RIP COROLLA CROSS! 2023 Honda HR-V Review
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- 2023 Honda HRV review by The Straight Pipes. The Honda HR-V is putting down 158 horsepower and 138 lb-ft of torque from a 2L 4 cylinder. At $37,130 CAD, would you take it over the Toyota CHR, Toyota Corolla Cross, Mazda CX-30, Hyundai Kona, Subaru Crosstrek?
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You always complain about the cvt noise holding up on the rpm, and now that they manage to actually simulate gears you say you liked those cvts that hold on the rpm?!?!…..
We dont want them to fix the cvt. We want them to get rid of it
Hypocrisy! 😁
@@rileyhance318 this x100
@@rileyhance318 lol why? Honda CVTs actually don’t self destruct after 2000 miles. and they do their job
@@gavcom4060 what transmission self destructs after 2000 miles. I have a porsche PDK Dual Clutch with 200,000 miles and were doing just fine lol. CVTs aren't a matter of opinion, they are objectively terrible in every way other than fuel economy. And if fuel economy is what your worried about, just buy an EV or a Diesel.
I love my 23 Hrv, very nice car for the price. For those of you who have never drove one you should. All the silly lack of power comments just shows how many people form opinions without actually having even been in one. It has no problems keeping up with other traffic anywhere, anytime. But someone on the internet said it, so it must be true ;)
Overall, I like the HR-V but wish Honda would up the power. I don't think 158 hp is enough. This vehicle needs the 1.5T engine with 180 hp. Some might argue that this vehicle with 180 hp would encroach upon CR-V sales. The CR-V needs about 220 hp. I'm a lifelong Honda/Acura fan but my main gripe with them is that they are often too conservative with their power outputs. Honda, if you read this: We want more power! You are building vehicles with really good chassis that drive very well. Just need more power. That's my one complaint.
This replaces the CRV completely and the CRV is being upclassed to the accord platform.
It took TheTopher almost 13 seconds to do 0-60 mph in the 2023 HR-V. It's too slow.
@@Ulieq uhh no
I totally agree, Hondas are great cars! But their lack of power really puts me off in cases like with this HR-V 🤔 Like I wouldn't even think of choosing the Mazda CX-30 with the 2.5 L Engine or even more with that available Turbo 🌚❤️
Car is way too big and heavy. Should have brought over the real one from Asia which is lighter and have a 1.5t option. It has rear AC vents also. Game over Honda!
Just got the red one sport, it feels like driving a sedan combined with an suv and weight of a truck with seats about to launch to space. I do recommend getting one! beautiful…..
I bought one. It's a fantastic car with a couple of caveats - the CVT is super duper annoying and it needs like 25% more power.
Snow mode and make it scream
@@TheStraightPipes I am cryingggggggggg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Aint nothing that a full exhaust kit wont fix 😎. Couple it with a true cold air intake and maybe a tune. Guaranteed atleast 20hp
what's annoying about CVT? can you elaborate more?
@@rmkolesnik Any time you accelerate it sounds like it's straining really hard, and the power delivery is just flat.
One of these in all white drove past me this morning while I was getting gas, very sharp looking car. It's a shame how slow it is.
Not built to be fast.... it's a suv lol, want fast? Get a sports car or sedan/coupe
It's too slow. Takes 13 seconds to do 0-60 mph.
Dude this car is mostly for city driving. It's a compact crossover... Not a high end sports performance car.
@@diamondknight4815 He's not talking about fast. He's talking about "not slow." A persistent complaint among those who own it, like me.
We get a much better 184hp hybrid in the UK...7.8sec 0-62mph so not rapid but its certainly quick enough. Also we have a smaller HR-V over here so honda have called it the ZR-V in Europe. We have the top of range and it's lovely. Massive panoramic roof and banging 12 speaker Bose are class.
Love your guys reviews! With the back and forth talking I get all the information I feel car buyers really want. Can't wait till honda releases the 23 CRV for a straight forward honest review. Keep up the great work guys. Always a pleasure to watch!
23 CRV review later this month!
You guys ROCK!! I love your content. The most honest reviews for cars while having fun watching it, PRICELESS!!
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If this gets 100 replies I’ll change the title to “RIP COROLLA CROSS!!”
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Why your comment a day old?
This seems like a really nice new model, but honestly as an owner of a 2021 HR-V, it misses some of the key selling points that made me buy mine in the first place. The Magic Seats are something I use almost every day, the cargo capacity is freakishly large for such a small vehicle - the new one is much bigger outside while being smaller inside - it’s more agile and easier to park, and the fuel economy is actually rated higher in the old model too. Don’t get me wrong, it needed a redesign and some more refinement, but it’s a shame they sucked some of the character out of the model.
