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Is Abuse Ever Funny? Therapist Reacts to The Boys (S04E06)
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In her latest video, psychotherapist Georgia Dow reacts to the controversial abuse scene involving Hughie in "The Boys." She examines the creators' comments about finding humor in the scene and provides a professional perspective on why this portrayal is problematic. Join Georgia as she dives deep into the psychology of abuse and the impact of such depictions in media.
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@@DeathCrunchNO CAUSE WHY DID I SAY THE SAME THING IN MY HEAD
8:30 By pretending to be someone else, it was in fact Hughie who violated the consent of the other two. There was actually a real life case about this subject.
@@SpicyTake YES! Finally, someone with some brains around here!
The main issue for most people is what the writer said about this scene vs the one where Deep 6 abused Star Light. It basically came down to him caring about how the prior was handled cause the victim was a woman vs Hughie being abused was funny because it's a man being abused.
Him breaking and saying im not fine and missing his dad, totally broke me. Made me tear up and cry thinking about my own dad.
They thought that shit was funny. I thought the writers were trying to break Hughie down and advance A Trains arc. What the fuck.
I had a very similar experience, and really wish fans that are saying this season has ‘fallen off’ would give the rest of the season a chance, instead of jumping to conclusions about the trajectory of the rest of the entire IP
@@Darth_Bateman How do you come to that conclusion? To me I felt that they actually acknowledged Hughie suffering there. I didn't see it as a joke.
Same
@@nostalji75Kripke was asked in an interview about the SA and why they were kicking Hughie while he was down and how that would affect Hughie going forward, and Kripke’s response was: “Well, that’s a dark way of looking at it! We view it as hilarious.” and then goes on about how Tek Knight is an allegory for Batman, completely ignoring that the question was about Hughie’s mental state.
All this aside...this episode convinced me that Hughie's actor would make an awesome Spider-Man
@NecromancyLabz my #1 fancast
He is currently making for a fantastic Superman
He already did funny enough in Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse.
@@stomyn ? I'm confused. How?
@@themajesticspider-man6116 He voices Superman in the new animated show
I think the humor is less in the fact that Hughie is being abused and more in how ridiculous Tek Knight and his dungeon is.
Yeah I felt for Hughie; I was like "yup, can't complain" when Tek Knight finally met his end
Imo It's funny because he's a realistic version of Batman and theirs always been jokes about Batman and Robin's relationship and this leans into
I think we should be able to directly look at this kind of stuff for what it is.
Now Does It make you uncomfortable? Good you're normal and have morals.
Was it funny? Absolutely not. However the fact that a man is being SA may cause you to change how you initially respond to it and I think that was the point.
@@sainttrai It's only really a satire of Batman if you've never seen a single thing involving Batman in your life tbh.
@@sainttrai”realistic version of Batman 🤓🤓🤓🤓”
I despise the leftist inability to actually value heroism and desire to tear everything down for no reason at all.
Hughie is quite simply the most scarred and tortured individual on the show. From the first 5 freaking minutes this poor lad had his entire life upended and it's been a damn roller coaster from there.
Maybe, but then again Butcher has been dealing with stuff like this since he was a kid
Exactly. Idk. I hope hughie gets a happy ending by the time everything is done. He deserves to like, move to a different country away from everything with Annie or something.
I say no on that theres plenty of characters that fits the mold
Aaar, I don't know. To me, trauma is never comparable. "That person's trauma is worse", "That one is less bad", you can't say that because you're not them, and it just sounds dismissive. Everyone in the show has different traumas that they deal with. Trauma is trauma, none is worse or better.
Ted Knight knew the whole time it wasn’t Webweaver.
His perception demonstrated in Gen V is incredible, so he may have known immediately. Failing that, Webweaver’s suit has a hole, the whole reason Tek invited him. Hughie has his back turned in the library as Tek seems to look at the hole, and immediately after, he ‘invites’ Hughie to the Tek Cave. To double confirm, he follows Hughie into the elevator where we can all see his bare skin.
Ashley gets a pass because she seems to understandably believe this is consensual, and pauses the first time it appears that it’s not, but Tek is toying with him from the start.
Tek definitely knew immediately
Imagine when ashley and hughie eventually cross paths again
To be clear, I hate Tek Knight & I'm glad he's gone, but I personally don't think he fully knew, just had some red flags which he internally wrote off or somewhat held on to. When he does remove the mask, he says "this is great news actually" which he would have had no reason to say if he already knew.
@@arcticeagle342He didn't know WHO was under the mask, just that it wasn't Webweaver. The "this is great news" was learning who it was specifically.
@@Ziergon We don't know that though, & anything before he unmasks Hughie wouldn't be able to be used in a court
It reminds me of the Mythbusters episode where they strapped someone down and dripped water on their head. Even though they could get out any time they want and were surrounded by friendly people and no one was hurting them, just the act of being tied down and unable to move with this annoying drip of water hitting them was enough to make someone cry. We value our autonomy greatly.
"no one was hurting them" your literally talking about a established tourture technique... I agree with your conculsion though.
Its a bit strange they didn't ask to leave before they started to break down. You sure they had full ability to leave?
@@user-kt3qm8jy8y That's what they said in the show. If they lied about that then I would have no way of knowing.
@@user-kt3qm8jy8y It's complicated. They're an actor, they're expected to put on a show, and even if their bosses are allowing them to leave, they can be subject to pressure, including self-imposed pressure to perform, or "be tough."
Something like this might've made them feel like they needed to try and push harder than they were able to handle, and delay in asking to leave, despite needing to stop right that moment.
Look at Hughie when he recanted his safe word. It can especially hard for people pleasers to enforce their limits, especially if the activity is perceived as "mild" or "silly." It takes training and will to assert yourself, sometimes.
These are delicate situations, and it takes a lot of effort to manage them
@@nostalji75yeah thanks for clarifying
After today’s episode too…. Hughie got assaulted. AGAIN. TWO EPISODES IN A ROW.
Yeah, after end part of last episode, I thought it was really poor taste and felt that the showrunner's didn't see Hughie's SA as something that needed to be addressed.
@@Drstrange3000 This is what Eric Kripke the director for the show said about what happened to Huey in Season 4 episode 6 "Well, that’s a dark way to look at it! We view it as hilarious."
extremely shameful and disrespectful on his part.
speaking as a guy who has been shamed of not liking a sexual touch from another and actually being shamed for it, I know what kinda thing Hughie was going through both during and after that incident cause yea that was pretty messed up. Abuse/assault on either gender on any person is plain not funny or very hard to make funny no matter how you approach it, but at least the show acknowledged how wrong it really was and actually showed some compassion to the victim.
