My personal experience playing with less experienced players: Getting that camp/that lane xp is indeed important but at lower levels people don't know how to time camps to get that rotational advantage and the rest of the team is often so trigger happy that even though you'll get more lane xp, your team is very likely to lose a lot of xp in lost teamfights at the same time giving the team that is not soaking optimally in lanes the advantage as after they win that teamfight they can also get forts and then also some camps. So although I agree soaking xp and getting those camps at smart moments is amazing, if the rest of your team is suicidal, it still won't get you the advantage. Sometimes it might be better to do the wrong thing successfully together than the right thing but be unsuccessful at it if the other team doesn't do what they should.
no they know, they just don't know when to take them. a lot of times people take camps as soon as a camp obj is over so as to stop the other team stealing them. after obj is basically the camp stage at low ranks.
@@kingmidas430 depends on level if I recall, also, it's not just a matter of XP, waves control vision, idle time to take camps, etc, waves are the core dynamic of the game, if you lost and you had control of all the lanes, then you've done a critical mistake in order to achieve that.
@@idanbotbol at lvl1 a single wave is slightly more than a kill from memory. As the game goes on that ratio gets worse.(edit: worse as in kills get way more important, obviously)
My mechanics are pretty decent in my elo (gold 1) I regularly dodge skillshots,do my stutter stepping and body blocks properly. My biggest issue is that I have an awareness of a potato. When playing tank, I often initiate on out of position people,leave my backline open and let it be shredded or if I peel I have no idea what divers are doing. I'm rarely able to glance at minimap when doing something micro intensive and as an assassin I go after low health people ignoring my surroundings. Basically: tunnel vision is my worst enemy in this game. My sort of wake up call was when I played team league with a diamond Leoric as my favorite healer:Uther. Stukov basically threw his silence and I wanted to stun him no matter what. Meanwhile while forcing my way towards Stukov,Leoric was getting shredded and I got cocooned when he was about to die. So I ended up cocooned,all abilities off cooldown and Leoric rightfully complaining about lack of support.
Thats something common, and you dont have to feel you are a bad player, just think you are taking bad calls because your lack of awareness. A hero could help you a lot to improve in this situation is abathur, like you are safe, so, what do i do? watch minimap, put some W to give vision, Q a hero then heal them, top is empty, so you can bodysoak top, Z to top, W to have vision of no one ganking top, Q to my ally, some heals, oh! tracer is going down! W and Q while hat, easy kill. And then keep it up all game. I love E build for Abathur, and then after clone, all push talents. You can heal your allies, get exp, even do a lot of damage while hat, and practicing your map awareness without feeling you will die sooner or later. When you feel comfortable, you can bodysoak agressive, but just in a safe spot, will be enough for practice. I do think the better situation to practice with aba E build is QM, as random heroes will pop up, but almost never a better healer with your E than you. Remember after 4, your E heal them while shield is active, so if you shield them, then you remove your Q to get Hats cds more rapidly, they still recieve heals, so spread as many E on yout allies as you can. Care, will be a insane macro for the first time, then you iwill get practice and you will do it easier.
@@fiorilli1 Thanks for the tip. Oddly enough I'm actually a decent Abathur. I usually passively push a lane, soak as much as I can both with body and symbiote and help people in trouble. I rarely get caught off guard,because I put mines on places that players need to get to me. Vikings are ten times more challenging for me. I often focus on one thing with one and then I have next to no idea what other Vikings are doing. Sometimes I even lose them to tower shots.
@@fisyr Check the life bars, each viking has one. It would be good for you to play both Abathur and Vikings, because that is probably the best way to raise your awareness levels.
This video really needs to mention Falstad. Falstad has everything needed to carry games. Decent waveclear, good damage in team fights, a good escape ability, instant camps (bribe lvl 1), and a freaking global. He always gets extra soak when an objective spawns because he can fly rather than walk, quickly bribe a camp just before the obj as well. Just a powerhouse overall.
@@Calx9 4 stacks is a bit ambitious yes, but 2 is perfectly managable. either take the siege camp or bribe 2 from the bruiser camp and clear what's left. should not be a problem since your flight will make up for any time lost
Since you say camps are so important could you do a video about them? When and how to take camps on specific heroes and maps? Especially the timing is difficult to memorize (can't find good spreadsheets). Why is it recommended for example on certain maps to take camps anytime and all the time and for other maps to take them at a specific moment? Also, you can have a good global pressure but if you lose all the teamfights it is going to be difficult to win the game. Is there any good advice about teamfights? Sometimes you just cannot win a teamfight even though your composition looks fine, the talents look fine, the stats look fine. Is there any general advice about teamfights? Hope you can make a video about camps and/or teamfights. Thx for the good content!
As the other guy basically said, on maps where you all fight over a single objective taking a camp on the opposite side of the map just before it spawns, means they either have to send someone to deal with it so it's a 4v5 for the objective or they allow the camp to push and you get some tower exp from it. The reason you don't do that on all maps are things like if the objective is still very close to the lane (dragonshire, Braxis) where they can easily protect the objective while also dealing with the camp, on those kind of maps I'd say it's better to get camps after killing your lane opponent. There's also collection-based objective maps (tomb of the spider queen, blackheart's bay) where there's no set time for the objective, it's just when you collect enough of the thing to hand in there you could use the camp as a distraction so you can hand in easier. As for your teamfight question, I think the golden rule for teamfighting is generally, though especially if you're on the back foot; avoid team fights at all costs unless you have a talent advantage (i.e they are level 12 and you just hit level 13). If you're still constantly losing teamfights then try and figure out the strength of your team and the weakness of theirs, like maybe they have a stronger healer but they will run out of mana quicker, so try to extend the fight until their healer is out of mana then strike. Or they have a lot of good engagement tools (like Garrosh throw) so try to bait that out on a tanky ally or one with an easy escape, then you engage them while it's on cooldown. Or you could always have your team hide in some bushes along a path to a lane and try and catch one of the enemies on their own. etc.
Your deep dive on individual heroes are amazing. Keep up the good work on this channel. People who are silver rank like me get a lot out of your videos.
Cool, man. Watching your videos makes me feel like I can climb the ranks. Thanks for the tips! Good to hear a coach who can specify the differences between low- and high-rank play.
I don't really watch your videos to be "entertained", I watch them because of the high value information content that they provide. I'd say seeing your face or not doesn't change anything for me. thanks for your effort to educate us.
It makes me feel better actually. Everytime on reddit you see someone say thats how they climbed to Masters using only Probius meanwhile I think he's garbage.
@@Calx9 Once some guy was being a troll and banned the hero I wanted to last pick, like seriously dude, dick move! Wasn't an OP or first pick, and the enemy already had most of their team lined up, guy just wanted to be a dick about it. Well I just let the auto pick go for me to teach him a lesson, and I got Probius, lol! Funny enough though I played well that game and we ended up winning anyway. It wasn't ranked though, just unranked, so I didn't feel the need to do anything to avert disaster that game.
Web cam is fine I'd say keep it. Thanks for this I'm stuck in silver so this is useful. For me I've found guldan to be the most effective he is very consistent in damage the only trouble I have is identifying the best time to horrify. Lately I have been using Johanna as well as not that many like to heal or tank. The amount of missed camps and waves in silver is no joke. I tell people when to get a camp or help with one and no one comes and does it. I tell people when I'm playing Deckard that I'll cover their lane if they need to back and they never ping, it's frustrating to see simple macro mistakes. Ranked is not a 1 lane brawl. I may have to try Jania and Ragnaros and see how I do.
One easy trick to climb is to cover other's mistakes. There is always that one guy that pushes too far and dies before a big fight, but you could stick with him and help out. My point being, the worse play but with full team is better than the best play with 3 or 4 people.
