This Supercharged Ford Super Duty Will Blow You Away... Literally!
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Fantastic thank you Andre and tfl truck!!!
Try that supercharger in an F3 50 Dooley with the Godzilla motor and then tow a 44 foot rv that weighs 20,000 pounds and see what it does.
Now, run it up the Ike and let's see some numbers.
3mpg)
THE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW
And see how it holds up going up the Ike.
Yes this is a must!!!
It would boil over with no cold intake
That 0 ~ 60 mph unloaded is insane for something of that weight and size.
A stock 1990 Corvette only ever did 5.6 seconds.
More like 7.6 seconds
Five Star Tuning is freaking AMAZING. Their customer service is like.. Unreal! They actually listen to you, they CALL YOU BACK, and treat you like you actually have a brain lol. Every person I talked to was cool AF, and all their tunes have been PERFECT!
Wish this was my experience with them. I can’t even get a datalog configuration from them. They keep dropping a link to their webpage displaying which PID’s and DMR’s to select, but should have config files to send at request like Unleashed, BCB, and others have. Don’t get me wrong the base 93 map feels a lot better on my gen 2 3.5eb but think it would be much better after a few revisions
Until they get big enough to not need every single customer….then they will turn into every other customer service dept….. crickets!
@berserker406 not my experience. I've had some issues with my SCT programmer and 5 Star tunes and they helped me get through 14 (off and on) painful hours of firmware and software updates. This went down while I was installing a JLT cold air induction system. I ran into the issues because JLT relocates the map sensor and the truck won't run without a specific program after it's installed. That's why I had called them in the first place, to order the tunes for the intake.
But making matters worse, I got a notice that I had to get it into Ford to take care of the t-case recall. I was going to need to remove the intake. But I had them rewrite the tunes with my new intake in mind, instead of my earlier versions without it. This way I didn't have to pony up for the new version lol. They sent me my rewritten, uncorrupted tunes without the intake so I had both sets. No charge.
I guess it's just how you interact with them? I also share a lot on social media, so that might help too lol. But yeah, in my experience @5startuning is way legit!
MPG loop! IKE! DO IT!
As a South Carolina resident I always especially enjoy the 5 Star episodes and the local back road scenery
There's yours Andre 💙... spinning tires first thing in the morning... AWESOME!!!
This is one of the better videos you've done in a while.
Great job Andre!
Imagine a regular cab with the 7.3 v8 with that pro charger and 4x4 that would be awesome
With short bed, limited slip differential and slick tires, it could be a real track beast
No thanks I'll take a coyote over a 7.3
billy heaton 7.3 is a more solid motor. Its a pushrod v8
@@atvrepairsandmore2482 it's not LMFAO 💀 especially when you start boosting it
why not drive a mustang?
That’s an amazing truck please do some fuel economy test with it I would also like to see them push this supercharger a lot harder we know this motor can handle more horsepower with its forged internals
The pro charge whistle is intoxicating! 😍
If going from a 4psi pulley to a 8psi pulley only gains 30hp its past its limit on airflow. I'd say the 8psi pulley needs the exhaust done
And some porting.
I was always told you gain approximately 30 hp per lb of boost...... probably needs more fuel and air
@@willrector9716 boost pressure doesn't directly equal a giving hp. You put 10lbs of boost on a stock engine and can make more with one that will flow more because of less restrictions. It's all about manifold air density. Check out gale banks work
Gotta have the right air and fuel. Not just air. I own 3 vehicles with a blower and one with a turbo....... and that number is pretty hugely ballpark because of many different factors
Yeah I was gonna say the gains are cool but could be much better. A supercharger on the old Ford 4.6 v8 damn near doubled the horsepower.
Supercharged 7.3 big block, fantastic! I swear I could see the gas gauge moving when Andre floored it on the 0-60 run with the trailer attached.
The 7.3 is a commercial engine designed for longevity and dependability, not for the best mpg numbers. After all it replaced the 20 year run of the 6.8 v10 in Ford commercial vehicles. Based on that I suspect the 7.3 will stick around for a long time.
Wait until whipple brings out a roots blower. That tq curve will jump straight up and will be flat the whole way through. Awesome work 5 star and procharger!
They already have for the 7.3 over 700 hp and torque
It's probably heat saturation. The 8 psi would need a liquid intercooler
What's the point? most Ford engines can barely get to 100k stock.
Whipple is twin screw, not roots.
@@TheXOoftheRO my all original F250 SD with 360k+ miles begs to differ with you.
Great video. Such a fun truck. Thanks for the support! Keep boost'n.
