I love high pivot norcos, I think many other bikes have mid pivot ie the session and comencial sorry for spelling errors. I won’t a range or a aurum . Ross and jean 🇬🇧. Thanks for video buddy.👌👌🇬🇧🤘🤘
thanks for the comment and sharing your love for high pivot Norcos! Yeah, I need to get on one on the trail to see how it compares to my forbidden I owned. Hopefully soon! Take care
Totally understand and if I had last year’s Sight or Optic, I don’t think I would upgrade (unless I just was bored and wanted to try something new). I think I’d have to ride both back to back with identical components and setup to really see the differences which I’m sure there are, but also not sure I’d necessarily would notice them. I do think however that if you’re in the market for a bike in this travel category, the Sight has some intriguing features that should make it a pretty dialed bike.
I’m really unsure on high pivots, I haven’t had a FS bike for about 15 years, I’m pretty set on adding either a sight A series or a Fluid A series to the fleet. What has stood out to you between the Sight & Fluid aside of the obvious difference in travel. And with the sight would you recommend the previous gen model if the rider is new to new generation FS bikes? For the ease of operation and what not, or would it be more ideal to “future proof” the bike and go with the high pivot
Thanks for the question, here's my opinion on high pivot and granted, I actually haven't ridden the new sign or optic with high pivot (other than in the parking lot). My forbidden Druid was super smooth and comfy and stable and planted over rough choppy roots and stuff. Very confidence inspiring. I would say I could tell the difference maybe but I'd have to test back to back a bike with same specs, etc to say oh yeah high pivot is better. High pivot design is heavier and a bit more complicated obviously than a horst link or similar suspension. Tough call. I'm still torn on if high pivot is worth it on shorter travel bikes due to the weight penalty with the design. I guess, that being said, you can get pretty sweet deals on the non high pivot design which will be fine for years to come. High pivot is cool but it isn't the future in my opinion for all full suspension bikes.
Can you believe that the last Norco I rode was my friend sasquatch in 1994... I'd want to lease or demo one to see what's up, to date I didn't like any high pivot bike I tried, we'll see ...
Oh wow! That was a long time ago! Around the time I started mountain biking. That's cool. Yeah, hopefully we can have some demos soon but not sure yet. I also want to try it out on the trails soon! Thanks for the comment
yep, it is a tough decision. Both very similar now with the new rift zone. Usually people at our shop have been going for the fluid due to the thru axle in the rear standard, 4 piston brakes, better tires, and standard dropper. Not everyone though wants a red or black bike so rift zone still a contender.
I'm interested in the bike, my only concern is the weight. I want a do it all bike, so I'm looking into all mountain bikes, but that 37 pounds is concerning.
Thanks for comment. I get it on weight but I think it also depends where you live. This bike comes with a chunkier wheelset and tires. The rear is a double down so pretty heavy. You can lighten this bike up if you want but sometimes less weight isn’t always what you want flying down the mountain in chunky terrain. However if your trails are flatter than some and you do more long distance pedaling than bombing down hills, I’d go for Fluid without high pivot. I usually advise to pick the bike for where you’ll ride the most.
@@BikingRoots I really appreciate the reply. The trails near me are know for their rocks. They call the local park the wheel destroyer haha. I just need a bike that I can pedal up If I need to, without too much struggle and descent with confidence over technical terrain.
@@zacharycharest5286 Nice, ok yeah I’m sure this bike pedals decently well up hill for a bike with this travel and high pivot. When I had my high pivot forbidden druid, I didn’t notice any downside pedaling up stuff, but oh was it smooth over rough stuff going down. It was a dream. I think the pros outweigh the cons, but your call! Good luck
Price...is...brutal. It's an alloy rig. And I'm gonna pay a astronomical amount for the letters on the downtube. That's what it boils down to. Norco, needs a frame version with Suntour, or RST, and reliable, yet simple 10 speed, and perhaps Alex rims. Bike companies only offer hardtails, as affordable for us passionate, yet low-income riders. Then again, majority of TH-cam commercial reviews, are only for the high five & six-figure income viewers.
