I think there was still some fatigue factor involved. Yasopp could've just been lying like Usopp does or wanted to see some action. The fact that they even brought it up makes me think that too. But then the question would be why are Luffy and Law fine but Kidd isn't?
No. Both Roger and Shanks used the attack to test who they were fighting...The difference is that Oden took it like a chad and Capitain Midd was neg diffed. Don't be surprised if Shanks and Luffy meet and Shanks also uses it to test Luffy. Shanks even says Midd is a big shot and makes sense the attack was a test to see if his growth was equal to his 3 billion bounty. Roger said the attack was to greet and see how strong Oden was I think to Gaban and Rayleigh.
@@nunobettencourt1429 stop the bullshit. Shanks used the attack to end the situation immediately. That was the whole point of oda showing him using Advanced Observation Haki. Showing that if he didn’t end this immediately, his fleet would be wiped out by Kidd. Rodger was just ready to spar with the Whitebeard Pirates.
This chapter was a painful reminder that Haki reigns supreme. I believe Oda had Kaido intentionally say it as a reminder because he would have Shanks making moves after Wano. It shows you that being far to reliant on your devil fruit will get you crushed this far into the Story.
Shanks immediately going in for the kill after seeing the devastation Kid's attack caused just shows he acknowledged it as a threat, and followed his own advice by not making the same mistake as his peers. If Kid's still alive and his haki still doesn't bloom after this defeat, then it really is the end for him.
It wasn’t a threat to his crew😑😑. It was a threat to the weak members of the fleet. Shanks saw a threat to the weaklings who were all going to be taken out and it pissed him off. Stop tryna make Kidd seem like a threat to Shanks lol’
@@ganggreen4612 A threats a threat. Quit arguing over semantics. Shanks still needed to take Kid seriously because he feared for his fleet’s life. If they’re so weak they should quit being pirates.
Shanks hella playing favorites xD Im more annoyed he's protecting weak ass pirates like toad, oldman and tint girl. . Like he can protect the weak but dont make them weak pirates
Exactly, he has always been the first to take hits be it against Ace, Luffy, Magellan, Wb and now law. There is no inconsistency if it comes to Blackbeard.
thank u someone speaking about defence it drives me crazy yes shanks has a strong attack we always knew he needed hex or a strong attack since there is no way he is a tank like kaido and big mom. Black Beard has hex(darkness frute) and power(gura gura nomi) Shanks has Power and future side hex kaido and big mom a tanky and got power White beard had power and was a tank ... thats balanced to me
@@axtonxequaln5479 But BB always had a tank body, Shanks even stated there was something weird about his body. Something we as readers dont know yet. So Shanks is the only human Emperor right now so him having extreme AP makes sense but Kidd got done dirty man
I think the true meaning of the chapter was to showcase the red hair pirates in total, secretly it's main purpose was to showcase shanks crutch which is his fleet is super weak and they're able to hide behind his Banner, but one day they will be a yonko War where he wont be able to compete. just like he did in this chapter he's going to have to put it upon himself to protect everybody granted his initial crew is going to be able to hold things down but not against us stronger Fleet like buggies. this is why the title of the chapter is called The redhead Pirates and Crew, we finally see his weakness
I hear what you're saying, Sawyer. Yes, what happened to the Kid Pirates was a a bit much, but let's not forget that this is the same crew that crucified another crew for wanting the leave the New World. How did Kid put it? "It's do or die out here! If you don't have that kind of resolve, then stay off the seas!"
Also, Kid was ready to die at any time. Even when he and Law were getting pummeled by Big Mom, he refused to back down. Even when Kaido supposedly beat Luffy and Kid could barely move a muscle, he was ready to die with his fists swinging. Even when Killer warned him that he could die against Shanks, Kid accepted the possibility. So I don't think Kid would want to go out any other way.
@@MrMegaSuperDuperMe Yes, and it's that kind of mentality which is why out of all the Worst Generation (minus Luffy and Zoro, obviously) Kid is my second favorite. Law is the first of course.
@@MrMegaSuperDuperMe Also, what Sawyer seems to forget is that Shanks is someone who hates anyone that would threaten people he cares about. He let Higuma spill alcohol all over him and laughed it off. And yet, when he heard Luffy was captured by Higuma, he immediately went into "kill on contact" mode.
Are we forgetting this guy helped fight for wano as much as he is a bad guy he deserves respect whatsoever despite having a mid bag plus luffy destroyed foxxy's crew despite no injuries or fatalities
I think this was simply a straight forward message to kid that without conqueror's coating, he's stuck at a lower level than the yonko. Because that was the missing piece luffy found when fighting kaido too.
Let us not forget that pre time skip, Shanks stopped Kaido from going to Marineford and then himself showed up and told everyone that the war is over with. This man has consistently been on another level, he just doesn't need to flex unless he has to.
@davidortiz3094 this the same Kaido that was trying to off himself by any means necessary and wanted to start the greatest war the world has ever seen. It makes more sense that he would get into a full yonko brawl and still try to go to marineford.
For the balance in the New World between the Yonko, it is actually explain in the chapter itself. Shanks is the strongest Yonko and has the strongest crew, but he also has the weakest fleet by far. So he needs to compensate the power gap of Kaido and Big Mom armies (we saw their armies in Onigashima and Whole Cake) with only his crew. Shanks' fleet is a bunch of filler characters that he protects with his name. So if for exemple Shanks was going to war with Big Mom it would be incredibly dangerous for him because Big Mom has a way bigger army than him. It also explains why at Marineford Whitebeard came with all his fleet to battle the navy, but Shanks only came with his main ship. His crew is equivalent to an entire Yonko army. This is what they meant when they said that he has the most balance crew.
Well yeah That explains a lot.. I had say Shanks the strongest yonko, beckman is admiral level and lucky roo and yasopp are 1st commander level and all the other's such as lime juice, monster, monkey guy, snake guy, howling gas etc. ranges between 2nd/3rd commander level.
It's also fitting because it's a mirror of Buggy, with him having the weakest crew but having the strongest fleet. It's like two childhood buddies taking the opposite approach to reach the same goal.
@@firstorder438Lmao yes they must do something otherwise they're going down the scale bigtime. They will probably shine in the final war. And i think the hot take could go either way. Shanks vs Akainu, Shanks wins High-Extreme Kizaru vs Beckman, Kizaru wins Extreme diff. Aokiji vs Roo+Yasoop, Aokiji wins Extreme diff. Throw in 1 or 2 commanders like Lime juice and monster, then Red hair fully takes the win.
I didn’t feel so bad reading about Kid’s death in the manga, but then seeing Killer again in the new anime episode and thinking of all they had to go through to get there, and how much they all supported Luffy, it really hit me. I feel like Luffy will be devastated, too. I wonder how he’ll feel about it, knowing Shanks did it, and if maybe this was Shanks’ way of provoking Luffy into a fight.
Love the videos man, great insight, the only thing I would change is the outro volume difference, every time I forget to stop before the end I get deafened 😅
I think the diffrence between the divine departure that Shanks did against Kid compared to Rogers against Oden, is that Shanks used conquerers coating. Hence why Kids crew was passing out. Roger only used conquerers coating in the clash with Whitebeard and not against Oden. Shanks went all out against Kid because he wanted to save his friends. Roger on the other hand was just casual greeting Oden
@@davidortiz3094 You can clearly see the diffrence. There wasnt even haki on his sword against Oden. Against Whitebeard it was haki coated and sparks. Evn the anime scene makes this very clear with Roger and Whitebeards eyes turning red
@@FloundFahrdienst The same black and red lightning is there as it was with Whiteboard, albeit less intense because it wasn't a clash. When he draws his sword and swings it behind his back, it turns black and black/red lightning is emanating from it. It is clearly visible before he even makes contact with Oden.
The way i looked at it, Kidd had no defense up (armanent haki) because he was more focused on his attack. Kind of like Gon training to strike Hisoka when he was most vulnerable. Great vid btw
why is it that every time someone tries to power scale (just like in this video) they either: 1 - ignore stuff to make their points "valid" 2 - don't understand the concepts of full strength and holding back
I honestly think that one shot made more sense than you would think. Kidd was always displayed as a fighter that relies too much on his devil fruit. He doesn’t have any haki feats that I can think of like luffy, shanks, katakuri, zoro etc… even law has more haki feats in the story. Against a haki master like shanks he had no chance. Also, while shanks might have been displayed as ruthless you have to stop and think that Kidd was ready to kill members of his fleet. Shanks saw that and reacted accordingly. To me, Kidd dug his own grave the moment he decided to attack shanks’ fleet. You reap what you sow.
I think you are ignoring that Roger was saying hello to Oden and not trying to kill him. Kidd was about to kill Shank's friends and Kidd was caught off guard by the Speed blitz, Law also has a broken Devil fruit and Teach takes damage all the time.
This chapter was wow for me, it could feel as if Shanks went overboard with “killing” the Kidd pirates but as we’ve seen before- these are Pirates, not hero’s. Kidd pointed his gun at Shank’s friend and had to take the responsibility for it, also, until we see someone actually die in One Piece- I don’t think we consider them dead lol
Also keep in mind that Shanks has had the scar for decades. He had it when Luffy was a kid and he only just became a Yonko 4 years ago. So I don't think it's impossible that a younger Teach could have managed a blow on a younger Shanks
Things simply don't add up. Back when Shanks talked to Whitebeard, WB said that everyone was surprised when a pirate such as Shanks showed up without an arm. That means Shanks was already recognized as a very strong pirate back when Luffy was a kid. Blackbeard on the other hand only seemed to become strong after he got the darkness fruit, which is recent. The only explanation I can imagine is that there's a secret about BB that we're yet to find out.
Stop making excuse. Shanks himself said Bb did it with no tricks. Shanks went to wb to warn him about BB. And Bb scarred him without devil fruit. bB is strong without DF and probably stronger with one. bb is a legitimate threat to shanks.
