Bias Ply or Radial tires for 1949 Chevy 5 window 3100 Truck
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- The 1949 Chevrolet 3100 5 window that we found in a storage shed after 30 years needs New Tires. Should we go with Bias ply tires or a nice new Radial tire?
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I got a pretty good deal on those tires at under $120 Mounted and Balanced. *Coker Tires* are almost $200 ---> amzn.to/347sDAJ
The Bias may not be superior technology but on those old vehicles they just look so good. Good choice.
I wonder is it possible to achieve the same look with radials
@@shadowwsk3507 there are "bias-look" radials
@@shadowwsk3507 senjougahara
I’m glad you’re keeping the truck as original as possible, it’s so cool! I loved the tire guy, he seems to really know his stuff.
Thanks Cynthia.
I was fascinated by Dennis. I would eagerly listen to an hour long documentary on tires if he narrated. My knowledge of tires is basically that they are round, and that they are black.
He is very knowledgeable on tires and tractors. One thing I have learned, it pays to listen to older generations story's and the knowledge they have. I'll tell Dennis you were impressed, next time I see him. Thanks for watching.
Farm Alarm Thank you.
The definition of a tire when i was a teenager was "Its black and round and it rolls on the ground." If it held air we put it on the car.
Bias plys make it easier to turn without power steering
Sick truck
Thanks!
My dad grew up in MO on a farm. My grandpa had an old 1959 Chevrolet Apache back in the mid 1970's! He used to let me drive it in the fields and I thought that was the greatest thing in the world. Both he and the truck are now gone, but the family farm and the memories remain. There is nothing like growing up on a farm or being exposed to one at least. Midwestern farm people are just good solid people and they are a special breed. God bless you for raising your boys the way you are. It makes me feel good to know that families like yours still exist.
Thanks for sharing those memories. Heavenly Father bless you too sir.
When I convinced my dad to put radials on our old '64 Ford F-100, it was the best change we ever made to the vehicle! It felt so much safer on the interstate after that...no more wallowing at speed and you could hold the wheel in the same position and the truck stayed there. The truck was still a working truck back then, too...late 1980's
I always go bias ply on my classics. If you think about it, we don’t drive them as much to really make a difference. I like to know feel the car how it originally drove with bias ply, and the look, there’s no comparison.
When I get a classic I'll daily it. None of that garage queen stuff
People always say find a mechanic you ‘trust’, a good tire shop you trust is just as important. Mine is a chain, les schwab on Dana in Redding,CA and a similar les schwab in north bend, WA. I usually had something out of the ordinary (forklift or tractor or 4x4), which meant owner-manager. When it came to daily driver stuff, the normal up-sell never happened since once they saw me, they would just call ‘joe’ (owner/manager). I would get my place in the queue, come back the 20-40 minutes later with a box of donuts from a local market, grab one for me, hand the rest over the counter. Another customer saw this and said “that’s why he gets special treatment!”, I replied “nope, I’m not a dick, that’s why I get respectful treatment” (‘joe’ spit his coffee). A $5 dozen donuts goes a long ways
I’m here in Missouri as well, and I still remember when we started getting radial tires I thought that they were so cool, but it seemed so strange not having to put on the mud and snow tires come fall. With the bias ply tires it was a given that if we wanted to drive in the winters we always had to switch the tires on the back of the car as well the trucks. Plus we always had tires chains handy, and now you hardly ever see those around here. Thanks for the great videos, and keeping the truck stock including the tires!
You're livin my dream in that 5 window, made even sweeter by its history and your love and respect for the owners son. God gave you a sweetheart and your appreciation makes you rightest of owners.
You definitely got your money's worth on the tires and bonus knowledge from a great man and friend!
I really enjoyed seeing this video.
I've never watched your videos before but I watch several farm and classic automotive channels and was looking at some old school bias ply tire videos when I came across this one.
Seeing the interaction with the older gentleman at the tire shop really did me some good. He reminded me a lot of my grandfather who passed away just over a year ago. I miss him greatly!
We call that rutt finding, where the tires try to follow other tracks in the road. Bias tires are always gonna do it. But hey I love it. Shows me how the generations before had to drive.