Norco, just chooses to not play in that arena of full suspension bikes which I get. If you don’t have to, then it isn’t worth it to them. I do agree though that there is a need to have some good but not high end component full suspensions on the market for those that are beginners and want full squish. For years the Marin Rift Zone was the $1500-1600 range bike that had pretty good beginner spec and was a lot of fun. Diamondback, Motobecane, and Polygon kind of play or at least played in that arena. Some were ok, but I’ve worked on a lot of them and they don’t tend to age well. Lots of play in the linkeage, you soon have to upgrade fork and shock because they either blow out or they just don’t work well. By the time you upgrade those things, you are in rift zone territory. With the market the way it is right now, a lot of the nicer full suspension bikes are now in what used to be a nicer hardtail price point (one with 1x10 or 11 and an air fork). At our shop and channel we tend to cater more towards the beginner but also have some customers that are looking for the higher price point bikes so we try to have some and also film some.
Their prices are competitive with other brands. These aren't cheap mountain bikes, that's not what they are going for. If you want a cheaper Trail bike option from Norco you could always buy a fluid. It's also worth mentioning the Alloy frame set is really really affordable. That's the best bang for your buck. Buy it, build it up with those cheaper components you mentioned
@@CHINGLAW21 Thanks for the comment and yes I agree, I wish bikes were less expensive but if you look at what we get these days measured for inflation compared to when I first started riding in the 90's... you get a lot more for your money these days. Unless brands and dealers are dumping them for losses, to get a nice bike built in a variety of sizes with higher end components, it will cost a good amount for a lot of people. Like you said though, you could always build a frame up and try and get it to a certain price point if your budget doesn't allow. Take care!
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What are your thoughts on the new Sight? What color/build do you like the best?
Norco stepping it up!
Yes, they are!
I love high pivot norcos, I think many other bikes have mid pivot ie the session and comencial sorry for spelling errors. I won’t a range or a aurum . Ross and jean 🇬🇧. Thanks for video buddy.👌👌🇬🇧🤘🤘
thanks for the comment and sharing your love for high pivot Norcos! Yeah, I need to get on one on the trail to see how it compares to my forbidden I owned. Hopefully soon! Take care
Very good job norco I really like this bike
Glad you like it! Yeah, I think they did a good job. Want to ride it on the trails... hopefully soon
I’m unconvinced that this new idler version is ‘better’ than last years bike
Totally understand and if I had last year’s Sight or Optic, I don’t think I would upgrade (unless I just was bored and wanted to try something new). I think I’d have to ride both back to back with identical components and setup to really see the differences which I’m sure there are, but also not sure I’d necessarily would notice them. I do think however that if you’re in the market for a bike in this travel category, the Sight has some intriguing features that should make it a pretty dialed bike.
wish see more of this
I’m really unsure on high pivots, I haven’t had a FS bike for about 15 years, I’m pretty set on adding either a sight A series or a Fluid A series to the fleet.
What has stood out to you between the Sight & Fluid aside of the obvious difference in travel.
And with the sight would you recommend the previous gen model if the rider is new to new generation FS bikes? For the ease of operation and what not, or would it be more ideal to “future proof” the bike and go with the high pivot
Thanks for the question, here's my opinion on high pivot and granted, I actually haven't ridden the new sign or optic with high pivot (other than in the parking lot). My forbidden Druid was super smooth and comfy and stable and planted over rough choppy roots and stuff. Very confidence inspiring. I would say I could tell the difference maybe but I'd have to test back to back a bike with same specs, etc to say oh yeah high pivot is better. High pivot design is heavier and a bit more complicated obviously than a horst link or similar suspension. Tough call. I'm still torn on if high pivot is worth it on shorter travel bikes due to the weight penalty with the design. I guess, that being said, you can get pretty sweet deals on the non high pivot design which will be fine for years to come. High pivot is cool but it isn't the future in my opinion for all full suspension bikes.
Can you believe that the last Norco I rode was my friend sasquatch in 1994... I'd want to lease or demo one to see what's up, to date I didn't like any high pivot bike I tried, we'll see ...
