Why Sonic Fans Are Mad At Sonic X Shadow Generations

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  • @SonicHubYT
    @SonicHubYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

    Are you worried about Sonic X Shadow Generations?
    Do you like this new style of video doing gameplay breakdowns?

    • @ChaotixRockstarSilver
      @ChaotixRockstarSilver 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes

    • @Void12fn
      @Void12fn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yay

    • @Girbekafecon
      @Girbekafecon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, I want the REAL shadow

    • @Tronicthegamer
      @Tronicthegamer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It could have been sonic adventure but I like sonic generations ❤

    • @LandontheHedgehog
      @LandontheHedgehog 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nope

  • @nikhilalphagroup6913
    @nikhilalphagroup6913 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +307

    Man Twitter is the hell of sonic fans

    • @trentmovies7533
      @trentmovies7533 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Man I’ve never seen but I bet it’s horrible 💀

    • @XAutumnXonYT
      @XAutumnXonYT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@blairshoberu-xd7gvyou mean xactly

    • @NanagoBlake
      @NanagoBlake 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh the missery

    • @Soniciscool91
      @Soniciscool91 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      IKR the fanbase are literally the biggest nitpickers of the century like who gives a crap if shadow looks like forces shadow and has a forces jump

    • @Rehan.DBL_YT
      @Rehan.DBL_YT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@trentmovies7533it’s terrible. I stay to dragon ball fans on Twitter bc they’re actually pretty bearable on that platform . The sonic fandom however is in SHAMBLES

  • @dylansams4064
    @dylansams4064 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Bro people really need to chill on judging things too early, we barely got any gameplay footage and a SINGULAR trailer. The games nowhere close to out yet and people are really judging the quality before we have any concrete answers on any questions we have

    • @andreassanity1582
      @andreassanity1582 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This IS the sonic community AND twitter your talking about

  • @orangeyoshi2524
    @orangeyoshi2524 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    The sonic fandom will find anything to complain about like using a bunch of hack to see one of sonics singular pixels being a slightly darker shade of blue than the rest of him

    • @mehiloll
      @mehiloll 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Yeah, this fandom is so crazy that they would get mad and even call a game horrible if Sonic’s spines were a pixel shorter in it!
      *Oh wait, they already did that.*

    • @The_Ultimate_Agent
      @The_Ultimate_Agent 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Damn right.

    • @Black_Savage_God
      @Black_Savage_God 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      These guys need to learn how to find happiness

    • @isolated_illust
      @isolated_illust 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@mehiloll Yeah, I won't be surprised if the next big controversial debate of the Sonic fanbase is another dumb topic like how big Sonic's nose should be

    • @mehiloll
      @mehiloll 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@isolated_illust yeah. In fact I bet it will happen soon.

  • @knowingjordankid
    @knowingjordankid 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Man people are already complaining about Sonic X Shadow Generations even though the trailer released a few days ago. Some of these problems that people have and I do too. The one thing about Sonic X Shadow Generations it doesn’t look anything like Sonic Forces but a few things look like Frontiers. I people are saying that because how Sonic X Shadow Generations looks like a boost formula game to people and the shadow design looks like Forces Shadow. I hope we figurer out if Sonic X Shadow Generations is like Frontiers gameplay or Forces gameplay because that will be controversial for a while and SEGA will definitely show more stuff for the game, and it will get more controversial. Overall I don’t think the controversy isn’t that bad but I have some flaws too.

    • @RockLobster383
      @RockLobster383 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I just wish they made the shadow stages like the og sonic generation stages it’s like the new boosting and new movement just isn’t that good. It’s not that it’s bad but it’s just really not as good as the sonic generation and sonic unleashed the movement feels so slow. Listen no hate to Sonic frontiers and sonic forces but the boosting and movement feels so slow. That’s my opinion and I really just don’t like how they’re re using it in the 3d sonic games. I think that’s why they’re kinda avoiding 3d sonic like we’ve gotten a lot of 2d sonic games recently.

    • @djjddjduududjd7480
      @djjddjduududjd7480 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Be happy if I knew shadow game come out

    • @aydentolive71
      @aydentolive71 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@RockLobster383 We've literally only gotten one 2d game what're you yapping about

    • @AtomicoMacaco
      @AtomicoMacaco 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't have any issue with the Shadow portion of the game, it's obvious it was made with the modern mindset of how a Sonic game is made and that's fine. I just dislike the idea of Sonic Generations being remastered and that I'd probably need to buy it just to play the Shadow part. It'll come out full price even though at least half of the game already released more than a decade ago, and we don't even know how worth the Shadow part of the game will be. Like, it could easily just be Episode Shadow all over again.

