it doesnt work that way bcz that would create uncertainty for his title... when oda exclusively reveals that "mihawk sits alone at the top as the WSS" theres no uncertainty, when oda says that "he travels all across the world trying to find worthy opponents, he beat everyone until there was none left" he visited shanks and he reveals that he doesnt see him as a worth opponent and now there are no more worthy challengers SHANKS included, he traveled to visit shanks just to reveal that shanks isnt worthy.... mihawk wants travels all across the world according to author to find worthy opponents, he visits shanks and he reveals that he doesnt see him as a worthy challenger, mihawk is also confirmed to gauge someones power level nearly accurately and we even saw that during baratie when he said to zoro "if u were a prominent swordsman you would be able to understand that i am far stronger" you shanks fans try so desperately to find an excuse for this "has been" fraud... apocalypse is near... get ready
@@okashira073 it doesn’t create uncertainty💀 he does sit at the top of swordsman, both men have become stronger significantly, he bet everyone minus shanks since they stopped dueling since he lost his arm. When he visited shanks he denied a duel because beating a 1 armed man or losing to a 1 armed man is a lose lose situation not because he doesn’t think shanks is “worthy”. The reason he went to see shanks is to show luffys poster not to see if shanks is worthy💀💀💀 considering he denied a fight with shanks at marineford it goes to show how he gauges shanks power. Considering shanks can scare admirals away with conquerors alone and can one hit people who can fight and win against a yonko, goes to show his power level as surpassed him from the past, shanks>mihawk until proven otherwise, all mihawk has is a title, shanks has proven he the goat
13 seconds in and im already hooked. idk why the idea of them being crewmates never crossed my mind. That's probably why he agreed to train zoro, maybe his biggest regret is abandoning his captain
My favorite theory about that is not only did he train Zoro but he also trained Luffy during Marinefold. A lot of people think Katakuri helped Luffy learn to see the future but actually the first time Luffy sees the future (his arm getting cut off) is against Mihawk. Mihawk seemed to be testing him to an extent and it turns out Mihawk probably has the strongest observation haki in the entire series, as seen when he was listening in to the Reverie meeting from his own castle and was able to warn Perona it'd be better if she left (which we later learned was because they abolished the Warlords in that very meeting)
@@bmoney3837that would be dumb. I think shanks is clearly the apex of strength in one piece. Maybe Mihawk and dragon are close but they definitely aren’t stronger
Have you seen Shanks tho? Kid and his crew made Shanks attack them ONCE. Is that all Shanks can do? I really doubt it. We've just seen the first attack from Shanks in the manga against kid. That's all.
Easily one of the best, most interesting and most emotionally resonating theories I've ever seen on One Piece, and I've seen quite a few. This doesn't sound like a fan going "it would be cool if this happened like this", it feels like you connected dots that were always there, but we didn't pay attention to. Awesome job. Also, the timing of your jokes always gets me haha
man i actually love this theory, I could already picture mihawk saying something like "You were always stronger than me from the beginning" after Zoro beats him because he knows how much Zoro has sacrificed for his captain
I can agree and I get the overall message of the story then to sacrifice for others/those you care about. But if true then whether you see Mihawk as taking the wrong path. His path is just as strong if not stronger, most people would give up their dreams and fall into line to stay with the group/friends/family/crew. Few would have the self confidence and perseverance to be alone and follow their dream/s for some/most people like luffy they would rather die then be alone or even quiet, while some enjoy solitude more than others, being alone after being on a crew would hurt and be lonely. Brooke at least lost his crew and then found a new one Mihawk's crew is still alive but can't rejoin them due to principles, Nami/Ussop/Robin/and Sanji almost all went this route, and Zoro chose not too.
@@thewillofdreams6921 while that is somewhat true, the way the story is going. It would prove Zoro really chose the correct path since he’s supposed to surpass Mihawk. Sometimes true strength doesn’t come from your physical power, especially in One Piece. Zoro’s will is so strong that he cast his dream to the side for a time, bowed his head to the man he wants to defeat. In order to serve his captain. So I’d say yes, if this was the case Mihawk’s path still lead him to the crazy strength he has today. But at what cost? Especially when Zoro would be taking the same journey he could/should have and still reaches the same point. Although I believe if this theory does end up being true, the dynamic between shanks and Mihawk is a bit different since they’re both swordsman. Either way I love it and hope it’s true
That is the truth I was talking about all human beings choose what is easiest or what we believe is more important to us. Zoro is not really giving up his dream to ask for mihawks help. Zoro is both putting luffys dream on equal or greater level than his own, but he is no way breaking his original dream/promise, he is simultaneously doing the best thing to achieve both dreams. The best way to get stronger and beat mihawk is to be trained by him and protect luffy/luffys dream. Here's my point about Mihawks possible choice to leave his crew, any other character especially a strawhat would choose death over loosing his crew/friends, doing that would be to tough for them, they are not strong enough to live alone. Mihawk while possibly making a wrong choice, that is his path the tougher path of being alone, this is what I meant by that.
So far we have only seen two pirate crews with dual captains. Dorry+Brogy, who just like Shanks are inspired by norse mythology and are literally allies in the story, and Caribou+Coribou, who share the same X design on their shirts as Mihawk's sword, necklace, and general aesthetic. Put em together and what have you got? Shanks+Mihawk as dual captains of a pirate crew. As foreshadowed by the two swords in Shanks' Jolly Roger despite Shanks being the only major swordsman on the crew.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't a younger Shanks use 2 swords? I'm pretty sure in flashbacks, he had a sword on each hip. Also, as much as I love the Tyr idea, and it really does line up well... Oda didn't want Shanks to lose his arm originally. Maybe he later got inspired by Tyr, but I think it's a coincidence, honestly.
Shanks basically Roger's successor, he using Roger's skill too, imagine if Mihawk is like Rayleigh for Roger and Zoro for Luffy but he quit from there for some unknown reason, the reason why Mihawk always alone that's gonna be shocking backstory
Minor correction but I totally agree with the sentiment, Zoro did not forgo his ambition when he bowed to Mihawk. He found something even more important than it. Zoro still makes sure to emphasize that with the skills he learns from this man he will use it to eventually defeat him and take the seat as the WSS. Most people remember the seriousness of the situation but Oda made sure that we understand Zoro's mentality of not giving up on his ambition. It was funny and even Mihawk was somewhat at loss of words for Zoro's statement for a bit. Lol made for terrific comedy.
@@eijiniizuma6184 True , now that was when Zoro did sacrifice his ambition for his captain's. My man looked straight at death's eyes and well and truly accepted it. As soon a Zoro met Kuma again at Sabody, he first thanks him for his mercy. Zoro is the the defination of Chad
An interesting note is that we pretty much already know the result of their battle: Since we dont only know Mihawk is the strongest swordsman, title that he could have gained later after they stopped dueling; we actually know marines, for some reason, *know* that Mihawk is SPECIFICALLY a better swordsman than Shanks, particularly him, and the only way to know that is a duel. The better swordsman is decided on who wins the duel we know this since chapter 50. Ah, btw, Shanks gaining fame because of dueling Mihawk is an official statement, not fanfic. Mihawk was already famous before Roger died thats also official right now at least. And therefor Shanks who was just a little dude in Roger's crew gaining fame from dueling Mihawk makes total sense. Mihawk has probably allways been his kind of senpai for all we know
Very true. People need to stop separating haki from sword skills. Zoro uses haki all the time when using sword skills against top tiers. Same with Shanks who just freakin did that against Kid. Mihawk would do the same. Whitebeard considered they fights legendary with sword clashes with no haki? That would make no sense. Mihawk is above Shanks.
@@davidortiz3094 The no haki thing is just dumb, how would they not use haki Its just people trying to find something that would prove that Shanks is stronger, but in reality as far as we know Mihawk should have the slight edge
@@laraison6020 yeah shanks was in his prime with 2 hands. even white beard talk about it. It say a lot !! If they were equal, then mihawk shouldnt be number 1. That's logically logic from The logical house... The manga say mihawk is the strongest. what more do you want? an exorcism? You guys have hard time dealing with facts
Great video. I loved the first one and I’m glad you’re bringing it back. The fact that Mihawk even joined Cross Guild goes with this idea. Zoro likely changed Mihawk - and spending time with Perona I’m sure also helped. After spending time with them it’s possible he felt comfortable enough to join an alliance. I don’t think Mihawk would just betray the alliance out of nowhere though. Like Zoro, he seems to be committed to whatever path he chooses. The alliance is also pretty new, like it just happened. We need to spend time understanding cross guild and letting their team up breath before there would be any shake up. Considering it’s possibly first third of the end of the series, I don’t think there is a lot of time to break it up. If this theory were to happen, I think it would have to happen in the final act of the series.
Thanks Doron, I really like your take here on the whole thing, especially the idea of Zoro having chnaged him enough to agree to join Cross Guild in the first place. It also makes me wonder if there’s anything Luffy has managed to teach Shanks. And I agree with you about it being too early to shake things up, but the hypothetical Davy Back fight could play out in a way where Mihawk is swapped to the Red Hair crew only temporarily before somehow being won back by the other side. Multiple rounds in the davy back fight could mean multiple wagers and mixups. 🤔 Just a fun idea to think about even beyond Mihawk
This is a really cool theory. I'm not sure all of it is possible but Mihawk once being a Red Hair Pirate is a good possibility I never thought about much
That Hidden Island vibe is so sweet , the graphics, the mood ,the voice , everything sets my soul to good vibes . i treasure that , but i'm not gonna lie , i'm here because the theories make my one piece mind grind like no other . thank you .
My eyes just watered and goosebumps rushed through my body once you mentioned the davy back fight with cross guild now that chapter 1082 dropped where Buggy told cross guild he wanted to go for the one piece bro this is incredible
Im beyond flabbergasted. THIS channel is easily the TOP one piece channel i’ve ever come across. I can instantly recognise the amount of love, effort, deep thinking and passion went into creating this video. forget the theory, the animations and jazz music alone just does it. I was in the living room late last night laying comfortably on the couch and lemme tell you i felt like i was watching a cinematic MASTERPIECE. the ending with the jazz music made me feel so at ease and leaving with a bittersweet taste of wanting more just like appreciating the small bites of a delicious meal shared with friends and family that makes u want more but also appreciate the fact that it was shared. I cant describe it, simply MAGNIFICENT. Theory wise i’m just with you. you opened my eyes and mind to a lot of things i never thought through. Everything is solid and i’m amazed at how you connected everything. I cant wait to explore your channel further. Keep up the amazing work and keep blessing us with more of your creativity ❤ Much love From a fellow one piece lover
When you talked about how Luffy and Zoro parallel Shanks and Mihawk, something came to mind. Nami and Buggy have this same connection. - Buggy is one of the few pirates to be associated with maps at all in this series. - Buggy's stated goal is to collect every treasure in the East Blue - Buggy STEALS credit from other pirates. Nami was a thief that stole from pirates. - Nami and Buggy are both easily the weakest out of their trio. - Both Nami and Buggy had a strong initial reaction against joining Luffy or Shank's crew, for very different reasons. - In the manga, Nami is first introduced in the same arc as Buggy, even if she doesn't join up till Arlong. I know its not really relevant to the rest of the theory, but its still interesting, I think. Thanks for giving me new insight on the characters.
