Homelander. Kills. Everyone. Therapist Analysis - The Boys Season 4 Episode 4
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Psychotherapist Georgia Dow dives into the complex psyche of Homelander from The Boys. She examines how his insatiable need for love and adoration leads him to lose his humanity, unraveling the psychological battles that define his character. Explore the depths of Homelander's mind and understand the cost of his relentless pursuit of validation in this compelling analysis.
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Dressing as a female Homelander makes 50% of us confused...strangely...
hello. by any chance, were you an elementary teacher?
Your analyses are so incredible, deep and empathetic. Would love to see your take on Sister Sage. :)
Homelander: a therapists worst nightmare and a psychologists biggest paycheck
Until he inevitably lasers the psychologist.
@@Sunthaz fair point but the paycheck's still boutta be huge
I think his version of therapy is brutally murdering everyone who raised him
@@thememeslinger7506 Very true. Let us just take it as a reminder money is not everything. 😅
@@Sunthazhigh risk, high reward
Barbara was cruel and up front because she knew there was zero chance they were getting out of there alive. She knew he came to kill them all and there was no deescalation possible.
Or she just talked to him the way all other authority figures, like Stan, know how to speak to him. Bluntly and condescendingly.
Homelander is a great example of “hurt people, hurt people.”
I don’t think Barbara was trying to de-escalate the situation, I think this was more of a Sam Edgar situation. She knows that Homelander came down to kill them all and so now she’s just laying out her true feelings about him and his situation - like hey if I’m going to die I’d like to know that the nails of my coffin pierced you too.
A video on Sage would be awesome shes the most interesting new character this season
One thing about the motivation of the woman in the massacre scene, speaking as she did. This is something I've noticed about Voight management. They treat Homelander, as a boy growing up, and here, just like they treat a recalcitrant employee.
I think it's possible she also saw the writing on the wall. Homelander was fishing for some unvarnished truth about his childhood and treatment, and wasn't going to leave until he got it and he was going to do whatever he was going to do. So she gave him the thing he wanted, seemingly accepting that by this point, they'd just have to weather his reaction.
I wish I had you as a therapist. Just hearing you talk about the way we suppress our emotions and figuring out what makes you happy really touched me. I struggle with chronic depression and it has gotten much worse over the last few years. My brother blamed me for my dads Alzheimer’s and said it was my fault. Even though I know logically he is wrong I’m still stuck and feel like my mental health had an impact on him. My brother was someone I looked up to so much as a child and just like homelander having that last sort of fatherly figure reject and turn on you. Even though I know he’s wrong I still hear his words in my head every day. Telling me I should’ve saved my family the trouble and offed myself as a teen. This inner dialogue you talk about is so hard to fight. And I’ve had therapists talk to me about it before but the way you talk about it somehow gets through to me better. Thankyou for this video. I know it wasn’t for me but I feel like it helped a little.
i am so happy that it was helpful and i appreciate you sharing this it will help others also. I hope you continue to heal
I actually think the smiling is about his own freedom. that may be the first time, in all his life, that he killed teh very people that groomed him into what he had become. That he freed himself of that pain, that past. I think that it's not much about his humanity and ego than his own satisfaction and ability to think "and now they cannot do anthing more to me or my son". The way he does it, is like an internal joke, somehow, so maybe it also dawned to him the fact he could have done it so much earlier.
I feel like the Homelander Storylines are something out of a Camus novel. The man is driven absolutely insane by the absurdity of the situation, and not just the powers but the attitude and behavior of everyone around him.
It reads like Vought is a narcissistic parent and he's granted the power to strike back, but there is no physical body to retaliate against so he just rages against the world.
Probably also explains why he has so much contempt for humans.
@@11FBA11 they are the ones running the lab.
I would like to see a psycho analyzation of Sister Sage and the burdens of carrying her intelligence
She is the mirror reflection of The Watchmen. Creating this solitude for one of the most powerful beings in the world
So, still want it
I shouldn't like how well Georgia wears her Homelander costume as well as she does
I post this a minute into watching the video, so I'm looking forward to her insights into Johnnyboy's character
Homelander is like Superman but without the moral restraint!
We have seen that for more than 3 seasons now. But thanks for sharing this insightful thought.
Superman had an amazing family behind him. Homelander had those psychopaths
@@aaronstorey9712 Yes, the Kents did give Superman a great upbringing!