It was funny
Really sorry for what you had to go through man
@@Barnghost thank you.
What happened to you was horrible, though I do need to correct one point: Kripke, the main writer of the show, stated in an interview that the SA stuff was supposed to be funny. He saw it as a joke, which is not cool on his part.
It just hurts that the women that were assaulted in the show and their scenes were treated so respectfully and then Hughie's wasn't, I am happy about Starlight's support at the end, but I honestly hope in the next chapter this isn't treated as a joke or an uneventful event
At the end where he breaks down was the moment I realized that it wasn't funny. I think Jack Quaid did an amazing job showing how traumatizing that experience was. I felt genuine sadness and remorse
This is the issue I have with it actually. When Starlight was assulted by the Deep, it was played as though it was horrible. And it WAS. Right off the bat. However, with this incident, and that one with The Deep and his gills, those were hammed up and not taken seriously DURING the incidents. And yes, what happened to the deep was messed up regardless of the horrible things he did to others.
@@cortster12 Literally just wrong on both accounts both instances were taken seriously.
@@cortster12 idk I felt like they were treated pretty seriously, the problem is the directors comments, given the way they’re portrayed in the show, I think the writers and actors where treating it with weight at least
@@msbkaioken136 Hughie's scene was absolutely shot and edited to have a comedic effect. Erik Kripke said in an interview that the intent was comedic.
@@lolusuck386 Another person that doesn't understand tone. Yes, the very beginning was comedic because they thought he was a someone else. That would have liked it when they found out who he was the tone clearly changed.
The problem is that the writer Kripke saying it's hilarious is sickening. As someone who was abused as a child, it's never hilarious. If he said starlight being abused by the deep was hilarious, he would have been strung up and lost his job.
Kripke is a piece of work. I like what he creates, but he himself is extremely questionable with his takes.
I think that when referring to this, he was saying that the funny thing is how ridiculous Tek Knight is, with all his Tek theme things and his obvious satire of Batman
It's sad, because they did the same thing to Sam Winchester. SA on man isn't funny, SA on women isn't funny.
Well at least he won't be dumb enough to do it twice this season to the same character
he didnt think that hughie getting abused in that way was funny, he thought that the whole concept of the tek cave, and the fact that hughie can never catch a break was funny. im pretty sure he made this clear at some point, but people are only looking at the part where he said “i think it’s hilarious” in response to someone talking about the tek cave.
For me, abuse being the source of humor depends entirely on 2 factors.
1) Who's relating the abuse (if the victim is talking about it in humorous fashion, e.g. comedian Christopher Titus)
2) If the abuse is utterly fantastical and/or comically over-the-top (e.g. Doofenshmirtz's family, with their dog "Only Son", and his parents failing to come for his own birth)
The scene in question def fits criteria 2.
also the 3rd catagory of you have to laugh or you'd start crying instead. humour is used to cope after all.
@@TGPDrunknHick Like when watching Joe Biden
If the show can joke about people killing each other then they can joke about abuse. Abuse isn't above death
Titus was great.
The book Hughie does get assaulted in the book and it’s dealt with in a way most people would sadly imagine. After assaulted, Hughie hides it and never speaks of it to anyone, only having sudden flashes of it happen. Towards the end of the series, he tells the rest of The Boys about it only when the story needs him to tell them and their response was “woah that’s crazy… anyway, back to what’s happening.” So I do commend this series and characters talking about the trauma after it’s happened instead of it bottling it up.
The TV version is definitely better than the comic! It's more sensitive psychologically!
The second I saw Hughie in WebWeaver's outfit I braced myself for what was probably going to happen.
I read the comics a few years after they came out and I've noticed that the show likes to do mash ups of various parts of the comic series while following their own plots. I instantly saw a blending of the G-men episodes with the bits of Herogasm that didn't make it into Season 3.
So I kinda knew where this was heading.
I'm relieved that it wasn't so horrible and out of the blue as it was in the comics. Where Hughie thinks Noir has made him and now he's dead, just for Noir to violently SA him and leave him alive to have a full on panic attack. Then Hughie has to pull himself together and carry on and never gets to unpack what happened or get any sympathy.
The tv series built the scene up well, making it a bit harmless and silly at first, then pushing to non-consensual but not awful acts to make the viewer uncomfortable, until the reveal where Hughie is about to be full on assaulted. And Hughie gets to talk about it in the end and gets sympathy and compassion in return.
The watcher was carefully primed for the final scene, where as the comic reader was just thrown into a sudden assault just for the shock value. But then, much of the comics was there for the disgust or shock factor so it could be downright cynically awful in it's narrative.
I definitlely like how the show doesn't shy from the themes of the comic, but handles it in a mature way, often hand in hand with a dark humour that challenges the audience. It's so much better than the comics could ever aspire to be in so many ways.
❤❤Exactly.
That's literally what happened here. He mentions it once and it's over.
Thanks for this video. That episode made me uncomfortable and not many people seem to acknowledge that Hughie went through something bad. So I'm grateful you dealt with this issue.
i felt it was an important one thanks for watching
It made me very very uncomfortable. I'm glad Hughie at the end admitted he was not okay.
It started off as funny with the cake sitting and foot tickling but morphed into something sinister, I think this was quite a smart move because it changed the perspective of the same scenario. Almost like the way that SA on men isn’t always taken seriously until it got to a dangerous level. Whether or not that was the intention we can’t tell but I thought it was a powerful episode, especially with the final moment and admission that he isn’t ok.
I am so disgusted by the director for saying that. Lost so much respect for this show. How can you handle Starlight, Becca, and even the Deep’s assault seriously but NOT Hughie’s??? What the hell is up with that? This shit was NOT funny.
Male victims need to be treated with the same respect and dignity. I am so disgusted right now.
I think they did though. Having this big ridiculous scene where Hughie is being sexually assaulted in an almost comedic way and it being played off for laughs would absolutely be something that old-school media would've done in the past. The difference here is by including a scene with Hughie breaking down and crying at the end of the episode, telling starlight that he isn't ok. The writers are clearly showing that yes, men in fact can be sexually assaulted and it can absolutely break down because of it.
the humor isnt because of the assault but because of the fact that tek knight and ashley think it’s webweaver
I’m sorry but that’s not what the show was actually doing.
thats straight up standard woke feminism...are you just now realizing it's not after equality, it's plain misandry wearing a costume of virtue?