@@evandroa4845 Blackbeard was able to wound shanks before he got the devil fruit or at least before he really used it. And Blackbeard himself said he intentionally was laying low for years. And even then it was stated that there was those on white beards crew that thought he was strong enough to be a yonko commander. It’s not hard to believe that he was strong enough to injure shanks and force shanks to take him seriously when you consider all of that. Back in Wano Marco injured big mom and even she stated it wouldn’t be an easy fight for her to win. At least pre time skip it was probably the same thing between Blackbeard and Shanks
Yes, that was a younger and weaker Shanks but that was also a younger and weaker Teach. We don't have enough info to say that the gap between them is that large. All we have is that A) Teach gave Shanks a scar that still hurts while he was trying and B) They are both yonko. Both of which insinuate that they are very similar in strength.
The thing is, and this is what bothered me in the kid and law vs big mom fight. She wasn't using advanced kings haki with her attacks. We seen her use it against page 1 then stops completely
"Danaerys sort of forgot about the Iron Fleet" "Big Mom sort of forgot about ACoC" "C'mon, Jaime wouldn't just go back to Cersei" "C'mon, Kid wouldn't just leave Kaido/Apoo alone" "Night King is a chump, can't kill anybody worthwhile" "Kaido is a chump, can't kill anybody worthwhile" "Rhaegal has nothing on Drogon's plot armor" "Elbaf Kid has nothing on Wano Kid's plot armor"
You made a typo. She wasn't using advanced king's haki with her attacks. * But yeah, that bothered me too. Completely inconsistent plot-driven drivel that she never hit them with it.
@Abyss Sun not rampaging like she was at whole cake island, she was still giving her inner monolog even in the final blow. That's not really an excuse for her not using it once in the entire fight.
ain't no way people though Kidd was Luffy's "vegeta" 💀 the head cannon/fanfic is crazy 😂 also: it was pretty clear that shanks was waiting for something to happen outside of wano (bb showing up) just like luffy was waiting for something inside (gb being to much for the samurai) but what do I know about recognizing obvious parallelism, I am just a casual reader 😉
This is Kidd's Sabaody Archipelago moment, where him and his crew gets absolutely demolished. I believe he'll come back stronger than ever. But I do like the thought that he'll come back to play a role in Shank's defeat. Maybe even ally himself with Blackbeard and go completely into the dark side.
@@yonkocommander5531 Like the Going Merry, they can always have someone build them another ship. Maybe they'll wash ashore on Elbaf and they can take their time, reevaluate what their goals, train to get stronger, and rebuild crew/ship there. If Kidd and his crew is truly dead I'll be shocked.
@@yonkocommander5531 his ship might make it since he has a really close connection to his ship since it’s named after his childhood crush I mean look at the going merry that shit did some insane stuff to stay together
I’m not really understanding the negative thoughts about this chapter. I think it’s important to stay away from the Piratefolks subreddit Sawyer, they really can contaminate your mind and ruin the experience. I’ve been there.
Once again let's appreciate how Sawyer can voice his complaints for Oda. No matter how you love/hate Kidd, there's something up with the way he treated Kidd. Then again Oda treated Sanji like that all the time, so it's not that surprising.
I'm all for criticizing Oda, but what happened here is the dumbest reason to do. There's no question. There's no inconsistency in power. There's no power creep. Kidd was oneshotted because Shanks used Advanced Conqueror's, which is literally meant to instantly KO weaker characters when you hit them. Big Mom never used it on Kidd, so that never happened. The only inconsistency is Big Mom conveniently forgetting she had it when punching Kidd or Law.
@@Shark-hn4mv this. I want to further add that Kidd’s over-reliance on his DF and Shank’s taking him out with Haki is a direct callback to Kaido’s Haki is Everything speech. You can even draw a parallel between Kid here with Shanks with Moria and Kaido, or Crocodile and Whitebeard. OP DF users humbled by Yonkos with stronger Haki.
Hey sawyer, love the video, but I think you might be confused on Shank's intentions. Shanks doesn't want Kidd's Red Glyph rubbings so that he can reach the One Piece himself. It seems clear that Shanks wants the rubbings so that he can keep them out of the hands of Blackbeard. Kidd and Luffy are the only known pirates who have Big Mom's glyph rubbings, and Shanks doesn't want to give Blackbeard the opportunity of plundering the rubbings for himself.
Idk Sawyer. You're assessment on the power scaling of the emperor's seems unnecessarily complicated. Are implying that Shanks' feat in this chapter could not have been achieved by other emperors, new and old? I feel like everyone is missing the most important point about this. It's about Matchups. Is Shanks stronger than his contemporaries? It's debatable tbh. But I don't think this chapter concretely confirms this. It only confirms that Shanks is a badass(which we kinda always knew).
No Roger’s Divine departure wasn’t using CoC against Oden. His sword isn’t infused with armament, or CoC against Oden, because he wanted Oden to join. He only uses CoC against Whitebeard when he comes in. Checkout the manga, and the anime on both scenes.
Roger did use advanced conquerers. The hell you talking about? He just used more power output against Whitebeard. You can see the difference when using a one handed technique against Oden to then using two hands against Whitebeard
Not everything has to do with pushing tickets, maybe oda had the plan to center the story towards shanks around this time and decided “hey you know what would be a fun movie to foreshadow and see people’s reactions before making the final tweaks on the final story?” he has stated many times he himself doesn’t know the full story yet. Thank you oda for finally giving us more shanks which is what everyone was asking for.
This just solidifies what Kaido said that Haki trumps all. Kidd is strong but he relies to much on his DF to train his haki. And I think that shanks is at the pinnacle of haki mastery because it is the only weapon he relies on, he doesn't have a DF. And regarding Big Mom and Kaido I think that because they have strong df abilities that it prevents them from focusing on improving their Haki to be on the same mastery as Shanks or Roger. I think that people with strong DF neglects on improving their Haki.
@@DARamMz There is a reason why only sole haki users are at top like Roger and Shanks because Haki is there only weapon, so they tend to focus on maxing their haki unlike people with strong df, take Big Mom for example she uses conqueror coated haki on Kidd and Law but they still manage to beat her. So it's safe to say that her haki is below Shanks. Another example I'd argue is Law, he is a D clan member but we have never seen him use conqueror's haki. Why is that? I think it's because of how broken his DF that he never had the need to explore or improve his haki. Another example is Shanks and his crew. Shanks became an emperor even though he had the weakest fleet of all the Yonko and it's because Shanks has the most balance and powerful crew of all the Yonko and they are all haki users, no df.
I really hope it’s Law on that BBP ship. He’s an honorary Straw Hat in my eyes since he’s been with us for half the story! It’s weird without him. Also, I think Kidd getting hit but Shanks’ adv conq haki attack might be Kidd’s chance to realise how to use adv conq haki. Pretty much mirroring how Luffy figured it out against Kaido.
This is just character development for Kidd. I think BB has some weird stuff going on with him and that’s how he was able to harm shanks...Possibly a divided personality. I believe that we still don’t have enough information to gauge exactly where BB is on the whole power scale. He’s very very shrewd with his motive, intentions, and movements.
@@jansettler4828 nah. And to be honest this has happened before. Moriahs whole crew got eliminated by Kaidou. That’s how his whole story happened. One thing I’ve learned in One pieve is if you’re not told to be dead…like literally “he is dead” or you got a whole in your chest, you probably aren’t dead or out of the story. His crew was said to be exterminated and I believe that but Kidd the character I believe will make a return in some form…some form
@@KidKingdomHearts but the fact is that shouldn’t be possible, and that’s a MAJOR mystery. Why is he the only know person in the entire story to be able to comfortably manage 2 devil fruits? Marco already commented on his abnormal body in Marineford and Luffy and Zoro referred to BB as more of a “they”. I believe he has split personalities or spirits inside of him, or maybe even another body altogether
Shanks's conqueror's allowed for this. We already heard that Shanks would have knocked out Hody + all 100k fishmen back in fishman and it was almost an underestimation to say that. When his conqueror's haki is knocking admirals out of transformed devil fruit states from deeep range it's quite clear that Killer wasn't going to fare much better. What's more is we haven't seen have any significant feats of haki from Kidd. Perhaps his damned punk on big mom was fused with it but it's hard to tell. Actually this seems to be a recurring theme with almost all the yonko where they have a good amount of haki but seem to have their "final forms" be devil fruit centric. Kidd is no different and him having no significant conqueror's lead to him just being crushed by someone who *only* has haki and namely conqueror's to pull off yonko level feats. We all knew Luffy was strong, but we didn't understand how big of a difference conqueror's made until he got one shot by Kaido. It's the same thing with Kidd, we all know he's strong and maybe he + Law was too much for BM to handle at once but alone he stands no shot when he's not put many points into the conqueror's part of his skill tree.
It blows my mind that ppl assumes Blackbeard or the ppl that was with him fighting law are arriving at egghead. I mean these clashes between Straw Hats n Seraphim’s, kid Vs shanks, Law vs Blackbeard are all happening at the same time it’s literally the same day. It makes more sense that the Blackbeard ship coming would be crew members we haven’t seen in a long time.
I’ve been saying the same thing but people are just in their own world lol. Morj said Luffy was going to show up on Elbaf while Shanks and Kidd were there for a Davy Back fight lol makes 0 sense. But these fools eat it up.
I dont understand why everyone says that if this is the end for Kid then why build up his story? Every character has an end and this is exactly the purpose of building Kid to end like this. To show us that someone at nearly luffy level who we can relate, can "die" cause now things are serious. Kaido said this isnt a little pirate game and now we see that. Personally i want Kid to stay down so it has heavier impact, like red wedding at GOT.
Popping off with this chapter 😎😎 shanks did what he had to do and kid took a clean one shot as expected. At least he got to see shanks this time. Still I feel for kid tho 😔
I guess shanks took kid down easily because he caught him off guard, while Shanks’ fodder was telling Kidd that you can’t see Shanks unless you beat us, Shanks shows up out of nowhere, as Kidd was charging up to attack the fodder pirates not expecting shanks to attack. So I don’t think we should take this as Shanks being leagues ahead of everyone. It’s kinda the same as when Kaido defeated Oden.
