Ford Godzilla 7.3 Stage 1 Heads & Cam Dyno Test - Massive Gains Over Stock! How is that Possible?
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- Brian Wolfe and REVan Evan crank up a 7.3L Godzilla Ford V8 with a Stage 1 basic cam, mildly ported cylinder heads and a stock bottom end. It makes fantastic power and would be the perfect engine for most project cars, drag racers or road course runners. This test shows what a 446-inch Ford can do with basic hot rod tricks.
I can’t wait for 10 years from now when we can find these things in the junkyard to swap.
Very true..
I won't live that long, so the only financially feasible alternative is to carjack an F250 owner.
They aren’t going to be littering junkyards like LSs. Just not enough of them
10 years we will be in electric that's what uncle jo wants carbon free good o Dems what dummys
Hopefully we'll have an aluminum 6.8 coming out in the Mustang. This thing is too heavy to be honest.
I hope enough people buy these so that they stay in use for a while.
Hopefully Ford will put in more vehicles
@@yotamonster That's not gonna happen.
@@dwightdhansen 😭
Eh. Unfortunately their having some problems with alot if things leaking. Hopefully they stick with the motor and fix the problems
@@dwightdhansen Maybe a future excursion, but that's about it.
Woooweee! Listen to the big-inch Ford rev!! 🏎🚀
Sounds good doesn't it !
@@jackflash6377 yeah! And spins higher than I thought it would! Can’t wait to see a modded example like this in person!
Somewhere a tired and old Crown Vic is begging for this heart transplant.
I follow a guy on Instagram who’s swapping one into a crown vic, @ l8r_hp
A sweet upgrade for grandma's ride.
I wish I could swap one into my old Lincoln...But they don't fit under our hoods, We need an intake similar in design to the dohc cobra's taking advantage of all that space in the oil valley.
These are great Evan! Keep making them!! They sound so great!
Thank you.
I don't know if was just me or the sound mix , but that engine reminds me of growing up with big blocks 🤔! Sound of music 🎶
Exactly what crossed my mind
Yes.
That noise at 9:40 holy god
Sell the kit with the intake, and a flash tuner. Include headers, intake , cam, springs/pushrods, tune. Stage 2 kit ported heads on exchange
It'll pass every thing on the street except a gas station.
Plus side if you run one of these in the tow truck and the race version in the racer, You've alway got a spare👌
I especially appreciated the discussion about the difference between tuner dyno results and OEM power ratings, and the discussion about why OEMs "under-rate" engines the way they do.
Got my Tremor being built with this beast. I can't wait to piss off the neighbors.
All that power gives me the chills! Lol! Love the sound of a healthy engine! Got this in my F250 I’m thinking twin turbos next! Lol!
I have a 6.2 ford powdered engine in my F150 one day I will be doing a 7.3 engine upgrade
Man Evan that’s a Beast, Mr.B.W thanks for the explanation on the difference in Ratings, makes sense to me,,, now! Great content ‼️
😳......CYCLONE ?????? IM IN HEAVEN !
Cyczilla!!
Great video, interview, and information, Evan & Brian, thank you!
You're welcome.
All I can say is it's an LS killer👍🏾👍🏾
Uh... no? It makes the same power as a LS3 and can’t touch the LS7 that came out 15 years ago.. it made 640 on a engine dyno, Ls7 with those mods make that To the tire with all the accessory’s and exhaust on them..
LS family is more available, cheaper to build, and makes the same if not more power with less cubes.
But for a Ford application this is a pretty sweet engine. Definitely cheaper to build than a Yote
@@BLACKLACDTS heads/cam ls3’s make 450-500 whip (450ish through an auto, around 500 through a manual) this heads/cam Godzilla will make around 550 if not more through an auto. This motor makes comparable power to the wheels as most heads/cam c6 z06’s I’ve seen. Also companies offer different cams and head porting options were as this is “stg 1”. They didn’t mention cam specs or how much porting was done to the heads so really hard to compare.
@@bryanbridges6152 if you have a heads cam Ls3 making 450rwhp through a auto it’s a turd.. those are Ls1 Numbers.. The Newer LT1s are making Damn close to LS7 numbers.
Go watch RPM’s videos.. It’s nothing for a LS7 to put down 600rwhp with factory worked heads, cam and intake.
