I always knew that’s what the cliffhanger was meant to represent: it doesn’t matter what the shadowy figure was, all that mattered was that Sonic was back with his real friends in Green Hill and back to adventuring if the time came for them to step up. It left me pretty content because that’s what Sonic and Shadow wanted and worked so hard for.
@@mightyradish9672 it doesnt really matter either way, since its pretty much a 99% chance they wont show up ever again, especially as a show exclusive on netflix. if we do want to take it seriously in lore, with ian flynn saying it wipes itself out its most likely that all of the shatterspaces converged back into one universe again.
Although I enjoyed this series, the ending was pretty underwhelming. I will say the best part of it was seeing shadow go all out to save sonic. Throughout the series, they can have a bit of a love-hate relationship, but it’s great to really see that deep down Shadow does see Sonic as a friend he’s willing to give his all to save.
I honestly had hope that the prismatic sonic would come back considering he used the form without the completed paradox prism. Overall the season was still alright. The only bad parts were how long they decided to stretch the fight scene for and the ending. I had so much hope for the ending :/
Nooo, I actually had hope for Sonic Prime even after season 3 ended. This is really sad. I'm hoping they'll make another Sonic show soon. Sonic Prime had so much potential, the show was so good and then they did us so dirty with the ending. The ending was so unsatisfying, I'll never get over itttt
@@ijionclifton9148 Really? It's not about Sonic, it's about the viewers. Sonic will probably defeat Eggman and go back to enjoying life with his friends, but we never got to see any of that. There's a difference between just assuming something that'll most probably happen and something that's been confirmed. I wouldn't have minded the ending as much if they actually showed Sonic spending time with his friends again or their reaction to his story. Plus, it's not just the ending, it's also the ton of questions that were left unanswered. Where did Shadow take the Paradox Prism? What happened to the other shatter space variants? I refuse to believe they died because it was implied in the show that they would be living their lives when Sonic got back to green hill (Rebel Rouge says "you get to your home, we'll get to ours"). There's no way Nine wouldn't have figured out they were going to die if he brought back green hill. There were things in the show that were left unclear and unanswered which was also a problem. But overall, Sonic Prime's definitely one of the best Sonic shows. The ending was pathetic but other than that it was amazing and fun while it lasted. If you liked the ending, that's your opinion. But I think it's safe to say that majority of the people didn't like it or find it satisfying and I'm one of them.
@@LiivelyLulu I think what happened to the other shatter verses is that they still exist, the difference being that now paradox prism pieces don't exist in them, which would change each story except the Jungle one(The Paradox Prism piece didn't play a huge part in that story, so not much would change) For New Yoke, either the Chaos Council never attacked(Since they needed the Paradox Prism piece to power their city and their robots) or they did, however failed since they didn't have enough energy to powert their robots For the pirate story, Dread would still have his old crew since there wouldn't have been Amy treasure to collect, which was one of the main reasons he lost his old crew Either that or all the other shatter verses went with Prime and died
@@LiivelyLulu Maybe it's because I've seen so many bad endings to shows I've followed over the years, but honestly, Sonic Prime's ending doesn't even breach bad territory. And I will never understand the people getting so mad over it. Maybe I have to watch it again or something, but most of the criticism I've seen boils down to "I wanted the show to go how I expected it to, and it didn't, and now I'm sad." The only thing I understand is the fact that people wish it did MORE. Which I agree with. But for what the show was, the ending was good.
@@RandomSkull420 Yeah, if the shatter spaces still exist that's most likely what happened. It's ridiculous how they never showed us what happened and left that so unclear.
Since Sega is treating Prime as canon, I would place it after Lost World and before Forces. If you recall, Sonic makes a mistake in Lost World when he kicks the conch away from Eggman, similar to him destroying the Paradox Prism. It caused a mess, but Sonic didn't truly learn his lesson because nothing Earth shattering resulted from it. When he does it the next time in Prime, the result literally is Earth shattering, and he finally learns his lesson to not act so hastily at the end.
I really really hope we get more Sonic prime. It would make sense for them to pick it back up considering how successful it was. And I agree that it was a bit of an anti climactic ending; a lot of missed opportunities and a lot of things left unexplained. Like, where did Shadow take the Paradox prism. Idk, I just really hope we get more Sonic prime especially since idk if we will ever get a Shadow this great again…
My personal headcanon is that Prime takes place sometime around Sonic Colors or Lost World because that’s when Sonic’s personality would’ve been closest to what we see in Prime
I understand why they ended the show like this, but it wasn't the best way to end it, in my opinion. My best guess for a timeline placement is after Sonic Generations and before Sonic Lost World, but there still might be some problems with that I am unaware of. While I would've happily taken more episodes of this show, we don't really need any.
I actually never expected for a Sonic TV show ending to go that way. I know people were not happy about the ending, and I can kind of understand why. It's sad that it's done, but Prime was still good. It's awesome how it added to the Canon, but in my opinion, they could at least showed something that showcased what game or whatever happens next. It does wiped itself, and people get it. "Enjoy or "ignore " it is literally the solution. At least the show was good according to the people, until possibly the final Episode. There should be something like an after credits scene or something, but there's nothing that can be done. Great video essay, Chris!
Adding it to the canon is the single WORSE thing they could have done. The show would be SIGNIFICANLTY better if NOT canon The show was terrible too qnd not many people agree with you. P.s. I respect your opinions though and these are mine
Would be amazing if they dropped a 'secret' last episode along this time which set everything in place and removed the confusion. Well, too bad. I guess that's the most we can hope for from the Sonic franchise.
@@SonicHubYTmy issue is the whole season kinda focuses on sonic listening to his friends especially Tails and be able to consider what he wants, and we don’t get to see him talk to Tails, like you said in the video, “we waited almost 2 years to see sonics real friends and then they are on screen for just 2 minutes “ we know they will go back on adventures no cliff hanger is needed for that.