Josh has a great voice, I could listen to him speak all day
I'd love to have the white Tremor with that kit on it. That thing looks wicked.
Андрюха я тебе завидую!!!!!! Love watching your show! The whole tfl team is awesome! Keep up the good work
I've watched the video 5-10 times!!!! I love this setup...
That’s a pretty cool Ford
TP you need a couple of This in the Hotshot Business LOL
It'll pass everything on the road except a gas station.
Thinking the same thing. Watching the gas hand fall towing LOL
Easy bub. It's a big mean heavy- duty truck. That's why I roll a '19 Ranger XLT FX4. 300hp on premium ..& 24mpg+ on highway.
Is it a gas or diesel tho?
@@paulsosa1872 Gas
@@davidklimmek3192 not to bust on your ride man. But compared to a f150 with either v8 or 3.5tt it's not much better.
How ever I saw the 5 star ranger 4x4 93 tune do 5s to 60mph and that's hot shit.
Amazing truck! Thanks guys. Love Ford trucks. - NW Ohio
Awesome, as always on the truck, the mods and tfl team
I want to know the mpg so bad😂😂😂... Sorry GPM
Like 5 🤣
Well, only time will tell! My bet is while towing, better mpg with the supercharger than NA.
Should be close to stock when out of boost.
At this point it’s smiles per gallon!
Just use the TRX as a rough comparison. It’s slightly lighter than the super duty but none the less.
Great video!! That's a very nice, reliable, safe upgrade to the Godzilla power plant. And, WOW!! What a performance difference!!I like how you broke down the financials at the end. But you didn't mention a few things...
First, and probably most importantly, is you can fill up ANYWHERE. You don't have to go hunting for diesel fuel. If you're not in a rural area, that could be a challenge. You also don't have to pay the premium price for diesel. Not sure about the rest of the country, but around here, one pays between $.50 - $1.00 more per gallon for it.
Second is you don't have the very high costs associated with diesel repairs. Everyone I've ever talked with complained about how freaking expensive every trip to the shop is. You can't take a diesel in and leave with a bill less than $1500. And there's supposedly ALWAYS 'something else wrong'...That's not usually the case with gasoline engines. They tend to just keep working (and fail catastrophically if/when they do!!)
Third - what would be the difference in cost of ownership for a year between this and a diesel? Something I'd be interested in is seeing a real-world comparison of fuel mileage between this beast and a diesel. You guys love tow tests - can you take the beast for a full-tank tow test then compare the fuel consumption with a comparably powered diesel?
Again, great vid on a pretty wicked truck!!
Excellent trade-off demonstration for the Godzilla vs. Powerstroke diesel. Thank you, Andre and 5-Star Tuning!
Another great video by TFL and Andre!
2010: 600hp OMFG!!! \o/
2020: 600hp that's it? - _ -
1990 -600 HP? is it an F1 motor?
@@THEjasonTDI 1970 - 600 HP: "Dude ... Can I get a hit off of that?"
@@MarkRVillano 1970. 1100 hp bmw motors. 1990 scaled back!
Right... I love it. This is actually a really great package because the folks that need the payload capacity of the gasser can also get the power. The trade off going either direction is of course based on what each person wants and needs but the biggest disadvantage of the Diesel engine is the loss of payload due to the weight of the motor.
@@jasonmsmith2 and save a bit of $$.
Nice alternative for the weekend camper puller that doesn’t need a diesel 7 days a week!
maximum throttle and the trans temp never flinched
Fantastic, thank you Andre, TFL and 5 Star. Getting hard to justify a diesel for me these days
Honestly.. for 95% of people diesel is unnecessary.
Fun? Slightly better mileage? (disregarding DEF, 2x oil change price) cool factor? Yes. Real world usability, mileage, power all just fine with a gasser.
I have never wanted a Ford so bad
You can supercharge anything...you typically add 220 to 250hp by supercharging!
@@01trsmar added hp is directly depended on engine size
That white truck looks awesome!
Excellent review Andre!
That's some awesome power gains...but what's the fuel economy towing vs not towing in the stock vs supercharged setup?
3 seconds less from 0-60 MPH is phenomenal!
This truck is the perfect sleeper toy hauler....I like it🔥💯🇺🇸🦅
Gotta love what their doing!
Great segment! Amazing power from that engine. Nice job Andre! But what was the MPG??? 😂
Plenty power and torque with no dpf. Nice!!
Sweet setup, been waiting for a supercharger in the 7.3. If they can just get them to stop leaking oil out the front main seal and upgraded spark plug wires
This made my morning!!
That is a really nice set up!
