Star Wars. They destroyed Indian Jones. Now this.
Yeah they admitted to inserting black people into parts of history were they weren't and pretending it's accurate. It's some weird white liberal low of thinking minorities need white handouts.
@sem-zs3nl Ah, yes, transphobia. A made up word, created by fake men and woman in an effort to insult the mentally stable in an effort to bring about compliance. A phobia, on the other, actually is a mental health issue, and that would make you an Abliest. Insensitive to those who actually suffer from phobias.
@@sem-zs3nl Well by definition... No Rose is not a woman. A woman is (according to Oxford Languages definition) of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes.
Yes. We began to get a hint of it a few years ago when all of the awards programs began to have uneducated actors trying to school us on politics during their speeches. Slowly films had to have a woke bent to be noticed. Finally the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences put a rule in that to be eligible for an award, films would have to meet their percentage of every minority and diversity possible. No diversity to meet their demands, which had nothing to do with art, no award. Now, any film that is eligible for an award, isn't worth watching. It is propaganda rather than art. Thankfully I can find thousands of older movies and TV shows that are excellent and are artistic ... or at least entertaining when that's what my brain needs.
2:56 i can understand the dr recognizing aliens may not hold the same gendered terms but i do feel like there was stuff they threw in that felt out of place and just there to be there.
The 50th anniversary special can be seen as a nice book ending to the entire franchise. The 11th Doctor saving Gallifrey with the help of his past selves and he will now go back home through the longest path. No need for more episodes after that one.
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As a Star Wars fan, I would like to offer my condolences to the Doctor Who fans.
Thank you. It's been a frustrating six years.
Dude, i'm sorry for your people too :(
As a lifelong Trekkie, I'll second that.
Amen!
Any tips to start and best part to end when going in the Star Wars and Dr. Who ??
Dr. Who fans are some of the nicest and most passionate people I’ve met, and like many other fanbases, they didn’t deserve to have their franchise ruined by idiots.
well Amazon did call the Lord of the Rings's fans evil so there's that
💯 agree! Dr. Who… one flush down the toilet is all it took🤢
*commies
@@Tallacus Well, let them be the only ones who watches that show then
Nobody on this comment section are Doctor Who fans lmfao. Only little haters lol.
That whole BS about the MALE Doctor not being able to let go of power drives me nuts!! Have they already forgotten how Doctor Donna begged, pleaded and cried for the Doctor NOT to take her power away from her...even though she knew it would kill her!
Exactly! Like what is with them and bashing on men?! The Doctor has made many sacrifices before. Did they think that he wouldn't do that because he was MALE?! God, way to ruin Donna.
Agreed! Also with the stupid timeless children if the doctor has unlimited regeneration then donna is safe from death anyway. Cuz the doctor can just heal her with regeneration energy.
it's just so stupid!
A man is defined by the sacrifices he makes
It was a gratingly stupid line for sure, for so many reasons. That said I don't think your example is the best; I'm pretty sure Donna was begging to keep her memories of her time with the doctor, and her friendship with him. He was taking away so much more than just her newfound power
You're being stupid. Doctor Donna didn't beg him to let her keep her powers, she begged him to let her keep her MEMORIES.
The Daleks tried for ages to kill off The Doctor and yet somehow the BBC managed it ridiculously easily.
Correction Disney. The BBC TRIED for a couple Years with Jodi..but Disney said hold my beer in less than 3 specials.
You two never watched the show because it’s always been progressive i mean there is a literall video titled doctor who being political for 1 hour and it has been woke since it was created but you never wachted the show so please watch the video I mentioned and then you think maybe I was wrong I guess it has been woke since it started to get a life and be quiet ok thank you
@@Batmanvideos84789It was political but not to this degree like it values politics more than the story at this point
Indocrinate, Indocrinate, indoctrinate.
@@Batmanvideos84789 hey, i also think that DW has always been progressive. But also agree with what the guy in the video said... i feel sad watching doctor who because i miss the 'Big Brain' moments where i had to pause the episode to try and understand all the wibly wobly stuff. Since Capaldi left i never felt that way again. since i've started watching i noticed it's weird only having a white male protagonist, i was so happy hearing about jodie coming in and thought "finally not a male doctor"... but i was expecting the show to continue beeing all crazy and stories conected and i having to really use my brain to undestand an episode. i wish the writers and directors could have continued the amazing story... but now it feels like i DONT have to use my brain to understand an episode... i love the fact that we finally had a female doctor and a black doctor now, i wish we keep having all kinds of people as the Doctor, because that is what the Doctor is. but i want good stories. they don't have to have a story beeing about gender equality to let people know about gender equality. i've learn so much watching doctor who, now it feels just like a repeat of what is happening in the world, episodes have no connection and story have huge holes in it... im sad for Jodie and Ncuti, both great people and great actors, but they got to be the Doctor when the writers are lazy...
As I recall from studying *real* history, governments that sought to rewrite history to suit their needs weren't exactly the most peaceful idealistic societies.
Got it in one
"History is written by the victims"...
Soviet Russia and the "democratic" West comes to mind. Isn't it a coincidence that Germany saw them as the enemy?
The soviets were notorious for this and their culture suffered greatly as a result
And we are watching this very symptom of humanity take place in real time
One of my all time favourite moments in all of Doctor Who was Jo Grant's departure. She announces she's getting married and although the Doctor acts happy for her you can tell he is devasted that the woman that kept him company through his years of being trapped on earth is leaving him. As everyone pours drinks to celebrate the Doctor silently drinks his and leaves the party while no one is looking (He didn't notice that Jo saw him). Then the Doctor, an ageless alien, drives away on his own.
Calling scenes like that baggage is fucking insulting
It's pretentious and unfounded.
What abour the Eleventh Doctor meet Jo again.
The silhouette of Bessie against the twilight sky was a lovely bittersweet ending to that series.
Fantastic comment. A scene like that says more than any agenda laden diatribe can ever convey. It's one of those true timeless moments.
YES YES THIS.
I used to love this show so much...now its my most hated. Well done everybody involved. 👏
Don't hate. When all things fail, and they always do with activists, they still take comfort in having ruined it for you and making you hate. Drinking fanboy tears, remember? Laugh at their failure. Ridicule their insanity. And above all don't watch their garbage. Just watch the Disparu reviews and others instead. Constantly remind them of their failure and how they are what they claim to fight and hate. THE BAD PEOPLE FROM GERMANY! As for the show, I think I can still stomach it up to season 9 of the new series. Never saw seasons 10 and beyond and I think I will keep it that way. AFAIC Capaldi is still the Doctor, a madman in his blue box, and this just corporate hate fiction made by bitter tumblristas.
Remember the phoenix
These shows have to burn to ash in order to rise anew
Don’t stress during this process
Laugh and enjoy shows from other countries
I'm going to miss that music.
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623you're part of the problem telling people how to feel
@@Rusty84CVI'm pretty sure you didn't read his comment. He's actually being pretty logical on how to approach these dumpster fires. The people ruining these shows aren't the ones watching them. They just enjoy seeing others sad and angry. So by not giving them the satisfaction, you deprive them of it.
So no, he's not part of the problem. Dummies that control their emotions or think logically are. You know, dummies like you.
The grief I feel for a show I’ve been loyal to for almost 20 years is awful. I’ve never been so angry at writers.
I'm over it ... Dr Who is a remnant of my childhood now ... time to grow up
I'm a new watcher of doctor who and I do not want to watch the Disney/ new doctor who
The Doctor being a slightly insufferable know-it-all is precisely why we loved him, among a myriad of other traits. I will personally never forget how David Tennant brought us the most compelling expression of "righteous anger" I think I'll ever see in my life. To be a lonely, wounded, god, filled with the rage of centuries pouring it out on the darkest of foes...it was just all so brilliant. RIP Dr. Who.
I personally loved how Matt Smith could almost flip into a completely different character when things get serious. Most of the time, he’s the cheeriest, silliest and most playful Doctor around and then, in a moment, something else takes control. Something cold, ancient, and furious.
Doctor Who is a show where the youngest ever actor to play a character can somehow look and feel the oldest out of all of them.
its still going!
@@RadiuI No, it's not. Like a walker from The Walking Dead, its putrid, rotting corpse is still staggering around as if it were alive, but there's no life left inside, only a mindless, ravenous rage seeking to destroy everyone who once loved it.
@@zxyatiywariii8How come I've been seeing a lot of people enjoy it then?
Yah... The Doctor being kind of a dick is one of his most persistent traits across all regenerations. He's very smart, very old, very knowledgeable, and he knows it. And his ego doesn't get deflated often, but when it does, it feels EARNED. It's one of the things that made Romana fun, because while The Doctor may have a lot of practical experience, he's still the Time Lord equivalent of a college drop-out, allowing Romana to outsmart him from time to time in a way that feels natural.