Some people think that the reason buggy and shanks fell out was because shanks lost his will to look for the muguffin, and thats why later; they dont act viloent, buggy is resentful, and shanks is nutral. So I guess we could kickout the meat dude, and have buggy replace him?
I think shanks tried to recruit mihawk, remember that he was looking ppl for their names , mihawk probably refused, and promised that if he defeated mihawk in a fight , he would join him , but they never defeated each other.
@@ΚρανίΩ definitely lol 😆 shanks and mihawk have this kinda of rivalry , mihawk literally crossed the world from the east blue just to see and show shanks , luffy first bounty, he cares a lot about him .
@davidortiz3094 no , when mihawk arrived to shanks.. shanks said he is in a bad mood and you came to challenge me.. Knowing mihawks personality why would we challenge a person he already defeated?? Since even shanks doesn't want to be a worlds strongest swordsman?? That means in their last encounter either shanks won or it was a draw. Since mihawk is the world's strongest he wouldn't lose which means it's most certainly a draw
Mihawk's vivre card tells us he was famous before Roger died. He became a warlord to freely roam the sea even though he didn't have a crew. I don't see a possibility of Mihawks joining Shanks crew if Shanks couldn't defeat him.
@@light4008 What do you guys mean? Everything is possible that Mihawk is now in the game.. What if they play a davy back fight Shanks vs Buggy? Or Shanks vs Luffy..etc.
Just imagine a very important characteres and plot lines get decided by stupid pirate game Luffy fighting shanks don't have anything to do with hating him or not having friendly relationship and in 1100 chapter there's no character that died in fight Roger and WB fought and they were friends even in real life pro fighters don't hate their opponents @@Stefan0v1
For me, Mihawk is alone because he is a swordsman first before he is a pirate, whereas Shanks is a pirate first before he is a swordsman. For Mihawk to be the WSS he should travel all around the world to challenge every swordsman that pops up all around and beat them to prove he is the strongest. That is why I think this is the reason why there's no WSS in the previous era, cause no one wanted to do that alone. Cause let's face it, no one wants to travel the world alone, and no one would want to join you to just challenge someone. Everyone would want to be in a crew and gather treasures and live the life not going from coast to coast to fulfill ones dream. And that is the reason Mihawk had to do that to fulfill his goal. And Zoro is lucky enough to not have to do that and just challenge the current holder for the title when he's ready. Maybe the last WSS was Ryuma and the title died with him cause nobody beat him, then after that no one has the motivation to put in the workload of traveling the world alone. Mihawk couldn't been with Shanks and pirating cause he had to be dueling swordsman not fighting pirates to claim the title. Zoro could do that because there is a title holder.
What if Mihawk actually made the same decision zoro made. It’s possible Mihawk bought in to shanks’ dream and wanted to help him achieve it. When Shanks returned from the East Blue with a missing arm, Mihawk may have felt disrespected that the man he abandoned his dream for, had entrusted someone else with it. Shanks losing his arm for luffy may have been the catalyst for Mihawk leaving the red hair pirates. This would make Mihawk meeting luffy, reuniting with Shanks after first bounty, and zoro begging him for training hold even more weight
i've been lucky enough to receive one of your "giftsub" during the epic 1079 live react , wich is followed by this classy theory video . what a day man . thank you
Lucky Roux is a Cook, and he's also the one who originally acquired the Gomu Gomu no Mi from an enemy ship for Shanks. He's definitely one of the strongest crewmembers, being said to be a main combatant for the crew. The top 3 is definitely: Beckmann as #1, and either Yasopp or Lucky coming in #2 with the weaker of the two coming in 3rd place. Since Lucky Roux is a cook I see him fighting Sanji. Red Hair Pirates strength: 1. Shanks 2. Benn Beckmann 3. Yasopp / Lucky Roux 4. Yasopp / Lucky Roux And the rest of the crew probably comes after these 4 in strength imo. I think Jinbe would fight either Building Snake or Gab, because they're big guys. Usopp gonna get a powerup in Elbaf and that's how he can surpass Yasopp. There's no proof that they will fight, but Usopp definitely needs atleast one sniper fight. He HAS to either fight Van Augur or Yasopp, OR BOTH!
if you look at the crossguild. wich would probably join the fight. buggy and crocodile could also make matchups for other strawhats. buggy would make great sense for brook and crocodile is great for robin.
I love how symbolism heavy your theory is, and how probable most of the terminology related stringboarding sounds. With Oda and word association, I learned one thing: if it sounds outlandish, it's probably true. Great narrative detective work going on here.
Thank you! A lot of work went into connecting the dots, and whether or not it ends up being true I think more than anything it speaks to the layered nature of Oda’s writing. More where that came from, thanks for watching!
That was absolutely insanely good. I am in shock, I am in awe. I have always wanted to come up with a really good theory like this, and seeing all the research and scrutinizing you did to come up with this is just inspiring. Amazing work!
The whole theory is hinged on the assumption that Mihawk needs to have been a part of some pirate crew, in order to get strong enough to then go solo. IMO there is no evidence for this at all. There are literally admiral level guys walking around the world of one piece who were never even pirates, like Fujitora and Greenbull, who were already strong enough to fight at that level, before they got drafted into the Navy. Oden was a solo one man army from a young age, strong enough to clash with Whitebeard, before he even knew what pirates were. The legendary Ryuuma was just a swordsman from Wano. Kaido was a child when he attacked Marines just to eat, and then break himself out, and was just used by his country like a tool. Most likely Mihawk is just another freak of nature. No reason he couldn't have been doing what Kaido was doing, and just attacking Marines and getting away with it. If Oden set out on a boat by himself, how many people are stopping him? Makes sense to assume that the man known as the greatest swordsman would have even more natural talent/strength. All these theories are interesting, but just seem like mental gymnastics to somehow put Shanks over Mihawk, when the most obvious answer is right in the story and the databooks. They used to duel, Shanks lost his arm, Mihawk lost interest. He's the strongest swordsman, Shanks isn't. It's almost like people start with 'Shanks HAS to be stronger, so let's come up with a theory that somehow makes this plausible'. Simple answer: Mihawk is the stronger fighter of the 2, Shanks is the better pirate. One thing people bring up is Shanks/Luffy, and Mihawk/Zoro parallels, but Zoro's rival being stronger than Shanks doesn't undermine Luffy, because Shanks is not the final antagonist, most likely Blackbeard, or Imu is. Zoro surpassing both Shanks and Mihawk doesn't undermine Luffy's strength, because ultimately he will have to face Blackbeard, or maybe even Akainu to avenge Ace
Fujitora and Greenbull haven’t had their backstories revealed yet. Oden got one-shot by Roger and he got beat by Whitebeard in a handful of attacks. Ryuma never ventured into the grand line which was a key point to this video. Without a crew, would Ryuma even be able to navigate a ship or treat his own wounds? No info given about Ryuma indicates this. Kaido broke out of navy ships but Luffy was breaking out of navy bases in the first couple chapters. Oda never stated Kaido was yonko level from day one. For all you know, it could have been Axe Hand Morgan level ships. The only way Mihawk could have been a one-crew man from the start is with incredible luck. Even to this day, if something comes up that is outside of swordsmanship, Mihawk would have to defer to someone else.
I don't think Shanks was ever that strong to begin with, he's mostly smart like Law, not a fighting meathead like Luffy or Kid. I think when he met Kaido before marineford he didn't stop him by force like most think, I don't think he could (unless he has some ancient weapon or smth). At this point, Luffy defeating Kaido already puts him above Shanks if we do proper powerscaling.
@@Oats95 He lost to the 2 strongest characters in the show, so what? Whitebeard told his crewmates to stand back, because he was the only one who could handle Oden, that tells you everything you need to know. Oden was one of the strongest men in the world before he even set foot off his island. You're talking like it's some wild idea for a man to sail solo, when people are literally doing that in real life. You think Mihawk couldn't do some first aid on himself if he had to? Of course Kaido wasn't born with the strength of a Yonko, nobody ever said that... What I said was Kaido even as a kid could survive by himself and do whatever he wanted without a crew, so why wouldn't the most gifted swordsman. We don't need to know Fujitora and Greenbulls backstories, that's completely irrelevant to the argument, what we know is they are strong as fuck and they were obviously never pirates, so you don't need to be on a pirate crew to be strong, that's the argument.
@@Rujewitbloodok so what happens when a starting out pirate mihawk is caught in a grand line thunderstorm, on his own, on his little boat without any knowledge on shipwrighting or navigation? What if he catches a sickness? What will he eat? So many different scenarios on the grand line that cant be overcome by just being strong, thats why people form crews in the first place, people with different skills to offer in different situations
The funny thing is that I had almost this exact theory myself when the manga was around WCI. Not the Mihawk being part of Shank's crew part, but the Sanji fighting Benn Beckman whilst Zoro fights Mihawk. The reason being is not just because Benn's from the North Blue, Smokes, loves women, and is intelligent, but because like Sanji his character is represented as the "Moon" to their Captain's "Sun".
I'm late to the channel and to One Piece. I only recently decided to watch the anime and I'm not disappointed. I love your channel, as well. As a guy who grew up in the 70s and 80s I was mostly outside with all the other kids of our era. This led to interaction, as well as not a small amount of bulkying when you are the smallest kud in your school, which I was. Even the girls were bigger than me. I had a frenemy, Kevin O., we hung out all the time but it took me years to realize that Kevin only wanted me there to make himself feel bigger. That hurt A LOT. Eventually things occurred that I'm both proud about and embarrassed by, but, by overcoming my rival I took a step... And 30 years later, I see it was the first step on my road to personal strength and security. I really don't know who I would be without the lessons I learned from my "friendship" and ultimate triumph over him. I think about Kevin once in a while but I'm generally having too much fun in my old age with my soul mate and biggest supporter, my wife Jamie. Also, as a 52 year old man I am very aware thatI am at a point in life you put your dreams into the hands of the young. My grandkids are going to get some great dreams from me.
My theory is that shanks went to recruit mihawk for his crew but mihawk not wanting to live that life made a bet with shanks, if shanks beats him in a duel then he would join his crew and then as a result they had many duels.
Mihawk fans are a joke 🤣🤣 oda gave out a huge clue to their power levels and yall ain't catch on. Shanks clears and has never lost to mihawk. Mihawk was handed the world's strongest swordsman when shanks lost his arm. Mihawk got his first and only win off of shanks due to technicality.
I like the thought that Mihawk is interested in Zoro because he sees it as an opportunity to test his decision to stick to his pride. Was it the right choice, or did he miss out on something when he cut himself off from a crew? A thought to entertain him after years of boredom. In the world of One Piece the answer is kinda obvious. Zoro's going to take the title because friendship. Presented to be far more entertaining than that sentence would make it seem I'm sure.
