Piccadilly line driver here Multiple reasons you had a fast journey here 1. Very few trains on the line so the trains have the most power available to them so that leads to faster acceleration. 2. This unit seems to have good motors, due to the age of the trains no two units have similar performance. Some trains perform great, some are horrible to drive. If you have a train with slow acceleration and poor brakes then a driver isn't going to want to rag it around incase they SPAD or overrun a platform. 3. As there's less trains around the signals will all be clear meaning no having to brake in anticipation. 4. Night tube has a different set of announcements compared to day tube and these are shorter. These and some other factors all add up to the journey you had.
All trains have to perform to minimum safe standards. None should have faulty motors and pads are replaced all the time. At least half of that comment is bs.
@@elixier33 as someone who works as a driving instructor on the Piccadilly line and understands how the trains work your comment is BS. The trains are almost 50 years old and they vary wildly in performance, motor defects are not only common but happen typically on average once a day Night tube journeys are significantly quicker than running on the day again for the reasons stated above but you believe what you want to believe...
@@JRJUK Very interesting, Jon. Here's something I've been wondering - do some drivers like to go faster than others? Does driving style also have an impact on speed? I have a friend who works on the Bakerloo and he told me that some guys like to be right at the limit, and some tend to take extra precaution and drive slower. Do you think that has a noticeable effect on what we feel as passengers? Cheers.
I used to travel on the Picc regularly,. The stretch between Action Town and Hammersmith is particularly long and drivers can rack up some fast speeds...as the trains enter the Hammersmith area they need to slow as the line dips into a tunnel,. Some drivers would slow quite early but others used brake quite late and speed into the dip..always loved being on a fast train on that section, proper daredevil drivers!
Yes the Acton to Hammersmith section is another fast bit. That's the fun thing about the Piccadilly line you could get a daredevil driver one time, then the next time a non risk-taking driver. Each to their own taste!
You’ll mostly find drivers sticking to the speed limit. Sometimes it may feel like the driver is going faster because they drive a bit harder (usually experienced) but they stay within the limit. It also depends on the time of day as to how close the train in front is.
It’s not the time of day/night, it’s just the drivers way of driving. If you reach the other end a little earlier you get slightly longer turn around but that’s rarely the case.
Other than this i have to ask, whatever happened to the piccadilly line?Commuting daiy In the late 70s-early 80s the whole service seemed much faster with headways of 1-2 minutes. Now the gaps are much longer and speeds seem much slower whenever i use it
If only! Now its every 5 minutes to Heathrow and with the COVID timetable its even more infrequent. I think with trains running through to Uxbridge and Rayners Lane more ofthen this also doesn't help the frequency. I think its about a 1/20 chance you get a fast driver on the Picc. It's quite sad to see it change but what can we do!
0:09 Hatton Cross. Piccadilly line terminates at Cockfosters. 1973 stock. Terminates via Central London. Comes at 2 mins. 0:20 Piccadilly line comes to platform.
Thanks, I cut my videos when I feel that the main focus/point of that scene has been shown and try to keep the average length at around 5 minutes or so.
Never actually been on the picadilly line ive always wanted to but any part of it is so long to get to from my house. Been on the district, H&C, central, jubilee, northern, riverboat, docklands light rail, GOBLIN and Richmond-Stratford overground branches, crossrail, i think thats it.
Very dirty those seats of the Piccadilly line train service it is. :( Wasn't refurbishment of train is make some more brighter better with new comfort seats than bad, isn't it?
@@southwest455biggest gap on individual stations:finchley road metropolitan and jubilee, bank central, embankment(northbound) northern, Waterloo bakerloo, bow road district and hammersmith and city, westbourne park circle, turnham green picadilly Tottenham hale victoria
Piccadilly line driver here
Multiple reasons you had a fast journey here
1. Very few trains on the line so the trains have the most power available to them so that leads to faster acceleration.
2. This unit seems to have good motors, due to the age of the trains no two units have similar performance.
Some trains perform great, some are horrible to drive. If you have a train with slow acceleration and poor brakes then a driver isn't going to want to rag it around incase they SPAD or overrun a platform.
3. As there's less trains around the signals will all be clear meaning no having to brake in anticipation.
4. Night tube has a different set of announcements compared to day tube and these are shorter.
These and some other factors all add up to the journey you had.
Thanks for the explanation - good reading it.
Thanks for the insight!
All trains have to perform to minimum safe standards. None should have faulty motors and pads are replaced all the time. At least half of that comment is bs.
@@elixier33 as someone who works as a driving instructor on the Piccadilly line and understands how the trains work your comment is BS.
The trains are almost 50 years old and they vary wildly in performance, motor defects are not only common but happen typically on average once a day
Night tube journeys are significantly quicker than running on the day again for the reasons stated above but you believe what you want to believe...
@@JRJUK Very interesting, Jon. Here's something I've been wondering - do some drivers like to go faster than others? Does driving style also have an impact on speed? I have a friend who works on the Bakerloo and he told me that some guys like to be right at the limit, and some tend to take extra precaution and drive slower.
Do you think that has a noticeable effect on what we feel as passengers? Cheers.