The 7.3 gas is under square.
You can get an over square 460 to do the same numbers. Yes, old blocks are getting harder to come buy; but, I'm not sure of the advantages and race applications.
A 460 is larger and doesn't fit as easily. This takes up virtually the same room as a small block 351. You only gotta have a 3 inch cowl to fit it in a fox and with the newer low pro intakes Ford makes it would have even less clearance issues it Def fits easier than a 460 big block.
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You know those modular guys that have cars and coffee for "mod motors only?" Yeah, can't wait to return the favor with "SBF Pushrod Only" meets.
You’ll be at a small event
ford finally pulled their head out of their ass. the mod motors couldn't compete w the hemis and other pushrod engines now a days. they don't make the grunt.... period!
@erandy 02 you’re fucking delusional.
460hp 5.0
480hp 5.0
526hp 5.2
760hp 5.2 S/C
Are the current coyote based offerings from ford. What engine “doesn’t make enough grunt” to keep up with the current engines from GM and Dodge?
Less fanboy behavior and more facts in the future. It’ll make you look more intelligent in the future lol
@@erandy0240 5.0 F150 is faster then a 5.7 Ram.
@@erandy0240 the new coyotes make over 400 torque from 5 liters right from the factory...if you ask me that is some pretty good "grunt" all things considered. Yea it dont make that at 1500 rpm but the ls cars dont either theyre rev happy too. A 7 liter ls might but you wont see that kinda power out of anything close to 5 liters from the other two manufacturers. An all motor coyote might not be the absolute best option for towing only in a truck but it certainly isnt bad especially for the cubic inches it has. The coyote motors are straight beast once forced induction enters the equation theyre hard to compete with.
Awesome vid on comparisons from the Manufacturer to the racer.
This would be nice in a crown Vic
The 7.3 stuff is awesome
This would be nice in my 79 f100
Currently putting this into my 2015 mustang. Going to build for n/a and boost after a year of n/a
Wow! That is a super engine that make excellent hp/TQ. That 7.3L in that 1973 Fairlane it with be a rocket at the track just saying.👏💪👍
Go for it Paul's claims its underrated it is really 500 HP and Torque
Another great video!
Thanks
6:30
That’s what I was waiting for... the baseline number for the stock engine.
507hp
Wish they did graph overlays like Richard Holdener.
While this engine is amazing and obviously produces really impressive power with few mods. I wish more tuners and engine builders would be this excited about the Ford 6.2. In my opinion i think the 6.2 could be a great preformer and we already know it's extremely reliable.
It should have been 4v and not 2v. Some one needs to make some aftermarket 4v heads so it can do its thing
@@ranware2779the 2v 6.2 is still a badass engine. If it had more aftermarket support it could be made into a monster.
@midnight347 very true indeed. Ford had so many engines to get right but left them where they're for some odd ass reason. It makes no sense to me why everything has to focused towards the 302
Not a ford fan but that's a Godzilla no doubt👍
If you like LS you like fords lol.
What you think the limit of the bottom end is
This is old replay ... way overdue for current status. Can we get an update on Brians Mustang strip testing and build progress on your car ?
When we gonna see some 6.8 stuff?
Been asking to see 6.8 stuff for years .
*6.8 pushrod... not V10
I would say as early as this time next year or the following year. Just my opinion due to how early it is in the release of the 6.8 Engine. I hope earlier but not holding my breath lol.
Just disconnect one spark plug. Close enough.
@@ZboeC5 already are we have them in the shop already doing testing
Still loving my 7.3 250, running great 👍, She's liking the 93 octane marine fuel.
My friend works at the plant. They are having bearing issues from the 7.3. But Ford's not fixing it because they say it will make it past warranty.
@@davidchristopher5976 FALSE
Have you heard anyone in the aftermarket (Brian or otherwise) that will be offering turn key power packages for the 7.3? Meaning full long block, intake, etc? I’d like to pick up a crate engine, but would rather buy something ready to go in the power range I want. I think it would be a great offering.
email me at wolfe@willisengines.com
great number that 7.3 sounds awesome what a beast....
I'd be interested in seeing some 87 octane numbers, for the guys looking to upgrade their trucks, without having to spend big $$ on premium fuel.
