Ortur Laser - Upgrading Wattage with New Laser Module!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- In this episode, we will be unboxing a new HIGHER power laser module which we will install in a later episode on the Ortur Laser Maser II (see more here: ) . We currently have a 15 watt (input) laser and we will double the size (to 30watts input or ~7.5 watts out put).
This is an Oakeroo 7.5 W Laser Module which seems to have it rooks in the NeJe laser line as the NeJe is $10 dollars more on Amazon. However if your willing to wait you can these a lot cheaper from eBay out of China (like $30 to $50 cheaper). We will list the various links below for you shop as the control may very however they all appear to be the same laser module:
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Hi, Could you post a follow up video please - I am trying to do the same thing but am not very technically minded - sorry, could you show us how you attached the wiring onto the Ortur board please? Thank you - interesting vids
Just ordered the 20w ortur laser master 2. Thanks for your videos!
Can't wait to see more videos on this. I'd love to see you hook it up to your laser, since I have the same one, and see how compatible it is. Great video as always.
Me too! Just thinking how I want to go about as I have received some viewer feed on the mod they made...
@@DIY3DTECHcom I guess what people want to know is.... Was the new laser actually compatible with the ORTUR? The laser that came with mine occasionally decides to stop working for a day or two so I'm curious if this is a recommended replacement. Thanks
just got this laser - also for my LM2 - and I figured out one thing (I see you have the same cable as me ) the color coding on the 4 pin cable is reverse - it's ok when using it on the board that comes with the Laser - but if you plan to cut the cable and splice it into the existing you have to be careful in this stage it's 12V = green, GND = yellow, PWM = black and Temp = red - for me - I just reordered the cables in the plug :)
“For the European Friends” 😂😂😂 i’m one of them! Keep going mr. Diy3dtech! You are the best!!
I like your videos. Not exactly happy that you left everyone hanging on this one. If it didn't work like you wanted, at least come back and tell people before they waste their money based on watching this video.
and now you can get a 10 watt output laser directly from Ortur for $269. It cuts 12mm wood in one pass! I just ordered mine.
Sorry for the complaint, good creators like you don't deserve it, but it's just an opinion from someone who works in the video area...
Be careful with the "Premiered" option when launching videos. Generally, people who like and expect content from people like you, receive a "new video" notification and when they click to watch, they are disappointed to know that it is just a scheduled video.
Remembering, it's just my opinion. This is the practice that I now recommend to my clients.
Maybe you can take a poll to find out what your audience prefers. 😉
ps: A whole day yesterday trying to build an Air Assistant for my fragile "Two Arms" Neje Master2. Your fault! 😆
couldnt agree more, its really annoying
Thanks for the comment and appreciate the feedback, and yes I get a few complaints however to also share with you we also get a solid 20% more views out of the gate which as you realize is very important for YT discovery. I have done A/B testing and have found the Premier yields more Pros (i,e, views) then Con's (complaints) as I have come to "believe" the Algorithm likes Premiered video so it shows it more in suggested video's. I produce for several channels and found this to be true across the board, now there is a caveat and that is it has to set to premier within that "day". As what I will do is upload the video and then the day of the scheduled release switch it to Premiere. As I do agree with you Premiering video can be issue as I upload a week or two in advance and when it first came I tried setting at up load and that did not work well at all. Again I greatly appreciate the feedback feedback and hopefully was also able to share something back with you experience wise.
@@DIY3DTECHcom Just to add my two cents. It's slightly annoying for me as well (because I get excited to see something new right then), but the actual problem is that I will put it in my never ending watch later watch list that I may never get to. Growing subscribers is awesome and all that but if you end up losing the core over time due to something some consider bothersome... then eventually it's just a plaque on the wall as there are plenty of others on similar subjects. Chasing the upticks can be a detriment...Good luck with the surgery, hope all works out well.
Waiting for follow up on this guy. Saw an stl for an air assist the replaces that front plastic with a nozzle. Looks cool
There will be something brief this month however more so in later Jan of 21..
Hi, Thanks for the Video, But I do hope you will be doing a follow up as I ( like Ecowind ) am somewhat technically challenged and would appreciate a video on wiring the 30W Diode module to an Ortur Laser Master 2. The incompatibility of pins and cables leaves me fearful of shorting something out. Thanks once again.
I have that exact laser and would love to know how you wired it up.
It has been 3 months since you posted this video. Where is the installation video & how is it working out for you?
I have the exact same laser, but I want to mount it in a 3D printer (a CR10S), but I can't find info anywhere on how to mount/plug it on the printer's board, if using the 12v pwm fan connector will do or I still need the laser's board. Kind of lost there, so I'd really appreciate any directions on that. Thanks for your content and greetings from Europe :)
I'm about to order an ortur lm2 for myself. I'm stuck between the 15w and 20w. Both will be fixed focus. Which one do you reckon is better.
