Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto No. 4, Op. 40, (Second "Original" Version, 1928)

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  • Here's a follow-along score of an ultra-rare recording of the second, 1928 version, of Rachmaninoff's highly underrated Piano Concerto, No. 4, Op. 40
    Like his 1st piano concerto, there are three versions of the magnificent work. (Yes, there are THREE version of the 1st piano concerto, not two, as many people believe.) The original 1926 manuscript version was compiled by Boosey & Hawkes in 2000 after considerable interest and was recorded three times, first by Alexander Ghindin at the piano and Vladimir Ashkenazy conducting.
    This second 1928 revision is a rather truncated version of the manuscript and was the first "officially" published version. I'm sorry to say that this rendering is probably the most overlooked work of Rachmaninoff's entire oeuvre. In it, you can trace how Rachmaninoff was highly unsatisfied with the so-called superfluous sections of the manuscript version and subsequently cut out entire sections and modified a few passages.
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  • @fredericchopin6445
    @fredericchopin6445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I’m surprised that it’s so not known. it’s one of the most beautiful concerto

    • @fredericchopin6445
      @fredericchopin6445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Maurice Jett hmm shut up bot

    • @jmelkis
      @jmelkis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      agree 100%

    • @onethegogd5783
      @onethegogd5783 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      cant agree

    • @AndreyRubtsovRU
      @AndreyRubtsovRU ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it is not

    • @alanpotter8680
      @alanpotter8680 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AndreyRubtsovRU Care to elaborate? Or just another fanboy of the critics from 60 years ago. You probably hate the 2nd sonata, as well.

  • @rthailand6720
    @rthailand6720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    10:17 brilliantly.

  • @jmbechtel
    @jmbechtel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I had the pleasure of seeing this performed recently by Conrad Tao! I was ten feet from the piano... I will never forget that concert! The symphony opened with Copland's El Salón México - what a dazzle to experience live!

    • @jmelkis
      @jmelkis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well it may have been the later revision you heard. Glad you enjoyed the work in person!

  • @DanielKRui
    @DanielKRui 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is such a good recording! I love the richness of the bass, and the brass chords are just so awesome and beautiful. The pianist also slows down some passages but I kind of like that a lot. The overall sound quality is unbelievably good. This revision of the concerto has a really unique reworking of the 2nd theme of the 3rd movement! I think all the revisions of this concerto are worth playing and listening to (although I love the first version the most)...they reveal such a fascinating glimpse into R's mind and creativity.

  • @tarikeld11
    @tarikeld11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    21:31 why did he cut this beautiful passage?

    • @Walnutpaste
      @Walnutpaste ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If I had to guess its probably because it's a shittier version of the Dflat major theme from the second movement of the Rach 3.

    • @aidandavis7657
      @aidandavis7657 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Walnutpaste how so?

    • @thinkOfMeAsAClassicalMusician
      @thinkOfMeAsAClassicalMusician 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      exactlyyyy! Man it's so sad. I love the last version the most, he cut out lots of unnacessary bars, but here I don't know why he did it.

  • @willemmusik2010
    @willemmusik2010 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Allegro vivace (Alla breve): 0:01
    Largo: 11:44
    Allegro vivace: 19:27

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you.

  • @Hervinbalfour
    @Hervinbalfour 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I do enjoy this version but I've grown to love the original version the most out of the three.

    • @alanpotter8680
      @alanpotter8680 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm on the opposite side. This is something I hear less and it's always a breath of fresh air when I hear those extra bars here and there. I wish we had a recording of the very original 2nd sonata.

  • @PeterLunowPL
    @PeterLunowPL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    thank you su much for uploading this!!!!

    • @KristianWolfe
      @KristianWolfe  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No problem. Happy you enjoyed it! :)

  • @adamklar9074
    @adamklar9074 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cudowny, niesłusznie przez wielu pomijany Koncert. Tutaj melodie są nieco krótsze, niż te do których przyzwyczaił nas Rachmaninow w poprzednich koncertach, jednak są to niezwykle piękne tematy. Wiele się dzieje w tym Koncercie. A jeszcze lepsza, moim zdaniem, jest oryginalna wersja z 1926 roku. Proszę posłuchać początkowe takty w tamtej wersji: coś niesamowitego. Dobrze że jest dostępna w druku!