If you don't wanna run good fuel just stay away from modding alltogether. It amazes me the ones who wanna mod and make power but refuse to run good fuel. How much more is it really? If you're that broke Def don't be modding
Still waiting on that control pack boys
OBR has them, you can email me at wolfe@willisengines for details.
Would make a awesome and lite airboat engine
One thing I dislike about the 5.0 Coyote in my S550 Mustang GT is the lack of low-midrange torque. You need to rev it pretty high to get it moving on the street. This 7.3 Godzilla with Stage 1 Cams + Heads @600HP would be awesome in my daily driver S550. The 5.2XS Aluminator would also be an awesome swap in the S550.
Nice to see a coyote guy who understands the other side of the coin that it isn't just about peak hp and torque numbers lol. So many coyote guys are so butthurt about this engine like they feel threatened or something and I'm not sure why more cool Ford options the better.
You should have showed us the baseline engine and the modded engine curves. Telling us the new numbers did almost no good.
From what you said power went from 507 to 640 HP, at the same RPM ? Would these mods be good for a truck pulling a heavy trailer ?
What is the retail cost this package and what vehicles would it fit into? Fox body? F100? Ranger? Bronco?
Yes would fit into those, email me at wolfe@willisengines if you are interested.
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I wonder what a carb set up would make for power / I’d like to see Edelbrock make some intakes for this set up too
Excellent video, but confused on the #'s. Brian said the stock intake was 600/59something and 641/550 with the intake? So a bit of trade between torque and HP?
It’s a velocity vs cfm thing. More area is more cfm (flow) and less area is less cfm but more velocity.
Velocity is torque related and cfm is max power related.
Yeah I simplified this very much but that’s the case in the end.
Yeah. The stock truck manifold has longer runners, so it will make better torque in the mid-range, but lose power at the top end. That's pretty typical stuff. Richard Holdener videos have a lot of examples of that.
Andy nailed it
@Joe Blo It's resonance. Ever had water hammer? Air has weight, and an intake isn't a continuous flow... the intake valve's constantly opening and closing, and when it's closed all the moving air tends to cram into the back of the valve where it can 'bounce' in a wave back out, unless the timing's just right and the intake opens just before it starts to make that reversion. The length of the runner determines at what RPM that happens, so changing the runner length changes where the torque peak falls. Shorter=higher, longer=lower, and that's because there's more air moving in total to pack in so it takes a longer amount of time for peak mass.
This has been the case for many years going from long runner truck manifolds to short runner performance manifolds this is almost always the case basically.
I'm going to force this into my 99 Ford Ranger.
Post videos! I'll be a sub
You'll need a big shoehorn.
@@9trees I agree, the current 5.0 in it was almost plug and play.
Can one of these fit in the new Bronco?
you can make it fit anything if your skilled enough....
Nice work)
I wonder what new 6.6 gas gm engine can do in similar case situations. 420hp & 464 tq is close to start with a .7 smaller engine. ? Thanks brothers keep up good work
For sure would love to see someone run that.
if the 6.6 makes 400ft lbs torque @1500rpm like a stock 7.3 godzilla does.... ford is going to have to step it up
@@codyramos3200 Absolutely chevy is way ahead with their LT platform. For example my genV lt1 6.2 made 700hp with heads/cam/intake on the engine dyno. And i know guys doing 750-800 SBE 6.2. Some 800-850hp with a 7.0L GM LT1. Chevy has had a nice head start needless to say lol.
@@Allmotorzl1 peak hp is cool and all but the stock 7.3 godzilla point im trying make is the torque at low rpm 400ft lbs @1500 rpm ... torque from 1500rpm-5500rpm is no less than 400lbs peak tq 475@4000.. it is a truck engine after all . but yes the vortec/ls has had a good head start .. while ford was dragging its feet for years 2v modular v8 engines 1991-2014 never got past or even close to 300hp the n/a 4v stayed around 300hp for its early 90s-mid 2000s life.. idk why ford didnt push the envelope like chevy did.. sbc-lt1-Ls in the same time frame 3 completely different v8 engine familys
The GM 6.6 is overrated by 20%. See the Ike Gauntlet run by TFL Truck. It posted 2nd slowest time ever seen ( a 4cyl Frontier was slowest), the 7.3 Ford was 3 mins faster!