@@SolusBatty That's why I've tried my hand at Johanna so when the team positions poorly or takes a fight they shouldn't sometimes I can save them from their poor decisions. I tried some Jaina and Rag in unranked last night with decent results. I think I'd stick with water elemental as it was easy to sick him on the back line or divers and disrupt them. also the CD is so short I could even use it on a bruiser camp to speed it up if I was only 50% health and wanted to get it before backing. Rag on large maps seemed to be very effective as he provided a great deal of exp with lava wave.
My team fighting mid for eternity instead of clearing waves is my biggest frustration in these ranks. I do play a lot of johanna to make up for this but it's often not enough.
I assume telling people isnt helping either? I had huge succes as arthas (D/Q build) with this, a decent self heal, good gank potention and waveclear. Otherwise what Pharadox said, stitches slam build
@@Harbyz I don't use voice so use chat or pings. Usually it doesn't help (no response). Maybe I should use a mic but I'm pretty uncomfortable using voice. Johanna is just as great to clear waves as stitches as this video explains. But when your team is acting like only mid exists, on a three lane map it doesn't allow me to split soak and compensate for my teams tunnel vision. Same thing with draft, usually no one talks when I utter concern about our draft lacking waveclear. Then when the game progresses and we can't teamfight because we are two levels down (because of not clearing waves) they start talking in chat about this comp being bad etc.
@@anonymous-rj6ok these things still happens in diamond but less. But everyone picks their hero because they want to be the hotshot. Its not always working but i usually try to reason. I look at what they usually play. And say Maybe not fenix because the varian. (Try to use logic) Or can you pick a follow up to my gareosh And as a main tank most important. We are really squichy can we get more cc or a offtank?
I think in that kind of situation you really have to straight up tell people what they're supposed to be doing. A quick ping or "jaina can you soak top?" will usually get them to do something different. Just realize that they're not actively trying to play badly, they likely just don't know what they're supposed to be doing at that moment, so a little bit of guidance can be really helpful.
This video has helped me so much (same with the impact video and a lot of your other bits of advice). I'm winning so many more hero league games now! Thanks a lot
its because in low ranks they are so devastating, everyone is trying to stack together for teamwork + synergy and they get huge stacks and do mega damage VS that and people are too new to adjust at that point. as you get past gold you will see azmo and kt get banned less.
Dash Artanis deletes waves. If using the semi tank build yu transition very well to late game with triple blades and the talent which reduces shield CD on ability cast.
I'm having an hard time climbing, I'm stuck at Platinum 4 but I think that I should be higher. All this kind of videos helps me a lot, I'll try to focus more on waves and camps, as overall I see that people prefer to fight mid. Great work as usual, for this kind of video the camera on is a must. Ciao ;)
Very good vid, but think those heroes have a lot of "intricacies" and ways about how people would either misunderstanding your point/s or misunderstand that some of those heroes have HUGE DOWNSIDES that will just make the team lose teamfight more.. And honestly as someone in most of the time "stuck" in low gold know for a fact that Silver rule for winning is = win teamfights after 10 = win game (regardless of rotation) The downsides: Stitches = HAS ONLY ONE VIABLE ULT (seriously stop picking Gorge), ESPECIALLY when opponents have dive.. Climb up at least up to Plat before picking Gorge.. The ULTIMATE lack of peel by going Gorge is an insta-lose and a big no-go Alexstrasza = She's a VERY SKILL DEMANDING support = meaning BOTH her escapes as well as her heals are DELAYED by nature.. Meaning BOTH situations for self-preservation/self-saving as well as teammate saving you have to be quite WATCHFUL and PREDICT the outcome as you cast your abilities/heal.. Rehgar on the other hand is quite safe to play with not a single overly-need-to-care-about downside overall Fenix/Greymane require A LOT OF SKILL to use properly mainly cause they don't self-heal, whilest Cassia for example is much easier to use and much harder to mess up while STILL having the survivability to endure.. Also very good range ADC is Zul'Jin cause even when your team isn't quite there to impact you have your Taz'Dingo to make sure that you don't die before you do all you can before heal or tank comes along.. No other range ADC can do that and are very punishable.. Fenix has that sort-of self-regen but his RANGE on auto-attacks are Tychus-like = meaning hard to use THE UPSIDES that may have been forgotten: Jaina and KT aren't just best cause easy-to-use or do camps/waves easy BUT because of the 24-7 active CC/peel ability.. Jaina slows and KT grav are a good way to make sure someone doesn't die on your team whilest doing a burst over a diver, Gul'Dan and/or Nazeebo DO NOT have those, and YET people pick them 24/7 for some strange reason, thank you very much so Hammer ? = hell no, 80% of people pick a backliner anyway and if you pick that thing is most likely an autoloss, just adding the insult to an injury where you get "outendured" in a direct fight AAND be late on rotations to objectives and so on.. You'll also be most-likely dependant on your teammate-performance for being properly Zoned for BOTH = "picking the right fights" as well as "doing them near a good "impact zone" of your siege potential Huge NO about Hammer.. => Basically the "rule of thumb" to "get loose from being stuck" is = pick heroes that HELP your TEAM be better (NOT the other way round, i.e. NOT pick those heroes that make/force the team "babysit" you).. That's why Illidan is no good (unless vs specific mage comps) and by that rule alone along with some other problems that may/not occur => Hammer is a huge NO Thx for the video, very informative but kinda liked to put my own opinion/experience and relate-to what is said in the video as a "gold but still a bit stuck lower" type of player with over IDK 5k games by now :P Previous video made me undomfortable with the web-cam ON but not sure out of which reason didn't bother me much at this one though GL HF all :)
Face cam was great for this vid because there was a fair amount of time that would've been spent on a unchanging screen otherwise. I don't think it will matter either way for gameplay videos, but for these I definitely like it!
My impression of the 1st video you made with webcam was that it would be distracting,however i think i got a bit used to it now, and watching you on the webcam felt very natural and pleasant.
As far as specialists go, before Xul was used as a main tank like he is now he was the god of double soaking. So if you want to recommend a specialist to that list than Xul will probably be the best option. He can also clear camps decently well.
@@swadams2 Agreed but when not used as a main tank you don't necessarily go with the Cursed Strike build every time. You can still go with the main tank build even if you aren't the main tank but you also have other options like the Scythe build for more poke and safety.
I'd suggest to add Falstad, Lunara and Thrall. Falstad is one of the easiest caster to play, he can bribe mercs, and even though he has not a great waveclear, he can use his abilities to clean a wave, recall and immediately be back to soak an other lane. Lunara has a good waveclear for a dps, she has a great siege/duo soak potential and can get siege camps easily. Thrall is a good substitute for greymane for beginners imho thanks to his better mana/hp management, he can get camps and duo soak after lv 4 if needed.
My main healer is Kharazim. He can clear camps alone, a bit slow before the level 1 quest is done, but once you get that cd reduction you can spam abilities to clear them pretty fast
I'm experiencing another behavior about communication in lower games. If I tell people "I'm going to do our siegecamp at 1:30, can you please cover my lane for a short time so we wont lose xp?", they will ignore it. I'm pinging "omw to camp" in time, so ppl know I want to do the camp and have actually time to stop whatever they are doing and get on my lane. I can mark the days when somebody acutally comes to my lane and there wouldnt be many marked days in my callender. That's because the midbrawl is more important to them. If somebody does come to my lane and soaks and ppl in the other lanes play a little more carefull and don't die, I know we will win this game. I'm then matched with above avarage players and we usually stomp the other team. You can tell that by minute 2.
I mean I know to clear waves but that example really cleared it up for me, the level you should be by the third objective on volskya, I thought 16, but have been watching htc and I realized there 20 most of the time and that's a HUGE difference. Also forgot that camps give xp, that's an important detail.