DIY3DTECH, were you able to get it installed? If so was it plug and play? Did you need to modify to mount to the Ortur? 🙂
Hello! Did you ever get this installed!? I am looking at buying one of these and I am curious how it works and how to wire it up!
you made the comment that there would be a follow on video covering installation, wiring and testing but I cannot see it anywhere - did it get made?
hi i bought ortur laser master 2 s2-lf. Now I want to replace the laser module with a stronger one. Does the module have to be dedicated to this model (orturo brand) or can I buy from another manufacturer, Sculpfun s9 is more efficient when it comes to power. I want to replace only the module. maybe you have some module model to command?
Great video! I contacted neje regarding that PWM interface/tester board wiring. I have a CNC machine I want to add this onto. My only available output is my spindle on/off pin which completes the ground connection of my circuit to turn the spindle on. Neje mentioned that I use that spindle wire plus a ground wire to plug into the TTL port. Does that sound right to you? I thought the TTL would need a +12v and the spindle output wire to activate it. That’s how it’s connected to the relay of my spindle motor. Any help would be appreciated. Looking forward to seeing a follow up video on this.
So now that you have upgrade your 15w Ortur, is it better then your 20w Ortur?
Have you completed the build? Can you provide details?
very disapointed in this video, didnt even test the laser, hook it up, post a link to a related video to it?
Would love to see the difference
I would like to upgrade my laser as well. You said to new 30w (7.5 output) is not completely compatible with the 15w setup that is purchase as a kit. Are you planning on a video to help guys like me convert to 30w laser?
DID IT WORK THEN?
Hi there the cable with 2 pin where I should contact to ortur laser master 2 have cable with 3 pin can you please explain it thanks
Totally new to using a laser, how much of an increase would this be over the 20W laser that came with my LM2? And where is the video of it installed, and impressions? Thanks for the other videos on the LM2, printed those great upgrade mods on my CR10!
about 1.5 to 2 watts output, look for a video in a week or two on the Mod...
Great job as always!
I got my order laser and I remember before I purchased I asked you some questions. So I got it and I been super happy with it, I got the 20W tho so I have another question.
Is this new laser upgrade a big difference if I change it for the 20W?
Thank you in advance!!
With 20Watts your likely good for the most part as this is likely ~2 watts more so I wouldn't change. In fact I also have the new version of the Laser Master coming with a 20 watt unit...
@@DIY3DTECHcom thank you so much! Its always good to count with someone with knowledge and reliable.
Its great to have ppl like you supporting new DIY beginners.
I appreciate your hard work!
Any news about this upgrade
Whens the next video on this???
Can't wait for the follow up video on this. G7 lens installation/comparison and air assist incoming?
Likely January have to have some surgery next week (bummer)
@@DIY3DTECHcom bummer indeed. Best of luck.
My laser no longer burns. An suggestion?
I confess I was expecting to see the new laser in action, but I'm not disapointed with this video, each new video brings a new ideia. Right now I'm wondering how do you plan to control the z axis movement in the future with that ortur controller? I Imagine you would use a diferent cnc controller...
That's what I all about is ideas and share things I find which I think others might be interested in. In fact another viewer beat to making this mod to his Ortur and gave me some great tips which I will build upon and share. Also I would need to change the controller as I use the one which I just used in my CO2 laser conversation video as it works great!
I posted the following comment on his last video. Thought this might help. I was trying to find some sort of output from lightburn like a pmw signal to integrate the z axis. As for now I'm using upcycled linear bearings and rails form a old DVD burner and a cnc machined aluminum mount the stepper and limit switch. I tried to make it as compact and as light as possible. Currently the z axis uses a stand alone Arduino, shield and driver connected to a small touch screen so the code can be overwritten on the fly without a pc running. I am able to adjust (dwell),(z distance),(amount of passes),(current position or home). The whole cycle starts of with a 5v output from the board that fires the laser. "Let's say the first pass of the laser says 14 seconds in lightburn and I want to make 4 passes. I tell the Arduino upon cycle start (dwell 14 sec) the laser makes its 1st pass. At 15 seconds the z axis goes down .100" At 28 seconds the z moves down another .100" and so on and soforth. At 56 seconds the z will go back to its home position ready for the next cut. Its been a fun project 👍
I just bought the same 30W laser thinking to update my Ortur Master 2. Using the adapter board, it's easy to power it with the Ortur's connector. The problem is that this laser is designed to be close to the surface being cut/engraved. So the entire laser body is lower and hits the Ortur frame when you home. I could add something to the X carriage to trip the end stop before the laser body hits the frame. The other possibility that I haven't tried is that maybe I can replace the lens with the G8 lens so that the laser body can function at a higher Z height, eliminating the collision with the frame. I'm interested to see how you end up mounting it.
