And has probably spent more time building/rebuilding/installing/deinstalling/reinstalling/changing it then 90% of ED and SC players have actually spent ingame xD That's pretty much the only reason I ain't got a setup, as I play so many other games on a regular basis that it's just not even close to being viable to tinker around with something like that, in relation on how much I'd actually use it
@@Oroberus I respect what you are saying. I just bought 2 alphas with bases and I am going to pick up 2 mounts as well. I reached that point as a gamer where I want an experience and not just another game. So for me, I just want to play one game and play it well and enjoy every moment of it. I also enjoyed the comment about most SC players don’t have that much time in game. I just started at 3.17 because I feel that the mechanics actually offer something to do now. I have killed myself in hilarious ways and each time there is the pain of having to spend all that time getting someplace all over again only to die a different way. Each time I learn and I am more careful. SC has a learning curve and I am so thankful to the Mining guild I joined, without those peeps I may have given up early, but the reward of sticking with it is quite high. So the cost of this setup worth it. We just need to cross our fingers that CIG delivers.
@@Newt211 I 100% understand your point and it's a fair point, thing is ... it's kind of the same for me BUT there is not 1 single game but roughly 5 to 10 to which I'll ALWAYS return and play them again and again and again but those games are usually not viable for specific setup *g* - Battle Brothers - Kenshi - Baldurs Gate - Fallout (1/2/NV, fuck the rest) - Jagged Alliance 2 - ETS2 - Rimworld Only ETS2 would be viable for a setup and all the rest of it just won't work very well If viable/payable, I would indeed have a setup too, including a seperate room for VR xD For everyone who does stick to mostly setup games (or 1 game) I say: Go for it, I've played on setups and even in specific rooms for it and it'S a great experience :)
It sucks for me because I want a set up like that but to get the stuff shipped to me it’s like 300 dollars a piece for each stick and button panel, and about 150 for each mount and about 60 for each mount adapter. And my current bills have me saving about 10 dollars a paycheck
what a brilliant use of a small space.... I was born in England , but grew up in Canada,, here ,, if you need more space ,, you just "spread" ,, bigger rooms.. bigger houses ,, bigger yards,,, well with the economic reality that has been dealt to us all in the past few years,, WE are all learning to downsize. As people in Europe have done for ages now. when I was younger my family went back to England to visit relatives,, I was amazed at how small the houses were,, the rooms,, the appliances,, even the bathtub, I am amazed you turn out such High Quality TH-cam Videos after seeing your small space there ... Thank you for showing such an innovative way of using, 'space' , keep up the great work.... .....and yes a long time subscriber to your channel, and even your new channel
I have virtually the same setup as Astro, I do keep my throttle in my loop as I use it for ground control. My only complaint is the rubber dust covers on my Mongoost bases one is already cracking. I might reach out for a replacement. Same thing happened to the covers for the cable attachment. Great plastic's and metal work. Slightly dry rubber on one stick. OUT OF THIS WORLD PERFORMANCE! Astro you look very happy sir. My Zaxis gets here Friday!
If I had the money, i'd go virpil.. but as I look at my wallet.. it's gonna be a no go for me now unless a huge life change happens. i'll continue to use my MS sidewinder. Cheers on the new setup!
Huge life changes can happen in small increments, some of which you can control. Getting there is tough, and may take years, as it did for me. Initially I just tracked expenses in broad categories, but exact amounts, not even actively cutting anything away. Find out your "normal" monthly averages for you. After a while you'll find categories you can improve. TBH, the pandemic helped cutting entertainment, travel and food expenses, but just knowing by about how much it did affect me compared to my "normal" gave me the confidence needed to eventually place my order - and knowing how long it'll take to "compensate" for it economically.
Thank you for sharing thus process. I've got a shopping cart full of Virpil but I get unsure about the attachments and it's difficult when I don't have the pieces to see how they actually look and fit on a desk, next to each other. This was helpful!
I kind of want a throttle adapter for the right stick, too, both for symmetry reasons, but also because I have long dreamed of doing ship controls in an almost tank style, like the fighter from Independence Day, or the Swordfish from Cowboy Bebop.
Best space Sim Channel. Watched many of your Elite videos. Hopefully I'll find Same amount of Star Citizen Videos in your Channel once I bought a new PC to play the game
I ordered a very similar HOSAS setup on New Year's Eve, except with the mini mount and a keyboard adapter instead of the panels. Not figured out what to do about the mouse yet but my desk is curved so probably going to have it on the right side where it's closer to me. The order has not been processed by Virpil yet though so I'm guessing their Christmas sale went well hehe.
