Peter Windsor: Verstappen Only Cares About Winning!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ย. 2024
- In this interview with @peterwindsor we discuss Max Verstappen's generational performance in the F1 2024 season, what made it so special and how was Verstappen's fourth championship different to the other three. Was the Brazilian Grand Prix the best drive of Max Verstappen's career or the best wet weather drive ever? What does Verstappen do that is different to other drivers in his response to journalists' criticism of him? How did Lando Norris lose the championship and was Lando Norris more at fault that his team McLaren? Should Zak Brown and Andrea Stella take some responsibility for all of Lando's lost points and will Lando Norris be able to come back stronger in F1 2025? Did Mercedes sabotage Sir Lewis Hamilton in Las Vegas Grand Prix qualifying by having Lewis set his final hot lap in traffic or did Lewis make another costly mistake in qualifying? What does @peterwindsor think about George Russell's comments that Lando Norris should've kept the fight for the F1 drivers' championship going to the very last round and that in F1 2025 George Russell intends to do what Lando Norris could not. @Peter@peterwindsor talks about Charles Leclerc and says whether he thinks Leclerc was justified in his outburt at the Las Vegas Grand Prix and what does Charles need to do to fix this in F1 2025.
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Max Verstappen is indeed one of the all time greats. Not because he won 4 titles now, not his amazing skills in the rain, not his insane season in '23 but this year he showed how amazingly talented this lad is. As he said in an interview on Dutch telly: this one I am really happy about cause I showed I can do it also without having the fastest car.
Without the fastest car.... for the whole year...
21 and 24 combine for a really GOAT type career already when you also have 2 totally dominating years too.
Post 80's: Senna; Schumacher; Lewis; Max are all GOATS. Well see if Max can add to his legacy or not before retiring
Just look how he totally demolished Perez. Every-single-time the gaps where huge. Its not only a difficult car.. Both have the same gear. But max can setup the car better to his liking> that is also a talent. Feeling what is wrong with the car. I think he can better feel a car than Lewis. You see it now with Russell. Both have same car but i must say, Russel is doing a better job than Lewis.
@@psies2005I went back in history but can't find a season where the teammate of a WDC finished 8th or lower. Also didnt find a season where the WDC came in 3rd in the comstructors.
@@psies2005 Im not sure Perez has "the same car" and even then the way the car works favors Max...
I wouldn't count the difference with Perez as a reason for "Goat"... AT ALL.
That's like saying Schumacher is Goat because he was better than Irvine.
@@edgardoMurnia you can question if perez side as the same quality engineers as max had. Maybe Max's his engineers were better. Maybe if you have two engines with one delivering a few more hp's , Max would get that one.. I can agree on that. But RB has many times stated that the cars are equal. I think the second half of the year Perez drove with other specs.. Max didnt like the new floor. Perez did, so he used it, max didnt. So they were able to choose their own specs and setups. Then why did he constanly was soo much behind max? Not only in the race. You cannot compare that (when you have to overtake you ask more of your tyres) but qualifing is equal for everyone.
For once I have to disagree with Mr. Windsor. Max said in an interview with F1, the following:
There are so many more things I want to do in life. There are so many more things I want to do in life. Of course, I know there will be a day when.... Sometimes my mum or dad will call me and I'm like, 'I'm busy, but I'll call them back later'. But I also know that there will come a day when they don't call me anymore, because they won't be here."
The four-time world champion continues, "Moments like these make me realise that it's not just about racing and Formula 1. I want to spend time with them. From the time I was four years old, my family's whole life revolved around me, success and trying to achieve F1. And at some point, enough is enough. Then you have to give back and spend more time with them."
"At the end of the day, that's much more important than all the success here".
I had heard him make similar statements before but not that one: which is a perfect summation of the sentiment. It really makes you have to respect Max even more, both as a person and a driver. I don't think you are disagreeing with Peter though: pretty sure he'd say that it's the simplicity and solidity of Max's approach/foundation to life that let him focus on racing as the #1 thing outside of family. And I'd say his awareness that it's not all about racing allows him to dial in when the moment actually is all about racing to be SOLELY about racing. In the moment though, not necessarily beyond it.
It does sound like somebody who if/when he's accomplished what he wants he'll step away. Not unlike the Jordan comparison (precipitated by personal reasons but he was thinking about it already). That said, if Max does walk away to do something else while still in his prime, it would not surprise me if he comes back eventually once he thinks there's a true challenger with which to compete against again (like Lewis has been).
@clinttube Good point.
@@clinttube I agree with you, I think in the same interview or atleast an interview after his 4th WDC win he said that his dad could never understand his "We will see and I'll figure it out when I get there" mentality, but Max explained that after he puts the helmet on there is only one thing that matters. Winning and maximising the result.
