Obsidian writing in a nutshell
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- Don't get me wrong I actually really love new vegas's writing. This is obviously a joke more than anything because unlike certain other fallout games you can understand character motivations. I'm just saying, sometimes it can go a bit too far tho, cough cough Ulysses.
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He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence, moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic.
My ADHD refuses to be hypnotized
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notic notic notic notic-
Set phasers to lecture.
Correction, set phasers to wrong lecture.
@@Andrewnuva199 If you know what OP is referencing then you'll love Guru Mediator's remix.
If not, then it's ok but you're missing on good shit.
"A society that could prevent mankind from fracturing and destroying itself" Rome literally tore itself apart on multiple occaisions
It kind of was around for 1000 years so it did pretty good
This time is totally gonna work, trust me bro
Democracy bad, slave good
@@nickb7998 Democracy complicated, return to simpler times.
@@E7lover14 Most of those 1000 years, it was barely held together.
I like to think Caesar just _really badly_ wanted someone to finally ask him why he made a legion based on Ancient Rome, considering it’s doubtful any of his legionaries or slaves would be brave enough to risk looking like they’re questioning him
Probably. Joshua and Vulpes are probably the only ones worth a damn in conversation, and one got set on fire and the other is wearing a coyote on his head. He is really hard up for actual discussion.
He probably did. Feels like after he got rid of Graham he also lost a single decent conversation participant he had. The fact that he turns Arcade into an involuntary philosophical opponent and then gets saddened after his demise also plays in favor of this idea
His legionaires are ignorant tribals that don't know what ancient rome is, i don't mean it as an insult. They literally were banging rocks together before they got conquered by Caesar. I doubt he would receive that question often. Hell, i doubt he would get asked many things.
I think he's just trying really hard to convince the courier that siding with a bunch of slavers like the legion is a good idea
@@displayer6023 Nobunaga pounded the rice. Hideyoshi kneaded the rice. Ieyasu ate the rice cake.
Obsidian dev production
90% writing and quest structure
5% voice acting
4% creation of assets
1% bug testing
this is definitely true for new Vegas but not for anything else at least not for the other fallout games and
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@elrond1868 obsidian has a long, storied, and ancient history of mega bank. Its more that just nv lol.
if you decrease the writing and quest structure to 1%, push bug testing to 0% and creation of assets to 2% then you have Bethesda's dev production
@@rebralhunter6069 well I haven’t really played that many obsidian games and when I do I mostly skip through the dialogue that’s usually what I do in games unless I know it’s important to the story if it has one
Probably would have fit better with Ulysses' long winded "Bear-Bull-Bear-Bull" speeches.
Why am I getting flashbacks to “Just a Pancake”?
Honestly the biggest issue with lonesome road is the walls of text that get thrown at you every time you enter a new area. I've watched the dissections and I know that they're way better than I give them credit for but after a 20 hour playthrough I don't give a shit anymore. If I had played it when the DLC first dropped and was hungry for more I bet it would have come across as a lot more interesting.
I love it when Caesar talks. I'm bored to tears when Ulysses starts droning on.
Must be a legion thing to drone on:
Caesar, lanius, Ulysses, graham.
Oliver at least just says “do stuff pay taxes”
Yeah I mean at least what Caesar says is interesting. Ulysses' monologues are just faux deep babble.
Another reason why the kings are the best faction "who are the kings"
you dont know the king?!
"Where are they from"
Vegas.
"What do they want"
A good place to chill
"How have they stayed in power"
Yuh dont mess with tha kings
Minor faction vs main storyline though.
That's like complaining that the backstory of the Van Graff's is "I like money"
@@bradlauk1419 Cook-Cook would make short work of these people, forget it...
Can we all just agree that Easy Pete and Fantastic should've taken over the Mojave
Being simple doesn't mean that you're stupid.
Or bad.
Kings just want to live with style. They are not an organised gang by any means - more like a rampant anti-NCR anti-Vegas's families movement that has a lot of young men following it. The leader - The King - is a shining example of "cool", "very cool" and many other things that are very popular amongst Kings.