@@sonny9608 I "only" got Alpha R+L, a Z extension, 2 WarBrd bases, 2 small & 2 mini desk mounts + adapters. Was pondering the pedals and extra cams, or maybe a panel, but not sure they fit my style, maybe later. Don't have much space on this desk heh. I really hope the Alphas feel as good as they look. Currently using dual Saitex Cyborgs. They are a bit too plastic and light, but with really good adjustment possibilities. Alphas do look way more sturdy and the extra on-stick inputs will hopefully make up for them all being fixed positions.
I ordered mine (stick, throttle & desk mounts) on the 28th of December and got notification that it shipped yesterday, along with a £143 import tax bill... Oh well, still worth it.
My Virpil clamps broke twice already. First the screw in the clamp stripped it's thread, and now recently the pins in the clamp broke from metal fatigue because I moved them every time I needed to do some coding for work. I am currently looking on doing some home engineering work to make it stronger. Another warning: be very careful of the twisting motion on your new throttle stick setup. It will put enormous strain on the wrist muscles and can cause a repetitive strain injury. I disabled the twist option in my setup after I picked up a repetitive strain injury and now use rudder pedals for yaw. Expensive but much cheaper than all the visits to the physio.
been using Monstertech clamps for over a year and moved them almost every day... no problems so far. Also they don't stick out over the desk that far. Wouldn't trade my Constellation Alpha for anything tho :)
😆 I did a lot of the same things you did in this setup. I place DCS more the SC or ED. So I took a small shelf piece of wood. I used Thrustmaster OSB buttons. I was able to place them in a position to still use them in VR. When I started playing Star Citizen, I had to use my TrackIR. So, I moved the monitor closer as well.
I had the same problem with keyboard/mouse. I basically have come to the same solution, but I took a gaming keypad instead of a full keyboard in the middle. The only issue is when I need to type, I have to reach for the fullsize keyboard on the desk.
I ended up going with virpil sticks and control panels just like you have, but I went with the monstertech mounts instead of virpil. That way i can have a small mouse pad on the outside of each stick, it holds my mouse and my razer gamepad, which i use the gamepad for wasd movement and like 8 or so keybinds that I could not place on the sticks or control panels, have not touched my keyboard in over a year while I play Elite or Starr Citizen. The I Place my monitors on a triple monitor mount to raise them up and bit and give me the wrap around feel while in the cockpit.
I want something like this as I play other games too and this would allow me to still play those other games rather than having to take everything apart.
I like it, only thing I'd change is your desk to a electric standing desk to allow for on the fly adjustments, and your keyboard to a 60% keyboard minimise it's footprint as much as possible.
theres a little Xbox controller joystick on the Constellation Alpha which you can bind to walking. You can play around with all of the buttons on both Joysticks to almost completely Eliminate the Keyboard from your set up.
Nice setup. I ordered a Yaw2 gaming chair and a set of virpils would be nice. One question though. I can not see the mount of your throttle in the video?! Where is it!
The dual constellation with the 0 attachment is brilliant, I've never looked back to HOTAS. But then I enhance it with Gamerglass (couple of stands so I can use more than one tablet), no idea why people are obsessed with other button-gadgets.
I'm interested to see what you would change after a month or so of using it this way. I have a desk that faces my flight seat (Playseat Air Force). I turn my monitor around when I am in the flight seat. I expected that I would fly in the seat, land then jump up, run around and fps from the desk. The ship, SRV and foot combo has really presented us with an ergonomic/space use challenge. On top of this I still much prefer VR when flying, love rudders and occasionally want to game while at a standing desk. I am still looking for solutions.
awesome new setup - im waiting to do one myself. Gotta wait for all the VKB modules to arrive, since buying their stick, Gladiator NXT, im a big fan of this company. :) See you in the Black! PS. You need a bigger monitor :)
I recently got a Warbrd + Alpha-L with a z-extension. I really wanted to like it but there were enough issues for me that I ended up removing the extension and just going with a straight vertical mounted stick. Here's the problems that I had with it: 1) I found it really hard to feel where the center of the range of motion was. This led to a loss of precise control and a tendency to drift sideways. I installed the stronger springs and that helped a bit, but didn't make the problem go away. 2) For me, the Alpha grip isn't really a good match for the z-extension. When used sideways, it's just too thick to be gripped well, especially when using my thumb on the switches while doing maneuvers. My hands are on the large side and I still had issues. A Constellation Delta might solve this problem, but they're not easy to find these days.