I think Sonic Prime takes place after Secret Rings and Unleashed but before Black Knight. In Secret Rings, Sonic can't even begin to fathom the possibility that Ali Baba isn't Tails even though he looks just like him. He does the same thing in Prime, at first anyway. He doesn't understand that Nine isn't Tails. "It doesn't make sense. You are Tails, but you're not? Here but gone?" And he keeps calling Rusty Rose "Rusty Amy" and for the first few episodes, until he winds up in Boscage Maze, he puts down everyone's actions as them losing their memory. "When you get your memory back, you'll remember that 'low profile' isn't my style." "But of course, nobody remembers any of that, so we're gonna fix it." He learns that they aren't the people he thinks they are throughout the show and by Black Knight, he doesn't question it, except with Lancelot. Why? Because Shadow wasn't split the first time. The line is, "Who the heck are you? Shadow?" And then Lancelot corrects him and Sonic realises that it isn't Shadow. It also has to take place after Unleashed because Orbot and Cubot are present, and in Unleashed, Cubot didn't exist and Orbot was still in prototype form as "SA-55".
Out of all the theories I've seen, this one seems the most reasonable. Plus, I just like the idea of the storybook games getting more involved for once, despite all their flaws.
I personally like to set the events of sonic prime, sometime following Sonic Lost World. Sonics, borderline, juvenile personality in prime would fit right at home with the meta-era. We know the show has to be set sometime after Sonic Colors since Orbot and Cubot exist. I don’t want to set this after forces, because then you would have to place this during IDW, and figuring out how it would fit in there would be a nightmare. And I really dislike the idea that sonic would be so immature following the events of Sonic Frontiers. So I think setting it either shortly before or shortly after the events of lost world would be the best bet (I prefer after, since I feel like sonic wouldn’t be reckless in lost world if he had literally just destroyed all of reality by being reckless and impatient.)
I'll only say this, The Producers of Sonic Prime dropping that Cliffhanger in the End of the Series allows them to just continue it whenever they want, and by saying that it's over, it could also be considered as them taking a break and work on other projects aside for Sonic Prime. They'll continue it if they feel like it, due to them having other Series to make, and by ending it in such a way, they could continue it whenever.
Did… did no one else understand the “cliffhanger” was supposed to be just the start of his next adventure? People actually thought it was a cliffhanger? 😂
Not a lot of people like it, but for what it's worth I liked Sonic Prime it does action great and personally I'd be down for these guys to make more Sonic stuff, they clearly have the talent and the numbers don't lie💖💖
I hope we get a Sonic anime next animated by a studio like Studio Trigger, that would honestly be peak. Preferably with similar quality of writing that Sonic X had too
Sonic Prime has to be at the very least after Generations as Cubot and Orbot were made in Sonic Colours and Eggman spent all the time after Colours stranded in space before finding the time Eater in Generations And in Lost world he saw a potential weapon in Eggman's hands and acted as if he thought it would free the Deadly six from Eggman. I see it as Sonic still adjusting to the lesson he just learned in Sonic Prime as he wouldn't be use to it straight off the bat.
Well, Ian Flynn made another comment as a follow up regarding about this. He was reminding everyone that he did say "Sometime" after Advance 3(not directly after it), which covers Unleashed and Colors given Orbot and Cubot appearance's in the show.
I actually enjoyed the ending to Sonic Prime. The series had started the way most of Sonic's many stories start; the hedgehog running towards action and about to begin a new chapter in his life. Along with this, the games and stories also end in a similar sense; Sonic runs off at the end of the story or even heads off to his next chapter. This, going back to Sonic Prime, matches everything mentioned. Sonic heading off to another fight or story in his life is not an uncommon thing the fans have seen. This is what made me enjoy the ending, despite it being somewhat of a cliffhanger.
For me, I’ve saw season 3 as the final season ever since I’ve watched the ending of season 1, mainly because all streaming service series nowadays end on a 3rd season, and I’ll also say this, I never saw that ending of season 3 as a cliffhanger, anyone remember the Incredibles ended? And plus the final episode did finished what the series began with, which was Sonic trying to get back to his friends and home, and since Season 3 finally got there, so whats the point for a 4th season if what started since the beginning is completed?
This isn’t a cliffhanger, it’s a full circle ending. Like it being said, the ending explains that the adventure continues.😊 Who cares if it wasn’t 8 episodes, it’s only an idea, we had S1 E1 as a double episode.😂 I loved this show & the ending was great too, no one can tell me otherwise.❤ Looking forward to seeing more shows in the future.
iin my own opinion Sonic primes ending was really good i absolutely loved it it was incredible it was awesome and i think they did an amazing job and i love it if we get a 4 one or not I would be happy either way
Truthfully if they want the show to be considered canon and make statements like that they should at least be able to back them up and pinpoint when otherwise it will rile people up
Why are people so obsessed with knowing what happened in the final scene of Sonic Prime? It was clearly meant to be an open ending, that last threat isn't reveled so the viewers ca imagine their own ending. It's supposed to signify future adventures that the viewer can imagine for themselves. When did fans become so uncreative that we need shows and movies to spell everything out for us? What happened to interpreting and imagining media beyond what we simply see on-screen? This isn't a problem unique to Sonic fans, it's a problem with modern media consumption in general. There's no creativity by fans anymore, they need to be spoon fed every story beat and for everything to be explained outside the media. Come on guys and girls, let's use our brains instead having some random writer explain what the show was obviously implying. Good media doesn't need an explanation outside of the media and good viewers don't need a social media post to make everything make sense.
It's not about being creative, it's about wanting satisfaction and a proper conclusion to the ending especially for the fact that the show is canon to the main timeline, you can't just make up random stuff that'll contradict the timeline for the sake of being creative.
My major takeaway to when it takes place is really any time after SA2, Sonic is a really silly guy who is not much of a team player prior to that but all the games after he has a much more serious tone and works with his pals much more after SA2 (I think it takes place around Colors 3 but not necessarily before or after possibly right after the first level of C3). The main difference that is not simply erased is Sonic's mind set it is the moment for Sonic where he becomes more of the modern Sonic the Hedgehog
I find it really funny that I binged season 3 at like 2am and just guessed that this was the answer. That it closes a loop and the "cliffhanger" was probably just sonics next adventure and I was just gonna ignore it in terms of the main canon. Like didn't anyone else think it was obvious? I mean at this point it's been confirmed by 2 different people but the fact that there was this much discourse and arguments over this is hilarious.