@@apokatastasian2831 “what if we used 0% of our brain”
8:00 - Tek Knight is actually completely aware that it's not Web Weaver under the suit for the majority of the episode. When they start talking up at the party, he notices that Web Weaver doesn't react to the musical note of his finger circling the glass. Then as Tek Knight enters the elevator behind Web Weaver, he looks down and can see there is no web shooter in the hole in the lower back of the suit.
🤦🏾♂️ it’s not a music note, it’s Tek knights obsession with holes and he’s trying to flirt, you’ve never seen someone do that before in any other show/movie. And in the elevator he was merely checking him out, so wrong
@@joecool2029 No, I think he's right. Tek Knight is a master detective, and you think he didn't notice that this was a fake WebWeaver?
@@rhettbaldwin8320 I agree, the camera showed the hole in the suit multiple times, it was clear for the audiance the web-hole was missing. Tek with his power simply wouldn't miss that. Hughie seemed like a reveal but I don't expect him to recognise an (im)famous stranger based on the information he had, but he definitely knew it was an imposter.
The boys also simply doesn't make flaws like that; the hole/webshooter was a deliberate choice not some random miss.
Jack Quaid's characters are really having the worst times right now.
Superman/Clark Kent and Hughie.
Just watch, Lower Decks Season 5 is gonna open with Boimler hit by a shuttlecraft or something.
@@commander144I keep thinking of Picard's "There are four lights!" moment.
I see a lot of reasons as to why people saw it as “funny”. I think the humor of the situation was the situational irony. The audience knew it was hughie as Webweaver but Tek Knight and Ashley didn’t so in their eyes it’s totally consensual. Once Tek figured out it was hughie and genuinely tried to assault him the tone shifted and was actually horrifying.
That's my take too.
At first, it's supposed to be consensual, Hughie is playing a role, and the juxtaposition of the over the top scene, Hughie trying to maintien his cover and trying to act like Webweaver, randomly screaming Spider words in the hope of finding the safe word.
But when his identity is revealed, it suddenly becomes horryfying.
And then you have the scene where Hughie breaks down : it starts with Hughie crying while revealing what Ashley did (which, again, was quite over the top), and I was smiling uncomfortably....but then it comes crashing down when things become real and he talks about his dad.
i was so confused seeing people's reaction
@@cirederfsamot2730hughie was broken down physically from the experience and then he broke down mentally due to his dad
@@cirederfsamot2730 even though i thought the situational part was hilarious, but took that balance of the darkness as the part that made me feel wrong for finding it funny. I think the wrtiers succeeded with what they were going for, because even when Hughie was saying what ashley did, i was not finding anything that happened to Hughie funny, and Jack Quaid has been remarkable at conveying that emotion throughout this whole show. i guess you can say for every 1 funny thing that happened, there were 2 levels of horrifying darkness, and thats what i got from the episode. i think it being polarizing might of been the point, it got people to react
@@DeRockMedia Then they didn't succeed because he did say it was funny and meant that way.
She got halfway there with male victims. We absolutely mock, degrade and gaslight them. As a result, it's only natural that they don't trust anyone with their feelings. The part she forgets is that we then flip the script and re-victimize them. We criticize them for being "toxic" or "stoic." We tell them we don't care what they went through, then we belittle them for not getting "help." We teach them to be one way to survive, then we mock them for using the only survival tool they have and call it "maladaptive". Instead of telling men to be vulnerable, society needs to actually prove they care. Until then vulnerability = stupidity.
This comment is a great breakdown of thoughts i had for a while now, thank u
I think the real issue here is the double standard. Whether or not this is funny in isolation is entirely subjective, but the fact of the matter is that in the current socio-cultural paradigm, you could never get away with having a female character in this situation, regardless of the creative context and intent.
I just posted a comment about this! Hughie's feet scene can be considered "humorous," but if there was a woman in his position it'd be terrifying to watch.
@@-Burch Exactly. As a raging "alt-right misogynist" all I want is TRUE gender equality! Either it's all okay, or none of it is.
Part way through it's clear Tek Knight figured out it's a ruse and kept doing it for sadomasochistic torture pleasure at Hughie's expense. Thats non consensual
Ashley was in on it too even if she knew it was hughie, whose to say she would have stopped?? She sadistically framed and got someone killed for rejecting her and got turned on laughing at Deep and A Train
It was nonconsensual from the start. Hughie's only choices were go along with it or die. If you only agree to something under the threat of death, that's not consent. Whether Tek or Ashley knew is largely inconsequential, because either way Hughie couldn't truly consent so it would still have largely the same impact.
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 True, she was part of it, but she definitely didn't know it was him, and there is a moment when, in a moment of confusion, she stops because she was told to stop by Hughie, regardless of if she thought it was Webweaver that told her to stop. Now, would she stop if she knew it was Hughie? Maybe, maybe not. She does know who he is and probably doesn't like him, but idk if she would be as bad as Tek Knight and not stop if she knew it was him that told her to stop.
@@themajesticspider-man6116 she got cameron coleman killed sadistically just for rejecting her sexually, ofc she’s almost as bad as tek knight? Would you say the same if Cameron and Ashley’s roles were reversed and cameron gets ashley killed brutally for rejecting him?
@@themajesticspider-man6116 By pretending to be someone else, it was in fact Hughie who violated the consent of the other two.
Personally i think when tek night mentioned the safeword. It was a nod to the audience he knew it was hughie. He didnt care but ashley would
How would Tek knight know the safe word if they didn’t discuss this before?
@@joecool2029because they did, just not with Hugie.
@joecool2029 the butler knew the safeword ( probably by eavesdropping )
@@joecool2029 also safeword aside when Hughie pulled his pants down I'm pretty sure tek saw an extra hole was missing
@@pupip55 you’re right, but for the most part Tek thought it was web weaver until the tickling happened
I love that we have Hughie as an emotional and empathic anchor in the show. I relate to him. Thanks for making this video about this serious topic.
Brilliant analysis, Georgia. Thank you for so much care and sensitivity to the subject.
thx = )
Using a BDSM dungeon as a place to be assaulted is causing so many misfires in my head, because the reality of that community is that it’s based on communication, trust and consent although the activities they participate in come off as harmful and violent, they become harmful and violent when the communication and trust breaks down. I remember having a nervous laugh at Hue’s distress because haha random acts of violence, before my brain clocked all the little pieces and then it was just not fun I wasn’t watching a funny gag anymore. I didn’t need to get to his breakdown later to understand.