You cant have Davros in a wheelchair but you can give the Toy maker a German accent????!!!!!
If you notice, the accent was only affected in some scenes.
No RTD gave the toymaker a German accent to tell us that putting on a accent is racist to show us that he's evil he said this in the BTS
@@Jjosh9424 I find that really hard to believe. The accent shows that the character is partially motivated by his own enjoyment, he never needed to put on a funny accent but it was fun for him so did it anyway. It's nothing to do with racism as much as it just shows how little he thinks of humanity in general and this situation he's putting them in.
@@fukyoutubestupidfuckinghandles you can find it hard to believe but it's quite literally what RTD said in the behind the scenes
@@fukyoutubestupidfuckinghandles also the toymaker assumes where that bloke is from at the start of the episode to show that he's a racist
As a Whovian, I take solace in these 3 facts. There's fifty good years of Who that they can't ruin. Hartnell was the first Doctor and Capaldi was the last. Lastly their version of Dr Who will be forgotten in a decade ours is forever.
The problem is they have and are removing older “problematic” episodes. Bit by bit they will find fault with each era and replace them all.
Keep crying
@@Metallifux1888 So you enjoy others' pain? You're a sociopath.
Is he ACTUALLY crying? Tears falling? No. So you're a lying sociopath.
find archives or create them only thing you can do now @@Docktavion
@@ThatBlueSkull exactly and buy physical media.
Disney's fault, I would say. MUSICAL IN DOCTOR WHO!??!?!💀😭 I was cringing more and more
I disagree with basically everything in this vid and in the comments, but I want to understand those who currently hate it. But THIS? This I’m with you on. The one number with Neil doing the Spice Girls was random and weird and surreal, just like it should be! But the others in ‘Season’ 1? Wtf is that. The number in the Christmas special? No.
The UK viewership for the 3 David Tennant specials are LESS THAN HALF of the very first Jodie Whittaker episode (and Jodie ONLY went downhill after that).
The average viewing numbers for the three Tennant specials are almost EXACTLY where Sylvester McCoy's average ratings were before the show was cancelled in 1989.
None of the Tennant specials surpassed viewing figures for even the least-viewed Matt Smith episode, much less any of the prior David Tennant episodes.
Disney dumped a TON of cash into this production and this was NOT what they wanted to see happen. Yes, this is a huge failure. This is a big-budget special effects show, not some seedy medical drama, and it is the 60th anniversary to boot. They were expecting in excess of 10 million viewers and couldn't maintain half that.
What else does this mean? Well, it means that merchandising isn't coming back. During the Jodie Whittaker era, almost all merchandising came to an abrupt halt. NO ONE WAS BUYING THE PRODUCT. During Eccleston through Matt Smith, merchandising was HUGE. You could get EVERYTHING, from toys, posters, mugs, t-shirts, comics, etc. At one point, Character Options was reporting sales of 30,000 sonic screwdrivers a day! Then came Capaldi, and merchandising sales slowed. During Jodie, they almost died completely. Toys that did come out sold in paltry numbers. Action figures wound up in deep discount bins and suppliers still cannot get rid of "Friends of the Thirteenth Doctor" action figure sets. Almost every US licensor of Doctor Who products stopped making new items (no more T-Shirts, mugs, standees, posters, etc). UK toy releases became very sporadic as well, most being exclusives through B&M. With numbers like these, the merchandise is NOT coming back, and if it does, it won't sell enough to merit full price for very long.
Are you sure Disney didn’t want this because I’m pretty sure this is exactly what they wanted
👍👍 to the failure of this sad piece of junk.
@@DoodleThis They wanted in excess of 10 million UK viewers and a ton of subscribers to join for this... didn't happen.
This is a bridging mini series. It's not a 60th special and to be honest here in the UK they are putting more promotion into the next era of who. As for ratings, they are up on the mess chibnall made. You also can't compare 1980s ratings with 2023 ratings. Today there is more channel choice (and I had BSB here in the UK in the 80s/90s, what we now call sky TV).
And as someone who owns a copy of every who story in existence (tv, film, book, comic, audio and trust me friends took the piss out of me at school for the wall of who in my family living room, where all other walls were taken up in books) nothing is new in terms of woke.
You don't have to be a doctor of psychiatry or psychology to know that " emotional baggage " literally makes us who we are. How we handle our challenges and let downs define who we are.
I think you’ll find it’s what we identify as is what defines us.
Unless you’re against my ideology and therefore I will define you as an -ist and a -phobe.
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
It's how we take action in the real world...
Everybody hates Star Trek V but Kirk's speech about needing his pain was a good scene.
it's one thing that makes us who we are of like 5 things. emotional baggage can happen in 5 different ways, itself.
I'd say you don't need to be a doctor to know that but it seems you do.
As 47 year old Englishman who grew up with Dr Who, this hurts my soul.
As a 42 year old near-lifelong fan, I concur. After watching the episode on Saturday night I spent most of the following day feeling intermittently angry and numb... Kind of like when a beloved pet gets run over.
As a 45yo Englishman also lifelong fan bringing my kids up with Dr Who except my youngest and I did try with her on the first episode but she was bored after the first 20mins and tbh so was I so we never watched the last 2 episodes same with my eldest he watched first episode being 22 and brought up with David tennant he happens to be gay aswell so you think this is the target audience what Russel is after and he hates it aswell so sadly I a, done my sone is done and my youngest just didnt care the future sadly is dead for Dr Who and I am so sad about it they just destroying our beloved franchises 1 by 1.
as a 49 year old german, who in the 80s secretly stayed up late to see dr. who when he should have slept, yes it hurts.... (dr.who was not so popular over here, so it was shown only late night)
Is Jack Harcness character who is bisexual hurt you too?
As a 50 year old English woman, Who’s first Dr was John Pertwee, I feel so deflated after patiently waiting a year for these episodes. My 29 year old daughter is going to give the next episode a shot, because she is hopeful that watching with her son will be their family thing as it was ours. My 23 year old son watched the first one and is now not interested. I’m very sad.
I honestly loved that they brought back David Tennant. It was fun to see him. The Bigeneration was really weird, but the 10th Doctor finally got the ending he wanted. There were a lot of things in the specials i didnt like though. The attitude they gave the doctor and telling him how he wouldnt understand because he is a "male presenting timelord". I also don't know how being non binary was important for the story. The characters gender shouldnt be important.
I agree, the gender shouldn't be important. The show was making it the whole personality of the character, instead of just one aspect of the person. So weird
@@arthurhaack618 I still remember Bi Billie, only because the showrunners wouldn't stop writing it into her lines. "Hi I'm Billie and I'm bi!" Oh! Well it's a good thing you are trapped in a cave full of Roman legionnaires who are also all gay and bi for some reason that has zero affect on the plot of the episode. Who cares? The doctor is an immortal time traveler who has evolved over the years to become the fearless and feared entity that killed the Daleks and even his own species. Part of his journey is learning how to deal with that. And yet...after Capaldi the doctor became a coward that was afraid of her own shadow while still trying to play up the girl power angle. And it just keeps getting more and more about pandering rather than good storytelling. No wonder Disney picked it up.
@@docferringer exactly. I am a part of the LGBT, but I don't tell people that when I introduce my self. Because it doesn't matter! I'm embarrassed by the shows pandering to queer people.
I suspect they kept Tennant Doctor in a form of existence, in the show, for a reason, and he will be used to reel the fans back in when 'something happens' to Gatwa Doctor, at the end of that actor's term. Their bi-generation may result in a bond that involves Tennant when it is time for Gatwa to regenerate. That's my prediction.
@@arthurhaack618Stop calling them "queer".
Russell T Davies ushered in a successful reboot of Doctor Who in 2005, partly by perfectly harnessing the nostalgia and respect of older fans, while subtlely updating the series to appeal to new viewers. His instincts in this regard have abandoned him in 2023, or maybe it's that he's had nearly 20 years of people telling him how well he handled it last time and it's blown his ego into the stratosphere to the point where he now thinks he can do no wrong.
Watching Nucti Gutwa's Doctor dancing in a nightclub at the start of a new BBC trailer, wearing a singlet and kilt and nothing much else, it's clear that RTD has lost touch with who the lead character even is, and is instead writing some generic gay rom drama that happens to have a time travelling phone box in it. His disrespect of both Doctor Who's legacy in it's 60th anniversary year, and even his own legacy within that by bringing back David Tennant's Doctor only to shit all over it, has 'belled the cat' about how he will be proceeding with Doctor Who going forward.