    • @Hynotama
      @Hynotama 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      People are complaining that they used Shadow’s model from forces? There is literally no differences between Generations Shadow model and Forces Shadow model, aside from the textures that cover it. The game looks good. At this point they’d complain that the grass in Green Hill is the wrong shade of green. Hey, Spyro fans complained about the grass being the wrong shade of green in Reignited Trilogy, so…
      Anyway, Sonic fans should learn to put their phones down and go outside into the scary outdoors, where you find terrifying stuff like the sun or real grass and… GASP! Real people! (Insert horror movie SFX)

  • @AndrewR-y5u
    @AndrewR-y5u 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Shadow's story needs to have him fight the final boss as super if they can ever include that like in his original own game

  • @EflowArc
    @EflowArc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Sonic frontiers used the forces idle as a Placeholder but that got changed later, so i think these are placeholders

    • @SonicHubYT
      @SonicHubYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It still made it into the game but they just added extra stuff to it

  • @ddc581
    @ddc581 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm so glad black doom is back I'm genuinely so hyped for the game, I dont really care about its flaws I'm just glad doom is back (hopefully in a big role)

  • @Takinshiro1
    @Takinshiro1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is the same situation when sonic unleashed came out. A lot of people complain about the werehog and unleashed gameplay and now everyone loves it. Sometimes you can please everyone

    • @reubensalter8125
      @reubensalter8125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What? No one loves the Werehog still

    • @jettsett9354
      @jettsett9354 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope, even as someone who isn't bothered by it I don't see anyone liking the werehog gameplay. Also Forces was arguably the biggest dissapointment in the franchise and anything that comes remotely close to looking like it will raise suspicion and for good reason. These aren't the same situations at all.

  • @s.kanessuperbiatv6464
    @s.kanessuperbiatv6464 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think the weirder part of the Generations remaster trailer is that the Sonic parts look like they're running on 2010 Generations tech while Shadow looks like its running on Frontiers tech. It feels like they remastered Generations and stapled Frontiers DLC on it. I'm not opposed to Shadow having different physics than Sonic (in fact, I think it's a great way to differentiate their gameplay) but I hope the quality is evenly distributed

    • @LemonicParade
      @LemonicParade 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sonic Team's gotta put something together to hype up the third Sonic movie.

  • @aperkins0627
    @aperkins0627 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My counter argument to every "Forces level design" accusation is that every extended linear part of the level design shows Doom's eye either talking to Shadow or approaching from the distance as if he's about to talk to Shadow. If you look at the wall boosting part of the trailer where it just looks like a straight like you can see Dooms eye right about to come up and talk to Shadow. Seams in the level design for more detailed character animations during dialogue is step up from the voice communicators we got in Forces so it's a W in my book

  • @juiceala
    @juiceala 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This man is having a death wish with his honest hot takes on Sonic Generations physics in comparison to Sonic Frontiers, and I agree with him.
    This is something I’ve been saying since Sonic Forces actually and people get really mad, the only reason some people “ prefer” Generations physics is because they’ve played the game so much they’ve gotten used to them, not because Sonic necessarily controls actually better than in Sonic Frontiers.

  • @remyrotten
    @remyrotten 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a sonic fan for almost 25 years, i can say I love frontiers and generations. Even if i end up getting it on a deal if the sonic team tries like they have been over the last few years i know ill enjoy it

    • @SonicHubYT
      @SonicHubYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts ima enjoy the game regardless lol

  • @chandelight59
    @chandelight59 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    But we can all agree, Unleashed has the best mix of 2D and 3D

    • @rappanrecoop
      @rappanrecoop 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t think unleashed has any 2D sections

    • @chandelight59
      @chandelight59 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rappanrecoop it does, I've played it

    • @iceman92211
      @iceman92211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope it’s still inconsistent because it’s still a 3D game with a lot of 2D sections that shouldn’t be there

    • @chandelight59
      @chandelight59 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@iceman92211 It's really a way to save money, and unleashed has the best unnecessary 2d sections

    • @iceman92211
      @iceman92211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chandelight59saving money from what ?
      They already have no other playable characters in that game

  • @ArgusWonTr1ck
    @ArgusWonTr1ck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly why can't they just make another Sonic Adventure game? Pretty sure all sonic fans would be ecstatic with that.

    • @SonicHubYT
      @SonicHubYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would be lol

    • @ArgusWonTr1ck
      @ArgusWonTr1ck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @SonicHubYT I know right? They don't even need to include all the modern Boost mechanics and whatever else, I just want expansive, well-designed levels and a full cast of playable characters. Heck, imagine if they combined SA 1's open world with SA 2's Cast and a soundtrack reminiscent of both games.
      They could make a super in-depth Chao Garden, and that alone would have me playing the game for *months*, a modern-looking Sonic Adventure would honestly revitalize the series probably even more than Frontiers did.

    • @LemonicParade
      @LemonicParade 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The main problems i see as to why they cant make a Sonic Adventure level quality of game:
      A)Sonic Team keeps resetting the game after the last one. They keep adding uninspired ideas that had nothing to do with the last game. They should be building on the positives of the last one while fine tuning the game. Then they blame "troubled development and crunch time" to garner sympathy.
      B)Theyre bleeding talents. And they dont work well with other game devs. Sonic Mania was great, but it seemed as if Sonic Team's ego took a huge hit. In the development of Origins, it sounded like they were sabotaging the talented group they contracted (just like when they were under Naka), same with Big Red Button whose main members included...
      The guys who worked on the cancelled Sonic X-Treme.

  • @SpeedoIsVeryEpic
    @SpeedoIsVeryEpic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Just give me a super shadow and I’ll be satisfied

    • @FowaJCT
      @FowaJCT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Super Shadow Overratered. Give me Shadow taking off the inhibiter rings.

