What If Canute's North Sea Empire Survived? | Alternate History
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- In the year 1028 Danish Viking, Canute the Great, had successfully united the realms of Norway, Denmark, and Saxon England under his kingship. The resulting union has come to be known as Canute's Empire, or the North Sea Empire, though regardless of what you call it, chances are few will have heard of it, as despite the tremendous potential this almost empire held, it fractured almost immediately upon Canute's passing. Why did the North Sea Empire collapse? Could it have survived? What if Canute's North Sea Empire survived? We'll be answering those questions in today's video, covering both the history and alternate history of this Viking Empire that almost existed.
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Happy Leif Erikson Day!
Hinga dinga durgen
One Olof The great Norwegian explorers.
@@hawkevick9184 Icelandic you mean
@@halldorherm WTF NO!!! He was a northman , you are a Northman. You could call him Greenlandic by you’re definition.
@@hawkevick9184 Your logic makes little sense. My ancestors were Norse, Leif's ancestors were Norse. Both of us were born in Iceland. Being Norse and Norwegian are not the same.
Pleasure working with you on this one!
hi hilbert big fan
Make a colab with Koifish again or else
Please continue to take part in alternative history! You have such a great grasp over history. 😊
We'll have another video out next Saturday around the same time! Stay tuned!
Can you consider doing either a scenario, What if Patton and Smedley Butler were both alive by the end of WW2 and somehow launched Coup against President Truman and the U.S. government or what if General Zukhov coupled Kruschev after dealing with Beria?
Great video. 😎👍
Glad to see the What ifs return. Keep up the great work and Peace. ✌🏻
@@crusader2112 By Truman do you mean FDR?
@@MonsieurDean No, I mean Truman, since FDR would be dead by the end. Although a scenario against FDR could work as well.
Can you do what if the weimar repuplic survived?
@@MonsieurDean What if Harold Godwinson won the battle of Hastings.
Saw the name of Canute immediately thought of Vinland Saga
Soon as I saw the map for the North Sea Empire I thought of Vinland Saga.
It's the same Canute. Great anime btw
I see this timeline as an absolute win.
That's anti semitic
@@stevencooper4422 trolling much?
@@stevencooper4422 good
What if Christianity spread to Central Asia instead of Islam?(or what if Nestornism stayed in Central Asia?)
What is NEstornism?
@@jmgonzales7701 A "heretic" branch of christianity
A rejected denomination of Orthodox Christianity.
@@magicaljagical647 okey ?
The founder of was one of the Patriach of Constantinople, wouldn’t that mean that basic structure of the sect has orthodox parts in it?
Mr Z, thank you so much for this, I’ve taken a interest in this over the past few weeks, and it comes out on my birthday! Keep it up mate!
Happy birthday, pal!
@@MonsieurDean thanks mate!
Thanks for the video. The North Sea Empire is an often forgotten topic, which is surprising given it was the second most powerful entity in the region after the HRE..
I mean, it wasn't a real 'Empire' & it lasted for only about 20-some-odd years, so it's not exactly surprising nobody's heard of it.
It didn't really last very long
@@jeandehuit5385 As good as an Empire as the Holy Roman Empire. Your definition of your empire is based on your bias.
This is such a footnote that here in Norway this "empire" is basically unheard of to the point of there not even being a norwegian article about it on either Wikipedia or the Great Norwegian Lexicon (Store Norske Leksikon, SNL). It isn't even deemed worthy of mention in the general history of norway page on SNL so that was rather strange. The internal Chrisitianisation probably took all the attention away from the supposed Danish rule over a then recently united Norway.
Do not let the recent unification fool you however. Signs of Norwegian national identity was already present as early as 1000 in account from the Battle of Svolder where the "nordmann" is made distinct from the Dane and the Swede.
Ganske rart at SNL mer eller mindre ikke skriver noe om det
@@felixtl1496 Det var fordi danskene ikke styrte så mye. Danskene er smakinger må vi huske.
Det har trolig noe med at det var så kortvarig. Ganske irrelevante resultater for kongene etter.
@@hawkevick9184 The Danes are... tastings?