Impressive for a modest build.
Can't help but wonder what it would take to put one of these in a v10 excursion.....🤔
It would be easy if you took the V10 out first!
@@andyharman3022 easy would be throwing it behind the seat lol
That would be a real nice conversion, i believe that could be accomplished 4sure!
It would be easy became these use the same modular trans style so the Trans will work and I'm 99% sure a gen 1 control pack for a coyote will also run it. May wanna look further into it but from what I've gathered that's the case
Now wait a minute.
Does that water pump come from Ford with the likeness of Godzilla cast into it?
That would be a surprising amount of attitude from a 100-year old corporation.
Unfortunately, no.
the fact its called "Godzilla" is a surprising amount of attitude.........
Curious on a size comparison between this 7.3 and an old FE engine? Wonder if it would fit between the shock towers of 67-68 Mustangs / Cougars without major surgery?
Smaller than an FE
I cover the dimensions in an earlier 7.3 video
@@revanevan Thanks...will have to recheck the video. Most of the comparisons seem to be against the excellent Coyote motor, but there may be a decent market for older Fords that don’t or can’t do the major surgery. I don’t have the capability to fab things like others, but can put a motor into in if there is a kit with the correct parts.
@@j.peterson210 I don't think it would have much trouble similar size to a 351 Windsor but slightly taller i think but they make couple good low profile intake options now that allow it fit easier and improve power.
One question on the true stock 650hp pulls. Was that on pump gas? I'm building a flat tappet 427 Dart that should have similar results but I have a race cam and high dome pistons on purple at 34 degrees.
Yup good ole 93
Man I wanna see these motors hit 8000rpm, destroke if necessary, just make them full motorsport grade quick response engines like Honda VTEC engines are
Be cool to see this thing Carbureted 💪🏼🏁
Why?
Fuel it with E85 see those gains
Plus a turbo on E85 would be fun to see
@@danielsmith7935 wish I could afford one 😭😭
So the stage 1 cam do you lock out the VVT?
No, but it is reduced, my next video covers that topic.
Wish this was our when i did my last car
Compare the 7.3 Godzilla to the Ls7.. mod for mod on the dyno.
A truck engine against a top of the line performance engine. I gaurantee the 7.3 can make every bit as much power and torque set up the exact same way likely even more. It's much newer they're just now starting to get decent intake options available.
@@midnight347 now a 7.3 crate engine Vs a LS7 Crate engine.. stop making excuses. While you’re “Guaranteeing” the 7.3 can do what the ole ls7 can it has yet to be proven. The LS7 (starting selling in 2005 by the way) Routinely puts down 630+rwhp with worked stock heads, cam and intake. There is videos of hundreds of them doing it. That’s over 700hp at the crank with a stock bottom end motor. Ford boy or not that’s impressive.
@@BLACKLACDTShow is it making excuses it's a truck engine built for a truck against a high performance 20k dollar corvette engine...the ls7 has more compression and more stock rpm its meant for a sports car for God's sake. Let's hope the ls7 doesn't drop a valve while they're testing it lol. Boom there goes 20k. Stop with the ls pushing gm humping nonsense. If you give the engines similar setups and rpm and head flow etc they're gonna make similar power. The ls7 has a much better stock setup. Let's compare it against the 8.1 truck engine. That even has MORE displacement. It won't end well for the 8.1. You're trying to compare it to the ls7 because you are cherry picking a similar displacement engine to try and push your bs theory that gm is superior. They aren't. You can get a godzilla crate motor for what 8k? An ls7 costs 20k lol. It's not a fair comparison at all.
@@BLACKLACDTSwow a top of the line 20k dollar vette engine with factory high compression can do over 600 wheel with a big ass cam heads and intake etc. I'm so impressed lol. Give a godzilla 11:1 and Rev it to 7000 rpm set it up similar it will make the same or more power for less money.
@@midnight347 hahahaha… Keep talking and making a fool of yourself..
That intake is killer. What this thing doing at 2500? Is it already making close to 500ft.lbs? I want to put THIS engine into a Crown Vic with an automatic and 3.73's.
You would like the stock Intake with this configuration, 600HP and 597 Ft-Lbs.
