In my thoughts, the demons in Doom Eternal are suppose to be a cross of their 90s, Doom 3, and 2016 versions. Here are some examples. The Pinky still has it's body structure from Doom (2016), but it has the yellow eyes of the og versions. The Revenant has the armor and head structure of the original, the green eyes look like the ones from Doom 3, and it retains its jet pack from the 2016 Doom. The Imp has the body structure of Doom (2016), and the red eyes of the original. The Cacodemon has its eye pupil of the 90s version but has the arms of the 2016 version. The Solider has the arm cannon like the Doom 2016 one, but looks more like the original. What are your thoughts? Edit: Here's some more that I thought of. The Cyber demon/Tyrant although looking more like the original does have some of it's attacks from Doom 2016 like the missiles being launched into the air and coming back down, the flaming sword attack, and the laser attack. The Hell Knight has its color pattern like the one in Doom 2016, and the eyes make it resemble a bit like the ones in Doom 3. The Mancubus has the attack pattern like in Doom 2016, but it looks more like the original.
Actually in DOOM 3, those Lost Souls became looking like the classic ones in later campaigns instead of humanoid heads. I'm not kidding! Play it for yourselves!
Doom 64's demons weapons and player appearance were originally 3D models, but due to the limitations of the time they were made into sprites similiarly to Mario Kart 64's Kart's sprites. Unfortunately this also meant they lost a lot of their original quality, and the original models are considered lost
Plus it's the only doom game that is made by midway company . Now it get remade. AND now it stills holds up 4k 60 to 120 frames, no bugs no slow downs just pure killing action
@@tuiver_tim8684 "DOOM" means punishment/condemned (in hell) that what's exactly happening in DOOM 3, where when you a regular marine tryin' to survive in mars city (and later in hell) trapped with demon and zombie hordes. the fundamental of horror concept changes the DOOM aspect but the creepiness and uniqueness of DOOM 3 was totally impressive and made this game successful at its time. Dr. betruger is the best villain/main antagonist in all DOOM games. his evil attitude and maniacal laugh is hilarious but at the same time he has a dark power over demons to summon/command them by controlling the power of hell and unleashing those monsters to ambush the fearless marine. for me, this is the best DOOM game ever. it's pure of fun and replayability.
My top is doom 2016 revenant, awesome 6:01 Second place Doom 3 pinky 11:06 Doom 3 Tirano also impressive 19:20 All aracnics in eternal looks flawless Thanks for the video.
estamos de acuerdo en que los pinky demons y las lost souls son adorables en todas las versiones de doom, excepto en doom 3 ahí si parecen estar hechos de tus peores pesadillas
I wish the Pain Elemental in Eternal was like the Doom 64 version. That thing's double mouths, horse mane, and evil cackle always freaked me out when I was a kid
Gua! Los Demonios de el Doom de 2016 son magistrales! No sé porqué les cambiaron de aspecto, en el anterior eran muy buenos. Lo mismo pasó en PvZ GW2 y en los siguientes. Doom 2016 tiene los mejores demonios. :')
Te entiendo, los de doom Eternal no están mal pero prefiero el cacodemon del 2016 y el mancubus por mucho el de eternal (primera vez que veo un revenant del 64, me encanto el estilo)
En cuanto a texturas, yo creo que tuvieron que reducir un poquito las texturas de los demonios porque en Eternal se puedes despedazar con disparos antes de matarlos... Lo cual a mi gusto es mejor, pues te da una idea de cuánto daño les haces y se ve genial :3
Never really played Doom 64, but after watching this I think it had the best looking art style for all of the demons hands down. Dark and gritty, just how Doom should be. I love Doom eternal, it just feels too cartoon like (especially now seeing how Doom 64 demons looked)
Doom 64 tiene a los revenants? Nunca los había visto También me encantaron los diseños de los demonios en Doom eternal son una mezcla de todos los juegos
@@thenincastiano7565 ami el IMp de Doom3 me hizo sentir asco y creo que es por esa sensación de Tripofobia por tantos ojos, y mi Personaje Favorito el Caballero del Infierno, se mira Horrible, se mueve super lento y pareciera que tiene tumor y le quitaron los cuernos =(...