Interesting and that too is my plan to replace the lens. For wiring I was going skip the temp sensor wire as I did not see a feedback means for it (so assume technically not required) as the others are simply +12, PWM and GND. However I did up grade to a 12 volt 10 amp power brick...
@@DIY3DTECHcom Well, I tried the G8 lens and it is actually worse for getting height on the cut than the lens that comes with the 30W laser. There doesn't seem to be a way to get the body of the laser above the frame so the alternative is to add something to the X carriage so that the End stop for the Y axis is tripped before the laser smashes into the frame. This would probably work better with the Ortur 1 since it doesn't have a frame. Well, for now, I'll stick with the 20W that came with the Ortur and miss out on the 2.5 extra watts of laser output.
One potential option would be to mount the laser under the stepper motor side of the X carriage. You would lose a lot of your Y travel but at least it can home properly.
Can you put any laser module on this Ortur?
I ordered my 20w from gearbest and those SOB's sent a chinese cord with a US adaptor that doesn't even work. i can't even get it to stay on for a full burn right now I think that's all it is so i'm going to order an AC adapter.
I am seconds from purchasing many of the items you demonstrated on your channel through your Amazon links. I was going to buy the Artur Master 2 7W. Then I saw that it had a 20W laser available for about $170 dollars more. I saw your upgrade to a 30W laser video. I found that model. Its $180. So, for nearly the same amount of money I buy the smaller Artur Master 2 7W. Buy the 30W upgrade unit is my plan.
My big question, is the 30W worth the effort. Did you speed up your work flow? Was it easy to install and make it work with the master control of the Artur system? Can you still do FINE DETAILED WORK with this new laser and what lens do you use.
My work with me cutting 2mm maybe 3mm aluminum badges. Then anodizing. I'll then use Lightburn to put etch/engrave the badge details onto a gold badge. Speed? Is the 20W that comes standard with the ARTUR from Amazon strong and fast enough to do what I described or go with the 30W upgrade replacement unit? Please respond soon, looking to make that purchase today.
Note this laser is (the 30watt/input) is not plug and play replacement you will need to wire in TTL/PWM conversion board. Sounds like you using for a business so would recommend the Ortur Laser Master II with 20 watt (input ~5.5 output). Now you do understand that this laser CAN NOT cut aluminum badges. You can etch the anodizing / coating of badges which were made for this purpose.
Really wish now that I actually purchased a different laser, I've gotten some really good engraving results, but cutting is a disaster. Possibly due to the laser not focusing to a dot, Im finding a difference of 2-3 passes from one axis to the other cutting 3mm ply.
Im also experiencing dramatic power loss after two weeks. 7 passes 300mm/sec first few projects now I'm at 9 passes 200mm/sec. im using the 20w model air assisted.
Note diode laser do not focus to an optical dot as there is a fast and slow edge to them so this is normal. Also it depend if the 3mm ply is laser friendly or not as I have 3mm that cuts easy and other which I can not cut at all (glue plays a big roll in this). Also how do you know the laser is losing power?
@@DIY3DTECHcom I have the G8 lens in the post, so hopefully this will help. I was leaning more to the G2, but in this instance longer focus will be more beneficial.
I am using 3mm ply that is recommended for lasers.
It's the same batch I have been cutting. At first I was cutting at 300mm/minute @ 95% power 6 passes. Which was cutting very cleanly.
I am now cutting 200mm/m 8-9 passes 97.5% power.
I have no intentions using 100% power, I personally just think it's not the best especially cutting longer than 15 minutes.
My only conclusion is that my laser diode is degenerating faster than it should.
Cheap diode's maybe being pushed to high.
It would be good if someone could test if these are being over driven or not.
Keen to see what you have instore for the air assist for this module. Is this a current project?
Yes have already designed one, however it will require a lens swap as the existing (low efficiency) 3 element lens places the unit too close to the cutting surface so I likely will use a G7 lens...
@@DIY3DTECHcom don't you mean barrell? :D Can to tell I enjoyed your other video(s) as well?
Do you know if it is a standard size thread for a G7 lens? I have taken the coloured Perspex screen off my laser as it was making the focus knob difficult to adjust and was basically doing nothing considering the laser point is not shielded. I was thinking of replacing this part with a printed air assist assembly as it already has mounting points and can fit even with the short focus distance with the default lens.
Wow... Was just researching about this. Wanted to know if this will work. Was chatting with a seller on AliExpress.
Want to get the 40w version. Can it work with the Ortur Laser Master 2???
Note this is NOT a simple plug and play change, and will require the appropriate PWM conversion board as NeJe uses duty cycle pwm so the longer the pulse the higher the power. In later jan 21 I will be doing more on this...
