FIRST EVER!!! Supercharged 7.3L Godzilla V8 | Dyno Tuning and Road Test
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- The long wait is over, we finally get to see how Ford's 7.3L Godzilla V8 responds to boost. The results are impressive. 5 Star Tuning and Procharger superchargers put in the work to bring a new level of Super Duty performance to the world. Check out the full article on SVTP:
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Should be titled "two dudes driving around in a truck".
And just imagine the 6.8L version that's coming for the next Mustang. That'll be a wild ride.
I think Ford could ve made a 5.4l DOHC V8 with modular architecture or a 6.2l Modular DOHC V8
The 6.8l OHV ll be fine.. but GM has already perfected LT motors and I don't think Fords 6.8l ll be better n a Mustang than GM LT1s
For 1. The LT1s still are lighter and smaller than Godzilla and if this 6.8l s based n the 7.3 I wud be slightly disappointed because frankly I didn't like this engine, it felt lazy below 3000 rpm and even post that it revved slower than GM LT motors and felt more like a truck motor and much less like a sporty motor.
Even by best stock LT standards the 6.8s best possible outputs may be 540 PS and 505 ft pounds torque, a 6.2l DOHC wud ve made 560-570 PS and 470-480 ft pounds torque, wud ve revved fasted and wud ve been a better match for a Mustang
I disagree. I rather enjoy the govs of torque the 7.3 liter has, doesn't feel lazy at all...Did you try the Tremor configuration with 4.30 gears? Makes a big difference. You're correct that the engine is made for a truck and tuned for logetivity and pulling. It would still be badass in a mustang; akin to the Viper V10 8.4 liter...so much torque
@@ReticentIndignation
See there is a reason why motors are based on HP/L and not at all mentioned in torque/L. And there is a reason why OHC is widely used for sports cars
1. Crank speeds.
Unless you make cranks with very low weight yet strong shafts, an OHV will always spin at lower speeds than an OHC, the lower speed of spinning however is with a less graded positive torque graph meaning. Its super strong but slow to get to peak.
With OHC with the same crank tech it spins faster as there is less parts for pull up. Thus reaching peak s easier and faster. As per cosworth performance the GM LT1 in C7 Grand Sport takes 4.6s to raise from 2k to 6.4k rpm whereas a Ford 5.0 takes just 3.6s to raise from 2k to a higher redline of 7.4k which means if both of these engines are delivering same HP but OHC s at a lower torque would still to more work than an OHC at same HP and higher torque provided both machines are put in a machine that weighs same
2. With modern super fast automatics and dual mass flywheels and all. Gearing is extremely important. The split determines how much is available at each gear.. the 5.0s were geared more for mpg and thats why they didn't perform that better.. but with the A10 the S550 Gen IIs ve done much better, now my only wish is to make that S550 platform lighter.. but there is a new 1 coming and it seems to be more focused on Hybrid tech so no signs of low weight as of now. Thats why I feel 6.8l wud be ok.. but if Ford still has an option for a sub 2200 lbs chassis like the Alpha platform in GM which weighs just 2070 lbs an OHC would perform far better than an OHV n that case
Except there is no 6.8L coming for the Mustang lol the Union representative made a mistake confirmed by RevenEvan.
@@Jimmyxsx but why.. there s somethin going on.. some new engine definitely in works..
Donno which or its specifics
Too much jibber jabber, not enough rev limiter... 🥱
I could see myself in that F250 with kit pulling my Mustang to the track. Looking mighty fine indeed. Great job,
Should be a good mountain pulling truck too.
Congratulations. I'll be waiting for the whipple myself.
Procharger all day.
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again makes boost too late for the engine to take full advantage of the power band
@@streetslayers410 The choice between the two is only about when you want the power to come in. The whipple will come on lower but the procharger will be stronger higher up. Towing? I'll take the whipple all day. Gapping nerds at the track? Procharger.
So far this kit works perfectly for the Super Duty. I think it’s almost perfect. Low boost low temps. Not many super duty owners will want 700-800 hp from a working truck they depend on. They want reliability so let’s see what the whipple company does. Sometimes common sense does apply.
