Max is right. I will go one further and I say that Lando will never be WDC. If Lando had any balls in him, he wouldn`t let the event in Hungary happen.
agree, i was thinking about this too lately, looks like he will never be a champ, i think if mclaren had the fastest car for the whole 2025, oscar could beat him even if he is slower in a pure pace
I think Lando needs to crash Max a couple of times when Max shuts the door. Not intentionally, but not backing out. It's harsh, I know, but if you're known for always giving room, avoiding physical contact,... You just don't have that ruthlessness needed to do anything to win WDC. Let's be frank. Lando will not win WDC this year. So he should act accordingly in the remaining races.
@@alpha007org agree, i think in mexico turn 4-5 he should do what max did in monza turn 1-2 in 2021, not letting max to push him off and go to turn 5 anyway
Im a fan of this aggression. Opponent has a faster car? Become a brick wall, penalties and all. Not only is it helping his championship, its far more entertaining for us than letting Lando pass. Keep it up Max. 2 points to add: The idea from Hill that Max cant race fairly is laughable. Theres no fair play award in F1. Max knows the risk and so far its paying off. Why should he race fairly against a guy whos 30 sec faster? To lose? Good one Damon. Also, seeing some talk about hypocrisy from Max that when he gets raced hard he complains. If you ever played competitive sport, that is the game and is normal. If you expect a driver to not complain about things done to him, you probably think letting your opponent win is a good idea too 🤣
Agree, people can have different attitude to it, but he will be champion that's what ut is about, and that's what we want to see so many years people were complaining on drs passes on straights, now they don't like max, so what do they need
Yes, totally agree, some wanna race only when they have the best car and with Max that is simply not going to happen. When he races he adapts to real life situations. Many of us love this brilliance and passion
Way too much fuss for a fight. People and also the FIA today don't know the real racing duels anymore, they never saw one, too young. If you want to find an example of a real racing duel, look up the duel on TH-cam between René Arnoux and Gilles Villeneuve in the GP France at Dijon in 1979. Without any intervention from the organization. Only Max and Fernando are still of that caliber, the rest are wimps. Do you want to see a locomotive with wagons, like Lewis behind Georges for 15 laps? Stop whining, up to the next race.
The English are only happy when Lewis is on pole, Lando second and George third and do not fight eachother and Lewis finished first, Lando second and George third!
@@51bikerboy You are right, they better make a British F1 championship, than driving in a F1 world championship, with real drivers and fighters. Like I already said, the real English talented fair play F1 drivers are all buried (Stirling Moss, Jim Clark, James Hunt,...) and even they had their quicker foreigner opponent except Jim Clark, Moss had Fangio, Hunt had Lauda, Mansell had Senna. A lot of British drivers would never reach the F1 is they were not British. So Max is right when he says "I have the wrong passport"
Been watching F1 since 1978 and I 100% Agree with you... Too many Snowflakes that melt when things don't go there way but then again The Brits aren't known for winning fair fights througout history 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was thinking the same thing myself yesterday. The French grand prix in 79 is a great example of the racing spirit. We can't destroy the racing spirit. To be a racing driver you have to go for the gap and push the rules and regulations no matter how unclear they are.
@@christopherhambleton9701 In case of a racing duel, you have to make the rules as simple as possible, to avoid discussions. For me being 55 years in motorsport, the rule must be “You will punished if you deliberately drive into the other car” like Schumacher did with Damon Hill and Jacques Villeneuve, but as long as you didn’t touch the other car deliberately, it is not punishable.
No one cries more than Stappen😂😂😂 Just because they don’t drive like tossers doesn’t mean they won’t win championships And they will be respected for it far more Sad doing Senna Schumacher impressions At least Norris is being himself
Yes, British Bias is really a thing and F1 is almost dictated by the English tabloid press. BUT both Cam and PW are not bad at all, they are my favorites :). Yesterday Cam spoke with those 2 clowns in the podcast that was quite bad, not more then average pub talk. I compliment Cameron on his purity when it comes to F1 and so of course Peter. That Aussie bloke is also good btw.
You should see how the British press hammer a lot of our own athletes Jesus Christ. The most Verstappen has had is criticism for driving dirty. Alonso got his teammate to crash into a wall and sky still kiss his arse. They’re much better mates with a lot of the British pundits than guys like Hamilton etc so it makes no sense
Bias is a joke its been said the why it is max uses all the road and pushes people off he did it to Hamilton shit loads of time max is dangerous and i said it so
Windsor gives Charles the credit , hell yeah he was on fire in recent form and races. Yes, Max is different from most of the drivers so they will never see what Max or MSC would see in that car.
Indeed, Max knows he has an absolute dog of a car and he tried to hinder Lando. It's Lando's job to try and avoid it by going in as hard as Max did. Which he kind of did.
The britis bias is overwhelming and the evident is there , the commentators are british , the presenters are british , the bloody analysts are british even though they might say they are not bias its happens subconsciously , we need more diversity in F1 media cause its a INTERNATIONAL sport , you watch races and notice how unenthusiastic Brundle and Crofty get when a brit isnt leading a race they completely ignore the leader , Charles in Monza and Austin and even Sainz in Mexico its so bloody annoying and I'm not talking about Sky here im talking about F1 MEDIA in general Edit : To those saying I should watch another broadcast , Im from south africa lol we get what we get and what we get is all the british bs media which is F1 centric media
In Germany the broadcasters, commentators and presenters are not British, they are German. ...... and yes, they have just as much 'bias' towards German drivers. The problem isn't 'bias' the problem is that the British broadcast is used as the international broadcast in a lot of places. It's the same in many places, the Italian broadcast is very Ferrari focused because that's what their viewers are interested in. I do think maybe that there needs to be more local broadcasters involved.
Its just that sky is incharge of the world feed, but lets not pretend the dutch, italian etc media arent biased aswell. Maybe the world feed needs a revamp but unless someone outbids sky then yeah. Stuck with them
Just like Lewis! He was lucky that the other teams where no competition because they had 20% less power! Only Rosberg could beat him because he had the same engine!
@@51bikerboyIf you really believe that, why did Rosberg only beat him once in equal machinery? Are neither championship material then? Or how aboutAlonso, who was beaten by Lewis in equal machinery at McLaren? 🤡
Media and all drivers attitude is so lame max is the generational GEM i absolutly love everyrhing about him AS a driver hes just pure cold intelligent savage driver ... Even after race when everybody think that he pjshed lando BC emktions it was jest pure calculation before the race ... Car is too slow ? Lets make i will do everything i could to make max pointe of the race i he just did it ! Monster The only reason they hate him is BC they cant beat him easily !
In old school racing they were very tough but equally fair, leaving enough room (even if only by a millimetre) for the other driver to attempt the overtake. Max does not do that.
@@Jordyrugby Senna Prost, anyone? You either are too young to have watched this live, or too old to remember (it factually. Basically: "let's glorify the past").