Would love to see this in a short bed regular cab with twin 67mm turbos! That would be sweet!
They don’t make that configuration in heavy duty trucks, they could do it with the 8 ft bed though
Please take it to the Ike gauntlet!
So it blows up?
@@Lestergreen77 Sure...
Thanks TFL....BIG LIKE ON THIS ONE 👍
The first thing that came to mind was, why didn't they put a Magnuson/Whipple on that heavy truck, but after seeing that Torque curve, very impressive for a Centrifugal!
I've been watching you forever this is one of your best vids yet keep it up might have to trade in my old 7.3 for this new one 😎 I would have loved to seen the difference with the 4:30 gears
Nice truck! Plenty left in that setup. I would love to see a positive displacement SC on the 7.3, talk about a torque monster...
I want one! Thank you Andre.
Been seriously thinking of doing that to my pickup. This Ford combo sounds like a possibility in my future. Have to be after warranty period. I’d keep stock look but do exhaust and tube as well.
5.23 0-60... When they tested the TRX, 5.17 0-60.. I'm WAY more impressed with this.
That's what I'm saying! This truck doesn't get the same hype as the TRX
@Nathan King Not real sure which video you watched but I just watched two, and one 0-60 was 4.74 and the other 4.56, at a mile above sea level.
I'm saying bs
He didn’t hold revs against the brakes either just took his foot off the brake and mashed the gas that’s a big difference that would have made this truck even quicker
Five Star looks to have a very reasonable setup here. They have done very well to limit the boost to 8 psi and have a nice, big intercooler on it. The torque curve is very nice for an engine with a centrifugal supercharger. If I owned one, I would limit the tow capacity to about 30% less than the original factory rating, and be careful with my right foot to only use as much power as I need to get up those hills. I loved the 0-60 run with the boosted truck and the 15000 pound trailer, but at 16 seconds it does show that you're not going to outrun traffic when loaded that heavily. Save the power for when the truck is running free.
Thanks for your videos buddy... I think I need one on my ram...
Very nice, I might have considered it for my 7.3 but I have the dual battery setup and it looks like this particular charger needs that extra space for piping.
This is what needs to be in the raptor
Lol. WHY???? That engine is WAY heavier and the torque is WAY TOO HIGH in thee Ed rev range. That would be very stupid.
I agree. Would be cool in a raptor.
Great job, Andre! Always love your videos and your insights. This is a good upgrade, makes you think Ford should offer it from the factory.
And listen to all the complaining about blown engines
Excellent video I am seriously considering going back to a gas truck please keep making videos
Nice clean build.
That truck with the trailer is still just as fast as mine without any load at all...
I'm jealous
Same bro😂
Centrifugal blowers are ok, but I would've just gone turbo. I like the twin screws and even the latest Eaton roots style are excellent superchargers for more off idle power.
Sounds like a contender for the TRX!
Be careful and stay safe😀
Oh my. ...would love that.
5:33 Look carefully and see that exhaust heat pumping out!! Daily driving = 8 mpg? Towing = 4 mpg?
The beauty of this truck is you never need to tach over 4k. It willlast a long time
Imagine this in the 2021 Bronco!!!
That would be as dumb an idea as putting a Wankel in a truck.😂😂😂
Andre the last person on the channel who isn't against ford. Thank you for not being bias.
By the way. Great video. If I ever feel the need to upgrade I will definitely be going this route. Thanks TFL!
Yes! Now it goes into your gray Tremor! Please and thank you.
I've got a GM 6.2 with an Edelbrock roots style supercharger for about 45K miles now. Love the slight whistle while driving around town. Did loose approximately 2 miles per gallon driving around town. So now I average 16 mpg, works for me. Running the Edelbrock stock pulley which is 6lbs of boost. Towing up large hills, the truck will overheat compared to stock. Normally runs at 210F, but it will get up to 245F on long hill pulls with 9000lbs behind it.
So stock it wouldn't over heat pulling 9000lb on long hills? Does it have a trans cooler?
@@ericksanchez7787 Nope. It would not. Trans cooler on the '16 Silverado's are built into the radiator. So it does have one. I'm not talking about tranny temp, that's the engine coolant temp I referenced in the above post. Of course tranny temp rises also, but not as drastically/quickly as coolant temp. It only occurs on long uphill grades also. Everywhere else, it's fine.
@@nickfountain8420 oh ok my bad I just assumed it was trans tempt
You need a larger intercooler reservoir. Roots whine by the way
They may not be big at the drag strip but belt driven centrifugal chargers have their place. My friend after graduating high school got a 90 mustang GT and he put a Vortech SC on it. Didn’t have to mess with headers. The engine still lasted until he got out of college in 97. He drove it pretty hard to. The undoing was a dropped valve.