I think the difference between shanks and the others is that shanks isn't undamagable. Nor is black beard. But mom and kaido were so hard to beat because of their defence.
I believe that the incident in Egg Head will be the uncover of “the Ohara incident” to the world by one of the Vegapunks, either by Stella or York (thats the other plan she was talking about).
To be honest, I don't think Kid was expecting Shanks to go on a full out attack strait up, meaning he didn't have his defense ready! Also I don't think Shanks was going to go in so hard until he saw the damage Kids attack was going to do!
I agree with you completely! This is how it was showcased in this chapter. Sawyer overthought things this time with his comparisons to Kidd's fight on Onigashima and Law vs Blackbeard fight... It often happens that someone who is going to launch an attack is the most vulnerable at that time, especially when he does not have someone to cover him. In that case, both Kidd and Killer were caught by surprised, especially by one or the most powerful attacks from Shanks. Moreover, Kidd did not seem to know much about their opponent's abilities (Shanks having future sight etc.). At the end of the day, the aggressor became the victim in a matter of seconds...
Who said someone who launches an attack is the most vulnerable??? And why does a surprise attack justify getting one hit KO‘ed when you just fought against two emperors and won against one of them AND he was hit so many times by them yet he did not pass out once. Stop trying to justify eeeeeeverything no matter how ridiculous it is.
@@Nikkou96 In Sydney we went through a period of what the media called King hit attacks, after a disagreement between drunks one would leave and the other would wait a bit then come up from behind and king hit them which was a one punch assault. The damage done was always worse then if the two had had a normal fist fight, often leading to unconsciousness and even death! Kid clearly thought he had the upper hand as he was a distance from Shank's fleet which is why he was going to fire his canon, Shanks attack happened VERY quickly therefore Kid was not prepared to defend himself. Anyhoo, that’s my take on what happened!
my brother in christ, Shanks was explicitly stated to have the weakest fleet. it balances out his strongest / best balanced crew and therefore the greater balance of powers
This demolition of Shanks showing his power gets me all the more excited for when Luffy and Shanks finally meet and battle as it shows the potential that Luffy still needs to grow is still a big gap. Also I think that the person on the Blackbeard ship is the 10th Titanic Captain since we still have yet to see who it is, and seeing there power against the Straw Hats and everything else going on at Egghead could be a great way to hype this character up since this character has been a mystery since we found out there was 10 Titanic Captains post time skip.
What? Eustass wanted to kill Shanks's allies and damage his base so Red Hair needed to put him down since reasoning with him was out of the question. Estauss asked for it.
This is why i like sawyer because he doesn’t let agenda get in the way of actually accessing a chapter because shanks being able to 1shot kid whilst he was taking hits on hits from big mom makes no sense because even if shanks is stronger than big mom this makes it’s seem like he’s waaaaay above her which if that’s the case why are the yonko system even around if he can mid diff all of them?
Roger is a strong dude! His divine departure was him going easy and simply saying hello. And Oden was flown way back by a casual attack of his. Shanks uses it to a stronger extent and one shots two billion level bounty pirates .
My biggest problem with Kid getting wrecked by Shanks is that it makes the past 4 years of serialization spent with Kid on Wano feel wasted. I think Oda must have something more planned with Kid. If not Wano is in retrospect an even more bloated arc than any of us realized. Maybe Kid will team up with the Blackbeard pirates to take down Shanks if he is not already dead.
Why is everyone amazed? This is how strong Shanks should be. Whitebeard split an island with half a head. Kaido blitzed a future sight user more than once. Thunder Bellow Bagua was too much for Luffy the first time he saw it on the roof. Linlin’s full power is Hera and Prometheus fused with her sword, which never hit Kid or Law directly. She didn’t even use it until she absolutely had to. Gear 5th’s serious attacks would turn Kid into a bloody stain. If Shanks couldn’t do this I’d be disappointed.
The reason Kidd got one shotted by shanks and not big mom is because shanks actually remembered he has advanced conqueror It's not about shanks being a lot stronger than big mom , it's that oda nerfed her
yeah man she was nerfed big time 💀 she was using adv conq haki attacks on page one and ulti and not on Kidd and Law 😭 and what saddens me more is the fact that we will never get an explanation from Oda
@@anumaysethi she only used coc coating on page one, not even on ulti. and we can kind of assume why she acts like that: shes an amnesiac, cannibalistic emotionally unstable old woman, a "child friend" of hers got hurt and she took it out on page one cause it was against her personal pirate code. meanwhile, she treated kid and law as a nuisance up until the finale
@@genep9302 I get your point but she knew Law and Kidd both want to defeat/kill her and that they are stronger than Page one and Ulti. And If I remember correctly, Kidd was also the one who defeated one of commanders before Luffy got to the WCI. So does that not give her enough reason to coat her attacks with conq haki?
@@anumaysethi apparently not becvause she did not do it, when it was extremely clear with the page one attack that she did. she also keeps stating throughout the fight insults and words to show that she feels that kid and law are still beneath her, says "lets see if you are even worthy of the emperor title" when kaido had flashbacks to his personal top 5 when he was fighting luffy meanwhile
@@anumaysethi Big Mom, Mamas behavior is notoriously all over the place. She could have easily demolished luffy, sanji, jimbei, and capone in whole cake but didn't for the exact reasons you state for kid and law. As a result she is kind of a poor battle tactician, yet in some rare cases is intelligent enough to understand danger for some reason, like when she told kaido to evade zoro's attack.
I saw a one piece fan saying see shut up . People saying shanks at wano was about film red 😂 wait until oda explain but I was like yeah oda trying to make excuses now. But I just glad anytime we get to see shanks
The thing is, I think Shanks just went full on on Kidd from the start to prevent him to do anything, like a surprise attack at 100% power. I don't think this chapter shows Kidd as weak or Shanks as OP, but shows Shanks preventing Kidd to go all out at all.
Why does every one piece fan try their hardest to not criticize even 1% of the show? Why? Why just not say „ok that was not well written this time“ It can not be perfect all the time. I will never understand why people come up with the most far fetched reasons to justify lazy writing. You can still think One Piece is nice but please at least be a little bit more objective.
@@Nikkou96 ... I just explained a potential plot hole by saying that "Shanks, just like Android 17, didn't go to the shonen school of letting your opponent power up before attacking them", that's it. If you want to see me complain, ask me about the ending of the Wano arc, the anime pacing, Usopp's character arc, the treatments of female character and Oda's response to backlash...
The important part regarding shanks' power, is that it's fairly clear that he was purposefully keeping the balance until the new Gen (luffy) was ready. He was inactive by choice, until he decided to make moves. Hence, he told his crew it is NOW time to get the one piece
I feel like the argument that Teach hurt shanks, therefore is comparable to him is weak argument. Because as we saw in the chapter shanks will do whatever he has to protect his friends. Perhaps there was a future where if he didn't take a blow from teach it would harm people he cares about. We see this also when he let the leviathan eat his arm to save luffy. Shanks seems to rely heavily on his future sight which is implied when one of his crew mates ask if he saw another bad future.
He was being serious vs teach it came from his own lips man. What you said being the case make’s literally no sense and comes of as you wanting the guy to have no equal ngl
@@user-wb3qe6pv1u I mean why does it make no sense? He can be serious and take a hit for his friends? I wasn't saying he wasn't serious against teach I was saying we don't the the circumstances of how he got hit and why. I was giving a scenario on how it could have happened since to me shanks currently seems stronger than Blackbeard. Neither Blackbeard or shanks have displayed their full capabilities we don't know who would win in a fight. The reason I think shanks might be stronger is that kid and law seemed comparable, shanks took out kid and killer in one hit. Blackbeard while fighting Law sustained damage and was unable to defeat Law so quickly. This sorta displays that shanks has more raw strength than teach. I will point out that raw strength doesn't guarantee a win as Kid was perfectly capable of taking out shank's entire fleet with a single attack as shanks saw with future sight, despite this kid still lost.
I love the analytical commentary sprinkled with bits of sarcasm here and there. Regarding the Shanks’ power scaling, whether he is that strong or not, I just like to think certain moves are “super effective” and/or are “super critical hits” to use some Pokemon analogy. Luffy is unaffected by “electric moves” Usopp and Nami are weak to “fighting moves” Divine Departure is just that broken, just like Aramaki’s “Giga Drain” Blackbeard’s slash is akin to “Sucker Punch” So on and so forth
Yall got to think, that BB v Shanks fight was pre-time skip. & We are talking about a Shanks who been laying low on purpose, strong enough to walk in front of the Gorosei. Rogers divine departure wasn't a kill shot, he didn't want to kill Oden but see how strong he was. that's why he didn't let Rayleigh get at him first. plus, both crews fought to a stalemate like always. Shanks was a kill shot because Kidd was planning to kill his crew. If Kidd was really there for a 1v1 fade he would've got a fair fight, Shanks even told everyone get back & asked if he was healthy for a fade lol. I'm glad Kidd got one tapped. We are talking about pirates here, let's stop all the noble honor fights. It's the end game, the top dogs got to separate themselves from the pack. We can't have a Shanks that struggles with Kidd clash with a gear 5 Luffy who is man handling Yonkos and other people. Wouldn't make sense!!!!!
Oda has ALWAYS messed up the power scaling of his characters when SHP crew (plus now Shanks) is on the screen .. and what makes it even more disgusting is the shite fandom who defend him despite hearing the explanations like this -_-
Shank's got his scar between Roger dying and meeting Luffy, thats a 12 year gap he could of just not been anywhere near as strong as he is now when it happened, might not of even had haki yet for all we know
One thing you guys are missing is that neither kaido, BM and BB goes all out from the start, they like to toy with their enemies. Whereas shanks saw kidd as a threat and goes all out from the start. During bb vs ace, ace was also able to seriously damage bb but that doesn't mean ace=shanks. Maybe the reason they consider red hair pirates to be so deadly is because they are strong and they don't underestimate their enemies. TBH BM and kaido only lost because they were underestimating their enemy. Giving multiple chances to their enemies just because they are bored and wanted to enjoy fight more became their defeat.