The only blessing is that its going to be so bad, that Doctor Who's days are now almost certainly numbered. And at this point, it deserves to be canceled again. It needs a rest, so someone new with an actual love of the I.P. can come along in a decade or two and revive it peoperly.
Sorry but i never feel that RTD had respect to the older fans. He make Sarah Jane a love interest.
RTD has right and properly fucked the Dr. Who franchise, which may never recover. I've an idea: Feed all the Classic & NuWho (minus the latest rubbish; let fans be the judge) episodes into an A.I. programme. Let it write new episodes. Hell, it can't get any worse than Chinball's and Russel Tits Davies shitfest, could it?
Its just a crossover of all his shows, and most of his stuff was about gay blokes and nightclub culture. he just merged Doctor who into it.
Brilliant post! I wholeheartedly agree! I hope someone who really loved the show rescues it years from now after it is inevitably canceled.
@glenncoody They should do exactly this with many franchises like Dr who, Star Trek, Star Wars. Maybe they will be better than anything we got since a few years.
Doctor Who gave me 10 great seasons during my childhood and teens. Those memories will never be taken away. RIP Doctor Who.
Good news! The show returns this Christmas 😎
@@operationorigins4714 no it doesn't. Whatever is coming out this Christmas is not "Doctor Who"
@@operationorigins4714
And? So what? Their viewership is department.
Not liberals like you, of course...😂😂
@@operationorigins4714
Perhaps you could have summoned all this energy to save the Marvels.
Oh well...
@@asterixandobelix195 that Marvel shite? I haven’t watched any McU project since IM3
My biggest issue with the 60th is it didn't feel like a celebration of 60 years.
More like insistence of current year.
Matt smith, david tenant and early peter capaldi were the best of the show (not including 9th because he had a short run) sadly russell decided showing everyone as equal wasnt enough and decided to ruin good storywriting to annoy us showing a narrative every single frame and somehow ruining the sonic screwdriver which i thought was impossible as its just a screwdriver every time but different so they turned it into a magic ipod which solves every problem instantly
You´re a male, you can´t comprehend. LOL
I felt like I was being sandblasted in the back while watching the new Dr who show
Thank you, an actual reasonable complaint and not one made by right-wing grifters like Nerdrotic
Capaldi was the last Doctor. RIP Doctor Who. The priceless and irreplaceable icon is truly dead.
Whitaker's era was great. The writing was original. Problem is that people whine about original, but when they get it, then its an agenda. LOL The whole Woke argument is really just bigots looking for someone else to be responsible for their bigotry. LOL I mean, Who's creator had wanted the Doctor to transform into a woman as well as many other possibilities. There were always gay characters in the show, its just that the bigot wants them to be played and shown as being straight gays. LOL
@@mikelachey824 Whitakers era was mediocre at best. Chibnall took great pleasure in ripping apart the Canon of Doctor Who and while I'll admit Jodie got a raw deal with the rubbish writing, her Doctor is very forgettable. Over 50 years of writing was flushed down the toilet in the Timeless Children. Destroyed the legacy of William Hartnell. Killed the Doctor Donna. Retconned Davros because he was in a wheelchair.
Woke took over Doctor Who and the fans just didn't deserve it.
@@mikelachey824Whitaker was an awful actor.
Peter Capaldi is a wonderful, talented actor. Dr Who is dead as a franchise.
@@mikelachey824 if you're the same person. And you reincarnate as said same person. Just looking different. You're not gonna magically turn into a gay person. It's not Bigotry. It's common sense. I'm ready for your weak arguments. Come at me.
Matt Smiths final words have been lost by RTD. Change is okay, you gotta keep moving as long as you never forget who you were. RTD has completely forgotten who the Doctor is.
"And in the years to come you might find yourself revisiting a few, but just the old favourites, ay?" - A prophecy that has come to pass and taken on an entirely new meaning. With 50 years worth of stories to enjoy, we can revisit them all. The Day of the Doctor serves as a wonderful series finale for classic Who. May it rest in peace.
that was the finale for me as well. never watched anything past it nor i intend to do
50 years of repeat viewings is fine by me.
Day of The Doctor would be an awful series finale for classic Who. Now, Death Comes To Time on the other hand was a great send off for The Doctor.
@@Zontar82The last Doctor was Capaldi. He’s an older Doctor but he’s superb in the role. His performance in Mummy On the Orient Express was sensational and it’s an all time classic. This show will never reach those standards again.
@@UnlimitedRicePudding_ I'm not familiar with it but thanks for the recommendation. TV episodes, books, comics, Big Finish and other audio dramas: there's plenty in the archive to entertain fans for decades to come (same goes for Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel and DC). All this woke content is going to age very poorly but what came before is timeless.
I was having a conversation with a normie friend of mine over the weekend and, without giving it any thought, told him “All my old fandoms have been compromised - there’s pretty much nothing left from my old favorites to enjoy.” I said it matter-of-factly, but after it came out of my mouth, it saddened me to confirm out loud that so many things I used to love - comics, Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who - have all been destroyed by people that couldn’t care less about them.
I still have Star Gate and Babylon 5, simply because nothing new for them came out in the last 10 years. I used to be saf about no new content, but now I see it as a blessing.
@@Me__Myself__and__I other than that one stargate game
@@Me__Myself__and__I farscape has become an untarnished favorite of mine, but like anything now I'd nearly riot over reboot attempts; 9/10 it's always a downgrade.
@@shanemczane6725they’re threatening to revive Farscape. It’s a Disney property now. Fortunately I still have DVDs of 1st and 2 nd season. Tragic!
Yes I feel the same. I have run out of things to watch. And enjoy. Because I have seen all these things a million times. I love them, they are great. Doctor Who, Trek, Star Wars etc. But they are not making anything new from them, that is worth seeing and nothing new that is anywhere near as good as what they were years ago. And its sad as the potential is there, they just want to use them to lecture the audience now, and not entertain. So I no longer watch any of them . I watched the first two Tennant specials and they were that bad, that preachy and that much of an F. U. to older fans like me I could not bring myself to watch the last one The Giggle. I am actually glad I missed it. And what I saw for the Christmas Trailer looks like one of the worst episodes of Doctor Who I have ever seen. A mash up of Pirates of the Caribbean and the Hobbit. With the campest Doctor ever. He is even more camp than John Inman or Kenneth Williams. I cant possibly take it seriously, its like a parody, a mockery a comic pantomime. The fact its gone from 12 million plus viewers down to 4 million in ten years....two thirds of the audience are gone and its going to get worse. I would be embarrassed if someone called to visit me on Christmas Day and I was caught watching a Doctor Who as bad as this one looks....and everyone thought Whitaker and Chibnall were bad...how is it possible to make something worse than that???? But they look to have managed it....
I'm dying when he said: "sir Isaac Newton wasn't white".
Neither was jesus 😄
@@SamuelBlack84 Neither was Hitler 😉
@@SamuelBlack84 but Martin luther King was white
Never let culture fall in the hand of activists.
ish, never let culture fall victim of metrics and performance indicators - those set by "activists"
it disgusts me seeing art being perverted by degenerates.
Again. Never again.
Never let culture fall into the hands of Communist. Yeah I know it inhales hard. RIP Dr. Who.
As if we have a say.
"By believing it, we will summon it forth"
I've never seen a Progressive put it so honestly.
And he was dead wrong too. Like most progressives about most topics. A lot of minorities see through this cheap virtue attempt and it turns everyone off. Just cheap
Belief doesn't affect reality, but sure. As the saying goes, you can ignore reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. The chickens will come home to roost.
It's a line from Seinfeld, too: "It's not a lie if you believe it!" (Pretty sure it was meant as a joke back then.)
Manifestation, explained in a sentence
@@JohnJohnson-wy6fk Minorities want to return to mud huts.
I'm not a Dr Who fan but my brother is. And he's a die-hard whovian. When I tell you he's pissed, it's the understatement of the year. My brother and I don't talk much but he's been blowing my phone up over all this like never before. I think I've talked to him more in the last couple weeks than I have in the last couple years.
I've never realized how spoiled I was becoming a whovian during Peter Capaldi's era.
I think it's because he's a true whovian, you can see that excited fanboy in him during interviews and even on set sometimes
That firey passion spread to those who worked with him and to us the audience.
Jodie tried, David didn't seem to have it much compared to his 10th doctor run, and I hope Ncuti doesn't mess it up
It's already doomed before the main series even begins, lol. Everything that defined past Doctor Who series is being defiled, and now it's just a generic sci-fi show, nothing more broo
@@Spiritasq I hated the Christmas special
I'm sorry, but you don't have much to hope for, my friend. Prepare for more garbage if you want to keep watching.