The Davy Back is a perfect piece to put this old theory together. To me it always was the tragic tale of a deep friendship, mistakes, and men too proud to apologise. A story which we almost saw again in Water7. But this way, in a Davy Back, theres no reason to apologise; you just have to follow the rules. Just the imagination of Shanks and Mihawk fighting side by side gives me the chills! It would probably be so natural and mutual that itll be greater than any possible words.
I think the best element that you pointed out was Zoro's clear intent that if Luffy couldn't lead correctly he would be out. I really feel like an occurrence like this is what drove that split between mihawk and shanks. Forcing yourself to get better to face someone who's leadership you don't believe in rather he do it from his own ambition.
Zoro says the following during his first meeting with Luffy upon agreeing to join him "If you do anything that will prevent me from achieving my goal Ill kill you" Zoro CHOSE to forego his dream in favor of Luffy during Thriller Bark thus completing his character arc,he made the sacrifice Mihawk was unable to match.
@@eijiniizuma6184 Or Shanks actually did something that broke Mihawks trust. You’ll not even in Thriller Bark Zoro did not give up on his dream or do something that got in the way of it. Nor did Luffy. In fact, it’s likely without that Zoro would be nowhere near to his dream as he is now.
It's even more interesting now that we know Buggy is a precedent in Shanks disapointing his camarade. Shanks was a guy with great potential who chose to hold back, and haven't been pursuing what he should have been pursuing for many year. It didn't sit well with Buggy, it may have not sit well with Mihawks either.
Dude i have become obsessed with your theories. Thanks for the content. The analysing you make to real world people and specific points in the story itself is amazing .
I guess if we are making parallels to Nordic themes. Shanks is basically Tyr the one armed God of War, Law and Justice. Tyr gave his arm so that the Great Wolf Fenrir was bound thus saving the 9 realms, while Shanks gives up his arm so that the future generation may become free.
Imo Sanji vs Lucky Roux makes a lot of sense. They're both the cooks of their respective crews. And if I'm not mistaken Lucky Roux is rumored to be one of the fastest people in the One Piece world. So those two match up pretty well. Love the video!
MiHawk isn’t weak for pursuing his own dream. His dream simply ends with him being alone… This has always been a recurring theme in stories about people who always want to be the best, the strongest, the fastest, the richest. They are HYPER competitive- living for nothing but the competition- and that single-minded competitiveness tends to push away the people around you till your alone. As they say…the fastest runner runs alone. Me, personally, I always look for subtext and so I wonder… A person with such a strong will like Zoro. Did he really give up on his dream or did he realize his ACTUAL dream? Zoro stared that his goal was to be the best swordsman, but I don’t think that’s what he really wanted or he would have NEVER given up on it. Zoro’s will might be something as simple as serving a greater cause- which he os willing to die for. It’s what actual samurai’s do. And his devotion to the sword…a sword is nothing in and of itself. It is a tool that serves the wielder. Mihawk might be sad about the turn out, but he would do it again. Because that’s how strong HIS will is and thar’s the path he chose, for better or worse.
I don't get the notion that zoro actually gave up on being the strongest swordman , just bc he swallowed his pride to ask for him to train him doesn't mean he won't still aim to defeat him nor that his dream isn't still to be the strongest swordman zoro simply places his responsibilities has right hand to luffy above his personal goals when he feel he needs to , it's actually luffy said after zoro lost to mihawk "the pirate King wouldn't have anything but the best" if anything the crew needing zoro to bc the strongest swordman in his mind just adds to his ambition
I hate how ppl are downplaying mihawak when all of the strong ass people that has known shanks would tell them that they know him bcus of his duel with mihawk. Time and time again this was shown and told by strong people when they talk about shanks. It was first mentioned by the strongest man WB. Thats literally the only thing he remembered about shanks including him being with roger. That should have been a dead give away that mihawk is crazy strong. It was also mentioned again in wano arc when they talk about shanks and their duel was mentioned again as some kind of feat.
And ppl should also remember that zorro having conquerors haki the strong ass people have told him that he also has kingly ambition. Kingly ambition. Being the worlds strongest swordsman is considered a kingly ambition just like being the pirate king. Let that sink in.
I'm going back and watching/commenting on old vids, and I gotta say: for the Beckman/Sanji comparison, as an insane story crafter myself inspired by Oda, Andrew Hussie, and Archie Sonic, that is EXACTLY how it works. You come up with ideas and you like them a ton and push them to the front of the story, but as you expand the world, some ideas stop working or get replaced, but the ones you like remain and just get stuck elsewhere. It makes a lot of sense that original Sanji from RD would be split in half, traits now shared and split between two new characters, and turned into a rivalry for later in the story, allowing it to have tons of room to breathe and get a proper spotlight because the original idea was beloved so much. All that is to say yeah, I agree that the Sanji-Beckman connection is very strong.
Really good theory! I like it, and there's good merit to the points. I would be very glad to see this play out, it adds layers to both characters. But I think in terms of his theming and styling there could be a good possibility he was one of the less known members of the rocks pirates as well ( with the marine hunter moniker). But I only base that on the themes, you bring very good points to support it! :D
You make great character-based theories man! Keep it up, very different from the other theories out there. Makes me really appreciate the character side of one piece more.
This channel is a gem. I understand that these videos take inspiration from other theories, but the hardest part is stitching it together. Keep it up man, your videos are really fucking good.
How does this not have that many views we need to let this man into the REVERIE, dude could go toe to toe with the heavy hitters ie. Vinland D Ragnar, Ohara, BDA Law, Syv and many OP creators
this is the best and well-reasoned theory i have yet seen about OP in general. I loved the idea of a davy-back fight, and even though i find this in particular highly unlikely, mainly because i want another outcome, i feel like Long-ring-long arc was there for a reason and knowing Oda this will have to do alot with one piece endgame. Another fact i love is how u described the Shabnks-mihawk rivalry going on for so long and with only zoro being able to maybe make mihawk question his deeds of (potentially) abaonding his crew for his sole ambition. Like the fact he laughed and said things. U put in in a-whole-nother perspective for me.
When you put it like that, this kind of explains why Mihawk said to Zoro "When a man like you swallows his pride, it's always for someone else" in the anime (episode 515 I think), in reference to Zoro training to become stronger for Luffy during the timeskip and foregoing his own dream to become the world's greatest swordsman. Mihawk was probably referring to Shanks sacrificing his own goal (maybe world's greatest swordsman, who knows) and betting on Luffy and his generation to bring the dawn.
Man, your videos are outstanding. Not just the information, but also how it's put together and presented. To the point where I'd say you're my personal favorite One Piece content creator. There's a lot of other creators that are quality, but you've got a style and voice that gives you the edge. Take it easy man, and good job.
I always thought Sanji vs Roux made a lot of sense because they’re both cooks and _really_ fast. And that nami beck made sense because they’re both supposed to be the smartest of their crew and the most reasonable. But beck sanji does also make a lot of sense
@@zoovaado7759 yeah, that’s true, but nami has the edge in terms of being able to keep luffy in check. Even though Robin is smarter and more mature she won’t really get in Luffys way even if he wants to do something dumb, she’ll go along with it. Where as nami is just more known for trying to stop him and trying to explain why he should or shouldn’t do xyz. Kind of how like chopper and Franky are very smart too in different ways, or how Hongo is really smart but of course not the same voice of reason as Beckmann though. The matchup just always made sense in my head but I agree it’s not perfect
Only problem with the Nami Beck thing is that beck the second in command currently and probably the second strongest. Nami is in the bottom 3 of the straw hats when it comes to strength
I have always liked your theories bro theirs just so grounded with what’s available in the story I may be lurking the comments time to time but I always make sure to show support
- 18:12 In the Ace Novels, it tells us that Shanks gained his initial fame from duels with Mihawk, so your first rebuttal is immediately null and void - 19:01 It’s not important to sail the seas alone, Mihawk in his introduction told Zoro the East Blue is the weakest of the 4 seas, this implies Mihawk is a well-traversed man who’s been everywhere seeking challenges. He is also stated in his vivrecard that he trained tremendously and challenged more and more powerful foes. This also implies that he sailed the Grand Line as well as the new world (things he is currently doing). To assume he can’t because “there’s no way” isn’t a strong argument Don’t mind your theory, actually I like it but some of the common rebuttals against it are valid in my opinion
1. The point was moreso to disprove that lower fame or higher age than your captain is a prerequisite to join a crew, which that detail doesn't seem to disprove. That detail is interesting however, and does make it more difficult to timeline but not impossible. Might not have nailed every detail on the order of events, but hopefully my video is at least a good jumping off point. 2. This doesn't really make sense to me as a counter argument. The burden is on you, not me, to prove that someone can climb to the top of the pirate world in the grand line completely alone without any crew or help whatsover. There is no example of this anywhere in the story, and I'm following the examples set by the greatest pirates ever stated to live. I doubt Mihawk is a more seasoned warrior than all of them. The argument is based on precedent and context, which I think is as strong of an argument as you can get in an ongoing fictional story. Appreciate the rebuttals to my rebuttals lmao, hopefully this helped clear up my thoughts. Thanks for watching!
You could be seeing what you want to see, and I would like to see it as well. In reality, Oda will give us something and it will all click, whatever he has in store for Mihawk and Shanks will be awesome.
How happy am I that my favorite theory of yours is not only still kicking around but now bigger and better than ever? Very happy! Shanks waiting for Luffy to reach his level just as Mihawk is waiting for Zoro makes so much sense. (grey_em)
Shanks Feats: - Looked into the future and changed it by Neg diffing Kid and Killer in one shot after speed blitzing them while simultaniously knocking out half of kids crew with collateral coc. - Discord coc‘d Greenbull and scared him away after Greenbull defeated King and Queen with ease and fought against yamato Momonosuke and a few scabbards and had the upper hand. - Easily blocked a direct attack from Akainu point blank who is said to have the strongest offensive df power in the verse and made him sweat. (He is literally Magma) - Had a scuffle with Kaido and prevented him from going to Marineford - Clashed with Whitebeard and split the sky - Scared away Blackbeard who was willing to take on the whitebeard pirates and the Marines and even fighting on par with garp and sengoku after killing whitebeard - Had legendary duels with Mihawk over 12 years ago when he wasnt even a yonko and had a bounty of max 1B. Mihawk Feats: - Fought Shanks on equal terms over 12 years ago when Shanks wasnt a yonko and had a bounty of maximum 1 Billion - Overpowered pre TS Jinbei - Fought on par with Vista - Clashed with pre TS Crocodile - Defeated Don Krieg - Defeated East Blue Zoro - Got his sword strike deflected by Jozu while Whitebeard wasnt even worried - Scared a bunch of Baboons - Bullied Buggy together with Crocodile in the Cross Guild - Sliced a frozen wave in half - Did 0 damage with his sword skills to Buggy in Marineford - Dipped when Shanks arrived Now you tell me who has the better feats and who probably is the stronger character
@@jordancave3089 no it isn’t it’s a Bisento which is a polearm not a sword and don’t use the argument that it’s a supreme blade because as we learn in wano the those classifications can apply to spears we even see a bisento in the background while the smith is explaining it
5:20 damn i posted this on reddit few days ago, whitebeard clearly showed some respect to mihawk there. He even was talking shit about the admirals while being infront of them but never did he disrespect mihawk even after mihawk attacked him.