@@brianwolfe2993 My concern with the truck intake is the positioning/angle of the throttle body. I'm hoping someone comes up with a solution for that. Five hundred ninety seven ft-lbs though ... nice
@@Odessa45 they make couple low profile intake options now that also improve power and torque.
@@midnight347 Yep, thanks. I've seen Evan's video about the Ford Performance manifold prototype. Looks good. Right now the holdup is a controller for the 10 speed. Ford has it in the works though.
@@Odessa45just save yourself the hassle and throw a t56 magnum behind it. It's alot easier and cheaper all in and it'll be 100x more fun. Then the only tuning you require is learning how to drive better.
What is the status on the swap kit? What does he expect to include with it? Fox body specific or will there be something that will help installs in other applications?
I believe Team Z already has everything you need to do this swap in a Foxbody.
@@robert_rice Maybe I'm missing it. The only thing I see on their website is a Godzilla k- member.
I thought I saw a video where Dave said they also had the trans crossmember, but I'm not seeing that now.
Would love to see this in an IRS swapped fox. Would be an auto x killer lol
@@sleeper.simulant7327 It's probably a bit heavy for that. A lighter boosted engine would handle better. Think SVO.
But yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing this thing in a Fox. It's already gone 10.97/10.99 NA in a CobraJet chassis.
Would love to see this same engine combo pull on e85
what would this do with stock intake and stage 1 cam and heads?
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I'd like to see a teardown and comparison with the venerable Mopar 440.
Interesting.
7.3 isn’t a big block
@@BC08 its like a medium block that's what most refer to it as similar to the 6.2 sohc boss engine.
@@midnight347 .........no.
698👍's up guys thanks again for taking the time for us all to be with you
heads, cam, intake, headers*
Show me a 427 LS that makes with a light cam and light porting makes 640 hp. They only make with like max effort maybe 800hp. There is so much capability with this Godzilla motor even N/A. IMAGINE BOOSTED
Thats a pretty common LS7 result.
Ported stock heads, cam 567rwhp
th-cam.com/video/RKcYk3C9ug8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=CrazyMcgrady
Ported stock heads, cam 608rwhp
th-cam.com/video/Mk9MbLRSxPA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=FrankensteinEngineDynamics
Ported stock heads, cam 568rwhp
th-cam.com/video/MOMnXIERoQc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=FriendshipAuto
@@chipcurrey653 I mean with like stage 1 level porting they barely did anything to those heads and its a really light cam they put in it. Sure you can do the same with a LS7 but it needs more like stage 2 level stuff to do it. The stage 3 or 4 stock heads they are shooting for 1600hp boosted with. As far as I know LS7 heads even ported to the max can't make that much thanks to design. Now this is based on my knowledge and even if I'm wrong the point was this is a SERIOUS contender for the LS and LT motors.
@@chipcurrey653 Also that one that made 608 whp its heads were ported by Frankenstein which is as far as I know one of the best porting/head/Intake shops in America. And that was probably a pretty decent level of porting considering who it was done by and the power. And they charge a good bit of money to do porting just because of their skill so no one is going to ask them to port something un less its a pretty high level of porting and want to get the best power possible out of those stock heads. Im not saying Frankenstein went all out on them but its defiantly not a light port Job. So its not really an accurate comparison.
@@tstuff1213 David Vizard is considering one of the leading ICE airlow experts, has written countless books, and has won engine masters.
They are two engines of very similar design, with similar displacement, similar compression, similar heads, etc. They are going to make similar power. "Stage 1, 2, etc" is non-universal terminology. All those examples have stock heads. None of them have a billet intake that doesn't clear the stock hood.
I think you are searching for emotional reasons one brand will outdo another. The 7.3 has 19 more cubic inches, and ultimately a taller deck height which will allow bigger aftermarket strokers. I don't see anything principally different about the design that is going to allow for way better results than an LS of similar displacement with similar headflow. An LT with the same stats would outperform both. They are direct injection which will always allow for more compression on pump gas. Ford could always release a DI version, but I hope they keep this port injection model in trucks.
My interest in this engine is because I see it as essentially a slightly larger LS3/LS7 for a lower cost. It is a MUCH lower cost than a tall deck LS. Aftermarket support for the DI LT engines has never taken off like for the port injection LS because of the tuning challenges.