I just need Oda to explain to me how Shanks does it…First in marineford when he appears on the battlefield with no one noticing at first and now how just sort of teleports onto Kidd’s ship
@Keith Jones Oda has stated that Shanks can kill other ppls observation haki. Seems like alot of ppl forgot that. He killed kids Observation Haki and caught him off guard and one spotted him.
Sawyer, if Shanks can see 10 seconds into the future but can’t see Kid trying to sneak him to then die to black beard I will drop the series. That would be horrendous
Lol, He isn't always on constant future sight, nor does it activate something bad about to happen. During the fight between katakuri and luffy, we see hw FS is used same thing applies to shanks maybe more advanced than kat but works the same way
It’s plausible. Future Sight can give you tunnel vision. Like how Kata couldn’t see Brûlée shooting Luffy (with needles despite her being live 30cm from her) because he was focused on fighting luffy .
Thank you, Saywer!!!! You have addressed/raised ALL the issues with this Chapter! It was still awesome to see, though! Shanks has always been THAT guy!
I completely agree with you Sawyer, this chapter asks more questions than gives answers and it throws a lot of previous statements and actions into plot convenience territory
I just noticed that that sentence that Shanks says in the first episode is a quote from Harlock, who is a pirate, with red hair, with a cape, with a scar on the left eye and uses a sword. Just coincidences. Also Harlock is searching for a mithic treasure that is hidden on a secret planet. If the one piece ends up beinga an eternal fire that can create things from nothingness then Oda will have literally copied the whole story from Matsumoto,lol.
It’s most likely not a coincidence. Kidd is a play off of the real pirate captain Kid-“the most unlucky pirate ever.” So I can see it being intentional
I also feel like one key detail we're missing is that this is kinda the first time where shanks really had to take someone seriously. Oda made sure to make Shanks take note of his allies being weak, and as soon as Shanks saw into the future, he saw what was potentially going to happen to them. Truth be told, in the last encounter Kidd probably had with Shanks, Shanks didn't have to worry about collateral damage to any weaker crewmates.
Perhaps the Divine departure is a technique like Meliodas's full counter from seven deadly sins, which basically sends back any attack to its user. this would explain the damage that Oden received compared to Kidd. Kidd's "damm punk" attack was just too powerful even for Kidd.
This rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't mind kid losing, but what was the point of one shoting him to show shanks is top teir? I mean, we already knew that. Yes I'm a kid fan and salty right now.
I'm not a big kidd fan but i don't hate him like most people do but hopefully the scar dude they were looking for save kidd and his crew and maybe train him.
To be honest I think the element of surprise played a role here too. Kidd barely had time to blink before Shanks leaped and divine-departured him and Killer off the race to the One Piece. He also probably used advanced conqueror's and/or advanced armement as well, which we know has greater offensive power than regular conqueror's and armement. Furthermore, Shanks' attack, while clearly inspired by Roger's, could very well be stronger assuming he had time to perfect it and eventually have it surpass that of his Sensei, or it could be that Oden simply had greater endurance than Kidd. I don't think Shanks' reaction was excessive given that he saw what Kidd was capable of and had to end it there and then for him immediately.
It's not rock paper scissors. It's just good matchups. For example, when luffy defeated enel, it want because he was stronger or on enel's level. It was just a good natural matchup for Luffy.
Blackbeard/crew member/s arriving at Egghead Island basically confirms who Caribou wants to share the secrets he learned about with, unless he has ties to Crocodile or some other major player who knows about Ancient Weapons, which I doubt. It just wouldn't make sense for a non-Yonkou. He probably contacted BB to pick him up. The biggest question is, who will be there to pick him up? Kuzan would make sense considering the parallels to Enies Lobby, but I don't see him letting Caribou deliver crucial information about Ancient Weapons to Blackbeard.
I don't think you can power scale Blackbeard and Law to Shanks and Kid because Law and Blackbeard was clash of devil fruits and Blackbeard had no way of predicting what Law's devil fruit attacks or next move was. Shanks had the ability to do that and to end the fight quickly by accurately landing a powerful attack on Kid's rail gun before he could notice he was that close in his range. Kid's rail gun doesn't give him good mobility so it was over once Shanks launched his attack, Kid was focused on destroying Shank's fleet and didn't expect to encounter Shanks that soon.
I loved this it didn't really change anything for me. Shanks gave me what I thought kaido would be like, using a lot of force up front. I get that Shanks doesn't want any of friends to get hurt so he used one his stronger attacks. Plus luffy conquerers haki probably not at max since he just got it and its so potent on kaido, what hope did Kid have against COC attacks from shanks.
Damn as a kid fan whos been in denial and cope ever since roofpiece, where it was clear there was a gap between him and luffy, this video fucking hit lmao I really did believe kid would be luffy's vegeta, its very sad that his buildup was basically pointless
I think Shanks power does make absolute sense, He has the weakest fleet he does not take protection money so much lower resources, he doesn't have an OP DF he has only his main ship and himself.
Shanks was kind enough to ask if Kidd was healed after Wano, but then saw 10 seconds into the future and INSTANTLY didn't care
Bro i wish it was only 10 sec, my guy can see 1 fucking minute into the future xD
I think there was still some fatigue factor involved. Yasopp could've just been lying like Usopp does or wanted to see some action. The fact that they even brought it up makes me think that too. But then the question would be why are Luffy and Law fine but Kidd isn't?
@@ProfessorBelz who said kidd isn't fine?
@@mohammedkhamirie395 cope
@@ProfessorBelz and who said law is fine?
Roger used divine departure to say hello to his enemies
Shanks uses divine departure to say goodbye to him enemies
😂😂😂 Exactly, the attacks were nowhere near equal.
Rodger was also Jolly and very happy, and trolling around, well shanks was extremely angry at Kitty
No. Both Roger and Shanks used the attack to test who they were fighting...The difference is that Oden took it like a chad and Capitain Midd was neg diffed. Don't be surprised if Shanks and Luffy meet and Shanks also uses it to test Luffy. Shanks even says Midd is a big shot and makes sense the attack was a test to see if his growth was equal to his 3 billion bounty. Roger said the attack was to greet and see how strong Oden was I think to Gaban and Rayleigh.
@@nunobettencourt1429 stop the bullshit. Shanks used the attack to end the situation immediately. That was the whole point of oda showing him using Advanced Observation Haki. Showing that if he didn’t end this immediately, his fleet would be wiped out by Kidd. Rodger was just ready to spar with the Whitebeard Pirates.
@@the_lonely_winner2956 Shanks over Roger might be worst than ZKK
This chapter was a painful reminder that Haki reigns supreme.
I believe Oda had Kaido intentionally say it as a reminder because he would have Shanks making moves after Wano.
It shows you that being far to reliant on your devil fruit will get you crushed this far into the Story.
Plus characters like Roger and Garp not having any devil fruits has to be justified. Haki has to reign supreme.
@@flochforster22 fr can't wait to see garp go all out & flashbacks.
@@glemoo I think that would also be Teech's downfall
@@glemoo I feel like it’s too obvious black beard will kill shanks that oda will do something else to subvert our expectations
That was the literal first lesson of the new world at fish man island with pekoms
Shanks immediately going in for the kill after seeing the devastation Kid's attack caused just shows he acknowledged it as a threat, and followed his own advice by not making the same mistake as his peers. If Kid's still alive and his haki still doesn't bloom after this defeat, then it really is the end for him.
Kidd just seems like a Shiki type character. OP devil fruit ability, without too much advanced Haki abilities.
It wasn’t a threat to his crew😑😑. It was a threat to the weak members of the fleet. Shanks saw a threat to the weaklings who were all going to be taken out and it pissed him off. Stop tryna make Kidd seem like a threat to Shanks lol’
@@ganggreen4612
A threats a threat. Quit arguing over semantics. Shanks still needed to take Kid seriously because he feared for his fleet’s life. If they’re so weak they should quit being pirates.
Quit? You mean like Kidd?
@@Youngblood-Pirates they were still weak and Kidd was about to kill them like all the innocent weaklings he killed
Including himself
What he said: The new generation will surpass the old
What he meant: only luffy
Shanks hella playing favorites xD
Im more annoyed he's protecting weak ass pirates like toad, oldman and tint girl. . Like he can protect the weak but dont make them weak pirates
perfect example of "well yes, but actually no"
nope he meant luffy and law
Oda 2008: *This guy kid is going to be important.*
Oda 2023: *Ah yes, my favorite whipping boy.*
I don't really think we can take damage to Teach as a reference. He rarely defends and his body isn't like Kaido.
Exactly, he has always been the first to take hits be it against Ace, Luffy, Magellan, Wb and now law. There is no inconsistency if it comes to Blackbeard.
thank u someone speaking about defence it drives me crazy yes shanks has a strong attack we always knew he needed hex or a strong attack since there is no way he is a tank like kaido and big mom. Black Beard has hex(darkness frute) and power(gura gura nomi) Shanks has Power and future side hex kaido and big mom a tanky and got power White beard had power and was a tank ... thats balanced to me
@@axtonxequaln5479 But BB always had a tank body, Shanks even stated there was something weird about his body. Something we as readers dont know yet. So Shanks is the only human Emperor right now so him having extreme AP makes sense but Kidd got done dirty man
@@idontwantsmoke talking about something weird. if haki can negate df power. what if bb can negate haki.
Yeah BB ALWAYS takes damage. It’s not a sign that his opponent is strong, it’s just how BB fights.