Starting to climb now. Especially after I started maining tanks, that upped my team fighting a lot which lacked for me. Reghar also seems like a good hero to climb with, with so much utility, camp/ waveclear ability and surprising good one on one capabilities. Finally climbed my eternal silver account both team and hero league into gold now.
Another great video man, thank you. I think for non-gameplay videos, face cam is a must. Or at least better than without. gameplay videos, dont mind so much because you're teaching and showing us stuff so attention wise we'd be focusing on that.
Cameras good, on this video it was necessary even or Id only be half listening while surfing in another tab. Do make/buy a green screen though, that way you can make yourself fit nicely over the character portrait while in game (see pallytimes setup for instance).
I double soak Alex when I just can’t heal some teams fast enough and they just won’t soak. I mean you can’t help people that run from you right into a tower (again). I always get blamed for people dying while getting MVP, and a tone more healing done than I should have. Still, I drop a healing circle and people don’t even get in it lol. What I like about Alex is if you can get close enough, safely, she has enough range to hit towers without getting hit herself. She can do a good bit of poke that way, so if you’re close enough it’s worth a few shots. Though I still think carry can be hard with Alex if your team can’t help you back. You can’t win with soak alone, sometimes you gota help them use it. I have had a lot more luck with Dehaka for the simple fact he can selfheal a tone if built right, and most likely wave clear better. Tho I find in team fights I have to walk Dehaka into almost all the incoming damage to prevent my team from getting hit by it since they won’t heal or manage to avoid it. While trying to Q whoever needs to be ‘controlled’. It’s frustrating that I have to play him so brainlessly since I know much of this damage should be avoidable. But the teams I’m getting are below my skill level, my QM games are considerably harder lol, so I can really abuse Dehaka. But these are not good players I’m talking about, I don’t think Alex should get highest damage for example. Games I win (not out of the random luck of what team feel like being more stupid today) are game where there is another person on team willing to follow me or who has enough idea about what needs to be done. If one person dose or tells people something nothing tends to happen, when 2 people do it they seem to follow the flock. It’s an interesting observation. I suspect I am around silver/gold but the games im getting are so mind blowing currently. Tonight I had 4 in a row with AFKers and my placement matches? I had 6 games with 2 or more AFKers in! That was not a fun moment. Lol. I think moving up the ranks is harder the lower rank you are since your closer to your skill level. Sure master players can clear bronze in a few games with 90% win rate, but move up to diamond that win rate drops from what I remember in previous videos. So anyone that isn’t masters (yet) shouldn’t be fooled into thinking lower ranks are easy to break out of. I found in QM games that once you drop below 2000MMR on hotslogs its harder to progress than when your over 2000MMR, I suspect it’s something to do with the level of support your team will give back to you. Bronze you don’t often get any after helping someone out. Go up the ranks and then it’s a valid play to put the squishy healer at risk to save someone, since once they have some healing on them they can turn the tables back on who was attaching them (and thus saving the healer in return).
Great video! Would recommend adding time stamps in the description. Also how about a 'short' follow-up video with some talent builds for the mentioned heroes. I'd also like to suggest making different playlists on your channel so people can easily track different guides. You'd might want to revise some after a while due to changes and it makes it easier for you too. Small note, I'd love if you'd move the camera a bit so you're more in the center of the camera screen. Perhaps use the center of the frame of the painting behind you as a background.
but one unaddressed issue is that players that have gone Bronze to Master ALL come from Master originally. It's like saying.. "hey watch these NFL players dominant at the college level". Players at the college level have never seen the speed and competitiveness at the pro level. They would have to learn by being there and experiencing it: failing and learning over and over. Not all of a sudden being experienced - it doesn't work like that. Why it's hard to climb is because as you progress, things change and go beyond what you are used to seeing - so you have to "learn the new meta". i.e. face checking bushes in Silver is nothing whereas at higher levels: beware! by the time a new player really learns this they've lost all the games where people punish you for that (facechecking bushes as an assassin). Then you don't see it again until you go on a win run, then lose again. So you never see it that consistently. It's a serious grind for players that have never played at a higher level.
Some advice regarding the webcam, I'm not sure how it's achieved exactly but I've seen streamers put their camera in the hero's portrait in-game. I feel like this is the least intrusive way to do it as you're just replacing the hero's portrait with yours.
For me best is butcher (doing same thing you did in video with sonya, but sonya just doesnt fit me), because I am Master in HL, in TL(solo) went through bronze to platinum, tanks in low ranks tend to stand next to me, and even when they tried to counter me I just wait for blinds to be on CD (they use it when tanks engage), plus its easy to gank and finish quest early which also helps clear camps,waves quickly, i ussually end up doing cca 850dmg per aa at 20. Another ones that are easy for me to carry games in low ranks are zagara, gazlowe, morales, genji and abathur. Also had a lot of fun with murky in bronze.
Can you clear wave one lane - get camp - clear wave second lane - get camp - clear wave first lane... I guess what I am asking is can you double-soak and get camps, is there enough time? (Not on large two lane maps like Braxis but on smaller three lane maps?)
i'm not exactly against the webcam but it seems like most of the time it just takes up space in the corner and doesn't add a whole lot to the video, i'm sure there are situations where it adds something but it seems like sparing use would make more sense
The problem I’m having is my teammates all have quick match syndrome. All they want to do is chase and fight when they don’t need to, either totally ignoring objectives or staying to fight after the objective is over with, for example at Cursed Hollow. There’s no point in fighting after it is gone, you should leave and go back to soaking lanes, but everyone keeps staying and fighting when they don’t need to. If I leave them to go do so, they are now down a man and will probably all die. If I ping to retreat constantly, nobody listens. If I do my job taking camps and double soaking, I generally get yelled at for “not helping us” or “being useless.” Even though I am being impactful, multiple people will stop doing their job to type constantly and then they get themselves killed. This just ends up starting the toxic train derailing and everyone loses morale and we lose the game.
I't s nice to see a face behind the voice that taught me so much. I have a question though. I am in silver and often as GM I try to soak and do camps as much as I can but then I miss the skirmishes over nothing which usually occur in my ranks. All the exp I'm soaking my team often loses by going 3 vs 5 4vs 5 and then they blame me that I have low hero dmg. Nobody cares that I am top siege dmg and exp contributed. How to deal with ppl who fight over nothing for the sake of fighting.
I like the camera on for vids like this! when you are just talking through points and not showing game footage. Also, what do you think about thrall? I have had a lot of success climbing with him. his wave clear is week early on, but great wave clear.
Can you make a video/play a game using Gazlowe to demonstrate his impactfulness? I love Gazlowe and i think i play him well but would love to see a pro demonstrate.
Thank you very muchas I rly remember my first hero buy it Whit gold (azmo) and in that time the q need it justo Minion kill's. So much i have to re-learn
Hey NotParadox! Its nice to see the face behind the voice. For this type of video its perfect. I would suggest not to use the webcam for gameplay analyses. because maybe it covers some important elemtens and could be too distracting. But again: in this video, nice touch ^_^
I usually go mephisto nowadays and carry lol but I make people do camps that can most I'm stuck in silver but i started playing with friends that know what they are doing so yea nice vid keep them up
As another commenter also said, at low ranks, other people will always engage in teamfights no matter the situation, so will fight mid 4v5 if you're soaking exp somewhere. Communication doesn't help since generally everyone ignores it. So then would you still recommend this approach? What works better for such games?