He was already wasn’t coping well with his fathers death, threw himself into work hoping for a distraction just to be tortured, molested and almost killed by his childhood hero who’s toys was a bonding moment for him and his dad the memory of which was recently brought up in relation to his death. The man went though it and while it made me very uncomfortable it was depicted masterfully
On a lighter note I think the gimp 100% helped The Boys out because Tek Knight broke SO MANY rules, not confirming safe word before the session and having a session with someone clearly not consenting. Tek was even explaining how it’s all about trust when they went down there so there’s plently of reasons to assume he usually was a trustworthy host.
😅Lastly I despite my knowledge of it, I don’t participate. Researched it for an ethics paper and I’ve had a healthy respect ever since. Enjoy playing responsibly😊
The worst abuse I can recall being played for laughs is Miss Piggy and Kermit in the Muppet show. I'm a little surprised because Disney went out of their way to put a warning message on some of the episodes and not others. Some of the ones without the warning message were the worst offenders with Miss Piggy literally beating Kermit into submission. It's not funny. I don't remember Miss Piggy abusing Kermit in the movies, so I think Henson realized this as well.
The whole dad "I'm not ok" i felt that 😢😢i miss mine 1968-2018 RIP
Whether or not Tek Knight knew it was Hughie from the start is not the only question. The fact was that Hughie didn't want to be in that situation, as he was trying different safe words, but because of the whole nature of BDSM being "consent is assumed until it is officially withdrawn via a safeword", it was as if the writers wanted to meticulously construct a "funny" abuse scene, in which they could always say "ahahah but it wasn't really abuse because Tek Knight and Ashley thought it was consensual."
The horror for me is that Hughie was in a situation where no matter what he communicated, he couldn't stop what they were doing. Yes, Tek Knight being sadistic enough to try and cut into Hughie afterward is scary as well, but it's the victim's plight itself that is the most concerning, not just the mindset of the perpetrator.
I think a lot people blame the victim because if abuse is something outside of the victim's control then that opens the possibility that something horrible could happen to you outside of your control--and that's far too scary a concept for many people.😱 Instead it's easier to blame the victim.
That sounds right to me too! And I think that's a reason why people victim blame themselves, too-it's helps to think there's a way for you to stop it from happening again.
Reasons to cover current set of Inside Out movies:
-it’s movies about the mind
-We need to look at as if each emotion was a real person, toxic positivity, anxiety attacks, they call her ennui when it should be apathy
-the cosplay THE COSPLAY
You just wanna see how Georgia pulls an Anxiety cosplay with that massive grin Anxiety has, don't you? xD
In case anyone out there needs this: if you are processing a traumatic event, look into EMDR therapy. It is all about safely processing a traumatic event in small chunks and in a safe supportive environment. I am not a therapist, so excuse my very brief explanation.
I personally have been using this therapy for my own traumas and it's working. I felt so scared to even try it thinking the discomfort of processing the trauma was worse than the relief I would feel, but I was wrong. It has been life changing. It does take time, like all good therapy does, but is so worth it.
Georgia, thank you for this video. It's great, just like all the others.
I think people find the humor not in the fact that Hughie is held hostage (the tide totally turns once Hughie is revealed as the impostor and there is an explicit threat), but the fact that it, for me personally, you find your self laughing in spite of yourself until then at the WTF of it all...And I think it's very important that Hughie is given the chance to break down and admit that he isn't OK in front of Starlight, who is very supportive...
For me i think the laughter was from the absurdity and uncomfortably in the dungeon. That laughter was the turned to remorse when I saw Hughie break down
I experienced the scene in this exact way, not knowing whether I should laugh or not. I'm fairly sure the people making the show intended for this kind of reaction, framing the scene with this lovey-dovey '80's music and Ashley's ridiculous domme dialogue, and contrasting it with how shaky Hughie's laughter is and how tense the overall situation is.
She is only so supportive because it was written for her to be that way. If she were real a woman would not tolerate him being openly so weak
@@JamesBoyd-gt8bpI hope you can heal soon
@@irongiant3443 This!
The whole point of the scene is for you find the it morbidily funny, even though on a conscious level you know the situation is f*cked up. Then the shows turns it back at you by having Hughie breakdown.
That quote from the showrunner is particularly baffling because in interviews about Starlight's S1 assault, he talked about trying to make sure they approached it the correct way and got it right.... and when the same thing happens to Hughie, it suddenly becomes, "Lulz, we thought this was Grade A humor!"?
Both the Deep & Translucent got violated and no one cared.
That's the thing that bothered me, not even the scene itself, but the showrunner's view of the whole thing. He basically ignored the interviewer when they said that Hughie experienced SA and started going on about Batman x Tek Night and the dungeon and about how funny it was. Didn't acknowledge that it was SA once. So weird.
Eric Kripke’s a weird dude.
A lot of abuse is so absurd that if it weren’t so sad it probably would be funny. That’s part of why it’s such a mindf*ck. That doesn’t mean that the absurdity of abuse should at all take away from the amount of pain and trauma it causes though, or the actual real life gravity of it.
Even as a dark humor enjoyer, this was fucked up for me personally. Like I get it if it didn't actually traumatize Hughie that much and it would be a "funny" story to remember. I thought it was gonna be one when they saved Hughie and began to torture Tek Knight by donating his funds into movements he stood against, when Hughie seemed mostly unaffected by the shit that happened before. But when he remembered about this scene later when talking to Starlight, that was the problem.
Like why, Kripke?
I thankfully haven't gone through a traumatic event like Hughie, but as a cisgender male I see value is being able to not only see endure that abuse but also to cry from it. I have seen several comedy movies where men get S/A'd and the people around them laugh it off, or if they cry about it and try to talk about it they're called weak or that they aren't real men. it felt nice to finally see a piece of media that can take a dark situation, give it some comedic moments, but also let the character speak about how they feel. An added bonus for Annie being an S tier girlfriend for helping Hughie afterwards and not laughing.
