Just got the set a few days ago. The audio quality using the internal 32 bit recording and external lav mics is fantastic and timecode makes syncing using multiple audio files from both transmitters and multiple video files a matter of seconds in Davinci Resolve. Really impressed.
One thing I really wish is that Rode would allow us to pair even more transmitters with the Receiver to have more than just two channels timecode synced.
Fantastic video. I have a question. I'm using a Rode VideoMic Pro NTG, which has a selectable microphone gain for its TRS output. If I'm plugging that microphone into the Wireless Pro, what should the VideoMic gain be set to when recording 32 Bit Float?
My question is will the lavalier distort even if you're using 32-bit float will the internal recording still be distorted from the mic? A lot of lavaliers can't handle loud noises
Amazing review as always! Love the lighting setup in your home there, you really pop from the background! I can't decide: the screw feature for TRS jack ... litterally every sound recordist I know preferred it be able to be pulled out instead of the talent breaking the jack! Senhieser G4 etc always broken jack's, Diety, also always broken. from cast who don't care or think about the sound guys kit 😅 Sorry for the rant, I just can't decide if it was a bad feature choice lol
Thank God for your dèerp understanding. But please guide me. Do they in these last generation also face interfearance from wi-fi signals from near by mobiles etc.?
I'm curious if the Reciever enables 32 bit. I just bought a set and have a 3.5mm to XLR splitter cable coming. I'm hoping i might be able to connect this into my Zoom F6 to really round out my semi professional sound kit.
appreciate the info/details here. this vid kinda made my brain reboot with it primarily having tinny echoy audio, was scared that's what these new RODEs sounded like 😅
I feel bad for people that still cannot use timecode tbh. It only takes like 1-2 seconds in Resolve to sync hundreds of video and audio files from both transmitters in Resolve.
Thanks for the great video! I just feel it's a little bit too positive. For example right now Resolve is the only software that can read TC from Audio, and you said that its possible to change most of the settings with the buttons on the reciever. Thats actually not true, you have to connect to a phone/computer for most of the settings. But otherwise great video! Thanks for that :)
When you turned around a few times audio cut out. Why is that? And how is this? Considered a pro technology if simply, turning around away from the receiver cuts the audio? I wonder if using this as a run and gun action scene what were considering there’s a lot of movement
if you are around 30 feet or loser then the audio won't cut out. If however you are past 40 feet and the transmitter is not in direct line of sight of the receiver then the signal will sometimes cut out. This is what happens with all radio signals. They all have a lower range when not in direct line of sight. Some of them send a stronger signal which means they will work further away when not in direct line of sight while others that send a weaker signal will cut out quicker.
Don't forget it also records audio to the unit itself as backup. So if you are doing a scene where people are turning around and it cuts out you could use the backup audio that went directly into the unit instead.
You can use a cheap adapter like this one bhpho.to/467PLiw as long as you are using a self powered XLR mic. With a mic like the Rode NTG 5 you would need to use an interface that can provide XLR power. This is one such device I used which works amzn.to/3sR73Cj
I'm confused Tom. I'm interested in using these to replace a pair of tentacle syncs for connecting to cameras and generating timecode. In the video you said plug the receiver into the camera... why did you say receiver rather than the transmitters? Like if I have two cameras with bnc timecode connectors, could I not plug in the 2 transmitters to generate timecode during a shoot?
From what I understand only the receiver outputs timecode via the 3.5mm jack. I will dive further into this system for my follow up video and see if it's possible to also use the transmitters.
As the transmitters don't have outputs (apart from USB-C), I don't see an easy way to use them instead of your Tentacle Sync E. You could use both systems in tandem, if you want to - feeding the receiver's output into one your Sync E devices.
The lav mics included in this kit are the RODE Lavalier II. They don't fit inside the invisilav as the capsules are wider. But you can still mount them under clothing so they're hidden using this --> bhpho.to/3EFdf2U
Great overview. I love your stuff. But RODE... WHY SO SHINY??? They've FINALLY put together a pro-level, versatile system with accessories included but they make it hyper-reflective... good grief. This seems like a major flaw if you're using the transmitter in your shot.