Imagine having higher bounty than your captain ☠️☠️☠️ Poor Buggy, he probably shakes before knocking on Mihawk's door and then finds himself in Dracula's scary vampire room every time he wants to ask him sth. Either way, Mihawk's style reminds me of Moria, perhaps he once was in his crew and then quit because Moria is lame.
I mean, or we can just go by what the man said...... He doesn't think Shanks is up to snuff because he lost his arm. Pretty straight forward and easy explanation instead of a bunch of headcannon seemingly out of thin air.
If I’m not mistaken wasnt Mihawk already the strongest swordsman even at Rogers execution we saw him. I think it was revealed in an SBS that shanks gained his notoriety from his battles with Mihawk
I dont think he was the strongest at Rogers execution, he looked really young then, but he did have the black blade so who knows. I'm not sure if that scene was anime only though
@@pranomadityagogoi8046 in the flashback it looks the same as it does now, but I guess we don't know what the sword originally looked like so i guess you're right
What an amazing theory! Everyone is focused on the "big" secrets in one piece like The meaning of the D and so on but I really enjoy watching these theories a lot. Your voice, how you put 1 and 1 together and even how you respond to common doubts - amazing piece of work!
I finally got a good explanation about shanks giving up his arm. Curious to know how Oda draws it, but I gotta say this makes the most sense. When hawk eye gave shanks the Luffy poster pre time skip how did he know how to find Shanks? Especially if he is so elusive. He has to have a vivre card. Why would he have a vivre card? these questions I asked my self, and this theory explains it in a way that ties everything together.
im confused now tho why isnt mihawk present before shanks loses an arm? ik we figured out recently that the red hair crew only assembles rarely or something like that but they werent even close to being a yonko crew yet so theyd presumbably be together at all times
ok i dont think its very likely but the comparisons are so cool and the more you talked about comparisons and connections the more i wanted this to be true
I think Mihawk trained Shanks to beat him. There’s got to be a reason why Shanks is known for killing Future Sight. I think they had their fight and Shanks almost won. And then he lost an arm. So Mihawk never got to have a final match where he would be beaten, I think this mostly because I like the idea of Shanks just begging Mihawk for matches and Mihawk being grumpy about it. Before relenting. I also think they fought after Shanks lost an arm. After all, Shanks did say ‘are you here to ask for a fight?’ Feels like they’ve had that exchange a few times since Shanks lost his arm? Probably ended up with them both drinking. Exactly like thr first time we saw them.
Nami feels a bit forced in this parallel so I think the only change I would make is slotting Jimbei in her place VS Lucky Roux which makes a bit more sense to me with their proportions somewhat mirroring each other. Remember that Jimbei will need a potential opponent in this situation and I think a grand Sumo style battle with Lucky Roux works wonderfully for the two of them.
@@seancollins6572we really don't know much about lucky rou so yeah just the body shape for now. Although I heard he's the fastest man in one piece. So I don't know how jimbei counters that. Regarding this I have a better match up though: Brook vs lucky, completely opposite body proportions and both are extremely fast at close range.
I love your vids because I feel like a ton of theories are super outlandish or rely on something i don't really like like connecting numbers. Your theories always sound so plausible and like Oda's writing style. This video is no exception this could absolutely be true
I think Mihawk and Shanks are basically Equal , They are like Roger & Whitebeard , I think neither of them have defeated eachother. Now you would think then that would mean Mihawks title is fake and not complete , Here's why I say that's false and how I think Mihawk became the WSS after ending his rivarly with Shanks. Mihawk achieved a Black blade. Shanks hasn't, after their rivarly ended Mihawk achieved the pinnacle and " secret " of swordsmanship , Being the " Red Haired Emperors Rival , Drawn with him and achieving a Black Blade when the Emperor hasn't , That's what made Mihawk the World's Strongest Swordsman , People acknowledged that Mihawk achieved greater Swordsmanship than Shanks because of the Black blade. This is also why the marines said Mihawk has Greater sword skill than even the Red Haired Emepror , This also means that the only Swordsman capable of fighting Mihawk to the death is actually only Shanks , The marines never said Big Mom , Or Rayleigh , They were basically saying Mihawk and Shanks are the two strongest swordsmen in the world.
I actually think Buggy will win the Davy back fight and as his choice for new crew man he'll choose Shanks which will automatically make the rest of the crew join. Thus causing him to fall upwards once again.
if you look at the crossguild. wich would probably join the fight. buggy and crocodile could also make matchups for other strawhats. buggy would make great sense for brook and crocodile is great for robin.
I interpreted mihawks anger as offence that Shanks didn’t value their rivalry and being the best swordsman above all else, hence why Mihawk seems bored all the time. He seems starved of someone worthy of battling him, going in so far as to train Zoro just to see how much he could grow and to test the theory that wanting to become stronger for someone else’s dream will allow Zoro to surpass him. Mihawk is a fascinating character. Oda has written him so well because it’s all implied, not stated.
Love this theory and fingers crossed its correct. Would be an amazing arc but do you think black beard or the elders will be the last obstacle? I hope its black beard but i think it could be either tbh 😅
This is a dope theory I love it Mihawk being the original first mate of the red hair pirates is so cool and it makes sense especially the five matches with the original crew members
Expanding off of the rivalry between Shanks and Mihawk, there was one idea that came to my mind. But first, if you take a look back at when Shanks was at Wano, he was able to cancel out haki. This reveal was pretty huge imo as we don't know any other character in the series that can do such a thing with haki. Now, with Mihawk, he clearly is based on a vampire given his "Dracule"/"Dracula" name, his actual appearance, and also his spooky looking island. So, what if Mihawk is actually able to absorb haki similar to that of a vampire absorbing your blood aka your life force. This could explain why he considered Shanks his true rival as well. This is because no matter how much haki Shanks used against Mihawk, he would just absorb it all and possibly throw it right back at Shanks. However, no matter how much haki Mihawk absorbs and throws back, Shanks can cancel it out with his own nullifaction abilities. This makes them the perfect rivals since they can have a fair sword fight as true swordsmen with no haki or devil fruits involved. But, with Shanks losing his arm, it would add to why Mihawk lost interest since Shanks wouldn't be able to hold his own against him in an actual sword fight with no haki or devil fruit powers anymore
@@SoothingMusic883 It was revealed in his Vivre Card that Shanks is known for being the "Killer of Observation Haki" and I think it's based on the fact that his Conqueror's Haki is just powerful enough to cancel out someone from using their future sight against him. It would have been during the time he scared off Greenbull as well. Even if he didn't use it against Greenbull in Wano, it was already confirmed that Shanks has the ability to cancel out haki anyway
@@shimahdah I really like this and it does give respect to the title "the killer of Observation Haki" but Shanks can only cancel out future sight, or so it says. I read someone commented that this could be why Kaido didn’t use future sight all that much, seeing that there already was a person capable of canceling out future sight. I will say that with Hawkeyes, Mihawk probably uses a lot of wild haki infused techniques and with Shanks canceling the future sight, it only lays credence to how precise Mihawk can strike even without knowing the future; he is raw skill.
In my opinion, Mihawk took the loss of Shanks' arm as an insult to their rivalry, and hence refuses to duel him anymore
it doesnt work that way bcz that would create uncertainty for his title... when oda exclusively reveals that "mihawk sits alone at the top as the WSS" theres no uncertainty, when oda says that "he travels all across the world trying to find worthy opponents, he beat everyone until there was none left"
he visited shanks and he reveals that he doesnt see him as a worth opponent and now there are no more worthy challengers SHANKS included, he traveled to visit shanks just to reveal that shanks isnt worthy.... mihawk wants travels all across the world according to author to find worthy opponents, he visits shanks and he reveals that he doesnt see him as a worthy challenger, mihawk is also confirmed to gauge someones power level nearly accurately and we even saw that during baratie when he said to zoro "if u were a prominent swordsman you would be able to understand that i am far stronger"
you shanks fans try so desperately to find an excuse for this "has been" fraud... apocalypse is near... get ready
@@okashira073 this sums it up perfectly
@@okashira073 it doesn’t create uncertainty💀 he does sit at the top of swordsman, both men have become stronger significantly, he bet everyone minus shanks since they stopped dueling since he lost his arm. When he visited shanks he denied a duel because beating a 1 armed man or losing to a 1 armed man is a lose lose situation not because he doesn’t think shanks is “worthy”. The reason he went to see shanks is to show luffys poster not to see if shanks is worthy💀💀💀 considering he denied a fight with shanks at marineford it goes to show how he gauges shanks power.
Considering shanks can scare admirals away with conquerors alone and can one hit people who can fight and win against a yonko, goes to show his power level as surpassed him from the past, shanks>mihawk until proven otherwise, all mihawk has is a title, shanks has proven he the goat
@@sagepope6985so you think shanks is the strongest swordsmen ???
@@sagepope6985if shanks is the strongest swordsmen Zoros is a whole fraud. He should have gotten trained by shanks and Zoros final enemy is shanks.
13 seconds in and im already hooked. idk why the idea of them being crewmates never crossed my mind. That's probably why he agreed to train zoro, maybe his biggest regret is abandoning his captain
LMAOO😭💀
@@kingj.4432 update 9 minutes an it’s def a banger
Extra 2 secs
it never crossed your mind, because it makes no fucking sense lol
My favorite theory about that is not only did he train Zoro but he also trained Luffy during Marinefold. A lot of people think Katakuri helped Luffy learn to see the future but actually the first time Luffy sees the future (his arm getting cut off) is against Mihawk. Mihawk seemed to be testing him to an extent and it turns out Mihawk probably has the strongest observation haki in the entire series, as seen when he was listening in to the Reverie meeting from his own castle and was able to warn Perona it'd be better if she left (which we later learned was because they abolished the Warlords in that very meeting)
I've seen Shanks, I've seen Garp but I yet waiting for Dragon and Dracule to really show their true strength
more likely means they are stronger
Dragon has ancient dragon devil fruit wind god/
@@bmoney3837that would be dumb. I think shanks is clearly the apex of strength in one piece. Maybe Mihawk and dragon are close but they definitely aren’t stronger
@@cxleey😂
Have you seen Shanks tho? Kid and his crew made Shanks attack them ONCE. Is that all Shanks can do? I really doubt it. We've just seen the first attack from Shanks in the manga against kid. That's all.
Easily one of the best, most interesting and most emotionally resonating theories I've ever seen on One Piece, and I've seen quite a few. This doesn't sound like a fan going "it would be cool if this happened like this", it feels like you connected dots that were always there, but we didn't pay attention to.