Actually the new HR-V has more room than the old one. I have a '16 HR-V and I'm totally jealous of the space in the new one.
RIP Magic Seats - that came in handy so many times
I actually considered getting one until I saw that the magic seat was gone and that there are no vents or USB ports in the back. :-/ Looks decent though
The last one had better mpg but less power
Completely agree. The exterior size of the outgoing model, relative to the interior space, was it's biggest selling point. The new one is nearly a foot longer. Makes no sense.
The HRV is ridiculously slow and inefficient in terms of mpg. Wait for the hybrid. When it's slow enough to make merging and passing on the highway difficult it's not worth it. Get the normal CRV or get a Civic which all are faster and actually usable.
I agree but for some reason people just seem to be obsessed with CUV/SUV. Toyota and Honda will continue to build these little crap boxes because they sell tons
We have 2 mark10 civic hatchbacks here in UK, one auto and one 6 speed manual and both are perfect cars and look nice, nice & low sporty sitting position to the ground as well. Civic is the best value and offers so much safety features and gadgets as standard!
Could always slap a k series or something into it 😂
Agreed
CVT’s are horrible. They can claim better efficiency, but when so much is being put into electric/hybrid - CVT seems like a step backwards. It feels 🤢 and makes driving suck.
This HRV sold me on Honda and I just picked up a 2024 EX-L. I just drove in 5” of snow and it handled conditions perfectly. The interior is incredible and a great new design. I’ve owned many Toyota and Lexus but this is by far the best interior. Maybe it’s because my other car is a Jeep Wrangler but I don’t have any issue with the engine power. A hybrid model in the future would steal the show from CRV so maybe Honda is holding out on that. My EXL fully loaded with leather, sunroof, all safety was priced at $29.5k before all the tax/doc. In this new market, that’s a great value.
That launch 😂 But that’s me in my little Honda Civic trying to merge onto the highway
I have a Honda hrv from 1999 still going strong
A guy here in jamaica has a 2016 HRV with a mugen kit and the accord 2.0T motor with a 7speed dct. It absolutely hauls!!
Best in class, until you realize how much this costs. Here in Canada, it's basically priced the same as the outgoing CR-V & Rav4.
Not worth the money....
The sport trim is being advertised at 40k at local Honda dealerships around Calgary. Dealer mark up of roughly 6-7k
@@qp7691 the top trim doesn't even have rear cup holder for passengers and also no a/C vents too
Can't wait to see these clogging up the left lane with their highbeams on
or driving at night but relying on DRL's and no rear marker lights.
@@TheBreakfastLover those are Toyotas
@@TheBreakfastLover Yep, second choice. Honda owners are notorious for either or frankly
You must live in Florida
@@MrWelfarehater never in my life would I want to live in that hellish swamp
I heard it’s slow at passing speed on the interstate. It reminds me of the Ford Escape. I like the redesign except for the grill. Would rather get a civic hatchback or CRV but skip the HRV.
Nothing is more fun than watching car guys drive a slow car fast 🤣
an HR-V Type R with AWD would be the perfect winter car.
They need a version that can actually get out of its own way
That would make me cry 😭 tears of joy we should start a petition
Then fuel consumption inevitably increases. And that's called a 2012-13 Infiniti EX (35/37). Rear-biased AWD 325+ HP wagon, no DI and no gallery gasket issue to deal with. Bulletproof.
@@jacquesc3166 the typical Type R buyer isn't too concerned about fuel economy
@@TheBreakfastLover Company execs are, though. Smaller total footprint than say 2000-2018 car lineups. Back then Honda could have just dropped a 3.5 & SH-AWD into this new, bigger HR-V and called it a Type R. Can't do that today. The 2.0T would be more expensive than an old 3.5, and Honda isn't trying to make a Japanese GLA45 anyway.
The big problem with the Civic hatch in Canada is for 2024 the LX with the 2.0l normally aspirated engine is gone. That was the only one I would buy because it didn't have a sunroof (so I can fit in it comfortably) and the 1.5 turbo is still a problem for long term ownership because they have not resolved the oil dilution with gas. I just asked a Honda technician and they said avoid the 1.5 turbo.