@@tstuff1213 By the way here's a stock long block, stock unported head LS3 making 600+hp with just a cam, intake, and long tubes on an engine dyno with no accessories, water pump, hood, etc. This is only 376 cubic inches.
th-cam.com/video/dv2WYRh1oWo/w-d-xo.html
Cam specs would be nice to know.
We know everyone wants the specs, and I apologize for not posting them, but Brian is still working out the best options, so specs will be available once he has all the packages figured out.
Is that going in the Red 86 ??
No, the 86 will only come out with the 8.2 Deck height SBF we ran back in the day.
Need BOOST!!😎
Where do I get this engine from the wolf himself lol 😅
Who made the camshaft?
Callies, you can contact me to order. wolfe@willisenignes.com
@@brianwolfe2993 how can I get in contact I'm currently working on my 7.3l also interested in that electric water pump
1000hp 7.3 ford will be a regular thing just like the lsx world.
That would be great
1000hp everything is a regular thing.
Stock bottom end doesn't impress me any more with LSs we'll talk after you make 1500 plus like Richard Holdener with a 6.0 big bang
Understand your point, it was not a statement on that the parts live at that level but the very little changes required for this performance level N/A on pump gas. Boosted stuff is coming. :)
that 6.0 is on borrowed time too.
@@frigglebiscuit7484 well he still uses it for testing but the big bang really about testing to failure but he only had a 3bar map sensor but it did not brake but it is not in a vehicle getting hit that hard often
There's a video of a stock bottom end 7.3 turbo making 1200 hp. Not bad considering they haven't been around long enough to really get to know.
Who cares. Yawn. Sick of ls. Anyone with a brain knows you ain't gonna make 1500 long on a stock bottom end. It's easier to stay alive on an engine dyno with no load. You're comparing a modified engine with tons and tons of boost to a barely modified stock truck engine na. He's not talking about the bottom end related to what it is holding but talking about how little it's modified. If you ls nutthuggers had half a brain you might could figure that out. You're too busy fuming fumbling at the keyboard being your usual keyboard warrior self...God just stop it.
Im a Ford guy, will it fit in to my Focus? ))
Sure will! Just take out the two back seats and make it mid-engined! And you will need a pilot license.
So you have chosen death🤣
ive seen a coyote in a fiesta so yes it will
Years ago there were kits to convert a Focus to RWD and cram a windsor under the hood....
has the sound of the old y block ford
No, it doesn't sound like a garden tractor barely wheezing out 150hp.
@@dwightdhansenwtf?
How are CNC ported heads, a cam and spring upgrade, massive throttle body and insane intake not a 200 hp upgrade on a 7.3 litre engine? Do Fords need more to make power then lets say the LS? And how is that a Stage 1 build. To me a stage 1 upgrade is like a cam swap
Insane intake? You gotta be kidding me. And don't even go there with the "do ford's need more to make power?" Bs because I regularly see all types of ford's making big power with boost easier and cheaper with less mods vs gm stuff and especially dodge stuff
It's a stage 1 head and cam package. You don't seem to know shit honestly. Gaining 200+ hp from those mods isn't super common. An ls7 gains 150-200 usually at best with a solid heads cam intake package and that is a higher compression 20k dollar vette motor.
@@midnight347 Dude! That´s like 3 years old comment. That is a massive upgrade, no way it is a stage 1 deal. I appreciate Fords, I even own a few of them. But that Godzilla thing is not even close to be as impressive as an old SBF IMO
@@midnight347 Don´t know shit? LOL Show me an LS7 with CNC ported heads, a cam and spring upgrade and an aftermarked intake that gained less then 200, are you kidding me? Motorhome/cargo van LS engines gain 200 with less.
The bottom end is screaming for boost.
$7000 intake not a budget piece for sure
It’s a new engine, give the aftermarket a chance to catch up.
Eh... LS 6.2 engines are getting that kind of hp with ported heads and a cam no problem. I was hoping for more with it being a bigger 7.3 engine.
Would love to see a stock head LS Dyno test with stock valves. If you have a link can you share. Everything I have seen is with aftermarket heads that approach 700 HP.
@@brianwolfe2993 why do you want stock heads? Who gives a crap about stock. And you do realize ls heads ported means stock heads right?