He's just great at seperating work from spare time.
I like Max just because he got to become Schumacher. No mercy, only blood and glory.
LMFAO ..... the comparison is Max has taken over the dick role from Schumacher and secondly , Max will never ever be the talent of Schumacher , ever ......
Yes remember 51 g ! Oh wait Lewis got a penalty for it! I can't remember Max ever causing such a accident!?
Agreed. Max is the first driver after Michael Schumacher (the GOAT)…that made me follow F1 again after so many years
Max is such a great driver because he lives and breathes racing. Where others unwind in a club or on a beach or a yacht, Max jumps in the simulator and races his friends. And not just in open wheel formulas, but also in GT cars, hypercars, etc. He knows how to be fast in any car. Given half a decent car in 2026, I would expect him to be the first driver to know and feel exactly how to drive these new cars on the limit and extract the most from them.
This sim racing is a great tool to learn how various vehicles react in different situations.
And I feel incredibly fortunate to witness an extraordinary talent like Max behind the wheel in F1. He has no weaknesses, and it's truly a joy to watch him race. What a monster
It happens in our lifetime…….what are the odds 😁
@@jakes5425 I felt a certain privilege last year watching Max dominate despite not having a massively dominant car. I kind of felt like the W11’s potential was wasted, as in it should have won everything.
@@NapsterRulez Thanks for sharing your feelings^^
The talent in a car that is a good one and no other team is close too and a governing body that kisses Max's ass ...... he is the most dangerous driver in F1 as he does not care about other drivers safety and blatantly puts other drivers in danger with his aggressive Bonsai driving ..... Schumacher and Senna were dirty too ......
everybody has his weaknesses..He sometimes too agresssive...
So Lawson got 5 second for parking wrong. And norris just gets a fine for shortening the whole race by one lap, while possibly endangering workers on the track... High time FIA gets investigated
I'm sorry, "NONE of it Lando's fault"????? What the ! Mostly ALL of it was Lando's fault. The teams job ends when they give you the fastest car and are there to change your tyres. Rest is all up to the driver, and all the balls dropped at Maclaren have been balls dropped by Lando. Poor starts, poor defence, it goes on
Great Point. Even in Brazil, everyone blamed Mclaren for the pit stop strategy, but they forget somehow that Lando for 8 laps was consistently asking to pit. Despite McLaren telling him to wait. They told him that Leclerc is stuck in traffic after the pit stop. But Lando was still pushing for the stop. And even after the stop, he was still 4th, but then made two mistakes and lost track position and had to be let through by piastri.
Whether it was mostly all Lando's fault or not, he absolutely had the opportunity to either prevent or head off most of those situations. I think a few aren't under his control, but the biggest thing to me is his passivity in responding to things potentially outside of his control. I get Oscar's contract probably has equal treatment clauses, but having been the team player forever, a more ruthless Lando could've stopped a lot of this yet still remained politically palatable internally (AT LEAST temporarily). If after Hungary he cashed in all his chits on pushing back Oscar, it would've at least made Oscar think twice about Spa, Monza, etc..
Oscar (and especially Mark Webber) wouldn't have been happy about it, but he should've been able to pull that off at least for this year. He had a legit opportunity at a championship even with the non-Oscar-related mistakes from McLaren. Not asserting his authority/dominance in the team at that moment was a major, major mistake.
Worst that could happen is it motivates Oscar even more or caused team problems next year. But that hasn't exactly been avoided: you still have to beat your teammate on balance to get to that position, and as good as Oscar is he's still a very young F1 sophomore and making him think twice in the short/medium term can only be a good thing for Lando.
@@Amory98 enjoyed Cam politely disagreeing with Peter re lando. Or in Peter’s eyes saint lando.
Fully agree. If you look at a driver like Sainz who probably has a bit less pace than Lando, but crucially he's arguably the best on the grid in terms of strategy and seeing the bigger picture. He might even be better at it than the Lewis, Max and Fernando.
Meanwhile Lando is possibly among the worst on the grid in this specific skill.
I wonder how long it will take for vast majority of people to realize how good Max is. He's been absolutely phenomenal since mid 2018.
He was always there to pick up the scraps from Mercedes and Ferrari. He was always knocking on the door for a championship fight. And finally in 2021 when he realized that he had a good enough car to take the fight to Mercedes and Lewis, he was fully on it. He instantly locked in his mentality and reached another level. The way he carried himself in 2021 was an excellent example of a champions mindset. He was ruthless in his approach, didn't gave an inch to Lewis. No signs of weakness both on and off track.