I get idiot teams that have a go at me saying i'm not being a team player when farming XP. I join in the fights as well. I'm playing exactly like you say so i feel better about myself now for sure.
will there also be a video on how to clim in high ranks? im dia 2, managed to get to dia 1 but i keep loosing to often to climb efficiently. i dont rly think that champs matter that much and i think i will still prefer what im comfortable with but would like to know your ideas :)
On low tiers Alexstrasza/deckard as a healer (forcing people into the right position) Dps Genji , jaina, kerrigan, alarak Tank: etc garrosh arthas stitches [Not diablo :( ]
Been rank 10 for pre season, suffered from a 17 straight losing streak. Stuck into silver for almost a year. Now, this season I'm trying to climb up to Platinum. Currently sitting at Gold 3 to 2, with a 60 to 62% WR. Just keeps getting demoted. xD Well, what helped me a lot to climb is Thrall. Man, that guy carries too much games. Other heroes that really helped me get out of Silver is ETC & Sonya. Now I'm Gold stuck xD Been trying to Climb to Plat! How I wish I could get to plat before this season ends xD
I don't know if I would try climbing with healers. Usually if you have to "carry", you won't be able to drive much in a team fight from the healer spot. You're just kind of there and your job is too passive.
Thurgor Supreme totally agree man. You just can’t heal from a support spot. Your healing won’t make much difference if your dps is always out of position and gets bursted.
Supports in this game aren't just healbots. As NotParadox said the macro pressure Rehgar can put out is a huge boon, and in terms of team fights some of the supports can be serious playmakers (looking at you, Deckard Cain).
@@arachnofiend2859 Well yeah, Rehgar is an exception, but that's about it. Carrying with a bruiser and/or a lane pusher is much easier than trying to sew together a bunch of idiots into a successful team fight.
I am Bronze 5, trying to get out of it asap. I do my camps and soak lane, try to bring the most impact. I seem to do well, but my team mates are trash around half the time. I just had 5 games today, 2 wins and 3 loses. 1st loss: I choose varian first, the other 4 people choose squishes and we have no heals. 2nd loss: we have a feeder, he went 0-21 as alarak 3rd loss: great lineups, we just lost by being worse. The thing is, our wins were because the opposite team did the same as my 1st and 3rd loss. How can people get out of the shit pit when, 99% of the time, it's your team mates that are the problem? This is my frist Bronze, usually I get placement in Gold 1-3 and stay there.
Face reveal! I was still hoping you were Kripparian, like your tone of voice is very similar, XD. Im in placements games with my smurf acc, not ranks like when li ming came out, and i used Maiev with nor super results, but, when i pick thrall to solo lane, won every match, even when your tank want to pick at last sec sonya. For ex, with thrall i end Q quest at lvl 5 in good matchups, sometimes at lvl 8 if there are 2 ppl in my lane. Always chill, not going ham, just soaking and doing quest, then earthquake and GG. Like ppl in low rank dont sidestep Kael Q, earthquake slow make my bad teammates to land every single skillshot, i use it like "guys, they all are slowed, go for them". Also, as Thrall has a huge ways to sustain himself, your healer can heal another one, like healers used to heal nearby heroes from backline more than their melees or tanks. Almost finish my placements with my second acc, but heroes with self sustain could be key, as in a game i literally was 10 secs as maiev with only 20% of my health and my supp never heal me, it was insane. Also, as thrall you help your tank to initiations, like sometimes your Muradin miss every single Q, so a good W of thrall from a bush could be key to get picks. Another thing, i feel like your team miss lot of damage, they dont blow anything, so have a hero that can secure a pick, as kerrigan combo, or something like that, could be very good.
Thank you for the great information. Do you think Stitches is a map specific tank? I was playing on Towers of Doom and a couple friends suggested that Stitches isn't good on this map. I do agree certain heroes are better/stronger on some maps vs others. But I have a stronger opinion that you should play what your best and most comfortable at (sure there are circumstances where the opposing team's draft isn't optimal for my pick). Thoughts?
With this video being about "wave clear" would you do a video explaining when to group up and fight vs side lane and soak. In plat I still feel like I need to go join more team fights then I personally attend, part of that is due to probius not being a good to arrive late to a team fight champion, part of that is due to macro ignorance.
I like the webcam, I'd say keep it why not! I primarily play Alex/Ana/Jaina/Johanna but what about Sylvanas? Isn't her specialty kinda get waves get camps? I wonder why you havent mentioned her. And I wanna thank you for the Q build on Jaina, it helped me so much with the camps. I never tried that before! I ranked up to S2 from S4 lol.
How about Butcher with chop meat as his first level talent? He clears lane real fast with hamstring and can do camps quickly, especially after finishing quest.
I do not get your example with early camps. A person laning there will simply kill that camp and/or their camp will come later and will outpush seriously your camp. Camps are about who is getting them the latest without influencing their team fights.
Don't do videos with camera if those vids have ongoing action because it is distracting else you can use them if you want(i am pretty neutral regarding the camera in this vid).
![[HotS] The Ultimate Solo Lane Guide](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YCQagtH3JpI/mqdefault.jpg)
Summary
Healer:
Alexstrasza
Rehgar
Melee assassin:
Greymane
Ranged assassins:
Phoenix
Jaina
Kael'thas
Azmodan
Tank:
Johanna
Stitches
Bruiser:
Sonya
Malthael
Ragnaros
You da real mvp
My personal experience playing with less experienced players:
Getting that camp/that lane xp is indeed important but at lower levels people don't know how to time camps to get that rotational advantage and the rest of the team is often so trigger happy that even though you'll get more lane xp, your team is very likely to lose a lot of xp in lost teamfights at the same time giving the team that is not soaking optimally in lanes the advantage as after they win that teamfight they can also get forts and then also some camps.
So although I agree soaking xp and getting those camps at smart moments is amazing, if the rest of your team is suicidal, it still won't get you the advantage.
Sometimes it might be better to do the wrong thing successfully together than the right thing but be unsuccessful at it if the other team doesn't do what they should.
People don’t realize how valuable minion waves are in lower ranks and all they want are hero kills.
Wave clear wins games.
@@NCMonefaith Only if there able to use that experience lead you give them lol!
no they know, they just don't know when to take them. a lot of times people take camps as soon as a camp obj is over so as to stop the other team stealing them. after obj is basically the camp stage at low ranks.
@@kingmidas430 depends on level if I recall, also, it's not just a matter of XP, waves control vision, idle time to take camps, etc, waves are the core dynamic of the game, if you lost and you had control of all the lanes, then you've done a critical mistake in order to achieve that.
@@idanbotbol at lvl1 a single wave is slightly more than a kill from memory. As the game goes on that ratio gets worse.(edit: worse as in kills get way more important, obviously)
Time to climb out of wood tier
B W lol exactly. I'm right there with ya 😉
you and me both
same
Higher than me, I'm in the carbon-12 tier.
Been trying for years. Good to know that you have to be Grand Master to rank up.
Can you do a quick video on why NotParadox doesn't own Probius?
It's about sending a message.
How about for April 1st?
I would also like a probius video
"Why no one, especially pros and NotParadox, plays Probius"
A) he doesn't like the hero B) he barely opens chests
Camera works for a video like this, but ingame I'd rather there not be one. :) Thanks for the tips though. :D
Amazing guide on how to drag a what could've been a 2 min vid into a 20 min video. True master class
My mechanics are pretty decent in my elo (gold 1) I regularly dodge skillshots,do my stutter stepping and body blocks properly. My biggest issue is that I have an awareness of a potato. When playing tank, I often initiate on out of position people,leave my backline open and let it be shredded or if I peel I have no idea what divers are doing. I'm rarely able to glance at minimap when doing something micro intensive and as an assassin I go after low health people ignoring my surroundings. Basically: tunnel vision is my worst enemy in this game. My sort of wake up call was when I played team league with a diamond Leoric as my favorite healer:Uther. Stukov basically threw his silence and I wanted to stun him no matter what. Meanwhile while forcing my way towards Stukov,Leoric was getting shredded and I got cocooned when he was about to die. So I ended up cocooned,all abilities off cooldown and Leoric rightfully complaining about lack of support.
Exactly same situation here!