29:10 I think she realized that no one was getting out of that situation alive. So, she was going to be as brutally honest as she could. Better to do that then to lie and be scared of what Homelander would do next.
Homelander was conditioned to never be happy with himself on his own, and to seek the approval of Vought's CEO. Unfortunately, now that he IS Vought's defacto CEO, he's trapped himself in a loop of constantly needing approval from the one person in the world he can't get it from. Himself.
True. Which is why Stan Edgar said he will regret it. He has no one to give him guidance, nor anyone to blame. So he needed someone like sister sage. Or reinstate Stan as ceo.
I like how he brought the ice cream cake to the lab while intending on killing everyone there. It was a beautiful scene that was literally the icing on the cake.
this scene was probably one of the best so far in the boys because of how they incorporated the graphic content seamlessly into the context of homelander's revenge quest. Every act of torture was designed to mirror how he was experimented on and treated. Barbara likely has advanced psychologic training allowing her to manipulate homelander (as well as maternal presence that keeps him from killing her possibly due to conditioning), however it failed when homelander executed the rest of her staff by hand as a show of control over barbara and locked her inside with the remains like the animals they used to leave him with. Absolutely brilliant on all levels, of writing and storytelling, i can't wait to see Homelander's continued spiral in season 4
I didn’t watch season four episode four yet, but seeing the title “Homelander kills everyone “feels like I’ve been spoiled. . .
I will forgive if you make more AOT videos 😊
Nah no main character deaths. You're good.
Homelander killing someone is hardly a spoiler if you are up to season 4. It would be more of a spoiler if he didn't.
Im glad you adressed the point about soldier boy calling him a dissapointment i think that was one of the final nails in the coffin for homelanders last shred of sanity and it effected him profoundly
i've said for a long time now that i have felt sorry for Homelander. people think that makes me a Nazi sympathizer, but sympathy does not equal agreement. I feel sorry for him, but trauma does not excuse behavior. My sympathy originally was due to compound V seeming to have some sort of mental/emotional degradation on the individual. almost every supe has some sort of heightened disorder. we see it a lot more in Gen V. Even Starlight is affected by this, but she has managed to fight through most of those issues - maybe with the help of Hughey or a combination of other things, but we see that even she was a bully when she was a kid. but that is also my point of "trauma doesn't excuse behavior" Starlight managed to overcome or at least hide/ignore whatever intrusive thoughts she has - for the most part. I mean she did mess Firecracker up.... don't blame her TBH, but still it was an over reaction that any normal human would be held accountable for (Assault is assault, even if it was for a good reason).
I didn't know the full details of Homelander's back story, but i knew he was grown and raised and tested on, his story is tragic. An what he has chosen to do with his power is even more so. Instead of helping those who were helpless like he felt, he chose to become like those that harmed him. He saw that harm as power and since he was powerful, he feels like that power over him was his. and now he uses fear as a form of obedience. I highly doubt they will do a redemption story for him. Too many people would be mad due to the political nature that he embodies. But i would love to see some sort of attempt at redemption, ending with him sacrificing himself to save the world or something cheesy... but i want it to have story, not just a "oh final episode, pushes asteroid into sun and falls into the sun's gravity well which is just too strong for him where he burns like he did in the oven until he dies of old age...."
but at least it looks like A Train is getting a redemption.
Yes yes and yes I was kinda waiting for you to do another Boys video especially on Homelander keep these videos coming all through this fourth season of The Boys.
Homelander keeping his grey hair reminds me of Yoshikara kira from JoJo keeping his finger nails.
Him smiling in anger and trying to wipe it off when he scared Ryan into running off is so relatable. No one is there but even when you’re free to remote in privacy the mask compulsion to smile supercedes the authentic emotion.
Georgia Dow Please do Mike a video on psychiatrist Of Virgil From Devil may cry
This episode explained how Stan Edgar was able to deal with Homelander.
Homelander is a perfect example of how forgiving isn’t always about the people you are forgiving it’s for you to be free.
I've always been torn on Homelander being the "villian"...yeah, he's a complete psychopath but he is 100% a product of his environment.
He has never know a normal life, so how doesn't anyone expect him to resemble ANYTHING normal?
The 1st few episodes he's simply protecting those he sees as important...but he wasnt the bad guy.
I do wonder why Barbara came back if she could have just taken a permanent trip to Belize after hearing that Homelander found them and is there. She knows that she’s a dead person the moment she confronts Homelander.