Doctor Who is dead and burried. It died with Peter Capaldi playing the last doctor.
@@GeneratorRexNerdcouldn't even watch it for 5 minutes.
5 couldn't take it for 3 minutes horrible forced messaging
What did anyone expect, RTD made it very clear the only thing that matters is pushing the ' message ' and a big FU to the fans. Add Disneys amazing ability to make endless dumpster fires, and you got such a mix so toxic it could kill people at 1000 miles 😮
Our overlords from the WEF call this "forced behaviour" but don't believe me, look it up.
And yet people kept tuning in! And they still will!
@@Wolf_ManJackyou’re not getting it. The point is that the agenda be advanced, the tools and fools who do the grunt work aren’t the decision makers. The more important point is that people are wise to the bullsht now.
“Doctor, I let you go.” Thank you, Peter. Profound words from the final Doctor.
the shows still going!
No it isn't. @@RadiuI It died with Peter Capaldi. That's my canon and I'm sticking to it.
Didn't that Doctor punch a racist and fight capitalism?
o7 Capaldi. The series should have ended after the doctor was you.
"I don't want to go" all the way back in 2010 seems profetic now, like they knew it was going downhill from there :P
Personally, I consider everything up to the introduction of Clara as canon. Things got pretty bad around that time. But even then, I wasn't too big a fan of Smith's first season, so I'd be happy to consider Tennant's final words as the end of the show.
I'm not kidding, that ending with capaldi and "rip dr who" brought a tear to my eye.
Over a decade of some of the best memories, now overshadowed by the death of the show. It's like losing someone so very dear to you. 50 years of progress to bring the very best of entertainment now has had a radioactive 💩 upon it.
When I go to watch Matt smith again, the old david Tennant episodes, the Baker and pertwee era or just any doctor who before 2017 I feel at peace, I feel comfort, I feel entertained and time well spent. Once the end credits roll, the world comes crashing down again, the knowledge that all that I have watched has been completely annihilated.
What tears me up the most is the show won't be remember that much for the 50yrs of progress. No, it will be remembered for its agonising, torturous death.
I'll say it one more time.
RIP Doctor Who
It’s not dead, a new episode came out a few days ago, a new episode is coming out in a couple of weeks! Try it, you might be pleasantly surprised
Capaldi's gravitas in that 5 second segment eclipses everything that followed it for 7 years. RIP indeed.
Nah it's remembered fondly and been hearing good things from this special
These TH-cam channels are literally the only place I've seen claim "Dr Who is ruined" all while st the same time, I've been seeing fans complain about these exact TH-cam channels
I completely agree with you. I know that there are things far worse in the world to be sad about. But this show brought so much joy to my family. We would have endless conversations about it. My kids would cosplay as characters to DragonCon in Atlanta. We were able to escape the craziness of the world, and just enjoy an imaginary story with madman in a box. And they just recklessly, killed it! Damn right, I shed a few tears! But worse, they destroyed it using one of the very best Doctors there ever was. It really is a knife in the back.😢
To your commenters replying… they must be part of the activist crowd, the 5% of the population who Might actually watch this current crap masquerading as Dr Who garbage. No! I don’t believe in intentionally marginalizing men, and straight people. Funny thing is those kinds of movies are flopping left and right, losing a ton of money too. Go throw your money at that entertainment garbage, I’ll save my money for real entertainment, not for political or ret-con crap with The Message.
Bro, why do they always fucking spoil shows and turn them into propaganda with bad writing. Like, if you want to spread your speech, MAKE ANOTHER SHOW instead of spoiling another
The point is they are too incompetent to do a show. So instead they put their propaganda in already loved stuff since they know a lot of people will check it. Not for long, since they ruin it, but that part does not matter.
@@ZenjiT_T Propaganda about what?
@@victorvanvolt8425 Artificial inclusivity, artificial diversity, and other woke nonsense. All shallow bullshit that ignores reality in favor of a twisted fantasy.
@@victorvanvolt8425cultural Marxism.
@@jeremychicken3339 What does cultural marxist wants to achieve?
I'm done with it, and I'm proud of you and AZ for walking away too. I gave up on the show in 2016 but have always kept an eye on the news, clips, reviews, etc. But no more. There is only so much you can take of your favourite show being violated and torn asunder.
Cry some more.
Lol they will be back to watch the next one. They either watch it multiple times to make these videos which is sad already, or they don’t and talk shit which is even sadder.
@@chazo1367 How's your copium doing with that 4.6 million audience number there Chaz?
You get a blip for Christmas day, and next year Ncuti is going to try and take Jodies' crown for the lowest audience ever. Can he/they/them do it? Don't tune in and find out!
As a Star Wars, Lord of the Rings enjoyer, I give my condolences to the Doctor Who community.
As a fan of all three. Doctor who was hit the hardest.
@@timeflys3248I don't watch Dr Who, but I guess so. The franchises are like three useless woke ideologues trying out-do each other.
Woke Star Wars: "This show has too many men. If you don't like my Mary Sue, then you're a sexist!"
Woke LoTR: "This show has too many white people. If you don't like my Mary Sue, and the fact that I hate white people in fantasy, then you're a racist!"
Woke Doctor Who: "Bruh, my Doctor is now an ex-woman bi-regenerated gay black man born from a penis, and we told his past white self that he knows nothing. Britain was black, and if it wasn't, then it *should* have been. The future is black and gay. Omg fans, why do you care?"
Lord of the rings is essentially untouched. Rings of power didn’t do that much damage. Star Wars and DR Who however, sheesh.
@@Red_Devil_2011 the Dr was pretty funny
Thanks, but condolences aren’t needed. I still love the show as I always have.
I love how RTD had a problem with Davros being a wheelchair user who is evil, but not with The Toymaker being a man with a thick german accent who is evil
The Toymaker's German accent is phony, he literally gets caught faking it before the Doctor first appears in the episode.
@@the_dpad tbh that doesn't really change the fact
@@itsNabezit does because it’s shown as a farce
@@deeznuts23yearsago it's poking fun at Germans ;P
It’s literally pointed out in NPH’s first scene his accent is phoney and slips. The Toymaker has adopted an accent that will be unnerving.
Your video was the exact words in my mind... English in my 3ed language and I learned it 2006 because of doctor who... And after i watch last 3 episodes I was messed up for a month... They ruined the best movie and series franchise and that's very sad...😓
What a massacre, there's nothing left behind. At least we have the classic and Nerdortic to remind us to keep fighting with our wallets.
Awesome episode Nerdortic, and keep being great.
Just bought the complete series on DVD even though i haven't seen one episode. Wanted to save it before they erased the original from memory.
Bought the 2005 series 1-4 on bluray. Will get matt Smith, maybe the first two of capaldi and get the old ones. That's all I need
@@JohnDavidSullivan TorchWood has its moments, but everyone dies! Except DW cameo/new recruit
@@JohnDavidSullivan you need Eccleston too! He left but he was a good doctor.
Excellent idea, I will do the same. I expect the British Bolshevik Corporation to destroy all episodes pre 2017, due to them containing hate speech, and being “Off MESSAGE “
@@soelvfaks1Eccleston comes with the series 1-4 collection. He's series 1.
I honestly can't believe these clips are real, they are so off the scale ridiculous it's hard to believe someone actually wrote those lines and scenes and they got made without anyone with common sense saying "this story arch is crap and the dialogue is even worse"
Oh, it's real, and I don't think anyone with common sense worked on this show. Not anymore at least. God, Donna and Rose were spewing that nonsense was just so awful.
the first special was soo cringe...right after the doctor dared to assume the aliens pronouns i knew where this is going...and i thought...how did an alien even knew what pronouns mean? and why should it care? honestly when i see nowadays tv shows like this im very happy that i got born befor 2000 so i had an innocent childhood without needing to know all this stuff...
@@igneeldreemurr3643that’s the thing about the left, they think everyone thinks like them, I guess in this case they think aliens also go along with their BS 😂
I never liked Donna anyway.
I am a real woman!! Please hire me as a writer of Doctor Who so I can make the timeless children a fever dream of Jodie Whitaker’s doctor while held captive and let’s do it all over again
i'd rather make capaldi wake up from a bad dream lol.
I thank Doctor Who for helping me get through college and some rough times in my life. Matt Smith will always be my favorite Doctor and I’m so glad he was spared. The activists can have the series now.
Me too. Bow tie is MY guy
The last doctor really. The writing after that was abysmal.
@@andreeturnet5332peter capaldi had some good moments but the show ended with him for me
Also the 12th. Say what you want about the stories, but D A M N, that doctor was FANTASTIC. I leaned a lot from him and he will always be my doctor.