You're straight killin it with the costumes along with the content and breakdowns
Tbh, I wasn’t so concerned for the SA Hughie was experiencing on the first watch. I was more concerned with Kimiko, Starlight and MM getting in time to save him. But when Hughie broke down to Annie afterwards, I felt horrible that I overlooked the SA scene. On the second watch, it broke my heart
15:33 "Sometimes we can be hit of the severity of what we've gone through weeks, months, even years after that effect when it kind of all comes to us"
Someone close to me, a good friend, passed away in November 15 of 2022. I cried a lot the day it happened, but it didn't fully hit me like a bullet train until a year later on the anniversary of their death. I didn't just cry when I woke up that day... I was whaled with pure emotional pain and agony, screaming my cries out because of how much it hurt, much unlike how I felt on the day they died. I still miss them tons. Rest in power, North.
This was a profoundly hard episoide for me to watch. I was not ok after watching it. I did NOT sleep well that night.
Relax man😂. Getting a little too emotional
Its the boys i dont know how youve come this far in the show and *now* its too much?
The way Hughie described it at first made me laugh, but the aftermath... shut me up real quick.
I took his "funny" description as "If I say it in a funny way, it'll hurt less" but that's projecting from my part
I liked how the episode did it. The way that the kind of stuff tek knight starts apparently silly (like farting on a cake) and then the scene starts to shift tone gradually to a more serious one made me go from "lol thats weird" to a "omg please someone help him" and then finally at his breakdown I was feeling bad for even laughing at the cake scene. Like as if the show did the first scene on tek knights pov (as he saw everything as kinky foreplay) and gradualy switched to hughie pov. At least that's how I interpreted this subplot.
Ashley was in on it too even if she knew it was hughie, whose to say she would have stopped?? She sadistically framed and got someone killed for rejecting her and got turned on laughing at Deep and A Train
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674simple : the first time Hughie maskerading as Webweaver said "stop", she did and she looked confused, almost worried. She keeps going only after Tek Knight's reassurance that Webweaver is into it.
Ashley is a bad person, she is petty and vengeful, but she does have limits, and she never showed any signs of being willing to SA anyone
@@cirederfsamot2730 having limits doesnt make her redeemable
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 not what I said, and not even the discussion at hand. You were asking how to know if she would have stopped if asked to. She proved she would in the exact same scene.
@@cirederfsamot2730 she wouldnt have stopped
I'll be honest, after watching the episode of the show and this, I had a hard time afterwards processing my own trauma again. This helped me recognize a lot of the things I can't really put into words sometimes. Thank you for making this 😭
Am I the only one who thinks that the scenes after Hughie is revealed aren't even MEANT to be funny? Like ok, conceptually Tek Knight playing such upbeat music while preparing something terrible is kinda funny. But those screams and sobs of Hughie's are so raw that I don't think anything afterwards is even trying to be particularly funny. It's one thing to find the humour in Hughie going so deep undercover that he needs to feign consent in light BDSM, but I don't actually see much suggesting that the show was trying to get laughs out of Hughie's distress of being SA'd and mutilated.
100% you put this perfectly.
The director called it "hilarious".
@@secondhandevil Congratulations on being told what he said instead of actually reading the article yourself he was referring to tech knight and how he's like a batman allegory doing these crazy things.
Still, I don't think SA scenes should have any funny undertones or moments. It feels gross.
@@msbkaioken136 I've read the interview. He did call it hilarious. He said he was shocked that people found the scene of Hughie being SAed uncomfortable. He said how part of what made it funny for him came from the fact that Tek Knight was also Hughie's childhood hero.
Like, was Starlight's SA scene funny because it was an Aquaman allegory being a scumbag? No, of course not.
Thank you for touching on the subject with the care that it deserves
i havent even seen the video completley and i can absolutely affirm this is a great great video, congrats, keep going!
aww thank you, means a lot as this was a very important video for me
i went though a lot of BS in m y childhood, and joking about it is def a way for me to cope. I know if i got all serious and stuck up about it then i would have never dealt with it properly. Therapy never worked for me because the therapists just treated me like a normal "text book" example of a child who was molested by a trusted family member. not everyone is the same and psychology is great, but if the therapist isn't willing to learn the patient and treat the patient and care more about treating the situation, then it fails. Watching hughey go through that and then seeing his final reaction was great and in my opinion realistic. Him having someone like Starlight to trust and comfort him is key, she knows "HIM". the real him. If they would have just played this scene off as a joke and never referenced it again, then it would be in poor taste.. but just like Starlight's first season abuse (which wasn't funny nor meant to be), the abuse had a story line effect and wasn't just in the show for kicks.
And i can see that the humor wasn't directly focused on "lol man gets sex'd against his will" and more at how absurd Tek Knight's kinks are.
But i also know that not everybody deals with trauma the same. i try not to judge people when they are triggered by things i find funny. They were obviously able to deal with their trauma in a different way than i did. I had to rely on myself to make myself feel safe again and humor was their for me. Hell i was even told by another family member that i should just listen to my therapist and let him brainwash me so i could deal with it better- cause they didn't like my humor. and that stuck with me and is probably the reason why i distrust opinions from people "just because they have a degree in something" one of the smartest people i know told me that i should just get brainwashed instead of being myself....
So sorry this happened to you - it’s so important in dealing with trauma to feel heard and seen. I hope you are healing and have found good people to surround yourself with. Thank you for sharing it will help others speak out and know they deserve to be heard. Wasn’t your fault I’m sorry those meant to support you didn’t
Georgia, amazing video as always.
I wanted to share a little knowledge nugget: as a member of the community, you learn about Sub-drop which is a term for post "play" where the 'bottom' feels very negative about themselves for the actions during play, words that were said, etc. and therefore aftercare is a super critical part of playing. (Btw Doms/Tops can experience "top-drop" which is when they feel guilty for saying or doing things in play and also require aftercare to connect with their partner and pull them out of that negative mindset.)
The way I saw the "I'm not ok scene" was It jumps to Annie talking about the CCamps, and Hughie is by himself before he drops. They're both inexperienced with regards to the things in the cave, and both didn't know that aftercare might be important to talk out what Hugie went through and have Annie console him and help bring him up out of that pit. Which I thought was an extra facet of this heavier episode.
And yes, this is trauma, not a consensual "bunny dog salamander mule" experience, but I think had Annie taken steps to take care of him after this experience he may not have dropped so hard so suddenly.
I firmly believe if Frenchie was present he would have known the importance of aftercare since he's been in a slave to Little Nina, who I'm sure knows how to take care of a submissive to keep them under her thumb. Hugie may have rejected Frenchie trying to cuddle with him (lol) but I think he could have communicated to Annie the few things she could be doing differently to console Hugie after that event.