I think the true meaning of the chapter was to showcase the red hair pirates in total, secretly it's main purpose was to showcase shanks crutch which is his fleet is super weak and they're able to hide behind his Banner, but one day they will be a yonko War where he wont be able to compete. just like he did in this chapter he's going to have to put it upon himself to protect everybody granted his initial crew is going to be able to hold things down but not against us stronger Fleet like buggies. this is why the title of the chapter is called The redhead Pirates and Crew, we finally see his weakness
Buggies fleet isnt stronger 😂 shanks and his crew will eat them
@ACE what you doing here, ain’t you supposed to finding One Piece now😂😂 you done swam in the Arctic Ocean. Another bucket list check
Agreed this is the first time we get a look into Shanks as a fleet commander and how different he is from everyone else.
@@rexyz5875 Buggies Fleet is stronger
"his weakness" 😂😂😂
I hear what you're saying, Sawyer. Yes, what happened to the Kid Pirates was a a bit much, but let's not forget that this is the same crew that crucified another crew for wanting the leave the New World. How did Kid put it? "It's do or die out here! If you don't have that kind of resolve, then stay off the seas!"
Bingo!
Also, Kid was ready to die at any time.
Even when he and Law were getting pummeled by Big Mom, he refused to back down. Even when Kaido supposedly beat Luffy and Kid could barely move a muscle, he was ready to die with his fists swinging. Even when Killer warned him that he could die against Shanks, Kid accepted the possibility.
So I don't think Kid would want to go out any other way.
@@MrMegaSuperDuperMe Yes, and it's that kind of mentality which is why out of all the Worst Generation (minus Luffy and Zoro, obviously) Kid is my second favorite. Law is the first of course.
@@MrMegaSuperDuperMe Also, what Sawyer seems to forget is that Shanks is someone who hates anyone that would threaten people he cares about. He let Higuma spill alcohol all over him and laughed it off. And yet, when he heard Luffy was captured by Higuma, he immediately went into "kill on contact" mode.
Are we forgetting this guy helped fight for wano
as much as he is a bad guy he deserves respect whatsoever despite having a mid bag
plus luffy destroyed foxxy's crew despite no injuries or fatalities
I think this was simply a straight forward message to kid that without conqueror's coating, he's stuck at a lower level than the yonko. Because that was the missing piece luffy found when fighting kaido too.
Yup
Let us not forget that pre time skip, Shanks stopped Kaido from going to Marineford and then himself showed up and told everyone that the war is over with. This man has consistently been on another level, he just doesn't need to flex unless he has to.
Shanks didn't do any damage to Kaido, I doubt Shanks has even seen Kaido's hybrid. They probably just split the skies and had an agreement.
@@tawchaentertainment1488 but to even merely stop kaido without any further pushback shows a clear feat of how powerful Shanks is.
@@megamangman Well it's also common sense from Kaidos perspective. Taking on another Yonko & then heading to Marineford? He would have gotten smoked
@davidortiz3094 this the same Kaido that was trying to off himself by any means necessary and wanted to start the greatest war the world has ever seen. It makes more sense that he would get into a full yonko brawl and still try to go to marineford.
Plus the Gorosei stop what they're doing when he walks in.
I actually feel bad for Kid but he had it coming
Definitely, you don't pick a fight with every other crew and expect not to pay for it. Even Luffy has sense enough to try and befriend other crews.
@@EdwardNewgate58 luffy is not doing that to avoid problems he befriends people because that’s just his personality.
@@chrislewis7006 still doesn't change the fact that he's not needlessly creating more enemies
@@EdwardNewgate58 They were firing at him last we saw them off the coast. Granted it's not clear who fired first, but what were they going to do.
@@theonlyhikaru and that’s not what I was disputing. I specifically disputed (WHY) not the outcome.
“Reminder that in life not everyone has main character plot armor” Sawyer dropping a gem at the end of the video
For the balance in the New World between the Yonko, it is actually explain in the chapter itself.
Shanks is the strongest Yonko and has the strongest crew, but he also has the weakest fleet by far. So he needs to compensate the power gap of Kaido and Big Mom armies (we saw their armies in Onigashima and Whole Cake) with only his crew. Shanks' fleet is a bunch of filler characters that he protects with his name.
So if for exemple Shanks was going to war with Big Mom it would be incredibly dangerous for him because Big Mom has a way bigger army than him. It also explains why at Marineford Whitebeard came with all his fleet to battle the navy, but Shanks only came with his main ship. His crew is equivalent to an entire Yonko army. This is what they meant when they said that he has the most balance crew.
Well yeah That explains a lot..
I had say Shanks the strongest yonko, beckman is admiral level and lucky roo and yasopp are 1st commander level and all the other's such as lime juice, monster, monkey guy, snake guy, howling gas etc. ranges between 2nd/3rd commander level.
Here's a hot take
Shanks+Beckman+Luckyroo+Yasoop can take care of 3 OG admirals Akainu+Aokiji+Kizaru.
It's also fitting because it's a mirror of Buggy, with him having the weakest crew but having the strongest fleet. It's like two childhood buddies taking the opposite approach to reach the same goal.
@@knighteNo Not really a hot take admirals have been getting downplayed and crapped on for decades now flip the take and then it would be hot.
@@firstorder438Lmao yes they must do something otherwise they're going down the scale bigtime. They will probably shine in the final war.
And i think the hot take could go either way.
Shanks vs Akainu, Shanks wins High-Extreme
Kizaru vs Beckman, Kizaru wins Extreme diff.
Aokiji vs Roo+Yasoop, Aokiji wins Extreme diff.
Throw in 1 or 2 commanders like Lime juice and monster, then Red hair fully takes the win.
Yeah, but what was even more sadder was the lack of remorse shown by the fandom. Rip Kid 😔
I mean, even if we like Kid as a character, he’s a bastard. Not surprising we don’t feel sorry for him
I didn’t feel so bad reading about Kid’s death in the manga, but then seeing Killer again in the new anime episode and thinking of all they had to go through to get there, and how much they all supported Luffy, it really hit me. I feel like Luffy will be devastated, too. I wonder how he’ll feel about it, knowing Shanks did it, and if maybe this was Shanks’ way of provoking Luffy into a fight.
Yeah, it is a shame that the post time-skip story just ate away pretty much all the investment people had in Kid.
He's coming back I'm sure of it.
True
Love the videos man, great insight, the only thing I would change is the outro volume difference, every time I forget to stop before the end I get deafened 😅
I think the diffrence between the divine departure that Shanks did against Kid compared to Rogers against Oden, is that Shanks used conquerers coating. Hence why Kids crew was passing out. Roger only used conquerers coating in the clash with Whitebeard and not against Oden.
Shanks went all out against Kid because he wanted to save his friends. Roger on the other hand was just casual greeting Oden
It's coating
@@sagovana autocorrect xD
Both used conquerers coating. Oden is just more of a beast than Kid. There is a reason why Oden is Kaidos top 5
@@davidortiz3094 You can clearly see the diffrence. There wasnt even haki on his sword against Oden. Against Whitebeard it was haki coated and sparks. Evn the anime scene makes this very clear with Roger and Whitebeards eyes turning red
@@FloundFahrdienst The same black and red lightning is there as it was with Whiteboard, albeit less intense because it wasn't a clash. When he draws his sword and swings it behind his back, it turns black and black/red lightning is emanating from it. It is clearly visible before he even makes contact with Oden.
The way i looked at it, Kidd had no defense up (armanent haki) because he was more focused on his attack. Kind of like Gon training to strike Hisoka when he was most vulnerable. Great vid btw
why is it that every time someone tries to power scale (just like in this video) they either:
1 - ignore stuff to make their points "valid"
2 - don't understand the concepts of full strength and holding back
I honestly think that one shot made more sense than you would think. Kidd was always displayed as a fighter that relies too much on his devil fruit. He doesn’t have any haki feats that I can think of like luffy, shanks, katakuri, zoro etc… even law has more haki feats in the story. Against a haki master like shanks he had no chance. Also, while shanks might have been displayed as ruthless you have to stop and think that Kidd was ready to kill members of his fleet. Shanks saw that and reacted accordingly. To me, Kidd dug his own grave the moment he decided to attack shanks’ fleet. You reap what you sow.
I think you are ignoring that Roger was saying hello to Oden and not trying to kill him. Kidd was about to kill Shank's friends and Kidd was caught off guard by the Speed blitz, Law also has a broken Devil fruit and Teach takes damage all the time.
This chapter was wow for me, it could feel as if Shanks went overboard with “killing” the Kidd pirates but as we’ve seen before- these are Pirates, not hero’s. Kidd pointed his gun at Shank’s friend and had to take the responsibility for it, also, until we see someone actually die in One Piece- I don’t think we consider them dead lol
Also keep in mind that Shanks has had the scar for decades. He had it when Luffy was a kid and he only just became a Yonko 4 years ago. So I don't think it's impossible that a younger Teach could have managed a blow on a younger Shanks
Things simply don't add up. Back when Shanks talked to Whitebeard, WB said that everyone was surprised when a pirate such as Shanks showed up without an arm. That means Shanks was already recognized as a very strong pirate back when Luffy was a kid. Blackbeard on the other hand only seemed to become strong after he got the darkness fruit, which is recent. The only explanation I can imagine is that there's a secret about BB that we're yet to find out.
Stop making excuse. Shanks himself said Bb did it with no tricks. Shanks went to wb to warn him about BB. And Bb scarred him without devil fruit. bB is strong without DF and probably stronger with one. bb is a legitimate threat to shanks.
@@evandroa4845 Blackbeard was able to wound shanks before he got the devil fruit or at least before he really used it. And Blackbeard himself said he intentionally was laying low for years. And even then it was stated that there was those on white beards crew that thought he was strong enough to be a yonko commander. It’s not hard to believe that he was strong enough to injure shanks and force shanks to take him seriously when you consider all of that. Back in Wano Marco injured big mom and even she stated it wouldn’t be an easy fight for her to win. At least pre time skip it was probably the same thing between Blackbeard and Shanks
Yes, that was a younger and weaker Shanks but that was also a younger and weaker Teach. We don't have enough info to say that the gap between them is that large.
All we have is that A) Teach gave Shanks a scar that still hurts while he was trying and B) They are both yonko. Both of which insinuate that they are very similar in strength.