@@Jordyrugby uhm no, no they were not. I meran the whole reason we say that "when you pass on the outside, you put yourself on the penaltystip", is because this is out of old skool racing. Dont do it, only if you are truly certain - cause you will get pushed off
@@Jordyrugby So you haven't seen Senna & Prost racing? Did you know a guy named Schumacher is the first 7 time WDC? Did you see how he won those? Have you heard from a little situation going by the monniker "crash gate" I'm pretty sure you haven't, because if you had... You wouldn't even know what all the fuss is about.
Max and fans have noticed that Lando has essentially given up on racing Max. Just throw the car off track and hope for a dumb steward like Johnny Herbert to let you through. Honestly, such a let down for fans.
What’s the point in trying? You either try to go round the outside and it’s either you crash or go off….or you need to be a number of car lengths ahead to go completely round him and take the inside of the corner. The latter is just not possible unless your car has a massive overspeed.
Damon is clearly projecting everything Schumacher used to do to him on Max and it shows. I personally am not bothered by British bias. They are no more biased than the Mexican or Italian press or the Dutch press for that matter.. The press, vloggers, bloggers are entitled to their own opinion. I have the choice to pay attention or not. I do have a problem when people bend the truth to make their own narrative. I have no respect for that. I have a problem when Max gets community service for swearing when Charles, who swore on three separate occasions in a press conference, does not get publicly chastised nor penalized. I do have a problem when Johnny Herbert can explain everything when it comes to Max but is nowhere to be found when it comes to any other driver especially the Brits. I have a problemTim Mayer , the son of the co-founder of McLaren racing, being a steward in a championship where McLaren is one of the main contenders. Other than that I will always come back to this channel whether or not I agree with Cam because I have the utmost respect for Cam and his guests.
The problem is with this whole easilly offended / always complaining generation. Most of them are too damn passive. Also that guy that heads FIA needs to be changed. I know that there are rules and regulations, but F1 should be mostly about racing and positions on track should be won on track. Yes, Carlos had a good race, but as soon as Charles was about 1 second from him, he started bitching about it. We, the F1 enthuziasts don`t want to see that. We want to see proper racing. This is the toughest motor sport out there and there are only 20 F1 drivers. You need to earn everything, not beg for favors, penalties and shit like that. Max might be sometimes unsporty, but at least he is willing to fight. Most of the others are just "mew mew mew"...
Lando complains to the press as a tactic because he is incapable of keeping pole position and winning races in the fastest car (the majority of the time)... Both are playing dirty, but at least Max doesn't pretend like Lando to be 'clean'.
PW is the only F1 person I actually listen to. There is always this grounded view and he always looks at both sides before judging. Not only my favorite but the only man I respect. What a legend.
This is the first time I’m hearing Peter Windsor, due to that I’ve slowly become a fan of Cameron-Cc and listen to all his vlogs. I have thoroughly enjoyed this discussion, I think I shall be listening to Peter Windsor more frequently. He seems a very decent commentator without the British bias. I’m Dutch with an English background and have always enjoyed the English media on F1 but have grown tired of the Max-bashing as I’m also a max fan. Lately they seem to not recognise the brilliance of Max.
10:00 couldn't disagree more. Max was leaving space the same way Leclerc did the following year and Lewis mysteriously was able to make the corner in a much worse car
As half a Dutchie, you two gents are the opposite of British biased. Something you two have shown over and over again; and not just only when it came to Verstappen either.
Always a breath of fresh air listening to Peter about these situations. Just a clean and calm analysis, combined with actual knowledge of what is going on in drivers' minds. The 'British Bias' for me is just the buzz on everything Max related. Max is a murderer, a bully, mad max. It's all so blown up. Which is what all the non British drivers have been saying for years.
Cameron is the most unbiased F1 Channel out there. A beacon of truth. PW is obviously incredible with his knowledge and insights that nobody else has. The 2 best in the business by a mile. Cam is still young but already has perspectives that other bias F1 channels just could never reach until they open their minds. if he keeps this up, he will be the go to guy for F1 preview and reviews for the international f1 YT followers. The sport is only growing and we need truth sayers like Cam more than anything. So sick of the British bias. Shez also a good anylist but he’s a bit soft and doesn’t see how champions think the way Cam does. Max is the best we have seen in F1 and we need truth sayers to say it how it is and not make this some child’s sport. F1 never has been and the greats are killers just how it should be. Let’s not dilute it, like everything else is getting diluted.
13:55 dutch listener here. 1 yes there is british bias but 2 no its not you and Peter. You 2 are by far my favourite pundits from the UK for F1. Independent, very knowledgeable not afraid to call a duck a duck. When you criticise non UK drivers I take it seriously. We're not weak minded. We want straight points. We don't want people to hold back criticism on Max for example. But yes we also do see British bias in F1 from British media a lot and we do call it out Btw that doesn't mean we don't see the Dutch bias in Dutch media as well. The only thing here is that for F1, British media is the standard hub
Jos Verstappen: "Is there a conflict of interest?" Verstappen Sr went on to add that "there were a few stewards present who don't like him anyway". The stewards panel in Mexico City comprised former F1 driver Johnny Herbert; experienced motorsports executive and official Tim Mayer, who is also the son of former McLaren team principal Teddy; lawyer Loïc Bacquelaine, and experienced Mexican official Alfonso Oros Trigueros. Verstappen Sr added: "The FIA should take a good look at the composition of the stewards, who they put there and whether there is any appearance of a conflict of interest. For example, former drivers who have more sympathy for certain drivers or riders." ...
He did hold up lando enough to maybe cost him an extra 7 points of p1 against sainz so maybe he knew what he was doing with the crazy looking overtake as it cost lando more than 5 seconds
Max is always going to take the inside line, so you have to try to pass on the outside. If it’s ok to just shove people off, then I guess you can never pass.
@@yaadmanstyle Peter Windsor contradicted himself in 5mins. First criticising Lando for trying outside overtakes. Then 5 mins later criticising people that said Max was in the wrong for trying to stick it outside of Copse.
@ Regular occurrence.!his shows are a good pastime but you should always take what he says with a grain of salt. He’ll try to use history to validate his mind/place in the sport but that doesn’t make his takes law. Don’t take it seriously! All for the entertainment purposes.
That's exactly the problem with how the rules are written, it should never be allowed to simply drive your opponent off the track! In the words of Fernando Alonso "All the time you have to leave the space!"
Max is crazy. he can take a corner when the tires are right on the edge of slipping or giving away. How does he know or feel when that comes, it seems so different by each turn and all other factors, it's insane.