Just remember, reader of this comment, you can have spicy fun, keep it safe, sane, and consentual. Talk boundaries before play, establish a safe word. Clean up and clean yourself when you're done. Reconnect during aftercare and talk about the good, if anything was bad, and you can turn what might be a scary scenario into a fun and enjoyable and healthy release.
Thank you Georgia for the nuanced look at a topic not well dealt with in society. As you mentioned I think certain ways fiction can approach a subject are a great way to prompt discussions often avoided otherwise. Really appreciate driving home the point that different people process trauma or grief differently.
I think it was great of you to discuss the nuance of humor/ laughing as just a part of a trauma response or background while hold firm that it is not ok to mock or laugh at someones abuse *for funsies*
your dedication to your work is exceptional
thank you for spreading the awareness
Thanks you this video was very important to me and I hoped it would help raise awareness for others
Thanks for making psychology understandable through media!
I truly appreciate you talking about these things
this is the most insightful take I've seen on this episode and the issue of abuse depictions on tv in general! you made me realize sometimes the conversation isn't about abuse itself, it's about how different people deal with abuse and other things like humor and trauma. nuance and empathy are important so that we don't have the typical internet "black and white" or right vs wrong argument.
Aw you said it. It is okay to not be okay. That is one of the gems of wisdom I found along the way.
i love their relationship so much. there’s been a few subtle but big moments where they’ve leaned on each other this season, like with this episode or with firecracker disclosing annie’s abortion. i didn’t expect to cry over them this morning lmao
nooooo not that suit😭😭
Given his character, I think the 'lesser' assault would have more of an impact on Hughie.
Hughie is the kind of person that focuses well in dangerous survival situations and packs the trauma away for later.
From day one Butcher saw this in him and has been grooming Hughie ever since. He's been forcing Hughie to do things that would result in his instant death if he were caught, prepping him and numbing him to it. He threw Hughie in the deep end and watched to see if he could swim. And it turned out that Hughie was a natural swimmer in those waters, so Butcher kept applying the pressure until Hughie was used to it.
The episode before showed this aspect of his character. While everyone one else was screaming and running around when his dad started showing super powers, Hughie was calm and did what needed to be done. He can focus down to the moment in situations like that, even when it's deeply personal. What was a natural talent has been honed over the last few years until he's completely numb to it.
But during the 'lesser' assault he was in safer waters, everyone thought he was someone else. Due to the nature of the s*x scene, he'd have to really mess up to give the game away. Unless he said the safe word he could squirm and act weird all he wanted - that's what's expected of him. And because he was safer, he actually experienced everything that was happening to him. The lack of control, the physical abuse, the things Ashley was saying. He's out of his numb mental zone and taking it all in, so it would effect him more.
The stuff with Tek Knight afterwards would put him back into that numb space, that space he goes to when he needs to focus on surviving. Where part of him isn't Hughie at all. His brain has been trained to make a space for this type of fear, then to bag it up in a place where Hughie won't touch or return to. In the 'lesser' assault he is all Hughie, in the Tek Knight assault, he is only partially there.
As someone who naturally does this when in dangerous situations and then has to sit down and unpack it later, I see Hughie very clearly in these moments. One day, if he makes it out, the numb part of his brain will come and cash its cheques and he'll spend years in therapy unpacking it all, but right now his mind is doing its best to protect him.
Thank you for a nuanced and supportive look at a problematic issue via a troubling episode of television.
Okay, so is anyone outraged that Translucent is held hostage and then killed by an explosive suppository? I think there's questionable moralising around the Tek Knight scene because our protagonists put themselves in mortal danger constantly. There's abuse going on in the show all the time, and it is often dark and comedic. Some people obviously find gaslighting and psychological torture less problematic than what happens to Hughie, but he is also pretending to be someone giving consent. And Hughie is clearly affected by it, and Annie is clearly supportive. People need to adult while watching adult shows.
Just like what happened to the Deep. No one really cared because he was scummy.
And to your point about Translucent. Unless if I missed something, nothing ever came out about any real messed up things he did. Yet no one cared he got caged, violated and murdered.
It's all bad, some don't make the connection.
Apples and oranges.
Your the best, I didn’t know I needed this video, also your costumes are awesome ,
This show from s1e1 could have had a warning at the beginning of each episode, by season 4 only dark humor types are likely watching. Like Georgia's breakdown as always. Is a good idea to deal with your demons before you like playing with them and become one.
Hey dark/morbid humor is different from what I assume you are referring to, which is grotesque "humor".
be an adult. They put a rating. You wanted to watch it, now decide where to go w/ what you’ve seen
Yeah to be fair most shows aren’t dark. It’s okay if we have a few for people who enjoy it or don’t know they might. Overall most shows have been action or drama. Those people who don’t like that and want dark humor don’t have an outlet. Most even boys aren’t dark enough for them. Sounds dumb but people watch hostile and saw for fun. We’re not all super against violence for story.
Yeah. The dark stuff is awesome. The disgusting gross out trash would just be purely immature if it wasn't so vile. This latest episode with Web weaver's web is just gross for gross' sake. Nothing humorous or interesting about that. Just garbage that begs to be skipped past.
@@nichescenes arguably people who need that outlet are not mentally well and need at the minimum a psych eval but Im picking up what you are putting down
Commenting before the next episode comes out and I do want to say it will depend on where they go with it next. It seems like he is actually traumatised so it isn't making light of it but showing the damage it has caused him. I also do want to point out consent by fraud is a crime which is actually what he was doing here albeit not knowingly, stuff like this has actually happened where someone has consented to have sex with one person only for that person to swap with someone else. Clearly Tech Knight had spent a lot of time talking to this person and learning what they like and there had been a discussion beforehand about safe words, hard limits and other preferences. Hughie showed up pretending to be that person. Also here is a quote I learned in High School that applies here:
The safeword is the word you use in S/M sex that means "stop"; ... it's something innocuous, like "red", "blue", "tree", "table", whatever, so I said to my friend Bucky, who was teaching me about safewords, "But Bucky, what happens if you forget the safeword? Red, blue, green, yellow, onomatopoeia, front-loading dishwasher, what?!" She said, "Maggie, you say 'I forgot the safeword, you idiot!'
Well, that's reassuring!