Oh, and the Freeside is something between Russia in 90s and, say, Cuba at around the same time. Ya gotta be together or you'd be lying in the street, suffering from drug withdrawal, dicease, wounds, rape or will be just dead.
very good points but have you considered that tunnel snakes rule?
He just goes on and on.
He is giving the entire history of a new empire forged a couple hundred years ago so…
@@7ventyZeven except a lot of what Caesar is saying about the real historical Rome is nonsense and is just made up to serve his current purpose and agenda.
@@analcommando1124 I agree with Mr commando, Caesar is just saying the parts that are convenient to him, ofc, he’s trying to convince the courier to keep working with by using half-truths.
On and on and on 🎶
Now if we’re talking bodies 🎶 💃🏻 lol
@@gaaraofthefunk7163 Damn I thought about this XD
At least you get answers, the Lone Survivor got the bare minimum of information when asking his son about the Institute and it’s goals.
the roman empire lived until the 1450s and they still influence almost everything arround structures and policy
Lone Survivor lmao
@@facundoriesco1369 technically speaking byzantium lived until then, which is was more like the eastern half that ended up developing into it's own empire rather than being tied to the history of rome
@@facundoriesco1369 yes and their military structure is still the basis for all modern warfare
You mean Sole Survivor right? Or...
- "I should be going"
- Caesar: "LISTENING, That is what you should be doing."
What if Joshua Graham set HIMSELF on fire and JUMPED into the Canyon, just to get away from Caesar?
@@Flood520 hahaha
@@Flood520 I mean, in one ending Arcade Gannon disembowels himself to get away from Caesar, so it's not that far-fetched.
Some people kill Caesar because he’s a monster, others killed him because he won’t shut the duck up.
lol
duck
muggy my beloved
No matter how hard i try not to, i always destroy the legion. As soon as i meet any legion soldier they always either insult the player or talk like they are superior, which prompts me to shoot them. Not so superior now that they're dead eh?
@@manuelredgrave8348 the loot you get from legion kill squads is also nice compared to most NCR cucks
My favorite part about this is how Arcade Gannon literally sees through his shit from the get go
Someone who thinks they're smart vs someone actually smart lol
@@latioslad1 who and who?
Arcade gannon is one of those fact checking liberals. Caesar is a based leader.
@@PoshingtonSpark*Ahem* the 14th and 8th Amendments *A FUCKING HEM*
(In other words, slavery is gay and skirts are for femboys. Join the BOS or the Enclave and stick with the real big boys.)
@@PoshingtonSpark Caesar's Legion? More like Dunning-Kruger's Legion.
I personally enjoyed this, it gives me a sense of how their whole faction is structured
I actually enjoyed all of NVs writing made me feel apart of it all, getting to know the different characters and their ideals helps in chossing how to go about quests and which factions to side with
But I definatley see how this can get boring and tiresome especially if you just want to get into a game after a long day
I don't always roleplay as a fascist, but when I do, I like my quest givers to know their "theory".
Nerd
@@xzzz444x9 nice one, thanks
I love how long and drawn out it is since that parallels very well with existing boring larpers who ramble on without saying anything substantial. Caesar just said "Rome is cool and I am smart for knowing about Rome" for a minute straight
Oh there is quite a bit in the dialogue about how it's a nomadic slave army with potential to be greater. Shame they don't explore too much of the Legion within the game and all the other material comes from the official game guides and Sawyer which fleshes out the governance and civilization more.
Also Cesar: *Proceeds to explain thesis, antithesis and synthesis in not less than 20 words*.
Explains it completely wrong which just makes it even better
guy is a hack
i mean its surprising that he managed to get so much pre-war knowledge
but he is still wrong about most of the philloshpy he spouts
its like how reich reinterpreted bunch of philloshpy to fit there own ideals and agendas
caring not for the original message.