I have a 52 chevy 6400 I'm working on. It has the gmc 270 engine. I just got it running. Still fixing on the breaks but a fun project.
The old truck rides pretty nice on the new tires. It has enabled me to go 55 mph. Although 45 mph is what I usually drive 👍😀
When I switched from bias to radial on my '57 3100, the ride was much more smooth and I also noticed that it had more give side to side. It took a little bit to adjust but it was a good switch for me.
@@jamesleathers5488 I'd do the same thing. After all, if performance is all I cared for, i'd drive a modern Ford Maverick. I wanna get the old feel
My dad was a sign painter, most of his life. I remember hundreds of trucks that he painted the owner's name and address and empty weight on. He charged $15.00 per side and the state only required the driver's side, but most truck owners wanted both sides lettered and for $5.00 more each side would be "shaded". Dark green truck with white letters and red shading was considered "hot stuff" in the 50's.
Gotta love the old timer knowledge!
You sure have a nice truck, and I really like the way you are treating it.
Thanks Larry
Thank You for Your Video. Like your comments in this video.
Entertaining. Informative. Believable.
It looks so good! Y'all did an awesome job. Looking forward to seeing that ride with Donny. 💗
Thanks so much!
Your video is great and I totally agree, those bias ply look perfect on the truck. I've been going back and forth on the same question for my 1959 Willys wagon. This video tipped the scale, I'm going for the 7.00x15 bias ply M/S that would have come on the wagon. The old wheels are powder coated and ready to go, order goes in today. Thanks
Great series. Henry (the truck) is looking good. I bet you do get some looks driving him around...
Lol thanks Dwayne. The old 49 gets a lot of looks. Its pretty weird actually lol. I look hard at cool vehicles going down the road, but it never dawned upon me that the majority of people are doing the same thing. *So there are 3 things One must know when driving a Rare vehicle:*
1. Everybody is looking at your vehicle when you drive it.
2. Everybody wants to know if it is For Sale.
3. Just Get use to it lol.
Nice! And slick production.
I'm old enough to remember bias ply tires, laying down rubber on pavemint in suburbia in the sixties being much younger than 16, driving a good vehicle like yours.
Thanks Bill. Good memories
Very interesting! I enjoyed the story at the end!.
Thanks Steph
Cool looking Chevy
I’m not a Chevy guy but I respect all cars lol it does need some restoration tho I can’t stand rust
Good choice Tracy; bias, gotta stay with original equipment. My 1951 GMC p/u has the split rims which I welded together.
Oh got them 6 ply s on our 91 GMC got a wide track groove for heavy rain we run p235r15 Take care Rev
Love the tire guy in the video and at the end!
Interesting video. Not enough people respect the wisdom that comes with age
wow i didnt know all this about tires i thought for sure a tire made the year of the truck was the way to go now im glad you talked to the pro and got the right ones for you hugsssssss from Ontario Canada
Thanks Tammy. Hope you're well.
Great history on tires.
Rob
Indeed. Thanks Rob
I was a tire mounter when radials were replacing bias ply tires. The bias plys were easier to mount. Also we used a bubble balancer.
Que linda camioneta...!
Radial. I know you want to be period correct, but cars want to be driven and that makes them bound to be on the road with other people. We have to be responsible and considerate to ourselves and others on the road, so we can enjoy these cars longer. You never know what might happen, but for something so visually insignificant, we should make the responsible decision. Bias tyres had only one advantage - load capacity; but with modern radial tyres, even that isn't a good enough reason to purchase them.
Bias plies were used forever. They're fine on the road.
@@rexjolles That's like saying leaded fuel was fine. They work as tyres, just really poorly.
@@ViperDent leaded fuel was fine.
@@rexjolles For cars, not people
@@ViperDent what u mean i've been drinking it for 900 years and i'm alright
Thanks for your video. I have a '30 pickup and want to get new tires. I think I'll spend the extra amount and get the radials.
Esto es lo mejor para la seguridad de todos, felicidades !