The regulations could easily be fixed: 'A driver that is in front of an overtaking driver and chooses to defend the inside line holds precedent to the corner.' 'A driver holding the inside line may take the normal racing line. However, if the inside cars front wheels are deemed to make contact with a car on the outside behind the outside cars front wheels, resulting in an incident, the incident will be reported to the stewards (in which the driver on the inside will receive a penalty).' This sort of removes the 'hanging it around the outside' overtake strategy. It would clearly have fixed the drama at Turn 4 between Norris/Verstappen, as Verstappen held the inside going into the corner, and Norris couldn't quite get ahead by the exit of the corner. He tried, he failed, fair game. Now if their was a wall there, Lando, not Max, would have had to back out.
British bias is fully baked in. It is a thing. International media is done in english so basicly we get mostly british media. For them its difficult to not love those "of their own" nationality over those of another one. Whenever someone is interviewed who doesn't speak english that well, then he's ignored after half a minute. Whenever a brit is interviewed we get to listen at it for 5 minutes. International media should know the power it has and handle with it with a lot more care. Leave the guys like Hill, Brundle, Herbert, Button at home a lot more and get more of Hakkinen, Alesi, Berger in there. Its good to call it out. Let them remember the power they have and should be more careful of.
As for the overtakes, we should make sure it doesn't become a divebomb fest. With DRS we already have large speed differences, if someone dive bombs it becomes real dangerous because the guy in front can't do anything. Not only can he not block it he can also not get out of the way and becomes a live target. A divebomb that turns out wrong is always going to have consequences and should be penalized heavily. After turn 4 Lando was ahead so no penalty necessary. Turn 7 was at least silly
Seems simple to me. Verstappen gains potentially way more from a collision with Lando fairly obviously. If someone was 50 pts ahead of Verstappen then he wouldn't do it as recklessly. Saame as 2021 with Hamilton.
Why are other drivers not aggressive anymore? Alonso would drive Lando off the track as well... I remember that Lewis did the same against Rosberg and Max in '21... Lando and McLaren are using strange tactics to make Max the villain of the sport... But those who have watched the sport for decades remember Senna vs Prost, and Schumacher vs Hill. Max is doing whatever he can to win the CH. And he is winning. Why should he roll out a red carpet for Lando? Not going to happen, sorry.
I’m watching F1 because of Max Verstappen. Without him F1 would be extremely boring. After every race everyone is talking about that guy, no one is talking about the winner…
Should Lando have done the same as Lawson with Perez? That would have sent a message to Max that he’s ready to fight back, just as Martin Villari said the other day. Instead, he backed out and ended up behind Max a corner later. After that, he didn’t have the courage to overtake Max, which ultimately cost him the race. I think Max made a deliberate professional foul at that corner to compromise Lando’s race.
Just like he thought Lewis was soft. Right is right as wrong is wrong. Max convinced other driver to have little respect for Lewis for trying to avoid an accident when Max himself was in the wrong.
There is only one thing about car racing "Winning" .... That's why we watch it. 2021 season was the best... Having Hamilton vs Max going for it was Spectacular.
There is some irony in that F1 are going to Brazil and are going to celebrate Senna this weekend, at the same time one of his true successors have been the target of a week long open season of attacks. Seems like the focus on mental health doesn’t apply to Max:-) At this point I hope McLaren lose out on both titles, while being too occupied with being liked. Not talking about this conversation, levelheaded and interesting as always.
Windsor is right. If you choose to pass on the outside, you assume ALL of the risk, if the inside driver can’t make the corner, they also won’t have traction to avoid you, coming around the outside. To pass on the outside you have to assume the inside driver will be perfect, but also slower, than you, and you are taking the long way around! This means you have to be 2x faster to actually come out of the corner quicker, or be so far ahead that the inside driver has to fully brake and bail out completely (likely breaking their wing on your rear tires) which makes it a reckless pass. Outside, you have NO RIGHTS, pass on the inside like a real racer.
Peter !! He made that move, and ran way off the track, which will automatically push the car on the outside off. I say for it to be "racing" as Peter would say, the car inside MUST make the corner and stay in track limits. Otherwise the car inside is Breaking regulations to stay ahead which is automatically a penalty.
As a Dutch person I agree with British bias however do not agree with British bias in the case of you Cam and probably Peter. It’s one of the big reasons why I love your channel. Except for 1 individual 😂
I think Max already confirmed this, but he wasn't trying to take Lando "out" of the race. He was trying to ensure that Carlos won the race. He was successful in that calculation in that Lando hauled in 10pts versus the anticipated 13pts when they race started. Additionally, likely he probably was also hoping to get Charles in play against Lando. However, I’m not in Max’s head, so IDK. Besides with the cost cap factor for RBR (like Mercedes now), Max cannot afford to risk seriously damaging his car attempting to take out Lando (anyone) on track. Heard Alpine now with RBR is showing interest in Franco. Hope he can find a seat somewhere! While I think Carlos can forgive Ferrari for showing him the door, I don’t think Mr. Windsor ever will! However, remember there was a branding factor for Ferrari signing Lewis that they couldn’t resist. Once again, I’m staying positive concerning Carlos going to Williams and there may be unanticipated positive surprises (for both Carlos and Williams) in what will most likely be a short term stay at Williams for Carlos. That being said, I think it is all but certain that Carlos will be in a top drive come CY2026. I agree that Lewis will not blow away Charles and vice versa (I think the both of them are smart enough and have enough mutual respect for each other and Ferrari itself is the lead driver). Honestly, I think while it is fun to speculate, I just hope that Lewis and Charles are in a really good car at the front going toe-to-toe every GP in 2025.
Excellent episode guys! But, contrary to what Peter said in the opening phase of the video about car development and Carlos'role in that, it was specifically that what Carlos said was his biggest disappointment of not being a Ferrari driver next year, the fact that he helped to develop the car where it is now, and not being able to take advantage of those developments next year. And, since Carlos should be in the know, I tend to disagree with PW on this matter.
Don Carlos Sainz Vázquez de Castro Cenamor Rincón Rebollo Birto Moreno de Aranda de Anteriuga Tiapera Deltún is who he is in full. A 'hidalgo' (son of somebody noteworthy), who just betrays that aristocratic lineage and 'high fashion' style in both his demeanour and racecraft. The fellow is a professional racing driver and a very good one, winning Grand Prix.
Thanks guys. Lando as a soft touch: my Q: is this Bourne out by the fact that when Carlos passed max, there were a few corners where they were racing hard but max didn't pull any of the " im gonna drive you off the track" stuff. ? I've not heard any comments, either online or in the press about that? Why? Adios
Max doesn't have to drive Carlos off the track as Carlos is not a threat for the WDC. Max is only interested in beating Lando - the one who, numerically is his biggest threat.
Lewis time is over imo... exactly as Windsor opinion.... he is suitable now in second tier teams like haas , williams etc.... sainz should be in Ferrari with Charles.... Charles will defeat lewis easily now
Carlos with no pressure is decent, but when he’s had the opportunity he’s bottled it. Even last year Qatar, lewis dummied tf out of Carlos. He’s really good but not a top driver
What if for Ferrari although it is true that Carlos is a perfect number 2 for Charles but as we know Charles is mistake prone and with that Charles is a perfect number 2 for Lewis.