@@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII thats just everything he says
@@PristianoPenaldoSUIIIII also think it makes it better and, at least to me, probably more immersive so, since pre war books with complete knowledge about complex issues must be hard to come by.
Maybe all he has on Hegel was some random books and publications that don't completely explain Dialectics, and/or do so in a skewed manner XD
@@HellishSpoon THIS, thank you! lol
I've also heard from elsewhere that he's simply a "post-apocalyptic neckbeard."
XD
Obsidian was like: "look this is the only logical plot youre gonna ever get again, so we gonna give you enough to hold you over."
Except it failed at being logical. So...
@@pigpuke maybe if you have the iq of room temperature
@@shanestevens5352 Oh look, a mid-wit has appeared.
@@pigpuke Coomer
Obsidi-cucks piss me off to no end. Wait till they find out this game was essentially just made by Bethesda
The fun thing about the whole Hegelian Dialectics speech is Caesar doesn't really have a complete picture of how Rome worked, and doesn't fully understand the concept he's talking about. And it makes sense, for a few reasons:
1. Caesar's not as smart as he thinks he is.
2. Odds are low any kind of prewar comprehensive history of Rome would have survived destruction compared to a more general history of the world that includes a section on Rome.
3. Caesar's brain tumor could be affecting his memory and critical thinking, making him forget if he originally intended the Legion to have a greater purpose than whatever synthesis he thinks would come from conquering NCR.
This. He's a weeb for Rome, with a tragic overestimate of his own IQ. Cesar and his Marcus Aurelius body pillow would be laughable if it wasn't for the totalitarian dictatorship.
That's actually a fair point. We know today just how wrong he is, but he might genuinely be running off whatever knowledge he has access to.
You can't just say odds are... He literally says he read about the roman empire in old textbooks... And his legion was created far before any symptoms of his tumor showed.
@@treyvonhouston8115 Not to mention it was created in a similar world wherein there was general anarchy everywhere with smaller tribes and city states holding power in their areas.
Caesar deep down realises it's all BS just that he knows it's the exact sort of Pseudo intellectual claptrap his supporters will lap up to satisfied their own fascist power fantasies. It might of worked a little too well judging by the number of unironic internet Legion apologists.
You have been sentenced to 2 hours of exposition from the Think Tank for the crime of making fun of the hidden gem: Fallout New Vegas.
COWER BEFORE MOBIUS LOBOTOMITE!
The think tank? What will the think tank do? Steal my... *gets Turned into a lobotomite*
you act like that's a punishment. the think tank was easily the funniest text walls in the game. the fact that what were apparently the smartest people postwar were somehow also the silliest was beyond entertainment it was a out of body comedy experience
Omg the think tank dialogue went on forever. I sat down to play Old World Blues when it came out. By the time the doctors were down talking Fallout 4 had been out and 76 was announced.
@@sovietunion7643 🤓
I might be weird for saying this but my favorite part of playing RPGs is talking to the NPCs, even if I heard the same speech over and over again.
I don't know why I just like listening to people when they talk and let them get their thoughts out.
Because RPG rely heavily on the story the setting is taking place in. It's like saying, my favorite part of reading a book is to understand the story. lol
@@L3raje yes, but there are plenty of people who don't care about the story and would rather make the most overpowered character and blow things up with a fat man.
Everyone has different ways of having fun.
@@Ben-ek1fz don't mind him, the Fallout fandom is just going through puberty.
As someone who's been a part of communities like Star Wars, Undertale, Hetalia, Steven Universe, and many others, Fallout went through all the same stages thus far.
First, everyone in the community got along, for the most part.
Then it got popular attracting the worst of humanity.
Third, everyone starts fighting over who has the better opinion thinking it's a fact. There's even shipping in the fandom although ironically it's the most chilled part of it.
Finally, everyone gets burnout and just doesn't care anymore (I'm already heading there), and people will finally leave each other alone. There still will be new fans being toxic but veterans will immediately call out their b.s as they don't want a repeat of what happened.