Here's one: What if Vlad the Impaler got the support he was promised? IRL, before his temporary but highly successful (mostly since the majority of the ottoman army was away sieging another place to be fair) campaign into Ottoman ruled lands, Vlad was promised the support of Hungary in his war against the ottomans, but said support would end up never coming. So, what if instead of just little Wallachia, you had Wallachia and all of Hungary invading the ottomans, with the papal gift never being taken by the hungarians (or if it was taken by the hungarians like irl it would be used for the war effort at least) either potentially, one could have a much more successful attack against the Ottomans, which seeing as just Vlad's little campaign supposedly got quite the major reaction all over the place from Italy to Kaffa, even if this wasn't a successful campaign in the end it *could* reinvigorate Christendom to try a more final and more proper crusade against the Ottomans
You know, there's one "what if" question I would love to see answered, what if one of the Diadochi "empires" (the generals of Alexander the Great who waged war after his death to see who would succeed the Macedonian leader) survived?
That sounds very cool I would love to see this as well.
That'd be very difficult...
Macedon was already so hated by everyone in Greece for torching Thebes and demanding they all go to Persia for Macedon's benefit.
The Selucids were so greek-centric that basically everyone they conquered also hated them, making for constant revolt and breakaway states.
Aaaand the Ptolemies were so fucking degenerate that I don't even need to finish this fucking sentence.
Honestly, the best bet for this would probably be Pergamon. Some time late in the Diadochi wars, Pergamon gets a lucky break and bites off a massive chunk of Selucid Anatolia. In this timeline, Most of Anatolia and parts of Thrace are controlled by Pergamon rather than by Macedon or the Selucids. As Pergamon was a Roman ally, they would fight against Macedon and the southern Greek leagues in the Macedonian wars, growing more and more powerful, slowly eating up more of Thrace and Armenia.
In our timeline, the King of Pergamon left the kingdom to Rome in his will to prevent an extremely bloody war between the two fucking over his people. In this timeline, the king of Pergamon figures the kingdom's become powerful enough that they can fend off Rome, at the least deterring them from attacking and at best perhaps could resist a small scale attack with a decent victory.
At some point however in the 2nd century BC, most likely in the 140s at the same time as the third Punic war, as this was when Rome established almost total control over Greece in our timeline, Rome would attempt to destroy Pergamon, likely on some bullshit Cassus Belli the Romans manufactured.
From here, it could go two ways.
Way 1) If the Pergamenes decide to stick with traditional Greek/Macedonian Phalanx formations for their military, they would lose to Rome. The rough geography of Western Anatolia isn't particularly good terrain for the Phalanx, and unless your soldiers are trained and disciplined like Sparta's or Macedon's (Under Alexander), Phalanxes have a tendency to break up over this kind of ground. This gives Roman manipular legions a decisive advantage and would likely defeat the Pergamenes and absorb the kingdom. The timeline would probably not shift too much from this point and would be much like ours. The Parthians would conquer the remains of the Selucid empire and would sit around on Rome's borders as Roman generals repeatedly took (ineffective) shots at them for basically no reason for the next few hundred years.
Way 2) And I think this is the more likely one given how the scenario has played out so far... The Pergamenes see how effective the Roman legions are against the Phalanxes of Macedon and the Greek leagues, and they attempt to imitate them, much how the Pontic kingdom would later in our timeline. In this timeline, when the Romans invade Pergamon, they're treated to a long campaign, in which each and every battle seemed to go Pergamon's way (despite greater Roman numbers) and after a while the Legions are forced to retreat, allowing Pergamon to continue to exist as an independent state.
After this war, Pergamon would struggle being definitely the smaller power on the Mediterranean as Rome would grow in power and influence while it stagnated. Soon enough, the Parthian invasion would swallow the Selucid empire and again, would sit around on Pergamon's borders doing not a lot. From here it would be up to Pergamon how it would play out. If it did nothing, it would eventually be attacked by Rome again and likely would not be able to resist it a second time. If they allied with the Parthians they would likely instantly make themselves a target, prompting the aforementioned attack. Even if they were able to resist it with Parthian assistance, they'd likely become essentially a Parthian client state. The best solution I could think of them would be to use the Parthians to divide up the Ptolemaic kingdom, with the Pergamenes taking Egypt proper and the Parthians taking the levant. This would likely also provoke a war with Rome, but this time it would be a war in Egypt rather than within Pergamon's borders, and in this case, the Pergamenes and Parthians would be much better prepared for it than Rome and would likely win, with no foreign troops on Pergamene soil, the Kingdom would remain independent and able to interact with the others around it as an equal.