Awesome job. Also, the timing of your jokes always gets me haha
Mihawk Earned Hus Title During Gold Roger's Era
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I was about to leave this exact comment, this theory hits every point it’s supposed to and leaves nothing out
@@jojo9993 Hus on first, Wats on Second.
@@lanmandragoran8337 nice reference lol
man i actually love this theory, I could already picture mihawk saying something like "You were always stronger than me from the beginning" after Zoro beats him because he knows how much Zoro has sacrificed for his captain
Chills 🥵🔥🔥
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I can agree and I get the overall message of the story then to sacrifice for others/those you care about. But if true then whether you see Mihawk as taking the wrong path. His path is just as strong if not stronger, most people would give up their dreams and fall into line to stay with the group/friends/family/crew.
Few would have the self confidence and perseverance to be alone and follow their dream/s for some/most people like luffy they would rather die then be alone or even quiet, while some enjoy solitude more than others, being alone after being on a crew would hurt and be lonely.
Brooke at least lost his crew and then found a new one Mihawk's crew is still alive but can't rejoin them due to principles, Nami/Ussop/Robin/and Sanji almost all went this route, and Zoro chose not too.
@@thewillofdreams6921 while that is somewhat true, the way the story is going. It would prove Zoro really chose the correct path since he’s supposed to surpass Mihawk. Sometimes true strength doesn’t come from your physical power, especially in One Piece.
Zoro’s will is so strong that he cast his dream to the side for a time, bowed his head to the man he wants to defeat. In order to serve his captain.
So I’d say yes, if this was the case Mihawk’s path still lead him to the crazy strength he has today. But at what cost? Especially when Zoro would be taking the same journey he could/should have and still reaches the same point.
Although I believe if this theory does end up being true, the dynamic between shanks and Mihawk is a bit different since they’re both swordsman. Either way I love it and hope it’s true
That is the truth I was talking about all human beings choose what is easiest or what we believe is more important to us.
Zoro is not really giving up his dream to ask for mihawks help. Zoro is both putting luffys dream on equal or greater level than his own, but he is no way breaking his original dream/promise, he is simultaneously doing the best thing to achieve both dreams. The best way to get stronger and beat mihawk is to be trained by him and protect luffy/luffys dream.
Here's my point about Mihawks possible choice to leave his crew, any other character especially a strawhat would choose death over loosing his crew/friends, doing that would be to tough for them, they are not strong enough to live alone. Mihawk while possibly making a wrong choice, that is his path the tougher path of being alone, this is what I meant by that.
HOLY SHIT WHEN YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT FOXY I ACTUALLY DROPPED MY PHONE DOWN AND TOOK A WALK TO CALM DOWN THATS SO GOOD
So far we have only seen two pirate crews with dual captains. Dorry+Brogy, who just like Shanks are inspired by norse mythology and are literally allies in the story, and Caribou+Coribou, who share the same X design on their shirts as Mihawk's sword, necklace, and general aesthetic.
Put em together and what have you got? Shanks+Mihawk as dual captains of a pirate crew. As foreshadowed by the two swords in Shanks' Jolly Roger despite Shanks being the only major swordsman on the crew.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't a younger Shanks use 2 swords? I'm pretty sure in flashbacks, he had a sword on each hip.
Also, as much as I love the Tyr idea, and it really does line up well... Oda didn't want Shanks to lose his arm originally. Maybe he later got inspired by Tyr, but I think it's a coincidence, honestly.
its kinda funny how the decalvin brothers who seem to be the most likely to be dual cpatains arent
There’s another guy who uses a sword on Shanks crew. He appears in the latest chapter. He throws Shanks the intel on kid.
“X design” bro it’s a cross
Shanks basically Roger's successor, he using Roger's skill too, imagine if Mihawk is like Rayleigh for Roger and Zoro for Luffy but he quit from there for some unknown reason, the reason why Mihawk always alone that's gonna be shocking backstory
Minor correction but I totally agree with the sentiment, Zoro did not forgo his ambition when he bowed to Mihawk. He found something even more important than it. Zoro still makes sure to emphasize that with the skills he learns from this man he will use it to eventually defeat him and take the seat as the WSS.
Most people remember the seriousness of the situation but Oda made sure that we understand Zoro's mentality of not giving up on his ambition. It was funny and even Mihawk was somewhat at loss of words for Zoro's statement for a bit. Lol made for terrific comedy.
Zoro sacrificed his ambition in exchange for Luffys on Thriller Bark.
@@eijiniizuma6184 True , now that was when Zoro did sacrifice his ambition for his captain's. My man looked straight at death's eyes and well and truly accepted it.
As soon a Zoro met Kuma again at Sabody, he first thanks him for his mercy. Zoro is the the defination of Chad
An interesting note is that we pretty much already know the result of their battle:
Since we dont only know Mihawk is the strongest swordsman, title that he could have gained later after they stopped dueling; we actually know marines, for some reason, *know* that Mihawk is SPECIFICALLY a better swordsman than Shanks, particularly him, and the only way to know that is a duel. The better swordsman is decided on who wins the duel we know this since chapter 50.
Ah, btw, Shanks gaining fame because of dueling Mihawk is an official statement, not fanfic. Mihawk was already famous before Roger died thats also official right now at least. And therefor Shanks who was just a little dude in Roger's crew gaining fame from dueling Mihawk makes total sense.
Mihawk has probably allways been his kind of senpai for all we know
Very true. People need to stop separating haki from sword skills. Zoro uses haki all the time when using sword skills against top tiers. Same with Shanks who just freakin did that against Kid. Mihawk would do the same. Whitebeard considered they fights legendary with sword clashes with no haki? That would make no sense. Mihawk is above Shanks.
@@davidortiz3094 The no haki thing is just dumb, how would they not use haki
Its just people trying to find something that would prove that Shanks is stronger, but in reality as far as we know Mihawk should have the slight edge
Thank you! This video make no sense. you dont become the strongest swordman by make draw fights, you need to win them.
@@laraison6020 yeah shanks was in his prime with 2 hands. even white beard talk about it. It say a lot !!
If they were equal, then mihawk shouldnt be number 1. That's logically logic from The logical house...
The manga say mihawk is the strongest. what more do you want? an exorcism?
You guys have hard time dealing with facts
@@gingfreecss751 agenda piece at is finest, u know these niggas lack such simple common sense
Great video. I loved the first one and I’m glad you’re bringing it back. The fact that Mihawk even joined Cross Guild goes with this idea. Zoro likely changed Mihawk - and spending time with Perona I’m sure also helped. After spending time with them it’s possible he felt comfortable enough to join an alliance. I don’t think Mihawk would just betray the alliance out of nowhere though. Like Zoro, he seems to be committed to whatever path he chooses. The alliance is also pretty new, like it just happened. We need to spend time understanding cross guild and letting their team up breath before there would be any shake up. Considering it’s possibly first third of the end of the series, I don’t think there is a lot of time to break it up. If this theory were to happen, I think it would have to happen in the final act of the series.
Thanks Doron, I really like your take here on the whole thing, especially the idea of Zoro having chnaged him enough to agree to join Cross Guild in the first place. It also makes me wonder if there’s anything Luffy has managed to teach Shanks.
And I agree with you about it being too early to shake things up, but the hypothetical Davy Back fight could play out in a way where Mihawk is swapped to the Red Hair crew only temporarily before somehow being won back by the other side. Multiple rounds in the davy back fight could mean multiple wagers and mixups. 🤔 Just a fun idea to think about even beyond Mihawk
This is a really cool theory. I'm not sure all of it is possible but Mihawk once being a Red Hair Pirate is a good possibility I never thought about much
That Hidden Island vibe is so sweet , the graphics, the mood ,the voice , everything sets my soul to good vibes . i treasure that , but i'm not gonna lie , i'm here because the theories make my one piece mind grind like no other . thank you .
My eyes just watered and goosebumps rushed through my body once you mentioned the davy back fight with cross guild now that chapter 1082 dropped where Buggy told cross guild he wanted to go for the one piece bro this is incredible
Im beyond flabbergasted. THIS channel is easily the TOP one piece channel i’ve ever come across. I can instantly recognise the amount of love, effort, deep thinking and passion went into creating this video. forget the theory, the animations and jazz music alone just does it.
I was in the living room late last night laying comfortably on the couch and lemme tell you i felt like i was watching a cinematic MASTERPIECE. the ending with the jazz music made me feel so at ease and leaving with a bittersweet taste of wanting more just like appreciating the small bites of a delicious meal shared with friends and family that makes u want more but also appreciate the fact that it was shared.
I cant describe it, simply MAGNIFICENT.
Theory wise i’m just with you. you opened my eyes and mind to a lot of things i never thought through. Everything is solid and i’m amazed at how you connected everything.
I cant wait to explore your channel further. Keep up the amazing work and keep blessing us with more of your creativity ❤
Much love
From a fellow one piece lover
When you talked about how Luffy and Zoro parallel Shanks and Mihawk, something came to mind. Nami and Buggy have this same connection.
- Buggy is one of the few pirates to be associated with maps at all in this series.
- Buggy's stated goal is to collect every treasure in the East Blue
- Buggy STEALS credit from other pirates. Nami was a thief that stole from pirates.
- Nami and Buggy are both easily the weakest out of their trio.
- Both Nami and Buggy had a strong initial reaction against joining Luffy or Shank's crew, for very different reasons.
- In the manga, Nami is first introduced in the same arc as Buggy, even if she doesn't join up till Arlong.
I know its not really relevant to the rest of the theory, but its still interesting, I think. Thanks for giving me new insight on the characters.
Some people think that the reason buggy and shanks fell out was because shanks lost his will to look for the muguffin, and thats why later; they dont act viloent, buggy is resentful, and shanks is nutral. So I guess we could kickout the meat dude, and have buggy replace him?
I think shanks tried to recruit mihawk, remember that he was looking ppl for their names , mihawk probably refused, and promised that if he defeated mihawk in a fight , he would join him , but they never defeated each other.
dorry and braggy moment
@@ΚρανίΩ definitely lol 😆 shanks and mihawk have this kinda of rivalry , mihawk literally crossed the world from the east blue just to see and show shanks , luffy first bounty, he cares a lot about him .
@@ghsvideosreviews5499Mihawk definitely defeated Shanks. Hence, World's Strongest Swordsman.
@@davidortiz3094 no , we don't know if one or other win those duels , not in manga or any other material so far.
@davidortiz3094 no , when mihawk arrived to shanks.. shanks said he is in a bad mood and you came to challenge me.. Knowing mihawks personality why would we challenge a person he already defeated?? Since even shanks doesn't want to be a worlds strongest swordsman?? That means in their last encounter either shanks won or it was a draw. Since mihawk is the world's strongest he wouldn't lose which means it's most certainly a draw
Mihawk's vivre card tells us he was famous before Roger died. He became a warlord to freely roam the sea even though he didn't have a crew. I don't see a possibility of Mihawks joining Shanks crew if Shanks couldn't defeat him.