The championship fight between him and Lewis that year was no doubt one of the best in F1's history.
There is a Max stat that I find absolutely amazing and I hope you can appreciate it. The last time Max didn't have a DNF and didn't score points was....
Spa 2016. It's been 8 and a half years since he finished outside of the points.
@@suckieduckie yep, I say mid 2018 because after how things panned out in Monaco GP that year, something inside him changed. He started to think more maturely and found that perfect balance in his aggression while still pushing the rules.
He went on to finish inside top 5 in every race after 2018 summer break to 2019 summer break. That's 1 full year of top 5 finishes in a car that was overall 3rd best in the grid.
Only Max brought his mental speedboat along in Brazil, the rest had to use their rowing paddles 😎
Classic supermax
@abbofun90 nicely put👌
As much as I respect Peter, he really has a huge blind spot regarding Norris.
Classic the way PW rips into Oscar for being 1cm over his gridspot and then asks who's done it before and the answer was Lando Norris who failed to get a penalty. Can't remember him ripping into Norris.
@@philg2468 this!!! He seems to dislike Oscar.
I want teams with 2 top drivers fighting each other.
Not a rerun of Schumacher vs a number 2 driver waving him through.
Some of the best racing is between teammates.
yep Peter adores Lando. He is Britain's golden boy. He can do no wrong in their eyes.
@@Sam-SW one of my favorite seasons in the merc era was Lewis vs Rosberg in '16. That was great to see, two amazing racers in the same machines.
@ yes! Great example. I get why some teams do it but from a fans point of view with no dog in the fight, same car, let’s see who the best is.
To know which driver will win between teammates every time is very dull.
In Dutch, there's a saying: 'Doe maar normaal, dan doe je al gek genoeg,' which translates to 'Just act normal, that's crazy enough.' Many Dutch people eschew the glitz and attention, and that's characteristic of Max. He doesn't care for all the show and star status.
"Lando improved his race starts" bro the guy messed up 3 race starts in a row back in brazil.
Lando has the checkmark on his passport that forces other checkers to compliment him. With approval of the British bureau of propaganda.
max has the senna factor but also the prost factor. he is not as rushed in races like before with time he come across more like prost in his driving but also can turn on the senna tap. a great blend of both drivers makes max a class apart.
He is more of a Schumacher as a package
Love this format!
Keep up the good work Cameron!
Cheers Bennie! 🍻
@@Cameron-Cc 😡😡💪💪
Cameron and Peter thanks for your speciality formula 1
I disagree with Peter on if it was Max in Lando's position with Oscar's overtake. Max wouldn't just assume that his team mate wasn't going to attempt an overtake; he would 100% make sure his team mate wasn't getting around him.
Give Max a winning car and he will win 99% of the time.. That's the difference between Max and anyone else.. He WILL win if you give him the machine to do it.
To be fair... Even Damon Hill won with the best car. 21' and 24' are more impressive.
@@edgardoMurnia The thing is that drivers like Max and Lewis will almost always win in a car that can deliver. That's why one have 7 titles and the other one have 4, they're both extremely consistent and that's what makes them special
@@NameMyCat Oh... TOTALLY. For sure.
@@edgardoMurniadid Damon Hill win 85% of the races?
@@NameMyCatLewis is on par with Schumacher when it comes to consistency. I feel Max has taken it to another level still. Even in 2021 Lewis had a few off weekends while Max finished P1 or P2 every race without damage/DNF.
Actually between 2020 and mid this year he had like 95% of his race finishes being a podium (mostly P1, 2-3 P3 and the rest P2).
It's blindingly obvious that RB strives to be no 1 at strategy calls - the rest just go through the motions. If the team lets Max down, you hear about it for a second - but they review it and don't make the same mistake.
I think Max's debrief performance - the way he slices and dices every performance even if he does well, better than expected etc. is beyond anything else we've seen.
I think he asks different questions like:
- could a call have resulted in a better finish?
- could we have data earlier on to take advantage of that in hindsight?
- was there a way to ensure an easier victory?
It's just on another level.
The first thing Max and GP were discussing in the car to the podium was the brake bias and that says it all...
i dont know whose idea was these videos,but i wait for it everytime.good job windsor is a legend
Too kind. All Mr Windsor
If Lewis Hamilton has also the "Feel" of grip outside the raceline, why is Max the only one showing it??
“How are you doing good sir?
It doesn’t matter how you are doing!!”
Let's GOOOOOOOOO!