This is what i thought the whole time. The first episode was twice the length, which counts as 2 episodes, and i always thought the ending was supposed to be ambiguous.
I mean it’s also possible prime happens sometimes after colors because orbot and cubot are there and cubot voice is normal but again like I said at the beginning the voice of cubot might also been working perfectly before colors
This is probably the only Sonic show I will rewatch over and over again mainly cause of the funny lines and of course Shadow and Sonic brotherly moments
If what Duncan said about the blue wave energy being probably another attack from egg man is indeed the case, then how come the blue wave of energy resembles the Paradox Prism, its shards or the Chaos Council???
I'm not crazy about the ending either but I understand what they were trying to portray, and it doesn't take away my enjoyment of Sonic Prime, although I do feel like this season was a downgrade from season 2.
I mean, Sonic was going to tell his friends about what happened in that ending scene(since he's the only one who remembers), before he was interrupted by that same blast(probably Eggman).
You guys can continue to call me crazy all you want but notice how Duncan keeps saying “at the moment” it doesn’t mean right now and it doesn’t mean in the future so even the creator of Sonic Prime is saying he can’t confirm or deny a season 4 so all I will say is keep your hope! If you believe that a Sonic Prime Season 4 is a possibility keep your hope! If not look forward to the next Sonic Series!
I kinda thought it wasn't a cliffhanger because because sonic and friends always have a battle and thought it could be something like eggman again or another threat like in the games and plus to me Sonic prime has a natural story and feels like a over
Honestly, I think I get the "Sonic is back onto his next adventure" part. Sonic has fought Eggman a dozen or so times. We've seen many, there are times we haven't seen. The cliffhanger was just another one of those times. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.
Also I’m still freaking confused on how the rules of the prism worked, I thought sonics world was one timeline but shattering the prism basically birthed these new worlds at the cost of green hill, and when the prism is fixed sonic is basically about to be thanosed but every other character is fine??? Shouldn’t have they died/fused to recreate sonics friend’s???
I assumed the shatterspace was always there, on a timeline linked to green hills through the prism, and sonic caused the temporary death of green hills by sending the parts of the prism to the worlds they originated from. I really wanted a post-series rundown though, just something to explain what happened to the spaces after somic left. Maybe even the different versions meeting and helping each other from their respective worlds, turning it into a bigger team. Idk
I'm glad they finally explained this, I always assumed this was what they were going for. But they left it ambiguous enough to not be certain, so it's good they commented on this. Although I do somewhat agree the ending was a bit underwhelming, I do think it fit the tone of the show, and it's pretty much how I expected it to end. Keeping the other universes around somehow would have been nice, but I wouldn't be shocked if they find a way to bring them back in the future. I mostly just wish we had a bit longer with the original universe characters. I mostly want to hear more of the new VAs for the main cast. The gimick versions obviously weren't supposed to sound much like the original characters, I coild be wrong but I believe some of the varients even used entirely different VAs (please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). I want to see how this show portrays these main timeline characters both in voice and characterisation. We got like maybe 2 minutes at the most of some of these characters.
While the 3rd season felt rushed, I actually really loved the show, more than any other Sonic show tbh. My favorite part was their interpretation of Shadow, I think they nailed it better than even the games have done.
Sonichub episode 8 of season 3 needs to happen because 24 episodes were requested if they merged 2 episodes into 1 then they should have told us along the way.
Shows like Demonslayer have done the merging thing too, why do they need to tell us if we can just check. We got the same amount of screen time as we would have with 8 eps not merged
my issue is the whole season kinda focuses on sonic listening to his friends especially Tails and be able to consider what he wants, and we don’t get to see him talk to Tails, like you said in the video, “we waited almost 2 years to see sonics real friends and then they are on screen for just 2 minutes “ we know they will go back on adventures no cliff hanger is needed for that.
I cried when I finished the last episode with some friends, I was like, “welp, that’s it, it’s over, I love you all! Goodbye, that’s a wrap..” it’s sad to just watch the last episode of your favorite show, I just want to go back to when season 1 came out..
I’m just sad that after everything, Nines ending is really just… the kid living in Grim by himself all alone with no one? After we see him soften and like the idea of having a friend like Sonic? I feel like they did so much building his character and breaking down his walls and showing him what he could have, only for him to just live in solitude with no one :/ Also the Egg council is still around. Won’t they still be an issue? Won’t they still terrorize New Yolk? And where did Shadow take/hide the paradox Prism? Clearly we can’t destroy it, so WHERE!? And I agree the ending wasn’t great. SO MUCH of the show was Sonic pining after his friends and showing us a drastic alternate timeline of his best friend (and I feel like they really focused on his and Tails friendship) only to do NOTHING with it in the end
Well for nine, his only “friend” was really just sonic, and he also just preferred living alone, and with sonic gone, what was he meant to do. For the eggman council, we see them being blasted off into space, so they probably never came back. Shadow must’ve hid it well, and the chaos emeralds still exist but no major problems have been occurring with them
personally, eggman's mech looks very similar to the egg dragoon, so my headcanon it happens between unleashed and colours and the giant shadow everyone sees is just one of the many planets eclipsing the sun, but hey its a headcannon with little evidence.
Sonic Prime really needed an epilogue, we have so many unanswered mysteries. If they wanted to end with another adventure, commit to it and have the show end with Sonic and Eggman clashing head to head aboard the Egg Fleet, I dunno.
In my opinion sonic prime takes place after colors because that’s when orbot and cubot were invented. (I know a variant of orbot was in unleashed but I meant the REAL cubot that we know today).
So basically the aftermath was terrible and the show shouldn't have been canon is what I've gotten out of it. The whole "show wipes itself out" thing is what ruins it for me.
If you want to cover the time frame, I think Prime was before Colors. I don't recall seeing the miles electric device(correct/ignore me if wrong) throughout the show and that device started showing up around Colors. Just a bit of detail I thought to point out.