@@sayianman1361 this. People forget if shanks was weak back then, BB was weak back then as well. Lmao
The thing is, and this is what bothered me in the kid and law vs big mom fight. She wasn't using advanced kings haki with her attacks. We seen her use it against page 1 then stops completely
"Danaerys sort of forgot about the Iron Fleet"
"Big Mom sort of forgot about ACoC"
"C'mon, Jaime wouldn't just go back to Cersei"
"C'mon, Kid wouldn't just leave Kaido/Apoo alone"
"Night King is a chump, can't kill anybody worthwhile"
"Kaido is a chump, can't kill anybody worthwhile"
"Rhaegal has nothing on Drogon's plot armor"
"Elbaf Kid has nothing on Wano Kid's plot armor"
You made a typo.
She wasn't using advanced king's haki with her attacks. *
But yeah, that bothered me too. Completely inconsistent plot-driven drivel that she never hit them with it.
@@sandwich1601 She did use it after being hit with Punk Crash, she awakened her fruit too.
Big Mom was rampaging, she cant control her advanced haki.
@Abyss Sun not rampaging like she was at whole cake island, she was still giving her inner monolog even in the final blow. That's not really an excuse for her not using it once in the entire fight.
ain't no way people though Kidd was Luffy's "vegeta" 💀 the head cannon/fanfic is crazy 😂
also: it was pretty clear that shanks was waiting for something to happen outside of wano (bb showing up) just like luffy was waiting for something inside (gb being to much for the samurai)
but what do I know about recognizing obvious parallelism, I am just a casual reader 😉
This is Kidd's Sabaody Archipelago moment, where him and his crew gets absolutely demolished. I believe he'll come back stronger than ever.
But I do like the thought that he'll come back to play a role in Shank's defeat. Maybe even ally himself with Blackbeard and go completely into the dark side.
The Sunny wasn't destroyed in Sabaody, ship gone= crew gone
@@yonkocommander5531 Like the Going Merry, they can always have someone build them another ship. Maybe they'll wash ashore on Elbaf and they can take their time, reevaluate what their goals, train to get stronger, and rebuild crew/ship there. If Kidd and his crew is truly dead I'll be shocked.
@@yonkocommander5531 his ship might make it since he has a really close connection to his ship since it’s named after his childhood crush I mean look at the going merry that shit did some insane stuff to stay together
Kidd already got demolished when kaido had him slumped over in a jail cell 😂
@@garageguy3096 Same with Luffy, he'll be fine.
I’m not really understanding the negative thoughts about this chapter. I think it’s important to stay away from the Piratefolks subreddit Sawyer, they really can contaminate your mind and ruin the experience. I’ve been there.
Once again let's appreciate how Sawyer can voice his complaints for Oda. No matter how you love/hate Kidd, there's something up with the way he treated Kidd. Then again Oda treated Sanji like that all the time, so it's not that surprising.
I feel like most youtubers are afraid to voice their criticisms of the story. I'm glad Sawyer has never held back
We’ve never seen sanji get treated the way kidd was in this chapter
I'm all for criticizing Oda, but what happened here is the dumbest reason to do.
There's no question. There's no inconsistency in power. There's no power creep. Kidd was oneshotted because Shanks used Advanced Conqueror's, which is literally meant to instantly KO weaker characters when you hit them. Big Mom never used it on Kidd, so that never happened. The only inconsistency is Big Mom conveniently forgetting she had it when punching Kidd or Law.
@@Shark-hn4mv this. I want to further add that Kidd’s over-reliance on his DF and Shank’s taking him out with Haki is a direct callback to Kaido’s Haki is Everything speech. You can even draw a parallel between Kid here with Shanks with Moria and Kaido, or Crocodile and Whitebeard. OP DF users humbled by Yonkos with stronger Haki.
@@Shark-hn4mv Big Mom used Adv. Conq Haki on Kidd after he used Punk Crash and tried to steal his soul.
you the goat fr when it comes to one piece reviews, theroy, etc. been watching since like 17 and I'm 23 now
Hey sawyer, love the video, but I think you might be confused on Shank's intentions.
Shanks doesn't want Kidd's Red Glyph rubbings so that he can reach the One Piece himself. It seems clear that Shanks wants the rubbings so that he can keep them out of the hands of Blackbeard. Kidd and Luffy are the only known pirates who have Big Mom's glyph rubbings, and Shanks doesn't want to give Blackbeard the opportunity of plundering the rubbings for himself.
Idk Sawyer. You're assessment on the power scaling of the emperor's seems unnecessarily complicated. Are implying that Shanks' feat in this chapter could not have been achieved by other emperors, new and old?
I feel like everyone is missing the most important point about this. It's about Matchups. Is Shanks stronger than his contemporaries? It's debatable tbh. But I don't think this chapter concretely confirms this. It only confirms that Shanks is a badass(which we kinda always knew).
No Roger’s Divine departure wasn’t using CoC against Oden. His sword isn’t infused with armament, or CoC against Oden, because he wanted Oden to join. He only uses CoC against Whitebeard when he comes in. Checkout the manga, and the anime on both scenes.
Yeah, and Roger's only targeted Oden.
With Shanks, it looked like an explosion was set off on Kid's ship that also took out some of the crew.
Roger did use advanced conquerers. The hell you talking about? He just used more power output against Whitebeard. You can see the difference when using a one handed technique against Oden to then using two hands against Whitebeard
@@davidortiz3094 you are not serious. The only difference is two hands? Bye dude
@@MrMegaSuperDuperMe I think the explosion was Damned Punk. Or at least that's how I interpreted it.
@@blackfour5 at this point ur just assuming, ur not even sure about what u said
Not everything has to do with pushing tickets, maybe oda had the plan to center the story towards shanks around this time and decided “hey you know what would be a fun movie to foreshadow and see people’s reactions before making the final tweaks on the final story?” he has stated many times he himself doesn’t know the full story yet. Thank you oda for finally giving us more shanks which is what everyone was asking for.
This just solidifies what Kaido said that Haki trumps all. Kidd is strong but he relies to much on his DF to train his haki. And I think that shanks is at the pinnacle of haki mastery because it is the only weapon he relies on, he doesn't have a DF. And regarding Big Mom and Kaido I think that because they have strong df abilities that it prevents them from focusing on improving their Haki to be on the same mastery as Shanks or Roger.
I think that people with strong DF neglects on improving their Haki.
Neglects improving their haki 🤣🤣 no they are already at their best. Way to cope 😂
@@DARamMz There is a reason why only sole haki users are at top like Roger and Shanks because Haki is there only weapon, so they tend to focus on maxing their haki unlike people with strong df, take Big Mom for example she uses conqueror coated haki on Kidd and Law but they still manage to beat her. So it's safe to say that her haki is below Shanks.
Another example I'd argue is Law, he is a D clan member but we have never seen him use conqueror's haki. Why is that? I think it's because of how broken his DF that he never had the need to explore or improve his haki.
Another example is Shanks and his crew. Shanks became an emperor even though he had the weakest fleet of all the Yonko and it's because Shanks has the most balance and powerful crew of all the Yonko and they are all haki users, no df.
I really hope it’s Law on that BBP ship. He’s an honorary Straw Hat in my eyes since he’s been with us for half the story! It’s weird without him.
Also, I think Kidd getting hit but Shanks’ adv conq haki attack might be Kidd’s chance to realise how to use adv conq haki. Pretty much mirroring how Luffy figured it out against Kaido.
This is just character development for Kidd.
I think BB has some weird stuff going on with him and that’s how he was able to harm shanks...Possibly a divided personality. I believe that we still don’t have enough information to gauge exactly where BB is on the whole power scale. He’s very very shrewd with his motive, intentions, and movements.
Character development? Mate I know it's One Piece but they are probably dead. And if not dead, out of most of the story.
I feel we do seeing as he has the most destructive fruit in the verse and the most mysterious and one of the rarest fruits in the verse.
@@jansettler4828 nah. And to be honest this has happened before. Moriahs whole crew got eliminated by Kaidou. That’s how his whole story happened. One thing I’ve learned in One pieve is if you’re not told to be dead…like literally “he is dead” or you got a whole in your chest, you probably aren’t dead or out of the story.
His crew was said to be exterminated and I believe that but Kidd the character I believe will make a return in some form…some form
@@KidKingdomHearts but the fact is that shouldn’t be possible, and that’s a MAJOR mystery. Why is he the only know person in the entire story to be able to comfortably manage 2 devil fruits?
Marco already commented on his abnormal body in Marineford and Luffy and Zoro referred to BB as more of a “they”.
I believe he has split personalities or spirits inside of him, or maybe even another body altogether
Shanks's conqueror's allowed for this. We already heard that Shanks would have knocked out Hody + all 100k fishmen back in fishman and it was almost an underestimation to say that. When his conqueror's haki is knocking admirals out of transformed devil fruit states from deeep range it's quite clear that Killer wasn't going to fare much better. What's more is we haven't seen have any significant feats of haki from Kidd. Perhaps his damned punk on big mom was fused with it but it's hard to tell. Actually this seems to be a recurring theme with almost all the yonko where they have a good amount of haki but seem to have their "final forms" be devil fruit centric. Kidd is no different and him having no significant conqueror's lead to him just being crushed by someone who *only* has haki and namely conqueror's to pull off yonko level feats. We all knew Luffy was strong, but we didn't understand how big of a difference conqueror's made until he got one shot by Kaido. It's the same thing with Kidd, we all know he's strong and maybe he + Law was too much for BM to handle at once but alone he stands no shot when he's not put many points into the conqueror's part of his skill tree.
It blows my mind that ppl assumes Blackbeard or the ppl that was with him fighting law are arriving at egghead. I mean these clashes between Straw Hats n Seraphim’s, kid Vs shanks, Law vs Blackbeard are all happening at the same time it’s literally the same day. It makes more sense that the Blackbeard ship coming would be crew members we haven’t seen in a long time.