Great video! Great analysis! I absolutely love the extra touch of you dressing up like homelander. Good work
inhumane test creates human monsters
They should have let him go outside and play as a child.
I was waiting for this video as soon as I watched the episode: thank you so much!!
I was watching this season with... well... the boys and we were straight up talking about how this would be interesting to see Georgia talk about
I'm confused how did Sage know John has been washing his hands more often ?
often it is cracked flaky skin but i would assume he would not show those signs. Nice catch
Hi, is there anything planned on the punisher. I really want to learn more about franks Ptsd etc.
I second that! I noticed that the Punisher had an irrational sense of disgust in his conversation with Daredevil in Season 2. I'd love to see his PTSD, disgust, etc. looked at.
I'm not sure how I feel about the cosplay, but I appreciate the committment. 😂❤
heh, never was that early to a video on YT
Those pieces that you lose, that tell you what makes you happy. How do you get them back?
Thanks for coming back to this character. So much to talk about. Great vid.
I cant wait for more! I dont watch a lot of the shows you cover but there are plenty of paychologically fascinating characters in television!
Wild to me that so many people thought he was right for getting revenge. It isn't right that they did that to him, but I hope people can see how that was a bad way to address his issues
“He could’ve gone to hospital” no man wants to live after that.
Love the face that Soldier Boy was right. But they did not know he was that way thru design.
Can't wait for when they adapt the rest of the show.
29:40 She is talking sternly to Homelander because Homelander never kills people who are not scared of him. It becomes a challenge for him and he likes challenge. Eg: Butcher.
If Barbra was smart she would've let the right ppl know she was going there and possibly get rescued. Cant imagine her being in there for too long.
Can you react to the amazing digital circus
See I saw this as Homelander confronting his childhood abusers and choosing to go “no contact.” He’s a cycle breaker (mostly). 😂
Is she cosplaying as Homelander while psychoanalyzing Homelander?
I have found my wife, ya'll.
After listening to just the first couple minutes of your analysis I have a strange feeling he is going to try to force his son to kill Butcher.
If Homelander has been trying to cut out his humanity by killing these people from his past then the one that reminds his son of his son's humanity would have to be Butcher.
That could end up being what turns them against each other.
Yes yes yes, super therapy!
Thank you for another solid video with great insight!
Thank you for doing these ❤
good video. highly insightful
I loved this episode
Imagine one day your therapist shows up dressed like Homelander
Homalander is the worst hated character ever,i'm not even following the series because of him.
It would be great to have a Playlist...
To Homelander, massacring all the staff in the lab was a king of therapy. He definitely felt a huge weight lifted off his shoulders in the elevator afterwards.
I sometimes don't agree with the hate that Barbaras character gets. She was the one that made the MOST sense in that entire episode. Homelander spoke about how different peoples memories can be of the exact situation and exacted his terror because of HIS experience, not taking into accout what everyone else saw: a monster.
The way she described his birth was what cemented the idea that he COULD NOT be raised normally. For Barbara and the rest of Vought, Homelander was a terror to them from the start. First by lasering his way out of his mother and then followed that by killing 3 doctors and a nurse. It does not matter how morally inclined anyone mightve been during their experiments with Homelander. He instilled fear from the time of his existence, and lets not forget how incredibly confidential the entire ordeal was and what Vought would do to ensure that none of what they did saw the light of day. Another scenario which Homelander could not consider.
No matter how justified Homelander felt, its virtually impossible for him now to ever reconcile with what an impossible situation his existence was, and the fact that they were even able to get him under control, is a miracle in itself.
Barbara, in my opinion, REALLY cleared the air for me regarding Homelander and why it was only inevitable that he wouldve gone down the path he was on. Vought created a Frankestine of a hero, and Homelander is hellbent on destroying his creators.
What saved Barbara is not her supposed "condescending" nature...its the fact that she told the truth of the matter, and no matter how hard he tries, its the truth tha Homelander can never omit or get rid of.
Everything that Homelander did at the end of the day, validated his humanity. Not disposed of it.
Umm Barbara was not saved buddy 😂 he locked her in that room to die...
Thank you.
