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Great review and camera work. Liked the lazy susan showing off the internals.
Nice review. I have the original MT50CM's with threadlocked screws that I could never remove. This video makes me want to upgrade.
Your review are so sincere and well done, they are a real pleasure to watch
Thanks for the support
Thanks for these videos. I'm definitely waiting until Star Citizen is actually launched (or at LEAST SQ42) before buying anything because between Virpil and VKB new stuff and improvements happen every 6-12 months, but when I DO buy some high end joysticks it will be heavily based on your videos and which you ultimately stick with. I'm especially looking forward to seeing how Virpil and VKB handle future higher end space sim oriented grips. The Delta is a great improvement with it's mini analogue thumb stick and twist but still lacking. I'd like Virpil to improve their scroll wheel closer to how mice wheels work (i want to use it as a speed limiter but i hear atm it takes a TON of spins to get it to raise and lower even a small amount) , add a pinky trigger or lever, maybe a dedicated thumb button or hat oriented for both left and right grips, maybe an index finger push button on the top right side of the stick,, I'd gladly pay more for a higher end space sim grip like that
Virpil teased their new Alpha space sim grip recently with news it is due in November. So far it looks to be a good step forward.
Oh cool ty
Same, back when i first backed the game i decided that when the game was in a persistent state, i would go full in, with a VR headset, dual sticks and possibly a dedicated throttle. Since then we've seen VR drop from the over $1k range down to the current price of the Occulus Rift at about $400. Both VKB and Virpil have released updated bases and sticks, and Virpil released their throttle.
Gonna keep waiting and see what the future holds, but progress has been promising so far.
Your range and depth of these Virpil product reviews are awesome.
this is just excellent . now as soon as they add a twist to the MongoosT-50CM2 Grip. I'll be able to order two sets....
Will that ever happen? I thought twist was a serious taboo in the high end joystick market.
@@barnmaddo virpil has already built twist into some of their sticks, the Constellation DELTA, for example, has it but i prefer the mongoos grip, so ive been holding out hoping they'll add it, and with the amount of dough im gonna drop buying two sticks and two gimbals i only want to do that once. it is a bit taboo to those who are serious flight simulator pilots but for us who build setups for space we like all the bells and whistles. The extra axis is a must for us.
Always great informative reviews, Thank You Noob.
That set up though.. one day 💪
Thanks for the updates Noob.
Nice review and solid camera angles!
Thanks Noobifier. I have been using the MT50CM2 Gimbals for about a month now. FYI , I have settled on 50 mm extensions with CosmoSIm Soft Centre Cams and light springs. My spring tension is set to 12 full screw rotations from the maximum setting. Awesome Review!
Mine is set to 14 turns (fairly light)
so do you run DCS A10C simulation with this configuration? I'm just wondering if i could get a WarBRD base and still use a desk extension bracket (small or medium length) so that i could have the CM2 grip for center position usage with the WarBRD base? would it work out that way since you can't use extensions on the WarBRD base. I really don't want to have a CM2 on the desk as it is too tall with the WarBRD base as I have been discovering on videos like this one. What say you? thanks in advance Stephen
Surface mounting a CM2 is out of the question. I would say that if you can afford the $1000 for this, get the proper mounts for both. I am currently running WarBrd gimbals as they are quite smother
@@NOOBIFIER1337 THanks noobifier1337... it's been a rough choices waiting for the store to come on line this morning my time 2AM (USA) so that i could jump on a few products. I got them but i hope i don't regret them. --- the base is the warbrd with the CM2 grip, + a bracket +a mount adapter for WarBRD to Deskmount...... oh boy , how bad did i do? im cringing if you think i did bad
Harpoon_Bakery sounds great actually. I was suggesting to not get the CM2 gimbal, the CM2 grip is great
Can you give me the build list for that monstertech sim rig for star citizen, looks great :)
Just got mine Friday. They are great. I just need to figure out my button layout.
You sold me on Virpil. I just need to figure out how to sneak it past the wife.
Just ordered a pair for myself. Might explain why I live alone.
This is a great review. I'm so use to the Airbus low profile side stick that the WarBRD just feels so natural. Glad they have increased the resistance in this new base but I just don't think it's for me. Again, great review. Thanks!
Thanks for the review, Noobifier!
Love your reviews Buddy, but besides that...i freaking love your setup "5:00min"..
Thanks Noob....looking forward to a V.F.X grip review in the future
Me too, plus the new alpha grip that was teased
Thank you Noobifier!
I like your honest no bs reviews, thank you for helping me to decide on hardware as this is a very difficult decision. What are your thoughts on the warthog grip on the Virpil VPC Mongoose T-50CM2 with 200mm extension for center stick? Is that too heavy for the springset?