(In Elite, not sure for SC)Unless you just use some hotkeys/voiceattack for locking to the 9 options for your speed, I'd almost still want a throttle for supercruise then use the left stick for thruster control.
Thank you for posting this video 🎉. You have a new subscriber. Keep up the great work 🎉. I love ❤️ how you explained everything. I’m interested in building my own. Once again thank you very much sir.
you could also get some monstertech mounts for the chair . i use them for my thurstmaster and they swing back when not in use. i just have my flight stuff hooked up into a 4 port usb 3 under the chair and then use a usb extension from the desk to the chair . works great
Why did you pick Virpil over VKB? I can never find anyone who has experience with both. I know VKB can come over-greased and have a dry clutch so they don't wobble when you let go. I also know Virpil sticks were designed for bigger hands, but I wonder if there are more differences.
Also curious how you are managing the forward/reverse throttle and thruster binds. When exploring in supercruise it's obviously more convenient to have a standard spring free throttle, which is usually at 0%/100%, sometimes at 50% when being interdicted, or around 75% for approaches. In combat (and when manually landing or taking off) you will be more closely managing the thruster action. In ED, thruster and throttle can be independant binds and currently in my HOTaSaS I have throttle on a proper throttle, while forward/reverse thrusters are on pedals (vertical/lateral thrusters on the second stick). I am planning to get the Z extension and move thrusters back to the right joystick. Are you running throttle and thruster on the same spring loaded axis? Or are you also doing only throttle on the spring axis? If the latter, what are you doing for throttle/supercruise? I was thinking of uising the landing gear on the control panel for throttle and wondering if that has crossed your mind. I've even looked into the cam to see it has the option of a 50% detent or none, and in fact considering making my own 75% notch on the cam for approaches. I would love to hear anyone's thought, or indeed solutions, for forward/reverse throttle/thrusters for long travels versus quick control.
Since you rarely need *anything* other than 0, 50, 75, and 100 in supercruise, for that you can get away with button binds for 25% incremental (and possibly voice attack if you can't spare the buttons).
Envious of your setup! I'm just doing some online research to start planning my setup and came across your video. Obviously I have no experience in the games you might be playing but just a thought - to avoid any conflict between throttle and keyboard and / or the need to move the keyboard ... why not replace the keyboard with the number pad mounted just in front of the throttle control - and then just program your keys? You would just need to add a piece of 2mm sheet metal between the throttle and the mount that extends far enough in front of the throttle as to essentially provide a table-top for the number pad. Or you could just scrap that setup and send it to me 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
that's a sweet setup! Once I move next year I plan on building a new cockpit and I'm thinking about investing in a Virpil setup for it, so seeing it in this video gives me a decent feeling about the whole thing, thanks!
If you didn't need to use global comms, I imagine a game controller would be a great replacement for the keyboard, right? Or does SC not play nicely with controllers for the fps parts of the game?
Spooky - you're retiring your MongoosT-50, and mine arrives on Friday (my first ever bit of Virpil gear - I'll be buying a bit at a time as it's not cheap). Pretty quick from order (it will be around 12 days) but I expect the backlog for throttles is a lot smaller than that for sticks....
Im looking to build a new gaming rig with SC in mind. I adore the space flight side of SC and want something similar to your setup. Though i think im going to go with a star trek style seat/control. Going to use my recliner as the base for the captains seat.
I haven't played Odyssey and I didn't realise they'd dropped VR support for it - that sucks :( Can you still play Horizons with VR? The immersive experience of VR is the main reason I keep Elite installed tbh, so if I can't even do that any more then I'll probably bin it altogether.
Is there an way where you have an setup an file to your settings for sticks with control panel or video? I just ordered the primes dual sticks, but after watching this video I really knew to get the control panels and mounts you got and get the same setup.
i have the same setup do you have a setup you use for star citizen would love to see details on how you set yours up. I am having trouble getting the landing gear stick to work in Star Citizen.
It looks great, and an excellent opportunity to showcase the virpil kit..and thanks for sharing ..I could probably afford all that, but justifying it is another matter …sadly I share my play space with the family living room, so space is restricted .
Where do people normally put the sticks for hosas setup if you don’t have the desk mounts? I was think left and right of my keyboard, but I don’t want the stick getting in the way when I go fpv in star citizen.
OK, now for the "Question out of Left Field"... The table you have all that gear sitting on, it looks very much like a table I had many moons ago from Ikea.. where did you get it and what does the company call it..?? (mostly so I can find one myself..!)