@@i_will_not_elaborate personally I care more about good and fun gameplay in games rather than story (even in an RPG) that’s why I actually like Fallout 4 cause it’s got fun gameplay and with mods it’s 500x better even though the story is ok at best
@@ver5549 sooooo you like sandboxes more
Love it in Fallout 4 when you skip dialogue and the protagonist actually says "bla bla bla".
"Sing it brother"
Ah yes, Caeser, the man who should be on a salad.
For Latinamericans, The politics of Caesar are a salad, we know all
Caeser, the man who makes shitty pizzas.
Or under a rock.
The perk for eating him, the President, Mr. House and the King was pretty cool. Only felt bad about the last one. He didn't have to die for me to rule the Mojave, but the bonus Special for eating human flesh was too much fun not to go for.
I turned him into a salad with 7 C4 charges around his throne. He didn't even mind me planting explosives near him. After the detonation and the absolute massacre I performed on his soldiers (With the help of Lily and Rex ofcourse), I saw that his body parts ended up in one of the braziers like a salad in a bowl.
Forget military conquest, he probably talked all of those tribes to death
That's how he got the first one. You'd know that if you listened.
Imagine a Crossfire-style roundtable talk radio program discussing the sociopolitical I stability of the Mojave, and the guests for that night were Mister House, Caesar, Ulysses, and Dr. Borous.
And if that discussion started when New Vegas came out, they'd be done introducing themselves by now
so the rest of my natural born life? interesting
Ulysses in the corner, forthing at the mouth as he screams "BEAR BULL BULL BEAR BEAR BEAR BULL BEAR BULL BULL BEAR BULL"
Id listen to that.
New Vegas: a full five minutes of explanation as to why characters & factions are as they are.
Fallout 4: you wouldn't understand, it just works.
Umm . . . the minutemen are clearly defined as a civilian first response militia. In the first mission.
The railroad that is underground . . . is just the underground railroad for synths. Again, explained immediately.
The Brotherhood of Steel seeks to either capture or destroy dangerous technology. Pretty sure they announce on the blimp speakers.
And the Institute . . . um. The institute, let's see here. Hmmm.
Tbf FO4’s storytelling is mostly Terminals, check the terminal’s you’ll find everything, it’s not as good of a Quality is NV, but it’s much less jarring
Less jarring? Fallout 4s story doesn’t even compare to NV
@@NymbusCumulo928 The Institute sure is.
@@aceclover758 Yeah y'all keep telling yourself your cult favorite is the best one out there. Sure no other fandoms say the same
I’m beginning to think traumatic brain injury is what makes Obsidian characters interesting.
So this is how the "I just want to punch things" player feels when encountering lore.
This is the most ambitious cross-over we've seen this year.
Well done mr Nut
0:14 Right about here is where you can just about start hearing Arcade mentally screeching. Rome was *fantastically* infamous for all it's infighting and corruption. There were civil wars every other generation or so and the Praetorian Guard even assassinated a couple of the Emperor's themselves. Rome was also at the cutting edge of Engineering, Architecture, Military Science and Construction. They literally invented concrete. Caesar really did fail to understand Rome as a civilization.
But that's exactly why he picked Rome!It's so completely alien, none of these tribals can tell him he's doing it wrong-
@@RyANWaLlEt Fair enough
Correct me if I'm wrong, but even the Pre-War 'Muhreeka had problems with the history
Y'know
commies bad, we good
GOD BLESS AMERICA and stuff
resisting to call it otherwise, seeing how dumb, ruthless, unnecesary violent and generally incomprehensible it was
Why dont you like the Legion? Is it the slavery? Brutality? Questionable ecomony?
Me: *vaguely gestures at Caesar* all of it.
it's a fucking game lmao
@@elbarone9749 its those kinds of brain dead, useless remarks that get one crucified.
@@elbarone9749 A game that mirrors real life politics, yes.