El reverant de Brutal doom64 es un Fan Sprite, no es Oficial lamentablemente, se filtro hace tiempo un Sketch o Beseto del Archiville para Doom64, tenia parecido a Olivia Pierce de Doom 2016
@@EdgarIX seeh, el Hell Knight no se ve tanto como un Hell Knight, pero es bastante intimidante en mi opinión, deberían volverlo un demonio aparte, tu que dices?
@@ricardoflores2418 Doom eternal si la quieres pasar esquivando y con heavy metal matando a miles y más weas Pero el 3 no me gustó por la razón de lo tan oscuro (de luz) y no se sentía como un doom pero con algo de miedo xd
The Arachnotron didn't Appear in Doom 2016 and The Summoner and the Archvile are two different demons just because they do the same ability doesn't mean they're the same.
Opino lo mismo, se supone que un demonio es algo abominable, una criatura salida del infierno (un lugar que se supone que es horrible), algo con lo que no te gustaría encontrarte, en Doom 3 los demonios son eso y más, mientras que en Doom 4 parecen aliens salidos de algún Cómic o algo, por ejemplo: no me puedes decir que el Mancubus de Doom 4 no parece un alien .____. (lo del cómic es debido a que son demasiado coloridos)
Y como olvidar el echo de que en Doom 4 hay un Mancubus que pareciera que llevará unos lentes de realidad virtual xd, lo cual no los hace intimidantes, los hace (en mi opinión) graciosos xD
En doom 4 lo querían hacer un poco mas al original y creativo al mismo tiempo mientras que eternal fue puro clásico. Aunque de todas formas eres el slayer, no veo por que te deberían asustar los demonios
@@ciudadanodeunpaislibre9922 exacto, porque habría de asustarle los Demonios? Porque enviarle demonios con complejo de pokemones y no verdaderas bestias? Total, el no se asusta (no en serio, el que se asusta es el jugador, no el avatar en Doom 3, no mamen)
QQQQQQQQQQue pasa con los diseñadores gráficos ? No se si será porque los pixeles de el primer Doom me transmiten mas opciones de imaginación, y así amoldarlo a mi gusto, pero en cuanto a los diseñadores siento que se van, a veces... por las ramas, cambian hasta no ser lo que realmente el doom 1 representaba y queria mostrar, siento que por querer exhibir algunos detalles graficos "modernos" , exajeran de más las articulaciones, tendones etc, pero se olvidan de que sacan de contexto la forma de esas razas, y se convierten en algo que no son. combinacion
Theory: The cacodemon sprite and the pain elemental sprite were accidentally switched in Doom 64.
That is what I think
@@dinowithastickgaming2763 I'm your alt
But how did cacodemon's sprite was attacking with lost souls and Pain Elemental attacked with fireball then?
Dinowithastck V3 so v1 and v3 are here but *what happened to v2?* is it a “he’s just not here” or “we don’t speak of v2” situation?
@@Thecloaker_ he died
1,2 and 64: Classics bois
Doom3: creepy
Doom2016: Coolest demons
Eternal: Like 1 and 2 but *FULL HD 8K*
stolen comment and made less funny
Doom 2016 is 8k too
Idk man, imp in eternal looks way different
@@ILoveSuperVideoGames well, thats right
@@fadead1287 and chaingun guy sadly had no other appearances than just doom 2
Doom 3's models are legitimately terrifying.
That's what they were going for after all
exept the revnent hes still a bony boy but now he looks more like spooky scary seklotons skeloton look
Yes
Exept some of them mancubus,cacodemon and revenet
What i love about Eternal the most is that it sticks so much to the source material of DOOM 1 and 2. It's literally the ultimate fanservice game.
The Pain Elemental from Doom 64 still hasn't been topped. Absolutely terrifying!
I play doom 64 doom one and doom two
His mullet is the most terrifying thing of all
Well, the Eternal version takes some inspiration from it, at least.
Man doom3 demons are pure nightmare full
No there shit did you see what they did to the funny meatball demon
The Doom 64 revenant was the creepiest of all the revenants though.
That one’s not official tho. Someone took the Tchernobog sprite from blood and slapped on a different head and rocket launchers
I loved the inclusion of the Brutal Doom 64 Spider mastermind & Revenant, which were cut from the original Doom 64.
DOOM?
They should've put the Doom 3 Pain Elemental and the Doom 3 Baron Of Hell in the video then.