We need more data on IATs to make a really solid determination.
You said Super Duty and depend on and boost. Clearly you don't know shit about Stupor Duties.
i just got my tunes from 5 Star about a week ago an just that made a difference in the truck. i think my next upgrade will be that supercharger.
Pro charger*
Who is pulling you home?
Ready for TVS2650 rotor pack, whipper 3.0L and maybe a F1 procharger. Time will tell but I’m sure these larger units will surprise everyone.
D-1X coming in about a month.
@@SVTPerformance you’re really speaking my language!
Eaton 3100 coming soon
I love Procharger. My first almost 20 years ago was a D3-R that I got to play with but for a truck I think a KB or Whipple is a better option because of how the power curve works. You want that instant boost you can't beat from a positive displacement blower.
Use the Eaton TVS R2650 from the GT500 & C7 ZR1. 2.7 liters of factory reliability right there.
Why the hot air intake?
That p1sc is way to small for that engine. It needs a d1sc at a minimum, that should provide the adequate airflow for putting the blower in its efficiency range at 12 lbs.
Great setup. Low boost and lots of torque from way down low = long engine life. Do a cam swap and you’ll see way different beast as these have made 790 naturally aspirated with ease.
While it did make that much. It was a fully built motor with rods, pistons, intake, cam, ported heads etc. Although with basically a cam and intake it make just under 600hp. So it shouldn't be hard to make 1000hp+ if you can make about 18psi on the stock motor. Change the cam and it becomes easier. Specially if you add the intake too. That will move the rpm range higher allowing the blower to spin harder.
Regardless this motor will love the boost.
@@waynebollentin989
Well I think Fords Godzilla is not as potent as GM LT motor. Its too damn heavy too at 650 lbs
I think Ford could ve made a DOHC 6.2l instead of this
@@1989rs500 your off by more than 100lbs on weight.
@@waynebollentin989 I am talking engine + support accessories
If U take dry engine weight alone its 538 lbs, the 5.0 weighs 440 lbs, a 6.8 wud weigh around 500 lbs, a 5.4l Modular V8 might weigh around 476 lbs and might be just as large as a 6.8l V8 hence my thought that 5.4 DOHC would be a right match for S650 Mustang. A 6.2 in modular architecture will anyway weigh over 500 lbs. Maybe 540 lbs but wud perform in another level even if its against a 7.3l OHV V8
@@1989rs500 the 538lbs was with the accessories. It had the intake with throttle body, water pump, pulleys, balancer. So please feel free to explain where 112lbs your talking about is coming from to get it to 650lbs.
It's obviously not a light motor, special compared to say a coyote but it's much lighter than say a Ford 460BB. That said it's about the same as an iron block ls platform. Remember the 7.3 is not aluminum block. It's an iron block engine.
Wow. So you’re saying if you don’t tow all the time save the cost difference from the powerstroke and use it to supercharge!
You won't have to deal with all the diesel emissions equipment...
But in retrospect, still roughly half the torque of a diesel with cheaper mods.
@@SVTPerformance I don't deal with them lol, d3l3ted lol
The days of that being a simple and easily accessible solution are long gone.
@@SVTPerformance Frankly speaking Ford has a long way to be close to GM LT motors. The 7.3 Godzilla feels like its a generation behind GM LT1s. With supercharger and that kind of displacement and 8 psi boost it should ve been n 650 HP range
What was your mpg?
I'll check on this engine after Jon Kaase gets through building and testing them.
Yooo, imagine the heads that man will develop for this beast 😨🔥
Im loving the forced fed 7.3 content but damn who edited this video and left the wind noise over the commentary from the driver side camera, geez?
Drunk people??? We had an issue with the mic, so this is what we had to work with. It'll be better next time.
@@SVTPerformance just yanking you chain....sort of. I had my headset on and turned up a good bit when the wind noise blasted my earholes, this just makes me want a turbo 7.3 in my 84 Mustang coupe more and more now
Let's put that in a platinum tremor package and rule the world boys!!! 🤘🤘
I’d take the 2.7 supercharger from the GT500. Having the cobra under the hood would look killer.