I’ve been saying the same thing but people are just in their own world lol. Morj said Luffy was going to show up on Elbaf while Shanks and Kidd were there for a Davy Back fight lol makes 0 sense. But these fools eat it up.
yeah its kuzan and shiryu they werent there in the law vs bb
@@the_lonely_winner2956 yeah thye are dumb also they downplay law just cause kid got one shotted law was always stronger then kid and zoro
I dont understand why everyone says that if this is the end for Kid then why build up his story? Every character has an end and this is exactly the purpose of building Kid to end like this. To show us that someone at nearly luffy level who we can relate, can "die" cause now things are serious. Kaido said this isnt a little pirate game and now we see that. Personally i want Kid to stay down so it has heavier impact, like red wedding at GOT.
Popping off with this chapter 😎😎 shanks did what he had to do and kid took a clean one shot as expected. At least he got to see shanks this time. Still I feel for kid tho 😔
I guess shanks took kid down easily because he caught him off guard, while Shanks’ fodder was telling Kidd that you can’t see Shanks unless you beat us, Shanks shows up out of nowhere, as Kidd was charging up to attack the fodder pirates not expecting shanks to attack. So I don’t think we should take this as Shanks being leagues ahead of everyone.
It’s kinda the same as when Kaido defeated Oden.
I’m so glad you do reviews. Everyone act like this made sense storytelling and power wise and it doesn’t make any type of sense.
I think the difference between shanks and the others is that shanks isn't undamagable. Nor is black beard. But mom and kaido were so hard to beat because of their defence.
I believe that the incident in Egg Head will be the uncover of “the Ohara incident” to the world by one of the Vegapunks, either by Stella or York (thats the other plan she was talking about).
To be honest, I don't think Kid was expecting Shanks to go on a full out attack strait up, meaning he didn't have his defense ready! Also I don't think Shanks was going to go in so hard until he saw the damage Kids attack was going to do!
I agree with you completely! This is how it was showcased in this chapter. Sawyer overthought things this time with his comparisons to Kidd's fight on Onigashima and Law vs Blackbeard fight... It often happens that someone who is going to launch an attack is the most vulnerable at that time, especially when he does not have someone to cover him.
In that case, both Kidd and Killer were caught by surprised, especially by one or the most powerful attacks from Shanks. Moreover, Kidd did not seem to know much about their opponent's abilities (Shanks having future sight etc.). At the end of the day, the aggressor became the victim in a matter of seconds...
Who said someone who launches an attack is the most vulnerable??? And why does a surprise attack justify getting one hit KO‘ed when you just fought against two emperors and won against one of them AND he was hit so many times by them yet he did not pass out once. Stop trying to justify eeeeeeverything no matter how ridiculous it is.
@@Nikkou96 I'm not trying to justify anything, simply my take on the fight. Your free to believe what you want, it won't change the outcome! 😉🙂
@@Nikkou96 In Sydney we went through a period of what the media called King hit attacks, after a disagreement between drunks one would leave and the other would wait a bit then come up from behind and king hit them which was a one punch assault. The damage done was always worse then if the two had had a normal fist fight, often leading to unconsciousness and even death!
Kid clearly thought he had the upper hand as he was a distance from Shank's fleet which is why he was going to fire his canon, Shanks attack happened VERY quickly therefore Kid was not prepared to defend himself. Anyhoo, that’s my take on what happened!
When you said “ I wanted to be right, but not like this.” I dropped dead 😂
HIGHLY DOUBT, that Roger’s attack was the same power as Shanks’… Roger wanted to recruit Oden… not eradicate him and his friends lol
my brother in christ, Shanks was explicitly stated to have the weakest fleet. it balances out his strongest / best balanced crew and therefore the greater balance of powers
This demolition of Shanks showing his power gets me all the more excited for when Luffy and Shanks finally meet and battle as it shows the potential that Luffy still needs to grow is still a big gap. Also I think that the person on the Blackbeard ship is the 10th Titanic Captain since we still have yet to see who it is, and seeing there power against the Straw Hats and everything else going on at Egghead could be a great way to hype this character up since this character has been a mystery since we found out there was 10 Titanic Captains post time skip.
Killer was that rare friend who knows its stupid but still follows ya down to hell
What? Eustass wanted to kill Shanks's allies and damage his base so Red Hair needed to put him down since reasoning with him was out of the question. Estauss asked for it.
Meh. Shanks protecting weak pirates is kinda lame
@@BuNnyDuDeDaRoOWhat about Luffy? Whitebeard? Roger?! Lol
This is why i like sawyer because he doesn’t let agenda get in the way of actually accessing a chapter because shanks being able to 1shot kid whilst he was taking hits on hits from big mom makes no sense because even if shanks is stronger than big mom this makes it’s seem like he’s waaaaay above her which if that’s the case why are the yonko system even around if he can mid diff all of them?
Roger is a strong dude! His divine departure was him going easy and simply saying hello. And Oden was flown way back by a casual attack of his.
Shanks uses it to a stronger extent and one shots two billion level bounty pirates .
Blackbeard taking damage is basicaly a character trait now, he always gets his ass kicked, the problem is when he fights back
My biggest problem with Kid getting wrecked by Shanks is that it makes the past 4 years of serialization spent with Kid on Wano feel wasted. I think Oda must have something more planned with Kid. If not Wano is in retrospect an even more bloated arc than any of us realized. Maybe Kid will team up with the Blackbeard pirates to take down Shanks if he is not already dead.
Why is everyone amazed? This is how strong Shanks should be.
Whitebeard split an island with half a head.
Kaido blitzed a future sight user more than once. Thunder Bellow Bagua was too much for Luffy the first time he saw it on the roof.
Linlin’s full power is Hera and Prometheus fused with her sword, which never hit Kid or Law directly. She didn’t even use it until she absolutely had to.
Gear 5th’s serious attacks would turn Kid into a bloody stain.
If Shanks couldn’t do this I’d be disappointed.
The reason Kidd got one shotted by shanks and not big mom is because shanks actually remembered he has advanced conqueror
It's not about shanks being a lot stronger than big mom , it's that oda nerfed her
yeah man she was nerfed big time 💀 she was using adv conq haki attacks on page one and ulti and not on Kidd and Law 😭 and what saddens me more is the fact that we will never get an explanation from Oda
@@anumaysethi she only used coc coating on page one, not even on ulti. and we can kind of assume why she acts like that: shes an amnesiac, cannibalistic emotionally unstable old woman, a "child friend" of hers got hurt and she took it out on page one cause it was against her personal pirate code. meanwhile, she treated kid and law as a nuisance up until the finale
@@genep9302 I get your point but she knew Law and Kidd both want to defeat/kill her and that they are stronger than Page one and Ulti. And If I remember correctly, Kidd was also the one who defeated one of commanders before Luffy got to the WCI. So does that not give her enough reason to coat her attacks with conq haki?
@@anumaysethi apparently not becvause she did not do it, when it was extremely clear with the page one attack that she did. she also keeps stating throughout the fight insults and words to show that she feels that kid and law are still beneath her, says "lets see if you are even worthy of the emperor title" when kaido had flashbacks to his personal top 5 when he was fighting luffy meanwhile
@@anumaysethi Big Mom, Mamas behavior is notoriously all over the place. She could have easily demolished luffy, sanji, jimbei, and capone in whole cake but didn't for the exact reasons you state for kid and law. As a result she is kind of a poor battle tactician, yet in some rare cases is intelligent enough to understand danger for some reason, like when she told kaido to evade zoro's attack.
I saw a one piece fan saying see shut up . People saying shanks at wano was about film red 😂 wait until oda explain but I was like yeah oda trying to make excuses now. But I just glad anytime we get to see shanks
The thing is, I think Shanks just went full on on Kidd from the start to prevent him to do anything, like a surprise attack at 100% power. I don't think this chapter shows Kidd as weak or Shanks as OP, but shows Shanks preventing Kidd to go all out at all.
Why does every one piece fan try their hardest to not criticize even 1% of the show? Why? Why just not say „ok that was not well written this time“
It can not be perfect all the time. I will never understand why people come up with the most far fetched reasons to justify lazy writing. You can still think One Piece is nice but please at least be a little bit more objective.
@@Nikkou96 ... I just explained a potential plot hole by saying that "Shanks, just like Android 17, didn't go to the shonen school of letting your opponent power up before attacking them", that's it. If you want to see me complain, ask me about the ending of the Wano arc, the anime pacing, Usopp's character arc, the treatments of female character and Oda's response to backlash...
The important part regarding shanks' power, is that it's fairly clear that he was purposefully keeping the balance until the new Gen (luffy) was ready.
He was inactive by choice, until he decided to make moves. Hence, he told his crew it is NOW time to get the one piece
I feel like the argument that Teach hurt shanks, therefore is comparable to him is weak argument. Because as we saw in the chapter shanks will do whatever he has to protect his friends. Perhaps there was a future where if he didn't take a blow from teach it would harm people he cares about. We see this also when he let the leviathan eat his arm to save luffy. Shanks seems to rely heavily on his future sight which is implied when one of his crew mates ask if he saw another bad future.
He was being serious vs teach it came from his own lips man. What you said being the case make’s literally no sense and comes of as you wanting the guy to have no equal ngl
@@user-wb3qe6pv1u I mean why does it make no sense? He can be serious and take a hit for his friends? I wasn't saying he wasn't serious against teach I was saying we don't the the circumstances of how he got hit and why. I was giving a scenario on how it could have happened since to me shanks currently seems stronger than Blackbeard. Neither Blackbeard or shanks have displayed their full capabilities we don't know who would win in a fight. The reason I think shanks might be stronger is that kid and law seemed comparable, shanks took out kid and killer in one hit. Blackbeard while fighting Law sustained damage and was unable to defeat Law so quickly. This sorta displays that shanks has more raw strength than teach. I will point out that raw strength doesn't guarantee a win as Kid was perfectly capable of taking out shank's entire fleet with a single attack as shanks saw with future sight, despite this kid still lost.