There's a million ways to mitigate the reflective finish, it's just seems like a glaring flaw on what seems to finally be a truly elegant solution. I've used the Hollyland Lark 150 since it's been out and have often considered buying the little Tascam unit that records in 32-bit float. This PRO unit seems to bring the best of all the similar units together. Personally I tape off all logos anyway, so yeah, black gaff tape to the rescue. Or maybe a nice origami bird make from cinefoil! 😂
The human body is largely water and the wifi signal wont pass through the human body well. As long as the transmitter is in direct line of sight of the receiver you have a chance of the signal getting through.
you know a company is sleeping on the job when they put a 32 bit float and timecode generator into a system, but forget to add synchronized start stop recording capabilities on the transmitter unit. Thats a no brainer Rode. What are you doing? Why are we suppose to record useless hours of audio when the camera isnt? helloo!! Anybody home?
JANUARY 2024 - - just to clarify - there are 100's of influencers out there reviewing their FREE ones sent by Rode - us PAYING CUSTOMERS - will need to WAIT until JANUARY 2024 to get one - all the reviews out there - and THAT is conveniently left out. RODE needs to be better with PAYING CUSTOMERS.
32-bit has nothing to do with setting audio levels. Sorry Tom, you're another TH-camr parroting marketing claims from Rode. I've done many videos on the subject. I'm happy to answer any question you have. Happy to look at any direct proof that it prevents clipping or in any way has better fidelity than 24-bit when recording analog sources. Does it hurt to record in 32-bit float. No. But you said it provided a benefit when recording--without providing evidence.
32-bit float can technically be clipped but it would be really hard to do. In most cases the microphones themselves would reach a loudness limit before. 32-bit just simply means more data or a wider range of sound spectrum can be captured. So 32 bit float recording can capture more of the quiet and loud sounds before the limit is reached. It is the same as having a wider dynamic range when it comes to video capture. But you are right that I perhaps could do a video explaining it and providing evidence. Thank you for a video idea!
32-bit float simply means there is more of a audio range being captured. Can you go past the limit of the 32-bit recording? Of course you can! In most case scenarios you are not supposed to adjust the audio levels when recording in 32bit. Just leave it in neutral setting that the manufacturer has set. This allows the 32-bit float recording to capture any normal sounds that human ears can hear. The average healthy human ear has a dynamic range from 0dB to 120 - 130 dB give or take depending on the person. From the faintest whispers to loud screaming. Of course when recording very loud sounds that human ears can't handle, (like very loud explosions for example) you will still need to adjust the gain setting lower. A gunshot is typically around 140 to 190 decibels. Ive done lots of tests recording gun shots and explosions and 32bit is also really useful when capturing those because the dynamic range of the recording is so much bigger. But it doesn't mean that you can just hit record and think you will always capture the full explosion sound. In some cases I had to bring the gain setting down to be able to capture those louder sounds. When you are recording most sounds that fall within the average human ear decibel range you are fine. Do more tests where you don't touch the gain setting on your recorder and simply record people talking, screaming, whispering, etc. Then see how much more superior 32 bit float recording is to say 16 bit. To put it in perspective, 16-bit audio is capable of recording sound with a dynamic range of up to 96.3 decibels. 24-bit audio recordings can capture a dynamic range of up to 144.5 dB. Meanwhile, 32-bit float audio can capture the absolutely ludicrous range of up to 1,528 decibels.
Just got the set a few days ago.
The audio quality using the internal 32 bit recording and external lav mics is fantastic and timecode makes syncing using multiple audio files from both transmitters and multiple video files a matter of seconds in Davinci Resolve. Really impressed.
One thing I really wish is that Rode would allow us to pair even more transmitters with the Receiver to have more than just two channels timecode synced.
I just bought a kit and used it yesterday. They are well worth the money. I'm now selling all my other audio devices like this.
I just sold my Rode Wireless GO II yesterday. Using the money to get this Pro version. 🎉
I think on the Pro Version II, my wish is so you can pair 4 transmitters to 1 receiver. A multi tracker recorder! 🔥
Great review , really looking at this system for an all around go to system in my studio.. Thank you for your in depth review.
Somebody knows if we can adjust gain separately?
Fantastic video. I have a question. I'm using a Rode VideoMic Pro NTG, which has a selectable microphone gain for its TRS output. If I'm plugging that microphone into the Wireless Pro, what should the VideoMic gain be set to when recording 32 Bit Float?
My question is will the lavalier distort even if you're using 32-bit float will the internal recording still be distorted from the mic? A lot of lavaliers can't handle loud noises
Good question. I will include a test for that in my future video about the Rode Wireless Pro
Amazing review as always! Love the lighting setup in your home there, you really pop from the background!
I can't decide: the screw feature for TRS jack ... litterally every sound recordist I know preferred it be able to be pulled out instead of the talent breaking the jack! Senhieser G4 etc always broken jack's, Diety, also always broken. from cast who don't care or think about the sound guys kit 😅
Sorry for the rant, I just can't decide if it was a bad feature choice lol
I know whatcha mean - nobody cares about others gear!