Impossibly brilliant! 🤣
The respect for a certain Mr Peter D Windsor is very real
Only peter gets to answer that question! 😂
Cameron, I watch Brasil in the rain 16 and 24 when I need a bit of sun in my live
In the Rolls Royce, Lewis immediately found the make-up mirror. Also telling!😂
Max reminds me more of Michael Jordan’s mentality than almost any other athlete. If you piss him off, he keeps receipts and he’ll remind you of what you said. Every time somebody says something nasty he’s gonna use it as fuel. It’s in the best interest of his opponents to not do that.
Mj was the best ever!!!! Max is sooo good
Never saw nothing of Jordan, but yeah, if he has that mentality, that is the right mentality and basically the same as Max'.
I hope both Redbull and Ferrari is good next year. It will be great to see a rematch between Lewis and Max.
You mean a rematch between Leclerc and Max?
LH was good,but his age is the problem,like Alonso.
@@connorclarke1218I think Lewis is incredibly brave to take on Charles next season. I am a Max fan, but I have lots of respect for his decision. Personally, I think he will have his toughest team mate yet, one that is already fully rooted in the team. Will be interesting to see the wiley old fox vs. the young talent.
If it's Ferrari vs redbull, it'll be verstappens toughest season as he'll probably be racing against both ferrari's by himself 😂
@@adrianventer1447 We will have to wait and see,cos Ferrari has been saying this for years!! Ferrai =without cheats no wins!!!
great analysis of both, until PW got stuck in Lando ... he doesn't see the mistakes, and there are tons of them, not a few. Massive blind spot.
18:19 the post race interview by Barretto was so good. If anybody wants to have a look inside of Max, that’s the interview to watch.
If Charles is unsettled by Carlos how is he going to handle Lewis
Far superior driver to hamilton. Max is the same class as Senna, Bramham, Moss and Clark. A true 🐐
Bramham? MOss? Clark? Those are ANCIENT. Stop comparing Eras, let alone so far between them.
@edgardoMurnia It's not about the era, it's about how they outclassed their competition. 2024 will be an 'era' at some point, you 🤡
Verstappen and Fangio, you meant to say.
Hamilton literally outclassed a prime alonso as a rookie. 9 podiums out of 9 in his first 9 races as a rookie. that will never been seen again. Lewis is a born with natural ability in a family with no links to racing. its pure talent. If Max did not have a racing dad and all the advantages with that, he would not be a race driver. thats the difference. Just compare Lewis' teammates as well over the year. way stronger than Max. Max needs to prove himself against a top teammate with equal treatment.
@@ddha0000 Nah.... But yeah, Lewis is a GOAT WITHOUT A DOUBT (Like Schumacher before him, Like Senna, like Max).
In Max's alphabet the is no "F" as none are given when it comes to racing!
A,B,C,D,E,G.....
Well done Max!
That’s a different level of bravery. Truer words were never spoken, Mr. Cc: Hats off to you both. Best F1 conversation on the grid!
Congratulations M4X 4stappen ! 😊
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I’m sorry but the talk about sabotage for Lewis is so just old and draining at this point. Thanks Peter for at least bringing up that some of the same issues happen to George. He’s complained about the tires plenty of times. It shouldn’t be that hard for Lewis fans to just say that George is qualifying better but they just can’t…it’s pathetic.
a bit like how Max fans can't admit that Max had the best car for half a season then has only won 1 race in 12.
Great interview sitting here nodding like a Churchill dog in the back window of a Volkswagen 🐶👍
Cheers pack. Peter is always great copy. 🍺
I don’t know what it is but your voice is so soothing. As a native Dutch I learn a lot of new English words because of your vocabulary and your perfect pronunciation
Sjoerd as a fellow native Dutchie, i understand exactly what your saying here mate!
@ goed te horen Joost, hoor ik het echt goed. Gefeliciteerd hè met Max ;)
Lando will win a championship once Max retires😂😂😂😂
I said what I said 🤷
Uffffff.
Sad truth is that you might be right
Max will force Lando into retirement most likely
Well Max said it more then once he would like to do Le Mans, so I wouldn't be surprised if that happens within 4 years knowing his sim hobby 😉
Great content!
@19:40 correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Max say to Zak "Before you said I could only win in the fastest car, this year it's been a little different"?
Charles' frustration comes from year in and year out of driving for Ferrari and hearing how the team knows better than him, no matter what the circumstance.
This is not just about Sainz ... this is about Charles always taking the blame (being the nice guy) for everything Ferrari did to him.
@@theGoogol yeah Peter is talking out of his ass. He thinks he knows what Charles is thinking
But this is also the difference between Sainz and Leclerc. Sainz just says "no" and continues on if he thinks it is too early to pit, Leclerc comes in begrudgingly and complains after the race. I have seen the same thing with Lewis, coming in and then complaining that the tyres were still OK. I know they should trust the team, but then don't complain afterwards!
leclerc has to take thaty team by the nuts then. you think max would ever let rb treat him like that?