I test drove the “sport” version..Loved everything about it, but the powertrain was a deal breaker..Its massively underpowered…Hopefully honda addresses it in the future.
this is a fwd bias economy car.. why are you looking for power in an economy car?? LMAOO
@@DaEverything1 i own a crosstrek so I’m familiar with underpowered econoboxes, but the thing makes the crosstrek seem peppy from a dig, the lack of acceleration in this is eye opening. It takes quite a bit of effort to attain freeway speeds when merging. Test drive one and see for yourself, its makes a rav4 seem like a rocketship. 😂
I get why its under powered at that price range, if you wanted faster you might as well look into the CRV. This is Honda's entry level SUV, so of course its going to be underpowered. You know putting the 1.5 liter turbo engine from the Civic would have been too good to be true. Haha!
@@seraphdiscgolf the “sport” trim is just under $30k, I understand the base model coming with the weak motor but the sport deserves something more. My lifted crosstrek with similar power through a cvt feels noticeably quicker off the line so I suspect most of the issues are with the ecm/cvt programming. Besides the powertrain, it is a fantastic vehicle and if you find the power adequate after a test drive then buy one!
@@reactiondc2 that is my biggest pet peeve, when they make a “sport” trim & it makes the same HP as other models… at least tune it to get an extra 10-15 HP out of it 😂
Enthusiasts: give us an AWD civic!
Honda: here’s another crossover but this one *looks* like a civic :)
Only Hyundia/KIA seem to care about the enthusiasts. Honda has loss its mojo just like Subaru. All they care about is SUV/CUV
@@v60polestar88 they literally previewed the new Type R a few days ago
Is it full time AwD or in specific situation only the car will be AWD
Subaru already has an AWD Civic and it's called a "WRX" :)
Another great review, love the new Civic-ness of the interior too.
Still can't believe that was actually you on Sunday, Yuri! Running into you at the "beach" (lol if we can call that spot such a thing) in Cwood while playing tennis was a trip! And I swear we weren't trying to give you poison ivy on purpose haha! ;) You're a good sport - thanks for taking a moment to chat and talk shop. I really love all the car review videos you guys do. Cheers! - Jem
P.S. Sorry to hear about your Civic Hatch delivery delay issues... hope you and your family are enjoying the new Mazda (CX-5 did you say?)
shoutout to the dude walking backwards @11:25
love your videos, hello from Costa Rica
I've been doing this for 10 years, where I shift my CVT Honda Accord from D to S on the gear selector at 4,000 RPM while driving. The car pins the RPM at around 6000 RPM and the cars launches forward pretty fast. I'm sure it still works on these newer honda cvts. Would really want to see you guys experience it and share what you think about it.
Works on the new Civic and the 10th gen Civic as well, the car accelerates faster as soon as i put it in S and i also do it at 4000rpm, launching in D and then shifting it to S at 4000rpm is the method to get the fastest 0-100km/h time in a Civic 1.5 Turbo. But when i am rolling downshifting with the paddle shifter is even better, it gives even more of a slingshot effect. But the Civic doesn't stay pinned, it does simulated shifts which is better as staying pinned gets annoying after a while and as it is turbo charged so it doesn't have to stay pinned to get the best performance.
@@talhafifapro6951 That's cool! Glad Honda kept that "feature". It makes the cars a bit more enjoyable to drive.
@blitz No it doesn't, my friend does the same and his 10th gen Civic is 230,000km driven and the cvt is as good as new and Honda's engines are bullet proof, engine is also in perfect condition even after 230,000 kilometres. 10th and 11th gen Civic's have a very durable cvt transmission. The simulated shifts also help as it doesn't stay pinned at 6500rpm, it keeps on shifting like a regular automatic, it has 7 simulated gears and that helps because it doesn't stress the engine much.
With the accelerator pegged, the engine reminded me of the Simpsons Terminator episode. Maude: “Go faster Ned!’” Ned: “I CAN’T IT’S A GEOOOOO!”
Classic
Manual in this would’ve been lovely
They do offer a manual in the HRV, but only in Europe cuz most Europeans drive manuals
The euro version is sooo better looking, don’t know why they chose to split them apart like this
The front end of the Euro Hrv looks like a Chevy🤣 but the rear end looks nicer 👌
And they even offer the HRV with a manual too, which we Americans and Canadians don't get 😩😩
Looks surprisingly good. Big Audi vibes
Next to the Grand Tour, jeremy may n hamster are these guys . Really good
I’d swap this to a manual & turbo it because it loooks great esp a sleeper
Yeah but would you really tho? Haha
@@TheStraightPipes I’ll let you guys review after it’s done & drive it how about that
Original HR-V might have slightly missed the mark, but it was secretly a great, versitile car. In ten years, with the power of hindsight, we'll be wishing we could go back and buy new.
I wouldn't. The previous gen HR-V was one of the ugliest cars I think Honda has produced in ten years.
Crossover AWD Civic was originally what the CR-V was.