My 800hp truck pulling my 1000hp mustang. Tell u whut!!! 🇺🇸
That will get me to the job site alot faster!!
My 2018 f150 10 speed 3.5 eco boost with 5 star tune would run right there. Im runnin 7.9@86mph 1/8 mile to 8.1 @85 slowest with tune. Over hype
This is awesome!!!
Not really if you realize that the stock 3.5 eco walks and beats this with its little stock turbos and with upgraded makes over 700whp
Awesome set up 👍
Not a bad setup. If you ran bigger injectors for some E85 fuel tuning, you should see some good gains.
It might squeak out a little more on corn, but to see some real gains it needs a bigger blower and more RPM.
@@SVTPerformance Ethanol will help with running out of timing too. You can shove it in a lot earlier. I’d imagine a good jump in the low end with a sweet fuel with higher octane.
ROFLMAO! Yeah. "E85" with half the energy content by "volume" so you have to burn twice as much in the same amount of time to make the same "horsepower". The higher the "octane" the harder the fuel is to light and keep lit and the less "power" it contains. "E85 tunes" in Ford BOAT ANCHORS "makes power" because it keeps those pieces of shit running cold, rich, overfueled and out of "spark knock". Then there's the fact that the "tuner" can "make power" in/on any fucking vehicle on the "chassis dyno" without even getting up from the dyno console just by "tuning" the DYNO CALIBRATION AND "CORRECTION FACTORS".
You Fordtards just BEG to get bent over and cornholed by "tuners" because you know EVERYTHING about "making power" except how clueless you ACTUALLY ARE.
@@deeremeyer1749 I mean it works for the Coyote. Given it’s a higher compression motor you’ll reach a point you’ll need the higher octane fuel. If you stay on pump gas you’re asking for trouble past 750 wheel on a 5.0. I’d assume this motor wouldn’t be much different.
@@deeremeyer1749 you sound like you been huffing some E85 mixed with meth....
Tfl said the kit is around 6k with 5star installed and tuned
Watch we gone hear "foxbody 7.3 swap bolt-ons still N/A...one day ill put a lil boost on it" lol
What about warranty? How does it affect the factory warranty?
Doing this will void your factory warranty just adding a tune to the truck voids the warranty.
I have your 5 Star tunes...I like the 87 Perf. tune.. Question do you have to use new tunes with the Blower set up..??? I am waiting to see how well the Whipple does first. It pains me to watch yall bounce around in that truck. Install a carli 3" level lift and change the rear block to a F350 block which is 3.25" vs 2". The truck will level with a slight rake, ride night and day better, be more balanced. My truck feels close to my 1/2 ton Ford and GMC.
You'll def need new calibrations for any blower. This truck retains a stock'ish suspension because it's used to gather a lot of testing data. You want as few variables as possible when testing mods.
Good job, that Godzilla just got bigger, give it to tfl for the ike max towing
Take this thing to 7k! That number is not on the stock tach by accident lol
Wish we could, watch the entire vid to see why we didn't.
Yes!
Two words.. Holy. Shit.
Good video with a lot of info but the outside camera is not ideal to much noise.
At the wheels Baby. And this isn't the best offering for it yet.
Yet spanked by a simple little 3.5 with stock turbos still!lol..
@@markim5087
Keep smoking 🚬 crack.
The 250 weight is about 8 grand. The 150 is about 6500. Shut up Clown 🤡
That's not even the best system for it.
There's one place making about 800 HP natural and is going to make a 1000 HP in the next build.
Get you some of that Smartass !!
Just the motor itself is supposed to produce 500+ right? With a supercharger that engine should be high 6s or 700hp right?
Turbos always boost low end torque. At eight pounds of boost that is 45 inch’s of manifold pressure. How do you allow for detonation? Are you sure the lower end can take near 600 HP. The 4 inch pulley might be the choice foe longevity.
Everybody needs two super duties for spare parts 😳
Can u get this kit with a bigger blower unit?
Looks like a small supercharger for the size of the engine I would like to see a roots or twin screw on that engine I bet it would make gobs of torque at low RPM
D-1X upgrade on the way.
Centrifugal is the way to go.