Great Review. I still have Virpil devices on my wish list. However since the only game I would use for this hardware is Star Citizen, I am waiting till SC has more game loops and funner (is that word?) to play with progression. Once SC is ready, I will be building a replica of your pod. Later.
i am convinced i think i'm gonna save some money and give it a try
Nice vid. I have a warbird Delta and its ok.. Just ok. I got a VKB Kosmosima for the right stick and that's great. A lot, LOT better than the Delta. You should give it a review :)
Wow, this version looks even more sturdier and solid than the original T-50 gimbals. After I got my second T-50 base I noticed they were iterating on the gimbals design and the second one came with a "simpler" (lack of better word) version of the gimbals... like is they were trying to use less material to make more lightweight. But from your tear-down video I see they made the gimbals beefier, even more than their first one I got which is almost a single block of metal.
Does this means that the old models are not suitable to use with extensions?
Bekher the original MT50 is quite fine with extensions
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Good to know. Thx for the anwser o7
I would enjoy seeing your chair mount setup sometime :)
I recently made a video for that subject
How big of extensions should a person get if sitting at your computer? Also which desk mount should I get if sitting at the desk the short or large mount? Your reply is much appreciated.
Damn. Looks like a BIFL purchase
It's such a shame the Virpil extensions are so fugly compared to VKB's...
But everything else about Virpil is world class
Yes, but they are capable of accepting all Thrustmaster grips too. Pretty impressive
Its too bad they don't have an adjustable "neck" so that you can angle the stick a little bit. I personally would like a more natural cant to the right and left side, similar to the angle on the old F16 throttle quadrant to reduce wrist stress and give a more balanced left/right bias pushing the stick right and left [roll]. Just a thought. Might get a pair and actually do that myself [get creative]
I would really like to get my hands on a Virpil grip and throttle for a fighter jet setup. I seem to never be able to because it’s always out of stock whenever I check. I guess I’m not that lucky when I check.
so freaking awesome!
I have a CM2 gimbal and stick. I love them, but I am a little jealous of the metal levers on the Gunfighter Mk.III, and I am curious about how their gimbal compares to the VKB one. I may get a left-handed Constellation Alpha to use on my CM2 base, and then get a Gunfighter for the right hand.
That is a possibility. I have reviews on all of the gear you are talking about. I believe newest alpha grip has metal levers. There are people such as Redlir on twitch who run a mixed setup like you are proposing. Both gimbals are great. VKB has more torque than the warbrd gimbal, but the new CM2 gimbal has a new design and easier to work on. It was basically designed to compete toe to toe with the gunfighter base. Hope this helps
im looking forward to a video of the new warbird grip. so much more useful stuff on it rather than the first gen 1 i got back in feb. tho still think the pinky button could have been moved closer to center for ease of use
The VFX Grip looks awesome
Can you use rudder in the T50 Mongoost with CM2 moongost base?
@TheNOOBIFIER1337 Thanks for the great no BS review. I play both flight and space sim but can only afford one stick for now. T-50CM2 or Delta grip? (to pair with T-50CM2 base)
Great Job Noob ...... I have three 50CM2's waiting in a Box as soon as I get home ....... upgraded from the 50 to the 50CM2 so iI could get a Third unit as a matching Spare (just in case) ...... I travel a lot and managed to wrench the USB cable on one of the 50 boxes and it took a while to identify the problem, get the spare and fix it ........ Virpil had stopped making the 50 at this stage.......... Now any problem, I just have to swap boxes.....
I figured there might be a significant difference in feel between the 50 and the 50CM2 ...... perhaps I was wrong. I guess if you balance the adjustments, you would be ok using a 50 in one hand and a 50CM in the other..?
I believe you would have no trouble making two feel the same. Please keep me posted, I am curious about your future experience
CM2 with Z-axis left- and right-handed options. Guaranteed sales, but Virpil does not seem to be listening, emails, forum posts, FB posts despite wide interest/requests. Like so many other would be customers, I have absolutely no reason to buy anything else so I make do with what I have since it's not broken though far less functional than what I'd like to get my hands on. Too bad about their silence on it all.
Question Noobifier at 5:15 I notice the sticks are facing reverse. Do I have to take apart the base to do this? As I have some chair mounts for monstertech and I just picked up some Virpils in the video. Kinda don’t want to buy new mounts. As most of the videos I seen have the stick pointed where that mount point is. Hope this makes sense.
no, you just rotate the grip and set the axis to negative in software.
Awesome review!
What kind of tablet do you use for gameglass? and how was it's integration?
I have a Volair Sim cockpit, but absolutely love you simpit. What manufacturer and parts did you use?