I really enjoyed seeing advance 3 in the show, but it was weird having weirdly coloured genesis sprites next to gba spritework. Still really cool though!
I think it would’ve been a way more satisfying ending if they hadn’t had the shadowy figure at the end- it just kind of gave everyone false hope that there were more episodes when they could’ve just had sonic reunite with his friends and be a happy ending
I think it would have been cool at the end of the final episode eggman is pissed off at shadow for stealing the prism but then he opens a portal by accident and silver steps through and eggman goes “who are you” and silver with the camera zoomed on his eyes goes “I’m here to stop sonic”
when i saw the ending i had thought there was another sonic from one of the s1 episodes explaining that sonic has not landed in a wrong timeline where it’s exactly the same but just another sonic from the same universe💀
Cannon ≠ Timeline, something can be cannon, but in another world or reality or timeline, the Marvel Multiverse or DC multiverse are all cannon to eachother’s respective publishers, but not all in the same world.
I think Eggman just launched another death egg because if you look at the shadow of the threat it’s kinda rounded and the blue lights give me massive death egg vibes and I think he didn’t know sonic was above the launch base
Easy placement. Between Sonic Lost World and Forces. Basically imagine if we got Prime instead of BOOM. It can’t be before Lost World because Lost World is pretty about Sonic being hasty and not listening to his friend. But in the end the lesson seemed to be geared more towards his perspective of Tails, or so we could say if Prime happens afterwards. Plus the rebels in New Yolk seems like it could foreshadow the revolution in Forces. It would also emphasize Sonic waiting for Tails’ advice at the beginning of Forces. But really it wasn’t just Tails who “failed” him. Shadow never made it to warm or assist Sonic after meeting Infinite. And I can see Shadow here being one that comes after Prime. Also, Eggman uses an Egg Dragoon in Prime but it’s not seen as a big deal. So it’s likely after both Unleashed and Generations. It’s not in Lost World but it’s in Forces.
I have mixed feels on Sonic Prime. I like the concept and the show was overall pretty fun. Season 3 felt like they didn’t have a lot and just stretched one fight for way too long. I already felt a bit meh about how limited it was as a multiverses show. Not having Sonic and shadow split made less options for who could show up and the egg council did a similar thing for me. I would have liked to see more variants for variety and more of a shock factor. Sure stuff like evil pirate cream the rabbit would be a bit weird but there’s a lot they could’ve played around with. Season 3 had cool moments but I feel like it could have been better. (All of this is imo it’s okay if you disagree)
Just wish they showed what happened to the shatter verse characters for example Is nine accepted back and has a new journey? Did the new yoke variants get their old green hill back? And so many more
People are saying prime whips it selfs out but thats not true, right before the cliffhsnger you can see an energy wave from thr paradox prism, it safe to say that nothing was whiped outside modeen sonic universe. Time in sonic universe after being restored was reversed a bit and sonic& shadow memory were intact. On top of that the shatter spaces that were created by paradox prism out of sonic universe also still exisit.
So now that we have all the context, what are your thoughts on The Sonic Prime series?
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I enjoyed it.
7/10
3 years? its only been 1 year
@@waff64 Show was announced 3 years ago
I liked it
Season 1:
5/10
Season 2:
7/10
Season 3:
9/10
@@RyanKhan-j3h nah season 1 was the best because it was the least repetetive
I always knew that’s what the cliffhanger was meant to represent: it doesn’t matter what the shadowy figure was, all that mattered was that Sonic was back with his real friends in Green Hill and back to adventuring if the time came for them to step up. It left me pretty content because that’s what Sonic and Shadow wanted and worked so hard for.
It just worries me that it's unclear if Nine and the others still exist or not.
unfortunately im pretty sure they no longer exist.
thank you for letting me skip the video
@@mightyradish9672 it doesnt really matter either way, since its pretty much a 99% chance they wont show up ever again, especially as a show exclusive on netflix. if we do want to take it seriously in lore, with ian flynn saying it wipes itself out its most likely that all of the shatterspaces converged back into one universe again.
Still a shit ending
Although I enjoyed this series, the ending was pretty underwhelming.
I will say the best part of it was seeing shadow go all out to save sonic. Throughout the series, they can have a bit of a love-hate relationship, but it’s great to really see that deep down Shadow does see Sonic as a friend he’s willing to give his all to save.
I agree
Yeah shadow 's character was restored
The action featuring Sonic's friends themselves was also underwhelming.
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I honestly had hope that the prismatic sonic would come back considering he used the form without the completed paradox prism. Overall the season was still alright. The only bad parts were how long they decided to stretch the fight scene for and the ending. I had so much hope for the ending :/
Nooo, I actually had hope for Sonic Prime even after season 3 ended. This is really sad. I'm hoping they'll make another Sonic show soon. Sonic Prime had so much potential, the show was so good and then they did us so dirty with the ending. The ending was so unsatisfying, I'll never get over itttt
The ending was satisfying sonic did what he wanted to do since season 1 simple
@@ijionclifton9148 Really? It's not about Sonic, it's about the viewers. Sonic will probably defeat Eggman and go back to enjoying life with his friends, but we never got to see any of that. There's a difference between just assuming something that'll most probably happen and something that's been confirmed. I wouldn't have minded the ending as much if they actually showed Sonic spending time with his friends again or their reaction to his story. Plus, it's not just the ending, it's also the ton of questions that were left unanswered. Where did Shadow take the Paradox Prism? What happened to the other shatter space variants? I refuse to believe they died because it was implied in the show that they would be living their lives when Sonic got back to green hill (Rebel Rouge says "you get to your home, we'll get to ours"). There's no way Nine wouldn't have figured out they were going to die if he brought back green hill. There were things in the show that were left unclear and unanswered which was also a problem. But overall, Sonic Prime's definitely one of the best Sonic shows. The ending was pathetic but other than that it was amazing and fun while it lasted. If you liked the ending, that's your opinion. But I think it's safe to say that majority of the people didn't like it or find it satisfying and I'm one of them.