Like me. And this is why we stay there :D I still like to watch what I could do better.
Thats something common, and you dont have to feel you are a bad player, just think you are taking bad calls because your lack of awareness. A hero could help you a lot to improve in this situation is abathur, like you are safe, so, what do i do? watch minimap, put some W to give vision, Q a hero then heal them, top is empty, so you can bodysoak top, Z to top, W to have vision of no one ganking top, Q to my ally, some heals, oh! tracer is going down! W and Q while hat, easy kill. And then keep it up all game. I love E build for Abathur, and then after clone, all push talents. You can heal your allies, get exp, even do a lot of damage while hat, and practicing your map awareness without feeling you will die sooner or later. When you feel comfortable, you can bodysoak agressive, but just in a safe spot, will be enough for practice. I do think the better situation to practice with aba E build is QM, as random heroes will pop up, but almost never a better healer with your E than you. Remember after 4, your E heal them while shield is active, so if you shield them, then you remove your Q to get Hats cds more rapidly, they still recieve heals, so spread as many E on yout allies as you can. Care, will be a insane macro for the first time, then you iwill get practice and you will do it easier.
@@fiorilli1 Thanks for the tip. Oddly enough I'm actually a decent Abathur. I usually passively push a lane, soak as much as I can both with body and symbiote and help people in trouble. I rarely get caught off guard,because I put mines on places that players need to get to me. Vikings are ten times more challenging for me. I often focus on one thing with one and then I have next to no idea what other Vikings are doing. Sometimes I even lose them to tower shots.
@@fisyr Check the life bars, each viking has one.
It would be good for you to play both Abathur and Vikings, because that is probably the best way to raise your awareness levels.
This video really needs to mention Falstad. Falstad has everything needed to carry games. Decent waveclear, good damage in team fights, a good escape ability, instant camps (bribe lvl 1), and a freaking global. He always gets extra soak when an objective spawns because he can fly rather than walk, quickly bribe a camp just before the obj as well. Just a powerhouse overall.
Bribe takes too long though. 80 minions for 1 bribe is tough and he cant solo hard merc camps earlier.
@@Calx9 4 stacks is a bit ambitious yes, but 2 is perfectly managable. either take the siege camp or bribe 2 from the bruiser camp and clear what's left. should not be a problem since your flight will make up for any time lost
@@dezenaamvergeetiknie true
Just got nerfed. Not "global" anymore.
They Did JUST give his global alot longer times
no longer a disembodied voice!
Since you say camps are so important could you do a video about them? When and how to take camps on specific heroes and maps? Especially the timing is difficult to memorize (can't find good spreadsheets). Why is it recommended for example on certain maps to take camps anytime and all the time and for other maps to take them at a specific moment? Also, you can have a good global pressure but if you lose all the teamfights it is going to be difficult to win the game. Is there any good advice about teamfights? Sometimes you just cannot win a teamfight even though your composition looks fine, the talents look fine, the stats look fine. Is there any general advice about teamfights? Hope you can make a video about camps and/or teamfights. Thx for the good content!
As the other guy basically said, on maps where you all fight over a single objective taking a camp on the opposite side of the map just before it spawns, means they either have to send someone to deal with it so it's a 4v5 for the objective or they allow the camp to push and you get some tower exp from it. The reason you don't do that on all maps are things like if the objective is still very close to the lane (dragonshire, Braxis) where they can easily protect the objective while also dealing with the camp, on those kind of maps I'd say it's better to get camps after killing your lane opponent. There's also collection-based objective maps (tomb of the spider queen, blackheart's bay) where there's no set time for the objective, it's just when you collect enough of the thing to hand in there you could use the camp as a distraction so you can hand in easier.
As for your teamfight question, I think the golden rule for teamfighting is generally, though especially if you're on the back foot; avoid team fights at all costs unless you have a talent advantage (i.e they are level 12 and you just hit level 13). If you're still constantly losing teamfights then try and figure out the strength of your team and the weakness of theirs, like maybe they have a stronger healer but they will run out of mana quicker, so try to extend the fight until their healer is out of mana then strike. Or they have a lot of good engagement tools (like Garrosh throw) so try to bait that out on a tanky ally or one with an easy escape, then you engage them while it's on cooldown. Or you could always have your team hide in some bushes along a path to a lane and try and catch one of the enemies on their own. etc.
I get camps and dual soak all the time with Fenix and my winrate is really good with him. Thanks NotParadox! I made it to plat 5!
almost sounds like low ranks know that bruiser camps give Spell Armor
can we just have a petition to get him to purchase Probius?
Your deep dive on individual heroes are amazing. Keep up the good work on this channel. People who are silver rank like me get a lot out of your videos.
Cool, man. Watching your videos makes me feel like I can climb the ranks. Thanks for the tips! Good to hear a coach who can specify the differences between low- and high-rank play.
I don't really watch your videos to be "entertained", I watch them because of the high value information content that they provide. I'd say seeing your face or not doesn't change anything for me.
thanks for your effort to educate us.
it somehow annoys me that you own all heroes but probius
Marcel Schwarz thanks, now I'll never unsee it. I hate you.
It makes me feel better actually. Everytime on reddit you see someone say thats how they climbed to Masters using only Probius meanwhile I think he's garbage.
A completionist's nightmare, lol!
@@Calx9 Once some guy was being a troll and banned the hero I wanted to last pick, like seriously dude, dick move! Wasn't an OP or first pick, and the enemy already had most of their team lined up, guy just wanted to be a dick about it. Well I just let the auto pick go for me to teach him a lesson, and I got Probius, lol! Funny enough though I played well that game and we ended up winning anyway. It wasn't ranked though, just unranked, so I didn't feel the need to do anything to avert disaster that game.
@@andmicbro1 Justice Served, get carried by an even worse hero lol
Web cam is fine I'd say keep it. Thanks for this I'm stuck in silver so this is useful. For me I've found guldan to be the most effective he is very consistent in damage the only trouble I have is identifying the best time to horrify. Lately I have been using Johanna as well as not that many like to heal or tank. The amount of missed camps and waves in silver is no joke. I tell people when to get a camp or help with one and no one comes and does it. I tell people when I'm playing Deckard that I'll cover their lane if they need to back and they never ping, it's frustrating to see simple macro mistakes. Ranked is not a 1 lane brawl.
I may have to try Jania and Ragnaros and see how I do.
One easy trick to climb is to cover other's mistakes. There is always that one guy that pushes too far and dies before a big fight, but you could stick with him and help out. My point being, the worse play but with full team is better than the best play with 3 or 4 people.
Also Jaina can solo any camp. So if you want to see those camps taken you can play her. Paradox has a great video how to do it properly.
@@SolusBatty link? Or name vid?
@@griff3n69 I think its the one called 4 common mistakes when playing jaina or something like that.
@@SolusBatty That's why I've tried my hand at Johanna so when the team positions poorly or takes a fight they shouldn't sometimes I can save them from their poor decisions. I tried some Jaina and Rag in unranked last night with decent results. I think I'd stick with water elemental as it was easy to sick him on the back line or divers and disrupt them. also the CD is so short I could even use it on a bruiser camp to speed it up if I was only 50% health and wanted to get it before backing. Rag on large maps seemed to be very effective as he provided a great deal of exp with lava wave.
Can you make a newer version of this about the new stormleague pls? : )
My team fighting mid for eternity instead of clearing waves is my biggest frustration in these ranks. I do play a lot of johanna to make up for this but it's often not enough.
I assume telling people isnt helping either?