Don't worry. If you don't want to use the thread on the mic jack then you don't have to. The mic still plugs in without threading it in.
@@TomAntos omg yeh 🫣 hahaha silly me, very true 🤟😅
@@SustainableGal no worries. Thanks!
Thank God for your dèerp understanding.
But please guide me.
Do they in these last generation also face interfearance from wi-fi signals from near by mobiles etc.?
I haven't noticed any interference issues yet
Awesome. Maybe another quick video rigging (cables needed) this to something like an Ursa?
Thanks for the idea!
Great video, got the Wireless Pro last week.
I'm curious if the Reciever enables 32 bit. I just bought a set and have a 3.5mm to XLR splitter cable coming. I'm hoping i might be able to connect this into my Zoom F6 to really round out my semi professional sound kit.
32bit only in transmitter. The receiver can simply because of the limitation of how much data can be sent over the 2.4ghz signal.
Can i use 3 transmitters?
thanks
appreciate the info/details here. this vid kinda made my brain reboot with it primarily having tinny echoy audio, was scared that's what these new RODEs sounded like 😅
Nope sorry. The main audio in this video was shot with a small video mic mounted on a boom and the room has lots of echo so it didn't sound the best.
Hello bro you Can make a tutorial on the mixing vocal in DaVinci résolve please
Ok I will try
@@TomAntos ok fine
10:55 Only DaVinci Resolve can read audio-based timecode. Just so the consumers are aware.
I feel bad for people that still cannot use timecode tbh. It only takes like 1-2 seconds in Resolve to sync hundreds of video and audio files from both transmitters in Resolve.
Thanks for the great video! I just feel it's a little bit too positive. For example right now Resolve is the only software that can read TC from Audio, and you said that its possible to change most of the settings with the buttons on the reciever. Thats actually not true, you have to connect to a phone/computer for most of the settings. But otherwise great video! Thanks for that :)
When you turned around a few times audio cut out. Why is that? And how is this? Considered a pro technology if simply, turning around away from the receiver cuts the audio?
I wonder if using this as a run and gun action scene what were considering there’s a lot of movement
if you are around 30 feet or loser then the audio won't cut out. If however you are past 40 feet and the transmitter is not in direct line of sight of the receiver then the signal will sometimes cut out. This is what happens with all radio signals. They all have a lower range when not in direct line of sight. Some of them send a stronger signal which means they will work further away when not in direct line of sight while others that send a weaker signal will cut out quicker.
@@TomAntos interesting and good to know. Thanks Mate!
🔥
Don't forget it also records audio to the unit itself as backup. So if you are doing a scene where people are turning around and it cuts out you could use the backup audio that went directly into the unit instead.
Thank you for sharing
How do you connect the rode ntg 5 to the transmitter? And do you think that there will be a future update to jam the tc to the receiver as well?
You can use a cheap adapter like this one bhpho.to/467PLiw as long as you are using a self powered XLR mic. With a mic like the Rode NTG 5 you would need to use an interface that can provide XLR power. This is one such device I used which works amzn.to/3sR73Cj
I'm confused Tom. I'm interested in using these to replace a pair of tentacle syncs for connecting to cameras and generating timecode. In the video you said plug the receiver into the camera... why did you say receiver rather than the transmitters? Like if I have two cameras with bnc timecode connectors, could I not plug in the 2 transmitters to generate timecode during a shoot?
From what I understand only the receiver outputs timecode via the 3.5mm jack. I will dive further into this system for my follow up video and see if it's possible to also use the transmitters.
As the transmitters don't have outputs (apart from USB-C), I don't see an easy way to use them instead of your Tentacle Sync E.
You could use both systems in tandem, if you want to - feeding the receiver's output into one your Sync E devices.
Do these Lavs work with the invisilav? I haven't seen anyone talk about trying to hide these lavs.
The lav mics included in this kit are the RODE Lavalier II. They don't fit inside the invisilav as the capsules are wider. But you can still mount them under clothing so they're hidden using this --> bhpho.to/3EFdf2U
@@TomAntosoh awesome! Assuming you’ve used these? They work well?
What's the best adapter for a Ursa mini?
You can use any 3.5mm to XLR adapter since it doesn't need to transfer phantom power
Mics need to take notes from picomic the small clip on is the best design
I use LiveU on my phone through the app. I would love to use my Wireless RODE II and the iphone + LiveU
you can do that since it has the iPhone cable included
@@historyunedited7434 it doesn't work with the LiveU app. It still just uses the phones external mic and not the RODE.