First off, I love it. But as far as having a truck tune, the bypass valve only closes at WOT. So there will be no boost performance unless you are wide open. So only expect to have increased performance at WOT. But the 7.3 liters will do in all other towing conditions.
Your understanding of bypass valve function is incorrect.
@@SVTPerformance yours is
@@baby-sharkgto4902 Care to share a single scholarly source that supports your claim?
Why would you bother including the wind noise from the side camera showing the rear tire... just why???...
Who TF decided it was a good move to splice repeated outside wind noise clips in to the video? 😅
Send the heads out to be ported with cam. I’d add a bigger damper pulley for a cheap, huge gain in power. Not sure who makes the damper pulleys for this truck.
What oil catch can system are you using?
Good luck when gas is $6/gal for regular. Demorats
Unfortunately you’re right
@Josiah Schmidt well trump took an L today🤣
@Josiah Schmidt trump lost
Nice! Almost as much power as a natraly aspirated Chevy 632. :)
Yet that chevy 632 only made a fraction of the power the mighty 811 cubic inch Hemi puts out🤣
@@Jimmyxsx You are correct. The 632 and the 811 are very exciting engines.
The only thing that is exciting about the 7.3L is that the big blocks are on their way back. 500 ish Hp is small block power with minimal upgrading and the torque doesn't even come close to the diesel that it's competing with.
100 Hp per liter is factory now days. That engine should be able to produce 730 hp before mods or at least dam close.
But unlike Chevy motors this one won’t shit it’s cookies
@@jamesward4893 You have absolutely no data to back up either statement. Try Googleing what car manufacturer won the most races then look at who is second and then look the difference. Or you can simply remain ignorant. Your choice.
@@wilsterone6689 So since Chevy is so much better than Ford, tell me how many LeMans victories Chevy has, Ford only has 5 of them and a few triple crown wins. I’ll save you some time, Chevy (GM) has none and neither does Dodge. GM has been bailed out twice by the taxpayers because they build garbage, Ford has never been bailed out. So before you start calling people ignorant maybe you shouldn’t be ignorant yourself.
Geezus come on man
I'm thinking 10mpg at best on the highway
Do you suggest the 10 speed auto or what for this truck and this exact configuration? And what gear ratio? Thanks!
Some hilariously ill informed comments as usual. The point of these kits are to make substantially more power than stock AND be reliable. The point isn't to max out the HP/TQ and risk blowing up brand new $50-70K Super Duties left and right. Which would be a pretty GDF stupid business model now wouldn't it? Even at 8psi it remains to be seen if the stock long block, head gaskets, cooling, transmission, etc. can reliably handle this level of heat and power while towing 15K lb loads up 6% grades during 95F days. Let alone do it for 100-200K miles.
You think this 7.3 will bolt to 17+ 10 speed trans?
How many miles per gallon with towing and with out towing
For the price, I think the Whipple supercharger is a better deal as it offers 100+ HP more than the Pro Tune supercharger.
But you can't buy a Whipple for the 7.3 ...yet.
Doesn't the 7.2 already push 540 hp .with out a supper charge0
I need one
As soon as you bolt that on, there goes your warranty out the window.
Not true at all.
@@bootlegger2389 Sorry to burst your bubble, but yes it will. Just text my brother (30 year Ford heavy line mechanic) and he said the warranty would be toast.
@@xXFrankieIrishXx just had warranty work done, and my F150 is procharged. Techs have to prove that bolt on was the reson for the failure.
*reason
Sweet
Will you be trying the same setup but with 3 1/4 inch pulley? That should yield about 10 pounds of boost right?
According to 5 Star's testing 8 psi is about all this unit is good for. Didn't see much gain above 8. Need the bigger one for higher boost
Wasn't to sure since they went straight from 8 to 12 pounds of boost. But it makes sense.
What would happen if the supercharger rotation was reversed?
Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
I only see one battery mine has two!
Dual batteries on the 7.3 is an option.