How the future would pan out beyond this... I really can't predict, and really what I've already come up with is probably not how it would go down, but this would be my best guess.
@@moritamikamikara3879 Really impressive, even tho I don't think they would be able to defeat Rome but I know only the basic about this period because I find Pax Romana to be rather boring.
All I care about is see one video about something else than Rome or alternate nations that existed after the fall of Rome.
And since it has never been done before, I thought a what if video based on one of the Diadochi empires would be interesting.
@@moritamikamikara3879 how were the ptolemaics degenerate?
I really didnʻt expect Hilbert to show up. Its great to see you colab with all these great youtubers!
I love how you can just tell that he couldn't be bothered to draw the Norwegian fjords
What if Italy united during the Renaissance?
Great concept!
United Italy under Borgia, Medici or Sforza?
@@alishermukhametkali9230 Well the likeliest POD would be under the Visconti, specifically Gian Galezzo as he basically conquered all of (northern)italy before suddenly dying from fever
@@alishermukhametkali9230 Sforza for sure
@@blob7963 Sçvartsczí
Another thing, but the Norse had a fair relationship with their Northern cousins the Rus. If the North Sea Empire survived, I could see them strengthening their relationship with the Kievan Rus dynasty, especially in terms of trade. And if some alliance was formed, then they might've had abit of an easier time against the Mongols, with their joined forces. Who's to say how it would turn out, but still I think the possibility is intriguing.
That part with Vinland. Oh Thorfinn could've been a very happy man.
Loved this one. More Anglo-Saxon/Viking scenarios please!
It would be cool if you made a video about the Carthaginians winning the second Punic war
Can you do a video on what if Germany and Britain stayed friends before WW1
Very interesting idea, and I've done something similar in the past, but it might be worth revisiting!
@@MonsieurDean thank you for considering😊
Honestly this was already happening (slowly). After 1912 Germany abandoned the naval arms race and efforts were made to reconcile the two countries. If WWI was delayed, it's plausible that Britain and Germany wouldn't fight each other.
This is actually pretty interesting. I’m gonna make a conworld based on this, with many conlangs, as well as much alternate history
Could you make a "perfect World" were you combine videos for example:
- Australia better version of Germany
- What if Teddy Roosevelt won another term
- What if African Americans colonized Liberia
Similar to what if WW1 ended in stalemate.
But African Americans did colonise Liberia... is that the joke?
How and why would Australia become a better version of Germany?
@@sdagoth3037 its either a joke, or it is the australia-austria counfusion once again
@@commemorative i imagine they mean what if a majority of african americans went to liberia
Finally, someone makes a video on the North Sea Empire.
Excellent video
Hey this is awesome
We need a 2nd part🙌🏻
I don't know if you have the time to do this but you should consider making a short like the North Sea Empire I would love to see that
Great video
Thanks!
Art style is improving
Yay looks like someone watched Vinland saga
Another scenario worth expanding on, great work. I didn't know Denmark ever held any prominence in Europe at any point in it's history.
Denmark was pretty powerful for a good while in Europe. Look up the Kalmar Union which was Danish lead.
Denmark raped England so badly that pretty much all ethnically English people (at least in the east of England) have a danish ancestor. My grandpa looks very danish and he’s English. Super blonde, thick eyebrows, blue eyes and he’s super strong haha
@@haltdieklappe7972No they didn’t you clown.
Byzantium's worst noghtmare. Normans on both it's frontiers.
"latins! latins everywhere!" -Norman Buzz to Roman Woody
What if the Norse never converted to Christianity?
What if Alexander The Great had lived? (remake)
What if Justinian and Belisarius reconquered the west?
All fascinating questions, I don’t believe I’ve ever entertained that first one.
Fun fact;
Olav the Holy (Norways "patron saint") was never a true [edit;] CATHOLIC christian, and used Crow-bones and Sages (Seiðmannr) for soothsaying.
When the Catholic Church tried stepping in as Olavs "holy representatives" as an attempt at stopping pagan/monarchial power from re-emerging,- the poorer Birkebeiners did a revolt against the Bagler/Monarchial "trojan horse coalition".
To this day, Norway has never truly been part of the Catholic Church (unlike what many sheep would like to think).
The Oldenburg/Glücksburg House is currently the only thriving house of Europe,- simply because the people stopped them from becoming Catholic puppets.