It's designed to be used with iphones, android phones, laptops, cameras and audio recorders so you are in luck!
Would be nicer to do a range test in a heavily congested areas with lots of other interference
Sounds good. I will be working on a follow up video with more tests and use case scenarios. Let me know what other tests or things you'd like to see
Great overview. I love your stuff. But RODE... WHY SO SHINY??? They've FINALLY put together a pro-level, versatile system with accessories included but they make it hyper-reflective... good grief. This seems like a major flaw if you're using the transmitter in your shot.
You really think it's too shiny to be used on camera? Perhaps you could wrap it in gaffers tape?
@@TomAntos nah I think he means to put on someone’s clothing externally. Use a lav mic, that’s much more professional anyway so if that’s the issue…
There's a million ways to mitigate the reflective finish, it's just seems like a glaring flaw on what seems to finally be a truly elegant solution.
I've used the Hollyland Lark 150 since it's been out and have often considered buying the little Tascam unit that records in 32-bit float. This PRO unit seems to bring the best of all the similar units together.
Personally I tape off all logos anyway, so yeah, black gaff tape to the rescue. Or maybe a nice origami bird make from cinefoil! 😂
I ordered some of these. Anyone wanna buy my Zoom lav recorders? They’re of no use to me anymore.
SPARES BROTHER SPARES!!!
The human body is largely water and the wifi signal wont pass through the human body well. As long as the transmitter is in direct line of sight of the receiver you have a chance of the signal getting through.
I want you to make a movie for me. I'll DM you.
you know a company is sleeping on the job when they put a 32 bit float and timecode generator into a system, but forget to add synchronized start stop recording capabilities on the transmitter unit. Thats a no brainer Rode. What are you doing? Why are we suppose to record useless hours of audio when the camera isnt? helloo!! Anybody home?
JANUARY 2024 - - just to clarify - there are 100's of influencers out there reviewing their FREE ones sent by Rode - us PAYING CUSTOMERS - will need to WAIT until JANUARY 2024 to get one - all the reviews out there - and THAT is conveniently left out. RODE needs to be better with PAYING CUSTOMERS.
can get them now
32-bit has nothing to do with setting audio levels. Sorry Tom, you're another TH-camr parroting marketing claims from Rode. I've done many videos on the subject. I'm happy to answer any question you have. Happy to look at any direct proof that it prevents clipping or in any way has better fidelity than 24-bit when recording analog sources. Does it hurt to record in 32-bit float. No. But you said it provided a benefit when recording--without providing evidence.
32-bit float can technically be clipped but it would be really hard to do. In most cases the microphones themselves would reach a loudness limit before. 32-bit just simply means more data or a wider range of sound spectrum can be captured. So 32 bit float recording can capture more of the quiet and loud sounds before the limit is reached. It is the same as having a wider dynamic range when it comes to video capture. But you are right that I perhaps could do a video explaining it and providing evidence. Thank you for a video idea!
32-bit float simply means there is more of a audio range being captured. Can you go past the limit of the 32-bit recording? Of course you can! In most case scenarios you are not supposed to adjust the audio levels when recording in 32bit. Just leave it in neutral setting that the manufacturer has set. This allows the 32-bit float recording to capture any normal sounds that human ears can hear. The average healthy human ear has a dynamic range from 0dB to 120 - 130 dB give or take depending on the person. From the faintest whispers to loud screaming. Of course when recording very loud sounds that human ears can't handle, (like very loud explosions for example) you will still need to adjust the gain setting lower. A gunshot is typically around 140 to 190 decibels. Ive done lots of tests recording gun shots and explosions and 32bit is also really useful when capturing those because the dynamic range of the recording is so much bigger. But it doesn't mean that you can just hit record and think you will always capture the full explosion sound. In some cases I had to bring the gain setting down to be able to capture those louder sounds. When you are recording most sounds that fall within the average human ear decibel range you are fine. Do more tests where you don't touch the gain setting on your recorder and simply record people talking, screaming, whispering, etc. Then see how much more superior 32 bit float recording is to say 16 bit. To put it in perspective, 16-bit audio is capable of recording sound with a dynamic range of up to 96.3 decibels. 24-bit audio recordings can capture a dynamic range of up to 144.5 dB. Meanwhile, 32-bit float audio can capture the absolutely ludicrous range of up to 1,528 decibels.