And now buggy has declared his big dream so hi needs mihwak.this theory doesn't make sense.
@@light4008 What do you guys mean? Everything is possible that Mihawk is now in the game.. What if they play a davy back fight Shanks vs Buggy? Or Shanks vs Luffy..etc.
@@Stefan0v1rest bro
@@Stefan0v1Shanks isn't winning against Mihawk.
Just imagine a very important characteres and plot lines get decided by stupid pirate game Luffy fighting shanks don't have anything to do with hating him or not having friendly relationship and in 1100 chapter there's no character that died in fight Roger and WB fought and they were friends even in real life pro fighters don't hate their opponents @@Stefan0v1
Now watching your vids at night gives me the ride mood especially at this time of year 😃🤙🏼
For me, Mihawk is alone because he is a swordsman first before he is a pirate, whereas Shanks is a pirate first before he is a swordsman. For Mihawk to be the WSS he should travel all around the world to challenge every swordsman that pops up all around and beat them to prove he is the strongest. That is why I think this is the reason why there's no WSS in the previous era, cause no one wanted to do that alone. Cause let's face it, no one wants to travel the world alone, and no one would want to join you to just challenge someone. Everyone would want to be in a crew and gather treasures and live the life not going from coast to coast to fulfill ones dream. And that is the reason Mihawk had to do that to fulfill his goal. And Zoro is lucky enough to not have to do that and just challenge the current holder for the title when he's ready. Maybe the last WSS was Ryuma and the title died with him cause nobody beat him, then after that no one has the motivation to put in the workload of traveling the world alone. Mihawk couldn't been with Shanks and pirating cause he had to be dueling swordsman not fighting pirates to claim the title. Zoro could do that because there is a title holder.
What if Mihawk actually made the same decision zoro made. It’s possible Mihawk bought in to shanks’ dream and wanted to help him achieve it.
When Shanks returned from the East Blue with a missing arm, Mihawk may have felt disrespected that the man he abandoned his dream for, had entrusted someone else with it.
Shanks losing his arm for luffy may have been the catalyst for Mihawk leaving the red hair pirates.
This would make Mihawk meeting luffy, reuniting with Shanks after first bounty, and zoro begging him for training hold even more weight
HIDDEN amazing don't know how you do it but gave me chills.
i've been lucky enough to receive one of your "giftsub" during the epic 1079 live react , wich is followed by this classy theory video . what a day man . thank you
25:05
Luffy vs Shanks
Zoro vs Mihawk
Sanji vs Beckman
Jimbei vs Lucky Roo
Usopp vs Yasopp
Lucky Roux is a Cook, and he's also the one who originally acquired the Gomu Gomu no Mi from an enemy ship for Shanks. He's definitely one of the strongest crewmembers, being said to be a main combatant for the crew. The top 3 is definitely: Beckmann as #1, and either Yasopp or Lucky coming in #2 with the weaker of the two coming in 3rd place. Since Lucky Roux is a cook I see him fighting Sanji.
Red Hair Pirates strength:
1. Shanks
2. Benn Beckmann
3. Yasopp / Lucky Roux
4. Yasopp / Lucky Roux
And the rest of the crew probably comes after these 4 in strength imo. I think Jinbe would fight either Building Snake or Gab, because they're big guys. Usopp gonna get a powerup in Elbaf and that's how he can surpass Yasopp. There's no proof that they will fight, but Usopp definitely needs atleast one sniper fight. He HAS to either fight Van Augur or Yasopp, OR BOTH!
if you look at the crossguild. wich would probably join the fight. buggy and crocodile could also make matchups for other strawhats. buggy would make great sense for brook and crocodile is great for robin.
I love how symbolism heavy your theory is, and how probable most of the terminology related stringboarding sounds. With Oda and word association, I learned one thing: if it sounds outlandish, it's probably true. Great narrative detective work going on here.
Thank you! A lot of work went into connecting the dots, and whether or not it ends up being true I think more than anything it speaks to the layered nature of Oda’s writing. More where that came from, thanks for watching!
That was absolutely insanely good. I am in shock, I am in awe. I have always wanted to come up with a really good theory like this, and seeing all the research and scrutinizing you did to come up with this is just inspiring. Amazing work!
oh god... after seeing the other goober captains on the grand fleet, it makes all the more sense for Foxy to be one of them
The whole theory is hinged on the assumption that Mihawk needs to have been a part of some pirate crew, in order to get strong enough to then go solo. IMO there is no evidence for this at all.
There are literally admiral level guys walking around the world of one piece who were never even pirates, like Fujitora and Greenbull, who were already strong enough to fight at that level, before they got drafted into the Navy.
Oden was a solo one man army from a young age, strong enough to clash with Whitebeard, before he even knew what pirates were.
The legendary Ryuuma was just a swordsman from Wano.
Kaido was a child when he attacked Marines just to eat, and then break himself out, and was just used by his country like a tool.
Most likely Mihawk is just another freak of nature. No reason he couldn't have been doing what Kaido was doing, and just attacking Marines and getting away with it. If Oden set out on a boat by himself, how many people are stopping him? Makes sense to assume that the man known as the greatest swordsman would have even more natural talent/strength.
All these theories are interesting, but just seem like mental gymnastics to somehow put Shanks over Mihawk, when the most obvious answer is right in the story and the databooks. They used to duel, Shanks lost his arm, Mihawk lost interest. He's the strongest swordsman, Shanks isn't.
It's almost like people start with 'Shanks HAS to be stronger, so let's come up with a theory that somehow makes this plausible'. Simple answer: Mihawk is the stronger fighter of the 2, Shanks is the better pirate.
One thing people bring up is Shanks/Luffy, and Mihawk/Zoro parallels, but Zoro's rival being stronger than Shanks doesn't undermine Luffy, because Shanks is not the final antagonist, most likely Blackbeard, or Imu is. Zoro surpassing both Shanks and Mihawk doesn't undermine Luffy's strength, because ultimately he will have to face Blackbeard, or maybe even Akainu to avenge Ace
I was searching for a comment like this for a long time thank you
Fujitora and Greenbull haven’t had their backstories revealed yet.
Oden got one-shot by Roger and he got beat by Whitebeard in a handful of attacks.
Ryuma never ventured into the grand line which was a key point to this video. Without a crew, would Ryuma even be able to navigate a ship or treat his own wounds? No info given about Ryuma indicates this.
Kaido broke out of navy ships but Luffy was breaking out of navy bases in the first couple chapters. Oda never stated Kaido was yonko level from day one. For all you know, it could have been Axe Hand Morgan level ships.
The only way Mihawk could have been a one-crew man from the start is with incredible luck. Even to this day, if something comes up that is outside of swordsmanship, Mihawk would have to defer to someone else.
I don't think Shanks was ever that strong to begin with, he's mostly smart like Law, not a fighting meathead like Luffy or Kid. I think when he met Kaido before marineford he didn't stop him by force like most think, I don't think he could (unless he has some ancient weapon or smth).
At this point, Luffy defeating Kaido already puts him above Shanks if we do proper powerscaling.
@@Oats95 He lost to the 2 strongest characters in the show, so what? Whitebeard told his crewmates to stand back, because he was the only one who could handle Oden, that tells you everything you need to know. Oden was one of the strongest men in the world before he even set foot off his island. You're talking like it's some wild idea for a man to sail solo, when people are literally doing that in real life. You think Mihawk couldn't do some first aid on himself if he had to? Of course Kaido wasn't born with the strength of a Yonko, nobody ever said that... What I said was Kaido even as a kid could survive by himself and do whatever he wanted without a crew, so why wouldn't the most gifted swordsman. We don't need to know Fujitora and Greenbulls backstories, that's completely irrelevant to the argument, what we know is they are strong as fuck and they were obviously never pirates, so you don't need to be on a pirate crew to be strong, that's the argument.
@@Rujewitbloodok so what happens when a starting out pirate mihawk is caught in a grand line thunderstorm, on his own, on his little boat without any knowledge on shipwrighting or navigation? What if he catches a sickness? What will he eat? So many different scenarios on the grand line that cant be overcome by just being strong, thats why people form crews in the first place, people with different skills to offer in different situations
This is such a balanced theory ( compared with what I've seen others think about this rivalry ) ... thumbs up
This is the first video of yours that I’ve watched, and I’m blown away. That intro was incredible, and I loved your commentary. Subscribed :)
The funny thing is that I had almost this exact theory myself when the manga was around WCI. Not the Mihawk being part of Shank's crew part, but the Sanji fighting Benn Beckman whilst Zoro fights Mihawk.
The reason being is not just because Benn's from the North Blue, Smokes, loves women, and is intelligent, but because like Sanji his character is represented as the "Moon" to their Captain's "Sun".
I'm late to the channel and to One Piece. I only recently decided to watch the anime and I'm not disappointed. I love your channel, as well.
As a guy who grew up in the 70s and 80s I was mostly outside with all the other kids of our era. This led to interaction, as well as not a small amount of bulkying when you are the smallest kud in your school, which I was. Even the girls were bigger than me.
I had a frenemy, Kevin O., we hung out all the time but it took me years to realize that Kevin only wanted me there to make himself feel bigger.
That hurt A LOT.
Eventually things occurred that I'm both proud about and embarrassed by, but, by overcoming my rival I took a step...
And 30 years later, I see it was the first step on my road to personal strength and security.
I really don't know who I would be without the lessons I learned from my "friendship" and ultimate triumph over him.
I think about Kevin once in a while but I'm generally having too much fun in my old age with my soul mate and biggest supporter, my wife Jamie.
Also, as a 52 year old man I am very aware thatI am at a point in life you put your dreams into the hands of the young. My grandkids are going to get some great dreams from me.
My theory is that shanks went to recruit mihawk for his crew but mihawk not wanting to live that life made a bet with shanks, if shanks beats him in a duel then he would join his crew and then as a result they had many duels.
Agree 100%
On a Brogy and Dorry type beef
Guts and Griffith
Mihawk fans are a joke 🤣🤣 oda gave out a huge clue to their power levels and yall ain't catch on. Shanks clears and has never lost to mihawk. Mihawk was handed the world's strongest swordsman when shanks lost his arm. Mihawk got his first and only win off of shanks due to technicality.
@@SirJorge. "Oda said" ...then says a headcanon... OP community getting irritating day by day
I like the thought that Mihawk is interested in Zoro because he sees it as an opportunity to test his decision to stick to his pride. Was it the right choice, or did he miss out on something when he cut himself off from a crew? A thought to entertain him after years of boredom. In the world of One Piece the answer is kinda obvious. Zoro's going to take the title because friendship. Presented to be far more entertaining than that sentence would make it seem I'm sure.
The Davy Back is a perfect piece to put this old theory together. To me it always was the tragic tale of a deep friendship, mistakes, and men too proud to apologise. A story which we almost saw again in Water7. But this way, in a Davy Back, theres no reason to apologise; you just have to follow the rules.