"Disney" is a Norman name that always has been loyal to the North-sea Empire.
Fuck the Pope, and may the Waves of the Ocean always kiss us goodluck.
Odin is short for "Wotan-az" meaning WaterBird.
The viking flag is a black&white WaterBird.
Aberdeen means "Riverdrowned" or Ebrdw(u)n, hinting to a time when the mouth of this river was somewhere else.
That place being an anchorpoint of Bifrost (packice), allowing Norsemen to traverse the Norwegian Trench during winter.
If you truly wish to learn of the North-Seas history, Tolkien and Disney is a pretty good start.
The best source is of course if you learn the Etymologic root of north sea myths and placenames.
Always made me wonder what if Anglo-Saxons never converted to Christianity and remained in their war like pagan ways. Also how would their interactions be with the Vikings be if they invaded a pagan England.
What if the Norse never converted to Christianity? What if Alexander the Great had lived? And what if Justinian and Belisarius reconquered the west? Welcome to a world where the Vikings never came, and where history plays out differently.
10:48
Don't be so sure about that.
Remember that Normandy still had close ties to Scandinavia, the upper class largely descending from Scandinavia.
If the north sea empire had endured they'd probably have received support from this empire to hold onto their lands in France.
Edit:
Alright, you *did* address this.
But I think you still underestimate the ties.
The North Sea Empire would probably support the Normans in any situation where they don't have the upper hand in France.
So with more resources backing them it's highly unlikely that they would *ever* have been dialoged from France.
Instead I suspect that they would have formed a independent realm there, no longer a vassal of France.
The Normans by about the second generation were basically French though. William the Bastards grandfather, Duke Richard II, went to war with Normans in the North East of the duchy with other Normans who still worshipped the old gods and not the Christian one. The Normans it seems tried to escape their heritage in the pursuit of being seen as more French. Even though the actual French never considered them as such.
I recently took interest in a subject relative in time to the POD in this video, so I felt like suggesting this: "What if Harald Hardrada had won the battle of Stamford Bridge?" Alternatively another title could be, "What if Harald Hardrada had conquered England?"
The navy of the empire would be downright terrifying. In our timeline, the UK was pretty much always the dominant naval power, however, Denmark-Norway also had a very impressive fleet (until the English burnt it down). Now, combine that + the fact that ships are so key when your realm is so far apart (i.e. more ships to the empire), it's hard to see a scenario where they collapse. Perhaps Denmark could be invaded by land, but Britain, Norway, and Sweden are all protected by sea, so they're pretty much safe.
Why so few views? Seems criminal I’ll be forwarding your video to all my mates
Canute was a grandson of first Polish prince Mieszko 1, and he had a well established alliance with Polish king Boleslaw.
If the north sea empire ever wanted to gain more control over the Baltic, unless relations between these 2 countries loosen a lot until that time, Poland would probably be more of an ally than rival
Heeeey It's Harald! He's currently my bestie in Civ 6. I'm pushing for the _For Queen and Country_ achievement as well as a few others, including _Island Hopping_ - which is a Domination victory on Huge Island Plates, which means its a goddamn slog but at least I've got *_GIANT DEATH ROBOTS!_*
Would love to see this scenario taken further
Great team up, Hilbert is interesting.
Now, this is what I called Imperial authority! The North Sea Empire having both Sweden and England along with Scotland as provinces, truly is an Empire. But with the Holy Roman Empire being decentralized, would the North Sea Empire try to use this as a golden opportunity to take some lands and even have the Holy Roman Empire itself?
If so what would be the consequences of the North Sea Empire conquering the HRE? What tactics will they use? What will be the advantages and disadvantages of trying to conquer HRE? What will be the benefits of conquering the HRE? Who would be charged if the Holy Roman was conquered by Canute's North Sea Empire?
Speaking of the Holy Roman Empire, who runs the Empire? Is it the Hapsburgs? What about France, will the French Revolution still happen in this alternate timeline, or will not happen?
Who will be the current ruling house to rule the North Sea Empire in the modern era? Which type of government did the North Sea Empire become?
Why haven't Caunte been made as Emperor? Should Canute and his successors have Imperial titles rank higher than King, such Emperor?
Anyway, this is a great What-If video Mr. Z, this is what Britain may become if have been Empire way earlier with Canute's leadership. I was worried at first you stopped making videos but I notice a new video you made just right now. I'm glad you're back and running your channel, what you made to create these videos and your work have made my day worth it!
