AFRO-ASIATIC: ANCIENT EGYPTIAN & EGYPTIAN ARABIC
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I’m an Egyptian Coptic Christian and hearing the Lords Prayer in informal Egyptian Arabic sounds so weird to me 💀. When we say it in Arabic it’s only in formal classical Arabic
Don't you guys usually do your liturgy in Coptic?
@@everettduncan7543We do liturgies in Coptic but they can also be done in translations such as Arabic and English among others. Usually parts will be said in coptic and parts in the translation
@@Dioscorusmyteacher321 Interesting. Is there records of Cyrenaican Grecophone Christians doing liturgy in Greek while being part of the Coptic church or were they Chalcedonian?
You Egyption Coptics gone under the influence of Roman Empire and they became Christian I don't think that ancient Egyptians were Christian!
@@everettduncan7543 not sure tbh I’d have to search it
0:03 my reaction to this
U mean woww, do you😂
Uooowwwuuu
I've been wanting this for a long time! Afro asiatic languages are beautiful.
Rather, this is the language of the Egyptians, not a group of descendants of slaves
Seems like the only similarity between the different branches of Afro-Asiatic it that they all have sounds that come from deep in the throat like ق،ع،ح
This is an oversimplification. Linguists put those languages in the same branch because of there were enough similarities between them that cannot be attributed to language contact. You can see visible similarities between proto-semitic, proto-ancient egyptian, proto-berber,... in the level of basic fundamental vocabulary, phonology, syntax and more.
в кавказских языках есть: ق، ط، ه، خ، ح، и много другие звуки которые нет в арабском
If you study linguistics, you can clearly see more connections between them than what you know now.
@@languagesolehsoleh ä
b’
v’
g’
d’
j’
z’
k’
q
kx
m’
n’
p’
t’
h
ħ
kh
c’
ch’
dj,
dz
это ещё не всё, вы не сможете их воспроизвести, так, как в ваших языках нет этих звуков
@@languagesolehsoleh в Ингушском алфавите 57 букв, в черкесском алфавите 64 букв
Great video duo thanks.
Listening to Afro Asiatic feels like time travel
Truly yeah
This is the language of our ancestors, the Egyptians, and not the language of the descendants of slaves 😊
Afrocentrists cannot see this hahaha
This is funny. We live in a time where facts are laughed at: Egyptians are not black
The two languages are beautiful, the language of my grandfather and the language of the Qur’an ❤
Even the Coptic Bible are older than Qur'an
@@beyurzelf I know
Arabic is the language of your colonizers!
@@lordronn472 They are not like that, but rather it is the language of those who liberated us from the Romans Don't talk about what you don't know
Ancient egyptian vs ancient hebrew would be funny
In berber 10 is maraw in Egyptian it's mataw.
Since amazigh community and tradition has been spread through all of north africa it’s not rlly surprising to see similarities in culture/languages
@@ruskia11 not only about that, but berbers and copts are cousins...
Strange how in some language families like indo-european, sino-tibetan and austronesian the numbers are quite similar even if they are in very different branches but in uralic and afro-asiatic the numbers are very different among the various branches
In Uralic they are similar except for Samoyedic languages.
Because the ancestor for Afro-Asiatic languages is way older than it is for other recognized language families. If you squint your eyes a bit you can figure out some of the cognates though by looking at the sound correspondences. Semitic "b" here seems like it matches Egyptian "f" like in safxaw vs sab3a . Sinuwwaj =etnen doesn't seem too far off if you compare it to Standard Arabic "ithnan" (with th being pronounced like in think)
@@oliveranderson7264 the numeral 1 also seems related
@@aitokoojii1462you forgot Hungarian 😂
@@peynirformaggio6915 Nah, you can see the similarities between hungarian and finnish. Like harom and kolme, change the h to k and r to l. In my dialect we say kolome, which sounds even more similar.