Please 🙏 Cover Episode 6 Homelander
29:15 To me, as someone who can understand Homelander a little too well, she's appealing to the thing he came down there for. "Truth" some kind of truth. Didn't matter it just needed to be a certain flavor of it. I think she spills the beans for protection, and just for the fact that she's not acting like a suck up to him like Morty. Frank made the mistake of not remembering and thinking it was just a job.
Homelander finds more value in the fact she was 100% with him just then and I think that saved her. I think if she "stuck to the program" (she got cut off while doing it) that would have felt disingenuous and he's in a state of mind where he can pick that up through the fear in their voices.
The only time Barb had "fear" in her voice was when she repeated "they were scared!" which "jon" did take into consideration but I think its only because its Barb.
26:26 I think she knew, that they were all dead already anyway...
I never thought about a female version of Homelander. Now I'm sure there's fanart lol
Come on doc, she's the therapist that programmed his need for approval, shes talking to him like that because that was her programming technique. Make him feel smaller so that he'll get back in line.
He’s probably one of the few villains. I actually have sympathy for make no mistake I believe he has to die but I don’t blame him for what he is hell I’m impressed that he’s capable of the form of love he has for his son
Homelander is EASILY, one of the best villains I’ve ever seen on screen!
I’m not exaggerating when I say he deservedly should be compared to villains like Heath Ledgers The Joker, Anthony Hopkins Hannibal Lecter, Vader, Thanos, Javier Bardem’s character from Skyfall
(Obviously many more to pick from)
I think one of his biggest strenghts is his control over people. He likes to humiliate people by forcing them to degrade themselves. It’s an inherent need to control lthers likely born from his own lack of control in his past, multiplied by the fact that no matter how strong or intimidating he is, and no matter what depraved shit he’ll force people to do ‘sexual torture, dismemberment, threats, murder’ there is always one part he can never control. He wants; no, he NEEDS: love. And when people fall out of line; doing something that he views as against loving him, he lashes out, thus pushing people away, which only further spirals into more need for toxic control and love. It isn’t even love he needs, he think he does but what he truly needs, no one can give him, because what he needs is self healing.
Similar to a person looking for a relationship because societal norms have taught one to pursue this as much as financial stability or success. Not because a relationship is nice and should come naturally. First you need self love. If you go into a relationship to fill a void somewhere, more often than not you are doing it for the wrong reasons
Atleast thsts my take
26:27 nah I'd be done after that
Oh boy oh boy oh boy OH BOYS
Homelander is a very difficult character to understand. The actor is very good because he manages to move from scenes in which Homelander is very evil and has ferocious eyes to scenes in which he is so sweet that it is almost endearing. Homelander is an extremely difficult character to play.
Anthony Starr nailed that role 😊 He portraits Homelander beautifully.
What would make him happy at this point?
Milk
From what you've seen, would you consider Soldier Boy a sociopath or narcissist? Do you have enough infornation to make that diagnosis?
I did a video on him you should check it out and let me know what you think
I think successful recording Artists mirror Homelanders experience
Surrounded by yes people. R Kelly typified being revered to the point of demi god if only his managerment team had the balls to show him what he was doing and demand he get therapy maybe he would have seen the error of his ways
I'm sorry, you're telling me this isn't Cortney miller ?
26:25 She probably did not want publicity. This has been mostly the case with The Boys - they cover things up.
He has a huge issue with older woman who are mother figures that's why he didn't kill Barbara an listed to her when she told him to put the one guy out of his misery
meanwhile Therapist dressed as homelander... 💀💀💀
I love your content and the cosplays
oh this one's gonna be a doozy 😅
Cosplay goes hard
yay
I can sympathize with Homelander, he's the representation of what happens when trauma is all someone knows. Hurt people hurt.
It really hits close to home for me. He really could have been a Hero...🥲
Apart from torture, when he was killing his nannies as a child by accident, they company & scientists kept telling him "don't worry, we'll find a new one". They treated humans like toys that can be replaced therefore child HL started liking killing them.
That’s terrifying as someone whose done a lot of child care. When kids throw things n see u pick them up, they throw it again because they feel reassurance n joy n makes them laugh (and because humans in general are just little shits😅 imo) so imagining toddler “John” lasering caretaker after caretaker n just….giggling like a happy baby
I think he killed her on purpose because he knew she didn't really love him.
@@secondhandevilhe would’ve been too young to think about it that deeply at nanny age tbh
I remember a superman comic where a kid started bullying clark and beat him up.
His father ran out and chased the kid away and his dad asked Clark "are you okay son?"