I have recently upgraded to the same joysticks and z extension on the left except I use pedals for Yaw, I would be very interested in how you have got on in SC since January with the bindings you said you were going with have you made any changes? Do you share things like profiles on your Discord for the Virpil kit or SC profiles? Appreciate the content you post thanks 👍
Instead of spending 1.000€ in stuff I'm going to simply raise my chair ;P So everything will be on my desk, but I'll be seating higher Very nice setup Astro! Thanks for the video
Next improvement should be an articulated monitor arm support so you can adjust it for better ergonomics and bring the screen closer to you now that you moved yourself back.
I have been interested in getting a full Virpil setup but their website says everything is on backorder. Makes me hesitant to try and buy from their site, but I can't find it anywhere else either.
The base is just a shelf from my local hardware store. I can't remember the dimensions right now (not at home), but I just eye-balled it and made adjustments with a saw until I liked it.
Those Virpil desk mounts have the stick sitting way too far back from the desk IMO. I much prefer the offering from Predator where you can sit much closer to the desk
Hey, this is really a great and incredible setup! Could you specify, please if there a possibility of the fixation your engine alpha grip in the desired position position? Like you would like to move forward for some time. Should you hold the grip in this position or can you put your hand out of the grip and it will stay in this (moving forward) position?
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You should watch his video to see how he sets up his fps controls
Dude has a setup for elite and star citizen that cost as much as my computer alone 😂 but WOW that looks absolutely amazing, a true dream setup!
And has probably spent more time building/rebuilding/installing/deinstalling/reinstalling/changing it then 90% of ED and SC players have actually spent ingame xD
That's pretty much the only reason I ain't got a setup, as I play so many other games on a regular basis that it's just not even close to being viable to tinker around with something like that, in relation on how much I'd actually use it
@@Oroberus I respect what you are saying. I just bought 2 alphas with bases and I am going to pick up 2 mounts as well. I reached that point as a gamer where I want an experience and not just another game. So for me, I just want to play one game and play it well and enjoy every moment of it. I also enjoyed the comment about most SC players don’t have that much time in game. I just started at 3.17 because I feel that the mechanics actually offer something to do now. I have killed myself in hilarious ways and each time there is the pain of having to spend all that time getting someplace all over again only to die a different way. Each time I learn and I am more careful. SC has a learning curve and I am so thankful to the Mining guild I joined, without those peeps I may have given up early, but the reward of sticking with it is quite high. So the cost of this setup worth it. We just need to cross our fingers that CIG delivers.
@@Newt211 I 100% understand your point and it's a fair point, thing is ... it's kind of the same for me BUT there is not 1 single game but roughly 5 to 10 to which I'll ALWAYS return and play them again and again and again but those games are usually not viable for specific setup *g*
- Battle Brothers
- Kenshi
- Baldurs Gate
- Fallout (1/2/NV, fuck the rest)
- Jagged Alliance 2
- ETS2
- Rimworld
Only ETS2 would be viable for a setup and all the rest of it just won't work very well
If viable/payable, I would indeed have a setup too, including a seperate room for VR xD
For everyone who does stick to mostly setup games (or 1 game) I say: Go for it, I've played on setups and even in specific rooms for it and it'S a great experience :)
It sucks for me because I want a set up like that but to get the stuff shipped to me it’s like 300 dollars a piece for each stick and button panel, and about 150 for each mount and about 60 for each mount adapter.
And my current bills have me saving about 10 dollars a paycheck
I believe most of this equipment was sponsored. I don’t think it’s as much as you think. 😁✌️
Every time I think I've finally caught up to D2EA's flight setup, he raises the bar!
Nothing compared to having a SimPit avenger 202 fov.
Amazing upgrade! good to see you actually smiling at the end as well. The passion this brings to space sims is incredible!
what a brilliant use of a small space....
I was born in England , but grew up in Canada,, here ,, if you need more space ,, you just "spread" ,, bigger rooms.. bigger houses ,, bigger yards,,,
well with the economic reality that has been dealt to us all in the past few years,, WE are all learning to downsize. As people in Europe have done for ages now.
when I was younger my family went back to England to visit relatives,, I was amazed at how small the houses were,, the rooms,, the appliances,, even the bathtub,
I am amazed you turn out such High Quality TH-cam Videos after seeing your small space there ...
Thank you for showing such an innovative way of using, 'space' ,
keep up the great work....