The slack that's cut for Lewis at times is unimaginable
I know Peter is a Goat, but I like it when teams let their drivers race. I know number 1\2 driver works and some teams favour that,but as a fan it's great seeing teammates going at it.
Im fine if rules are clear. Everybody knew Schumacher in Ferrari was favored and it made sense and paid off, as Ferrari got the BY FAR best driver of that generation.
What I don't like is this "we treat them equally" and then the N1 gets the upgrades, the car improvement on his liking, the priority on Qualys strategies etc. (RB; McLaren)
Just be clear about it and then Driver N2 can decide what to do and we can judge both racers fairly.
Before moving from midfield to their big teams. Nico Rosberg had 2 podiums. Sergio Perez had 10 podiums.
Also in 2022 Ferrari took 50% of the poles. In 2023 Red Bull still couldn't get pole 8 times. That's nowhere near the dominant car Lewis had.
Merc lost only 1 pole per year for 3 years. Most of Hamilton and Vettel's wins were from the front.
yes cause Ferrari could not look after it tires in 2022 and also ferrari messed up so many times in strategy. and are your seriously saying nico is not way better than perez??? you have got to be joking surely lol.
My favorite of your convo's with Peter yet Cameron! Perfect reference to MJ. What Lando said after Brazil probably fueled up Max's motivation meter for quite a while. I remember walking out of the 2023 Miami GP saying "that was a Jordan-esque performance - Max would accept nothing less than complete and utter humiliation of Perez" and getting heavily chided for daring the comparison.
I think Jos subsequently mentioned that after Perez's previous race win in Baku, Max said "I will never be beaten by him ever again". He basically took Perez's soul in Miami '23 and permanently broke Sergio Perez, to this very day.
Always appreciated Cameron!
There is only one person responsible for the failure to qualify and that name is Lewis...
Don't say that to a particular set of conspiracy thoerists Lewis Hamilton fans...
@@edgardoMurnia yes i know... They cant accept the true
@@bastordd to be fair, russell is probably quicker than Max
When it comes to George Russell Vs Lando Norris. Imo, George is clearly the superior driver. He’s more ruthless, has better raw pace, and is way more assertive/decisive in W2W battles and changing strategies in the moment and has already destroyed Lando before in F2.
As good as Oscar is, and as great as Oscar could be in the future. I don’t think he’d be as close to George as he was to Lando.
And I’d also say this, George has been tested again the 🐐 in Sir Lewis Hamilton. And is doing very well.
If this was Lando Vs Lewis in the same team, I don’t think Lando would be doing as well as George is doing against Lewis.
Agreed
As I see it Lando has more raw talent but needs to mature.
I think I see in Norris what Max sees in him; a future champion.
But he's not there yet., He needs to grow up.
Perhaps not on pure race pace, since Lando is absolutely rapid and George still has more shows to give to get on par there. But overall awareness/ strategic and all, George is probably above many out there on the grid. George might be a healthy mix of Lando on pace and Oscar in other things.
Perhaps a tiering model should be created over what has been seen this season.
How do you know the raw pace of Russell? That's only measured to Hamilton who had only Bottas to beat for many years.
@@theGoogol George would destroy Lando in the same team in my humble opinion. He's holding his own against Lewis in a much higher stress situation, he's got the expectation of merc fans disappointed in their performance a car that has a TINY operating window the scorn of LH fans and he still performs Lando on the other hand is in the most comfortable seat on the grid when it come's to the new generation of drivers and crumbles under the first sight of pressure he's not WC material of all the new generation i think George is best or Charles
Keep inviting Peter. He keeps the Signal to Noise ratio high
Awesome podcast! I enjoy the F1 updates coming through. Keep up the good work.
Always worth the wait!
Took me a while but found this great channel. Love it👍🏻😎
Cheers Andy. Glad you're enjoying.
Peter has now indirectly covered 2 initial D topics. Today was a discussion on Zero theory and previously discussed the "zone" aka the fujiwara zone. Amazes me how intricatly detailed initial D is when it comes to the world of racing.
I really enjoy this collaboration of my two favorite F1 channels!
Ah Southpaw. This means the most. 🍻
It is a blessing
I enjoyed listening to you two! Good format. Subscribed
Welcome Jake. Thank you for kind words
20:15 = DUTCH humor and directness. Don’t read too much into it. We are a blunt bunch of people.
Nonsense. Max is a southern boy (like myself) and we’re not blunt like the westerns. Bad language is not humor by the way.
