Divers React to Buford Springs Cave Diving Disaster

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  • Two friends went down on a dive at a very popular dive site in central Florida...neither one of them survived. Here's what happened and how they could've avoided losing their lives.
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  • @trouty7947
    @trouty7947 ปีที่แล้ว +847

    Cave diving reminds me a lot of that old aviation saying, "you'd rather be on the ground wishing you where flying than in the air wishing you were on the ground", because you'd sure as hell rather be on the surface wishing you were diving than in a cave wishing you were on the surface.

    • @annabizaro-doo-dah
      @annabizaro-doo-dah ปีที่แล้ว +33

      There seems a lot of similarities with those that do both activities to a great age. My father in law was one of the few top dressing pilots to retire. Ex RAF he trained other air force pilots in the 70s. He was always meticulous with his pre flight "checks".

    • @JamesRockefeller45
      @JamesRockefeller45 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I was twice held under water once at just 4 feet and again at 15ft both times I could see the surface but couldn't get to it and believed I would die I got extremely lucky both times but that feeling and situation still comes up in my nightmares 20 years later I can remember it vivid like it was yesterday

    • @Dawg93
      @Dawg93 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@JamesRockefeller45 if it isn't too traumatic would you mind explaining what happened those times?

    • @Tyewilleatyoualive
      @Tyewilleatyoualive ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JamesRockefeller45 I totally feel you. I have had the same experience myself.
      And because of that experience, running out of air is my worst nightmare. I'd rather catch on fire then drown. (That's just my opinion)
      SUCH a hopeless and scary feeling not being able to inhale. x(

    • @JamesRockefeller45
      @JamesRockefeller45 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Dawg93 I was at the pool with friends in the summer and a girl who was always giving everyone shit and dressed like a guy showed up and she had her clothes on. I got out of the pool and pushed her in. I fell in with her and she kind of kneeled on my shoulders while pulling up on my armpits. I couldn't go up and couldn't go down and her head was just above the water. She was nuts and was actually trying to drown me for real. Someone got her off me when they realized she wasn't playing. When I was a probably 5 a bunch of us little kids were playing in a inflatable yard pool and a drunk uncle jumped in and started wrestling around. I got pinned under him and a inflatable inner tube and with all the splashing and kids he didn't realize I was under him. These were the two times I was just held under looking at the surface unable to reach it. But I actually have at least 3 more stories of almost drowning I grew up right on the beach in Maine

  • @shakascuba
    @shakascuba ปีที่แล้ว +204

    Cave zone starts at about ~120-130 ft, line starts around there. Max depth is ~160 with sticking your hand down in muck. I’ve spent many hours there, a great place…but is hazardous if you ignore your limits and training.
    On of my buddies was one of the guys who recovered the body. I’ve been diving with him at this location so he could practice the recovery documentation process. These guys take this very seriously. I’ve seen the report and you guys did a good job. Thanks!

  • @StandedInUtah
    @StandedInUtah ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Woody rarely asks a technical question he doesn't know the answer to. He is a true teacher at heart.

  • @bbs5400
    @bbs5400 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    29:30 To the people who don't watch the channel, Woody seems rude and uncompassionate by being harsh on the people who passed, but don't take it as that, he sounds so critical and angry because of how frustrated he is, such needless and avoidable deaths, it's beyond frustrating

    • @aussiechris5904
      @aussiechris5904 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Exactly, he recognizes stupidity and isn't afraid to call it as it is, regardless- just because people are dead, calling on their stupidity as to what caused their deaths may help others avoid it.

    • @shikeridoo
      @shikeridoo ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I don't see anything wrong with being harsh on people who died because of their own negligence. We are all self critical so I doubt that the people who're dead would care. It's just some over emotional relatives and youtube commenters. If I had a relative die because they were stupid, I wouldn't mind anybody analysing their mistakes. Don't annoy the mourning of course, but other than that who cares.

    • @707shmokey
      @707shmokey ปีที่แล้ว +10

      As someone whos never cave dived and will never do it. When i first found the channel i did get that vibe, but like u said its only because theyre needless and avoidable deaths.

    • @SnailHatan
      @SnailHatan ปีที่แล้ว +21

      He really doesn’t seem rude and uncompassionate at all.

    • @evenruderanger7617
      @evenruderanger7617 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes woody is harsh sometimes. But I love him. The only thing I don’t love is sometimes he can cut off Gus and “correct” Gus when it’s unnecessary. Gus talks past him sometimes.