@@LiivelyLulu I think what happened to the other shatter verses is that they still exist, the difference being that now paradox prism pieces don't exist in them, which would change each story except the Jungle one(The Paradox Prism piece didn't play a huge part in that story, so not much would change)
For New Yoke, either the Chaos Council never attacked(Since they needed the Paradox Prism piece to power their city and their robots) or they did, however failed since they didn't have enough energy to powert their robots
For the pirate story, Dread would still have his old crew since there wouldn't have been Amy treasure to collect, which was one of the main reasons he lost his old crew
Either that or all the other shatter verses went with Prime and died
@@LiivelyLulu Maybe it's because I've seen so many bad endings to shows I've followed over the years, but honestly, Sonic Prime's ending doesn't even breach bad territory. And I will never understand the people getting so mad over it. Maybe I have to watch it again or something, but most of the criticism I've seen boils down to "I wanted the show to go how I expected it to, and it didn't, and now I'm sad."
The only thing I understand is the fact that people wish it did MORE. Which I agree with. But for what the show was, the ending was good.
@@RandomSkull420 Yeah, if the shatter spaces still exist that's most likely what happened. It's ridiculous how they never showed us what happened and left that so unclear.
Since Sega is treating Prime as canon, I would place it after Lost World and before Forces. If you recall, Sonic makes a mistake in Lost World when he kicks the conch away from Eggman, similar to him destroying the Paradox Prism. It caused a mess, but Sonic didn't truly learn his lesson because nothing Earth shattering resulted from it. When he does it the next time in Prime, the result literally is Earth shattering, and he finally learns his lesson to not act so hastily at the end.
I really really hope we get more Sonic prime. It would make sense for them to pick it back up considering how successful it was. And I agree that it was a bit of an anti climactic ending; a lot of missed opportunities and a lot of things left unexplained. Like, where did Shadow take the Paradox prism.
Idk, I just really hope we get more Sonic prime especially since idk if we will ever get a Shadow this great again…
Yeah they def could have made another season work
@@SonicHubYT I thought sonic prime was realeased in 2023 💀
My personal headcanon is that Prime takes place sometime around Sonic Colors or Lost World because that’s when Sonic’s personality would’ve been closest to what we see in Prime
I understand why they ended the show like this, but it wasn't the best way to end it, in my opinion. My best guess for a timeline placement is after Sonic Generations and before Sonic Lost World, but there still might be some problems with that I am unaware of. While I would've happily taken more episodes of this show, we don't really need any.
At least better than the dark Crystal age of resistance season 2 cancellation
At least they Made actual a ending not a damn Cliffhanger
@@jasminkrieger8464 What's that?
@@RandomSkull420 its on netflix
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I actually never expected for a Sonic TV show ending to go that way. I know people were not happy about the ending, and I can kind of understand why. It's sad that it's done, but Prime was still good. It's awesome how it added to the Canon, but in my opinion, they could at least showed something that showcased what game or whatever happens next. It does wiped itself, and people get it. "Enjoy or "ignore " it is literally the solution. At least the show was good according to the people, until possibly the final Episode. There should be something like an after credits scene or something, but there's nothing that can be done. Great video essay, Chris!
Adding it to the canon is the single WORSE thing they could have done. The show would be SIGNIFICANLTY better if NOT canon
The show was terrible too qnd not many people agree with you.
P.s. I respect your opinions though and these are mine
I’m happy it’s over
@@bbguy2245that's a bit mean
It should NOT be canon.
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Would be amazing if they dropped a 'secret' last episode along this time which set everything in place and removed the confusion. Well, too bad. I guess that's the most we can hope for from the Sonic franchise.
Prior to any of this news I woulda said that was gonna happen lol
It is ashame that Sonic Prime is over it was such a fun show and I hope the next show is not too far away.
With how well Sonic Prime did in terms of viewership, maybe SEGA, Netflix, Man of Action, and WildBrain will make another Sonic show.
Yeah I hope we get another show with the modern cast again
And even better, it could pick up where sonic prime left off
@@SonicHubYTmy issue is the whole season kinda focuses on sonic listening to his friends especially Tails and be able to consider what he wants, and we don’t get to see him talk to Tails, like you said in the video, “we waited almost 2 years to see sonics real friends and then they are on screen for just 2 minutes “ we know they will go back on adventures no cliff hanger is needed for that.
@@SonicHubYTye
I think Sonic Prime takes place after Secret Rings and Unleashed but before Black Knight.
In Secret Rings, Sonic can't even begin to fathom the possibility that Ali Baba isn't Tails even though he looks just like him. He does the same thing in Prime, at first anyway. He doesn't understand that Nine isn't Tails. "It doesn't make sense. You are Tails, but you're not? Here but gone?" And he keeps calling Rusty Rose "Rusty Amy" and for the first few episodes, until he winds up in Boscage Maze, he puts down everyone's actions as them losing their memory. "When you get your memory back, you'll remember that 'low profile' isn't my style."
"But of course, nobody remembers any of that, so we're gonna fix it."
He learns that they aren't the people he thinks they are throughout the show and by Black Knight, he doesn't question it, except with Lancelot. Why? Because Shadow wasn't split the first time. The line is, "Who the heck are you? Shadow?" And then Lancelot corrects him and Sonic realises that it isn't Shadow. It also has to take place after Unleashed because Orbot and Cubot are present, and in Unleashed, Cubot didn't exist and Orbot was still in prototype form as "SA-55".
Out of all the theories I've seen, this one seems the most reasonable. Plus, I just like the idea of the storybook games getting more involved for once, despite all their flaws.
Prime didnt even need to be Canon, not every piece of Sonic media needs to be.
Exactly.
Yeah but on the bright side,shadow isn’t a edge lord anymore . They finally fixed his character
@D.N.Aisback that was truly a blessing, needs to be the same in the canon entries.
@@Cloke100 Ong. They really messed his character up after his own game . Shadow was never supposed to be edgy
@D.N.Aisback everyone that understood his character must have had left after 06, where he peaked, glad to see that he's healing.
I personally like to set the events of sonic prime, sometime following Sonic Lost World.