Imagine if someone actually acted like this to Caesar, it would’ve been hilarious lmao
You initiate that conversation tho
🤗
More importantly: you can make it shorter. *load shotgun* That or just... i dunno, do anything else. It's not like there was a butt load of ways to do things in this games.
damn, if you had posted this yesterday, I could've made an Ides of March joke
“It’s Hegelian Dialectics” should be used in a merch drop.
He read Caesars Gaulic Commentary but really he should’ve read Cicero’s Cataline Orations.
More specifically, Bralic's Hodiernus Stultus.
These videos get better every time, keep up the work!
Do I love zoning out and getting immersed in these expertly written paragraphs time and time again?
Yes.
Do I love realizing an hour has passed?
No… not at all.
I actually like Ulysses' dialogue a lot, thank you very much (responding to the description of this video). The fact that he speaks exclusively through extended metaphor gives him this strange otherworldly presence in a game where most characters just directly state their thoughts and opinions. Some of his lines make it unclear whether he's addressing the player character, or the player, and I kind of like the idea that he's the protagonist from a different game we never got to play coming here to fuck with us over a disagreement in playstyle. Maybe that's just me being weird though 🤷♂️
I think the biggest issue is that if Lonesome Road was a standalone it would be appreciated way more. After a player hits the level requirement and start it, they're generally already embroiled in the shooty bits of the game and walls of exposition aren't really top of mind. If it was standalone with no level cap and a fresh experience it would be more greatly appreciated for the experience it provides instead of "oh sweet, MREs"
My theory that Ulysses address player. Not just any player but a player that actually played old fallouts and walk the roads of the west and wield the power to save or destroy communities there, so its kinda like tribute to us. OR its another meta criticism of players who complete quests without thought of consequences just for the sake of completing the quest (just like Elijah criticized pip boy).
Maybe its both, but I kinda believe its a former. All these places that Ulysses talks about its obviously intended to provoke emotions from players and in my case it worked. I’m like “Ahhh yeah I see what you tried to do Chris Avelone, I appreciate it”. Ulysses and Lonesome Road wasn’t for Fallout New Vegas players, it was for F1 and F2 players.
extended metaphors are stupid
@@PonderousEclectica4383 shh youre right but you dont want the lore nerds to get mad at you, theyll never stop talking
I've never liked Ulysses, but this comment gives me some appreciation for him. Might replay Lonesome Road now.
Saitama is a perfect stand-in for a lvl 50, Explosives 100, MIRV equipped, demolitions expert character
I think Saitama has 10 Strength 10 Endurance 10 Luck 10 Agility and 100 Unarmed skill.
I have bad adhd so I zone out halfway through his speech every single time I hear it
Ah, finally, a society immune to corruption and infighting. Ancient Rome!
...wait, what
Umm, what other society?
Australians?
Bear bull bear bull,
Walk east, didnt find, couldn"t
Sands keep the trails, where the bear left their marks
Bear bull bear bull bear bull
Amogus
bear bull bear bull old world flag, they sleep in the silos, bear bull it's all your fault
bear bull bear bull bear bull (call an ambulance i am having a stroke)
bearbearbearbearbear
bull
bu-bu-bull
bearbear
(i'm getting tired of this)
*u ly s s e s*
I started dying laughing right when it showed satima already confused 🤣
Old World Blues: *Laughs in opening slideshow then long dialouge*
It takes a model of mental health and patience not to blow his brains out when you hear him monologue the whole Hegelian Dialectics bullshit on your second playthrough
I love how someone made a meme about something in NV someone could possibly have an issue with and a bunch of people rushed in like "no no you don't get it"
I know right? Plus whenever you bring up an actual flaw of new Vegas, man get ready for a swarm of people to give you a colossal essay lecture lol 😂. Seriously I’ve played the game four times and I’ve noticed flaws in the story and in the side missions but nobody wants to talk about them. I’m not saying it’s a bad game, I’m just saying that it’s not a perfect RPG.