Alright guys I need help.. im in the works of deciding to buy the 7.3 crate motor or a 6.0 lq9 for my sand rail.. idk how big of a aftermarket there is for the new 7.3 but I know it’s probably going to be huge later on.. my question is you think I should just stick to the lq9 since there’s already a large aftermarket? Or wait till the 7.3 gets a heavy aftermarket trying to get the most power tbh.. but also never saw a 7.3 in a rail so trying to stand out you know ;p
Option 3 - Coyote
lq9. durable iron block with a massive aftermarket. ls parts are everywhere.
Man, that makes some nass pa-er!
This motor should be good for 600 horsepower from the factory WITHOUT a blower. Also, ford should build one with an aluminum block so that it isn't so heavy. I've heard comments about a 6.8 liter version. I'll pass. Build the motor I outlined above. I'll take one.
Just saw this on TFL Truck
Got'em on the hole shot. :)
too much talkey talk..not enough hittin the rev limiter. lol
Just curious, why didnt you mount a P1X with a 3.55 pulley?
Because that's not the kit that procharger is selling.
But they do.... you can specify any combo of blower and pulley.
I'm disappointed in Ford for making such a large legendary engine with very little stock power. With today's technology the engine should ship with 500hp and 500 torque.
This engine passed the extreme duty cycle, it is made for maximum continuous load, not max power...
Reliability
@@SMiller5488 You need the power and the torque in order to haul large heavy loads. Pulling a 10,000 lb horse trailer with living quarters and 3 quarter horses up hills, you will wish you have more power because instead of moving forward, you will stall on the hill or start going backwards.
Let motor doesn't make much RPM must be all torque until you put a Cam and sheet metal tunnel ram like intake like other videos.
I've had gas motors my whole life . I bought a 2014 f-350 diesel. I pull at least 3-4 times a week.. the time you save from the torque of the diesel is well worth it . I get to where I'm going much quicker then the gas motor. With a load. with out a load for a daily driver gas would be ok. not for pulling . for me at least . dont think.i would ever get a gas motor ever again for a pulling work truck...ive had 454 witch were turds 350s, 5.4 v8 from.ford . 6.2 GMC. none come close to the diesel. you can't Compete with the high torque #s .
How you think this Supercharged 7.3 gas would do compared to a 7.3 diesel engine towing?
Too bad you can’t hear any loud supercharger whine
What's with the damn outside cam and all that road noise??
Will it roll coal
The days of rollin coal on a new street truck are long gone.
Bro it's a gas engine
Look at 17.56.....
Driver says 30mph to 80mph real quick!!!
Reality 52-80........ I'm a big Ford fan but the hype train is rediculous
Driver is full of it lol
Are you here to tell us about how much better the truck performs or to give a long winded political campaign speech? 38 minutes???
So it makes power like an na ls7 with good heads..still don't get it.
It can pull 15k pounds and doesn't explode if you look at it wrong???
Let's see some turbos!
It's coming.
28 seconds in and i can tell you the p1 is not big enough for that size motor. Needs an f1x size.
This needs twins lol..1000,1200 hp..
2018 f150 5.0 whipple would embarrass this for 15K less
My friend works at the ford truck plant. He said the 7.3 is eating bearings. Ford knows it too. But they said it will last until the warranty runs out.
Have they switched to a updated part yet?
@@SMiller5488 nope.
@@davidchristopher5976 not good
@@SMiller5488 no it isn't.
I would imagine this setup would void the warranty.
Where do I swipe my card? Lol
I can’t wait to walk one on the highway when they think they’re tuff stuff 😂
Please get the steering wheel centered. Should be a 5 minute fix on a superduty.
SRT-10 or Bust for me personally.
This is a pedestrian effort I feel. It's a big block and it's just lack luster to say almost like procharger just took a undersized charger together an said this is perfect. This is just not a good showing for a big block
Still "cheaper than a diesel"? Yeah. I didn't think so. Idiocy.
Not even really close to impressed...It’s crazy that the 2.7 ecoboost makes 540rwhp compared to this!lol..and the 3.5 make 700rwhp,lol..
What's the torque like in those?
For some reason I was expecting so much more power and torque. Kinda underwhelming.
i think the whole new motor is a huge step backwards... i also think a p1 procharger is to small for that motor.
Do you want peak power in a pickup or reliable, useable power?.... They even said in the video the P1 was undersized for this engine...