I never noticed that the Cacodemon from 64 looks like the Pain Elemental from 1 and 2. Somewhat.....
ya it realy does with the arms and face shape
Somewhat Inconvenient... am I right?
I’m pretty sure someone messed up there.
Actually there were no pain elementals in doom 1
@@kangmandoo499 notice he seid Doom 1 and Doom 2
In my thoughts, the demons in Doom Eternal are suppose to be a cross of their 90s, Doom 3, and 2016 versions. Here are some examples.
The Pinky still has it's body structure from Doom (2016), but it has the yellow eyes of the og versions.
The Revenant has the armor and head structure of the original, the green eyes look like the ones from Doom 3, and it retains its jet pack from the 2016 Doom.
The Imp has the body structure of Doom (2016), and the red eyes of the original.
The Cacodemon has its eye pupil of the 90s version but has the arms of the 2016 version.
The Solider has the arm cannon like the Doom 2016 one, but looks more like the original.
What are your thoughts?
Edit: Here's some more that I thought of.
The Cyber demon/Tyrant although looking more like the original does have some of it's attacks from Doom 2016 like the missiles being launched into the air and coming back down, the flaming sword attack, and the laser attack.
The Hell Knight has its color pattern like the one in Doom 2016, and the eyes make it resemble a bit like the ones in Doom 3.
The Mancubus has the attack pattern like in Doom 2016, but it looks more like the original.
I think you have right
@@Oliwier-gh1on Sorry, I don't know what you mean by "I think you have right", can you please explain in a full sentence.
Mucho texto
@@bernardok7873 lol
The hell knight from doom 2016 is the hell knight from doom 3. That’s the 1 thing doom 3 did right: give us badass hell knights.
Doom I and II: *Normal*
Doom 64: *Different Mode*
Doom 3: *Dead Space Version*
Doom 2016: *4K Mode*
Doom Eternal: *RTX On*
Actually in DOOM 3, those Lost Souls became looking like the classic ones in later campaigns instead of humanoid heads. I'm not kidding! Play it for yourselves!
Technically those were called the forgotten ones but they’re basically a lost soul in every way but name
Los del Doom 3 normal son solo caras con dientes afilados, los del Doom 3 RoE si son más parecidos a los clásicos
Doom 64's demons weapons and player appearance were originally 3D models, but due to the limitations of the time they were made into sprites similiarly to Mario Kart 64's Kart's sprites.
Unfortunately this also meant they lost a lot of their original quality, and the original models are considered lost
Plus it's the only doom game that is made by midway company . Now it get remade.
AND now it stills holds up
4k 60 to 120 frames, no bugs no slow downs just pure killing action
To be honest the doom 64 demons still look good even in sprite form
I like how Eternal made the demons look like a blend of 2016's designs and the original designs. It's very neat.
the monsters of Doom 2016 are the ones that are the coolest
I like them too, but there's a special place in my heart that will always love the original monsters. ^^,
* worst
Tbh I like the 64 sprites better
most of them look stupid
Yes
I like how the revenant stays pretty much consistent through every game.
Even Doom 3 didn’t bother making compromises on him being a walking skeleton.
I loved the doom 3 ones look scarier than the others
I hate doom 3, it's not doom anymore, it's more of a horror game now
@@tuiver_tim8684 yes that's the point of doom 3, they were trying to make it into a horror game mixed with action
@@tuiver_tim8684 "DOOM" means punishment/condemned (in hell) that what's exactly happening in DOOM 3, where when you a regular marine tryin' to survive in mars city (and later in hell) trapped with demon and zombie hordes. the fundamental of horror concept changes the DOOM aspect but the creepiness and uniqueness of DOOM 3 was totally impressive and made this game successful at its time.
Dr. betruger is the best villain/main antagonist in all DOOM games. his evil attitude and maniacal laugh is hilarious but at the same time he has a dark power over demons to summon/command them by controlling the power of hell and unleashing those monsters to ambush the fearless marine.
for me, this is the best DOOM game ever. it's pure of fun and replayability.
@@emildelapena979 ong
Doom always was a horror game @@tuiver_tim8684
My top is doom 2016 revenant, awesome 6:01
Second place Doom 3 pinky 11:06
Doom 3 Tirano also impressive 19:20
All aracnics in eternal looks flawless
Thanks for the video.