    • @igottachangedmyname
      @igottachangedmyname 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@FowaJCTraw

    • @Tara191
      @Tara191 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why not both?​@@FowaJCT

    • @SelulekoMakhanya
      @SelulekoMakhanya 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Imagine Super Shadow taking off his inhibitor rings😮

    • @kira516
      @kira516 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Based​@@FowaJCT

  • @lazierdabbthe1st
    @lazierdabbthe1st 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Does Sonic community needs to screw off? They're not realizing the main point of creating these games. The whole point of creating these games is so that it's fun and half the time people are more thinking about all the problems about it. Then what can be fun about it which inevitably makes it even worse. The game is never actually. That bad forces is actually not a bad game at all, like quite like it and it's because I see the good in the games rather than everything that's wrong with it. The problem is that people are often thinking about the problems with certain things rather than looking at the good things at it. And that's also kind of what happened with Sonic 06

  • @jaimeerobertswarz
    @jaimeerobertswarz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since its generations I wouldn’t expect Shadows levels to exceed the games release date of 2011 unless they plan on adding more levels in the main game.
    Otherwise I would assume Shadows levels will come from SA2, Shadow The Hedgehog, Heroes, & Sonic 06.

  • @youngGodKing2
    @youngGodKing2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    19 years

    • @Shadow-hw3kn
      @Shadow-hw3kn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It will be 19 years after the last Shadow game not long after this game’s release. We still don’t know when this game is coming out.

  • @FireBladesGameing
    @FireBladesGameing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "you cant judge a game off 5 secconds of footage"
    Most gamers: Just watch us
    Me: Yeah i think ill wait untill i see more game footage untill i make a judgement.

  • @jengoooooo
    @jengoooooo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    god i just want the adventure games remastered or adventure 3. seeing the ark n biolizard in HD is beautiful it would be a homerun to remake/remaster them 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @mathew6639
      @mathew6639 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We will die waiting, but maybe we can at least die hopeful. 😔

  • @AaronAkioTheBraixen
    @AaronAkioTheBraixen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh just give them a chance im honestly excited to see how shadow plays

  • @ihatecheese15615
    @ihatecheese15615 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    respectfully i just want this game we havent gotten shadow content in a while and this is the closest we will get to a remake of shadow the hedgehog and im hoping for sonic 06 bosses in this game

  • @steel_neel
    @steel_neel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It hurts my soul to have to see these old designs, they NEED to make new models it crazy how old these models are bruh

  • @AdamSelvig
    @AdamSelvig 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t know what to say till the game comes out and more trailers

  • @LittleBabyBlue777
    @LittleBabyBlue777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Two words; Sonic Superstars. That game utterly dropped the ball and it had a lot of hype behind it. Sonic Team screwed up royally again and it's beginning to get the fandom into the tired ole' Sonic Cycle again.
    The saddest part about all of this isn't even that Sonic Team doesn't care. They want to because Frontiers proved that they do but the biggest issue is always going to be SEGA never giving them enough time, money or manpower to generate at least DECENT content.
    See Nintendo's recent treatment of Game Freak and the Pokemon franchise for an eerily similar situation. These game companies are getting greedy and it's bleeding into their games.

  • @Hellspawner06
    @Hellspawner06 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Game not even out, barely announced, and people already bitching..

  • @Bargate
    @Bargate 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think both sides have a point and shouldn't be aggressive with each other. We have so many bad Sonic games personally I think it is always good to not be blindly optimistic that the game will be good. I'm just more annoyed at the fact they are remastering Sonic Generations the game is easily accessible on steam and still works fine on Windows 11 and modern hardware. Like seriously where is Sonic Unleashed why do I have to emulate your game i'd pay for it.

    • @SonicHubYT
      @SonicHubYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the skeptic people actually have valid points lol. Although at the same time I am optimistic personally

  • @snakey888
    @snakey888 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the Shadow content is standalone, then I really hope you can buy them separately, ti just get the Sonic Generations part.

  • @bakuhex786
    @bakuhex786 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just hope the shadow campaign is a decent size just not like 4 missions or something...it seems too early for sonic gen re-release so it better not just be like sad dlc size ontop of generations.

    • @SonicHubYT
      @SonicHubYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I’m not tryna pay $60 for a DLC basically since I already own gens and it runs perfectly fine

  • @mouaznawras
    @mouaznawras 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sonic fans on twitter finding one element in the trailer to criticize a unreleased game down to its last details.

  • @ghostpinguin
    @ghostpinguin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is why I do not consider myself a Sonic fan, but a Sonic enthusiast.
    I can't be part of a fanbase that are super butthurt or start screeching the moment they see a new Sonic trailer.
    I think Sega should reboot this franchise into something that is T rated have some seriousness with a little balance of comedy. Something like the Archie comics maybe.

    • @andrewtuell1991
      @andrewtuell1991 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing about the Archie comics is worth emulating. It died for a reason.

  • @ThatHaloGuy020
    @ThatHaloGuy020 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i really hope they give shadow his own unique gameplay style preferably a more "combat" style. you have modern sonic(boost) classic sonic(2d) and shadow with more of a combat and freedom of movement gameplay kinda like the adventure style gameplay.