I had huge succes as arthas (D/Q build) with this, a decent self heal, good gank potention and waveclear. Otherwise what Pharadox said, stitches slam build
@@Harbyz I don't use voice so use chat or pings. Usually it doesn't help (no response). Maybe I should use a mic but I'm pretty uncomfortable using voice. Johanna is just as great to clear waves as stitches as this video explains. But when your team is acting like only mid exists, on a three lane map it doesn't allow me to split soak and compensate for my teams tunnel vision. Same thing with draft, usually no one talks when I utter concern about our draft lacking waveclear. Then when the game progresses and we can't teamfight because we are two levels down (because of not clearing waves) they start talking in chat about this comp being bad etc.
Hahaha nooo nobody uses a mic. And if you have someone on teamchat they mic off :D
@@anonymous-rj6ok these things still happens in diamond but less.
But everyone picks their hero because they want to be the hotshot.
Its not always working but i usually try to reason.
I look at what they usually play. And say
Maybe not fenix because the varian. (Try to use logic)
Or can you pick a follow up to my gareosh
And as a main tank most important. We are really squichy can we get more cc or a offtank?
I think in that kind of situation you really have to straight up tell people what they're supposed to be doing. A quick ping or "jaina can you soak top?" will usually get them to do something different. Just realize that they're not actively trying to play badly, they likely just don't know what they're supposed to be doing at that moment, so a little bit of guidance can be really helpful.
This video has helped me so much (same with the impact video and a lot of your other bits of advice). I'm winning so many more hero league games now! Thanks a lot
You forgot to mention that Azmo and KT are perma-banned, and to not bother learning them
Azmodans nipple rings too OP
its because in low ranks they are so devastating, everyone is trying to stack together for teamwork + synergy and they get huge stacks and do mega damage VS that and people are too new to adjust at that point. as you get past gold you will see azmo and kt get banned less.
Butcher is OP at low ranks. He can very easy carry game.
Burcher have good wave clear with talent at 1lvl. He can do solo boss when he stacked etc
@aknoob100 there are no good Players Lili at bronze and Silver 😂 you must pick butcher at last pick when enemy dont have so much blinds and stuns
Dash Artanis deletes waves.
If using the semi tank build yu transition very well to late game with triple blades and the talent which reduces shield CD on ability cast.
I'm having an hard time climbing, I'm stuck at Platinum 4 but I think that I should be higher. All this kind of videos helps me a lot, I'll try to focus more on waves and camps, as overall I see that people prefer to fight mid. Great work as usual, for this kind of video the camera on is a must. Ciao ;)
I love when we have someone in every lane so I go to get a camp, then everyone leaves their lanes to come "help"...
Very good vid, but think those heroes have a lot of "intricacies" and ways about how people would either misunderstanding your point/s or misunderstand that some of those heroes have HUGE DOWNSIDES that will just make the team lose teamfight more.. And honestly as someone in most of the time "stuck" in low gold know for a fact that Silver rule for winning is = win teamfights after 10 = win game (regardless of rotation)
The downsides:
Stitches = HAS ONLY ONE VIABLE ULT (seriously stop picking Gorge), ESPECIALLY when opponents have dive.. Climb up at least up to Plat before picking Gorge.. The ULTIMATE lack of peel by going Gorge is an insta-lose and a big no-go
Alexstrasza = She's a VERY SKILL DEMANDING support = meaning BOTH her escapes as well as her heals are DELAYED by nature.. Meaning BOTH situations for self-preservation/self-saving as well as teammate saving you have to be quite WATCHFUL and PREDICT the outcome as you cast your abilities/heal.. Rehgar on the other hand is quite safe to play with not a single overly-need-to-care-about downside overall
Fenix/Greymane require A LOT OF SKILL to use properly mainly cause they don't self-heal, whilest Cassia for example is much easier to use and much harder to mess up while STILL having the survivability to endure.. Also very good range ADC is Zul'Jin cause even when your team isn't quite there to impact you have your Taz'Dingo to make sure that you don't die before you do all you can before heal or tank comes along.. No other range ADC can do that and are very punishable.. Fenix has that sort-of self-regen but his RANGE on auto-attacks are Tychus-like = meaning hard to use
THE UPSIDES that may have been forgotten:
Jaina and KT aren't just best cause easy-to-use or do camps/waves easy BUT because of the 24-7 active CC/peel ability.. Jaina slows and KT grav are a good way to make sure someone doesn't die on your team whilest doing a burst over a diver, Gul'Dan and/or Nazeebo DO NOT have those, and YET people pick them 24/7 for some strange reason, thank you very much so
Hammer ? = hell no, 80% of people pick a backliner anyway and if you pick that thing is most likely an autoloss, just adding the insult to an injury where you get "outendured" in a direct fight AAND be late on rotations to objectives and so on.. You'll also be most-likely dependant on your teammate-performance for being properly Zoned for BOTH = "picking the right fights" as well as "doing them near a good "impact zone" of your siege potential
Huge NO about Hammer.. => Basically the "rule of thumb" to "get loose from being stuck" is = pick heroes that HELP your TEAM be better (NOT the other way round, i.e. NOT pick those heroes that make/force the team "babysit" you).. That's why Illidan is no good (unless vs specific mage comps) and by that rule alone along with some other problems that may/not occur => Hammer is a huge NO
Thx for the video, very informative but kinda liked to put my own opinion/experience and relate-to what is said in the video as a "gold but still a bit stuck lower" type of player with over IDK 5k games by now :P
Previous video made me undomfortable with the web-cam ON but not sure out of which reason didn't bother me much at this one though
GL HF all :)
Face cam was great for this vid because there was a fair amount of time that would've been spent on a unchanging screen otherwise. I don't think it will matter either way for gameplay videos, but for these I definitely like it!
Summary: wave clear & camps
Tank: Johanna, Stitches
Solo Laner: Sonya, Malthael, Ragnaros, Blaze, Dehaka
Healer: Alexstrasza, Rehgar, (Brightwing: Bribe)
Ranged assassins: Jaina, Kael'thas, Phoenix, Greymane, Guldan, Azmodan
My impression of the 1st video you made with webcam was that it would be distracting,however i think i got a bit used to it now, and watching you on the webcam felt very natural and pleasant.
As far as specialists go, before Xul was used as a main tank like he is now he was the god of double soaking. So if you want to recommend a specialist to that list than Xul will probably be the best option. He can also clear camps decently well.
He can clear camps very well with a cursed strike build.
@@swadams2 Agreed but when not used as a main tank you don't necessarily go with the Cursed Strike build every time. You can still go with the main tank build even if you aren't the main tank but you also have other options like the Scythe build for more poke and safety.
I'd suggest to add Falstad, Lunara and Thrall. Falstad is one of the easiest caster to play, he can bribe mercs, and even though he has not a great waveclear, he can use his abilities to clean a wave, recall and immediately be back to soak an other lane. Lunara has a good waveclear for a dps, she has a great siege/duo soak potential and can get siege camps easily. Thrall is a good substitute for greymane for beginners imho thanks to his better mana/hp management, he can get camps and duo soak after lv 4 if needed.
My main healer is Kharazim. He can clear camps alone, a bit slow before the level 1 quest is done, but once you get that cd reduction you can spam abilities to clear them pretty fast
I like that the webcam is on, you are quite nice. But the comments below are rght, you need to place it really well. Thank you for the video!
I'm experiencing another behavior about communication in lower games. If I tell people "I'm going to do our siegecamp at 1:30, can you please cover my lane for a short time so we wont lose xp?", they will ignore it. I'm pinging "omw to camp" in time, so ppl know I want to do the camp and have actually time to stop whatever they are doing and get on my lane. I can mark the days when somebody acutally comes to my lane and there wouldnt be many marked days in my callender. That's because the midbrawl is more important to them.
If somebody does come to my lane and soaks and ppl in the other lanes play a little more carefull and don't die, I know we will win this game. I'm then matched with above avarage players and we usually stomp the other team. You can tell that by minute 2.