@@aquaracer65Says the man who comes across as a blunt guy.. 😅😂
@@aquaracer65 To us north/west and south/ east we are very different. Comparred to the rest of the world we are simular. That blows your mind huh? Considering we live 200 km apart while the world spreads out 21.000 km 🤯
@@sutreBWhat a ridiculous comment. I am simply pointing out the significant cultural difference between the Northwest and south in the Netherlands. Like the difference between someone from London or from the north in the UK. It’s completely relevant to the first comment, unlike your remark. But that probably is beyond your comprehension.
@@aquaracer65 Wat jij wil joh. Wat mij betreft had Max net zo goed met een Belgische vlag kunnen (/kennen, zoals we in west-Friesland zeggen) rijden. Maar als je niet ziet dat specifieke deel typisch Nederlands is ben je stekeblind.
Thanks for the chat with Peter.
I just picked up on one point that Peter made though.
So Hamilton is going to Ferrari just to drive a Ferrari? And not to have a final fee shots at getting a record breaking 8th championship!?
This doesn't seem to chime with his personality or ambition. I say that because if he just wanted to carry on driving a decent top tier car he could have seen our his stay with mercedes... Worked with them to get the best car and team, had George as a great team pairing and have a shot.. especially with 2026 coming, new regs.. new challenges.. he has actually won a few races this year..
So going to Ferrari to " win a few races etc? Not sure.
Mercedes does not know why their car was so fast. For the future, you cannot build on lack of knowledge.
charles maybe still feeling the effect of the ferrari pit wall meme team, and OG driver teamate next year even if they ever have championship machinery will be a dog fight
Well. He's not clearly defeating Carlos Sainz... so I would also be a bit anxious knowing a freaking GOAT, even if past his prime, is coming next year
The first 20 seconds of this video is so so true about Lando. I 100% agree Lando should get off platforms and just dig the F in and race hard. He can win, while Max is still on the grid too.
Cam the beacon of truth. thank you
@@JS-ll8nk not drinking that Lando cool aid
You two are an authentic duo. Interesting combination of personalities
Top-tier content! I thoroughly enjoy watching these two.
Great podcast with Peter as always, thank you both!
19:30 you extremely misworded what they said and didnt include the necessary context.
Norris can't be tough because he isn't tough. He will never be an F1 champion.
He might...but if it happens then probably only once with an outright faster car. But on pure skill...no.
If he takes the Rosberg route he might (one season with complete focus and a sports therapist, and of course a race winning car). He would also need to be a bit lucky with which drivers have good cars
It's his pit wall being undecisive as well. He cannot rely on the strategies and there is trust missing.
People aren't just born tough though, it's something that can be developed, whose to say lando isn't tough in a few years time?
If you only take off Max, he is a champion. The key thing on this isn't about Norris. It is about Max.
9:28 I think that was track evolution In a negative way, they also complained about that. It was getting colder and colder.
this is great . love windsor analyst
He's the goatiest
Pete is delusional about Lando sorry but it’s not all the team it’s both
Great article and agree with the Max statements however, why has Peter Windsor got such a set against Oscar Piastri??? He doesn’t mind potting him and ‘poor Lando’ being hurt by Piastri. Has Oscar run over Peter’s cat?
Obviously tire temps are an issue for lewis on his outlaps but I think he pushes the car too hard. As other drivers have said you have to drive the car at 95% because these cars or tires aren't forgiving. If you over heat the tires one time then it's game over and it's easy to overheat them.
33:50 surely Ayrton's drive at Portugal 1985 was more impressive.. he lapped the entire field
Windsor is unencumbered by hate which makes him a trusted voice of F1.
Norris & Russell are at different level. Russell has a better grip of what's going around him and has & shares his assessment or opinions with assertiveness with team. Norris (& Leclerc) depends on team to make decisions & has self doubt about his own assessment or opinion. Even Sainz is very clear about his own assessment & opinion.
I think Peter as much as he has criticized Lando wants him to win like everyone. Lando does not deserve to win he is ok driver at best let alone world champion. So I think everyone including Peter should stop talking about Lando probably winning as that will never happen.
Watching your vids featuring Justin and then one with Peter is like "Gordon Ramsay kids vs adults" 🤣
Good talk guys, enjoyed that. Good point from Peter about comparing drivers from different eras.
Probably around minute 20 he’ll bring up abudhabi ‘21 😂
Nice work gents.