Can you do a video on what if Africa had united during the Scramble of Africa against European colonialism?
Great surprising upload you did and keep up the amazing work!!
The Holy Roman Empire was an empire founded in the 12th century in the Holy Roman Empire, a confederation of German states, as part of the late medieval German nation-state system. The HRE had no national leader, but was ruled by a collective leadership of the nobility that formed the Holy Roman Emperor's council of electors. The Emperors were elected (or anointed) by coronation in Rome or other coronations elsewhere, and the Emperors held absolute power over the Holy Roman Empire (and its constituent territory), including the ability to depose emperors and to grant the title of Holy Roman Emperor to other rulers.
i didnt know king canute was a real person i thought he was a vinland saga character
Lmao.
Best thing about being a historian watching Vinland Saga. "I can't wait for this character to fucking snap and become the dude I read about."
It was so satisfying watching him lose his shit.
Im late to this one but oh boy I've been waiting
Vinland Saga moment
*seriously go watch or read vinland saga*
We need a vinland saga dub in Icelandic and danish
So you are telling me... strong Denmark equals strong Poland? well hot damn! I love this althis scenario :3
Isn't this just historic Poland?
I'd expect Poland being a major rival of the Northsea empire because both would want to rule the baltic sea trade
Remember that Cnut was a grandson of Mieszko I and that Poland had a rough time after Boleslaw's death. It's entirely possible that a descendant of Cnut becomes King of Poland by about 1100.
@@0799qwertzuiop maybe, but they would both benefit from a weak germany
@@turtek12 what if Norse-Baltic Union. An empire of Poland, Lithuania, Scandinavia, Finland, the Baltics, and the Kieran Rus?
this need a part 2
such a beautiful timeline
One possible point of contention between the NSE and HRE will be the Low Countries--Flanders was one of the wealthiest parts of Europe at this time, and its proximity to the North Sea trade routes and to the HRE's heartland will make it a frequent battleground between Cnut's descendants and the Ottonian Emperors.
You should make a part 2
Interesting
Please make a video on fan made superpower nations
What if the boxer rebellion was successful
55 days intensifies.
@@John.McMillan Sha Shou!
1:27
This enraged the Danes, who punished England severely
Monsieur Z, I took this minute out of my day just to inform you I got an advertisement about prostate problems ... I'm 20
I know there are a gazillion video on alternate WWII but I have two questions that seems overlooked: the first, What if France had completely and unconditionally surrendered in WWII? and the second one : What if Hitler's finale solution was for the French instead of the Jewish people? I came up with these two question after I read a biography on Philip Pétain... What would you think to this?
You had to watch something to come up with this>
I came up with this after being English.
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Love the video but It was fortunate of you to not get demonetised because of the thumbnail 😅😅😅
You should expand on the Norman Mediterranean Empire.
The whole premise here is "what if a thalassocracy lasted"... I feel like that fact needed more addressing than the specifics of why it didn't in this specific real life case.
marvel: avengers is the most ambitious crossover
me:
Well, now I feel inspired to play a round of Crusader Kings 3 to test if you are right.
Why can’t I see any videos from the last week on your channel???
can you do a: what if Jiří z Podebrad united Europe? It was a Bohemian monarch who saw the threat of the ottomans and wanted to rally Europe against them, but due to husite business in the Czech lands, no one wanted to associate with him. Would be cool scenario.
Could you do a video about what if the kalmar union survived?
I want to hear more about that Norman Holy Land/North Africa empire.
The best timeline
Can you make a part 2 for if the north seceded from the south? I think it’s realistic nowadays
yoo collab with Hilbert let's gooo!
A Norman-Byzantine Empire rounds fascinating
You mean Norman-Roman Empire?
Yes, the French-Roman Empire
idk man. idk how he managed to hold 3 kingdoms and a full empire just like that, in one lifetime. bruh every time i try raise the north sea empire in ck3 it's just a clusterfk lmao. props to this man
4:07 Aral sea still exists, so sad what hapened to it :°(
Monsieur Z, I would LOVE to see a sequel to this scenario.
With regards to North Sea coloization of America. I believe that canute was catholic. Meaning his empire be the same.
Any protestants in england or any another part of the empire would see some level of persecution because of their believe and with conflicts in Europe flaring up between protestants and Catholics, I could see people setting north America who don't belong anywhere else.