@@Steel-101they take shitty games way better then opinions
Bethesda writing: 4 dialogue options that boil down to “Yes, no, leave, sarcastic (yes)”
Obsidian writing: Put down the controller, you’re going to be here for a while.
Breakdown of philosophy and motivation to add depth to a seemingly cartoonish antagonist
or
Hate Synths
Dont forget the multiple hour long conversation with the think tank, and Ulyssys yapping about nonsense.
I also feel using the scene where Plankton from Spongbob is like "ALRIGHT I GET IT!!!!!" would of been funny too. Just not sure how that would work since he's walking in that scene.
FONV is probably the only game I've ever played where I actually look forward and get excited for dialogue interactions. Sometimes I have more fun within the dialogue than doing quests or wandering around and killing everything.
This is why people end up joining Mr. House.
He's brief and to the point cause he's got a bussiness to run.
All New Vegas conversations:
1. How do you feel about the NCR?
2. How do you feel about the Legion?
3. How do you feel about Mr. House?
4. Die, die, die! [Attack]
It suits his character though, given as with all tyrants, he is a narcissist 😅
Hegel: "you don't know me. You know nothing of my work"
My courier, standing there, listening, clenching his fists so hard the nails puncture skin and draw blood.
Caesar talks like Darth Vader, like a man who is not expecting to be interrupted
Virgin listening to Cesear vs Chad killing Cesear as soon as you enter his tent
"This still doesn't answer my question: Why the football equipment?" - the Courier
Caesar: *takes a deep breath*
I realize why he has such long bits of dialogue. Can't recall the proper term but he's cutting people off preemptively.
Hes not allowing interruption.
Not letting his narrative be effectively challenged.
I reckon it's deliberate on the Devs part.
Granted I could be full of it.
Caesar letting you know his group's philosophy vs the NCR "erm like, democracy is objectively good, just trust us, it'll work out."
This is a common way to make stupid ideas sound smart- a long, winding diatribe that sounds really sensible while you're hearing it but when someone asks you for the gist you can only say "Go read these 17 books and it'll all make sense". There's a reason Arcade Gannon isn't impressed by Caesar's big words.
The brains in the think tank are unbearable, I remember being actually frustrated with the amount of exposition dumped on me.
Their dialogue was pretty funny. I get why you’d be annoyed by 45 minutes of continuous dialogue, though.
I got so fed up with their ramblings, it genuinely made me mad!
In my first playthrough they were hilarious to me, the second did made me think "Man, these guys sure talk a lot."
@@captainanon6849 somehow more boring than watching a 3 hour metal gear solid cutscene
@Andrea De Luca I can see that the way they talk to is meant to be that- but having them talk like that to you for a solid 45 minutes was too much, imho.
Ashur and the Pitt raiders managed to do the necessary evil raider faction concept better than ceaser and the legion in a 4 hour DLC quest.
I get vegas had a short dev cycle and didn't add a lot of planned content but the legion got particularly shafted by not showing a civilian side so we'd have more than just Ceasers ramblings and that one merchants single line about how its much safer and more orderly. Show do tell applies very much to the video game format.
We saw the NCRs coruption and over stretched supply lines. We see how house runs the strip but we never actually see the legion outside its army and thus they are by far the weakest of the 3 main factions from a story telling angle.
We know how easy it is to create with the gamebryo/creation engine. A blind baby could churn out mods with it, it takes no time to learn at all.
So Obsidian had that going for them.
Plus 99% of all the game assets were already created by Bethesda, so they didn't have to worry about that either.
Also much of the story and factions were already written, thanks to the development of the cancelled original Fallout 3.
Once you dig a little into the development of New Vegas, you start to wonder why they didn't get more done.
According to Chris Avellone, a stupid amount of dev time was apparently put towards developing.... Caravan.
You think this this long you just see the dialogue in the beginning of Old world blues probably the longest conversation I've had with a NPC in a video game ever
Im glad it wasn't just me being too dumb to understand the dialogue (despite playing as a high INT character)
This is Gold
This is the one thing I’m excited for with fallout 4 new vegas. The chance to shut caeser up mid sentence
Wasn't this also the rant where if you tried to say "I gotta go" he was like "No" and kept going?