Oh wow! That was a long time ago! Around the time I started mountain biking. That's cool. Yeah, hopefully we can have some demos soon but not sure yet. I also want to try it out on the trails soon! Thanks for the comment
My choice in conjunction was the Norco Fluid, tough decision between them and Marin Rift Zone.
yep, it is a tough decision. Both very similar now with the new rift zone. Usually people at our shop have been going for the fluid due to the thru axle in the rear standard, 4 piston brakes, better tires, and standard dropper. Not everyone though wants a red or black bike so rift zone still a contender.
I'm interested in the bike, my only concern is the weight. I want a do it all bike, so I'm looking into all mountain bikes, but that 37 pounds is concerning.
Thanks for comment. I get it on weight but I think it also depends where you live. This bike comes with a chunkier wheelset and tires. The rear is a double down so pretty heavy. You can lighten this bike up if you want but sometimes less weight isn’t always what you want flying down the mountain in chunky terrain. However if your trails are flatter than some and you do more long distance pedaling than bombing down hills, I’d go for Fluid without high pivot. I usually advise to pick the bike for where you’ll ride the most.
@@BikingRoots I really appreciate the reply. The trails near me are know for their rocks. They call the local park the wheel destroyer haha. I just need a bike that I can pedal up If I need to, without too much struggle and descent with confidence over technical terrain.
@@zacharycharest5286 Nice, ok yeah I’m sure this bike pedals decently well up hill for a bike with this travel and high pivot. When I had my high pivot forbidden druid, I didn’t notice any downside pedaling up stuff, but oh was it smooth over rough stuff going down. It was a dream. I think the pros outweigh the cons, but your call! Good luck
can you make a video to the norco sight a2 2023??pls
hmmm, if I could get my hands on one I would. Unfortunately I do not see them very often in the Houston area.
@@BikingRoots ok
High pivotty sounds better. Is Jared back???
Time to sell your Alpine and get in the high pivot game! j/k. Yes he is back for a little while
Price...is...brutal. It's an alloy rig. And I'm gonna pay a astronomical amount for the letters on the downtube. That's what it boils down to. Norco, needs a frame version with Suntour, or RST, and reliable, yet simple 10 speed, and perhaps Alex rims. Bike companies only offer hardtails, as affordable for us passionate, yet low-income riders. Then again, majority of TH-cam commercial reviews, are only for the high five & six-figure income viewers.
Norco, just chooses to not play in that arena of full suspension bikes which I get. If you don’t have to, then it isn’t worth it to them. I do agree though that there is a need to have some good but not high end component full suspensions on the market for those that are beginners and want full squish. For years the Marin Rift Zone was the $1500-1600 range bike that had pretty good beginner spec and was a lot of fun. Diamondback, Motobecane, and Polygon kind of play or at least played in that arena. Some were ok, but I’ve worked on a lot of them and they don’t tend to age well. Lots of play in the linkeage, you soon have to upgrade fork and shock because they either blow out or they just don’t work well. By the time you upgrade those things, you are in rift zone territory. With the market the way it is right now, a lot of the nicer full suspension bikes are now in what used to be a nicer hardtail price point (one with 1x10 or 11 and an air fork). At our shop and channel we tend to cater more towards the beginner but also have some customers that are looking for the higher price point bikes so we try to have some and also film some.
Their prices are competitive with other brands. These aren't cheap mountain bikes, that's not what they are going for. If you want a cheaper Trail bike option from Norco you could always buy a fluid. It's also worth mentioning the Alloy frame set is really really affordable. That's the best bang for your buck. Buy it, build it up with those cheaper components you mentioned
@@CHINGLAW21 Thanks for the comment and yes I agree, I wish bikes were less expensive but if you look at what we get these days measured for inflation compared to when I first started riding in the 90's... you get a lot more for your money these days. Unless brands and dealers are dumping them for losses, to get a nice bike built in a variety of sizes with higher end components, it will cost a good amount for a lot of people. Like you said though, you could always build a frame up and try and get it to a certain price point if your budget doesn't allow. Take care!