I have to come back to this now the season has ended and omfg was I part of Sages plot because wow
Honestly, this episode was the final straw for me. I love a lot of things about this show, I'm not afraid of gore or violence or whatever, and I don't have some major ethical objection to the material.
It just feels ugly to watch and makes me unhappy watching it. So... yeah.
I was really hoping, earlier in the season, that they were letting up on the grossout/violent/juvenile stuff. The scene in the lab seemed appropriate to the narrative. This? enh.
All I’m going to say is that if the gender roles were reversed and it was Annie who got SAed instead of Huey, there would be MASS outrage.
I get the impression from our culture that when men get…attacked, it’s not to be taken seriously.
And let me tell you, growing up as a male with pressure from society to never allow myself to be vulnerable has led to some unhealthy coping mechanisms such as stress eating and chronic depression.
Maybe it’s just a me problem, but it always felt wrong to pretend like everything is fine, not just to myself, but to the few people who genuinely cared about my wellbeing.
If I ever have a son, I don’t want him to feel as though he’s never allowed to be himself, and must always pretend to be stoic 100% of the time.
Maybe it works for some people, but certainly not for everyone.
Being vornable to the wrong people to the wrong people can make things 10x worse
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that is what i hope to do. thank you so much for this comment and for taking the time to let me know. These videos are a lot of time and effort and is rewarding to hear when they have helped others.
Imo its funny because Tek Knight is a satire of Batman, the real ways his family made money, his black Alfred, and his questionable relationship with Robin and Nightwing
So it’s a satire by being the complete opposite of the character? 😂
@@Longshanks1690It's satire because of their similarities and how they're spinning it in this interpretation I don't think you know what satire means bro.
@@msbkaioken136 Satire should ring close to home. So even though it’s not remotely accurate, it’s depictions of events has you laughing along because you see the similarity or you see how the humour is conveying a serious point. That is what makes it satire.
If it’s got nothing to do with the original thing it’s satirising beyond a surface level aesthetic and the humour - if there is any - comes from how unlike the original thing it is, then it’s failed as a satire. It’s just thoughtless mockery at that point, which can be funny in its own right, but it’s no longer satire then.
@@Longshanks1690 And where exactly is that definition coming from yourself? In order to make it into the tiny box you want it to be. The entire point of satire is to exaggerate aspects of characters, which is exactly what this is doing dude, you sure are yapping a lot and saying a whole lot of nothing.
It started out funny, then became horrible later!
Love how you handled this topic! 👏🤍
appreciate that it was something I felt was important to cover
that scene in the Boys is wierdly complex.
Hughie is going undercover, so his undercover role is someone who says yes and consents, and that the scene begins this was a coessential act. he literally fools the dom into starting the session, and the scene carries on with that.
we as the viewer are in on the deception, and hughies fear, unwillingness and discomfort, and yeah. thats freaking horrid.
Before the cover is blown i would argue that hughie has consented to this role (at least until he starts looking for the safe word).
its the deception that curses the scene here. if it was the Aracnid (or whatever definitely not spiderman is called in the boys) and he had forgotten the safeword he would have had the choice to just ask what the safe word was, and any partner worth their time would read that and safety precautions would kick in. But because hughie is a spy it adds another layer of danger on top of the coessential play.
which is very clearly described by the second part of the scene where tek knight says the worst possible line ("everyone has the same holes over and over again, so. im going to make some new ones"). Hughie would be in horrible danger without this set up and horrible consequences.
its interesting how much more up the scale of horror adding a sexual component to the danger adds, just the previous episode he nearly got laser eyed to deat, and before that he nearly got sheeped to death. both nasty ways to go. im not surprised ad im definitely not invalidating that horror, i think im just drawing attention to the fact there are a hundred horrid ways to die in that show that no one cares about, an the fact "oh, he nearly got shot by a dozen self replicating naked pervs, thats normal and fine" is a wierd lack of reaction.
Amazing analysis on a super heavy subject. Consent during any type of “sec” is always important, whether it’s before or during. Hughie actor is great.
Also when the ad for “The Getaway” popped up and I saw you “ I was like that Leo Decaprio meme
Abuse in my eyes is NEVER funny I feel like in this show in much as I love this show when it comes to stuff like this I do not think they treated hughie the same when it comes with starlight and her SA I think it all kinda stems from the issue that it’s serious when it’s a woman victim versus funny when it happens to a dude
I've also seen too many men support this stereotype. Whenever I ask, "What if a woman suddenly touched you inappropriately without your consent?" and their response is usually, "I wish they would!!"
@@suicune2001 I'd be disgusted
it's not the same thing.
First of all, Ashley has no intention to SAed Hughie, she was under the presumption that he was Webweaver.
Second of all, Hughie's SA was much much less graphics than Starlight's. That's why they can show it on screen.
Third of all, just because they show it onscreen doesn't mean they don't treat this stuff seriously. They literally have a scene of Hughie breaking down and talk about it afterwards, with Starlight showing concern the whole time.
And you would just be objectively wrong and missing the point. Just like so many people, there is a very clearly different tone from the beginning of the encounter to the end. Like Jesus Christ stop trying to be the joke police acting like no one can joke about something. It's so ridiculous also, maybe pay attention to the actual show, bro.
@@suicune2001When it comes to men the answer would vary based off of multiple different factors. When it comes to women the answer is usually almost always a no men and women are different though.
@Georgia Dow : Post ASD/ADHD meltdown (or burnout) clarity is one of the most sobering things I've ever felt. The clarity is unreal. Everything you misread or missed comes into view. I often think ASD's are very logical people, but they often miss pieces of the puzzle. So large mistakes aren't necessarily any kind of delusion. They are a misconception or mistranslation.
Abuse to men happens on screen
Society: 😂 lmao man up
Abuse to women on screen
Society: whoa whoa this is wrong!
The boys "writers" probably slap their knees each time Hughie gets abused or insulted by someone. Its the only reason they though it was funny, because Hughie is The Boys' punching bag, for whatever reason. I like the series but there are times when I really want to ask what the heck is wrong with them
I think anything can be funny, but I think people are also right to have a problem with a show portraying sexual abuse of a woman as straightforwardly terrible and traumatic and the abuse of a male as a joke.
100%. The incident with the Deep and his gills, and now this, were not taken too seriously during them. Compared this to Starlight being assaulted by The Deep, which wasn’t played for laughs at all.