Great chat as usual. Don't agree with Peter's view on Max though. Max clearly dive bombed out of spite, ensuring Lando's race was ruined. By the way, it 'compounded by', not 'confounded by'.
Fantastic conversation - love Windsor. I share his view that an exciting race is one where there is lots of blocking and back and forth. The FIA should get out of the way. Remember Max held Lando back and enabled Charles and Carols to get ahead. Without Max, this race would have been Lando taking the lead and winning by 20s - boring.
Peter, really like the Sweatshirt !! Brings back really fond memories of my Dymag days and ChampCars at the Brickyard. I met Frank Arciero many times as both Team Owner and one of my customers. Frank was his man, someone bigger than life itself, however he was also very unassuming and polite too without an Ego, a real titan of the Industry and someone who didn't suffer fools gladly, rather more someone you would enjoy socialising with away from the track. RIP Frank .
Only way Lando can stop this with Max, is to let Max decide if they gona have a crash going into a corner, this will always be an issue when you are close Mates away from the Track, Max knows how far he can push it, im a Fan of both so not biest
If there will be rain in any of the sessions, the usual predictions will go out of the window. I am up for it! I have great faith in Max's abilities in the rain..
I love hearing sensible input from this guy. So many say Sainz and Max is a bad idea due to the 2 fathers not getting along and that Max doesn't want the competition. Total internet Rubbish. I've been saying Sainz ever since Checo started falling back. Id be over the moon if that happened. But i think Christian has a soft spot for Checo cuz hes such a nice guy.
There is no respectable sport where you wouldn't do everything in your power to win a championship. Including crossing the legality boundaries. This is why drivers like Max and Senna and Michael are different. Because they know the only thing that matters after the dust settles is the championship in your hands. That's a champion mentality.... All the crying and whining about fair racing is just media. Gaslighting. People like Brundle and Hill never had that champion mentality and will never understand they will never be regarded as great. The only issue here is the consistently inconsistent FIA. They are the ones that are causing chaos...
I have heard Max saying on many an occasion that to him it doesn't matter who would be in the second seat. He is focussed on his own seat, so yes, put Carlos in the Red Bull for 2025. I think that Carlos has a clause in his contract to allow him to get out of Williams if a seat further up the grid would come available. I am all for it, as a Max fan, but I also agree with all the positive comments about Carlos, so he does deserve a seat in Red Bull. Vamos!!
Peter is incredibly knowledgeable and intelligent. Tired of him denigratingAlonso. He would say he’s had the worst cars because of bad choices, not bad luck. McLaren is a bad choice? Ask Jenson Button about Alonso. Does he feel Sena lacked talent. He had a similar approach on steroids.
Gravel traps everywhere half a cars width outside the the white line. Keep the car on the track if a car gets halfway beside you leave space, all four wheels of the track penalty. How hard can it be
What we can’t have overtaking in F1 unless it is like Max being aggressive? Bullocks. Max move was intentional dangerous driving. F1 is not dodgem cars.
George didn’t exactly deserve p1 in spa anyway but this year is the first year he’s been the quicker of the two. 2022 he actually struggled massively vs Hamilton but the points didn’t reflect that as they often don’t in F1
I still say Lando should have been more patient and waited for a better place to pass Max. Lando had the better car and in few laps Max would have been easy prey in the DRS zone. Someone at McLaren should be coaching Lando better, you have to know who your racing. I really do feel for Lando, here he is with what might be his only real chance for a championship and management is screwing it up.
Max is right. I will go one further and I say that Lando will never be WDC. If Lando had any balls in him, he wouldn`t let the event in Hungary happen.
agree, i was thinking about this too lately, looks like he will never be a champ, i think if mclaren had the fastest car for the whole 2025, oscar could beat him even if he is slower in a pure pace
I think he needed to learn his lessons, looking at Mexico. He learned his lessons.
I think Lando needs to crash Max a couple of times when Max shuts the door. Not intentionally, but not backing out. It's harsh, I know, but if you're known for always giving room, avoiding physical contact,... You just don't have that ruthlessness needed to do anything to win WDC. Let's be frank. Lando will not win WDC this year. So he should act accordingly in the remaining races.
@@alpha007org agree, i think in mexico turn 4-5 he should do what max did in monza turn 1-2 in 2021, not letting max to push him off and go to turn 5 anyway
@@alpha007orgif lando and max take each other out, the only one it benefits is max. Stop saying nonsense
Im a fan of this aggression. Opponent has a faster car? Become a brick wall, penalties and all. Not only is it helping his championship, its far more entertaining for us than letting Lando pass. Keep it up Max.
2 points to add: The idea from Hill that Max cant race fairly is laughable. Theres no fair play award in F1. Max knows the risk and so far its paying off. Why should he race fairly against a guy whos 30 sec faster? To lose? Good one Damon.
Also, seeing some talk about hypocrisy from Max that when he gets raced hard he complains. If you ever played competitive sport, that is the game and is normal. If you expect a driver to not complain about things done to him, you probably think letting your opponent win is a good idea too 🤣
Agree, people can have different attitude to it, but he will be champion
that's what ut is about, and that's what we want to see
so many years people were complaining on drs passes on straights, now they don't like max, so what do they need
Yes, totally agree, some wanna race only when they have the best car and with Max that is simply not going to happen. When he races he adapts to real life situations. Many of us love this brilliance and passion
This is so moronic.
U know aggression comes with an incident so it be awesome if u dun defend max 100%
hear hear 👏
Way too much fuss for a fight. People and also the FIA today don't know the real racing duels anymore, they never saw one, too young. If you want to find an example of a real racing duel, look up the duel on TH-cam between René Arnoux and Gilles Villeneuve in the GP France at Dijon in 1979. Without any intervention from the organization. Only Max and Fernando are still of that caliber, the rest are wimps. Do you want to see a locomotive with wagons, like Lewis behind Georges for 15 laps? Stop whining, up to the next race.
The English are only happy when Lewis is on pole, Lando second and George third and do not fight eachother and Lewis finished first, Lando second and George third!
@@51bikerboy You are right, they better make a British F1 championship, than driving in a F1 world championship, with real drivers and fighters. Like I already said, the real English talented fair play F1 drivers are all buried (Stirling Moss, Jim Clark, James Hunt,...) and even they had their quicker foreigner opponent except Jim Clark, Moss had Fangio, Hunt had Lauda, Mansell had Senna. A lot of British drivers would never reach the F1 is they were not British. So Max is right when he says "I have the wrong passport"
Been watching F1 since 1978 and I 100% Agree with you... Too many Snowflakes that melt when things don't go there way but then again The Brits aren't known for winning fair fights througout history 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was thinking the same thing myself yesterday. The French grand prix in 79 is a great example of the racing spirit. We can't destroy the racing spirit. To be a racing driver you have to go for the gap and push the rules and regulations no matter how unclear they are.