"Okay Ceaser thats enough"
"Alright I get it"
"SHUT UP OH MY GOD"
The unarmed build trying to join the Caesar's Legion
He's giving out history lesson like
Veronica: i heard the legion like to....mount each other.
Well yeah, if all you're looking for is a good fight, you should probably refuse to disarm when entering the Legion camp to avoid lengthy diatribes by someone who read too many books. You can also just hack a computer (or just have the Platinum Chip) to avoid talking to some 200 year old guy who talks about how it all ended and his plans.
if you think about it, caesar is kinda like one punch man, bald and loves to punch
You take back that Ulysses slander brother
Then the Burned Man starts quoting scripture and I'll take notes.
Joshua Graham believed in something greater than himself. Caeser believed in himself.
@@thebighurt2495 I just meant merely listening to him. Hell, I’m over here wishing he had more dialogue or you could being him with you.
Look at Bungie.
Especially with what they do for characters like the Gravemind.
This is clearly Todd Howards initial reaction. Which unfortunately directly led to the dialogue of Fallout 4.
See Caesar, there's a reason why I'm holding a knife and my player character is named "Brutus"
See you at the senate meeting
I see this as a good thing
You should visit Chief Hanlon.
did he take a single breath during that speech?
Alright this is me at the start of Old World Blues
Love to see it
The one time he doesn’t have one of his tumor episodes.
That is what is called gish galloping, when someone states a multitude of topics (related & unrelated) as quickly as possible in an attempt to dissuade listeners or dissenters from being able to legitimately retort against one idea at a time.
Caesar really gave a whole 5-minute monologue on his brand of Godless ultranationalism knowing I was gonna atomize him, anyway
Well, he wanted to _talk_ to you, after all
And he did it!
What happens after that doesn't really matter.
Saitama doesn't seem to know how to skip dialogue.
Watching this just reminds me that I need to finish OPM.
I just appreciate the fact that despite all his posing, Caesar is *completely wrong* in his understanding of why Rome worked.
It weird i can listen to Doctor Venture 8 go on and on and it good but Ceaser like "I named myself after a Salad" and i wake up putting Caeser head on his bodyguard bodies.
"Rome is completely foreign..."
And then he proceeds to list attributes that all apply to modern America.
Man after he said dialectics I realised that caesar is Kurtz from Apocalypse now (Heart of Darkness) My favourite movie ever made.....damn only took 40 years for me to realise this lmao.
"You are you who bears the sigil of the Bear but does not wear it like the others of the Bear that bear the Bears sigil against those who bear the sigil of the Bull who bears it against that of those who bear the sigil of the Bear?"
Me with my mild knowledge of Rome: Is incredible how much bullshit is everything you said.
I feel like this playing disco elysium
Yo it's like every bad Rome take in one speech. Dude learned Roman history by way of Mein Kampf.
Isn't that the point/joke?
"Ah, yes, I shall emulate the civilization that advanced Engineering, Construction and Military Science for centuries by rejecting science."
“That’s a nice argument Caesar, why don’t you back it up with a source?”
“My source is that I made it the fuck up.”
Damn, if this is how he talks to a regular wastelander about his faction, imagine the tribes of Arizona listening through it? Graham must've been one hell of a translator.
Not sure about this, but wasn't Rome a republic with a senate? Wasn't there alot bribery, in-fighting and corruption present in ancient Rome too?
Indeedy. There was also a lot of scientific advancement and very little cultural homogenization. In fact, if you accepted Roman authority and paid your taxes, they practically left you to your own devices.
@@thebighurt2495 Oh man so Caesar is just plain wrong about everything.
Next time, do you mind using the dub? This is good though.
Nah sub is way better
The best thing fallout did for me was to prepare me for the 18+ visual novels that id be playing today. All that long talk would be worth it in the end.