  • @ElijahBrumbaugh
    @ElijahBrumbaugh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My main worry in the game is how it'll be like the original. Don't get me wrong, generations is definitely amazing, but the problem with it was that 3/4ths of the game was 2d platform with little 3d. I just don't want too much 2d and a bit more 3d

  • @TheAnimatedGamer
    @TheAnimatedGamer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They are right as much as people are defensive about the criticism. The developers for generations aren't there anymore so it likely won't be like that level design wise. I just wish I could buy the shadow stuff separately

  • @ProNoobChad
    @ProNoobChad 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn They Just Created Sonic Superstars They Cant Go A Day Without Creating A Game With Modern Sonic

  • @TH-rx1kt
    @TH-rx1kt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hedgehog Engine 2 is a graphics engine, not a physics engine.

  • @backupschmliff1156
    @backupschmliff1156 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would count Sonic 06 as a Shadow game.

  • @CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe
    @CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They should make it feel like generations or like open zone frontiers. That would be peak.

  • @mariobroultimate1808
    @mariobroultimate1808 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +251

    I'm not worried in the slightest. This remaster is being worked by Sonic Team, and we're still getting the solid game that is Sonic Generations at the end of the day. Nintendo exclusive gamers like myself will finally be able to play the console version. I'm not expecting Shadow's campaign to have as good level design as the main campaign, but I hope its story is at least handled well.

    • @IgnotusLotus
      @IgnotusLotus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I have the same sentiments

    • @fiblz5443
      @fiblz5443 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      “remaster” 💀💀💀💀💀

    • @snakey888
      @snakey888 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Sonic team made Forces and Frontiers, so there is plenty to be worried about.

    • @Haganeren
      @Haganeren 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In the end of the day, it's still a remaster as if doing another game like Sonic Generations si too high of a demands.
      That's really sad.

    • @scuddbucket3300
      @scuddbucket3300 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@snakey888dont disrespect frontiers like that.

  • @rubydragoon720
    @rubydragoon720 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

    I've never cared what Twitter has to say about anything that isn't a news source, those clowns stay mad like no offense but bruh, ya'll really act like you're Einstein after seeing a one minute of unfinalized gameplay and you're just like: "Yep nothings changed"
    None of this has changed my mind, I'm still hyped for it and I'll get it sometime after it comes out.

    • @immortaldragon1123
      @immortaldragon1123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS

    • @RINAisNerd
      @RINAisNerd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Agreed. Everyone need to calm down. We just had a first look at the game, at least let's wait until something more substantial before freak out.

    • @Leafpotato1
      @Leafpotato1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think the jump ball is being changed for shadow cause they used the forces homing attack in frontiers IGN and changed it but I might be wrong

    • @TF2Fan101
      @TF2Fan101 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@RINAisNerdI remember when the first gameplay for Frontiers was released, and everyone automatically assumed it was going to be bad.
      What is it they say about not learning from history?

    • @ominicronikal0902
      @ominicronikal0902 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@TF2Fan101History repeats itself

  • @joeboosta6309
    @joeboosta6309 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I think it's kind-of a good idea about the way Shadow attacks in mid-air in this new game, because it looks more like he's actually using his iconic Chaos Control ability to get to the enemies so they'll have been attacked by him instead of him using the spin-ball homing attack move to do that. I'm looking forward to playing this game, and I've never had any of the videogame consoles that the original Generations game was made to be playable on, so I've never gotten to play that version of it.

    • @saltygibus5746
      @saltygibus5746 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Actually it's an even more direct reference to his Chaos Snap technique in Sonic 06

  • @dankmemes4744
    @dankmemes4744 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    FUCK THE FANS. THEY REMASTERED SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG
    *LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*

  • @whats.inaname
    @whats.inaname 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    I love watching sonic fans complain about linear level design when all their favorite games have very linear level design lol
    Saying this as a sonic fan who loves unleashed and gens, I just think it’s important to remember that boost gameplay really only supports so much creative level design

    • @snakey888
      @snakey888 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Generations has some of the least linear level design of 3d Sonic games. Boost has nothing to do with it.

    • @Haganeren
      @Haganeren 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well, i saw what they did with open world and i can't say i'm a fan. In the end Sonic was always a "linear game with branching path"... But i feel like the main point everyone should be talking about is why i should replay a game i already play and i already have only to be able to get that new content ? It was the same problem with Bowser's Fury ! I was really mad !

    • @whats.inaname
      @whats.inaname 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@snakey888 true, I love the stages from generations the most, but the least linear they get is 1 of 3 paths that take you to the same exact checkpoint

    • @whats.inaname
      @whats.inaname 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Haganeren hard agree on that last part, I think out of all the games that could’ve gotten the “remake + bonus game” treatment, Generations needed it the least

    • @snakey888
      @snakey888 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@whats.inaname
      Yeah, that is the least ones. But the most ones have way more than that, that intertwine and stuff.

  • @Zowiezo101
    @Zowiezo101 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    I'm a simple person. Anything with Sonic in it is great. Anything with Shadow in it is also great. This game has both in it, it's double great! I'm just gonna enjoy it no matter what other people say, I'll form my own opinion on it ;)

    • @Dan-qb9xk
      @Dan-qb9xk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      They instantly had me when they gave shadow his chaos snap for a homing attack lmao

    • @Wheee7245
      @Wheee7245 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      same feelings here original poster

    • @LobotomyTC
      @LobotomyTC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      So what you're saying is, you have no quality standards, and you'll gobble slop as long as it's got a logo you like on it.