10 is also a big favorite and i loved his dinamic with donna in the 4th season. He also had G O O D stories, like midnight, waters of mars, the girl in the fireplace, human nature/family of blood, etc.
But MAN, it would have been sublime that the series ended with the 12th doctor. A beautifully tragic ending, but fitting for a character like the doctor
@@akodaah13-e32 I give credit where it's due. And CAPALDI gave some of the best inspiring or maybe gut-wrenching speeches.
Truly a great actor. He just needed better stories
As a Star Wars, MCU, DCU, LotR, Witcher fan... I offer my condolences to the Doctor Who fans! 😪
Thank you. It's so painful to watch the latest episodes.
I don't accept them , I enjoyed the specials 😃👍
@@herimen3153 Honestly I feel like Tennant came back as a nostalgia bait, and the last episode should have been longer. Anyways, I take Capaldi as my last Doctor for now.
I was a fan of all these properties and this just proves Tolkien's words true "Evil doesn't create it only CORRUPTS and DESTROYS"
When ideology is more important than art/entertainment, you know that its doomed to flop terribly. To Doctor Who fans, you deserve much MUCH better & I hope something good happens in the future.
Please, just watch the Malcolm Hulke stories in the 70s for left message.
What's funny about the "ideology" vs art/entertainment...they cast a diverse black Doctor Who who represents only 3% of the British population compared to the Asian 7% and 82% white. They had already abandon the long time fan base for a female Doctor, now they usher in the era of a non-Binary Black Doctor for a production that will appeal to an even smaller demographic...all in the name of representation. Good luck with that.
How come most people have been enjoying this then?
I been watching the 60th anniversary special slowly and been enjoying it. At most there was one part that fell off but it all felt so nice.
@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0000 Quentin Tarantino was talking to Bill Maher & he said that ideology now is more important than art, individual effort, good vs evil & entertainment.
There were decades with no who. The show was dead to me when the female took over and Peters last season sucked too, which is why I respect him for leaving.
Listen, I'm a gay black man and I Loved Dr who but yeah I'm over it now. I'm glad they're more concerned about pandering rather than their loyal fans. Sad
people crying because their child hood hero doesn't resemble them anymore after decades and you are crying because the same character resembles now you ... indoctrinated much lolol.
@@MatthewBretton-cu2el............... 🥒🤏😩
@@MatthewBretton-cu2elwhy does it matter who is represented when the story is taking a hit due to it? This is the issue with the culture war, those who want ‘representation’ generally do not care about it being a quality product
@@MatthewBretton-cu2el the character, should only portray what is true to the character. if you suddenly become fake, other people also wouldnt like it.
@@MatthewBretton-cu2elu either live in america or ur terminally online that had never once enjoy a good story
As I turn 60 I grew up on Dr Who - Tom Baker era was clearly the best for me - the reboot in 2005 I thought was also very good - now its woke joke and such a pity the legacy of Dr Who has now been destroyed for future generations
The best of the drs was finished after Baker .I lost interest after that never watched it since apart from short glimpses and that was enough for me .
i lost interest when baker left the show in 85
@@Blobby192 Sorry to be a pedant, but Baker (Colin) left in 86.
@@JohnDrewDesigner- PBS channel WTTW in Chicago used to show Dr. Who on Sunday nights, after Monty Python and either Dave Allen or The Two Ronnies, back in the day.
@@JohnDrewDesigner Are you sure that reply was intended for me?
If so, I'm sorry to say that your efforts writing that post were wasted as my knowledge of the programme is encyclopaedic. And if it was intended for me, I'm genuinely perplexed as to why you didn't think I was aware of any of that information.....
Doctor Who re-invented itself after 16 years of hiatus (1989-2005) I believe this is the time to cancel it again and bring it back maybe 10-15 years later. My father grew up with the original, I grew up with 2005 Doctor Who (till 2016), and I hope my kids will have the same opportunity in 2035+
It isn't going anywhere. Ratings are still decent.
@@IllisiaAdams The ratings are exactly the same now as used to be in 1989.
Funded by UK taxpayers and now Disney. It’s not going anywhere.
fuck no
Yeah, many say the same about that in 2006.
Doctor Who died after Capaldi, his last words perfectly said it, "Doctor, I let you go". We can let him go and wonder into the night on the Tardis going off on all those endless adventures.
Doctor Who was British, geeky and for nerds? For what audience is this crap 😅
Im gonna re-watch the old good stuff. This is a insult, juvenile and dumb political nonsense. This generation of film destroys everything.
I love when they say "who cares if they are race swapped, gender swapped, gay, trans, etc?" They are the ones that care so much, they are so completely obsessed with identity politics they will crash entire brands and companies to push their obsession. They can't look at a person without seeing nothing but race, gender, sexual identity, etc.
I don't know, I might enjoy Hitler as a vlack man, or "gasp" Trans man. That certainly would seem to fit how they act. Trans, not black. The black man thing would be for the irony of it all.
It’s all for the removal of the past hero’s and role models. To normalise the narcissists, the hedonists, the perverse. When everything is removed and replaced then everything will be “normal” .
@@Docktavion Or maybe when people get exposed to this kind of stuff, they might eventually think not to call something narcissistic, hedonistic or perverse just because they don't understand it.
Also, the current race-swapping is only pale-skinned to diverse, never the other way around. So much for 'blind casting', we know it's for diversity and inclusion.
@@fantalone666 that’s true, look at the insistence of calling everyone “far right, nazis, sexist, phobic, misogynist, anti-vax, anti-science etc.etc”. They are all buzz words with no substance, you ask them to explain what they mean and you get mental/cognitive dissidence as they have no clue.
How prophetic was it that the 12th Doctor's last words were, "Doctor, I let you go." 😢
Oh well, I have a lot of the original Doctor Who on DVD or Blu-Ray, and all of the modern Who through Capaldi (not all the 12th Doctor was woke or bad) on Blu-Ray. That's how I will choose to remember the show.
For me the prophetic/4th wall breaking line was "I don't want to do this anymore" uttered by old guy companion in the Rosa Parks episode. Me either buddy...me either...
Capaldi is where the collapse began, but you're right, not all of it was bad. I liked the Clara arc, and the episode after her death is probably one of the best episodes of Dr. Who ever produced period.
Capaldi's doctor had some really bad moments but I also think it may have had the best moments as well. It was such an up and down. The Zygone war speech from Capaldi may arguably be the best moment in the whole show. Him trapped in the confession dial I personally think was one of the most simple sequences in the show but also one of the most well written and emotional when the reveal happens.
@@shadoukingu3730 Agreed on all points.
"Heaven Sent" was an awesome episode with a simple premise that really paid off. Hell Bent was a good follow-up to it.
I remember how incredibly powerful Capaldi's "I WILL NOT CHANGE" was, as he fought his regeneration by pounding into the snow. Looking back on that, you could kind of use that moment as foreshadowing....
Indeed! he was right all along XD
My headcanon is that he was the final Doctor
@@popot4627Same here.
Dude in the video labelled his run as "Diminishing returns", utter slander against a legendary Doctor.
@@popot4627 It's not your headcanon, it's the official Doctor Who canon.
Timelords can only regenerate 12 times, making 13 in total, meaning Capaldi WAS the last doctor, and no retconning will change what the creators of the show intended.
Yea it is sad indeed. Canonically for me, I have The Husband of River Song as my ending. Or if I’m feeling a sad ending, The Doctor Falls where the Doctor says “Pity, No stars. I thought there would be stars…” and stop it there as his final act of heroism.
For me DW ended after capaldis speach, we cut to his regeneration and it intensifies, obscuring his face as the show ends
Oh, the stunned silence in that theater when Tom Baker's voice boomed from off screen. A pin drop would have sounded deafening. Truly a moment in time now lost like tears in the rain. RIP Doctor Who.
Great reference 👌
Wow.. that wasn't a parody. That whole thing about "binary" and "pronouns" was seriously part of the script. May God help us all.
That was a parody.
I can't believe TH-camrs still take critics seriously!
God doesn't care about television. Don't be silly.
@@mistafay If that was all parody then I'm impressed. They did a hell of a CGI job with that whole "are you he, she or they?" Looked SO REAL!!
@@IllisiaAdams I was speaking to the degenerate level of entertainment which reflects the culture of our civilization, which history has shown leads to well.. look it up! In any event. God help us all from THAT, which sadly I fear it's too late.
Nerdrotic does not have CGI elves to do parodies, this is from the actual show. Welcome to the future old man
Dr Who fans did NOT deserve to be treated like this. I mean, out of all the vandalized fandoms, this one really hurts to watch happen.
Can we talk about the Rings of Power over some 100 proof cocktails.