It is the MTX rig from Monstertech. I have some videos up about it if you like. O7
Sexy! Damn good breakdown as usual sir!
Great review, as usual. Is the external footprint of the MT50CM2 any different from the original MT-50?
It’s not really significant compared to the original. It’s taller than the WarBrd gimbal.
Thanks Noob! Quick question - you mentioned that Virpil's software and Corsair's software for the K65 keyboard don't like each other. Are you talking about iCUE in general, or something more specific to the K65? I currently have two WarBRDs & Deltas, as well as a Corsair mouse, case, fans, etc. but not the K65. I was thinking of getting the K65, but am not sure I want any more hassle than I've already experienced... the two Virpils *were* a pain to get set up. Do you think I've already seen the worst of it, or will it get worse with a K65? Thanks again.
It’s the keyboard specifically. It’s easy to configure the joysticks on a laptop or seconds pc. Don’t let this change your plans
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Thanks for the super quick response!
Incidentally the Virpils are awesome. I don't have space for a cockpit, and I want the joysticks on either side of my keyboard, but relative height is then the issue. So now I am building a custom PC desk around the joysticks and keyboard.
Thanks again for this. Do you know if Virpil will ever make a stick to compete directly with the t16000s? An intermediate stick for us non-pro gamers?
I don’t think that is the market they are going for
interesting video. ideas for the future.
What grip are you using the the right hand position @ 5:15 ? Excellent Video!
I believe it was the small warbrd grip
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Thank You
How does this compare to the VKB Gunfighter? I can't decide which one to upgrade to from my Warthog. :/
Either are lightyears better than Thrustmaster
Nice
Any video on YT about piloting DCS helicopter with Virpil/VKB stick plus 200 mm extension? I would like to know how better it is compared to fly with no extension at all. thx
It’s possible just less realistic
@@NOOBIFIER1337 That is all about it? No more precise control of the heli?
What flat mouse(?) plates are those on the 8020 rig?
Monstertech MTX
is there still a software issue, with corsair?
did you make the seat by yourself? or are the parts included with the seat or desk?
Jack Ziom the SimPit is made by MONSTERTECH, if you google Noobifier MTX , you will find it sir. Ask any questions you have
The prices are too high for me :/
Interested to get your take on the software... I’ve heard it’s the Achilles heal of Virpil...
HU88ICANE the NEW software that just came out is CRAZY good
Does anyone have an idea what type of T-track the mounts at 1:02 use and/or where I can order it?
Answering my own question: It's called "40 series" aluminum extrusion, is 40x80mm, and is $45+$15 shipping from Amazon US for a 1m long extrusion.
Or you could just buy the mounts from Monstertech
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Of course! But I was just thinking about doing a whole bunch of custom configuration and liked the look of those extrusions. I already have the Virpil-made ones and am expanding.
Thanks Noobifier for all the great info you provide in your videos! I enjoyed seeing you on SaltEMike's show recently.
what keyboard keycaps are those?
They were on Amazon a year ago, I forget the name.. they were not that expensive.
thrustmaster warthog or virpil? also, are either of these "grip adjustable" so that I can fly dual sticks?
Warthog isn’t a left/right stick and the gimbal is 100% plastic
@@NOOBIFIER1337 ty for the reply. I read this as virpil is a better stick, and a slight insinuation that it can also be used for dual sticks, yes?
I'm working right now. I'll have to watch later. Sorry if this is explained in the video. If it is, I will just find out later.
I think the question is over 5-10 years, do you want to buy THREE thrustmaster Warthogs because of Base failures, which they don't sell separately, or ONE Virpil
Surprised you have not gone VR ...?
th-cam.com/video/rVukKCFzQb4/w-d-xo.html
Will Virpil accept Paypal at checkout?
Or is it Visa only?
I believe it’s Visa, you could ask customer support about alternative means of payment
Still no Kosmosima from VKB, shame..
How much money do you have in the monster tech rig? It looks like it cost a fortune!
Bob Delew it’s not as bad as that
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Have you ever reviewed a PC gaming headphones? I was looking to buy one.
Bob Delew i have tested some. What was the target budget?
@@NOOBIFIER1337 less than $400 but over $100.
Bob Delew you can get some very nice headphones for $400, there should be no reason to spend anywhere near that. Senheiser, AKG, are both great. Hardware canuks is a great resource on TH-cam for reviews
That VIRPIL is just damn sexy.
3:05 VirPil MFD Panels?
twoknife they are coming soon...
Bervidy??
Definition of brevity
: shortness of duration especially : shortness or conciseness of expression
Mad cats mouse ) mine died after 6 years :(
pretty stick