I appreciate you reviewing normal people cars
I laughed really hard during the extended “subscribe for more CVT launches” break
Was it enough time to subscribe?
Why not an Si variant of the HRV? AWD, manual, turbo 1.5L, awesomeness
Needs a plug-in hybrid with a powerful electric motor.
And a turbocharger for the engine.
So there are two hrv s a EU version n a USA version?
LOL and that American one looks very ungly
Yeah this North American HRV is sold as ZRV internationally
Always love the intro tunes - groovy af!
5:50 I've never seen two car dudes having this much fun in a honda SUV 😂. I've gotta get this car once i start earning lol
That thing is so slow that I dozed off and 8 hours later when I woke up... you guys were just hitting 60!🤣😅😂😆 I love Hondas and I'm driving a Honda Accord right now!
I test drove one yesterday. It actually wasn’t that slow. Lost some oomph at highway speeds, but other than that felt peppy.
But the one I drove was front wheel drive and they’re driving an AWD, which might make a difference.
Can you guys get your hands on the new Mitsubishi Outlander?
Try to review a s 2000 that would be amazing just try to get ur hands on one pls
I've decided to stop calling these things crossover, CUV, SUV, anything. They are cars or wagons, and that is what I'm going to call them.
I test drove this, but a front wheel drive version. At low speeds it was actually pretty peppy. The engine only felt a bit weak at highway speeds, but it was still adequate.
Handling, noise, comfort, were all very good. Buttons and functions were also fine, except I couldn’t figure out how to tell the tire pressure. Maybe it doesn’t have that?
Interior space is very good, for both front and rear seats, except that Honda lowered the rear seats a bit.
This is NOT a sub-compact SUV. It’s the size of compact SUVs like the Mazda CX-5 or the previous generation Hyundai Tucson / Kia Sportage. The only category where the HRV definitely loses to compact SUVs is in rear cargo space. If you need to carry a lot of stuff, you’d be happier with a CRV, RAV4, Tucson/Sportage, Forester, or Rogue.
Being front wheel drive not much drive-train lost, wait till u drive the AWD, with driveshaft and rear diff, it’ll probably put down 109HP to the wheels 😆
Love my 2021 hrv sport but this new one is kind of lacking character. Originally liked the concept sketches but when it came out it looked a little odd. Also miss the hidden door handle that is on my current hrv, it made it stand out from all the other vehicles unlike this new design. My biggest complaint about the new design though is that it’s bigger than the previous version. The old one was a great size and was nice and nimble to drive.
Yes, highly disappointed in the new exterior look...I also mourn the loss of the hidden rear door handle and the magic rear seats. I am moving on to the Mazda CX-30 since cargo or backseat room are not important for me, but styling is.
I continue to disagree with your opinions on aesthetics of vehicles but I sill watch these videos for some reason. Good vids.
I’ve seen it in person and it gives me baby urus vibes
Does the rear seat leg room feel a lot more spacious than the civic hatch? Concerned about car seat fitting with someone in front seat.
that version for Japan market (or Vietnamese and some other countries) looks much much more cleaner!
This is really a Civic station wagon. It’s one of the plainest looking vehicles. And I like it. Should have bought a Civic Wagon in 1991 but bought a Corolla Wagon. Will make the better choice this time.
It needs more power. The turbo 1.5 would be completely appropriate here.
if they bring out a sport touring or touring yes
you don't need that in daily drivability I guess
Or at least a real transmission with steep gears. I’m sure that little 4 will pull if it can hit redline immediately.
I could be wrong but isn’t the HRV and the Fit related. The CRV and the Civic are the two twins. Then the Accord and the Pilot are the two larger twins.
why can't Honda offer light grey interior for Canada like they do in USA?????
Don't like the fan high, adjust the temperature. 🤷🏼♂️
The high fan is only an issue when the car is first started-when it's 120°F / 50°C+ inside-so adjusting the temperature is of limited help.
@@NOXStellans not in my experience
@@gahangore111 Then for your situation, your solution is the logical one.
I think Honda is missing the best of HR-V redesign in the other markets: the 1.5L turbo motor that delivers 20 more HP. The redesigned 2022 HR-V of European, Asian and South American market still based in the Fit platform, but more fun than dull underpowered 2023 American market new model. With 1.5 turbo motor from Civic would be better competitor to VW Taos and closer to Mazda CX 30 turbo.
American hr-v looks vastly different to international hr-v
Yes, this is the ZR-V rebadged as HR-V for North America.
@@benoit.b9337 oh ok thanks for the clarification
The new HR-V has a pretty nice design, but it’s begging for more power and a hybrid option.