I used to travel on the Picc regularly,. The stretch between Action Town and Hammersmith is particularly long and drivers can rack up some fast speeds...as the trains enter the Hammersmith area they need to slow as the line dips into a tunnel,. Some drivers would slow quite early but others used brake quite late and speed into the dip..always loved being on a fast train on that section, proper daredevil drivers!
Yes the Acton to Hammersmith section is another fast bit. That's the fun thing about the Piccadilly line you could get a daredevil driver one time, then the next time a non risk-taking driver. Each to their own taste!
If you think about it, when you're going to the tunnels it seems very fast, but when you're outside, it seems slow
Thing about ATO lines, is you know every journey is going to be as fast as possible, where on manual driven lines it’s more of a gamble
You’ll mostly find drivers sticking to the speed limit. Sometimes it may feel like the driver is going faster because they drive a bit harder (usually experienced) but they stay within the limit. It also depends on the time of day as to how close the train in front is.
But the piccadilly line isn't ATO
@@Great_WesternTVFan Nobody said it was ATO. The comment was stating the comparison.
@@NoddyMaccyHAH
Not on the Bakerloo, some drivers go 35 before Baker St
@@OffTheRailsUK That’s the speed limit.
I remember riding the Piccadilly Line train when i went to London
The seats must be really shook when the driver pressed the brakes lol
Between Caledonian Road and Kings cross the speed the driver goes is just 💨💨
Why does it feel that they drive much faster through the night? Do a driver drive more routes at night than in the day?
Sometimes they drive this fast in the day too, but it is very rare.
And no, night tube operators are just like day tube, trained to drive one route.
It’s not the time of day/night, it’s just the drivers way of driving. If you reach the other end a little earlier you get slightly longer turn around but that’s rarely the case.
The trains a further apart so they tend to go faster
People wanna go home faster maybe:)
Other than this i have to ask, whatever happened to the piccadilly line?Commuting daiy In the late 70s-early 80s the whole service seemed much faster with headways of 1-2 minutes. Now the gaps are much longer and speeds seem much slower whenever i use it
If only! Now its every 5 minutes to Heathrow and with the COVID timetable its even more infrequent. I think with trains running through to Uxbridge and Rayners Lane more ofthen this also doesn't help the frequency. I think its about a 1/20 chance you get a fast driver on the Picc. It's quite sad to see it change but what can we do!
The new tube for London would probably be this speed and a bit faster in the tunnel section
0:09 Hatton Cross. Piccadilly line terminates at Cockfosters. 1973 stock. Terminates via Central London. Comes at 2 mins. 0:20 Piccadilly line comes to platform.
Yes! when i get a tube driver job im gonna drive fast like that
Excellent, that reminds me of a faster drive on OpenBVE, shame you cut out the video
Thanks, I cut my videos when I feel that the main focus/point of that scene has been shown and try to keep the average length at around 5 minutes or so.
This would probably be my second favourite tube line
Piccadilly is very nice, but only when the drivers are fast!
southwest455 True
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southwest455 I an imagine myself slamming the emergency brakes when I am close to overrunning. I do that on the northern line
Never actually been on the picadilly line ive always wanted to but any part of it is so long to get to from my house. Been on the district, H&C, central, jubilee, northern, riverboat, docklands light rail, GOBLIN and Richmond-Stratford overground branches, crossrail, i think thats it.
Very dirty those seats of the Piccadilly line train service it is. :( Wasn't refurbishment of train is make some more brighter better with new comfort seats than bad, isn't it?
My kind of driver!
Indeed!
When was this filmed, cos it deffo cannot be during lockdown
This was filmed in 2018
@@southwest455 oh fair enough deffo a backlog video
@@kk-transport Yes, I would not risk filming in the current climate, unless safe to do so.
all hail Piccadilly line!
i was on a district line train between slone sqaure and stepney green and it took off like a rocket it is becuase it is on ato
That's very good 👍
i miss the old seat design :(
Hatton Cross
Hounslow West
Hounslow Central
Hounslow East
Osterley
Boston Manor
Northfield
South Ealing
Acton Town
Turnham Green
Hammersmith
Why havent you got more subscribers mate
As long as I can keep creating content for people to watch I don't mind the subscriber count :)
Nice
3:00 am! This is night tube I think
Definitely night tube!
Piccadilly line do not stop at south Kensington
most likely he ramps the controller as far as it goes
That gap is BIG 4:41
Ladbroke Grove on the H&C and Circle line has a quite a bigger gap!
Look at Bank
@@MalaysianAviator737-8 yes please go to bank some national rail stations with curves dont even come near to banks gap
@@southwest455biggest gap on individual stations:finchley road metropolitan and jubilee, bank central, embankment(northbound) northern, Waterloo bakerloo, bow road district and hammersmith and city, westbourne park circle, turnham green picadilly
Tottenham hale victoria
@@LengKingg Have seen
I subbed and found you on the suicide tube pits video
Edit: i don’t like that term “suicide pits”
Yeah grim
Suicide tube pits video?
The 1973 Stock was Just as Fast as the A60 Stock Metropolitan Line if not that bit faster
A stock was the fastest recorded underground tube ever
I don't like the cuts
Sorry about that!