@@secondhandevil Maybe they would, if that's what was going on here, which absolutely isn't the case which is something that you would know if you actually did any research on what you were talking about before yapping.
@@cortster12 Once again you can repeat the same objectively wrong talking points isn't going to make it any more right bud.
i don't think this was a joke, maybe the part with the cake but as soon as hugie was tied down it was horrifict to watch and hugie + starlight reaction was correct and very human
@@msbkaioken136
What wrong points? I watched the episodes, and that's how it happened.
Here for this analysis
i found no humor in this section, but at the same time i didnt take this as a funny moment at all to begin with other than tek knights cave. and i think they cover that at the end of the episode...so while this happened and people just focused on this point i think it still comes full circle
The writer literally said Hughies submissive role in this scene was supposed to be funny.
@@53knightssource?
@@53knightsthe parts with Ashley are deliberately silly. They take a turn when he gets unmasked.
@@jonathonnorden4859I’m pretty sure they’re referencing an article by Variety including an interview with Kripke: “‘The Boys’ Showrunner on Hughie’s Sticky Tek Knight Encounter, That Zendaya Reference and Firecracker’s Big-Hearted Gift to Homelander” by Jennifer Maas.
Except for he literally didn't and your lying you are misquoting the article.
NAAAAAW NOT THE WEB WEAVER OUTFIT
lol
They totally negated the scene where Annie consoles him in the last episode of S4. He gets his consent violated again in a big way and Annie blames him for it, the show runners don't correct him and Hughie fist pumps over being "forgiven" for the violation to his consent. Really frustrating.
I'm someone that whatever I've experienced, I look for it in media. I want to see similar stories told. What I wouldn't want to see is cruelty in itself, like writing that targets real world vulnerabilities. I understand that people can get triggered whatever the intent, but a lot of the time when horrible stuff happens to a character, you are them, and you're meant to tag along as he overcomes it. It can backfire when they don't take it seriously enough or when they do it more for shock value.
The other thing hate is when the writers are douchebags and they write the characters to be casually cruel and it's unintended. I remember thinking that "Buffy" dialogue, I grew up with the reruns, fit this category of a show that didn't age well. Or "Friends" episodes that marginalize lgbt characters, etc.
I went into this thinking "Here we go with the 'this episode bad, no more the boys', and yet you articulated everything I said and felt in a much more professional and impressive manner
Perfect acting🙌🏾
The humor came from having how big of freaks tek knight and Ashley are suddenly dropped on us, only to see it escalate. We hear about the "infamous" tek cave expecting to see something on par with the batcave, only to be hit with one chair covered in phalluses, a gimp tied up in a corner, and one laptop. Even when Tek knight is about to kill Hughie, it was written to be as true to his character as possible in the most shocking way imaginable. I think it was actually really interesting how they balanced the tone. The tone of the episode itself at first DOES come off as silly, perfectly paralleling how Hughie is suppressing his own emotions regarding his current situation and his recent loss. Idk, i guess it could have been done more respectfully, but at the same time its rare something like this is attempted
I know it would be a lot of work but I recommend making playlists on Nebula, like how you have playlists on youtube. I assuming it's coming but I don't see this video on Nebula yet.
thanks great suggestion i will see if they have that
I hated the abuse stuff
Congratulations? Did you think you were supposed to be rooting for a tech kight?
In the newest game of Yakuza "Like a Dragon" the main character is SA'd like three times & played as a joke but after the first event happened I looked up the others to avoid them because it made me so uncomfortable. Luckily a lot of people on Reddit had already made an entire discussion & list for people who wanted to avoid it.
Appreciate the time and video! I just recently started watching your videos and find them super informative and helpful. I don't know if you keep up with video game media but have you seen God of War 2018 and Ragnarok? There is a fantastic Father/son dynamic that I think would be an interesting topic
I love love LOVE what ur doing for ppl 😌
appreciate that so much it is my whole hope with this channel = ) reach more people to help to educate and hopefully in some cases let them know they are not alone
I really stuggled to watch this part of the episode. Poor Hughie, hes been through enough shit as it is and his truma is just getting worse. I hope he gets a happy ending, he bloody deserves it
As someone who has been an abuse victim, I think if there is any place to find humor in abuse is in fiction. In real life no type of abuse is humorous. But I feel when we look at shows, books, movies, it can be okay to find the humor in traumatic situations. It’s in fiction where we can have such intense moments in such a way where as objective 3rd parties to the situation we can see how it can be funny because we can see the situation for more perspectives than just living through it.
I found a lot of humor in the sex dungeon scene. I think the scenario of being undercover in a sex dungeon, and pretending to be into all that freaky stuff when ur actually vanilla as ice cream, pretty funny. But the specifics of what Huey went through especially for his character was hard to watch, specifically towards the very end after he got caught. But it’s also for the purpose of developing his character. People say the moment at the end of the episode wasn’t enough to justify the scene but the season is not done yet. It’s likely the repercussions will be lasting over the rest of the show.
I like your survivor's view of this scene!
I would love to see a video of Georgia talking about Guts from Berserk
I do not think the show went "too far". By the end of the episode Hughie's trauma is addressed seriously. Earlier in the episode, hughie is truly believed to be web weaver, Tek Knight even says "I know this is a little vanilla compared to what your used to". The humor comes from the misunderstanding and the shock of what Tek Knight is into, as opposed to assault in of itself. The situation doesnt get serious until Tek Knight finds out who Hughie is and truly threatens to violate him. Thats when the wrtting makes it no longer funny and actually takes it seriously.
Can you make a video about Todd and the scene where he meets his hero Homelander? Breaking down that scene would be amazing
😭 the web weaver suit noooooo!
According to Anime: Yes when men get hit by women for the woman"s fault not locking the door.
Acording to any other media: Same as anime but its in other ways too.
Most comedies rely on the male being the punching bag if there are equal or near equal ratio of male and female.
Thanks Georgia for covering this. I gotta give it to the fans too for calling out that writer for that comment that the scene “hilarious”.
People might have laughed at the situation. But many fans were horrified for Hughie at every turn of that scene.
I thought this episode really did a good job of turning Hughie's torture from something funny to something serious. When you first see it, you think it's just part of their usual gross-out humor (and Jack Quaid's comedic, "I'm fine, this is fine" lines during made it humorous). However, when Starlight hears about this happening and becomes very serious and compassionate, it totally changed the way we saw it. Not a lot of stories can flip the script so seamlessly and change the tone without it seeming jarring.