  • @maximillian1109
    @maximillian1109 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I am really impressed with those three boys. They seemed to have taken notice of the divers activities and kept an eye on them, despite this truly not beingvtheir job. And then when shit hit the fan, they acted imediatly and tried their best to ha dle the situation. Good on them!!

  • @Jimmy_CV
    @Jimmy_CV ปีที่แล้ว +433

    I'm glad that they shared the report with you and it really sheds a lot of light on everything that went wrong. Frankly public redacted reports on dive incidents like this could really be valuable to the community. It really highlights the importance of proper planning, these two men didn't have to die they could still be alive today if they didn't make that second dive.

    • @Jimmy_CV
      @Jimmy_CV ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @S. Clarke it's hard to find detailed reports on stuff like this. Usually it's a state or govt report, those are usually very basic and vague on details. A friend of mine unfortunately died while hard hat diving to retrieve golf balls at the pointe vedra resort in Florida. The report by OSHA was not very detailed and left a lot of questions I had unanswered.

    • @technophant
      @technophant ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They didn’t go into recovering data from their dive computers. There’s many models and manufacturers so each one would have its own instructions or maybe a special cable or interface. There’s enough information without this to conclude what went wrong. Edit there’s information about the computer in the last pages of the report. They may have left it out because it wasn’t needed. Having a leak, low air and broken light is enough

    • @psychotimo
      @psychotimo ปีที่แล้ว +9

      full agree, even if they don't share it with the public directly, at least sharing it with the certificate providers (padi,CMAS,SSI,....) will provide valuable information and can be used to refine diving regulations and can be used in diving classes as examples of why you'd need to do X or pack a spare Y/Z.
      like, as an example: it's one thing to hear an instructor say "you should pack a spare torch, 'just in case'." but it's another thing to hear an instructor say "we've had an actual report of a diver dying cause his torch went out, he didn't have a spare, and couldn't find his way out of a cave." that second one is going to make you think a bit longer on the reason why they want that second torch.
      because even though a torch doesn't really sound like an important thing, you're more thinking of regulator,trimvest,... yet at the end of the day, in certain situations that torch is just as important. (not saying that lack of a torch was the issue in this case, just using it as a relevant example ^^)

    • @piano_man3404
      @piano_man3404 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @S. M. Unfortunately same “lack of information” problem in my sport, hang-gliding; probably due to lawsuits.

    • @peggedyourdad9560
      @peggedyourdad9560 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@piano_man3404 I Feel like the reports for these types of incidents, and many others, should be released to the public after the case has been fully settled legally. It could help educate and inform people on exactly what happened and what went wrong along with helping people understand how to avoid becoming a victim of a similar incident.

  • @marcimarce1207
    @marcimarce1207 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I feel for those boys who found them. They must've felt so helpless. I of course feel for the divers and their families too.

  • @bend185ont
    @bend185ont ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Those young boys were very on top their stuff. They seem to have a good sense of what to do. Pretty impressive for being so young.

  • @eliz_scubavn
    @eliz_scubavn ปีที่แล้ว +324

    I’m always impressed by the objectivity and general balance this channel pulls off. It doesn’t make things into hysteria, it doesn’t try and make a mountain out of a molehill or provide anything other than measured facts and actual informed commentary/opinions.
    This video is already good and I’m only part of the way into it. Thank you!

    • @GardenGrownGreens
      @GardenGrownGreens ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree it’s very refreshing!

    • @danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307
      @danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do stupid things get stupid rewards!

    • @SpinoRexy733
      @SpinoRexy733 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The sad thing is that channels that engage in all of the above out number those that don't and have way bigger audiences. It's like we are truly living in a Idiocracy.

    • @sbybby
      @sbybby ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You say that but they both continously make assumptions throughout the process of watching the content 😅

    • @abrb1223
      @abrb1223 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@sbybbyAssumptions based on science, evidence and years of training are referred to as "Hypotheses" or "inferences". There's a pretty big distinction there.

  • @brucemattes5015
    @brucemattes5015 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Kudos to both Gus & Woody for pointing out the fatal flaws in these two divers planning.
    As a non-diver, who used to rock climb, I can say with authority that all high risk sports/activities require similar types of pre-planning in order to successfully engage in the sport/activity with the least amount of risk.