Just the imagination of Shanks and Mihawk fighting side by side gives me the chills! It would probably be so natural and mutual that itll be greater than any possible words.
You are sorely missed, brother. I love you theories
10/10 theory, love the jokes too. Lol. And how you put everything together 😂 loved it.
Thank you brother!
bro aside from the really good video, what an intro man, I'm impressed by your intro wow.
love the video! I thought the counter-arguments about mihawk were very good. I admire the effort you put into your theories , great content as always!
Thank you bro! Made sure to address the counter arguments better this time because this first time they were way more open ended
This was honestly really moving for the way you connected it. I would love to see this come true. Also the video and your intro are awesome
I think the best element that you pointed out was Zoro's clear intent that if Luffy couldn't lead correctly he would be out. I really feel like an occurrence like this is what drove that split between mihawk and shanks. Forcing yourself to get better to face someone who's leadership you don't believe in rather he do it from his own ambition.
Zoro says the following during his first meeting with Luffy upon agreeing to join him "If you do anything that will prevent me from achieving my goal Ill kill you" Zoro CHOSE to forego his dream in favor of Luffy during Thriller Bark thus completing his character arc,he made the sacrifice Mihawk was unable to match.
@@eijiniizuma6184 Or Shanks actually did something that broke Mihawks trust. You’ll not even in Thriller Bark Zoro did not give up on his dream or do something that got in the way of it. Nor did Luffy. In fact, it’s likely without that Zoro would be nowhere near to his dream as he is now.
It's even more interesting now that we know Buggy is a precedent in Shanks disapointing his camarade. Shanks was a guy with great potential who chose to hold back, and haven't been pursuing what he should have been pursuing for many year. It didn't sit well with Buggy, it may have not sit well with Mihawks either.
Dude i have become obsessed with your theories. Thanks for the content. The analysing you make to real world people and specific points in the story itself is amazing .
I guess if we are making parallels to Nordic themes. Shanks is basically Tyr the one armed God of War, Law and Justice. Tyr gave his arm so that the Great Wolf Fenrir was bound thus saving the 9 realms, while Shanks gives up his arm so that the future generation may become free.
Imo Sanji vs Lucky Roux makes a lot of sense. They're both the cooks of their respective crews. And if I'm not mistaken Lucky Roux is rumored to be one of the fastest people in the One Piece world. So those two match up pretty well. Love the video!
MiHawk isn’t weak for pursuing his own dream. His dream simply ends with him being alone…
This has always been a recurring theme in stories about people who always want to be the best, the strongest, the fastest, the richest. They are HYPER competitive- living for nothing but the competition- and that single-minded competitiveness tends to push away the people around you till your alone. As they say…the fastest runner runs alone.
Me, personally, I always look for subtext and so I wonder… A person with such a strong will like Zoro. Did he really give up on his dream or did he realize his ACTUAL dream? Zoro stared that his goal was to be the best swordsman, but I don’t think that’s what he really wanted or he would have NEVER given up on it. Zoro’s will might be something as simple as serving a greater cause- which he os willing to die for. It’s what actual samurai’s do. And his devotion to the sword…a sword is nothing in and of itself. It is a tool that serves the wielder.
Mihawk might be sad about the turn out, but he would do it again. Because that’s how strong HIS will is and thar’s the path he chose, for better or worse.
I don't get the notion that zoro actually gave up on being the strongest swordman , just bc he swallowed his pride to ask for him to train him doesn't mean he won't still aim to defeat him nor that his dream isn't still to be the strongest swordman zoro simply places his responsibilities has right hand to luffy above his personal goals when he feel he needs to , it's actually luffy said after zoro lost to mihawk "the pirate King wouldn't have anything but the best" if anything the crew needing zoro to bc the strongest swordman in his mind just adds to his ambition
I've always thought Zoro had two clear goals; become the strongest swordsman for Kuina, and help Luffy become pirate king.
First video I ever seen from this guy and this was beautiful amazing I might say
I hate how ppl are downplaying mihawak when all of the strong ass people that has known shanks would tell them that they know him bcus of his duel with mihawk. Time and time again this was shown and told by strong people when they talk about shanks. It was first mentioned by the strongest man WB. Thats literally the only thing he remembered about shanks including him being with roger. That should have been a dead give away that mihawk is crazy strong. It was also mentioned again in wano arc when they talk about shanks and their duel was mentioned again as some kind of feat.
And ppl should also remember that zorro having conquerors haki the strong ass people have told him that he also has kingly ambition. Kingly ambition. Being the worlds strongest swordsman is considered a kingly ambition just like being the pirate king. Let that sink in.
The people downplaying Mihawk are no other than Luffy and Shanks fans cause they just don't want Zoro to be as strong as Luffy but more like Sanji.
I'm going back and watching/commenting on old vids, and I gotta say: for the Beckman/Sanji comparison, as an insane story crafter myself inspired by Oda, Andrew Hussie, and Archie Sonic, that is EXACTLY how it works.
You come up with ideas and you like them a ton and push them to the front of the story, but as you expand the world, some ideas stop working or get replaced, but the ones you like remain and just get stuck elsewhere. It makes a lot of sense that original Sanji from RD would be split in half, traits now shared and split between two new characters, and turned into a rivalry for later in the story, allowing it to have tons of room to breathe and get a proper spotlight because the original idea was beloved so much.
All that is to say yeah, I agree that the Sanji-Beckman connection is very strong.
Really good theory! I like it, and there's good merit to the points. I would be very glad to see this play out, it adds layers to both characters. But I think in terms of his theming and styling there could be a good possibility he was one of the less known members of the rocks pirates as well ( with the marine hunter moniker). But I only base that on the themes, you bring very good points to support it! :D
You make great character-based theories man! Keep it up, very different from the other theories out there. Makes me really appreciate the character side of one piece more.
Yea every video you manage to blow my mind man! The vibes are great as always #besttheoryever
Thank you brother, I appreciate that greatly
This channel is a gem. I understand that these videos take inspiration from other theories, but the hardest part is stitching it together. Keep it up man, your videos are really fucking good.
How does this not have that many views we need to let this man into the REVERIE, dude could go toe to toe with the heavy hitters ie. Vinland D Ragnar, Ohara, BDA Law, Syv and many OP creators
….Boy do I have news for you LOL
For real, bro, his cooking very hard
The best Mihawk theory I’ve ever heard so far. Plus I just love the hidden island vids over all
This makes so much sense dude, thank you for putting out quality videos every time
this is the best and well-reasoned theory i have yet seen about OP in general. I loved the idea of a davy-back fight, and even though i find this in particular highly unlikely, mainly because i want another outcome, i feel like Long-ring-long arc was there for a reason and knowing Oda this will have to do alot with one piece endgame.
Another fact i love is how u described the Shabnks-mihawk rivalry going on for so long and with only zoro being able to maybe make mihawk question his deeds of (potentially) abaonding his crew for his sole ambition. Like the fact he laughed and said things. U put in in a-whole-nother perspective for me.
When you put it like that, this kind of explains why Mihawk said to Zoro "When a man like you swallows his pride, it's always for someone else" in the anime (episode 515 I think), in reference to Zoro training to become stronger for Luffy during the timeskip and foregoing his own dream to become the world's greatest swordsman. Mihawk was probably referring to Shanks sacrificing his own goal (maybe world's greatest swordsman, who knows) and betting on Luffy and his generation to bring the dawn.
I appreciate it. Guys like you a lot. You woke up and chose to speak sense instead of just being bias
Wow this was actually a really good theory to watch. Hidden cooked🔥
That Foxy connection is frickin CURSED
. . . . . . I LOVE IT 💯💯💯. This is now my head canon til otherwise
One of the greatest One Piece theories because it doesn't feel like a theory, it feels like you foretelling what will be and what was.
Man, your videos are outstanding. Not just the information, but also how it's put together and presented. To the point where I'd say you're my personal favorite One Piece content creator. There's a lot of other creators that are quality, but you've got a style and voice that gives you the edge.
Take it easy man, and good job.
I always thought Sanji vs Roux made a lot of sense because they’re both cooks and _really_ fast. And that nami beck made sense because they’re both supposed to be the smartest of their crew and the most reasonable. But beck sanji does also make a lot of sense
Robin is smarter than nami
@@zoovaado7759 yeah, that’s true, but nami has the edge in terms of being able to keep luffy in check. Even though Robin is smarter and more mature she won’t really get in Luffys way even if he wants to do something dumb, she’ll go along with it. Where as nami is just more known for trying to stop him and trying to explain why he should or shouldn’t do xyz. Kind of how like chopper and Franky are very smart too in different ways, or how Hongo is really smart but of course not the same voice of reason as Beckmann though. The matchup just always made sense in my head but I agree it’s not perfect
Only problem with the Nami Beck thing is that beck the second in command currently and probably the second strongest. Nami is in the bottom 3 of the straw hats when it comes to strength
Nami vs Beckman??? Don't ever disrespect Ben Beckman like that again man....
@@bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149 Yeah lmao at that, it's like saying Helmeppo vs Kizaru.. gtfo.
I have always liked your theories bro theirs just so grounded with what’s available in the story I may be lurking the comments time to time but I always make sure to show support
- 18:12 In the Ace Novels, it tells us that Shanks gained his initial fame from duels with Mihawk, so your first rebuttal is immediately null and void
- 19:01 It’s not important to sail the seas alone, Mihawk in his introduction told Zoro the East Blue is the weakest of the 4 seas, this implies Mihawk is a well-traversed man who’s been everywhere seeking challenges. He is also stated in his vivrecard that he trained tremendously and challenged more and more powerful foes. This also implies that he sailed the Grand Line as well as the new world (things he is currently doing). To assume he can’t because “there’s no way” isn’t a strong argument
Don’t mind your theory, actually I like it but some of the common rebuttals against it are valid in my opinion
1. The point was moreso to disprove that lower fame or higher age than your captain is a prerequisite to join a crew, which that detail doesn't seem to disprove. That detail is interesting however, and does make it more difficult to timeline but not impossible. Might not have nailed every detail on the order of events, but hopefully my video is at least a good jumping off point.
2. This doesn't really make sense to me as a counter argument. The burden is on you, not me, to prove that someone can climb to the top of the pirate world in the grand line completely alone without any crew or help whatsover. There is no example of this anywhere in the story, and I'm following the examples set by the greatest pirates ever stated to live. I doubt Mihawk is a more seasoned warrior than all of them. The argument is based on precedent and context, which I think is as strong of an argument as you can get in an ongoing fictional story.
Appreciate the rebuttals to my rebuttals lmao, hopefully this helped clear up my thoughts. Thanks for watching!
Great theory man. I was skeptical at first, but I like the connections and evidence you used
You could be seeing what you want to see, and I would like to see it as well.
In reality, Oda will give us something and it will all click, whatever he has in store for Mihawk and Shanks will be awesome.