Have you got it operational yet,love your videos but unsure which head to buy
This will not work plug and play with Ortur you will need to use adapter board. Since I have 20 watt now I am using the 15 watt frame to do a major rebuild with a z-axis to cut think objects...
@@DIY3DTECHcom can you keep me up to speed,i see kkmoon do 30 watt,is it possible that could be plugnplay
Is its true output greater than the 20W Ortur laser engraver model's output?
They claim this is 30 watts in and 7.5 watts out so the answer should be yes...
Can you recommend an over prescription glasses safety goggles? Thanks
Look at laserland glasses on amazon. They arent cheap but are OD6+ which is best protection you can get for a diode laser rating. They are suuuper comfy and I have a wide head and wide glasses to match, and they fit over well.
Laserland 190nm-355nm-405nm-445nm-473nm-532nm Blue Green Laser Protective Goggles CE OD6+ if need search term specifically. Since i wont be an ass that posts a link on his video
I wear these over my glasses: diy3dtech.com/Professional_Violet_Blue_Laser_Safety_Glasses however it will depend upon the size of your glasses...
Osram PLPM4L would give you 85W!!! You'd have to come up with your own cooling /mounting solution tho :)
and lens solution too.. but still 85W diode :)
Good to see your still following the channel! I googled it but do not see where anyone (at least in my short search) have converted this as cutting laser. If you have examples I would be interested...
For the prices of these things I'd think using this as the motion system for co2
Thanks for commenting and depends, as I also have two CO2 lasers and find this more handy in most case.
Gil has specified in the group before that these lasers dont use the same PWM amperage so arent compatible with directly connecting to their board.
Not sure who Gil is or which group, however this is interesting. I am surprised that current (amperage) plays a major role in this as we are only (or should I say) typicaly speaking of TTL voltage / current levels...
@@DIY3DTECHcom Gil is one of their main customer support reps. He is in the ortur owner fb group
@@MattWeber i think Gil made a mistake. He said the PWM voltage is between 3.3 and 12v on this module. But it actually is the TTL voltage. PWM should also be 0 to 3.3V. But i am not an expert in this things...
Bro I bit the bullet and got the neje 30w module from Amazon
Cool! I filmed a status video yesterday which I will release in a couple weeks. However keep mind this use duty cycle and not PWN so you need to run TTL into the control board to use with the Ortur design....
@@DIY3DTECHcom I got the pwn model . I don't know which one I needed because they have two models there. So now I just need to figure out how to do this. I'm sorry it was my understanding that it was a plug and play deal according to neje reps from Amazon so thats why I got the one I did now I need to find a guide. But cool I can't wait for the video.
So what happen. To this laser???
I completely rebuilding the 15 watt Ortur with a Z axis and GRBL (3 axis controller) However have to have surgery next week so might see it till Jan...
@@DIY3DTECHcom would you do a how to for the conversion. As if just adding on to the laser master??? Thank you. Sorry for the push i was interested in counting 4mm plywood with this. I got the 15w and it not working out to well
how bout upgrading to the 40 watt neje laser module???
Two reasons, (1) cost most I have seen are $100 more then I paid for this one meaning a staggering jump is cost per output watt, and (2) this is not really a different diode but driver as in over driven which leads to significantly shorten life cycle. So you pay more for less life...
@@DIY3DTECHcom this is not really a different diode but driver???? thats crazy! i just ordered the neje 30 watt. i hope it doesnt have a shorter life. i will be mad if it is only over driven wi th a short life.
@@DIY3DTECHcom Life Time：10000-20,000 hours
@@DIY3DTECHcom I believe it is actually 2 x 20W in the one unit focussed together. Hence the huge jump in cost, you are actually buying 2 lasers. The lifespan would technically be better than a 30W but heat would play a part.
12V 1.5A and 30W doesn't compute. That's 18W and that means that someone is lying on the specs.
Chinese accounting, I agree as at 30 watts (input) to 7.5 Watt (output) that is a lot of heat (as the difference has to go some where).
the links above screwed up my computer
I am two minutes in the video and already cringing. No that fan is not acting as the air assist, not even a bit. One of my Neje engraver came with that N40630 module and I have upgraded that one with genuine Neje metal air assist. Fans in Neje laser modules and most of the other brands modules are strictly for force cooling of the electronics and diode it self. Also adding some house fan from the side is not air assist either. When cutting deep or engraving materials that produce lot if smoke all copium air assist like solutions just makes it worse and recycle the smoke back to the on board fand abd true the laser module. That can kill the module. For normal engraving you do not need the air assist. All you need is brain. Set power and speed levels to a level where you will engrave deep and dark enough and not make smoke. If you do try going faster and if your engraver can take it cool if not lower down your power. Fir all other scenarios you will need proper Air Assist option. It is wort it to.