"Yeah, it didnt hurt."
"I dont mean physically, are you okay?" And he kneels down and hugs him.
This is the security that Homelander had never knows and its horribly sad. Because the episode with the farm house and the blanket is what homelander couldve had
LOL! That was the movie 'Man of Steel', not the comics
@@jamesrobinson2086yeah but I think there’s a similar scene in Superman: Earth One. One of my favorites and Man of Steel takes a lot of inspiration from it
D.C Comics have always made it very clear that 1 of the main reasons Superman is the way he is, is due to the influence and Love he received by being raised by The Kents. Homelander never had the love of loving parents which explains his behaviour
@@jamesrobinson2086Way to miss the point.
he doesn't even have a name
Butcher's imaginary friend = his dead wife. Homelander's imaginary friend = lol... himself.
Black Noirs imaginary friends>>>>
No one loves Homelander more than Homelander.
I Also think that Jeffrey dean morgan is a imaginary friend as well since we don’t see him interact with anyone else
Ngl.. I'm starting to wonder if Joe is there, too. JDM's character. I'm getting a Butcher's Angel/Devil vibes.
@@Xehanort10 Also, no one hates Homelander more than Homelander.
The cartoon also goes into how he was literally groomed at 16, and taught to deflect blame.
Pretty sure the cartoon isn't canon though?
@@TuberoseKisserthat episode is! -That one only-
Edit: there are 3 considered canon.
@@TuberoseKisser last two are iirc?
@@Mike90317I think there are 3 canon episodes
Also Vought covering up his wrongdoings is a big part of why he thinks he can do whatever he wants.
"It is the way of men to make monsters...and it is the nature of monsters to destroy their makers"
-Harlan Wade, F.E.A.R.
well quoted
@@GeorgiaDow Harlan Wade may have been an unforgivable reprobate for what he did to Alma. But at the end of his life, he finally seemed to develop some sense of empathy and self-awareness. Pity he didn't develop it about thirty years earlier.
Fair warning if you never played F.E.A.R. and decide to check it out, the first game is terrifying and the last revelation at the end left me in a state of stunned silence for about 10 to 15 minutes.
Somebody remembers that game it's a classic
iconic game
I hated this character so much. The Point Man training against the soldier in the final level of 3... sick man
21:00 this makes me think of the phrase, "The Lumberjack will not remember cutting down a tree, but the tree sure does"
very good point
The axe forgets, the tree remembers
Bison, by Raul Julia, original Street Fighter movie, to Chun Li: For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday.
@@RockModeNickAnd SF6 referenced the horse but not this glorious quote. His newest version WASN'T dropped on a Tuesday.
i love how she has an outfit prepared for every charcter she does. Like how Roger from American Dad has an entire warehouse for his disguises.
Roger had entire families 😂 whole lives richly lived through his persona/disguises
@@tawumpasits Roger
They're so good too! I love the effort she's great 😂
@@jeremiahmorris1852 ✌️ Rad. Big fan of the show?
@@tawumpas yep
Oh boy she's doing this character 😅
I think you mean.
Oh no, she’s doing this character 😭
?? She's talked about him a bunch before.
The way Barbara was speaking tells me she already knew everyone there including her would die. There was no escape from that facility, so for once she told John the entire truth. No remorse, no half-truths, she was honest because she knew this was it for her.
I got the impression she was trying to goad him into losing his temper and killing them all at least quickly to try to avoid the drawn out process he ended up with.
I think that with that in mind, Barbara wanted to hurt HL in the only way she could before the end.
Oh wow this is a interesting discussion
In the back of their minds did they know that one day he would return to destroy them?
@@CuteKiller313Barbara was the only one who could tell homelander what to do. Like when she turned up and told HL to put Marty out of his misery. He complied however violently.
Homelander reminds me of that saying “every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child.” His entire character, like many in this show, is tragic and avoidable.
It’s kinda not tho, the moment he was born he killed people. Contrast that to his son Ryan, who didn’t kill anyone when he was born. I think Homelander (in the show) is a tragic character that will always be pining to have some piece of humanity when really he was evil since birth.
You’re a bad person you are genuinely not a good person
Homelander killed everyone that tried to raise him as an infant
@@ImHerbert-moon Lots of supe kids killed their parents on accident. Homelander is no different.