Doom 3 is legit just a horror game.
and amazing too
Same for 64.
@@Marvin_Aethos agree
Nope use console commands to speed up walkspeed/runspeed/jump and its better than 2016 & eternal
Yet the doom eternal demons look scarier
Man this really makes me want to play all Doom games!!!
Doom 3's art style was fucking amazing, I see nothing wrong with it
Don't use words like " *FUCK* "
Cry about it
@@nydip8131 doom 3 best
That marine is in an expansion to doom 3 you know
The soulless eyes of some demons in 2016 is actually intimidating
Al3x playzMC and then you remember your playing as the doom slayer.
Al3x playzMC
They are demons after all
But well caco's eye looks fucking terrifying and I hate it
The imp from dooms 1 2 and 64 have no bussiness being that thicc.
You clearly didnt pay attention to the 2020 Mancubus
The clap of his cheeks keep alerting the Doom Slayer
@@M.A.R.S. I mean Mancubus is always gonna be thicc. But the imp had no business being that thicc.
@@em5345- r/cursed comments
64 ass 😳😳😳😳😳😳
estamos de acuerdo en que los pinky demons y las lost souls son adorables en todas las versiones de doom, excepto en doom 3 ahí si parecen estar hechos de tus peores pesadillas
I wouldn’t say adorable but they could I could see them as marketable plushies.
8:03
doom 2: you
doom 64: your crush
doom eternal: the one she tells you not to worry about
How did the caco demon turn into a pain elemental in doom 64
Doom 1 character model and walk animation is pretty nice 😊
Doom 3 was so good. Scary as hell!
We really need some Doom 64 representation in the form of Doom Slayer/weapon/demon skins for Doom Eternal.
certainly a skin for the original unmaker would be nice...
Incredible showcase,except for texture filtering
I can’t help but notice how the cyberdemon from doom 2016 reminds me of megatron
That's awesome that you Updated it. Es increíble que lo hayas actualizado.
doom 3 models are impressive for the time and also the scariest but very different, overall doom 2016 models are the best
Doom 3: 💀
It's terrifying than, and terrifying now, stil.
IT SEEMS LIKE IM NOT THE ONLY SPY!
@Sneaky FrenchMan THAT SPY IS NOT ONE OF US
I wish the Pain Elemental in Eternal was like the Doom 64 version. That thing's double mouths, horse mane, and evil cackle always freaked me out when I was a kid
But in eternal he's not supposed to be scary, he literally moves like cartoony grumpy old man
Atleast hes funny
His mullet always freaked me out
I love Doom 3 dark vibes
The music playing is from 64. Always haunted me as a kid playing that game in the dark.
I know people hate it but I thoroughly enjoyed Doom 3
Never played it but the hell happened in DOOM 3? Did they go through some weird puberty or something?
Also why does the cacodemons from DOOM 64 look like pain elementals?
Doom 3 is more of a survival horror shooter. So the demons look more pale and scary compared to other versions.
Doom 3 makes it look like the marines went to black mesa
7:10 omg she is too cute to kill
until it you notice you have a lot more holes in your body than you remembered...
Wtf
Gua! Los Demonios de el Doom de 2016 son magistrales! No sé porqué les cambiaron de aspecto, en el anterior eran muy buenos. Lo mismo pasó en PvZ GW2 y en los siguientes. Doom 2016 tiene los mejores demonios. :')
Te entiendo, los de doom Eternal no están mal pero prefiero el cacodemon del 2016 y el mancubus por mucho el de eternal (primera vez que veo un revenant del 64, me encanto el estilo)
En cuanto a texturas, yo creo que tuvieron que reducir un poquito las texturas de los demonios porque en Eternal se puedes despedazar con disparos antes de matarlos... Lo cual a mi gusto es mejor, pues te da una idea de cuánto daño les haces y se ve genial :3
I actually got all of these games but I have to say 2016 has the best design
Mancubus looks really cool in doom 3
Son muy imponentes esos enemigos
I was about to say something about opening with the Doomguy, and then stopped myself with: "Wait, he actually is the biggest monster of them all."
Doom 2016 has the best Hell Knight design
doesnt even have eyes.
Basically, Doom 3's Hell Knight
@@romerovazquezarmando1707and doom 3’s hell knight was better because it had a more bleak and dull coloring, stripping it of character or personality.