@@user-wb3qe6pv1u law is alot stronger than kid luffy and maw were always the strongest supernovas
I love the analytical commentary sprinkled with bits of sarcasm here and there.
Regarding the Shanks’ power scaling, whether he is that strong or not, I just like to think certain moves are “super effective” and/or are “super critical hits” to use some Pokemon analogy.
Luffy is unaffected by “electric moves”
Usopp and Nami are weak to “fighting moves”
Divine Departure is just that broken, just like Aramaki’s “Giga Drain”
Blackbeard’s slash is akin to “Sucker Punch”
So on and so forth
Yall got to think, that BB v Shanks fight was pre-time skip. & We are talking about a Shanks who been laying low on purpose, strong enough to walk in front of the Gorosei. Rogers divine departure wasn't a kill shot, he didn't want to kill Oden but see how strong he was. that's why he didn't let Rayleigh get at him first. plus, both crews fought to a stalemate like always. Shanks was a kill shot because Kidd was planning to kill his crew. If Kidd was really there for a 1v1 fade he would've got a fair fight, Shanks even told everyone get back & asked if he was healthy for a fade lol. I'm glad Kidd got one tapped. We are talking about pirates here, let's stop all the noble honor fights. It's the end game, the top dogs got to separate themselves from the pack. We can't have a Shanks that struggles with Kidd clash with a gear 5 Luffy who is man handling Yonkos and other people. Wouldn't make sense!!!!!
Oda has ALWAYS messed up the power scaling of his characters when SHP crew (plus now Shanks) is on the screen .. and what makes it even more disgusting is the shite fandom who defend him despite hearing the explanations like this -_-
Shank's got his scar between Roger dying and meeting Luffy, thats a 12 year gap he could of just not been anywhere near as strong as he is now when it happened, might not of even had haki yet for all we know
One thing you guys are missing is that neither kaido, BM and BB goes all out from the start, they like to toy with their enemies. Whereas shanks saw kidd as a threat and goes all out from the start.
During bb vs ace, ace was also able to seriously damage bb but that doesn't mean ace=shanks. Maybe the reason they consider red hair pirates to be so deadly is because they are strong and they don't underestimate their enemies.
TBH BM and kaido only lost because they were underestimating their enemy. Giving multiple chances to their enemies just because they are bored and wanted to enjoy fight more became their defeat.
I can’t wait for shanks vs kid to be a 3 episode back and forth fight in the anime
toei a walking L
I like to imagine Oda waving his finger , saying to himself "No, no, no, better think again, power scalers!" while drawing Shanks styling on Kid.
I just need Oda to explain to me how Shanks does it…First in marineford when he appears on the battlefield with no one noticing at first and now how just sort of teleports onto Kidd’s ship
he can cancel observation haki
Kid: "My ship is beyond your rea-*(Shanks jumps)* You can fly?!"
Shanks: "No, jump good!"
Shanks never skips leg day
I think it’s reasonable to assume that the maxed out abilities of observation Haki could include some sort of stoppage of time ability.
@Keith Jones Oda has stated that Shanks can kill other ppls observation haki. Seems like alot of ppl forgot that. He killed kids Observation Haki and caught him off guard and one spotted him.
Everyone thinking that Shanks got that scar one day ago before he destroy Kidd.
People,it happened 26 fucking years ago.
Next chapter Blackbeard turning up and saying room.
Only the real ones recognize you have the best reviews hands down. Keep up the good work
Sawyer, if Shanks can see 10 seconds into the future but can’t see Kid trying to sneak him to then die to black beard I will drop the series. That would be horrendous
Lol, He isn't always on constant future sight, nor does it activate something bad about to happen. During the fight between katakuri and luffy, we see hw FS is used same thing applies to shanks maybe more advanced than kat but works the same way
It’s plausible.
Future Sight can give you tunnel vision.
Like how Kata couldn’t see Brûlée shooting Luffy (with needles despite her being live 30cm from her) because he was focused on fighting luffy .
It’s probably copium at this point but I have faith that the whole Shanks one-shotting Kid thing is just how crazy Shanks’s observation Haki.
It's becoming increasingly apparent that shanks is the lurking legend and will be the biggest obstacle in luffy's path towards getting one piece
You're so wrong Sawyer I think you're trying to prove that you're right
Thank you, Saywer!!!! You have addressed/raised ALL the issues with this Chapter! It was still awesome to see, though! Shanks has always been THAT guy!
Why is people feeling bad for Kidd? I like him as a pirate but buddy definitely killed innocent people lol he had his smoke coming frfr
Looks like he really did stop kaido with force all long lol
Do not pick fight when you know you can't win - Sun Tzu
We saw Luffy temporarily get knocked out many times but he had time to recover,Kidd didn't.Maybe that's the case when you're not the main character
While it's true because Luffy the main character the key reason why he keeps getting up is because he's a zoan user
@@zlPaRaDoXx Oh yeah , forgot about that .Still ,he needed some seconds .
I completely agree with you Sawyer, this chapter asks more questions than gives answers and it throws a lot of previous statements and actions into plot convenience territory
I just noticed that that sentence that Shanks says in the first episode is a quote from Harlock, who is a pirate, with red hair, with a cape, with a scar on the left eye and uses a sword. Just coincidences.
Also Harlock is searching for a mithic treasure that is hidden on a secret planet.
If the one piece ends up beinga an eternal fire that can create things from nothingness then Oda will have literally copied the whole story from Matsumoto,lol.
It’s most likely not a coincidence. Kidd is a play off of the real pirate captain Kid-“the most unlucky pirate ever.” So I can see it being intentional
I also feel like one key detail we're missing is that this is kinda the first time where shanks really had to take someone seriously. Oda made sure to make Shanks take note of his allies being weak, and as soon as Shanks saw into the future, he saw what was potentially going to happen to them. Truth be told, in the last encounter Kidd probably had with Shanks, Shanks didn't have to worry about collateral damage to any weaker crewmates.
Wonder what’s going to happen to Law now😢
Ft😢
Pack up. Being used to service Doc Q as we speak
Perhaps the Divine departure is a technique like Meliodas's full counter from seven deadly sins, which basically sends back any attack to its user. this would explain the damage that Oden received compared to Kidd. Kidd's "damm punk" attack was just too powerful even for Kidd.
It's clearly a Haki blast wtf are you saying.
I wonder what does this mean for Mihawk as well because if he is supposed to be Shank's rival then how strong is he actually.
People bring up the scars shanks got 10+ years ago or more. He clearly became much more powerful than when Blackbeard gave him the scars.
This rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't mind kid losing, but what was the point of one shoting him to show shanks is top teir? I mean, we already knew that. Yes I'm a kid fan and salty right now.
I feel you I’m a kid fan too I already knew he was losing but damn like this Oda messed up for that m
I'm not a big kidd fan but i don't hate him like most people do but hopefully the scar dude they were looking for save kidd and his crew and maybe train him.
I still think Kidd will Haki bloom perhaps which he has yet to learn and get ACOC
@Light Yagami I don't know bro that haki bloom seems to only work for luffy kid fought big mom and didn't get anything in terms of haki.
@@eman3061 I think this is the first time he took a ACOC blow so hopefully it does give him something.
To be honest I think the element of surprise played a role here too. Kidd barely had time to blink before Shanks leaped and divine-departured him and Killer off the race to the One Piece. He also probably used advanced conqueror's and/or advanced armement as well, which we know has greater offensive power than regular conqueror's and armement. Furthermore, Shanks' attack, while clearly inspired by Roger's, could very well be stronger assuming he had time to perfect it and eventually have it surpass that of his Sensei, or it could be that Oden simply had greater endurance than Kidd. I don't think Shanks' reaction was excessive given that he saw what Kidd was capable of and had to end it there and then for him immediately.
You straight up voiced all my thoughts. This K.O just left a very bad taste in my mouth and I couldn't even enjoy it in any way.
It's not rock paper scissors.
It's just good matchups.
For example, when luffy defeated enel, it want because he was stronger or on enel's level. It was just a good natural matchup for Luffy.
Love the oda parallel between kid and luffy look at chapter 513 end it’s the same lol
Blackbeard/crew member/s arriving at Egghead Island basically confirms who Caribou wants to share the secrets he learned about with, unless he has ties to Crocodile or some other major player who knows about Ancient Weapons, which I doubt. It just wouldn't make sense for a non-Yonkou. He probably contacted BB to pick him up.
The biggest question is, who will be there to pick him up?
Kuzan would make sense considering the parallels to Enies Lobby, but I don't see him letting Caribou deliver crucial information about Ancient Weapons to Blackbeard.
Any way you slice it, Oda is faced with leaning into the decision to have Shanks one shot Kid & Killer. Curious to see what he does with it.
I don't think you can power scale Blackbeard and Law to Shanks and Kid because Law and Blackbeard was clash of devil fruits and Blackbeard had no way of predicting what Law's devil fruit attacks or next move was. Shanks had the ability to do that and to end the fight quickly by accurately landing a powerful attack on Kid's rail gun before he could notice he was that close in his range. Kid's rail gun doesn't give him good mobility so it was over once Shanks launched his attack, Kid was focused on destroying Shank's fleet and didn't expect to encounter Shanks that soon.
I loved this it didn't really change anything for me.
Shanks gave me what I thought kaido would be like, using a lot of force up front. I get that Shanks doesn't want any of friends to get hurt so he used one his stronger attacks.
Plus luffy conquerers haki probably not at max since he just got it and its so potent on kaido, what hope did Kid have against COC attacks from shanks.
Damn as a kid fan whos been in denial and cope ever since roofpiece, where it was clear there was a gap between him and luffy, this video fucking hit lmao
I really did believe kid would be luffy's vegeta, its very sad that his buildup was basically pointless
I think Shanks power does make absolute sense, He has the weakest fleet he does not take protection money so much lower resources, he doesn't have an OP DF he has only his main ship and himself.
Shanks biggiest weakness is his fleet, yes his super strong but in all out yonko war he cant protect them all unless he sacrifice heself