Vintage..love it!
love the truck and that tire shop guy. I hope your video of cleaning the paint, and the what have you, is a long video.
Thanks and thanks for the suggestion!
Definitely can understand the hard choice. Positives and negatives on both sides, at the end of the day....do what works and fits for you. And btw I would like to sit down and have a few cups of coffee with your tire dude there and receive a lesson in rubber. Always looking to glean from those who have first hand industry knowledge of where we are and how we got here. Good video as usual.
Thanks Luke. Dennis definitely knows a lot about tires, and tractors too.
Onmy 1969 Dodge D200 pickup which ran bias ply tires, when I had to go with raids, the truck was much on the road. Good points! Thanks
I have same truck,told not to run radial tires...
I put some Excelsior radials on my 53 and really like them. They are narrow and look pretty much stock but the ride is fantastic. A little spendy but well worth it to me. Great video sets you are doing.
I'll look into those tires. And thanks for the feedback!
Now the truck is ready for future videos of you and the family goin’ fishin’, campin’, towin’ ur little tractors, huntin’, et cetera...
That shop owner was awesome
With manual steering, the bias ply is probably a better choice. Some very good stuff in this video. That these young guys today need to know. Good video sir.
Thanks!
hello, I already owned a truck like your in the late 70s, It was a 1953, not a big difference in the model, I think the only difference it was white. I have already changed the tires on this truck and I chose bias with inner tube, by heart I believe that the size of the tire 6.00X16 of Canadian tire, I live in Quebec. Good luck with your truck, it reminds me of good memories ........
Good to know
If it was for shows that is one thing but if I were going to drive it a lot I would have went radial but what matters is that you are happy, love the truck by the way
Well when it was new it would've been driven all the time with bias plies so it'll be fine
I put bias plies on my ‘68 K20. Almost done with the restoration too...
My '55 Ford F-100 came with bias ply Coker's and I didn't care for the way they seemed to want to roll under while cornering. I went with radials and solved that problem only to have the steering at low or no speed become considerably more difficult. I later found that the Ford owners manual recommended 44 psi and as the radials are rated up to this pressure I thought I'd try that as well. The truck does corner much better and the ride doesn't seem to be worse until you go over gravel roads. Steering at slow or no speeds is still bad. I prefer the traction and safety and long life options myself. I like what you're doing otherwise. God bless you.
I had NOS bias ply tires on my 73 F100. They were great around town. They only lasted about 3 years before they started to crack up real bad. :(
Nice truck, nice choice. For me, my choice is STA's 7.00-15 great tire great price, and made in USA.
To bad yu dont live close to Alton I'll yu drive down to Cheepies Tire Shop n get 6 ply tires for around 80 per tire mounted balanced new stems for that price n the best people to deal with there located on Briadway south before East Alton nice lil gem Best to yu n yours Rev
Bias ply tires are known as Cross ply tyres in the UK. I use them on a 1930s car and they're better than the original period items as the modern compounds give better grip. Life is limited, especially as they are intended for road and racing. Modern steel belt radials are a lot tougher.
1:31 you was thinking about that apple same as i did ? :D XD
Lol
Im right in the middle of getting my grandfathers 1950 truck on the road. Love the vids. Where did you find a seat cover to fit the seat? Im looking for one. The seat is in good condition except right below the back window so im looking for a seat cover like yours. Thanks man.
0:40 i was like - > get both tires & drive what you want whenever you want :)
Awesome truck, I'm glad you chose bias ply, I just bought 1950 like yours. After watching this video, I will put those on my truck. My truck came with no engine but I found an original, except it's a floor shift, but since it's so hard to find exactly what I want, I will get it. Question, the donor chassis and motor has a 2 piece drive shaft, can i just cut the rear shaft to fit my shorter frame, my rear diff has a yoke on it, it's not for a torque tube?
The extra grip of radial tires, as demonstrated by the tire dealer, exerts a side thrust on the front wheel bearings, through turns and curves. The original ball bearings were not designed to withstand the additional side force provided by the grip of the radial tires. If you had installed the radial tires, you then should replace the front wheel bearing, with roller bearings. Just another reason to keep the bias ply tires, if your intention is to remain original equipment
Good Choice looks good, those white walls were not doing the truck any justice.