Ancient Egyptian belongs to a separate branch of the Afro-Asiatic language family, independent of the Semitic branch to which Egyptian Arabic belongs. The time the two broke up was probably 4000 BC or even earlier. The only similarities that we still vaguely recognize in both languages are the structure and a small amount of vocabulary. For comparison, the relationship between these two languages can be compared to the relationship between Chinese and Tibeto-Burman languages.
Even Greek and Albanian, which have developed into their own independent branches, still have more in common with the rest of the Indo-European language family than between the two ones above. The more you learn Greek and Albanian, the more you will realize how similar they are to English.
أَنَا التَّعْلِيقُ الْعَرَبِيُّ الَّذِي تَبْحَثُ عَنْهُ
How do you use harakat on keyboard??
long click on the dot button@@GabrielDipo
Can you make a video of the ancient Akkadian language& the Iraqi dialect
Very different but the phonology is so similar ancient Egyptian sounds like an Arabic dialect to me.
No at all they are different as English and Russian
Please make Yemenite Hebrew vs Yemenite Arabic too.
Can you make one about Pannonian Latin?
Хотел бы я выучить древнеегипетский
The words for 1 6 7 and 8 look quite similar
1:33 The "Āmīn" sounds like "I mean" and it is funny
It's the Arabic way of saying it 😊
Please Egyptians. Learn and Speak Only Egyptian In Your Country, This Is The Language Of Your Ancestors. Arabic / Saudi Is The Language Of Saudi And Saudis. If I Want To Listen And Enjoy Arabic / Saudi I Go To Saudi. Dear Egyptians, This Is Your Country, People, Culture And Language. Amun / Ra And Horus Save, Protect And Bless Your People. ❤🇪🇬❤️
Perhaps you do not understand the situation. Well, we are proud of our Arabic language, the greatest language in history, and this is our culture and heritage, and we will not speak anything other than it officially.
@@liliqua1293 اه فكرتك بترد علي
Wouldn't it make more sense to do this with coptic
Look it up!
@@joseg.solano1891 more context please
@justaduck1664 this channel has already done that comparison.
@@04kilik40 I am talkinga bout egyptian arabic not msa
open your eyes, hearts and minds. don't be lazy, go search it up, and also be open minded, this is a comparison between the language of ancient egypt and modern egypt, it's as simple as that.
Can you do Hebrew and Yiddish?
+1
FUNDAMENTAL. Como suena el Egipcio.. Es una historia.. Increíble. Aún pudo transmitir una parte del sonido al árabe egipcio.. Una lástima es que no hablan el egipcio ya. Hay que devolverlo aún para las pocas metas, como el Legado nacional y Mundial. Es posible.
What era of the Egyptian language is this from - before, during, or post-Roman rule (i.e. Coptic)?
I see the hieroglyphs written for the Our Father, suggesting a very ancient variety of the language, however:
If the last Egyptian word at 1:00 (pan) indeed means bread (have little clue about the grammar here), that sounds like a flamingly obvious Latin borrowing - that couldn't possibly be from more than 2,500 years old at the absolute most.
Es sin duda el Egipcio medio (1750 - 1250 más o menos). "Pan".. Es un cambio latín moderno, se cree.. por idea. Porque no es conocido lo original. No sé. Pero la lengua es el egipcio medio (clásico). Es exacto.
I always wondered if Egyptian Arabic has maintained some phonetic influence from Egyptian.
The numbers do kind of have a basis for being cognates, by just listening to them, other than that the relationship is too remote, there is no hope in hell to find anything besides at scholarly level.
Can anyone tell me pls from where I can learn egyptian? Especially pronunciation. I just don't think that even egyptian alphabet that matches english from google is the right one
I don't know, ask the Coptic Egyptians
@@uuuuuuuu-ko8crfunny thing's almost Egyptian are Coptic except in Sinai which only the real arab , half of Coptic people s Are arabicized and forced to be muslim and called as Egyptian Arab's even they are not arab
@@beyurzelf We are all Copts, Muslims or Christians. This is the name of our race. When Islam came, it brought with it the Arabic language, which out of our love for it, we left our original language, hostile to the Christians.