@@christopherhambleton9701 In case of a racing duel, you have to make the rules as simple as possible, to avoid discussions. For me being 55 years in motorsport, the rule must be “You will punished if you deliberately drive into the other car” like Schumacher did with Damon Hill and Jacques Villeneuve, but as long as you didn’t touch the other car deliberately, it is not punishable.
Cameron I've got to say the way you look all dressed in black with the gold light behind you, your catch phrases, the way you speak, top notch mate !
Totally agree, and you learn some new English words as well, with each of Cam's videos! Oh the humanity! 🤣
As Montoya already mentioned: Lando is a weak sausage....
Just like Russel and several other crybabies.
Russell isn't. He does complain a lot, but he is a hard wheel to wheel racer.
@@Roguescienceguy that’s is he doesn’t burn off his tires lol
Add Albon to that list
No one cries more than Stappen😂😂😂
Just because they don’t drive like tossers doesn’t mean they won’t win championships
And they will be respected for it far more
Sad doing Senna Schumacher impressions
At least Norris is being himself
@@Roguescienceguy His mentality is very weak. Max is mentally stronger than any guy of that younger generation. Russell is pure feminine emotion.
The championship is not something you give, it is something to be taken...
Yes, British Bias is really a thing and F1 is almost dictated by the English tabloid press. BUT both Cam and PW are not bad at all, they are my favorites :). Yesterday Cam spoke with those 2 clowns in the podcast that was quite bad, not more then average pub talk. I compliment Cameron on his purity when it comes to F1 and so of course Peter. That Aussie bloke is also good btw.
British bias exists. Get over it.
You should see how the British press hammer a lot of our own athletes Jesus Christ. The most Verstappen has had is criticism for driving dirty. Alonso got his teammate to crash into a wall and sky still kiss his arse. They’re much better mates with a lot of the British pundits than guys like Hamilton etc so it makes no sense
Basically you like Max bias😛
Bias is a joke its been said the why it is max uses all the road and pushes people off he did it to Hamilton shit loads of time max is dangerous and i said it so
GG. Baxty just sounds tooo whiny
I m Dutch and a max fan, but you two are the nicest to listen to in the space. Props
Windsor gives Charles the credit , hell yeah he was on fire in recent form and races.
Yes, Max is different from most of the drivers so they will never see what Max or MSC would see in that car.
Indeed, Max knows he has an absolute dog of a car and he tried to hinder Lando. It's Lando's job to try and avoid it by going in as hard as Max did. Which he kind of did.
The britis bias is overwhelming and the evident is there , the commentators are british , the presenters are british , the bloody analysts are british even though they might say they are not bias its happens subconsciously , we need more diversity in F1 media cause its a INTERNATIONAL sport , you watch races and notice how unenthusiastic Brundle and Crofty get when a brit isnt leading a race they completely ignore the leader , Charles in Monza and Austin and even Sainz in Mexico its so bloody annoying and I'm not talking about Sky here im talking about F1 MEDIA in general
Edit : To those saying I should watch another broadcast , Im from south africa lol we get what we get and what we get is all the british bs media which is F1 centric media
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look for the dutch ones then, auto translate might work
In Germany the broadcasters, commentators and presenters are not British, they are German. ...... and yes, they have just as much 'bias' towards German drivers. The problem isn't 'bias' the problem is that the British broadcast is used as the international broadcast in a lot of places. It's the same in many places, the Italian broadcast is very Ferrari focused because that's what their viewers are interested in. I do think maybe that there needs to be more local broadcasters involved.
Its just that sky is incharge of the world feed, but lets not pretend the dutch, italian etc media arent biased aswell. Maybe the world feed needs a revamp but unless someone outbids sky then yeah. Stuck with them
Maybe because you're watching British television, I'm sure if you went to Spain and watched it, they would be Spanish?
Lando crybaby is not championship material.... he is just a normal f1 driver... nothing great about him except having a good car
Just like Lewis! He was lucky that the other teams where no competition because they had 20% less power! Only Rosberg could beat him because he had the same engine!
@@51bikerboywhere is norris with the best car?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well said
@@51bikerboyIf you really believe that, why did Rosberg only beat him once in equal machinery? Are neither championship material then? Or how aboutAlonso, who was beaten by Lewis in equal machinery at McLaren? 🤡
Media and all drivers attitude is so lame max is the generational GEM i absolutly love everyrhing about him AS a driver hes just pure cold intelligent savage driver ... Even after race when everybody think that he pjshed lando BC emktions it was jest pure calculation before the race ... Car is too slow ? Lets make i will do everything i could to make max pointe of the race i he just did it ! Monster
The only reason they hate him is BC they cant beat him easily !
The Dutch actually love & respect Windsor. We too, love oldschool racing.
In old school racing they were very tough but equally fair, leaving enough room (even if only by a millimetre) for the other driver to attempt the overtake. Max does not do that.
@@Jordyrugby Are we watching the same races?
@@Jordyrugby Senna Prost, anyone? You either are too young to have watched this live, or too old to remember (it factually. Basically: "let's glorify the past").
@@Jordyrugby uhm no, no they were not.
I meran the whole reason we say that "when you pass on the outside, you put yourself on the penaltystip", is because this is out of old skool racing. Dont do it, only if you are truly certain - cause you will get pushed off
@@Jordyrugby So you haven't seen Senna & Prost racing? Did you know a guy named Schumacher is the first 7 time WDC? Did you see how he won those? Have you heard from a little situation going by the monniker "crash gate" I'm pretty sure you haven't, because if you had... You wouldn't even know what all the fuss is about.
Max and fans have noticed that Lando has essentially given up on racing Max. Just throw the car off track and hope for a dumb steward like Johnny Herbert to let you through. Honestly, such a let down for fans.
What’s the point in trying? You either try to go round the outside and it’s either you crash or go off….or you need to be a number of car lengths ahead to go completely round him and take the inside of the corner. The latter is just not possible unless your car has a massive overspeed.
Max is the one forcing him off track you idiot!
@Jordyrugby you have fastest car for 14 races only 3 wins something is very wrong
Damon is clearly projecting everything Schumacher used to do to him on Max and it shows.
I personally am not bothered by British bias. They are no more biased than the Mexican or Italian press or the Dutch press for that matter.. The press, vloggers, bloggers are entitled to their own opinion. I have the choice to pay attention or not.
I do have a problem when people bend the truth to make their own narrative. I have no respect for that.
I have a problem when Max gets community service for swearing when Charles, who swore on three separate occasions in a press conference, does not get publicly chastised nor penalized.
I do have a problem when Johnny Herbert can explain everything when it comes to Max but is nowhere to be found when it comes to any other driver especially the Brits.