I am all about keeping my truck original , after finding 16 and 1/2 inch rims on Craigslist I changed out my 8-lug split rim, and went with a highway tread, not only a smoother ride, but my truck will roll a little faster. It's on TH-cam 1952 3/4 ton pick up fire truck
Dude please restore this truck back to factory. PLEASE!!!😎👍
That truck probably rolled off the assembly line with split rim tube type tires. Somewhere over the years some put those 15 inch tubeless wheels on it.
On my old 1951 chevy 3100, the tire shop sold me some Michelin and those rode very well ! further more , You need to know the front axle / suspension and steering Box were built to last, you can take some of the free play in the steering box by thightening a screw. Axle & king pins are best ever ( same as tractor truck ), axle can be straighten if bent, grease nipple on suspension spring. I see modification made to these truck with Ford macpherson suspension big mistake, original configuration with the king pins will outlast that. I lived up north Canada and my truck started in the - 50 C no block heater some times left in the cold for more than a week and it started every time.
Bias plies for older trucks and heavy duty trucks like a old chevy c30 or a dodge 3500
It will steer far easier with bias, i know from experience on my 56, steered very hard when i had radials on it...never again, turns with one finger now. 😊
good choice for the ole girl, but i wont let anyone touch my lugs with an impact ever again.
hope your wife and Henry and new bub are doing well hugssssss
We are blessed.
if you ask me! I think radial now that's old school
Did you adjust the gear box?
Please, need some advise.
I replace the link, tie rod and tie rod ends already and still have some play. Help needed! Thanks!
Running radials on my 5 widow & it takes great effort to turn while sitting still.
Very interesting. When I drive this truck with these skinny bias ply tires, I think, who needs power steering lol.
I learned something about the Bias Ply tire, as I'm running Radials on my 54 and it steers like a Tank! Going back to the Bias Ply's next year, as I have to put some money together! Thanks for this Video!
@@MrTommyboy9 Tickles me Y'all... when the inspection station kids try & grab up a big twist on the steering wheel. One even come off the seat with his head nearly bumping the wind shield. Had another one tell me that the brakes & power steering units were deficient. They really tweak out when they cant find the turn signal lever or hazard button. The Ooogahhh horn seems to pass O.K., as it is louder than most car horns. Taking the lid off the oil filled breather assembly really makes their day more con fusing - along with the lack of any oil filter. Wonder if they would ever find the battery? When I'm in a real kidding mood, I tell them... Yep! Just one more payment & it's all mine! And oh yeah this Baby here's E.M.P. Strike Proof.
My dad bought a used 70's Chevy pickup back in the mid 80's amd it had bias tires on it. My mom refused to ride in it because it rode so rough. He put radials on it...problem solved.
In the mid 80s the last hold outs of regular production run bias, aside from trailer, were 6 to 12 ply, aka c to e load, primarily for 4wd, RV and service vehicles. Try to find a D range capacity now that fits on a 15 rim and isn't a trailer tire ;)
Could you try using Bias Ply on the Front Axle and Radial Ply on the Rear? (but not vice-versa)
Some people have done this in the past.
Wow I video taped that video
#FarmAlarm are the new tires with steal cord or cotton cord?
Nice tryk🤩👍♥️🇩🇰
I run BFG 's radials on our 50 3100
what size did you go with ?
Bias in a heartbeat..i wouldn't think twice...
I'm 15 and I've been saving my pennies and dimes, and I only need $800 more to buy this 1950 ford sedan beater I've been looking at for a while. It doesn't run but I can get it running, and when I get it I'll work for a dual carb, high compression heads, and bias plies.
That's way cool Rex. Keep me posted. I hope you get your car bud!
@@FarmAlarm thanks. My dad is begging me not to, yet he's the one who had at least 5 different shitbuckets he had to scrap in the past 😂 his 77 Cherokee, 62 mercedes, 66 corvair, 82 Starion, 80's cj, 54 pontiac, etc
Just be sure you make it safe. Dont skimp out on the brake system. Probably wise to replace all the brake lines and such. All Go, and No Woah is never good..