They're similar like are similar Spanish and German
Completely different !
The sounds are similar tho, but words and grammar are different.
There are some similar words, nta in Egyptian and enta means you, tiji is used in vernacular meaning let it come.
To indicate possession both languages use the suffix ik to indicate the possessive singular masculine second person.
Please make comparisons between Latin and Vulgar Latin
@Khaled-kardashev Doctors study Latin. No one speaks it in Russia.
Vulgar Latin is not really a language. It is more of a collection of various non-standardised dialects of Latin that would later develop into the modern Romance languages
Please do Indonesian vs Bangkanese Please😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
The original Egyptian spoke first before Arabic language came to Egypt.
They were suffered discrimination by christians from Europe and Muslim came to liberate Egypt
Yeah, and North America, Australia and South Africa were speaking English originally.
Hope they go back to their roots
@@Techtalk2030it would be a waste to go back
@@codenameeaglecooldown900They were all Christians who spoke this language. Islam came and simply brought Arabic with it
Quiero hablar en arabe
Egypt Air
Saudia
Are they similar or different languages?
Egyptian developed itself and became coptic and it's a mixture of Egyptian and Greek.
In the middle Ages it got mixed with Arabic and all of them made what we call now the "Egyptian Arabic"
Colonisers
No
Since our earliest ancestors left the Horn of Africa, every other place on the planet has been colonized by humans. So yes, we are all colonizers to some extent. Not to mention that the ancient civilization of Egypt at its peak dominated foreign peoples and subjected them to its power, making them colonizers just like the Arabs.
That's called Masr, not Arabic.
It's Egyptian Arabic, call it "Masri" and any sensible Egyptian person would be angry
@@Aresydatch Arabic refers to Standard Arabic. If anyone is angry with me, they need to throw their cortisol away.
Are the ppl af ancient Egyptians are still the same as today's Egyptian,if it so hoq come they consider themselves as an arab ,since Egyptian are way before arab
Just like the French and Spanish Consider themselves Romance, Arab is not Ethnicity it is language
No they are not. Today's Egyptians are Arabs/semites. The Fellahin are supposedly the closest genetically related to the Egyptians.
@@martynblackburn9632 no they weren't wiped out or anything the genetics prove that They Are egyptians + most of the northern people are fallahin who went to the cities anyways so what's your point?
@@aymnswlm9089 My point is that the native ancient Egyptians were not Semitic. They were distinct from peoples of the Levant, Syria, and Mesopotamia, including Arabia. I have read that the Fellahin are the closest to the native Egyptians. These Fellahin lived through Greek, Roman, and Moslem conquest whilst retaining their traditional way of life in the Nile Valley.
@@liliqua1293 But the Fellahin of Egypt specifically those in Upper Egypt are rooted in the culture of the indigenous Egyptians. Some of their traditons and customs are close to Egyptian's so there's a contuinity between the two cultures.
Yemeni Arabic languages compared, please
Too bad egyptian/coptic is almost lost now...
I really wonder who caused that...
I commend the person who went back 3000BC to record the ancient Egyptian speaker.
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Er .. religious words in Egyptian Arabic is bizarre ..
Ah bsara7a da '3arib awy eni asma3 ay 7aga liha 4alaqa bedin belmasryya el 3ameyya
Too bad most of middle east lost its language except for turks, persians and kurds
Egyptian sounds slightly Asian. Interesting!
ITS sound like almost languages in Northern Africa
@@beyurzelf Yes does actually.
They are not related to each other but unique languages.
They are related
Afro-Asiatic family, of which all the historic varieties of Egyptian comprise a single branch, and the most famous branch of this family is Semitic. Thus, related languages
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You actually should now try doing fictional languages (e.g Klingon)
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