Excellent review.
That is pretty cool to gain that much HP and torque. The only down side is there goes the factory warranty. Thanks for the information and review Andre and TFL.
Common misconception. In order to be declined warranty they need to prove the point of failure was 100% from aftermarket part. If your dealer say otherwise find a new dealer.
My local Ford dealer has replaced many parts of my many vehicles that are all lifted, tuned, power adders etc.
Yeah its actually federal law that states an auto manufacturer must honor the warranty unless it can be proven that the failure is due directly to an aftermarket or non factory part.
@@MM-yn9ni not worth the savings in the long run if you blow a motor and no warranty $10k for a new engine not worth it rather get the diesel.
I would never own a ford with no warranty...... thats a recipe for disaster
@@MM-yn9ni Ford offers factory or dealer installed roush packages. It's no different. So that's really a mute point.
Like I said, if your dealer is trying to Snake their way out without providing proof of failure then find a new dealer. I have two local Ford's that are fantastic. Never a question asked about aftermarket parts and I've had some major powertrain failures over the years covered.
I'm very curious to see how the factory cooling systems for engine coolant and trans fluid would manage on a long pull. Maybe, I don't know, say...IKE? I'm a hard core GM guy but I've never wanted a Ford so bad lol. That engine is a monster.
8.1 vortec could give it a run for its money.
Force induction engines naturally run cool
@@letsfarm_1776 Those engines are comically outdated.
@@epickleuva the 7.3 block architecture is not exactly new either. The 8.1 block has been around for a long time. From the 454 to the overbored 500+ cube builds, it’s still a very worthy opponent.
I used to be a hard-core chevy guy until I bought a brand new 2016 chevy silverado lemon. I had so many electrical issues that GM actually canceled the warranty. They said that it was no longer financially feasible for them to find what was ailing it then basically told me to shop elsewhere. So with that being said I traded the lemon in for my new superduty and what a difference it's like night and day I'm blown away with the amount of technology ford put in this truck.
Great video hope to see more just wish you could hear the supercharger more maybe on twin screws I think you can hear them much better
Nice setup! Why not!
I thought at 10:26 u were about to switch back to Russian for a minute there, Andre!😂
Can't wait for the new 6.8 in the F-150!!!!!
There's gonna be a new 6.8 liter engine?
@@ALMX5DP yes, built in the Windsor plant along side the 7.3. the mustang and F-150 specific so probably high end models like the raptor and gt500.
@@benboyd3082 dang, that'll be quite an engine!
So prob just raptor you think?
Hell yeah!!! FORD is pulling out the BIG GUNS...they going for the kill shot! 6.8L V8 pushrod👌👌GM💥🔫FCA💥🔫
This video was quite enlightening, I’ve known a muscle car can be woken up with a pro C or super C, but to do that on a big block truck and be very comparable to a chipped diesel is kinda awesome !!
Good content..love the reviews..
Like that white Ford on that trailer maybe one day I'll be able to get one but for now gotta keep the ol f150 going
I hope this thing has stellar exhaust valves and seats. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see it break a exhaust valve or drop seat with a lot of pulling.
Could you do a breakdown then as far as what kind of fuel economy this conversion with the supercharger or pro charger would get versus a diesel? And then factor in the cost of the fuels and see which is really more efficient and better bang for the buck. The way I understand it is that diesel produces more BTUs than gasoline so I would think the diesel would still be more efficient and get better fuel economy. Also, I would imagine that the diesel would have no problem seeing 200,000 miles where is a supercharged gas engine that may be a stretch. Maybe I’m wrong
This truck will be a terrible on fuel and I can't imagine towing, the 6.7 diesel has way more torque and way better mpg. A new f150 3.5 is faster stock. This is kinda dumb really.
@Jeremy H The 3.5L is fast but try towing an enclosed (let's says 10k) trailer with it. Good luck going uphill, trying to pass at 70 mph or do 80 mph.The V6 doesn't have the rotating mass of a V8 and relies on boost for power. The 7.3 is still fast and has the power, I agree the mpg is going to suck. The 6.7 is fast and has more than enough power and will get the best mpg like you said.
207 trans temp! nice a warmed up for hammering on it
Cant wait to see fuel and cam options for these. Its a big ass LS
Why has nobody invented an A/C clutch type drive for belt driven superchargers? If you could turn it on and off at will it would be sweet. Imagine that setup with a switchable dual fuel tank (one high and one low octane). You could run cheap gas without boost, but if you want to play, flip 2 switches!!!!!!