  • @calvinh.8882
    @calvinh.8882 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I live about 20 minutes from there so I've been to Buford spring and the Eagles Nest in the Wildlife Management Area. I don't dive, but I love spending the day out in those woods and have more times than I can count over the years, and one day I drove out to the Eagles Nest dive site to eat lunch on the dock/steps and a guy pulled up in a nice BMW and I was kinda shocked because it was wet and muddy that day, but he backed in and started taking his tanks and things out of his trunk, and I walked over and asked if he had friends coming to dive with him, and he said no he doesn't know anyone around there and he was passing through and wanted to dive and see the caves, so he had never even been there before and was going down by himself, and I told him that I don't usually get into other peoples business, but divers have died in them even tho' they had dove their many times before, and it's very foolish to dive alone to start with, but even crazier to dive those caves alone. So I told him I would hang around until he came back up, and after an hour if he wasn't back up I would drive to where I get cell service and call 911 to retrieve his body. So then he decided that he was just going to go down and get a few photos of the entrance of the cave, so I waited for him and he spent about 15 minutes down there, and then he came up and got out.

    • @gunnydan25
      @gunnydan25 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      You may have just saved that guys life.

  • @pamelaperez5554
    @pamelaperez5554 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    Don't apologize for the long video! You guys do an amazing job breaking down the information. Love watching y'all!

    • @KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking
      @KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking ปีที่แล้ว +7

      _Yeah...how DARE you give us more of what we want!_ 😅

    • @stephanienoblet8503
      @stephanienoblet8503 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True I love the information

    • @masterbates7016
      @masterbates7016 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right this was an awesome video with great information and detailed facts loved it

  • @navalhistoryhub3748
    @navalhistoryhub3748 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    As an Ex Royal Navy salvage diver planning is king!!! There is no stone that can be left unturned or you will pay the price. Diving has zero forgiveness for ego and complacency! Phenomenal breakdown as always and much love gentlemen.

  • @mikesbigadventures194
    @mikesbigadventures194 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Man as soon as you said AL53 I knew what the issue was. Sometimes it’s the older super experienced divers who think they know better. Very sad. And Woody doing the dive plan on the fly like that was perfect.

  • @MarkMopsyBarnett
    @MarkMopsyBarnett ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Far too many media outlets report on stuff far too quickly with misinformation or incorrect information.
    You guys do it the correct way, you have the full report/s or information and your videos are brilliant and informative.

  • @teeandkids937
    @teeandkids937 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I don’t dive nor do I really want to but I could sit and listen to you guys talk and explain this stuff all day! I’m learning so much! It’s very humbling to think just like that it could be my time. I feel so bad for their families!

  • @darrel_2238
    @darrel_2238 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    I am not a diver. I do not care to ever dive. But I can understand the enthusiasm and love for a sport. I want to say that this is a fascinating (to me) podcast. Your diligence in providing facts to teach others the proper way to enjoy their sport, in what is most often very humbling and sorrowful incidents, goes way beyond just a reaction video. There are literal and analogical life lessons that you present as they relate to proper training and preparation for diving (this is relatable to anything in life). Thank you, guys! I really appreciate the channel and your ability to translate such a (to me) dangerous sport and present it in a way that is quite fascinating. Because of you, cave diving may not be as dangerous as I once thought. But, your sport demands all your attention. It must be respected. That respect is extended to you, as you teach us all the dangers and wonders of cave diving. Kudos to you. Waiting for the next video.

    • @BobMuskFan
      @BobMuskFan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's not a sport because you don't compete with anyone.

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@BobMuskFan That's the kind of things said by people who don't believe D&D is a game because even the Dungeon Master wants the party to survive and "win"...
      NOT everything is "zero-sum", dude... get over it. ;o)

    • @skzion2
      @skzion2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Darrel, the thing is that typical warm water diving to 60ft in the ocean at a reef is quite safe with adequate training. It's hard to get into too much trouble. But when you get below 100ft things change. Then there are real risks that one must be alert to, including the risk that one will absorb enough nitrogen that one will not properly assess risks.
      What is so frustrating about videos like this is the crazy lack of awareness of the divers. They should already have known that this dive was beyond their ability. Even if it were not, they should have gone with a real pro guide.

    • @fkrioters1000
      @fkrioters1000 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Most diving is quite safe, and not super-complex. You need proper training to not make "rookie mistakes" but it's something most people should be able to do safely (with training).
      What these two divers did was BEYOND reckless and insane. They did the equivalent of driving into a desert, knowing the gas-tank was only 20% full. It doesn't matter if literally EVERYTHING goes right and zero problems, they were doomed to run out of gas.
      This is as much of an "accident" as someone jumping off 10-floor building without a parachute, thinking they can fly or will survive uninjured.