    • @valeriechern
      @valeriechern 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm with you pal. Aside the fact that this is actually looking good. Perfection doesn't exist anyway, so instead of being always sour I like to concentrate on positive moments and celebrate them. My hobbies are supposed to bring me joy after all, not the opposite

    • @ShadowsCrawlDown
      @ShadowsCrawlDown 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@LobotomyTCI have no shame in saying yes! A ‘bad’ game can be fun one
      It’s easy to be cynical about Sonic fans having to ‘fix everything’ using mods, but I think that’s a testament to just how cool Sonic is as a character

  • @sea461
    @sea461 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I think this game will be amazing, hopefully it lives up to all of our expectations, and the price is worth it. Also nice video!

  • @TrnskaDevelopmentTeam
    @TrnskaDevelopmentTeam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    The only thing that makes me mad about it is price. 60 bucks for remaster with a new playable character is way too much. It should be at least 40 dollars, since original Generations on Steam is 20 dollars. This way I will need to wait for sale to buy it.

    • @SonicHubYT
      @SonicHubYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Yea I totally agree. My biggest concern is whether or not there will be enough content to justify a $60 price tag. Sonic Superstars was definitely not a $60 game

    • @Cloud-dt6xb
      @Cloud-dt6xb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Then preorder it and go at your pace paying for it, that's how I do new games these days and it's so much less stressful.

    • @dylanbanning
      @dylanbanning 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SonicHubYT I loved playing generations back on the 360 However, my biggest concern with the original is that they’ll screw up the main campaign and the shadow story will be mediocre like forces.

    • @silentfusion8449
      @silentfusion8449 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Steam describes the shadow gameplay as a whole new campaign

    • @windy3935
      @windy3935 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Price wasn't confirmed yet? Why you complaining.

  • @Jaygermeister93
    @Jaygermeister93 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    When people complain about that area of Final Rush looking like Forces level design I have to point out, have you actually played Final Rush? It literally has sections of rails leading into flat platforms just like that.

    • @snakey888
      @snakey888 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True, sa2 and Forces had pretty similar level designs.

    • @ralphmontes6423
      @ralphmontes6423 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      as well as final chase and rail canyon to an extent

  • @spark9189
    @spark9189 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    if it is using frontiers physics, i'm hoping it will be more like the open zone physics (and hopefuly the customizable handling) than the cyberspace physics

  • @CSTH1
    @CSTH1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'm optimistic about this remaster. The one thing I'm hearing about that I don't like at all is the price tag. It said somewhere that this game would be priced at $70. I don't know about you, but I don't want to pay full price for a remaster considering the last two remasters we got (Colors Ultimate and Origins) were $40. Despite this, though, I think this game looks really good, and I hope it can do HUGE numbers for SEGA and Sonic Team.

    • @SonicHubYT
      @SonicHubYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Price and content is something I’m also concerned about, I hope that gens can get additional content and the shadow story is enough content also

  • @3ssamssf2
    @3ssamssf2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Their mad cause they are haters fr 🗣️🔥💦 💯 👍

  • @SelulekoMakhanya
    @SelulekoMakhanya 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    "SONIC X SHADOW GENERATION and Knuckles?" Got me😂😂😂😂

    • @Neyxumusic
      @Neyxumusic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And what does that do to you 😢

  • @Squido77
    @Squido77 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    4:12 ah yes, the spongebob toilet EMOJI.

    • @0n1c420
      @0n1c420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this is what happens when you upload daily. you have no time to fix the script, so you instead just leave it in lol.

  • @Aktedya1-jt7vw
    @Aktedya1-jt7vw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Something I've noticed is that the backgrounds of the Shadow stages, while pretty, do seem more simplistic then Gens. The Ark stage is in space so I won't fault them there, but the City area's background feels pretty copy-pasted. I hope that ain't the case for all Shadow's stages.
    I'm not expecting this to have the same flair as Gens with it's Camera, reimagined level ideas, level design and basic animations, but those cinematic shots like Shadow kicking the big missile and punching the Biolizard give me hope that they'll at least be some of it here.
    At the end of the day, I'm excited, though out of love for the original Generations, I hope this can really feel like an expansion of it. The "Dark" story of it, if you will.

    • @SonicHubYT
      @SonicHubYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Agreed, I just hope the $60 price tag can be justified with the amount of content in it.

    • @reubensalter8125
      @reubensalter8125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those are just placeholders, plus that was a cinematic they don't give the full scope

  • @SonicXShadowSpeedyAndFriendsVR
    @SonicXShadowSpeedyAndFriendsVR 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    People need to chill! The game just got a trailer some days ago and they are already hating on the game!

    • @LemonicParade
      @LemonicParade 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You cant really blame them after the rushed turdfests Sonic Team produced all these years. Its practically part of their branding now.
      Of course, Hardlight making an above average Sonic game versus what Sonic Team can churn out didnt help.