.....and yes a long time subscriber to your channel, and even your new channel
I have virtually the same setup as Astro, I do keep my throttle in my loop as I use it for ground control. My only complaint is the rubber dust covers on my Mongoost bases one is already cracking. I might reach out for a replacement. Same thing happened to the covers for the cable attachment. Great plastic's and metal work. Slightly dry rubber on one stick.
OUT OF THIS WORLD PERFORMANCE!
Astro you look very happy sir.
My Zaxis gets here Friday!
Ok, this item is now on my every wish list . Thanks for the advice, review and setup suggestions.
If I had the money, i'd go virpil.. but as I look at my wallet.. it's gonna be a no go for me now unless a huge life change happens. i'll continue to use my MS sidewinder. Cheers on the new setup!
Give VKB a look, extremely worth it. Especially NXT line
Huge life changes can happen in small increments, some of which you can control. Getting there is tough, and may take years, as it did for me. Initially I just tracked expenses in broad categories, but exact amounts, not even actively cutting anything away. Find out your "normal" monthly averages for you. After a while you'll find categories you can improve. TBH, the pandemic helped cutting entertainment, travel and food expenses, but just knowing by about how much it did affect me compared to my "normal" gave me the confidence needed to eventually place my order - and knowing how long it'll take to "compensate" for it economically.
i agree came faster got the gunfighter on the high end and Gladiator on the med and works great
Def check out the VKB NXT!
Imagine a vr headset too lol.
I’m placing my Virpil order this week. It’s gonna look great in the cockpit I’ve been working on.
Thank you for sharing thus process. I've got a shopping cart full of Virpil but I get unsure about the attachments and it's difficult when I don't have the pieces to see how they actually look and fit on a desk, next to each other. This was helpful!
Great work, please do more like this. So fun!
I kind of want a throttle adapter for the right stick, too, both for symmetry reasons, but also because I have long dreamed of doing ship controls in an almost tank style, like the fighter from Independence Day, or the Swordfish from Cowboy Bebop.
Amazing Setup , even in my dreams i will not aford them but at least i could see how they look. Have a great time using them in your Space games.
Actually the coolest thing I've ever seen. Can't wait until I can eventually get one.
Would you show us your key bindings with this setup?
Best space Sim Channel.
Watched many of your Elite videos. Hopefully I'll find Same amount of Star Citizen Videos in your Channel once I bought a new PC to play the game
For anyone wondering, this setup from Virpil costs €1,449.40 in total based on current prices.
Grats on the new gear mate
I ordered a very similar HOSAS setup on New Year's Eve, except with the mini mount and a keyboard adapter instead of the panels. Not figured out what to do about the mouse yet but my desk is curved so probably going to have it on the right side where it's closer to me. The order has not been processed by Virpil yet though so I'm guessing their Christmas sale went well hehe.
@@sonny9608 Ooh, that sounds promising, thanks for the info!
@@sonny9608 I "only" got Alpha R+L, a Z extension, 2 WarBrd bases, 2 small & 2 mini desk mounts + adapters. Was pondering the pedals and extra cams, or maybe a panel, but not sure they fit my style, maybe later. Don't have much space on this desk heh. I really hope the Alphas feel as good as they look. Currently using dual Saitex Cyborgs. They are a bit too plastic and light, but with really good adjustment possibilities. Alphas do look way more sturdy and the extra on-stick inputs will hopefully make up for them all being fixed positions.
Sick set up, but big shout out to that C.K. Socket Set.
Very nice.
You now need that larger monitor for comfortable viewing distance.
I ordered mine (stick, throttle & desk mounts) on the 28th of December and got notification that it shipped yesterday, along with a £143 import tax bill... Oh well, still worth it.
My Virpil clamps broke twice already. First the screw in the clamp stripped it's thread, and now recently the pins in the clamp broke from metal fatigue because I moved them every time I needed to do some coding for work. I am currently looking on doing some home engineering work to make it stronger. Another warning: be very careful of the twisting motion on your new throttle stick setup. It will put enormous strain on the wrist muscles and can cause a repetitive strain injury. I disabled the twist option in my setup after I picked up a repetitive strain injury and now use rudder pedals for yaw. Expensive but much cheaper than all the visits to the physio.
been using Monstertech clamps for over a year and moved them almost every day... no problems so far. Also they don't stick out over the desk that far.
Wouldn't trade my Constellation Alpha for anything tho :)
@@cmdrrubbelspritz2115 Yes I would have to import those if I want to get them. Maybe I will make my own versions using alu extrusions.
😆 I did a lot of the same things you did in this setup. I place DCS more the SC or ED. So I took a small shelf piece of wood. I used Thrustmaster OSB buttons. I was able to place them in a position to still use them in VR. When I started playing Star Citizen, I had to use my TrackIR. So, I moved the monitor closer as well.