Geez, the HR-V looks so much nicer than what we have in Europe and far more practical. We still have the shitty 320 litre cargo capacity in the back which is less than my Kona electric of 332 :/
The visor slider got me...it was like they did magic. This car is my jam!! : )
Honda HR-V's made entirely in MEXICO; NO THNX!!!!!
This looks very good, and they have very good color choices.
Great review as always. You guys are awesome.
The new Hrv looks completely different and much much better in the European and Australian market
Seat comfort and spacious knee room, Hrv or mazda 5 ?
you raved so much about the int and did not mention its missing a rear armrest or vents or cupholders or usb ports for nearly 40000 out the door
There's a ghost walking backwards 😳 11:25
Multiple times
They had a picture of a Ford Escape in the design room when they were drawing this thing up
Still hatchback on stilts? 1:30..
Ok, one of you orders a coffee with 2 almond milk at Tim's? Soul brother!
I bought this for my girlfriend she loves it.. she does very little highway driving so this I a very reliable vehicle for her...
Fellas, it's a Honda. Of course it handles well. 😉👌
Decided to not go with the HRV this time, or Honda. My last one was recalled three times. Was under powered. Noisy, etc. My CRV also recalled. Honda should name the new HRV the "Recall". Instead, I tried a Mazda for the first time. Very pleased.
with this being the "crossover civic" I wonder what a type r version would be like.
Like an out of shape middle aged man with a tattoo of a rancid lamb chop on his face but with go faster stripes.
Honda have some awful designs, especially post mid 2000s, with some exceptions like the CR-Z, the 4TH gen FK2 Civic Type-R & the technically disappointing but aesthetically lovely Honda E
@@10aDowningStreet nice, so me basically.
Seriously?? Where's the Civic's 180hp turbo charged 4-cylinder option!?
As far as the outside styling, especially that front grill; if you slapped KIA badges on it, no one would take a 2nd look and say it's a Honda.
FIESTA!!!??
Other than that from this Honda guy, a great refreshing review!
You mentioned looking at the Civic Hatch and it being better value than the 2023 HR-V. As a viewer, I was not sure why you make that conclusion--is it better price for the features? Better engine? What makes it a better value overall and why would you choose the hatch over the HR-V? Thank you!
do they have the magic seats like last years ???
No
The rear reminds me of the tsx wagon and it's my favorite part
I think thats what Tedward has. He loves it
I drive sedan. We own a 22 CRV and I've been looking at getting an HRV for myself
That new HR-V be U-G-L-Y at least the front end anyway. I like the interior
Agree. Especially ugly is the front black bull horn looking thing at the two bottom corners.
Sunroof on the base model. Well, it's official: Auto manufacturers hate tall people
The lx doesn’t have a roof
Personally to me though, I wouldn’t care any less if HRV has a CVT. cos if I am buying it, it’s basically for hauling family point A to B with comfort and economy. For that purpose, I think CVT is great!
I’d only have a problem if they put CVT in a car and call it a sportwagon or ruin a legendary name
The simple facts: Corolla Cross is much faster 0 - 60 per Motortrend 9.3 vs 11.X second for the 2023 HRV vs the 2022 HRV 9.X second 0-60. I haven't seen another 11 second car in recent memory.
I Owner the 2020 Honda HRV and I love it
Looks like a Walmart version urus from the front
Can someone explain what CVT launch they were talking about what's happening ? Do you not feel the shifts as much by holding higher rpm when launching ?
⚡With 158 horsepower and 138 lb-ft of torque and a 0-100 kph acc time of ONLY 12 seconds with up to 4K markup, it is a truely freeway lightning⚡, much like the ES 200⚡! The asshole-like fake rear vents gives it extra beauty inside. What a unique marmot made!
I appreciate the size of HRV now, but I think smaller crossover is better like CX-3 or kona has in terms of handling.
Saw this car last weekend in nardo grey or whatever Honda calls it themselves, it looks very modern almost like an EV.
Where did you find the instrumental of "Shine On"?? I love it.
….respectfully, I am suspicious. I do not think you are Yuri nor Jakob.
It’s surprisingly good
Whoa 😯 you changed the color on the thumbnail
In an alternate universe, they named this the civic wagovan and it sold like hot cakes. Idk about this universe though.
Is new car smell/offgassing overwhelming in this car?
I have a 2014 Honda Civic sedan and a 2018 Subaru crosstrek. Is this vehicle supposed to be a competitor with the Subaru crosstrek ?
It looks awesome in black! Though where's the turbo? Other countries got turbo.
Don’t want turbo but 2.5 liter 210 hp 210 torque 37 mpg