I don't think you can blame McLaren for getting two very good drivers. We have to keep remembering that when Piastri joined McLaren, they main mission wat to secure P4 (or better) in the constructors championship. Suddenly the last 18 months they made enormous strides forward and suddenly find themselves also fighting in the drivers championship. McLaren and Alpine were both searching for drivers that if one has a bad day, the other takes home the points. Norris and Piastri are doing that, same with Leclerc/Sainz and Hamilton/Russel. This is clearly not the case with Red Bull. But for Red Bull the constructors championship isn't that important as the drivers championship because that one gets all the attention and unlike the other top teams, Red Bull doesn't sell cars (excluding the RB17), but cans of energy drink. Even the headlines of Perez not performed shines a spotlight on Red Bull. Last year the difference in price money between P1 (Red Bull - $140M) and P4 (McLaren - $113M) was only 27 million dollars. Not only brings he Carlos Slim and a lot of money, Perez also sells a lot of merchandise and cans in Central- and South America. Watch the podium ceremonies back in Miami and Austin and listen what name the crowd was shouting. Now, of course Horner and his team would love to win the constructors championship, but for the parent company that is not the primary focus. But even when they replace Perez with another driver (Lawson or Tsunoda), do we really think we are going to see other results than with Gasly, Albon or Perez? Verstappen makes every teammate look like an amateur.
I think Brazil 2016 was Max his best race, but Brazil 2024 was more impressive because when he made most of his overtakes, Norris was still at the front and Max in damage limitation mode. In 2016 he was only racing for glory, same as in Hockenheim 2019, also a great rain drive. However in 2024 had a championship to win and in my opinion that makes it more impressive...
While Red Bull/Max was not fighting for titles prior to 2021, they had plenty of races (usually near the end of the season) where they picked up the odd race or two. Lando won his first race in F1 in Miami this year and it looked like Max was happier than Lando himself. Between 2016 and 2020 Max made plenty of mistakes, but he had time to master the art of driving. I'm sure that Norris is also championship material, but you do not become a champion over night. And yes, sometimes a little bit of luck is needed. Like during Max his first race for RB in Spain where both Mercedes drivers collided and Ricciardo has a bad pitstop and Max won during his first race. But in 2015 Max and Carlos where not that far apart, and who does not remember the 'NOOO!!' from he was asked to switch positions with Carlos.
Lastly, to defend Leclerc a little bit, Charles was reacting to what he saw and at that time was not aware that Ferrari F'ed up again by not being ready (Guys, wake up!) for pitting Carlos and it cost Carlos a lot of time and this caused that the two were close to each other on track. We really need to learn to give drivers some slack if they come out of the car and before they had a change to discuss anything, they need to ask questions from reporters and than anything is taken out of context. Same with Norris 'luck' comment after the brazil race...
You can se that Peter is in love with Lewis. The bright in his eyes when he talks about him!
Now that Damon is out Sky needs to bring in Peter. Miss him from the Speed TV days.
I still don't think any of the so-called GOATs would have beaten Senna in the same machinery, on the same day. To me he was just the most perfect combination of skill, IQ, commitment and competitive spirit I will ever see in a race car in my life. Senna regularly made some great drivers, in great cars, look ordinary. I don't recall a time that Verstappen has done that and same could be said of Hamilton.
i mean, there are plenty of races of hamilton come to mind. silverstone 2008, probably the greatest wet weather performance in history and everyone look silly or turkey 2020 which was a masterclass to name just 2.
@@ddha0000 better than Senna at Donington Park in 1993? 4th to 1st in one lap, passing Shumacher and Prost in the process.
I haven't seen anyone make the comparrison yet, but i likely just missed it. however when I look at Max' mentality towards racing and his no-nonsense attitude with the media is pretty much exactly how Kimi Raikkonen was. They're there to race first and foremost, everything else is secondairy. The main difference I can see is that while Kimi lowkey hated the media/PR side of things and saw it as necessary evil part of F1, while Max has far less problems with it.
Hasn’t Peter never seen Ayrton Senna drive in the rain???????
What a pair!! Let’s go!🎉
Every LEWIS,MAX,LEC,RUS,ALBON,GASLY,NORIS,PIA,ALFONSO,BOTAS AND OTHERS THEY GOT A TALENT. NOW TEAM STRATEGY AND CAR POWER.
Nigel and Senna must have been Hungary 1989. Nige in the Ferrari coming from P12 on the grid to win the race, without DRS! His move on Senna was brilliant.
I agree with Peter most of the time but this Lando thing I don't . Lando lost points on his own most of the time
Find somebody who loves you the way Peter Windsor loves Carlos Reutermann
Portugal 85 that Peter mentions Mansell's performance as the greatest wet driving ever happens to be the very 1st victory of Ayrton Senna, when he scored nothing less than a grand slam lapping the whole grid up to 3rd position, including Nigel of course. Alboreto who finish 2nd was the one and only driver to manage to not get lapped by Senna, ending +1m02.978s behind. Everybody else lapped. And he mentions Mansell's performance as the most incredible wet weather drive, in that very race? That`s silly man..