This one was particularly egregious..
I loved this show, I’m gonna miss the days we’re I was excited to watch it.
@@cherryfireice8216That was atrocious.
We don't talk about the ring of power.
We don't think about the ring of power
The ring of power doesn't exist.
@@cherryfireice8216 the rings of power is to lord of the rings what the starving games is to the hunger games. spinoff parody
Honestly, the real problem for the show is that it seems to be playing more to an American audience, and the general dumbing down of certain things in the series. Disney? There is a great chance that it will ruin the show... I said what I said... I love the show, but weep for the Americanisation of it.
The worst part is, most of the American Audience doesn't want this either. We already watched this happen to starwars and startrek and Marvel studios. I mostly watch youtube now when I was an avid movie and tv watcher in the past. My 1st reaction to the end of the female doctor was hope it might get better. Then I started hearing quotes from interviews about the new doctor and that hope died.
We know history isn't to our liking, so by lying we can summon forth a new better society. The arrogance with a dollop of self righteousness that these people possess is extremely annoying.
I remember a time when looking at the history, even or especially the ugly stuff was held in high regards. Looking at facts, learning from mistakes. I kind of like this idea to be frank.
Showing history not how it was but how you would like it is a dangerous path, because everyone has a different idea of what it "should" be. That is also an insult to the actual humans who did great things if you miss represent them. Imagine showing the "I have a dream" speech and having a white actor do it. Doesn't feel right. Similarly showing a historical figure that was white as a person of color just doesn't feel right. Facts should not be changed.
Especially since I think showing it and talking in a respectful way how you could improve things has way more meaning then showing something wrong and claiming that's how it should be.
If you censor history, then you ignore its lessons and will inevitably repeat past mistakes
The timeless child causes so many plot wholes and writing issues it amazes me they don’t just act like it never happened and move on. It completely removes all tension from any scene where the doctor could die. Undoes the 11th doctors final episode(that being that he only has one life left and will spend it defending trenzalore) and so much more. It is the “jump the shark” moment of Dr. Who and as long as it’s canon it will forever harm the brand of Dr who
Well it WAS the Jumping the shark moment, unti bi-generation happened. Now according to RTD every past doctors regeneration became bi-generation and the old doctors didnt die as the new ones appeared, and all past canon is now set loose and undefined.
Chibnall changed canon back to the first minute of the show in 1963 and damaged it beyond repair. RTD has erased canon, completely, now only head canon matters and each viewer can make up whatever they want.
I dont think theres any way to come back from that.
Yep, it removes tension, and it removes the reward of the Doctor cheating his way out with bonus regenerations from the Timelords or something. The Bi-generation also removes the bittersweet goodbye of a Doctor and the surprise and time to shine for the new one.
Can't the doctor still die? Like The doctor could still be killed mid-generation and killed off. It was the over arching plot point of a whole season(6?). unless I missed something from the new series in which case I'm sorry.
@@lesigh1749 when did he say that every past regeneration was a bi-regeneration, i hope he didnt because otherwise that would be a major fuckup
@flakeomlet he only said it was his head canon, but it's not actual canon
Doctor Who holds a special place in my heart. It got me through a lot of hard times, and I’ll still watch the entire catalogue of old episodes, but I’ll not watch moving forward… I can’t. Even though I knew it was going to happen, I still watched and it broke my heart. I’m done.
We know everything. And you know nothing. RIP Donna Noble, the chaotic and awesome temp.
I stood in front of a statue depicting a great hero. He was a legendary hero, greater than life, and I remember being awestruck by the greatness the statue managed to exert. But when I looked at it, I saw that the statue had been vandalized. Some cruel hands had chiseled, painted, and bent the statue until it was unrecognizable. I began to weep, and a child asked me why I was crying. I told the child it was because of the statue. Such a great and noble thing had been destroyed, and it saddened me. The child asked me why would such a thing upset me. It is but a statue after all. And I told the child that it represented such great and beautiful things, greater and more beautiful than anyone could imagine, and now no one will experience it ever again. And the child will never get the chance to glimpse it either.
What you have written there is so beautiful.
The child will never understand the importance of this metaphorical statue, nor the statues of real people getting torn down in the name of progress all over the west.
Wonderful text there. Summarizes what the woke cultural barbarians have done. Erased our cultural past and ruined our present and future.
" Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert.
Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies,"
- Ozymandias by P. B. Shelley
As a US fan that spent time and money to go to the doctor who experience I am so sad to see how far this show has fallen
Or you change.
Not a Dr. Who fan, but I can empathize. I can so empathize.
Motorized wheelchair does not necessarily mean better wheelchair. When your upper half works, you tend to want to use it. Maybe I’m just being woke
Capaldi was the last doctor, and all this time we had been in denial, if they want to do something different I would be happy to watch "Clara and me in the restaurant at the end of the universe"
Notice how every doctor after Capaldi, had good memory after regenereating.... I say they are a figment of his imagination and he's really in a coma or something.
I liked the 60th Anniversary Specials… but I’d still watch the hell out of this. I miss Clara and 12.
How I HONOR You! Jodie Whittaker was a poor Doctor not because she was a woman, but because she couldn't portray Doctor's character. Unfortunately, with her came the degeneration of the brand. And the rotten cherry on top of this cake made of expired cream, Surströmming and Hakarl is that they made yeast out of the Doctor. And why? Well, because yeast reproduces by partitioning. So, as the classic said: "Silence over that coffin."
I don't discredit you but Capaldi was hated on his debut too.
There is only 12 Doctors. Capaldi is the last. They can enjoy their fan fiction.
13
All the more bloodboiling to think about the fact that russel T Davies COULD write amazing Doctor Who stories, he just chose not to
The problem with calling yourself "Progressive" is every time you achieve a goal, you then have to find a new goal and proceed to once again beat the rest of us to death with it. They will insist on taking us down no end of weird backwaters, and if they have their way this "progress" will be unending.
You know what is wanted? More
That's neoliberal, not progressive
The goal has never changed. Social justice and representation for all.
@@olican101 Nothing vague or open-ended about that.
Yes, better things for everyone is better for everyone.
Maybe gatekeeping wasn't about discriminating against people for things they can't control. Maybe it was about protecting the integrity of the franchise after all...
@@neutraliserjanine Stephanie Meyer? You do realize how many people mock the Twilight series right?
The only ones complaining about Gatekeeping being bad are the ones the gate is supposed to keep OUT.
@@zerosen1972 It's not about keeping women and minorities out right? It's about keeping those who destroy good stories out.
@@neutraliserjanine There can be people of diverse in the back ground without being main characters. So basically anyone that isn't white needs to be background characters. Okay...
@@claytonrios1They use women and non-whites as trojan horses to infiltrate and destroy it from within.
Women in general only try to infiltrate make spaces to make them arbor themselves and keep their gynocentric gritty going, because if men have their own spaces and hobbies, they might realize they have a right to exist for their own sake and not merely for the sake of women.
I keep wishing we ended with Capaldi's run. He have the best version of the ancient time lord following on from Matt Smith holding that same vibe hidden under a childish mask.
In Capaldi's last episode I could feel how tired the time lord was, just wanting to finally stop after over a millennia of running, but "one more lifetime couldn't hurt".
After that they needed to bring their A game, that episode could have been a perfect send of for the show in my eyes so they needed to make the future season perfect to earn the right to keep going on. Instead they dragged it all through the mud, burning the fans, destroying the characters and tainting my favourite send off with their filth.
Losing Star Wars was painful, but nothing they have done has felt like such an assault as this.
Fans: "Well congrats yourself, Russell. You not only ruin your own legacy and respect, but also lost your well established fans and embarrassed David. All because of the agenda you think you believe in to pander to a group of people that don't care or won't watch. Was it worth it?"
Russell T. Davies:....."Yes." 😁
Casa Bonita South Park reference?
It isn't like Davies hasn't done this in the past, its just turned it up to 11 for the New Nu Who reboot. I assume it will chill at a bit as the new series begins.
Most of the well established fans that were even still around were out when the Timeless Child happened, but if any were still hanging on, they're gone now.
Don't think Tennant has been unknowingly embarrassed, he's fully on board with this shit. I thought those 2 guys were the ones to respect the series' past the most, it's a shame what they've become. I'll still enjoy what has been done in the past but now I've lost all respect for them
@@orchNEStra I was out when Tennent left, never watched another episode.
Recently I've been rewatching Doctor Who, the early 2000's. All the way until season 12, is where it ends for me. I don't give a flying frog's ass for Jodie Wickeder. So I am inclined to enjoy my beloved 9-12 Doctors.