I had the same problem with keyboard/mouse. I basically have come to the same solution, but I took a gaming keypad instead of a full keyboard in the middle.
The only issue is when I need to type, I have to reach for the fullsize keyboard on the desk.
That's pretty sweet. Next year I'm building a new rig, and I think I'm going to go for dual Constellation Alpha (Prime's) with the z-extender on both.
that behringer mixer really stands out between the all the good equipment :D
Yeah it has been due for an upgrade for a while. It has since been replace with a RødeCaster Pro II
I ended up going with virpil sticks and control panels just like you have, but I went with the monstertech mounts instead of virpil. That way i can have a small mouse pad on the outside of each stick, it holds my mouse and my razer gamepad, which i use the gamepad for wasd movement and like 8 or so keybinds that I could not place on the sticks or control panels, have not touched my keyboard in over a year while I play Elite or Starr Citizen. The I Place my monitors on a triple monitor mount to raise them up and bit and give me the wrap around feel while in the cockpit.
I want something like this as I play other games too and this would allow me to still play those other games rather than having to take everything apart.
Chair mount the sticks desk mount the boxes split on left and right of the desk where the sticks used to be and move in closer to your keyboard
Very nice D2A, you have a very understanding partner!
This was exactly the video I needed to see, thank you!
I like it, only thing I'd change is your desk to a electric standing desk to allow for on the fly adjustments, and your keyboard to a 60% keyboard minimise it's footprint as much as possible.
theres a little Xbox controller joystick on the Constellation Alpha which you can bind to walking. You can play around with all of the buttons on both Joysticks to almost completely Eliminate the Keyboard from your set up.
I've had my eye on a Virpil. I was looking for a mounting video to get ideas. Great video.
At thing of beauty. Virpil makes some quality gear. But my wallet feels the impact quite sharply.
Nice setup. I ordered a Yaw2 gaming chair and a set of virpils would be nice. One question though. I can not see the mount of your throttle in the video?! Where is it!
Awesome setup! And nice elite dangerous background on your monitors.
Honestly, for on foot, I'd just use the thumb stick on the left stick for forward/back/strafe and aim with the mouse.
Very nice.
Why didn't you show us the interior of that control board when you had it open?
The dual constellation with the 0 attachment is brilliant, I've never looked back to HOTAS. But then I enhance it with Gamerglass (couple of stands so I can use more than one tablet), no idea why people are obsessed with other button-gadgets.
I'm interested to see what you would change after a month or so of using it this way. I have a desk that faces my flight seat (Playseat Air Force). I turn my monitor around when I am in the flight seat. I expected that I would fly in the seat, land then jump up, run around and fps from the desk. The ship, SRV and foot combo has really presented us with an ergonomic/space use challenge. On top of this I still much prefer VR when flying, love rudders and occasionally want to game while at a standing desk. I am still looking for solutions.
I agree I would like to see how they evolved the setup, or if it was not as practical as it appeared months later. What was changed? Good idea Phil
I wish I had room in my den to build such a setup.
awesome new setup - im waiting to do one myself. Gotta wait for all the VKB modules to arrive, since buying their stick, Gladiator NXT, im a big fan of this company. :) See you in the Black!
PS. You need a bigger monitor :)
gladiator is a amazing stick i love mine
you need a 55 inch oled TV my friend thats very important for this setup! Nice build!
I recently got a Warbrd + Alpha-L with a z-extension. I really wanted to like it but there were enough issues for me that I ended up removing the extension and just going with a straight vertical mounted stick. Here's the problems that I had with it:
1) I found it really hard to feel where the center of the range of motion was. This led to a loss of precise control and a tendency to drift sideways. I installed the stronger springs and that helped a bit, but didn't make the problem go away.
2) For me, the Alpha grip isn't really a good match for the z-extension. When used sideways, it's just too thick to be gripped well, especially when using my thumb on the switches while doing maneuvers. My hands are on the large side and I still had issues. A Constellation Delta might solve this problem, but they're not easy to find these days.
(In Elite, not sure for SC)Unless you just use some hotkeys/voiceattack for locking to the 9 options for your speed, I'd almost still want a throttle for supercruise then use the left stick for thruster control.