@victornieves1794 KILLED!!!!!!! NOT UNALIVED!!!!!!!!!!!
On the note of Vought's creation and grooming of Homelander, I'm still floored by the revelation that his attachment issues were carefully engineered by Vought after consultations with psychologists. The idea that anyone could use that kind of knowledge with the explicit intent of inflicting trauma on another human being is one of the single most disturbing things in the entire series.
Reality TV employees that tactic to create character conflict.
Shit dude, they teach those techniques in marketing school.
Even more disturbing is that consulting with psychologists and neurologists to create unhealthy effects in consumers is something done IRL. Social media is deliberately designed to create addiction.
Bruh it's already done, do you know how many people don't grow from therapy and just learn how to justify behaviors and manipulate people? I've heard people act surprised about this stuff before when to me it's common sense someone would do that
@@serafine666to add a specific example, infinite scrolling was made to encourage continuous engagement which is just a cute way to say it was made to create addiction.
The line "I've given you everything I've ever wanted!" Hit the hardest. It shows he is giving Ryan this "perfect" life that he always wanted but still can't get past what he wants and see what ryan really wants. I love homelander. Such an interesting n complex character
He's trying to project his perfect childhood so hard onto Ryan, he's completely ignoring what Ryan really wants / needs
@@5Demona5It's because he can't understand why Ryan wouldn't consider that the perfect life. Homelander can't understand why other people don't think the way he does, that his experiences aren't everyone's experiences.
I know Homelander is a terrible person, but i really do feel sorry for him.
Yup. A broken man with godlike powers. Like, wow.
Yeah, he never stood a chance of being a good person. Not excusing anything he has done, but it does explain it. And i can’t help but feel bad for the child that was locked away and basically tortured mentally and physically.
That image of him with his blanket in an uncomfortable, sterile room is very sad. They treated him like an animal or a monster from the very beginning and that’s what he became.
@@TheLinposterIsSus exactly he was s tortures imprisoned child then teenager manipulated and mentally broken to crave love to point it became warped.
It's possible to feel both pity and contempt for a person. Homelander chooses to a villain. Kimiko goes through a period of brain-washing and dehumanizing treatment but comes out of it as a hero.
That’s great! I remember some Jehovah witnesses that told me there are unforgivable sins like the devil. And I told them I felt bad for the devil and believe anyone could be forgiven if they genuinely felt remorse. Never saw them again. But I truly believe even the worst person on earth must not be “bad” all the time.
Homelander was groomed from CHILDHOOD to be a product of Vought
From *BIRTH* pretty much.
His creation was planned out before his birth. No matter his temperament or personality he was always going to be screwed up.
Stan Edgar told HL he was flawed product
"Get in the oven." Aww, Homelander takes after his mother. 😊
👀 I did not see that coming.
And Lemongrab
Bruh, too soon 😂😂😂
Please do a video about how the different parenting styles effects Ryan!
We seen how positive and caring Becca was, How Butcher does care but his own trauma makes his relationship unstable and how Homelander is so utterly emotionally immature to be a parent and immediately is insecure and blames Ryan for his own personal feelings of not getting love as a child.
Butcher may be very very flawed and damaged but Ryan knows he is truly loved by Butcher and values him
@@matcha_zuki5597that's a nice misconstrued perspective.
@@matcha_zuki5597also, there's no such thing as '(im)mature'...
@@godzillazfriction I’m trying to be spoiler free to not spoil any future plot points
His murder of all of those people is ironic, because, malice is a behavior that is incredibly human. The worst monsters that have ever taken a breath on this planet have been human beings. If he were really above humanity, he wouldn’t have been so sadistic, he would have remained detached. He may have still killed them, but I suspect he might have just used his lasers, something quick and practical. No use in getting people’s entrails in his eyes, nose, and worst of his hair. I pray his son didn’t see him walk in like that, but the boy has the same powers so he could definitely smell it
@@smileyhappyface5864That's what he's saying, he literally just typed out that if Homelander didn't have insane human traits he may have just laser'd them and not been so visceral.
@@fredwin Sorry, I misunderstood and might've missed a few words. Thanks for calling that out.
Human’s gods, jealous, lustful, hateful, violent. Even one true gods.
@@fredwin Exactly
@@jimbimedia Are you referring to those phonies from the Greek pantheon?
26:50 Barbara used the mom voice. Guys know it. Homelander picked it up as soon as she got off the elevator.