  • @patg500
    @patg500 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    But sonic generations is not forces when the fucking forces idle wasn't in the original generations game so everyone cut the fuck out the complaint is been annoying about the forces idle give it a break

  • @nokingo10098
    @nokingo10098 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes i get that Shadow's campaign isn't the same as Generations. Different graphics,different combat and more but does it mean it isnt fun? Hell no, the bossfights,the stages all look amazing in my oppinion,this game desserves reapect. Plus if i see a score bellow 77 on metacritic then those critics have no mind to work with

  • @DSK_Terrence_Official
    @DSK_Terrence_Official 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It was revealed 3 Days ago. Unleashed should be remastered. And that’s why I don’t like Twitter

  • @happystickboi6335
    @happystickboi6335 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sonic fansbase on TH-cam:🗿
    Sonic fanbase on Twitter: 🤡

    • @SonicHubYT
      @SonicHubYT  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sonic fan base on TH-cam is goated fr

  • @MrMichaelisaacs1
    @MrMichaelisaacs1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If people are complaining that it’s to much like frontiers let those idiots complain. Sonic games going forward should be like frontiers.

  • @BLUESTREAK91
    @BLUESTREAK91 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Screw the Sonic twitter community! End of story! Never fails with any new Sonic game that is announced

  • @Shadow_G.O.A.T
    @Shadow_G.O.A.T 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Cyberspace with spin dash and power boost is better than generation. Overall mechanics and platforming skill is far more satisfying in frontiers than generation. Generations great as a boost game but frontiers Cyberspace feels as if it take sonics mechanics to the next level were boost is just one aspect of his character and not his entire identity which just leaves so much more potential on the table overall vs generations.

    • @JW.165
      @JW.165 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I guess if you like jank and no polish or challenge in your sonic games then ok

    • @abrahampena1263
      @abrahampena1263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JW.165Agreed
      I like both games but Generations is overall better lmao

  • @PGrayOfficial
    @PGrayOfficial 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can we PLEASE abandon the blocky design of structures? Seriously the city section just looks like a bunch of stretched-out cubes with window textures on them

  • @blankedout6966
    @blankedout6966 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I mostly agree with your points on why the frontiers physics is actually pretty cool and bearable but the fact is that not everyone knows how to do movement tricks such as the homing dash to traverse in the game unlike in generations where max speed is achieved almost instantaneously and platforming is easier. Also, the frontiers homing attack completely kills the pace of the game so get that garbage out . Maybe a mix of both the hedgehog engines would be nice instead :)

  • @BillyBobJoe-p4h
    @BillyBobJoe-p4h 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a massive fan of sonic generations this is what I have to say to the people already getting mad about the remaster: *_Fuck you._*

  • @sikosonix901
    @sikosonix901 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I feel like if Shadow's story is being built right next to Gens, I don't see why they can't take inspiration from their past levels. I'm trying to think in the minds of the developers. We attempted to make more use of Sonic's mobility in The Final Horizon, and now we have that and the Gens levels sitting right there. The most logical scenario is that the just put them together, so they know what to do.

    • @adedakevwe1957
      @adedakevwe1957 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro you Nigerian

    • @adedakevwe1957
      @adedakevwe1957 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro you Nigerian

    • @adedakevwe1957
      @adedakevwe1957 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro you Nigerian

    • @adedakevwe1957
      @adedakevwe1957 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro you Nigerian

    • @sikosonix901
      @sikosonix901 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adedakevwe1957 was the name a giveaway? My dad was Ibo, so he gave me that name.

  • @KirbyPhelpsPK
    @KirbyPhelpsPK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I mean, I liked the Cyberspace levels so... 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @DesmondCalderon-g7s
    @DesmondCalderon-g7s 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Man I'm still waiting for a Sonic Rush remaster 😭

  • @kadenhorrocks7182
    @kadenhorrocks7182 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Look, these are valid criticisms. We shouldn't fault people for being skeptical, because they truly do have a right to BE skeptical. We point these things out because we care, and want the game to be in the best quality it can be. Give these people a break

    • @SonicHubYT
      @SonicHubYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They def aren’t wrong about what they pointed out so that’s why I wanted to present the info and see what peoples takes were

    • @kadenhorrocks7182
      @kadenhorrocks7182 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SonicHubYT
      And I appreciate that you did! This comment was more towards the people who are going along with the "Twitter Sonic Community back at it again", when in reality this is where I feel it's very valid

    • @Cloud-dt6xb
      @Cloud-dt6xb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      No their not their based off of what amounts to 30 seconds of gameplay and assumptions based off what they THINK they see. But the fact is we don't have near enough gameplay yet to get a good grasp of it and no that one twitter dumbass saying he can tell isn't enough. It's all too easy to manipulate data to fit your narrative and Twitter is infamous for it.

    • @silenttera666
      @silenttera666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Strange, because the guy who showed the comparisons, he ignored the homing attack Shadow used at the Space Colony Ark, in which was at a much faster rate.

    • @jettsett9354
      @jettsett9354 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cloud-dt6xb "manipulate data" Bro, what Beatz showed takes no amount of brain activity to understand and it makes sense.

  • @LeeOsburn
    @LeeOsburn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Breaking news: Sonic 'fans' are always mad, nitpicky and complain about everything. You get used to it. Lol

  • @Void12fn
    @Void12fn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1 minute gang
    👇

  • @jeffreywilliams8499
    @jeffreywilliams8499 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    19 years since since Shadow's video game came out and Black Doom has returned

  • @Vorticalize
    @Vorticalize 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    This comment won’t get 10 likes

    • @Joaquin-o8u
      @Joaquin-o8u 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JuliaMercer-pq8pt agreed

    • @melan8ed197
      @melan8ed197 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lazy like-bait comment

    • @Blue_skittle6
      @Blue_skittle6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      15 likes

    • @Orangeairpod
      @Orangeairpod 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      21

    • @THUNDERBOLTEDITS999
      @THUNDERBOLTEDITS999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It got 20

  • @JDWLegoLegendsYT
    @JDWLegoLegendsYT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I Don't care what these people say, I'm still it buying anyway. I don't even have Sonic Generations.