I have a problemTim Mayer , the son of the co-founder of McLaren racing, being a steward in a championship where McLaren is one of the main contenders.
Other than that I will always come back to this channel whether or not I agree with Cam because I have the utmost respect for Cam and his guests.
The problem is with this whole easilly offended / always complaining generation. Most of them are too damn passive. Also that guy that heads FIA needs to be changed. I know that there are rules and regulations, but F1 should be mostly about racing and positions on track should be won on track. Yes, Carlos had a good race, but as soon as Charles was about 1 second from him, he started bitching about it. We, the F1 enthuziasts don`t want to see that. We want to see proper racing. This is the toughest motor sport out there and there are only 20 F1 drivers. You need to earn everything, not beg for favors, penalties and shit like that. Max might be sometimes unsporty, but at least he is willing to fight. Most of the others are just "mew mew mew"...
Lando complains to the press as a tactic because he is incapable of keeping pole position and winning races in the fastest car (the majority of the time)...
Both are playing dirty, but at least Max doesn't pretend like Lando to be 'clean'.
PW is the only F1 person I actually listen to. There is always this grounded view and he always looks at both sides before judging. Not only my favorite but the only man I respect. What a legend.
This is the first time I’m hearing Peter Windsor, due to that I’ve slowly become a fan of Cameron-Cc and listen to all his vlogs. I have thoroughly enjoyed this discussion, I think I shall be listening to Peter Windsor more frequently. He seems a very decent commentator without the British bias. I’m Dutch with an English background and have always enjoyed the English media on F1 but have grown tired of the Max-bashing as I’m also a max fan. Lately they seem to not recognise the brilliance of Max.
10:00 couldn't disagree more. Max was leaving space the same way Leclerc did the following year and Lewis mysteriously was able to make the corner in a much worse car
I luv Max a fighter media kills him but not his spirit. Lando is a pissy
As half a Dutchie, you two gents are the opposite of British biased. Something you two have shown over and over again; and not just only when it came to Verstappen either.
Always a breath of fresh air listening to Peter about these situations. Just a clean and calm analysis, combined with actual knowledge of what is going on in drivers' minds. The 'British Bias' for me is just the buzz on everything Max related. Max is a murderer, a bully, mad max. It's all so blown up. Which is what all the non British drivers have been saying for years.
Cameron is the most unbiased F1 Channel out there. A beacon of truth.
PW is obviously incredible with his knowledge and insights that nobody else has. The 2 best in the business by a mile.
Cam is still young but already has perspectives that other bias F1 channels just could never reach until they open their minds. if he keeps this up, he will be the go to guy for F1 preview and reviews for the international f1 YT followers. The sport is only growing and we need truth sayers like Cam more than anything. So sick of the British bias. Shez also a good anylist but he’s a bit soft and doesn’t see how champions think the way Cam does.
Max is the best we have seen in F1 and we need truth sayers to say it how it is and not make this some child’s sport. F1 never has been and the greats are killers just how it should be. Let’s not dilute it, like everything else is getting diluted.
Uffff. This means a lot JS. Thank you for the kind words. Far too kind.
13:55 dutch listener here. 1 yes there is british bias but 2 no its not you and Peter. You 2 are by far my favourite pundits from the UK for F1. Independent, very knowledgeable not afraid to call a duck a duck. When you criticise non UK drivers I take it seriously. We're not weak minded. We want straight points. We don't want people to hold back criticism on Max for example. But yes we also do see British bias in F1 from British media a lot and we do call it out
Btw that doesn't mean we don't see the Dutch bias in Dutch media as well. The only thing here is that for F1, British media is the standard hub
Great one Cameron, I love listening to you and Peter, it's like I get a peak at things from the 3rd eye of experience
Every time Peter talks to Cameron, Cam is forced to listen to how good Charles is. I love it!😂
Facts me too 😂😂😂
Max is a winner !
He definitely is. He is just a bad loser
@@nicholase6552 as a champion often is
No Cameron Dutch fans are happy with Peter Windsor and you as well it is Sky F1 what is the problem
Absolutely agree..as a Dutchy.. 😉
Jos Verstappen: "Is there a conflict of interest?" Verstappen Sr went on to add that "there were a few stewards present who don't like him anyway". The stewards panel in Mexico City comprised former F1 driver Johnny Herbert; experienced motorsports executive and official Tim Mayer, who is also the son of former McLaren team principal Teddy; lawyer Loïc Bacquelaine, and experienced Mexican official Alfonso Oros Trigueros. Verstappen Sr added: "The FIA should take a good look at the composition of the stewards, who they put there and whether there is any appearance of a conflict of interest. For example, former drivers who have more sympathy for certain drivers or riders." ...
He did hold up lando enough to maybe cost him an extra 7 points of p1 against sainz so maybe he knew what he was doing with the crazy looking overtake as it cost lando more than 5 seconds
Overtaking is dangerous so let’s all follow the leader and make every weekend a Sunday drive like Monaco. So no passing the car in front.
Good chemistry between hosts
Looking forward to the Brasil Grandprix, apparently there's an eighty percent chance of rain on Sunday. Let's go!
Brazil
@harryboy3305 Depends, there is no 'wrong' here. And all I'm saying is I'm excited for the next race.
Max is always going to take the inside line, so you have to try to pass on the outside. If it’s ok to just shove people off, then I guess you can never pass.
100%
But people cry when he hit a wall in Silverstone
@@yaadmanstyle Peter Windsor contradicted himself in 5mins. First criticising Lando for trying outside overtakes. Then 5 mins later criticising people that said Max was in the wrong for trying to stick it outside of Copse.
@ Regular occurrence.!his shows are a good pastime but you should always take what he says with a grain of salt. He’ll try to use history to validate his mind/place in the sport but that doesn’t make his takes law. Don’t take it seriously! All for the entertainment purposes.
That's exactly the problem with how the rules are written, it should never be allowed to simply drive your opponent off the track! In the words of Fernando Alonso "All the time you have to leave the space!"
Martin brindle is just as bad almost crying Sunday 😮😮😢
Max is crazy. he can take a corner when the tires are right on the edge of slipping or giving away.
How does he know or feel when that comes, it seems so different by each turn and all other factors, it's insane.
Natural talent, cannot be teachef.
F1 is about overtaking otherwise nobody is going to wach anymore
We all hate circuits where you can' t overtake
True but only overtakes after a fight
The regulations could easily be fixed:
'A driver that is in front of an overtaking driver and chooses to defend the inside line holds precedent to the corner.'
'A driver holding the inside line may take the normal racing line. However, if the inside cars front wheels are deemed to make contact with a car on the outside behind the outside cars front wheels, resulting in an incident, the incident will be reported to the stewards (in which the driver on the inside will receive a penalty).'
This sort of removes the 'hanging it around the outside' overtake strategy. It would clearly have fixed the drama at Turn 4 between Norris/Verstappen, as Verstappen held the inside going into the corner, and Norris couldn't quite get ahead by the exit of the corner. He tried, he failed, fair game. Now if their was a wall there, Lando, not Max, would have had to back out.