@@stephenhodge6441because this is using stock ported heads dumbass you're comparing apples to oranges. I get so tired of the ls humping bullshit. Yall are so terrified Ford is gonna do pushrod as good as you do. God forbid. It's a gd truck engine bro. Show me the truck 6.2s doing the same power w the same mods I'll wait.
430 at the wheels stock in an F250? Soooo 600hp at the crank?
No, the truck is rated at 430.
The 430 SAE net is at the crank with the differances described to get to a 507 baseline.
@@brianwolfe2993 So real world, about +77hp with Stage 1 heads, the intake, cam, springs and a tune?
@@Odessa45um no did you even watch the video?
only if it’s an aluminum block and 100 lbs lighter
Cha-ching!
Project Stocker might need a new heart!
Sorry I'd rather see a more realistically priced parts combo tested - not stuff using a $6000+ dollar intake 🙄
6000 is gotta be an over estimate, I wouldn’t spend more then 1700 on that
The engine makes 600 hp with the stock truck intake, we included those numbers.
@@williamsanders468 Look at their website just be sure you're sitting down. Not to down play the quality but price wise they're even more expensive than Frankenstein.
just something for the ford guys so they can stop getting stomped by junkyard turbo 5.3's
Ford owns gm bro. Keep living in denial. The old 4.6 and coyote have both gone faster with more stock parts than any ls regardless of cubes. You better wake up my friend. Don't let you average bs turbo 5.3 throwaway build get you too hyped up. Come back to reality.
So what I learned is that your dyno numbers aren’t really real world numbers because the engine doesn’t have all of the parts on it that it would in the truck and thus lowering power numbers due to parasitic loss.
Exactly, that is why you can compare to baseline as was explained.....
It doesn't matter as long as you do it the same way before and after you can still see the gains.
Sell it get a coyote.
Kinda over rated , yeah its better than a Chevy or any stock 460 but ,I dont get the hyp, a 460 with some 60 49 scj or p51 heads ,Good pistons upgraded rod bolts , cam lifters, rockers bla bla, is 600- 690hp 600 torque on pump gas. And doing it all saving a few $$$ IF you build it yourself compared to a 7.3 crate motor, keep the compression down put a single turbo on it your 750hp minimum and will hold compression longer and not blow by like a core shift bow tie
That is alot of modding to the 460 to be comparable and it's a larger engine physically i.e. don't fit as easily. You say you don't get the hype? I don't get the hate on the engine simply because it's another quality option everyone starts talking shit and saying stupid shit like you just did. Why? Whats wrong with more options?
Thats SHIT!!! Coyotes make 600hp with stock unported heads, and stock cams.
No they don't not even close dude. Guess you didn't see the torque did you? Coyote guys don't even know what that word even means. Let's see their torque at 1500-2000 rpm. Stop with it.
Brian said they made 600 hp with the stock intake. They only made 640 with the custom intake? I would think it would be more than that.
I’ll take 40 hp for an intake swap any day.
just goes to show thes stock intake was good in the first place and not much could be done to improve on it
40 hp gain is quite alot I think it was like 45 actually that is alot for an intake swap honestly.
Still a way to go to catch dodge
Little port work / really means, CNC Porting, new valves, valve springs, guides etc. Etc.
Little cam shaft / really means, bug cam, new lifters, pushrods, timing set, etc.
TOTAL WASTE
To bad ford will replace it with something else in 3 years so there hardly be any of them out there.
That engine ruins towns.
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We are so desperate to see a lot of hp from a ford. BWHAHAHA!!
Excellent video & a great engine. If democrats ever allow the lockdowns to end & the economy to start back up you should be able to sell a bunch of these engines.
Waste of money. $8,000 for just the the stock 7.3 that make 430hp. It's less than $4,000 for a brand new LS crate engine that makes 450 hp. Cool build but Only a fool would pay double for the same amount of power.
Michael Gilmore / hp is for topspeed, torque (curve) is what counts
What ls crate engine making 450 is less than 4k? I'll wait lol.
The engine had just came out man yall don't waste time jumping on the hate train. Just gotta talk that shit. Used ls3 go for 3-4k I'd love to know what 450 hp crate ls coats less than 4k new. You're talking out your ass like the rest of these gm fanboys.
@@midnight347 you can buy them straight from summit racing.