Sonics, borderline, juvenile personality in prime would fit right at home with the meta-era. We know the show has to be set sometime after Sonic Colors since Orbot and Cubot exist. I don’t want to set this after forces, because then you would have to place this during IDW, and figuring out how it would fit in there would be a nightmare. And I really dislike the idea that sonic would be so immature following the events of Sonic Frontiers.
So I think setting it either shortly before or shortly after the events of lost world would be the best bet (I prefer after, since I feel like sonic wouldn’t be reckless in lost world if he had literally just destroyed all of reality by being reckless and impatient.)
I'll only say this, The Producers of Sonic Prime dropping that Cliffhanger in the End of the Series allows them to just continue it whenever they want, and by saying that it's over, it could also be considered as them taking a break and work on other projects aside for Sonic Prime.
They'll continue it if they feel like it, due to them having other Series to make, and by ending it in such a way, they could continue it whenever.
So, is that why. I mean I’m not complaining. It still a good season.
Did… did no one else understand the “cliffhanger” was supposed to be just the start of his next adventure? People actually thought it was a cliffhanger? 😂
I actually quite like this,to be honest!
Like the whole Prime events being wiped out I mean,it's interesting.
It's kind of a lazy way for them to force this show to be canon and not have to be put on the timeline
Not a lot of people like it, but for what it's worth I liked Sonic Prime it does action great and personally I'd be down for these guys to make more Sonic stuff, they clearly have the talent and the numbers don't lie💖💖
I hope we get a Sonic anime next animated by a studio like Studio Trigger, that would honestly be peak. Preferably with similar quality of writing that Sonic X had too
Would love another Sonic Anime tbh
it could make sonic more popular in japan if it turns out to be a hit
Same here
Sonic Prime has to be at the very least after Generations as Cubot and Orbot were made in Sonic Colours and Eggman spent all the time after Colours stranded in space before finding the time Eater in Generations
And in Lost world he saw a potential weapon in Eggman's hands and acted as if he thought it would free the Deadly six from Eggman. I see it as Sonic still adjusting to the lesson he just learned in Sonic Prime as he wouldn't be use to it straight off the bat.
Well, Ian Flynn made another comment as a follow up regarding about this. He was reminding everyone that he did say "Sometime" after Advance 3(not directly after it), which covers Unleashed and Colors given Orbot and Cubot appearance's in the show.
@@boltthelunarian1405 thats what i said
I actually enjoyed the ending to Sonic Prime.
The series had started the way most of Sonic's many stories start; the hedgehog running towards action and about to begin a new chapter in his life. Along with this, the games and stories also end in a similar sense; Sonic runs off at the end of the story or even heads off to his next chapter.
This, going back to Sonic Prime, matches everything mentioned. Sonic heading off to another fight or story in his life is not an uncommon thing the fans have seen.
This is what made me enjoy the ending, despite it being somewhat of a cliffhanger.
For me, I’ve saw season 3 as the final season ever since I’ve watched the ending of season 1, mainly because all streaming service series nowadays end on a 3rd season, and I’ll also say this, I never saw that ending of season 3 as a cliffhanger, anyone remember the Incredibles ended? And plus the final episode did finished what the series began with, which was Sonic trying to get back to his friends and home, and since Season 3 finally got there, so whats the point for a 4th season if what started since the beginning is completed?
Imagine they make a season 4, I will keep my hopes low but I would still like a season 4.
This isn’t a cliffhanger, it’s a full circle ending.
Like it being said, the ending explains that the adventure continues.😊
Who cares if it wasn’t 8 episodes, it’s only an idea, we had S1 E1 as a double episode.😂
I loved this show & the ending was great too, no one can tell me otherwise.❤
Looking forward to seeing more shows in the future.
iin my own opinion Sonic primes ending was really good i absolutely loved it it was incredible it was awesome and i think they did an amazing job and i love it if we get a 4 one or not I would be happy either way
3:42 let’s be honest, fans of anything never ignore that. especially if it’s on twitter.
Truthfully if they want the show to be considered canon and make statements like that they should at least be able to back them up and pinpoint when otherwise it will rile people up
@@SonicHubYT yeah
Agreed
Why are people so obsessed with knowing what happened in the final scene of Sonic Prime? It was clearly meant to be an open ending, that last threat isn't reveled so the viewers ca imagine their own ending. It's supposed to signify future adventures that the viewer can imagine for themselves.
When did fans become so uncreative that we need shows and movies to spell everything out for us? What happened to interpreting and imagining media beyond what we simply see on-screen? This isn't a problem unique to Sonic fans, it's a problem with modern media consumption in general. There's no creativity by fans anymore, they need to be spoon fed every story beat and for everything to be explained outside the media.
Come on guys and girls, let's use our brains instead having some random writer explain what the show was obviously implying. Good media doesn't need an explanation outside of the media and good viewers don't need a social media post to make everything make sense.
True. For me I was satisfied with the ending I know want an epic battle for the conclusion
It's not about being creative, it's about wanting satisfaction and a proper conclusion to the ending especially for the fact that the show is canon to the main timeline, you can't just make up random stuff that'll contradict the timeline for the sake of being creative.
@@LiivelyLulu it’s not supposed to be canon tho
@@lolfunnyboi But it is, so instead of being mad about it, we should just accept it.
@@lolfunnyboi Prime is canon, it was stated before
My major takeaway to when it takes place is really any time after SA2, Sonic is a really silly guy who is not much of a team player prior to that but all the games after he has a much more serious tone and works with his pals much more after SA2 (I think it takes place around Colors 3 but not necessarily before or after possibly right after the first level of C3). The main difference that is not simply erased is Sonic's mind set it is the moment for Sonic where he becomes more of the modern Sonic the Hedgehog
I theorized that the Chaos Council somehow returned.
I also predicted the “brotherhood of Metallix” (the Grim bots) appearing as Nine’s henchmen
I find it really funny that I binged season 3 at like 2am and just guessed that this was the answer. That it closes a loop and the "cliffhanger" was probably just sonics next adventure and I was just gonna ignore it in terms of the main canon. Like didn't anyone else think it was obvious?