For me the most unenjoyable thing about these powerful trucks is the open/e-locker rear diff. Even when you pedal an ecoboost f150 on the street it is full time power restriction and traction control. Anything with this much power needs some kind of limited slip to be enjoyable in the road.
Damn that is one fast f250.
I love supercharger's the noise is cool
Great Video! Is there anything like this with the new GM 6.6 gas?
“It’s a nice flat torque curve”
Torque curve changes 200 ft/lb through the RPM range.
Let’s be honest, cool as a ‘because why not’ but a P1SC is not the appropriate solution for a working truck.
This
A twin screw supercharger would be much better.
@32Fossil and resale vice added depreciation. A pro charged superduty would not do well on autotrader
Now we need to see some mpg runs, both empty and loaded, and an ike gauntlet run.
I have a ProCharged Chevy 6.0 GAS truck. It has pulled a 12,000lbs horse/RV trailer over Interstate 70 through Colorado. Heat was my issue, BeCool fixed that.
I run 8psi boost and water methanol injection by Snow Performance, a Colorado based company.
No one will dyno my truck because they did not build it but 0-60 times the computer estimates 650+/- 25 HP with full torque management and conservative tune to save the transmission.
ProCharger is great to work with and they make power.
Easily a 4 second 0-60. Time to play with some muscle/sports cars!
You're practically getting a Dodge TRX that can tow twice as much for under $7000
Not even close
@@corylee2261what isn't? Tow capacity? Because you're right, it can tow more than twice the TRX. ... And the TRX is less than a second faster to 60. So the F250 is actually vastly more capable.
The TRX is meant for off road not towing. It would obliterate the Ford
Wait but go jump that F-250 and see if it's "practically" a TRX
Right because everyone who buys a trx is going to jump it, not just look pretty in it
My son and I put a 460 with flat top pistols and some 429cobrajet close chamber heads in his 78 f150. That made that truck a animal. It would break rear tires loose pulling a trailer with a car on it.
Andre, if you are going to spend the cash on a blower for this 7.3L (cam in block), it would be worth it to port the heads and swap in a cam. It’s not too expensive and with a set of headers and exhaust, you tap into much more HP than a cam/ported engine that is not blown. A larger damper pulley is a cheap add on that adds even more RWHP. IMO the 4.30 gear would help a lot on low end for towing. If the Ford does not have a posi, Auburn makes one that would again provide even keeled delivery of power to both wheels instead of one. I have a similar setup on my Tundra’s 5.7L and it’s a towing BEAST. The 10 speed’s OD keeps revs down for good hwy mpg. Good video! TFLT is a great channel.
Wondering what the life expectancy is for the engine and transmission is after this modification. Surely not the same as the diesel.
Probably still over 500k.
It uses the same transmission as the 6.7 powerstroke that puts out 1050 lb ft of torque, so I think it will handle 600 lb ft from this gas engine just fine
Yeah I was wondering how strong ford builds these engines from the factory. Are they cast rods and pistons?
Well you have to consider you do not have all the emission equipment on the 7.3 to hinder reliability. You could delete all of that on the diesel in certain states, but then the cost difference between a SC 7.3 and a Deleted 6.7 is even more.
@@disophisis I know that the crank is forged, and it's got 6 bolt cross bolted mains. I think I remember seeing or reading the rod is sintered metal forged, and the piston is hypereutectic.
Does any high performance company happen to make a supercharged/ turbo’ed Ram?
Pro Charger sells stuff for Ram
Trx is a supercharged ram
They have turbo cummins which would cheaper on fuel, can tow more, but requires about 50% more in costs of fixes. So it depends on how you drive, if you like going quick the diesel isn't all that good. But nor is any 3/4 or 1 ton. If speed and mpg is all you are looking at, go for a 1/2 ton.
Ya dodge does
Thanks
Nice guys thanks
I'm not so sure the best argument for that is to pit it against a diesel. A diesel is more efficient, is designed to be at higher torque levels etc.
Totally agreed. A diesel is more efficient and will last a lot longer.
Yeah but its wont sound as awesome
And the diesel has a warranty.....
This thing is about 2 seconds quicker than diesel. Diesel is heavier and more expensive to maintain. Diesel fuel is more expensive. DPF emissions equipment is expensive. Diesel is better for towing though.
Some people dont want to worry about the matainence with a diesel. And you cant beat on a diesel like with a gas truck. If you dont need go tow close towards max tow capacity of the gas counterpart, a gasser is better