    • @luckylass5444
      @luckylass5444 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I do not dive and I barely swim. I snorkel, but love these videos.😂

  • @georgehelaine
    @georgehelaine ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I can honestly say that both Gus and Woody care a lot for us divers. I thank God for finding me Dive Talk!

  • @linr1294
    @linr1294 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I just feel so bad for the kids who called 911.

  • @louloubell7288
    @louloubell7288 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Bless those 3 kind boys. They tried so hard 😢🙏💙💙💙

    • @chriscrawford1231
      @chriscrawford1231 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That couldn’t have been easy. Respect for them that they stepped up and did what they could.

  • @Rubymoon286
    @Rubymoon286 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Thank you guys for covering this. It blows my mind that they'd go back down when they suspected had a leaky tank let alone a tiny tank. Seems like they just decided that they should follow safety 3rd and it cost them their lives.

    • @brois841
      @brois841 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's the thing... 53cf isn't even enough for any kind of a normal single dive to 140ft... not to mention resurfacing and going again, whether anything is leaking or not.

    • @Rubymoon286
      @Rubymoon286 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@brois841 for sure, it's absolutely mind boggling to me the lack of respect for the danger they both had. I get that cave diving is fun, I've been doing it for a decade, but the moment safety isn't the first priority, you are literally putting your life on the line arguably for any type of dive, but especially a technical dive.

    • @fkrioters1000
      @fkrioters1000 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have dove 130ft on an 80cu, in open-water, and it was a short dive. It was basically go down, look around for 10 minutes, then surface.
      When I ready about the incident, I knew about the tanks being partially-used and possible leak, but assumed standard 80cu. Even then, I was saying a partially used 80cu obviously wasn't enough for a 130ft dive, and only questioned whether they intentionally went that deep. Now that I learn they had partially-used 53cu and intentionally went for 130ft?!!?!?! Even if they had 2200 psi left, or even 3000 psi, it wouldn't have been enough.
      This wasn't a "safety 3rd" dive, it was suicidal. It was "lets plan to jump off a 100ft building without a parachute." They were effectively guaranteed to die.

    • @Rubymoon286
      @Rubymoon286 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fkrioters1000 they were totally idiotic. I like to try to think the best of situations and chalk it up to ignorance or poor planning, but you're absolutely right, it's insane to try to take that dive on even a full 50. I'm absolutely struggling to fully comprehend the sheer stupidity of their actions.

  • @sammoyers905
    @sammoyers905 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Excellent video gentlemen. Having the report from the rescuers is a master stroke. Leaking yoke regulator and 1/4 turn back, which turns into 1.5 to 2 turns by the report were factors in this tragedy. My heart felt condolences to the families.
    As always,
    Dive safe.

  • @juliabures204
    @juliabures204 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What do you mean sorry about the long explanation?!!! You guys did a great job and in my opinion it wasn’t “ long “ or dragged out or anything ! I think you guys did an amazing and respectful job covering this story.!

  • @lsewell95
    @lsewell95 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I'm really glad that you guys waited until you had the facts to react to this video. Personally, I like to read reports like these in order to learn from them. We do the same thing in the fire service by reading and learning from line of duty death reports so that we can attempt to avoid future similar occurrences. Diving and firefighting are similar in that you should always keep practicing, training and learning from previous experiences no matter your level of certification or experience.

  • @IvanimalReacts
    @IvanimalReacts ปีที่แล้ว +61

    The more I watch these videos, the less, less likely I’m willing to go cave diving. If Gus or Woody is not there, I’m not doing it.

  • @Sirmellowman
    @Sirmellowman ปีที่แล้ว +18

    ive been on a binge of your guys channel so hard lately. im not even a diver I dont even know why I find it so interesting. again I'm not a diver but I am apart of the aviation community and I find it very important that the reasons for deaths and mishaps are shared to the community to make it a safer activity to engage in and I think its exactly the same with the Diving community. good for you guys doing this.

  • @jerkomirko
    @jerkomirko ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have never been diving in my life I don't know why I am so fascinated by your videos. Maybe someday. Gus, one important thing you've shown me is even big guys like myself can dive too. You don't have to be a skinny little twig.
    Thanks for the content fellas, stay safe.

    • @alexeisenhardt9299
      @alexeisenhardt9299 ปีที่แล้ว

      My dads friend that certified my when I was 11 is a big dude. Prob 300 pounds back in the day and he still cave dives. He told me that he went 400 feet one time and had like 4 or 6 tanks on him lol.