I mean at this point it's been confirmed by 2 different people but the fact that there was this much discourse and arguments over this is hilarious.
This is what i thought the whole time. The first episode was twice the length, which counts as 2 episodes, and i always thought the ending was supposed to be ambiguous.
I mean it’s also possible prime happens sometimes after colors because orbot and cubot are there and cubot voice is normal but again like I said at the beginning the voice of cubot might also been working perfectly before colors
The Cliffhanger was the Big Eggman that was defeated in season 2 that reappeared. Also , what happened to 9 and the others in New Yoke?
This is probably the only Sonic show I will rewatch over and over again mainly cause of the funny lines and of course Shadow and Sonic brotherly moments
On seeing the reaction on Sonic's face, pretty sure that thing that appeared at the ending was a machine of Eggman
If what Duncan said about the blue wave energy being probably another attack from egg man is indeed the case, then how come the blue wave of energy resembles the Paradox Prism, its shards or the Chaos Council???
I'm not crazy about the ending either but I understand what they were trying to portray, and it doesn't take away my enjoyment of Sonic Prime, although I do feel like this season was a downgrade from season 2.
The trauma that only sonic and shadow will know, and they cant tell anyone else about it. Damn what a way to bring two characters together… hmm🤨
I mean, Sonic was going to tell his friends about what happened in that ending scene(since he's the only one who remembers), before he was interrupted by that same blast(probably Eggman).
prime takes place sometime after colors man orbot and cubot is there
idk why its so hard for people to understand
You guys can continue to call me crazy all you want but notice how Duncan keeps saying “at the moment” it doesn’t mean right now and it doesn’t mean in the future so even the creator of Sonic Prime is saying he can’t confirm or deny a season 4 so all I will say is keep your hope! If you believe that a Sonic Prime Season 4 is a possibility keep your hope! If not look forward to the next Sonic Series!
Das what I’m sayingg
To be honest, my guess is that Sonic Prime takes place after Sonic Generations.
🤝 Agreed Sonic Prime Should take Place After Sonic Generation I didn't mind Sonic Prime is Canon is taking place Before Frontiers and Dream Team
I kinda thought it wasn't a cliffhanger because because sonic and friends always have a battle and thought it could be something like eggman again or another threat like in the games and plus to me Sonic prime has a natural story and feels like a over
I had always figured it was the generic Egg Machine...
Sonic Prime was good, but just for future reference for the next Sonic show, please add Silver…
I wanted to see a final conversation between sonic and shadow and maybe seeing them hug and sonic thanking shadow
Honestly, I think I get the "Sonic is back onto his next adventure" part. Sonic has fought Eggman a dozen or so times. We've seen many, there are times we haven't seen. The cliffhanger was just another one of those times. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.
Man this was a bummer but it was a really good show can’t wait for the next Sonic series 😃
Also I’m still freaking confused on how the rules of the prism worked, I thought sonics world was one timeline but shattering the prism basically birthed these new worlds at the cost of green hill, and when the prism is fixed sonic is basically about to be thanosed but every other character is fine??? Shouldn’t have they died/fused to recreate sonics friend’s???
I assumed the shatterspace was always there, on a timeline linked to green hills through the prism, and sonic caused the temporary death of green hills by sending the parts of the prism to the worlds they originated from. I really wanted a post-series rundown though, just something to explain what happened to the spaces after somic left. Maybe even the different versions meeting and helping each other from their respective worlds, turning it into a bigger team. Idk
I think that the cliffhanger is actually a teaser for another sonic show that either takes place after prime, or a show just like prime
I'm glad they finally explained this, I always assumed this was what they were going for. But they left it ambiguous enough to not be certain, so it's good they commented on this.
Although I do somewhat agree the ending was a bit underwhelming, I do think it fit the tone of the show, and it's pretty much how I expected it to end. Keeping the other universes around somehow would have been nice, but I wouldn't be shocked if they find a way to bring them back in the future.
I mostly just wish we had a bit longer with the original universe characters. I mostly want to hear more of the new VAs for the main cast. The gimick versions obviously weren't supposed to sound much like the original characters, I coild be wrong but I believe some of the varients even used entirely different VAs (please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). I want to see how this show portrays these main timeline characters both in voice and characterisation. We got like maybe 2 minutes at the most of some of these characters.
While the 3rd season felt rushed, I actually really loved the show, more than any other Sonic show tbh. My favorite part was their interpretation of Shadow, I think they nailed it better than even the games have done.
Sonichub episode 8 of season 3 needs to happen because 24 episodes were requested if they merged 2 episodes into 1 then they should have told us along the way.
Shows like Demonslayer have done the merging thing too, why do they need to tell us if we can just check. We got the same amount of screen time as we would have with 8 eps not merged
I was hoping for Silver the Hedgehog to come in that final scene?! Like what the hell?! 😮😱 but i actually enjoyed season 3.. I wanted Silver!!.. 😭
my issue is the whole season kinda focuses on sonic listening to his friends especially Tails and be able to consider what he wants, and we don’t get to see him talk to Tails, like you said in the video, “we waited almost 2 years to see sonics real friends and then they are on screen for just 2 minutes “ we know they will go back on adventures no cliff hanger is needed for that.
I cried when I finished the last episode with some friends, I was like, “welp, that’s it, it’s over, I love you all! Goodbye, that’s a wrap..” it’s sad to just watch the last episode of your favorite show, I just want to go back to when season 1 came out..
I STILL WANT S4 SONIC PRIME
I’m still curious who attacked at the end…although, I do understand that it just symbolises Sonic is on another adventure.
Huh. I'm confused on when those games happen. I gotta learn about that lore.
I’m just sad that after everything, Nines ending is really just… the kid living in Grim by himself all alone with no one? After we see him soften and like the idea of having a friend like Sonic? I feel like they did so much building his character and breaking down his walls and showing him what he could have, only for him to just live in solitude with no one :/
Also the Egg council is still around. Won’t they still be an issue? Won’t they still terrorize New Yolk?
And where did Shadow take/hide the paradox Prism? Clearly we can’t destroy it, so WHERE!?