  • @tanyaalti8515
    @tanyaalti8515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So beautiful!! Thank You very much!!! 💖💖 💖

  • @tanyaalti8515
    @tanyaalti8515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You very much!!! 💖

  • @romerogalvanrafael089
    @romerogalvanrafael089 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7:47

  • @tarikeld11
    @tarikeld11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    7:17 I just noticed that the horns are playing the main melody...

    • @tarikeld11
      @tarikeld11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@imokatpianoiguess9809 Well idk if this was ironic or not, but sometines you realize obvious things in music not until many many times listening to it 😂

    • @kofiLjunggren
      @kofiLjunggren ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very true

  • @iavetoshkin
    @iavetoshkin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This rendition of the 2nd mvt. has just smashed me into the chair. And then reassembled.

  • @jmelkis
    @jmelkis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There’s something worthwhile and different about each version

  • @alanpotter8680
    @alanpotter8680 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Rachmaninoff was highly unsatisfied with the so-called superfluous sections of the manuscript version".... I believe the story was slightly different. Rachmaninoff received a lot of criticism for "unplayable and utter-gibberish" sections of the concerto, something critics back then also said for his sonatas. This was enough to start doubting all his future works. Too bad he didn't stick to his guts. I truly hate critics.

    • @ionstrin
      @ionstrin 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Critics was one of the reasons ,but Rachmaninoff did feared about the length of the concerto before the first performance.He complained it on a letter to Medtner.

  • @simonwassermann4305
    @simonwassermann4305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The playing and recording are stunning but who are the pianist, orchestra and conductor and when was the recording made?

    • @douwemusic
      @douwemusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your mom and your dad and your sister and your uncle and they all came together and played this

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks.

  • @Shaan_Suri
    @Shaan_Suri 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I definitely think that even though the later revisions made the piece a little more difficult to listen to due to the structural asymmetries, but overall makes the piece more succinct and compelling. I prefer the 1941 version

  • @etcetc5592
    @etcetc5592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Could u tell me about the 3 versions of the first pc? Where to find the 3rd one

    • @DanielRobertspiano
      @DanielRobertspiano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 3rd one is the 1940 version, that most Pianists play. You can listen on youtube here, but it´s very similar to this version in fact.

    • @DanielKRui
      @DanielKRui 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You can read the scores of each on IMSLP: imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto_No.1%2C_Op.1_(Rachmaninoff%2C_Sergei). The 3 versions are of 1891, 1917, and 1919.

  • @oqeox
    @oqeox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    howd i not know theres a 4th one!

  • @alessandroronci1871
    @alessandroronci1871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bella anche questa versione ci sono passaggi orchestrali e pianistici con bei colori

    • @alessandroronci1871
      @alessandroronci1871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Si sente un rachmaninov più maturo a livello di orchestrastrazione rispetto ai concerti precedenti

  • @duqueadriano0081
    @duqueadriano0081 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    21:55

    • @sophiathelast
      @sophiathelast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pinged. Come watch again 😆

    • @duqueadriano0081
      @duqueadriano0081 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sophiathelast thanks!

  • @roberthanff4354
    @roberthanff4354 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does it say 1927 version on the Chandos Cover?

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    16:29

    • @sophiathelast
      @sophiathelast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Come watch again

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sophiathelast ?

  • @user-fc8yv2qv1i
    @user-fc8yv2qv1i 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    for personal reference
    7:22

    • @sophiathelast
      @sophiathelast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Come back 🦢

  • @Seaman1010
    @Seaman1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank god he reworked the etude-tableaux op 33 no 3 theme in the 2nd movement because it sounds really messy and somewhat unfulfilling here

  • @richardhenger7338
    @richardhenger7338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Selten gespielt ! (leider). Tolle Interpretation

  • @militaryandemergencyservic3286
    @militaryandemergencyservic3286 ปีที่แล้ว

    the opening bars are not the great original version...READ HARRISON'S BOOK