  • @RG32107
    @RG32107 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you for being so respectful to the victims of this tragedy

  • @chriscringle5160
    @chriscringle5160 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I wasn’t familiar with this incident but that’s an incredibly sad story. Thanks for breaking down the details of this and illustrating how there’s no room for complacency in any form of diving, let alone a dive such as this.

  • @lydialeigh4
    @lydialeigh4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Now that we have the facts and can better understand all of the experience these gentleman had before that fatal dive, it just makes you shake your head in disbelief. I wonder how much complacency around dive planning and safety checks had occurred during previous dives for it to eventually culminate in this unfortunate tragedy. It’s a sobering, but important reminder.

  • @wheresthebeefwherestheprob9951
    @wheresthebeefwherestheprob9951 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Sad for the family's loss. 🌹 I wish people would realize every single dive, no matter how many times you've dived or how experienced you are, it's life and death serious. Every time 😔 Such a tragedy

  • @tamo9520
    @tamo9520 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    With the extremely detailed information that you both provide to us, your viewers, Gus!, don't ever apologize for a 'long' video!

  • @wheresthebeefwherestheprob9951
    @wheresthebeefwherestheprob9951 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but imagine how many more serious if not deadly situations Buford would see if it wasn't so far into the back woods. If people could just pull right up to the caves we'd sadly see many more of these tragedies. Thank you guys for all your doing to keep the diving community aware of these situations and mostly safety. 🌹😔

  • @RavenousMedicine
    @RavenousMedicine ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Those poor boys. That had to have been a scary situation. I hope they're doing well. I doubt any of them will ever read this, but it sounds like they did just what they needed to do. You did all you could do.

  • @jannisvollbrandt
    @jannisvollbrandt ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love how you go over diving accidents and do a full work-up where possible. It just goes to show that diving is save when you adhere to rules and follow protocols. Great that you wait for official reports and not fuel any speculations! Thanks for the clear explanation :)

    • @DG-iw3yw
      @DG-iw3yw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, as safe as any other extremely dangerous activity...

  • @heatherlilly2344
    @heatherlilly2344 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I appreciate that you take the time to educate us instead of just sharing the tragic parts. Well done 👏

  • @Cleric314
    @Cleric314 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I can't believe this channel has 200k subs now! I remember when it was below 30k subs. Great job as usual, love your dedication to being educational and waiting for all the details and facts to come out before reacting!

  • @Tinorr28
    @Tinorr28 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a prospective diver in the future, I treasure the fact that you take the time to explain the incidents and the rules that could have prevented the problems. I love the points you raise as well as the fact that you give us the straight importance of appropriate training and what that entails.

  • @juliegerasimenko200
    @juliegerasimenko200 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I’m trying to
    Figure out why watching and listening to you two is so captivating, fun and relaxing-It’s like hanging out with good friends! And I’m not even a diver 😂 y’all are awesome! My fav TH-cam Chanel for sure. 🥰

  • @sandygrogg1203
    @sandygrogg1203 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a non-diver, but I hope divers that sees this video will take it to heart. Training, planning, using your good common sense is so important to successful thrive. My heart goes out to the families of these men. Thanks Gus and Woodyfor doing this episode. This is the second time I have seen it, and it is still bone chilling.

  • @seanspartan2023
    @seanspartan2023 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I still don't understand how these two experienced divers (one being a Navy Chief) didn't know their air supply was insufficient for children let alone grown men?

  • @Lackis
    @Lackis ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As someone with no interest or experience in actual diving I still find your channel fascinating and I actually really appreciate the detailed breakdowns and explanations you guys do. It's really interesting and the sensitivity and frankness you treat all these incidents with is incredibly compelling.

  • @afterburn2600
    @afterburn2600 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I only partially completed my open water certification due to a medical thing that prevented me from continuing training. So I have an interest and a slight modicum of knowledge. Your videos are amazing - thank you for the breakdowns. I was shocked to hear they were diving to that depth on a 53cf tank and did so twice. The math didn't add up in my very inexperienced head, much less on a planner. Don't get me wrong - I'm not judging. I'm saddened that it ended that way for all parties involved. And your knowledge you've imparted on what would be required vs what they brought makes this even more tragic - a very preventable situation.

  • @justicekrista5665
    @justicekrista5665 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gus and Woody, this is one of the very best channels on youtube. You guys do such interesting, sometime sad, and sometimes hilarious videos. Love the hats woody.!!