@@sorryociffer yup i heard that the p1 was to small after i commented. in my opinion if 7.3L dont give you enough tq without a blower just go diesel.😄 diesel is way better suited for towing and they last much longer.
unless some sorcery is done with the smaller aluminum block version for the next gen mustang (assuming its what will be in them) that will be a big let down for me. it will be heavier than the coyote i think and not respond to mods as well. i could be dead wronge however. im just impressed what those 4v 5.0's can do.
i would love to see a 7.3L 4v though😳
@@jasonwoody8041 Agreed. Diesel all the way IF you are going to work the snot out of it. That said, 90-95% of most people would likely be better served with the 7.3. It’s what I would buy. I did the diesel way back and wouldn’t bother today...
@@sorryociffer well, with the new DEF systems that diesels come with now i would hace a hard time buying one too. it causes nothing but issues with our local delivery semi trucks
Open element air filter hanging out in space yeah let’s suck in all that warm air from the motor that’s really good. There actually better to use stock air box save the money
IAT's will not see temps above 120. The intercooler will cool.temps before they enter the manifold....
😰 why is nobody doing positive displacement superchargers? This makes 8psi of boost at the REDLINE.
A pds Will make boost from the time you step on the gas to the Redline, this equals much more space under the curve.
PD blowers take a lot more time and money to design for each new application. We'll see them eventually.
You wouldn't want to use a PD blower for towing. This isn't a race truck. Procharger won't heat soak as much and its less stress on the engine.
Whipple said they are almost done with theirs. They have the lower manifold designed and casted which was the hard part, they said that earlier today on a live video.
PD blower is good for 2 passes..... then you gotta let it cool off unless youre running meth.
@@bootlegger2389 Stop spreading falsities
For the money and the lack of torque of that, i will spend my money on a new 1000 ft pounds cummins and get 20+ mpg. And that will never hold resale value like a diesel.
Cummins, Powerstrokes, and Duramax's haven't got 20mpg since 2007 before the emissions BS. If you get a 1k HP diesel to get 20mpg, please post it here with proof
@@codyhannah1451 lies.
almost broke my pc drooling over this combo. make a man want to work harder!
Damn, tossing boost at a motor that’s dropping like flies probably isn’t a good idea lol
That’s not a junky LS motor lol
@@jamesward4893 👍
Worst editing ever. WHY did you put a voiceover during the first dyno pull??? Also, why the intermittent shots of the rear wheel while driving. Even if you thought it was good footage, use the video only cuz the wind completely drowned out your conversation...not that the conversation was even worth including. The video should have easily been 30 minutes shorter.
I'd rather be the last supercharged 7.3 if I could only bolt on that ugly ass kit!
Bro 38Min is too much
That's what she said.
72 adds later, you have lost me as a viewer and my subscription
I'm not sure which meme is more appropriate here; "Ok Karen" or "Bye Felicia". So I suppose I'll just go for a hybrid of the two, Bye Karen.
@@SVTPerformance 🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️ there will always be that one guy
@@SVTPerformance i just manually skip over the ads lol so idk see whats the issue with that guy. Common sense is rare these days
So between the cost of the supercharger/ installation and higher fuel cost because you don’t make more power on less fuel with lower hp/torque then a diesel some people think that is better? Let’s remember that diesel trucks are a lot more expensive out the gate but will off set that with fuel economy and use ability for what you would buy a truck like that for and the most important is resale value, diesel trucks hold value compared to gas and with that supercharger how many buyers do you think are actually out there that will pay value or more for it? I am not talking about you I am talking about John-q-public that lives and are in the market around the seller, just my 2 cents worth.
You’re probably going have to drive at least 300,000 (possibly way more) to recoup that up front cost.
Nice! Still got a long way to out perform a coyote 5.0 tho.
Let me know when you find a Coyote powered Super Duty.
It's set up for a truck not for a race car genius.
@@johnjames5020 never once referred to a race car. There's stock sealed (manifold to oil pan) coyote powered trucks in the 8's. And over a 1000 hp at the tire. Like I said still has a long way to go
Its probley gonna blow up