British bias is fully baked in. It is a thing.
International media is done in english so basicly we get mostly british media. For them its difficult to not love those "of their own" nationality over those of another one. Whenever someone is interviewed who doesn't speak english that well, then he's ignored after half a minute. Whenever a brit is interviewed we get to listen at it for 5 minutes.
International media should know the power it has and handle with it with a lot more care. Leave the guys like Hill, Brundle, Herbert, Button at home a lot more and get more of Hakkinen, Alesi, Berger in there.
Its good to call it out. Let them remember the power they have and should be more careful of.
As for the overtakes, we should make sure it doesn't become a divebomb fest. With DRS we already have large speed differences, if someone dive bombs it becomes real dangerous because the guy in front can't do anything. Not only can he not block it he can also not get out of the way and becomes a live target. A divebomb that turns out wrong is always going to have consequences and should be penalized heavily. After turn 4 Lando was ahead so no penalty necessary. Turn 7 was at least silly
Peter....you are my hero! From the Netherlands
Max
Lewis, Leclerc
Alonso, Norris
Thats how i see the hierarchy
Sainz for me is at the same level as Lando and Alonso
Alonso and Norris in the same bracket 🐘@@bondinho6114
37:49 the goatiest F1 mind to have ever goated kind of predicted Max winning in wet in Interlagos
in addition... he also predicted McLaren winning in the dry, which they did in the sprint race
Seems simple to me. Verstappen gains potentially way more from a collision with Lando fairly obviously. If someone was 50 pts ahead of Verstappen then he wouldn't do it as recklessly. Saame as 2021 with Hamilton.
Why are other drivers not aggressive anymore? Alonso would drive Lando off the track as well... I remember that Lewis did the same against Rosberg and Max in '21... Lando and McLaren are using strange tactics to make Max the villain of the sport... But those who have watched the sport for decades remember Senna vs Prost, and Schumacher vs Hill. Max is doing whatever he can to win the CH. And he is winning. Why should he roll out a red carpet for Lando? Not going to happen, sorry.
I’m watching F1 because of Max Verstappen. Without him F1 would be extremely boring. After every race everyone is talking about that guy, no one is talking about the winner…
I believe Max did it because He knows if they both crash out he will still win the Championship.
Exactly, he forces you to crash with him when he knows he has the lead in pts
Should Lando have done the same as Lawson with Perez? That would have sent a message to Max that he’s ready to fight back, just as Martin Villari said the other day. Instead, he backed out and ended up behind Max a corner later. After that, he didn’t have the courage to overtake Max, which ultimately cost him the race. I think Max made a deliberate professional foul at that corner to compromise Lando’s race.
I do t think you two specifically are biased. Most of the other British journalists are biased. I’ve been a fan for 30+ years and it’s a reality.
Just like he thought Lewis was soft. Right is right as wrong is wrong. Max convinced other driver to have little respect for Lewis for trying to avoid an accident when Max himself was in the wrong.
Norris IS a soft touch and needs stewards heavily penalizing Max to give Lando boy a small chance to become WC.
There is only one thing about car racing
"Winning" .... That's why we watch it.
2021 season was the best... Having
Hamilton vs Max going for it was
Spectacular.
There is some irony in that F1 are going to Brazil and are going to celebrate Senna this weekend, at the same time one of his true successors have been the target of a week long open season of attacks. Seems like the focus on mental health doesn’t apply to Max:-) At this point I hope McLaren lose out on both titles, while being too occupied with being liked. Not talking about this conversation, levelheaded and interesting as always.
Windsor is right. If you choose to pass on the outside, you assume ALL of the risk, if the inside driver can’t make the corner, they also won’t have traction to avoid you, coming around the outside. To pass on the outside you have to assume the inside driver will be perfect, but also slower, than you, and you are taking the long way around! This means you have to be 2x faster to actually come out of the corner quicker, or be so far ahead that the inside driver has to fully brake and bail out completely (likely breaking their wing on your rear tires) which makes it a reckless pass. Outside, you have NO RIGHTS, pass on the inside like a real racer.
Peter !! He made that move, and ran way off the track, which will automatically push the car on the outside off. I say for it to be "racing" as Peter would say, the car inside MUST make the corner and stay in track limits. Otherwise the car inside is Breaking regulations to stay ahead which is automatically a penalty.
As a Dutch person I agree with British bias however do not agree with British bias in the case of you Cam and probably Peter. It’s one of the big reasons why I love your channel. Except for 1 individual 😂
Max is on the right here100 %, this is no boyscout trip
Mr Windsor Lando was on the outside and high speed. Nobody would made it. For the rest it is English press BS.
Facts
As a dutch fan of you 2 . I dont think you are biased.
Keep up the great work 👌
Windsor is great! Right to the point and no BS
I think Max already confirmed this, but he wasn't trying to take Lando "out" of the race. He was trying to ensure that Carlos won the race. He was successful in that calculation in that Lando hauled in 10pts versus the anticipated 13pts when they race started. Additionally, likely he probably was also hoping to get Charles in play against Lando. However, I’m not in Max’s head, so IDK. Besides with the cost cap factor for RBR (like Mercedes now), Max cannot afford to risk seriously damaging his car attempting to take out Lando (anyone) on track. Heard Alpine now with RBR is showing interest in Franco. Hope he can find a seat somewhere! While I think Carlos can forgive Ferrari for showing him the door, I don’t think Mr. Windsor ever will! However, remember there was a branding factor for Ferrari signing Lewis that they couldn’t resist. Once again, I’m staying positive concerning Carlos going to Williams and there may be unanticipated positive surprises (for both Carlos and Williams) in what will most likely be a short term stay at Williams for Carlos. That being said, I think it is all but certain that Carlos will be in a top drive come CY2026. I agree that Lewis will not blow away Charles and vice versa (I think the both of them are smart enough and have enough mutual respect for each other and Ferrari itself is the lead driver). Honestly, I think while it is fun to speculate, I just hope that Lewis and Charles are in a really good car at the front going toe-to-toe every GP in 2025.
Excellent episode guys! But, contrary to what Peter said in the opening phase of the video about car development and Carlos'role in that, it was specifically that what Carlos said was his biggest disappointment of not being a Ferrari driver next year, the fact that he helped to develop the car where it is now, and not being able to take advantage of those developments next year. And, since Carlos should be in the know, I tend to disagree with PW on this matter.
Fantastic show Cam and great to listen to Sir Peter’s spot on points
definetaly - spoilt child vs cold hard
"George has gotten the better of Lewis." Does this guy know that points are scored on Sunday ?
I actually agree.. who’s changed, you or me😂
Don Carlos Sainz Vázquez de Castro Cenamor Rincón Rebollo Birto Moreno de Aranda de Anteriuga Tiapera Deltún is who he is in full.