  • @harrodharrod5239
    @harrodharrod5239 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The last video about Linnea alleges, that the dry suit she purchased was in fact a surface dry suit (one intended for surface work in water rather than diving), so the suit wasn't even equipped to accept inflator hose, which in my mind makes the whole case even worse. The instructors need to be sued for murder.

    • @harrodharrod5239
      @harrodharrod5239 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm aware there's an ongoing lawsuit regarding this incident, but the prosecutors chose not to pursue the avenue of manslaughter. This is understandable, as for a lay person (and especially for a jury of peers), all of this can easily be interpreted as a (yet another) diving mishap. But anyone who has any experience with scuba diving must see, how it's much more than that. And the more details I learn about this, the more egregious the whole case becomes.

    • @harrodharrod5239
      @harrodharrod5239 ปีที่แล้ว

      @S. Clarke Seeing how the divecenter that's teaching under PADI operates over here, I'd love to see the entire institution shut down. It's borderline dangerous.

    • @harrodharrod5239
      @harrodharrod5239 ปีที่แล้ว

      @S. Clarke Czech republic. It's a money making operation, strictly quantity over quality. My friend is an instructor there and even he admitted, that there were some trainees he would not have signed off during the time he was working as a divemaster there.
      After my last trip to do some sea diving, I think the 4 open water dives are just not enough to be fully qualified as a standalone diver. Sure, you learn how not to kill yourself while diving, but it's nowhere near enough to just let you dive on your own.

  • @Noori-xq2kw
    @Noori-xq2kw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t think I’ll ever go diving, but I’ve learned sooooo much about diving just watching dive talk.

  • @ProfileP246
    @ProfileP246 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I believe you guys have basically revolutionised how not only non divers like me but also very experienced divers think about diving in caves.
    Other videos I go to always quote Dive Talk in regards to making sure the safety element of diving is adhered to.
    Well done guys to achieve that alone is a lifetime well spent.
    Fascinating to hear the written report from the recovery divers and Woodies dive plan btw.

  • @jessicacossin6282
    @jessicacossin6282 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Major kudos to your channel for waiting until the facts to come to light before showing & reacting to any videos where something tragic happens!

  • @OutlawQueen127
    @OutlawQueen127 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a huge amount of respect for you guys. Please do not apologize for long explanations, by doing so, you’re potentially saving someone’s life. I myself am not even a diver, nor have I ever dove. I’m claustrophobic so I for sure couldn’t cave dive, but I may would try surface diving. But just now I learned a lot about what it takes to plan and be prepared. I hope you guys keep doing what you’re doing. These podcasts are very educational.

  • @fletcherfoster8088
    @fletcherfoster8088 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please don’t apologize I can only speak for myself but I prefer to watch you guy’s longer video’s l. I don’t dive not like swimming much but find this sport very interesting. You guys have one of the best channels on TH-cam and could save lives with your expertise, experience and knowledge you put out!!!! Kudos!!!

  • @Leppahcetssalc
    @Leppahcetssalc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don’t apologize for the long explanation! We appreciate it! Thank you for sharing your knowledge in these reaction videos.

  • @jacobwheatly9300
    @jacobwheatly9300 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you guys for covering this I live in Spring Hill and shared this article to your instagram DM back on June 22 but hadn’t heard much about it since then great work love the videos keep up the great work!!

  • @elizabethannferrario7113
    @elizabethannferrario7113 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you guys RIP to both Divers , condolences to families, very sad .

  • @zariballard
    @zariballard ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch all your shows and will NEVER even THINK of scuba diving. Never ever. No way. No how. These were seasoned divers who dove there often. How could that happen? How could they make all those mistakes? The volunteers are wonderful to rescue these people.

  • @SIthLord0666
    @SIthLord0666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm not a diver, I'm from New Zealand, would love to learn, love watching your videos with my sister and best mate, keep it up fellas, much love ❤️

  • @brandonkelly7822
    @brandonkelly7822 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad you guys have so much experience and training one of the most humble people I seen. Thanks for sharing all the time hope to dive with you guys one day.

  • @ClimateObserver
    @ClimateObserver ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These guys are the absolute best as far as safety. I love listening to their discussion. As a former recreational open water & reef cave diver uts great to hear experts talking through (accidents?) Identifying fatal flaws & lack of proper planning.
    Great videos, sadly there is no shortage of diving bravado

  • @cliffmillerslandlockedexpl5421
    @cliffmillerslandlockedexpl5421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love when ya'll do videos like this. I think it presents a lessons learned, a tragic lessons learned, for those who ate just beginning their journey into scuba diving and those who have already began their journey. Thanks you for this.