  • @Seasy_
    @Seasy_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man, I hate people who just complain, like bro. You all complained about Dream Team, it wasn’t that bad, some complained about Frontiers, it was one of the greatest games ever. Just stfu and be patient.

  • @4rttyzz575
    @4rttyzz575 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I criticize what I don't like but I'm not THAT critical. Criticizing things is good, specially seeing how the Frontiers team was willing to listen to the fans, but assuming a game will be bad based on a 5 second video is kinda dumb imo, no offense. People said the same about Frontiers, and that is one of my top 5 3d games.
    Realistically, Shadow Generations physics will be a tweaked version of Frontiers, worst case scenario they'll just port Frontiers physics and call it a day. Personally, Frontiers physics aren't the best but it isn't awful either, so as long the level design is good, it's not the end of the world for me, but yeah, they totally should tweak Frontiers physics.

  • @spiritmacardi9300
    @spiritmacardi9300 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My issue is that Sonic Generations was a game all about celebrating the classic and modern parts of the franchise... And Shadow has no classic incarnation. He's modern only.
    They could have added an extra story with classic and modern Tails, who were already in the game, but no they instead went with Blandy McEdgelord.

  • @irkendragon
    @irkendragon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm not surprised at all that they would be reusing assets, given how quick this was announced and is coming out it makes sense. If it plays like Frontiers and they had time to make some improvements and add some variation to differentiate Shadow's gameplay from Sonic's I'll enjoy it. I liked Cyberspace fine once I got used to it, had a lot of fun with some of the levels.
    I'm assuming the addition of Shadow gameplay segments will be relatively short, I'm not expecting a full length campaign, but we'll see. Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised. I kinda can't be mad about anything because I'm pleased to be getting anything at all Shadow related so soon after Frontiers.

  • @AuwzFN
    @AuwzFN 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I loved generations so damn much when i was younger and im so excited for this and not worried at all

  • @dougman72
    @dougman72 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As long as shadow isn't a complete edge lord where he only spouts nonsense like " i hate you sonic.... because i hate you😡" then i will be fine.

  • @FrenzyStudiosYT
    @FrenzyStudiosYT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why are people so picky I just wanna enjoy new sonic games without god damn
    Morons complaining on twitter!

  • @chillihog1543
    @chillihog1543 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For Shadow, the concern I do have is the lead developer who made Forces lvl design n said "Boost like a maniac" is now behind the Shadow dlc. I hope he learns his mistake from Forces n take notes from U3 cyberspace n Dream Team lvl design or otherwise we might be facing another lackluster boost like a maniac game. I don't mind the game looking like it retakes stuff from Frontiers, especially if they reused n improve good stuff from Frontiers like spindash, combat, n Super Sonic boss fight but Shadow. As for Gens remaster, my concern for that side is why are they calling that a remaster even tho it looked the same from OG Gens? Are they hiding the graphic changes for Gens or they are just calling it a remaster for more sells? I don't mind Gens looking the same cuz the game only needed a port while other mid 2000s Sonic games deserves a remake/remaster. Overall what I really hope they don't do is price this as $60. Unless they show what they improve for Gens (Graphically/content) n state the length of Shadow's dlc will be as long as Frontiers, this game at least should be about $30-40 if they want more causals onboard especially after the Sonic Movie 3 hypetrain

  • @Solrac_6412
    @Solrac_6412 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only thing i feel skeptical about is the name cuz of THOSE sonic fans who are weird asf

  • @TheDragonfang134
    @TheDragonfang134 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My only concern for Sonic x Shadow Generation is how many stages they decide to give Shadow. Cause so far from what is shown, what looks like two stages may be a single stage with a Phantom Ruby like transition effect in it. Though there is one thing I hope is added to this version of Generations, and that would be IF they add the 3DS content or not.

  • @KOTSOSMC2002
    @KOTSOSMC2002 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Sonic fanbase has an extremely narrow and to be perfectly honest r$t$rded mindset (amongst many others but let's focus on this one for today), that being
    Linear = Bad
    Sorry to break it to you Sonic fans, linearity doesn't equal bad design. A game can be of a linear structure and still feature intriguing world building and detailed environmental storytelling by having in-depth backgrounds and close surroundings, engaging level design that focuses on being FUN and not just hard (another thing Sonic fans can't differentiate, difficulty from quality), entertaining gameplay and being a cool set piece.
    Case and point: Network Terminal (Modern Sonic Chemical Plant), Egg Gate (Modern Sonic Death Egg), Sunset Heights (Modern Sonic) and Metropolitan Highway (Modern Sonic) and all the Avatar stages from Sonic Forces. Yes, all of those stages showcase exactly what I mentioned above and are incredibly fun to play through. Most of Forces is actually fun to play through but y'all too extreme with your hate, it is quite literally a pretty fine game and you pretend it's the devil incarnate just because it's easy and linear.
    Anyway, it doesn't matter if SxS Gens will be linear or not, it matters if it's gonna be good or not. Which we won't know until we actually get to see it in full, so this whole argument is moot.