I mean I know to clear waves but that example really cleared it up for me, the level you should be by the third objective on volskya, I thought 16, but have been watching htc and I realized there 20 most of the time and that's a HUGE difference. Also forgot that camps give xp, that's an important detail.
Starting to climb now. Especially after I started maining tanks, that upped my team fighting a lot which lacked for me. Reghar also seems like a good hero to climb with, with so much utility, camp/ waveclear ability and surprising good one on one capabilities. Finally climbed my eternal silver account both team and hero league into gold now.
Another great video man, thank you.
I think for non-gameplay videos, face cam is a must. Or at least better than without. gameplay videos, dont mind so much because you're teaching and showing us stuff so attention wise we'd be focusing on that.
Cameras good, on this video it was necessary even or Id only be half listening while surfing in another tab. Do make/buy a green screen though, that way you can make yourself fit nicely over the character portrait while in game (see pallytimes setup for instance).
I double soak Alex when I just can’t heal some teams fast enough and they just won’t soak. I mean you can’t help people that run from you right into a tower (again). I always get blamed for people dying while getting MVP, and a tone more healing done than I should have. Still, I drop a healing circle and people don’t even get in it lol. What I like about Alex is if you can get close enough, safely, she has enough range to hit towers without getting hit herself. She can do a good bit of poke that way, so if you’re close enough it’s worth a few shots. Though I still think carry can be hard with Alex if your team can’t help you back. You can’t win with soak alone, sometimes you gota help them use it. I have had a lot more luck with Dehaka for the simple fact he can selfheal a tone if built right, and most likely wave clear better. Tho I find in team fights I have to walk Dehaka into almost all the incoming damage to prevent my team from getting hit by it since they won’t heal or manage to avoid it. While trying to Q whoever needs to be ‘controlled’. It’s frustrating that I have to play him so brainlessly since I know much of this damage should be avoidable. But the teams I’m getting are below my skill level, my QM games are considerably harder lol, so I can really abuse Dehaka. But these are not good players I’m talking about, I don’t think Alex should get highest damage for example. Games I win (not out of the random luck of what team feel like being more stupid today) are game where there is another person on team willing to follow me or who has enough idea about what needs to be done. If one person dose or tells people something nothing tends to happen, when 2 people do it they seem to follow the flock. It’s an interesting observation. I suspect I am around silver/gold but the games im getting are so mind blowing currently. Tonight I had 4 in a row with AFKers and my placement matches? I had 6 games with 2 or more AFKers in! That was not a fun moment. Lol. I think moving up the ranks is harder the lower rank you are since your closer to your skill level. Sure master players can clear bronze in a few games with 90% win rate, but move up to diamond that win rate drops from what I remember in previous videos. So anyone that isn’t masters (yet) shouldn’t be fooled into thinking lower ranks are easy to break out of. I found in QM games that once you drop below 2000MMR on hotslogs its harder to progress than when your over 2000MMR, I suspect it’s something to do with the level of support your team will give back to you. Bronze you don’t often get any after helping someone out. Go up the ranks and then it’s a valid play to put the squishy healer at risk to save someone, since once they have some healing on them they can turn the tables back on who was attaching them (and thus saving the healer in return).
Great video! Would recommend adding time stamps in the description.
Also how about a 'short' follow-up video with some talent builds for the mentioned heroes.
I'd also like to suggest making different playlists on your channel so people can easily track different guides. You'd might want to revise some after a while due to changes and it makes it easier for you too.
Small note, I'd love if you'd move the camera a bit so you're more in the center of the camera screen. Perhaps use the center of the frame of the painting behind you as a background.
but one unaddressed issue is that players that have gone Bronze to Master ALL come from Master originally. It's like saying.. "hey watch these NFL players dominant at the college level". Players at the college level have never seen the speed and competitiveness at the pro level. They would have to learn by being there and experiencing it: failing and learning over and over. Not all of a sudden being experienced - it doesn't work like that. Why it's hard to climb is because as you progress, things change and go beyond what you are used to seeing - so you have to "learn the new meta". i.e. face checking bushes in Silver is nothing whereas at higher levels: beware! by the time a new player really learns this they've lost all the games where people punish you for that (facechecking bushes as an assassin). Then you don't see it again until you go on a win run, then lose again. So you never see it that consistently. It's a serious grind for players that have never played at a higher level.
It's funny because I was thinking about exactly this since that video :D I even started playing Sonya!
I love your poster behind you.
Some advice regarding the webcam, I'm not sure how it's achieved exactly but I've seen streamers put their camera in the hero's portrait in-game. I feel like this is the least intrusive way to do it as you're just replacing the hero's portrait with yours.
For me best is butcher (doing same thing you did in video with sonya, but sonya just doesnt fit me), because I am Master in HL, in TL(solo) went through bronze to platinum, tanks in low ranks tend to stand next to me, and even when they tried to counter me I just wait for blinds to be on CD (they use it when tanks engage), plus its easy to gank and finish quest early which also helps clear camps,waves quickly, i ussually end up doing cca 850dmg per aa at 20. Another ones that are easy for me to carry games in low ranks are zagara, gazlowe, morales, genji and abathur.
Also had a lot of fun with murky in bronze.
Around minute 11 you can listen the cool part of the Tower of Doom OST.
Can you clear wave one lane - get camp - clear wave second lane - get camp - clear wave first lane... I guess what I am asking is can you double-soak and get camps, is there enough time? (Not on large two lane maps like Braxis but on smaller three lane maps?)
Love your videos so informative. Also better with the cam on makes it real.
"Murky its ok"
GG to my next games in my smurf bronze 5 XDDD.
Murky is actually great in lower ranks. Everybody flames in draft for troll-picking, and then stfu when murky is mvp :D
For me it had to be rag. You are so adjustable to how the game is going and you should always be giving your team tons of experience!
i'm not exactly against the webcam but it seems like most of the time it just takes up space in the corner and doesn't add a whole lot to the video, i'm sure there are situations where it adds something but it seems like sparing use would make more sense
can you do for example a waveclear, go for 1 giant, go back to clear the next wave and return to finnish the camp?
Keep the cam ;) though maybe position it so that it overlaps things a bit less
The problem I’m having is my teammates all have quick match syndrome. All they want to do is chase and fight when they don’t need to, either totally ignoring objectives or staying to fight after the objective is over with, for example at Cursed Hollow.
There’s no point in fighting after it is gone, you should leave and go back to soaking lanes, but everyone keeps staying and fighting when they don’t need to. If I leave them to go do so, they are now down a man and will probably all die. If I ping to retreat constantly, nobody listens.
If I do my job taking camps and double soaking, I generally get yelled at for “not helping us” or “being useless.” Even though I am being impactful, multiple people will stop doing their job to type constantly and then they get themselves killed. This just ends up starting the toxic train derailing and everyone loses morale and we lose the game.
I't s nice to see a face behind the voice that taught me so much. I have a question though. I am in silver and often as GM I try to soak and do camps as much as I can but then I miss the skirmishes over nothing which usually occur in my ranks. All the exp I'm soaking my team often loses by going 3 vs 5 4vs 5 and then they blame me that I have low hero dmg. Nobody cares that I am top siege dmg and exp contributed. How to deal with ppl who fight over nothing for the sake of fighting.
LMAO "you can push to GM with any hero"
What a slap in the face. Push up with TLV, Paradiks
Great video! I like the webcam when you don’t have gameplay going on, so I’d say yes webcam if you’re feeling it ;).
A bit of webcam is good my fren. Maybe just hide it when the action would benefit from a full screen.
I like the camera on for vids like this! when you are just talking through points and not showing game footage.
Also, what do you think about thrall? I have had a lot of success climbing with him. his wave clear is week early on, but great wave clear.
Love the cam, makes it more personal.
I'm partial to having a green screen, though. The background takes up space.
Blaze has amazing wave clear , take camps and team fight really well .