  • @BettyAnne2402
    @BettyAnne2402 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not a diver but I love to watch your videos and learn about this sport. One day I hope to be able to get into the water and I know I'll be safer thanks to you guys. If only other people listened to you as well. Great videos guys, as always!

  • @1719456
    @1719456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I lived in Hernando County for about 20 years & left about 12 years ago. Prior to this video, I had no idea that Buford Springs existed & I never knew anyone who did any type of diving, free diving, open water, scuba diving or cave diving. Having watched your channel for quite some time it seems odd that I never was aware of what seems to be a popular sport in Florida.

  • @Nighturz
    @Nighturz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you guys for sharing this! I really enjoy all of the different directions the channel goes. As usual you guys are great, can't wait for the next one!

  • @debrabolton9372
    @debrabolton9372 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am not a diver but I admire the determination and courage it takes to cave dive. I find your discussions to be very interesting and enlightening. It is tragic when someone loses his life doing something he enjoys. Woody, I don't know if you intentionally wore pink for Breast Cancer Awareness Month but watching this in October made it so appropriate.

  • @wraythezw
    @wraythezw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how Woody always has some different cap/etc on in these videos. Keep up the great content guys, love watching your videos!

  • @AshleyMarie-mr4ry
    @AshleyMarie-mr4ry ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Woody & Gus for this informative video. I’m impressed with the kids for being so responsible and very helpful in this scary and stressful situation.

  • @bul166
    @bul166 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The epitome of how to break down a tragic incident and do it respectfully, factually, with the intent to learn from it. Gus & Woody, you guys are truly great at doing this. 👍

  • @sierrramoss
    @sierrramoss ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for going into such detail and being so professional! You guys are doing such a good thing here it’s nice to hear trained professionals opinion and breakdowns!!!! ❤

  • @Za7a7aZ
    @Za7a7aZ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These were experienced dive buddies..how incredible that they made this simple mistake with their dive plan...or lack of.

  • @megyskermike
    @megyskermike ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for adding so much context to this story. Appreciate how concise and informative you guys always are.
    Even though I'm not interested in diving, I always watch the whole video because of how well you guys inform/teach the general public about these topics (remind me of some of my favorite professors). The objectivity is really necessary to understand how/why this happens (rather than everyone just shouting about dangerous it is/of course they died).

  • @Murrrrrrp
    @Murrrrrrp ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gosh. It’s always so dang sad when a death occurs that could have truly been prevented. My heart and loving thoughts are going out to the families of both men. ❤️❤️

  • @gotahgemini6415
    @gotahgemini6415 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you for approaching incidents like these the way you do.

  • @Evl_1
    @Evl_1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always great to watch your videos. Breaking them down so even people that dont understand diving can understand. Great Work as always.

  • @ChiefofPropaganda
    @ChiefofPropaganda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys do an outstanding service to the community, it is saddening what happened to the divers but taking the time to learn from this video, and the question of " when and where could this have been prevented? " is extremely important. Thank you, Gus, Woody, and the IUCRR for all that you do

  • @jazzysmovies
    @jazzysmovies ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve never gone diving in my life and learning about it from you guys has been extremely enlightening. Thank you for being so knowledgeable, not into fear mongering, and not judging victims who make awful mistakes.
    I love how careful you are to teach others what the mistakes were, but to be kind and respectful to the victims and their families as well. Amazing, both of you!

  • @cathythoman
    @cathythoman ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I will never be able to dive due to physical disabilities or learn to swim due to water phobia. But I love learning from you. I end up doing more research after watching your videos. Thank you for this education

  • @TrappedinSLC
    @TrappedinSLC ปีที่แล้ว

    "The SAC rate of a mouse" is such a vivid description.

  • @AndrewsArachnids
    @AndrewsArachnids ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "5mins to save your life" sage words of wisdom from everyone's favorite Cephalopod = Aliens philosopher

  • @TheSamleigh
    @TheSamleigh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whoever narrated this video - they did a hell of a job (the fact he included info Woody related @ the start of vid - that impressed me anyway).

  • @jaketschida7016
    @jaketschida7016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree, no need to apologize. It is a sad lost in the diving community. Thank you for sharing

  • @ConquerYou
    @ConquerYou ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been here since 30K subs. Congratulations on your successess DiveTalk Gus and Woody!!