A 'hidalgo' (son of somebody noteworthy), who just betrays that aristocratic lineage and 'high fashion' style in both his demeanour and racecraft.
The fellow is a professional racing driver and a very good one, winning Grand Prix.
Thanks guys.
Lando as a soft touch: my Q: is this Bourne out by the fact that when Carlos passed max, there were a few corners where they were racing hard but max didn't pull any of the " im gonna drive you off the track" stuff. ? I've not heard any comments, either online or in the press about that? Why? Adios
Max doesn't have to drive Carlos off the track as Carlos is not a threat for the WDC. Max is only interested in beating Lando - the one who, numerically is his biggest threat.
Lewis time is over imo... exactly as Windsor opinion.... he is suitable now in second tier teams like haas , williams etc.... sainz should be in Ferrari with Charles.... Charles will defeat lewis easily now
WE will see. Keep up this energy when Lewis win his 8th
Carlos with no pressure is decent, but when he’s had the opportunity he’s bottled it. Even last year Qatar, lewis dummied tf out of Carlos. He’s really good but not a top driver
You pose a good question but we wont know until 2025 . Id like to think Lewis is not past his best just yet but I accept I could be wrong.
No. Even marko knows. LH in landos car he is this years world champion. This would suggest he knows if LH has a faster car than max its game over..
Lets see, my opinion is he has just checked out mentally and will be up for the fight next year in a better car
Everyone thinks Norris is a soft touch at this point.
Thank you for your impartial vision!
What if for Ferrari although it is true that Carlos is a perfect number 2 for Charles but as we know Charles is mistake prone and with that Charles is a perfect number 2 for Lewis.
Great chat as usual. Don't agree with Peter's view on Max though. Max clearly dive bombed out of spite, ensuring Lando's race was ruined. By the way, it 'compounded by', not 'confounded by'.
I personally like the abrasive paint solution, make it costly to go outside the limits while not causing DNF's
Fantastic conversation - love Windsor. I share his view that an exciting race is one where there is lots of blocking and back and forth. The FIA should get out of the way. Remember Max held Lando back and enabled Charles and Carols to get ahead. Without Max, this race would have been Lando taking the lead and winning by 20s - boring.
He wants Norris to crash into him. But one DNF for Norris and it's over so he's not doing that.
Peter, really like the Sweatshirt !! Brings back really fond memories of my Dymag days and ChampCars at the Brickyard. I met Frank Arciero many times as both Team Owner and one of my customers. Frank was his man, someone bigger than life itself, however he was also very unassuming and polite too without an Ego, a real titan of the Industry and someone who didn't suffer fools gladly, rather more someone you would enjoy socialising with away from the track. RIP Frank .
I really like this conversation between you and Windsor.
Only way Lando can stop this with Max, is to let Max decide if they gona have a crash going into a corner, this will always be an issue when you are close Mates away from the Track, Max knows how far he can push it, im a Fan of both so not biest
There is a difference between diving aggressively and driving with disregard for others.
If there will be rain in any of the sessions, the usual predictions will go out of the window. I am up for it! I have great faith in Max's abilities in the rain..
Great episode!
I love hearing sensible input from this guy.
So many say Sainz and Max is a bad idea due to the 2 fathers not getting along and that Max doesn't want the competition. Total internet Rubbish.
I've been saying Sainz ever since Checo started falling back.
Id be over the moon if that happened.
But i think Christian has a soft spot for Checo cuz hes such a nice guy.
There is no respectable sport where you wouldn't do everything in your power to win a championship. Including crossing the legality boundaries. This is why drivers like Max and Senna and Michael are different. Because they know the only thing that matters after the dust settles is the championship in your hands. That's a champion mentality.... All the crying and whining about fair racing is just media. Gaslighting. People like Brundle and Hill never had that champion mentality and will never understand they will never be regarded as great. The only issue here is the consistently inconsistent FIA. They are the ones that are causing chaos...
I have heard Max saying on many an occasion that to him it doesn't matter who would be in the second seat. He is focussed on his own seat, so yes, put Carlos in the Red Bull for 2025. I think that Carlos has a clause in his contract to allow him to get out of Williams if a seat further up the grid would come available. I am all for it, as a Max fan, but I also agree with all the positive comments about Carlos, so he does deserve a seat in Red Bull. Vamos!!
Can somebody explain to me what Peter means when he says that Max, Lewis and Charles have shorter corners than the rest? Thanks!
they break later than others (and in some cases cover them in higher speed than others)
@ Thank you
He has a 2 part video on short corners but early braking is viable it’s all about using less road and getting the best exit possible
@@hamcrazy96 Cool! I will check them out. Thanks
No one drives like Hamilton, Max and LeClerc....the feel and touch..-those tenths". Peter Windsor
McLaren aren’t a racing team. They’re an engineering outfit. No idea how to run a race. Amazing.
“It’s difficult to see how Lando’s going to lose this one” Hmm ok Peter 😂😂😂😂😂
Peter is incredibly knowledgeable and intelligent. Tired of him denigratingAlonso. He would say he’s had the worst cars because of bad choices, not bad luck. McLaren is a bad choice? Ask Jenson Button about Alonso. Does he feel Sena lacked talent. He had a similar approach on steroids.
Im sure Max wouldnt dare that move with Sainz, Ocon or Alonso
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nah he will punch the shit out of Ocon.... Again 😂😂😂😂
He would dare, but he wouldn't do it because his fight is with Lando, not the guys you mentioned.
He’d do it to his mum lol. I am sure Max is vicious but not malicious.
omg.. he did it against Lewis and Alonso and Sainz and even Ocon!
Gravel traps everywhere half a cars width outside the the white line. Keep the car on the track if a car gets halfway beside you leave space, all four wheels of the track penalty. How hard can it be
What we can’t have overtaking in F1 unless it is like Max being aggressive? Bullocks. Max move was intentional dangerous driving. F1 is not dodgem cars.
Aryton , Senna , Verstappen , Schumacher all dirty drivers
Can anyone explain short vs long corners
George didn’t exactly deserve p1 in spa anyway but this year is the first year he’s been the quicker of the two. 2022 he actually struggled massively vs Hamilton but the points didn’t reflect that as they often don’t in F1
Nice to hear Peter give Liam some nice words. Oh did I say im a 🥝 kiwi . 😅 I've got tickets for Melbourne I hope to see Lawson in a Red Bull 🐂 😁
28:37 that’s a good shout
I still say Lando should have been more patient and waited for a better place to pass Max. Lando had the better car and in few laps Max would have been easy prey in the DRS zone. Someone at McLaren should be coaching Lando better, you have to know who your racing. I really do feel for Lando, here he is with what might be his only real chance for a championship and management is screwing it up.
Does anyone else feel that Peter is really diplomatic.also people want overtaking but but for me I love watching aggressive defending sorry.