    • @snakey888
      @snakey888 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Non linear level design provides greater depth and replayability though.

  • @donttrunn
    @donttrunn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The vocal fans are the worst ones tbh I don’t have a problem with this game they complaining for no reason

  • @FloridaManProductions
    @FloridaManProductions 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man as a sonic fan im just happy we get to play as shadow. Ppl need to stfu and touch grass

  • @tephior
    @tephior 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I fail to understand why people complain about sonic games, Objectably one of my favorite franchises. I saw very little issue with Forces and I thought Frontiers was Peak Sonic for the last almost 15 years. Why complain about a small feature in specific areas when the rest of the game is smooth as fuck. Its a platformer and people over here are expecting the game to be on par with functions from games like Witcher or something.

    • @trufthmob
      @trufthmob 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amazing take thank u sir

  • @Schwoomy
    @Schwoomy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sonic fans can’t hold on to a single opinion for longer than 3 days, istg

  • @fotiskantis
    @fotiskantis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm actually excited for the game. The trailer got me hyped for the game and I'm surprised to see they're bringing more levels from even the 3DS version. Plus I'll finally have the chance to play it on Switch

  • @penguin_evere
    @penguin_evere 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    10:11 trying to slowly platform (specifically in this area of chem plant you’re playing) is very excruciating yes (was my the most traumatic moment of my childhood, playing this part of the level at 5 years old), but after having played it so much trying to figure out the fastest way to get through it without, figuring out all the right techniques for that area so i can get through the level without getting submerged in water (for the achievement), it became my favorite part of the level. (and it’s my favorite level in the game, layout-wise)
    this isn’t trying to argue, i completely agree with you, it would probably be a LOT better and easier with the frontiers gameplay. especially with all the modifications you can make to best suit your style. just saying how fun it is when you get the hang of it :)

  • @Themaskededitor4
    @Themaskededitor4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why are people mad already

    • @Dontclickmychannellll
      @Dontclickmychannellll 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s sonic fans I remember frontiers was shown ppl was hating on it

    • @mehiloll
      @mehiloll 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because they’re (the majority of the) Sonic fans, they gotta find something to hate on!

    • @Sonic171K
      @Sonic171K 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why are people happy already

    • @Themaskededitor4
      @Themaskededitor4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sonic171K cause new game

  • @TeaShuue
    @TeaShuue 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Silver needs his own game. The game could be about how the future slowly went to ruin because of Iblis' release. Then the ending of the game could him going to the future to fix things. The ending of Silver's game obviously leads into the beginning of Sonic 06. I understand alot of people hate 06 for various reasons... but I think most people can agree the general idea of the game and story writing was pretty good. I feel like if they made a solo game for Silver, and then came out with a revamped version of Sonic 06 (with of course all the bugs fixed out... and no Elise kissing Sonic's corpse at the end) they would make some serious bank... at the very least, I would play those games 😅

  • @malachiallen1517
    @malachiallen1517 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Personally, I'm happy that this game is coming out... ONLY FOR THE FACT THAT MY ASS COULDN'T AFFORD GENERATIONS NOR AN XBOX 360 AND THAT ITS BEEN OUT OF STOCK IN 2016, THE YEAR I BECAME A SONIC FAN! But now that it's on its way, I might have a second chance, seeing as I haven't played the Console version of Generations, only the 3DS version which was enjoyable to say the least, but gets kinda bland tbh.

  • @dangerouslysafe3
    @dangerouslysafe3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, Sonic fans are hating on Sonic X Shadow Generations?
    I suppose this means I'm not a Sonic fan then.
    Ah well, not like I'm missing much from the larger part of the community.

    • @SonicHubYT
      @SonicHubYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If anything the larger community is on TH-cam IMO twitter is just a loud micro niche of people

  • @MTHEDGEHOG
    @MTHEDGEHOG 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey if they have Super Shadow in it and I'm happy.

  • @PairOfKoopas
    @PairOfKoopas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Over 25 years as a Sonic fan and I'm EXCITED! Finally Something us Retro SA2 Era fans can get behind!

  • @macsmoments7006
    @macsmoments7006 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Put classic shadow in know it don't make sense but idc😂

  • @VectorAnimation1
    @VectorAnimation1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❌ Sonic and Shadow Generations
    ✅ Sonic x Shadow Generations

  • @lock4097
    @lock4097 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the anger/concern is directed in the wrong area. The concern I have is that Sonic Generations is already on PC with modding. Sonic Generations original will most likely be delisted meaning all the modding will go to waste and the people who already own generations on steam will have to rebuy the game (thats already in HD) for full price for what could merely be an extra hour of content at most. The modding community has done some fantastic work with Generations and all that work will go to waste thanks to the rerelease.

    • @SonicHubYT
      @SonicHubYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Honestly idk how I forgot to mention that They will probably delist gens, ruin the modding community, and slap denuvo on it lol

    • @lock4097
      @lock4097 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SonicHubYT aye man all good, it was a great video nonetheless! Also i forgot that part too, if they slap denuvo on new gen then all hells gonna break loose lol