Screw the modern agenda
Think about it... only 5.08 million people watched this show. We're talking about the return of the most popular modern Doctor, David Tennant, and 2/3 of his original audience didn't even show up. More than 100,000 hated it so much, they wrote angry letters to the BBC. By the third special, 400,000 couldn't be bothered to watch the regeneration episode to see the new Doctor. And Davies mentioned that MILLIONS were being poured into this new Doctor Who, "more money than he has ever had to work with." You're going to pour millions more into something, you're going to expect a BIGGER return than before... but nope, it fizzled. And it is ONLY downhill from here. There is ZERO hype right now.
In the same way Disney doesn’t fork out $250-300M on a movie just to break even, the BBC didn’t bring Catherine Tate, David Tennant and RTD back just to get 5M overnight viewers.
you seem to be forgetting that most viewers now watch via streaming services. that 5.08 million ONLY includes live tv from bb1, not including iplayer, disney plus or any other services that stream doctor who to their country.
Every time someone mentions David Tennant I will mention that he sucked as the Doctor. *R.I.P. Doctor Who (1963 - 1989).*
@@KoizumiASMR The streaming doesn't matter because it's being compared to the British audience numbers that other Doctors had. For example, when Jodie was Doctor and had similar numbers, the media reported it as being low viewership. And let's note that after Jodie, because of the low viewership, the show was actually going to be canceled until RTD stepped in. Plus, Doctor Who is a beloved British institution, and I for one would have expected a bigger surge there for the return of the most popular NuWho Doctor.
@@marychocolatefairy Once again, streaming wasnt as popular back then even in jodies time people still mostly watched it live on tv and not streamed. With the disney+ deal a very large chunk of people have moved to streaming.
I'm not a Dr. Who fan personally, but as a fan of other similarly murdered franchises, you in the Dr.Who fandom have my sympathy and condolences.
I've heard it argued that Dr.Who died the worst death of all the violated franchises, to which I was initially skeptical, but after what I've heard about these Specials and the look at the new season, I think agree.
I don't know if Dr. Who is the worst murdered/plundered franchise...
Amazon's Wheel of Prime (Time) is a complete perversion of the original books... and "oddly" enough... it's another show run by a... person like Chibnal and Davies.
Really? Is the same RTD as the 2005 show. Never change.
@@Nyet-Zdyes Wheel of Time is one I know almost nothing about, the book or the show, other than the show is terrible. But I thought Shad or Disperu said the author had no control over the show, he made suggestions and Amazon just ignored him. That's what I imagine must really sting the Who fans, having a celebrated former head of the show (2nd best thing to the creator) return, not to save it, but to put the final nail in the coffin, and personally join in on attacking the fans online. Brutal.
Doctor who was once a show that even a few years ago gave us magnificent commentary, or at least solid commentary, that most folks could support. I think specifically of a moment during Peter Capaldi's reign where he gives a magnificent monolog on the idea that, "War sucks, don't go to war if it can be avoided. If you use your brain, it can always be avoided." We went from that to, in the span of about two years, a badly written alternative history magic schoolbus.
The villain in that episode I mentioned was the greater concept of War itself. One of Jodie Whittaker's earliest episodes, the villain was a time traveling Neo-Nazi who's entire goal was to prevent Rosa Parks from ever even getting on the bus. That same episode featured Doctor King, and he had barely 6 lines and was irrelevant to any of the actual plot. Jodie could have been awesome. She was a decent actress. She was given absolute crap to work with though.
@SaraLanc3 Please, the Third Doctor era feel woke now.
"Emotional baggage" Really?!! That's why I love the doctor. A person that has lived for the longest time, with vastly more experience and knowledge than his adversaries and supporters, all the loss, grief and mistakes he made, he has to live with all that and keep moving forward because he understands that if he stops, evil wins. "Emotional baggage"
And that is true Message lost on these fools now days. You cannot just drop your past, the pain, the trauma.
You learn to live with and keep moving forward, you find a way to use it to motivate you, to empower you, to make you better.
But these current fools think you can only wallow in it or forget it.
That is not how people work, and those who do function that way are broken people who need to fix themselves instead of "fixing" the world around them.
That's their way of saying "Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to." :/
Yeah- what these current "identity first!" writers fail to understand is that most people don't relate to characters based on color shades or sexuality, but rather based on the characters' actions and experiences.
not only have they killed it they now have goblins dancing on the grave....
I started watching with Eccleston and I only watched it because my brother wanted to watch it when it started lol, but I grew to love it and I laughed and cried with each regeneration and I loved every moment the doctor was brilliant and smart and remembered something that could help save the day. The companions had great and different personalities and they helped as best they could too. When Jodie came... Even from her first episode, I never saw her get a moment. With previous gens, there was always this moment in the new doctor's first episode where you knew it was the doctor coming back but with a new face, but with Jodie, I never got that, and it never came. This has just spiraled and gone out of control.
I could rant on and on but I've already done that enough. the TL;Dr of it is, Capaldi was right with his final words. "Doctor, I let you go."
In Doctor Who you can tell a character is brilliant or beautiful because the script will mention it no less than 30 times a minute
Doctor What, as in “What the hell are we supposed to like about seeing everything be destroyed before our eyes?”
Doctor Why, as in “Why would they do this?”
Doctor How, as in “How could they do this to us?”
Doctor Where, as in “Where will the wokies go next?”
GAY POLITICAL ACTIVISM is the reason and the desire to screw everything up for the other people who did enjoy the show just to be a bi(ch ....you can see it in the producers eyes and mannerisms in every interview and whenever he talks about the show
It will be cancelled within one season. The fans are gone, the "modern audience" is a myth, and will not watch the show. I hope it was worth it for that sweet DEI score from Blackrock...
Do people still watch it? I know people who used to watch it a lot, but I didn't know that there was still people bothering with it..
many Native Britons and Irish have been raised to be "open-minded", "tolerant", and passive. The result is our own imminent extinction
Don't forget altruism, it's being used against you
Bingo. Happened when the EEC became the EU and kids were told they were European not Irish.
well...they did convince you that you saved the world twice...at least we're not speaking German
It´s so infuriating to see the DELIGHT these hacks take in destroying something people love just out of spite
Yes they love it, they enjoy our pain and suffering. They are cultural trolls.
@@pinball8701What an absolute drama queen. It's a show get over yourself 😂😂😂😂😂
@@keiranoshea6748 It is important. RTD has said that it's important to him. Don't pretend it's trivial. If it were so trivial why would they bother doing it? And RTD does enjoy fan baiting i.e. trolling- it's pretty clear from the interviews, old chap.
Me: Never watched an episode of Dr Who in my life.
Also me: Watches every Nerdrotick episode on Dr Who. Feels like the end of a series.
Lol I'm sad for everyone who watches this channel. Every British Doctor Who fan I personally know loved every episode. 10/10. I'm kinda glad Americans hated them. Thank you Disney.
Same here
Believe me, DW was brilliant, but ever since 13's era the canon has been getting more and more screwed each year.
I don't think many people realise that Doctor Who doesn't really have what you call "canon". The irony!
It was really good until Capaldi when it became just okay in his run, then complete liquid shit at Whittaker
As a Tolkien fan i feel your pain whovians
So many classics destroyed lately, it's unbelievable.
Let us rejoice in the fond memories of the past and only show our children the good versions.
Don't let these people's recklessness take away your joy in good writing. Even if it is only available in the past.
It’s called demoralization. It only works if you keep giving money to people you hate, so they can keep doing it.
Like when they fight fascism and racism in basically every sci-fi or fantasy series?
I'm not even going to begin describe how f**king jaw-dropping that Bi-generation scene was.
There were so many levels of what-the-fuckery!💀
A buddy of mine was obsessed with Who for the longest time, he's not a culture war kind of guy, he doesn't care. But he dipped halfway through Capaldis run and never looked back. It's kind of pathetic how it lost such a huge fan like him.
I gave up at Matt Smith, honestly.
I was such a big fan that I got a Doctor Who tattoo to celebrate the 50th anniversary but pretty much dipped out during the Capaldi era as well when I got tired of watching the doctor be belittled and constantly being told that his companion was a lesbian. I haven't been able to keep myself from paying attention to what happens with the show though and I couldnt help but watch the David Tennant episodes but I have no desire to watch it anymore.
this mistake will be bigger than you think.... I hear Star Wars fans saying "welcome to our world"
Fans of Star Wars, Star Trek, LOTRs, Terminator, GOTs, Witcher, MCU, Pixar, Disney... we are gathered here to pay our respects to Dr Who.
Doctor Who has been dead for like a decade bro, keep up lol.
@@outersketcher2237Yeah, Snyder totally ruined Batman. Good thing Matt Reeves saved it recently!