Thanks man this video will help me a bunch
Can you make a video/play a game using Gazlowe to demonstrate his impactfulness? I love Gazlowe and i think i play him well but would love to see a pro demonstrate.
I recently started doing rank, had to climb out of bronze and not once did the team fight mid all game
Thank you very muchas
I rly remember my first hero buy it Whit gold (azmo) and in that time the q need it justo Minion kill's. So much i have to re-learn
sonya can do both hard and easy camp before 2 min. I have seen noone but me do this, and i think thats why sonya is my highest wi rate
So to get out of Bronze/Silver, you have to be a GM/Master. Good to know...
@veracsthane I've lost every game that I have had with uther and won every game against uther. ..
@veracsthane I don't remember but uther is just not a good healer in comparison to the others
@veracsthane Uther is garbage in low ranks since his mana costs are so high, people are gonna waste the health you give them and then you're OOM.
Awesome vids as always! Very helpful! Keep em coming.. ;)
Hey NotParadox! Its nice to see the face behind the voice. For this type of video its perfect. I would suggest not to use the webcam for gameplay analyses. because maybe it covers some important elemtens and could be too distracting. But again: in this video, nice touch ^_^
I usually go mephisto nowadays and carry lol but I make people do camps that can most I'm stuck in silver but i started playing with friends that know what they are doing so yea nice vid keep them up
As another commenter also said, at low ranks, other people will always engage in teamfights no matter the situation, so will fight mid 4v5 if you're soaking exp somewhere. Communication doesn't help since generally everyone ignores it. So then would you still recommend this approach? What works better for such games?
I get idiot teams that have a go at me saying i'm not being a team player when farming XP. I join in the fights as well. I'm playing exactly like you say so i feel better about myself now for sure.
Clearly this is Nova
Ugh huh , the difference between 16 and 20 is 16 , you should trust this guy , he is great at math
and how we deal with trolls, afk, leavers, rages, toxics and russians?
Mute, leave the heroe at base, x2, mute, mute and mute.
will there also be a video on how to clim in high ranks? im dia 2, managed to get to dia 1 but i keep loosing to often to climb efficiently. i dont rly think that champs matter that much and i think i will still prefer what im comfortable with but would like to know your ideas :)
I would really love to see your reviews from the most important games from blizzcon 2018, if it does not break any copyright of course.
I think the camera works in a video like this. But in a video where we are supposed to watch a game, it would be distracting. :)
On low tiers
Alexstrasza/deckard as a healer (forcing people into the right position)
Dps Genji , jaina, kerrigan, alarak
Tank: etc garrosh arthas stitches [Not diablo :( ]
My personal experience as a silvie who climbed to diamond on solo queue ^
Been rank 10 for pre season, suffered from a 17 straight losing streak. Stuck into silver for almost a year. Now, this season I'm trying to climb up to Platinum. Currently sitting at Gold 3 to 2, with a 60 to 62% WR. Just keeps getting demoted. xD Well, what helped me a lot to climb is Thrall. Man, that guy carries too much games. Other heroes that really helped me get out of Silver is ETC & Sonya. Now I'm Gold stuck xD Been trying to Climb to Plat! How I wish I could get to plat before this season ends xD
i really appreciate the info that you put out, i can see a real improvement in my games. in videos like this keep the webcam, imo. 10x again.
I don't know if I would try climbing with healers. Usually if you have to "carry", you won't be able to drive much in a team fight from the healer spot. You're just kind of there and your job is too passive.
Thurgor Supreme totally agree man. You just can’t heal from a support spot. Your healing won’t make much difference if your dps is always out of position and gets bursted.
Supports in this game aren't just healbots. As NotParadox said the macro pressure Rehgar can put out is a huge boon, and in terms of team fights some of the supports can be serious playmakers (looking at you, Deckard Cain).
@@arachnofiend2859 what's the best ability use to take camps as rehgar? Need a certain build?
@@arachnofiend2859 Well yeah, Rehgar is an exception, but that's about it. Carrying with a bruiser and/or a lane pusher is much easier than trying to sew together a bunch of idiots into a successful team fight.
I enjoy the webcam at start and end of the video.
I am Bronze 5, trying to get out of it asap.
I do my camps and soak lane, try to bring the most impact.
I seem to do well, but my team mates are trash around half the time.
I just had 5 games today, 2 wins and 3 loses.
1st loss: I choose varian first, the other 4 people choose squishes and we have no heals.
2nd loss: we have a feeder, he went 0-21 as alarak
3rd loss: great lineups, we just lost by being worse.
The thing is, our wins were because the opposite team did the same as my 1st and 3rd loss. How can people get out of the shit pit when, 99% of the time, it's your team mates that are the problem? This is my frist Bronze, usually I get placement in Gold 1-3 and stay there.
Face reveal! I was still hoping you were Kripparian, like your tone of voice is very similar, XD. Im in placements games with my smurf acc, not ranks like when li ming came out, and i used Maiev with nor super results, but, when i pick thrall to solo lane, won every match, even when your tank want to pick at last sec sonya. For ex, with thrall i end Q quest at lvl 5 in good matchups, sometimes at lvl 8 if there are 2 ppl in my lane. Always chill, not going ham, just soaking and doing quest, then earthquake and GG. Like ppl in low rank dont sidestep Kael Q, earthquake slow make my bad teammates to land every single skillshot, i use it like "guys, they all are slowed, go for them". Also, as Thrall has a huge ways to sustain himself, your healer can heal another one, like healers used to heal nearby heroes from backline more than their melees or tanks. Almost finish my placements with my second acc, but heroes with self sustain could be key, as in a game i literally was 10 secs as maiev with only 20% of my health and my supp never heal me, it was insane. Also, as thrall you help your tank to initiations, like sometimes your Muradin miss every single Q, so a good W of thrall from a bush could be key to get picks. Another thing, i feel like your team miss lot of damage, they dont blow anything, so have a hero that can secure a pick, as kerrigan combo, or something like that, could be very good.
Thank you for the great information. Do you think Stitches is a map specific tank? I was playing on Towers of Doom and a couple friends suggested that Stitches isn't good on this map. I do agree certain heroes are better/stronger on some maps vs others. But I have a stronger opinion that you should play what your best and most comfortable at (sure there are circumstances where the opposing team's draft isn't optimal for my pick). Thoughts?
Jesus, I played against all gold in placement, went 4-6, got placed in Bronze 5 yesterday. Thanks for the advice.
Amazing video, thanks buddy!
With this video being about "wave clear" would you do a video explaining when to group up and fight vs side lane and soak.
In plat I still feel like I need to go join more team fights then I personally attend, part of that is due to probius not being a good to arrive late to a team fight champion, part of that is due to macro ignorance.
Probius best boy. My favourite hero.
I like the webcam, I'd say keep it why not! I primarily play Alex/Ana/Jaina/Johanna but what about Sylvanas? Isn't her specialty kinda get waves get camps? I wonder why you havent mentioned her. And I wanna thank you for the Q build on Jaina, it helped me so much with the camps. I never tried that before! I ranked up to S2 from S4 lol.
I always prefer a cam, just easier for me to stay concentrated for some reason.
Great to see you again. Leave the camera if you're comfortable.
How about Butcher with chop meat as his first level talent? He clears lane real fast with hamstring and can do camps quickly, especially after finishing quest.
I do not get your example with early camps. A person laning there will simply kill that camp and/or their camp will come later and will outpush seriously your camp. Camps are about who is getting them the latest without influencing their team fights.
Thank you a lot , can you make malganis video ?
yes more videos with webcam plz!
just with a bit smaller window and more portrait shot :)
Don't do videos with camera if those vids have ongoing action because it is distracting else you can use them if you want(i am pretty neutral regarding the camera in this vid).
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Hey can you make a video about dealing with 2 lane maps specifically?