And I agree the ending wasn’t great. SO MUCH of the show was Sonic pining after his friends and showing us a drastic alternate timeline of his best friend (and I feel like they really focused on his and Tails friendship) only to do NOTHING with it in the end
Well for nine, his only “friend” was really just sonic, and he also just preferred living alone, and with sonic gone, what was he meant to do.
For the eggman council, we see them being blasted off into space, so they probably never came back. Shadow must’ve hid it well, and the chaos emeralds still exist but no major problems have been occurring with them
Right sonic is off on his next adventure but, the cliffhanger was much more then another attack, it was, something else
My biggest question is: Why sonic calls HIS WORLD green hill When sunset hill, angel island and emerald hill exist in the show?
Sonic hub when u were playing css hidden palace and that guy clickbated you, you went into the wrong one lol
personally, eggman's mech looks very similar to the egg dragoon, so my headcanon it happens between unleashed and colours and the giant shadow everyone sees is just one of the many planets eclipsing the sun, but hey its a headcannon with little evidence.
I guess this means the ending is an "And the Adventure Continues" ending.
The epic battle was amazing. You’re goofy. That was a perfect ending
1:51 His face gets me every time!🤣
I’m ngl Nine was a lot tougher than I expected, he ate that sucker punch from Knuckles with a brass 💀
Sonic Prime really needed an epilogue, we have so many unanswered mysteries. If they wanted to end with another adventure, commit to it and have the show end with Sonic and Eggman clashing head to head aboard the Egg Fleet, I dunno.
In my opinion sonic prime takes place after colors because that’s when orbot and cubot were invented. (I know a variant of orbot was in unleashed but I meant the REAL cubot that we know today).
I meant (the REAL orbot)
So basically the aftermath was terrible and the show shouldn't have been canon is what I've gotten out of it. The whole "show wipes itself out" thing is what ruins it for me.
The big question is does that mean that the other shatter spaces don't exist anymore? Because that Would be A big disappointment Tho
That’s what I’m thinking about
If you want to cover the time frame, I think Prime was before Colors. I don't recall seeing the miles electric device(correct/ignore me if wrong) throughout the show and that device started showing up around Colors. Just a bit of detail I thought to point out.
No one payed attention to the fact that Prime crushed Sonic's desperate friends.
I really enjoyed seeing advance 3 in the show, but it was weird having weirdly coloured genesis sprites next to gba spritework. Still really cool though!
Hurray for final episode of sonic prime season 1, 2 and 3.
Sonic: "At least my friends and world are restored."
I like to imagine that it takes place sometime before Sonic Lost World or sometime after, but before Sonic Forces.
Sonic continuing with his adventure is exactly what I thought
I think it would’ve been a way more satisfying ending if they hadn’t had the shadowy figure at the end- it just kind of gave everyone false hope that there were more episodes when they could’ve just had sonic reunite with his friends and be a happy ending
I think it would have been cool at the end of the final episode eggman is pissed off at shadow for stealing the prism but then he opens a portal by accident and silver steps through and eggman goes “who are you” and silver with the camera zoomed on his eyes goes “I’m here to stop sonic”
I actually thought that was a normal cliffhanger?
I mean most series do that, especially sonic lol
when i saw the ending i had thought there was another sonic from one of the s1 episodes explaining that sonic has not landed in a wrong timeline where it’s exactly the same but just another sonic from the same universe💀
We need more sonic animations like this
Cannon ≠ Timeline, something can be cannon, but in another world or reality or timeline, the Marvel Multiverse or DC multiverse are all cannon to eachother’s respective publishers, but not all in the same world.
Nice video
You should do (ranking all episodes of sonic prime from 1-23)
I think Eggman just launched another death egg because if you look at the shadow of the threat it’s kinda rounded and the blue lights give me massive death egg vibes and I think he didn’t know sonic was above the launch base
I just want more Sonic Boom to be honest. Sonic Boom Season 3 would be nice to bookend the series with its humor.
Easy placement.
Between Sonic Lost World and Forces. Basically imagine if we got Prime instead of BOOM.
It can’t be before Lost World because Lost World is pretty about Sonic being hasty and not listening to his friend. But in the end the lesson seemed to be geared more towards his perspective of Tails, or so we could say if Prime happens afterwards. Plus the rebels in New Yolk seems like it could foreshadow the revolution in Forces. It would also emphasize Sonic waiting for Tails’ advice at the beginning of Forces. But really it wasn’t just Tails who “failed” him. Shadow never made it to warm or assist Sonic after meeting Infinite. And I can see Shadow here being one that comes after Prime.
Also, Eggman uses an Egg Dragoon in Prime but it’s not seen as a big deal. So it’s likely after both Unleashed and Generations. It’s not in Lost World but it’s in Forces.
I think y’all were tripping when u thought it was a cliffhanger. I always thought it was just eggman blasting smth at them.
Had they make an 8th episode with short amount of time, that would have been a climax.
I have mixed feels on Sonic Prime. I like the concept and the show was overall pretty fun. Season 3 felt like they didn’t have a lot and just stretched one fight for way too long. I already felt a bit meh about how limited it was as a multiverses show. Not having Sonic and shadow split made less options for who could show up and the egg council did a similar thing for me. I would have liked to see more variants for variety and more of a shock factor. Sure stuff like evil pirate cream the rabbit would be a bit weird but there’s a lot they could’ve played around with. Season 3 had cool moments but I feel like it could have been better. (All of this is imo it’s okay if you disagree)
Just wish they showed what happened to the shatter verse characters for example
Is nine accepted back and has a new journey?
Did the new yoke variants get their old green hill back?
And so many more
Was I the only one who understood the ending from the beginning?
Nope, i did too
If Man of Action would work with Sega again, maybe it'll be a sequel series, not another season.
People are saying prime whips it selfs out but thats not true, right before the cliffhsnger you can see an energy wave from thr paradox prism, it safe to say that nothing was whiped outside modeen sonic universe. Time in sonic universe after being restored was reversed a bit and sonic& shadow memory were intact. On top of that the shatter spaces that were created by paradox prism out of sonic universe also still exisit.
Dude, SEGA literally stated it