How happy am I that my favorite theory of yours is not only still kicking around but now bigger and better than ever? Very happy! Shanks waiting for Luffy to reach his level just as Mihawk is waiting for Zoro makes so much sense. (grey_em)
Shanks Feats:
- Looked into the future and changed it by Neg diffing Kid and Killer in one shot after speed blitzing them while simultaniously knocking out half of kids crew with collateral coc.
- Discord coc‘d Greenbull and scared him away after Greenbull defeated King and Queen with ease and fought against yamato Momonosuke and a few scabbards and had the upper hand.
- Easily blocked a direct attack from Akainu point blank who is said to have the strongest offensive df power in the verse and made him sweat. (He is literally Magma)
- Had a scuffle with Kaido and prevented him from going to Marineford
- Clashed with Whitebeard and split the sky
- Scared away Blackbeard who was willing to take on the whitebeard pirates and the Marines and even fighting on par with garp and sengoku after killing whitebeard
- Had legendary duels with Mihawk over 12 years ago when he wasnt even a yonko and had a bounty of max 1B.
Mihawk Feats:
- Fought Shanks on equal terms over 12 years ago when Shanks wasnt a yonko and had a bounty of maximum 1 Billion
- Overpowered pre TS Jinbei
- Fought on par with Vista
- Clashed with pre TS Crocodile
- Defeated Don Krieg
- Defeated East Blue Zoro
- Got his sword strike deflected by Jozu while Whitebeard wasnt even worried
- Scared a bunch of Baboons
- Bullied Buggy together with Crocodile in the Cross Guild
- Sliced a frozen wave in half
- Did 0 damage with his sword skills to Buggy in Marineford
- Dipped when Shanks arrived
Now you tell me who has the better feats and who probably is the stronger character
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I also would say Shanks
Strongest swordsman in the story vs A swordsman
You tell me who you think is stronger
@@Lol-hp2qg so Mihawk is stronger than Whitebeard? Lol his weapon is also considered a sword
@@jordancave3089 no it isn’t it’s a Bisento which is a polearm not a sword and don’t use the argument that it’s a supreme blade because as we learn in wano the those classifications can apply to spears we even see a bisento in the background while the smith is explaining it
This is my first time ever watching one of your videos and I just have to say that the intro is amazing! Good job bro
20:15 Not saying it was Bennie but it wasn’t Yasopp because you can see an entire ship behind Shanks when he pulled up on his boat.
Didn't pick up on that actually, interesting point!
5:20 damn i posted this on reddit few days ago, whitebeard clearly showed some respect to mihawk there. He even was talking shit about the admirals while being infront of them but never did he disrespect mihawk even after mihawk attacked him.
Imagine having higher bounty than your captain ☠️☠️☠️ Poor Buggy, he probably shakes before knocking on Mihawk's door and then finds himself in Dracula's scary vampire room every time he wants to ask him sth. Either way, Mihawk's style reminds me of Moria, perhaps he once was in his crew and then quit because Moria is lame.
I mean, or we can just go by what the man said......
He doesn't think Shanks is up to snuff because he lost his arm. Pretty straight forward and easy explanation instead of a bunch of headcannon seemingly out of thin air.
If I’m not mistaken wasnt Mihawk already the strongest swordsman even at Rogers execution we saw him. I think it was revealed in an SBS that shanks gained his notoriety from his battles with Mihawk
not confirmed if he was already WSS but he was already a famous swordsman
I dont think he was the strongest at Rogers execution, he looked really young then, but he did have the black blade so who knows. I'm not sure if that scene was anime only though
@@Rujewitblood we don't know the colour of yoru that young mihawk had.
@@pranomadityagogoi8046 in the flashback it looks the same as it does now, but I guess we don't know what the sword originally looked like so i guess you're right
Mihawk was 19 at Roger’s execution there’s no way in hell he was number one then
What an amazing theory! Everyone is focused on the "big" secrets in one piece like The meaning of the D and so on but I really enjoy watching these theories a lot. Your voice, how you put 1 and 1 together and even how you respond to common doubts - amazing piece of work!
Mishanks would be a deadly combo for anyone in the world of one piece.
Probably the most one piece-esque one piece theory i have ever seen, absolutely incredible!
I finally got a good explanation about shanks giving up his arm. Curious to know how Oda draws it, but I gotta say this makes the most sense. When hawk eye gave shanks the Luffy poster pre time skip how did he know how to find Shanks? Especially if he is so elusive. He has to have a vivre card. Why would he have a vivre card? these questions I asked my self, and this theory explains it in a way that ties everything together.
the amount of pauses I made and yelled LET HIM COOK was astounding. stellar work as always brother ❤
im confused now tho why isnt mihawk present before shanks loses an arm? ik we figured out recently that the red hair crew only assembles rarely or something like that but they werent even close to being a yonko crew yet so theyd presumbably be together at all times
ok i dont think its very likely but the comparisons are so cool and the more you talked about comparisons and connections the more i wanted this to be true
I think Mihawk trained Shanks to beat him. There’s got to be a reason why Shanks is known for killing Future Sight. I think they had their fight and Shanks almost won. And then he lost an arm. So Mihawk never got to have a final match where he would be beaten,
I think this mostly because I like the idea of Shanks just begging Mihawk for matches and Mihawk being grumpy about it. Before relenting.
I also think they fought after Shanks lost an arm. After all, Shanks did say ‘are you here to ask for a fight?’ Feels like they’ve had that exchange a few times since Shanks lost his arm?
Probably ended up with them both drinking. Exactly like thr first time we saw them.
You lost me with the falconry stuff, but got me back with the Davey back fight idea!!
Nami feels a bit forced in this parallel so I think the only change I would make is slotting Jimbei in her place VS Lucky Roux which makes a bit more sense to me with their proportions somewhat mirroring each other. Remember that Jimbei will need a potential opponent in this situation and I think a grand Sumo style battle with Lucky Roux works wonderfully for the two of them.
So... just shape?
@@seancollins6572we really don't know much about lucky rou so yeah just the body shape for now.
Although I heard he's the fastest man in one piece. So I don't know how jimbei counters that. Regarding this I have a better match up though:
Brook vs lucky, completely opposite body proportions and both are extremely fast at close range.
It's brook vs Rockstar for sure . He can't have that name 😂
Best one-piece theory, I have heard so far. Thanks for making me love the story that I love more than anything.
I'm not sure if you know this, but Lucky Roux is actually a cook
you deserve more subs. That intro alone is simply phenomenal.
I wish they would just kiss
Bro im back because i think this is my personal favorite theory out there. Keep up the good work man
another banger vid
I love your vids because I feel like a ton of theories are super outlandish or rely on something i don't really like like connecting numbers. Your theories always sound so plausible and like Oda's writing style. This video is no exception this could absolutely be true
I think Mihawk and Shanks are basically Equal , They are like Roger & Whitebeard , I think neither of them have defeated eachother.
Now you would think then that would mean Mihawks title is fake and not complete , Here's why I say that's false and how I think Mihawk became the WSS after ending his rivarly with Shanks.
Mihawk achieved a Black blade. Shanks hasn't, after their rivarly ended Mihawk achieved the pinnacle and " secret " of swordsmanship , Being the " Red Haired Emperors Rival , Drawn with him and achieving a Black Blade when the Emperor hasn't , That's what made Mihawk the World's Strongest Swordsman , People acknowledged that Mihawk achieved greater Swordsmanship than Shanks because of the Black blade. This is also why the marines said Mihawk has Greater sword skill than even the Red Haired Emepror , This also means that the only Swordsman capable of fighting Mihawk to the death is actually only Shanks , The marines never said Big Mom , Or Rayleigh , They were basically saying Mihawk and Shanks are the two strongest swordsmen in the world.
one of the best one piece theories I have ever watched. Masterfully done. You earned a sub for that
I actually think Buggy will win the Davy back fight and as his choice for new crew man he'll choose Shanks which will automatically make the rest of the crew join. Thus causing him to fall upwards once again.
if you look at the crossguild. wich would probably join the fight. buggy and crocodile could also make matchups for other strawhats. buggy would make great sense for brook and crocodile is great for robin.
@@Nakamako1 Jimbei providing Robin an assist
I interpreted mihawks anger as offence that Shanks didn’t value their rivalry and being the best swordsman above all else, hence why Mihawk seems bored all the time. He seems starved of someone worthy of battling him, going in so far as to train Zoro just to see how much he could grow and to test the theory that wanting to become stronger for someone else’s dream will allow Zoro to surpass him. Mihawk is a fascinating character. Oda has written him so well because it’s all implied, not stated.
poor bumhawk 🤣🤣 nobody gives a shi about his title other than zoro
Love this theory and fingers crossed its correct. Would be an amazing arc but do you think black beard or the elders will be the last obstacle? I hope its black beard but i think it could be either tbh 😅
This is a dope theory I love it Mihawk being the original first mate of the red hair pirates is so cool and it makes sense especially the five matches with the original crew members
Expanding off of the rivalry between Shanks and Mihawk, there was one idea that came to my mind. But first, if you take a look back at when Shanks was at Wano, he was able to cancel out haki. This reveal was pretty huge imo as we don't know any other character in the series that can do such a thing with haki. Now, with Mihawk, he clearly is based on a vampire given his "Dracule"/"Dracula" name, his actual appearance, and also his spooky looking island.
So, what if Mihawk is actually able to absorb haki similar to that of a vampire absorbing your blood aka your life force. This could explain why he considered Shanks his true rival as well. This is because no matter how much haki Shanks used against Mihawk, he would just absorb it all and possibly throw it right back at Shanks. However, no matter how much haki Mihawk absorbs and throws back, Shanks can cancel it out with his own nullifaction abilities. This makes them the perfect rivals since they can have a fair sword fight as true swordsmen with no haki or devil fruits involved. But, with Shanks losing his arm, it would add to why Mihawk lost interest since Shanks wouldn't be able to hold his own against him in an actual sword fight with no haki or devil fruit powers anymore
@@SoothingMusic883 It was revealed in his Vivre Card that Shanks is known for being the "Killer of Observation Haki" and I think it's based on the fact that his Conqueror's Haki is just powerful enough to cancel out someone from using their future sight against him. It would have been during the time he scared off Greenbull as well. Even if he didn't use it against Greenbull in Wano, it was already confirmed that Shanks has the ability to cancel out haki anyway
@@shimahdah I really like this and it does give respect to the title "the killer of Observation Haki" but Shanks can only cancel out future sight, or so it says. I read someone commented that this could be why Kaido didn’t use future sight all that much, seeing that there already was a person capable of canceling out future sight. I will say that with Hawkeyes, Mihawk probably uses a lot of wild haki infused techniques and with Shanks canceling the future sight, it only lays credence to how precise Mihawk can strike even without knowing the future; he is raw skill.
That’s was the best Intro I’ve ever seen this is my first time watching this dudes videos
What if he lost his Jolly Roger to foxy😂
I listen to your videos while I am working and I have to say I am in awe by your storytelling! glad I found your channel