I just bound +75% and +100% to switches and use them as "auto pilot"
My TM Warthog throttle pinky toggle is mapped to 100% and 75%
Thank you for posting this video 🎉. You have a new subscriber. Keep up the great work 🎉. I love ❤️ how you explained everything. I’m interested in building my own. Once again thank you very much sir.
you could also get some monstertech mounts for the chair . i use them for my thurstmaster and they swing back when not in use. i just have my flight stuff hooked up into a 4 port usb 3 under the chair and then use a usb extension from the desk to the chair . works great
Very cool setup dude, i wish i had Virpil, the fact they don't have a hard middle point must be so nice when flying.
I wish you have wounderful moments with your new setup.
Love this setup! Thanks for sharing.
really love the setup ! and loved the video showing it and the 1 month after :D good video !
Why did you pick Virpil over VKB?
I can never find anyone who has experience with both.
I know VKB can come over-greased and have a dry clutch so they don't wobble when you let go. I also know Virpil sticks were designed for bigger hands, but I wonder if there are more differences.
Did you consider, instead of a keyboard, going with a gamepad? Would have been much less space and gives you more than enough keys.
Also curious how you are managing the forward/reverse throttle and thruster binds. When exploring in supercruise it's obviously more convenient to have a standard spring free throttle, which is usually at 0%/100%, sometimes at 50% when being interdicted, or around 75% for approaches. In combat (and when manually landing or taking off) you will be more closely managing the thruster action. In ED, thruster and throttle can be independant binds and currently in my HOTaSaS I have throttle on a proper throttle, while forward/reverse thrusters are on pedals (vertical/lateral thrusters on the second stick). I am planning to get the Z extension and move thrusters back to the right joystick. Are you running throttle and thruster on the same spring loaded axis? Or are you also doing only throttle on the spring axis? If the latter, what are you doing for throttle/supercruise? I was thinking of uising the landing gear on the control panel for throttle and wondering if that has crossed your mind. I've even looked into the cam to see it has the option of a 50% detent or none, and in fact considering making my own 75% notch on the cam for approaches.
I would love to hear anyone's thought, or indeed solutions, for forward/reverse throttle/thrusters for long travels versus quick control.
Since you rarely need *anything* other than 0, 50, 75, and 100 in supercruise, for that you can get away with button binds for 25% incremental (and possibly voice attack if you can't spare the buttons).
@@xxpoisonblxx Interesting, I hadn't considered button binds for supercruise but it does make a lot of sense. Thanks.
I would love to have a motorized chair for star citizen when it full releases I plan to make/buy one with a full sim set-up
How does the Virpil HOTAS compare with the Warthog? Should I make the switch?? Thanks for the great videos!!
Use a Filco Minla keyboard to save room.
Would have liked to have seen you using the setup to play. Good video, very clean and nice looking setup
Great setup, Monstertech's rail system may have helped too , but this is awesome dude... o7
Envious of your setup! I'm just doing some online research to start planning my setup and came across your video. Obviously I have no experience in the games you might be playing but just a thought - to avoid any conflict between throttle and keyboard and / or the need to move the keyboard ... why not replace the keyboard with the number pad mounted just in front of the throttle control - and then just program your keys? You would just need to add a piece of 2mm sheet metal between the throttle and the mount that extends far enough in front of the throttle as to essentially provide a table-top for the number pad.
Or you could just scrap that setup and send it to me 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
As a complete newcomer to HOTAS/HOSAS could you recommend an ideal starting setup based on your experience with the different VIRPIL equipment please?
that's a sweet setup! Once I move next year I plan on building a new cockpit and I'm thinking about investing in a Virpil setup for it, so seeing it in this video gives me a decent feeling about the whole thing, thanks!
If you didn't need to use global comms, I imagine a game controller would be a great replacement for the keyboard, right? Or does SC not play nicely with controllers for the fps parts of the game?
lovely Setup my Dude
Great job with the setup, walk through and your content!
Spooky - you're retiring your MongoosT-50, and mine arrives on Friday (my first ever bit of Virpil gear - I'll be buying a bit at a time as it's not cheap).
Pretty quick from order (it will be around 12 days) but I expect the backlog for throttles is a lot smaller than that for sticks....
Im looking to build a new gaming rig with SC in mind. I adore the space flight side of SC and want something similar to your setup. Though i think im going to go with a star trek style seat/control. Going to use my recliner as the base for the captains seat.
I haven't played Odyssey and I didn't realise they'd dropped VR support for it - that sucks :( Can you still play Horizons with VR? The immersive experience of VR is the main reason I keep Elite installed tbh, so if I can't even do that any more then I'll probably bin it altogether.