They would develop a separate identity sence the danish would practice and even stronger version of statuary neglect than Britain did with the thirteen colonies... But because their rivalry with France they would want A strong counter to them in north america.
As for the Normans Their empire most likely enter a personal union with the north empire and a closer alliance after the ottomans took constantinople, meaning they would've struck southward towards the norman territories in the holy land and north Africa.
The ottomans also would threaten the polish meaning their would a triple alliance against this rising power, The Normans and poles doing the blunt of the fighting while the north empire finances the war and sends a fleet or two.
I also believe that the French and ottomans where friendly in actual history, I may be wrong.
BUT.
In this time line I could see the French allying itself with the ottomans causing an early WW1 kind of situation.
Spain... Wouldn't be first to be world but would've been the first in colozining latan America, so nothing changes there.
But they size the opportunity to take Sicily from the Normans and maybe divide Italy between them and france.
Meaning Spain would join the war as well.
The North american front would end in danish victory.
Taking Quebec and Cuba and Florida, a few other islands the Caribbean but would the interior of Canada to french since they would already be stretched thin.
In Europe the Normans would most likely be divided up by Spain and the ottomans.
Spain taking Sicily and ottomans taking north Africa and the holy land.
And what's left would wbter a personal union with the danish, like Scotland to England.
Poland would cement itself for a short time the ONLY power in the balkins.
And that's only to 1500 to 1600's!
I think making sequels to your videos would be an excellent idea and if you reached the of this I thank you for time and patience.
I read "Canute" as "Canada" and I was really confused..
one of the towns nearby me Knutsford is named for King Canute
Im kind of curious what would've happen if gnosticism managed to survive in Egypt/ if the Cathars survived in france
What relationship would this northern empire have with the Iberian kingdoms and their Reconquista? Since it wasn't Norman, would it have sent men to fight in any of the Crusades, in particular the one where they stopped to help liberate Portugal on their way to the Holy Land?
Can u do what if creater mongolia happend or partial mongol empire survived the 15th century?(hope i made this sence)
If it had survived it would have had a dramatic effect on events in england... among other places.
What if the slavs migrated East/South (into the Middle East south not Southern Europe) instead of west?
I have no enemies.
For some reason the flag on the cover made me think of bad sewing.
what would this empire be like if it made it to the industrial revolution and the 20 century?
May want to add in the Frisii, they were known allies to the Danes and would eventually likely either join them to stop anyone getting on their lands or less likely become close allies. The Danes and Frisii did marry each other on free will and out of political needs. So it isn't far fetched in this scenario.
What if the Napoleonic wars ended in a stalemate? Or the great northern war ending in a stalemate
What about the Battle of Clontarf and Vinland?
With everything being a lot more centralised in this timeline, it would be much easier for the germanic north sea empire to keep its holdings in Ireland.
@Moritami Kamikara Yes, but that battle was the beginning of the end of the North Sea Empire, The Northmen need a victory there. Also, Ireland could be used additional ports towards the colonization of Vinland.
I winder if the hanseatic would ever have existed in that alternate timeline.
Danish rules!
He says in English.
@@hubjump Lmao
Canute the Great is peak-performance; the Danes themselves are mediocre-at-best.
There are two kinds of people I hate in this world; people who are irrationally intolerant of other cultures, and the Danes.
@@jeandehuit5385 You say this while commenting on the North Sea Empire? The fuck did you expect to see here, English plays?
@@hubjump LMAO
What about the timeline of vikings - bo jonsson grip - axel oxenstierna - neutral countries
What if the Knights of Malta became a superpower?
Unfeasible
Yeah youtube notifications this was posted 24 seconds ago
As a Swede.. hearing "canut" so many times.. wondering if its just the name "Knut"
It is. Knútur in Icelandic
Wait, I've seen this before it's a _classic!_
Oh i hope we can get a better look at this norman empire. It was kind of cut off.
A divergence of darkness one might say
Were all are islands - Some nearly islands too
Plus we have a cross in our flag
Normally a counterfactual posits a different outcome at one key moment.
This one requires just about EVERY variable to be different. 🤷♀️
It's just fantasy. It's a laughable video, really
Vinland Saga!
This reminds me of the Greeks and their Thalassocracy
Based and Danepilled
What if Philip II of Macedonia survived the assassination attempt?