Valteri Bottas and Kimmi Rikonnen are both prime examples of simply racing drivers
None of what is Lando's fault? Oh come on Peter! How? With all the errors? You can praise a driver when he's doing well but you also have to call him out when he's making errors.
Loving Mr Windsor, wise man and good insights. The F1 community should listen and learn.
I concur.
Massive Lando fanboy too.
@@edgardoMurnia he speaks highly of many drivers I guess.
@@Pmor75 It's not about that. It's about telling the Norris story in the way that totally puts Lando in the best possible light, always putting Lando as either a victim of others faults or "forgetting" to mention the incredible amount of mistakes he made that cost him points/positions
@edgardoMurnia ok got it.👍🏾
I agree with a lot of what Windsor says, very knowledgeable, however I can't understand the take on the start in Hungary. Oscar got the better start. What was he supposed to do?
Windsor really hates Oscar for existing. Lol. Cameron is as weak as piss for allowing him to constantly defame Piastri. Looking forward to him winning many races and annoying Windsor endlessly.
McLaren weren't disappointing at all. They didn't have the car this week and 5th and 6th was always the best they could do. Oscar didn't deserve a penalty as he wasn't over the line. Windsor still bringing up McLaren getting rid of Riicciardo and bringing up Hungary and Monza is laughable. He's a petty old fool.
You can say all that while being a little more respectful... no? Just a little (I totally agree with everything by the way)
Always enjoy the Peter chats and good to hear him say that Mclaren ruined Lando's chances, because nobody else is in broadcasting.
... they aren't saying it because it's not true as Lando made way too many mistakes himself to even start considering the team failures, which do exist.
@@edgardoMurnia Team orders and allowing Piastri dumb overtakes, etc... Do you actually watch F1?🙄
@@JeanneJames Did you know Lando lost every but one pole position? Just one against Piastri (Monza).
Did you know Piastri was dominating Hungary and clearly was going to win but McLaren prioritized the lesser driver of the day to get a 1-2 and then "nice boy" Lando didn't want to give the position back?
Did you actually watch or you just listen to Lando fanboy PWinds?
@@edgardoMurnia We all have our views. I haven't the time to engage in toing and froing with you.
@@JeanneJames Then shut up
Peter put it exactly right, if Charles wants things to go his way, he better outqualify his teammate. Man up.
One thing I'll add since it's clearly not understood outside the U.S. is how politics could've been involved in the GM/Cadillac decision and its timing: the ONLY likely political angle to it could be a concern the new administration will be even more aggressive and determined to investigate anti-competitive activity by F1. This isn't a Democrat-Republican thing - nobody is getting political credit for this (except possibly Jim Jordan).
In the U.S. a congressional inquiry/letter is entirely independent from the DOJ criminal investigation. While Jim Jordan was the catalyst, the DOJ shouldn't expand a cursory examination to an actual investigation solely because of that. Yes, the current DOJ has been more politically active than any in recent memory, but political motivations are still the exception, not the rule. The outcome should've been the same regardless of who won - and in my opinion it would've been.
Maybe it sped it up because Liberty/F1 anticipated more problems quicker given the current political reality, but I don't see how the end result (for now at least) wasn't inevitable.
Carlos has spent this whole year belaboring the point that maybe he should be staying at Ferrari, not Charles.
Charles is furious because he cant beat and out qualify Carlos adding that he is expecting the team will give him a better tuned or optimized or shall I say a superior CAR than Carlos to show the F1 world that he is faster than anyone else in the grid let alone to Carlos before Lewis joining next year. Now how he can expect Ferrari to favor him over Lewis if in the last few races he was besten most of the time by an underrated driver who is leaving the team whom he thought should not get those favorable results. Peter is right about his over ranting after the race, that its a combine frustrations from him but I guess he has some grudge to Carlos from over taking him and showing disrespectful that he is fast if not the fastest among them. But Kudos to the World Champion that until the end he didn’t crack instead he showed to his peers that he is the best among them from wet to dry his skills and driving talent is far superior than anyone even he has an inferior or a slow CAR but can still find a way to win and fullfil his goal that is to win the Championship. That is the mindset of a true Champion. Next year he’s still the man for me to win his fifth .
Charles’ reaction uncalled for??? After years of being shat on by his own team lmao. Get a grip
Not agree with the loss of points , Lando lost points due to ML but even more through own faults
Sometimes we forget they are human. We need to give them a break
And that's what makes them millionaires for better and worse.
I thought that was there skill