@@FarmAlarm yeah
If you mentioned it, sorry - but what are the tires? Almost looks like a Kenda LT Bias I was thinking of using on my '49 to avoid Cok-r prices...
Note to the tire installer: Using side nippers to install new tire valves, is a big no-no. Use the proper tool for this job, specifically designed to install valves without damaging them.
To this truck's owner: I approve of your choice of bias ply tires for your truck. Its suspension was designed to work with bias ply tires. The soft, single-ply sidewall of a radial, is not compatible with the truck's suspension. Stiff suspension, soft tire sidewall, makes for potential trouble.
How many miles average can bias ply tires go to?
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Bias Ply.
That's what it had when new.
Radials if you want the tyres to last 50k plus miles or if the tread pattern you want is not available on a bias ply tyre.
Real men drive bias ply! Glad you went that route. Your tire guy is great, love his explanations. That twist test you did was cool. I never knew the reason why guys who put radials on have a hard time steering. A guy in an earlier comment mentions that. I have bias ply"s on my model A. I want that driving experience, seems like you do too. Keep the videos coming, we're all waiting for the drive with the old owner. You're doing that truck right!
Thanks Brian. I bet your Model A is sweet to drive around. I am glad i went Bias ply for sure. Stay tuned, more videos to come!
How is the ride? I like how my truck rides with the radial. But the steering is completely terrible and the wheels are after market I do have the original ones. I will be daily driving the truck and taken it on road trips but also using it as a truck. What would you recommend?
It's a toss up for me. I have had these bias tires for 3 years. I have had no issues. However I have often considered putting a set of radials on it. Mine steers great. I have put 10k miles on them. I really like the look of them on the truck too. I know I probably didn't help much lol. Thanks for the question
Bias are nice if your using power by Armstrong steering
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Also do yourself a favior replace the front hub Ball baring with Timken roller barings
Buy Timkens not the Cheep knockoff
Howard Nielsen I’ve even seen some timekin made in China. Sad really. Maybe he can find some NOS bearings.
bearing
SKF is the way to go.
Bias ply tires look great but if you plan on actually driving radial all day
Should have spent some time cleaning those rims first
I know, Right.
What brand are those biases?
If I got a brand new car I would put bias plies on it. But I'm never getting a car newer than 1959 anyway
I'm looking at a nice one for sale today. What is the value of that one?
what brand tires are those?
3:21 ~ 3:25 a little bit about how i'm taking decisions in my life :D :D :D
Coker Tires has radials that look like original bias ply
Interesting, I was always told that you can not put modern day radials on an old car, as the front end alignment systems that they were designed with were in the age before radials and if one puts on a radial tire it will cause stress and wear on the front end. It that is not true, I hope that radials would work as one day I hope to have an old truck myself.
You can definitely put radial tires on old vehicles. As soon as the radial came out, most folks ran them. 👍
O senhor da loja deu boas dicas a voce deve ter muito conhecimento , muito legal manter original, O seu aro é 16 ? poderia me passar as medidas do pneu que colocou ? preciso por no meu furgão e gostaria de uma referencia . saudaçoes do Brasil ....
obrigado por assistir. Minhas jantes são de 15 polegadas. o tamanho do pneu é 6,70 x 15. mas eu poderia ter sido mais alto com um 7,00 x 15
depends on where your driving, ply tires turn bit easier, but feel every bump, radials smoother ride, harder to make turns
The gentleman who sold you tires learned to sell tires but he didn't know what life was on practical terms... The axle under the forty nine is designed for "bias plys" and will track nicely yet with radials will dart on wet roads. I love radials but they were designed for a totally different application. Good choice and the truck just gets better every time I see it. I believe she will hang for a long time
Thanks for the info. However, in defense of the tire man, he was simply telling me the difference between radial tires and bias ply tires. He was not trying to sell me either one. Informational purposes only. I had already decided on bias. Thanks for the comment.
You forgot to mention that if you get a nail in your tire with a tube, you will lose your air pressure quality vs. without tubes.