Hell Knight deserves a more accurate modern design to me, like the Cyber Demon in Doom Eternal…
0:11 That is not Doom 3's Doom Marine. That is Resurrection of Evil marine but not Doom 3, which is a completely different person.
Doom 64: *Purple*
Never really played Doom 64, but after watching this I think it had the best looking art style for all of the demons hands down. Dark and gritty, just how Doom should be. I love Doom eternal, it just feels too cartoon like (especially now seeing how Doom 64 demons looked)
agreed, but the revenants and mastermind weren’t in doom 64.... don’t know why they included modded in enemies here...
they look stupid
Yes
@@peabrain6872 no
@@gg_mydog968 yes
5:50 doom 64 never had a revenant, but what the hell is this?
Dude what happened to classic doom 1 and 2's doomguy helmet? It became so goofy for some reason
Doom 3 seems to be a lot more horror-themed. Weird.
Because it was meant to be a horror game with some action in it, they even have a vent part where demons jump out at you, it was designed to be horror
doom 3 feels like it would be better as a separate survival horror franchise
Nose por qué pero los demonios del doom 3 se me a figuran más a alienigenas que a demonios xD
Si me hermano me lo dijo una vez cuando vio al imp
Doom 3 demons were nightmare fuel
Doom 3 did the Cadodemon dirty!
What is the music used here? It's oddly soothing.
There is literally no song just this creepy vibe ambience which scares me lol
some of doom 2016 ambience did scare me a bit I was thinking a demon was pop out of no where
3:00 bro hear me out
Doom 64 tiene a los revenants?
Nunca los había visto
También me encantaron los diseños de los demonios en Doom eternal son una mezcla de todos los juegos
Doom 64 no tiene los revenants solo en la versión de Brutal Doom 64
A mi me gustan bastante los demonios de Doom 3, siento que se ven más como demonios
@@thenincastiano7565 ami el IMp de Doom3 me hizo sentir asco y creo que es por esa sensación de Tripofobia por tantos ojos, y mi Personaje Favorito
el Caballero del Infierno, se mira Horrible, se mueve super lento y pareciera que tiene tumor y le quitaron los cuernos =(...
El reverant de Brutal doom64 es un Fan Sprite, no es Oficial lamentablemente, se filtro hace tiempo
un Sketch o Beseto del Archiville para Doom64, tenia parecido a Olivia Pierce de Doom 2016
@@EdgarIX seeh, el Hell Knight no se ve tanto como un Hell Knight, pero es bastante intimidante en mi opinión, deberían volverlo un demonio aparte, tu que dices?
2:07
here is the time stamp for chompy boi
Doom 64 revenant looks like what you would see in a nightmare
Unfortunately that's just a mod. DOOM 64 don't actually have a Revenant, Archvile, Chain Gunners and etc.
Doom 2's Revenant just hittin that sick whip
Doom 64 demons scared me as a child and still scare me more than any of the other games. The atmosphere was also the creepiest in my opinion
I can imagine the doom 3 hunter just rolling up to you and saying in a strained voice "hullo"
El Doom Slayer del 2016 está re duro jajaja
mas aun el del doom 3 xD
jajaja
Cuál me recomiendas, ¿Doom Eternal o Doom 3?
@@ricardoflores2418 ambos
@@ricardoflores2418 Doom eternal si la quieres pasar esquivando y con heavy metal matando a miles y más weas
Pero el 3 no me gustó por la razón de lo tan oscuro (de luz) y no se sentía como un doom pero con algo de miedo xd
¿Por qué el cacodemon de Doom64 tiene cadenas?
Para verse más amenazantes
Yo pensaba que era un elemental del dolor
You forgot some but the baron of hell does appear on Doom 3 he's just the hell knight from Doom 3 just darker and Lil red
No, it's just how Hell Knights look like in Hell
@@BrunoSantos-jp1lvcorrect
Any plans to Bioshock 2 Switch’s version?
this just shows how insanely different the doom 3 models and doom 64 sprites were lol
Doom 3's models are just eyes everywhere
Eh, only on the imp and cacodemon really
The Doom 64 Revenant looks a bit like Chernobog from Blood! :D
But what about the Spectres, and the Zombie Shotgunners and Chaingunners?