F
Star Trek? Seriously? I guess you must have been outraged when Uhura (who wasn't a maid either) kissed Kirk, when Jadzia kissed another woman, when there was a Russian and a Japanese serving as officers on the Enterprise, when they criticised racism in Let That Be Your Last Battlefield, when... My point is that Star Trek and hell, all these others franchises, have always been against bigotery and fascism.
God bless you. Very nice sentiment. We appreciate it and return our condolences in-kind to everyones persinal favorite franchises.
:sigh: I grew up watching Dr Who, mostly Pertwee and Baker. I even illustrated a fan magazine at high school (in the 80s when started going downhill). I adored the new incarnations of the Doctor. I loved Captain Jack Harkness... but they decided to make the Doctor a job position rather than a character... something that needed to be filled by every race and gender. The Doctors character was ALWAYS male and paternal, that was who he was, Humanity's Dad... no more.
The Doctor was never a formidable character because he was male... he was a formidable character because he expected the same things from Humanity that a father would from a child. He didn't provide succour and comfort.... he judged and rewarded our actions... he provided information, advice and expressed disappointment when humanity succumbed to its baser instincts.
If the Doctor was *always* paternal, why did Sydney Newman consider casting a female Doctor? The 'fans' make these conditions, not the writers. It's a tv show & people have always taken it far too seriously. The fact is it started to lose its way as far back as the Tom Baker years. The objections to modern day Doctor Who are generational, 50 somethings aren't supposed to like it, it's not for us.
I hated the BBC incarnation of Auf Wiedersehen Pet, I didn't watch it as a result. It's simple, if you don't like it, stop watching it. It's a tv show & nothing more, these attacks on it are just part of the depressing Right Wing mire this wretched country finds itself in. Whinging gammons who should be worried about important things & not kids tv that they ought to have grown out of decades ago.
@@dobr4481 The Doctor was always paternal... because he was always paternal. It's just a fact of his character. He is that way because he was always written that way, it's called an identity. That is his identity, always was. Consistency in ones characteristics is what we call good characterization. Characters can change, but that change has to be earned and make sense for the character.
Bad writing and bad characterization are just bad. You don't have to run interference for these dullards (FOR FREE might I add) just because you agree with them about some irrelevant policy you have no actual control over anyway.
If the bad writing was propping up some ridiculous right wing ideology... WE WOULD STILL BE HERE saying it's bad!
But... where is all the fiction propping up right wing ideology? Hmm, I wonder where it could be... could it be that the people holding power over platforms and what gets made in the industry only allow works which tow the ideological line to be made? Do you not think a monoculture in fiction is a problem? What about plurality? Diversity?
By the way... "kids tv" is more important than most laws, most politicians, and most policy. This media uniquely shapes future generations, that's why ideologues have captured it: precisely because it IS so important.
In the name of the father the son and the Holy Spirit amen. Peace be with you. Ladies and Gentlemen we are gathered here today to celebrate the life and legacy of Dr. Who. If anybody else like to say a few words about the deceased please step forward.
i would. would everyone just stop talking about him please. just keep the good memories in your heart. and let him go to that tardis in the sky
Thank you Doctor Who for helping me survive the most abused time of my life. For giving me something to live for and helping me see I am important.
I have some words: IT AIN'T DEAD.
@@IllisiaAdams quit fooling yourself its well and truly dead ... its called the mourning process your going through 1st stage is denial once you relise this you will see the truth and accept the fact its a rotting corpse of a show
The Doctor was part of my best memories that I have with my family.
I would love to talk more about this, but it would literally fill several pages.
This new Doctor's characterization as described by Screen Rant is absolutely horrendous. That is NOT the Doctor; it's an ersatz-Doctor!
The Doctor is supposed to be brilliant -- he is a homage to one of the greatest fictional heroes of all time, Sherlock Holmes (my *favorite* fictional character)!
He is supposed to be occasionally the arrogant and insufferable know-it-all.
He is one of the most powerful entities in the universe because of his vast intelligence, knowledge and wisdom.
His delight is in being compassionate and willing to share with others the mysteries and wonders of time and space.
And he has ALWAYS was willing to learn and react to the unknown. That is *why* he travels!
So, I wish Ncuti Gatwa the best. But I do not believe if he will be a great Doctor.
I would like to have them to prove this middle-age African American who has been with show since the 1980s wrong, but I do not think this going to happen.
I have my all of the seasons of New Who up to the Capaldi era and a few of Classic Who episodes. I will always enjoy and cherish those episodes.
And since, the BBC and their ilk is saying this show is not for me anymore ...then fuck this noise. I'm out.
I tried to make it through the Whittaker Dr 2 x before I gave up. If you want to show that women aren't less, don't make them the stupidest version.
I am a New Who convert! I'd barely heard of it before then. (American.) But I fell in love with it just about instantly, from the first few scenes. Nine was my Doctor. I adored this show. To see what they have done to it has broken my heart. Truly. I can't even imagine how it must be for long time fans who grew up with the Classic Era. (Which I have been enjoying via Britbox.)
I refused to watch any of these specials. I am just seeing these clips through various reviews. I forced myself to watch them just to make sure I saw for myself, instead of just taking the word of others. I cannot believe the drivel I am hearing these characters speak. Nor would I have believed that RTD Davros comment if I had not heard it directly from him.
4:45 Oh, wow! That is a real quote from Moffat?! They were ADMITTING they were intentionally making up black people in history where there weren't actually? They... admitted it?! I'd never seen that! Nor had I seen the other one about only homosexuals being allowed to portray homosexuals. How stupid is that?!
Wait, did they say for sure that the Doctor is a homosexual now?! What in the BLAZES was that clip of him dancing with a skirt on!
I think this is the first time watching your channel. Thanks for the clips and rundown. I refused to watch any of the specials. (As much as I adored this show.) I knew it would be bad. But, wow, it was so much worse than I thought.
I loved this show. This makes me so very sad. They destroyed Star Wars. They destroyed Indian Jones. Now this.
It's called a kilt. You know celebrating him being Scottish 🙄
@@campbell93jcThe Doctor is Scottish? Weird...I was pretty sure he was Gallifreyan.
@@frocat5163 He's been Scottish more than he's been anything, and hes not even Gallifreyan anymore :(
Yeah they admitted to inserting black people into parts of history were they weren't and pretending it's accurate. It's some weird white liberal low of thinking minorities need white handouts.
Donna: “It’s a shame you’re not a woman anymore, cos she’d have understood.”
The whole audience looking at “Rose” : well, neither is he, so….? 😂😂😂
Gotta just get a little bit of transphobia in there haven't you...
@@sem-zs3nl”say hello to captain winky” Ace Ventura
@sem-zs3nl Ah, yes, transphobia. A made up word, created by fake men and woman in an effort to insult the mentally stable in an effort to bring about compliance. A phobia, on the other, actually is a mental health issue, and that would make you an Abliest. Insensitive to those who actually suffer from phobias.
@@sem-zs3nl Well by definition... No Rose is not a woman. A woman is (according to Oxford Languages definition) of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes.
@@sem-zs3nl lol, phobia? No one is scared of a 25 year old man masquerading as a 15 year old girl 🤣
Hollywood is dying as a whole.
And that’s a good thing
True, but it’s been like that for a while tho…
Good riddance
Yes. We began to get a hint of it a few years ago when all of the awards programs began to have uneducated actors trying to school us on politics during their speeches. Slowly films had to have a woke bent to be noticed. Finally the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences put a rule in that to be eligible for an award, films would have to meet their percentage of every minority and diversity possible. No diversity to meet their demands, which had nothing to do with art, no award. Now, any film that is eligible for an award, isn't worth watching. It is propaganda rather than art. Thankfully I can find thousands of older movies and TV shows that are excellent and are artistic ... or at least entertaining when that's what my brain needs.
Its been dead, the whole thing is in zombie mode.
2:56 i can understand the dr recognizing aliens may not hold the same gendered terms but i do feel like there was stuff they threw in that felt out of place and just there to be there.
As a former star wars fan all I can say to the Whovians is...I am so sorry for your loss
Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who. We have nothing left. 😭
Great time to pick up a hobby while Hollywood drowns.
Thank you from our hearts to yours
@@carolinetaylor5594And Lord of the Rings too 😭
@@romanticrose6822 yes very true.
It is sad to see identity politics be thrown into fans' faces, and none of it is clever but just cringe. RIP
The 50th anniversary special can be seen as a nice book ending to the entire franchise.
The 11th Doctor saving Gallifrey with the help of his past selves and he will now go back home through the longest path. No need for more episodes after that one.
Dr.who rest in peace 1963-2024.
Safe to shave a couple years off that number...