Is there an way where you have an setup an file to your settings for sticks with control panel or video? I just ordered the primes dual sticks, but after watching this video I really knew to get the control panels and mounts you got and get the same setup.
i have the same setup do you have a setup you use for star citizen would love to see details on how you set yours up. I am having trouble getting the landing gear stick to work in Star Citizen.
It looks great, and an excellent opportunity to showcase the virpil kit..and thanks for sharing ..I could probably afford all that, but justifying it is another matter …sadly I share my play space with the family living room, so space is restricted .
check out the ProtoArc xk01 tri fold
keyboard. might be the perfect solution for such a tight space
That is a very cool setup.
This has me itching to see more viewers home cockpit reviews.
Amazing! Can you do me a massive favour and provide a parts list for this set up. It looks great and would be fab to replicate. Thanks
1x VPC Constellation ALPHA-R
1x VPC Constellation ALPHA-L
2X VPC WarBRD Base
1x VPC Flightstick Z-Extension
1x VPC Control Panel - #1
1x VPC Control Panel - #2
1x VPC Desk Mount Adapter - Control Panel
1x VPC Desk Mount V2/V3/V4 Adapter - MT-50 Throttle
1x VPC Desk Mount V4 - S - no adapter
2x VPC Desk Mount V4 - S - WarBRD Base adapter
@@DowntoEarthAstronomy legend!
Thanks o7
@@grayfoxv Would some oracle please cost this list for general info. Thanks
@DTEA Can you share how you setup your Virpil (VPC) HOTAS and dual sticks for use with games like Elite Dangerous?
Also, what other accessories/cords, etc. did you use that you did not put on your list.
You have a really nice peripherals setup but the monitors seem small and lackluster Time for a big upgrade!!
Where do people normally put the sticks for hosas setup if you don’t have the desk mounts? I was think left and right of my keyboard, but I don’t want the stick getting in the way when I go fpv in star citizen.
OK, now for the "Question out of Left Field"... The table you have all that gear sitting on, it looks very much like a table I had many moons ago from Ikea.. where did you get it and what does the company call it..?? (mostly so I can find one myself..!)
It is indeed a very old idea table i have had for about 15 years i think. No clue it it's still made
Can you post all the exact things I need for the control panel setup. I am a little confused on your list.
Very nice setup Astro. Congrats. How can you play on such a small monitor though?? My 43" seems small for me at times lol.
I have recently upgraded to the same joysticks and z extension on the left except I use pedals for Yaw, I would be very interested in how you have got on in SC since January with the bindings you said you were going with have you made any changes? Do you share things like profiles on your Discord for the Virpil kit or SC profiles? Appreciate the content you post thanks 👍
Instead of spending 1.000€ in stuff I'm going to simply raise my chair ;P
So everything will be on my desk, but I'll be seating higher
Very nice setup Astro! Thanks for the video
For me, that means my legs don't go in under the desk anymore. But it depends on how high/low you want your controllers.
Next improvement should be an articulated monitor arm support so you can adjust it for better ergonomics and bring the screen closer to you now that you moved yourself back.
Good work Dave, love the new setup o7
I have been interested in getting a full Virpil setup but their website says everything is on backorder. Makes me hesitant to try and buy from their site, but I can't find it anywhere else either.
The monitor looks wayyy too low.
I wonder if you could set up to where you pivot 90 degrees to an entirely different monitor, almost making like you are k having the ship's cockpit?
I got something even better comming up . Stay tuned ;)
HI, love the set up its just what I've been looking for. However What did you use for the keyboard/ mouse base and what are the dimensions on it?
The base is just a shelf from my local hardware store. I can't remember the dimensions right now (not at home), but I just eye-balled it and made adjustments with a saw until I liked it.
Those Virpil desk mounts have the stick sitting way too far back from the desk IMO.
I much prefer the offering from Predator where you can sit much closer to the desk
Congrats Astro, that's a great setup.
Phenomenal. You and the setup. Long may you do what you do.
Yo DTEA have you ever thought about getting printed magnetic sheets with control mappings for each game? super handy to have and easily swappable!
What you really need now is a bigger screen. With all those controls, you no longer need voice control!
props tho you man! This is a beauty of a space setup. damn i like it xD
Hey, this is really a great and incredible setup!
Could you specify, please if there a possibility of the fixation your engine alpha grip in the desired position position?
Like you would like to move forward for some time. Should you hold the grip in this position or can you put your hand out of the grip and it will stay in this (moving forward) position?
There is cruise control for this.
Awesome setup, just needs a OLED to finish the immersion experience! I have the OLED, missing the virpil gear 😅