To be honest, I think 2016's cyber mancubus really says "Cyber", Eternal's looks good too
Can you make Serious Sam monsters evolution
Commando Zombie From DOOM 3 Is Based Of Zombie Soldier Of Serious Sam.
Where's icon of sin
DOOM 3 has 2 types of Lost soul, the Resurrection of Evil DLC has the "Forgotten One" which is basically a DOOM I/II Lost Soul
Doom 64 loses a ton of charm when not played on a CRT in a dark room
Doom 2016 imp: *NICE DANCE MOVES BRO*
It's not Doom 3 marine, it's a marine from RoE.
What is RoE?
@@ikaiju-eu9wn Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil
@@МусорноеВедроСмертныхГрехов ok
Same thing tho init
@@jenniferdunstan5065 nah the protags in doom 3 and RoE are different
I love doom
Yes
7:21 you forgot the Arachnotron from Doom 2016 and the summoner at 16:02, he’s arch-vile but idk why they changed his name
The Arachnotron didn't Appear in Doom 2016 and The Summoner and the Archvile are two different demons just because they do the same ability doesn't mean they're the same.
doom 64 pain elementals are terrorific
This was your chance to compare the Doom 64 Nightmare Imps to 2016 and Eternal’s Prowler demon and you didn’t 😢
That's not Doom 64, that's Brutal Doom 64 with the one with the Revenant
@James WESTON said what?
8:21 didn't know Squidword was in doom 3
I dont remember Revenant being in DOOM 64
Can someone tell me the name of the background soundtrack for this please?
Why'd you show the Brutal Doom 64 Revenant but not the Doom 3 Pain Elemental?
There's two main characters in Doom 3. The one you showed is from Resurrection of evil
El mas realista con los demonios es el doom 3,el doom 2016 y eternal lo veo ya como un final fantasy xd.
Opino lo mismo, se supone que un demonio es algo abominable, una criatura salida del infierno (un lugar que se supone que es horrible), algo con lo que no te gustaría encontrarte, en Doom 3 los demonios son eso y más, mientras que en Doom 4 parecen aliens salidos de algún Cómic o algo, por ejemplo: no me puedes decir que el Mancubus de Doom 4 no parece un alien .____. (lo del cómic es debido a que son demasiado coloridos)
Y como olvidar el echo de que en Doom 4 hay un Mancubus que pareciera que llevará unos lentes de realidad virtual xd, lo cual no los hace intimidantes, los hace (en mi opinión) graciosos xD
En doom 4 lo querían hacer un poco mas al original y creativo al mismo tiempo mientras que eternal fue puro clásico. Aunque de todas formas eres el slayer, no veo por que te deberían asustar los demonios
@@ciudadanodeunpaislibre9922 exacto, porque habría de asustarle los Demonios? Porque enviarle demonios con complejo de pokemones y no verdaderas bestias? Total, el no se asusta (no en serio, el que se asusta es el jugador, no el avatar en Doom 3, no mamen)
@@thenincastiano7565 xd simon, a mi honestamente me gusto mas el diseño que tomo eternal y 2016 pero aun así los de doom 3 son muy buenos diseños
All of Doom 3 designs are like
Upgrade
Fuck, go back
It’s green lantern mancubus at 10:10
Baron of Hell on Doom eternal feels like a downgrade. Nothing beats the red demonic look.
At least the made justice to the Cyberdemon.
Doomguy one at the start is incorrect, the one from doom3 is the engineer from RoE, you need the one from doom3 base game.
Doom eternal give one desing more classic than Doom 2016 look good
No Chaingunguy? I am disappoint
one thing i dont like about doom 64 is that in all the other doom games doomguy is wearing green, but in 64, he wears basically all black
Doom 3 sure did go crazy with the designs. Most of them dont resemble any of the other designs
QQQQQQQQQQue pasa con los diseñadores gráficos ? No se si será porque los pixeles de el primer Doom me transmiten mas opciones de imaginación, y así amoldarlo a mi gusto, pero en cuanto a los diseñadores siento que se van, a veces... por las ramas, cambian hasta no ser lo que realmente el doom 1 representaba y queria mostrar, siento que por querer exhibir algunos detalles graficos "modernos" , exajeran de más las articulaciones, tendones etc, pero se olvidan de que sacan de contexto la forma de esas razas, y se convierten en algo que no son.
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