  • @GuncladSaiyan
    @GuncladSaiyan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Gus and Woody for sharing another video we can all learn from. Most of these dive fatalities seem to be people who are not certified and trained in caves, let alone open water. This kind of mistake also translates over in almost any kind of activity though. Planning and necessary safety precautions make ALL the difference. Side note: seems to me the biggest advantage of being trained and certified is knowing what to do in an emergency.

    • @fkrioters1000
      @fkrioters1000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In this specific case, their dive-plan would have killed them in open-water. This wasn't a mistake, this was ignoring practically EVERYTHING about scuba-training. Even without planning, with air-monitoring, you can generally see "I have only about 1000psi left, time to turn around"

  • @kelleykelkel3370
    @kelleykelkel3370 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not a diver, especially a cave diver! But I came across your channel last night. I binged many of your videos. I want to say I already love it!!! I love that you both always point out all the safety procedures that are being used or NOT!!! I'll never be cave diving but I appreciate your channel here on you tube. I'm glad you're both here reviewing all these videos❤... ❤️❤️❤️

  • @donnakawana
    @donnakawana ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing your lives an the expertise of diving. Thanks for explaining things this is a tuff one for sure .. those poor families what a senseless deaths... Grateful for the rescue divers. An for 1st responders cuz without them there wud not be families getting their loved ones back .. grateful for everyone who helped retrieve these men.An for Dive Talk helping us to understand an learn the rite way to plan a dive...
    Thanks guy's for sharing your lives with us grateful for you both!✌🏼💗

  • @divecurrent
    @divecurrent ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for doing this video! I was wondering about the details. So tragic, so preventable 😢

  • @ivoryjohnson4662
    @ivoryjohnson4662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for bringing this information to light, I learn so much from this channel with this information their deaths will not be a total loss , we can learn and apply lessons from this tragedy. My condolences to the families and loved ones.

  • @Squillem
    @Squillem ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haven’t yet started diving myself but I’d like to in the future. Really appreciate you guys doing your best to teach the most important safety details of diving. Thank you

  • @gwensstepbro4966
    @gwensstepbro4966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the coverage guys. And for another great video in general.

  • @SAVE
    @SAVE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You two really are a great team! You couldn't be more different, but that's what makes it so entertaining. I also really like the way you argue. There is nothing arrogant and it stays with the facts. Greetings from Germany

  • @AyJayStyles
    @AyJayStyles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As soon as I saw this incident on another channel a few months ago I knew that I wanted to hear what Woody and Gus had to say when more info was available
    I kinda forgot about it over time but I’m so glad to finally see this video pop up on my feed! Great work as always guys

  • @cindyseah8560
    @cindyseah8560 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video. 👍 Sheds alot of light on the incident. Hats down to IUCCR for assisting the authorities, and the detailed report they wrote.

  • @hdors13
    @hdors13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you guys for the long informative reaction. Great stuff as always. It's so sad these guys died, especially since they were experienced divers. It makes no sense, but your commentary really emphasizes how important safety is.

  • @saradejesus9869
    @saradejesus9869 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the report at the end. It was all fascinating, not one bit boring and I heard things I'm glad to know.

  • @sw8741
    @sw8741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video. I'm not a diver but love learning general information about things and you guys certainly explain things so that someone with 0 knowledge can understand. This is why I watch you guys.

  • @justicekrista5665
    @justicekrista5665 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your Channel has, and will continue to, save many lives by educating divers of all skill levels.

  • @PoetOnTheRun
    @PoetOnTheRun ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks . Love to start the week with new posts..take care. Dive safe.

  • @nancybrands9041
    @nancybrands9041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will never ever dive but I do enjoy listening to you explain the plans and the dives. I just like education. Thank you so much

  • @henrys9244
    @henrys9244 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive only subscribed and click like because of your intro - The very fact you dont jump into it without knowing the facts like many other youtube channels do... I as a subscriber see, appreciate and know that you care about what happened and I find this respectful towards the casualty or victims in your videos it goes a long way . Great job keep it up! From France

  • @GeMan11
    @GeMan11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video. You guys are always so informative and respectful.

  • @PolySpikeAndWave
    @PolySpikeAndWave 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys are always a pleasure to watch. I’m not planning on cave diving ever but I’m very intrigued by this subject. I am amazed by how much work and preparation goes into it and the high risk that’s there. Cave diving gotta be the most dangerous activity out there.

  • @LITOLifeintheOcean
    @LITOLifeintheOcean ปีที่แล้ว +2

    80Cu is 11.1 ltrs, a 53 is 7.6ltrs, we use 53s in Thailand as additional bail out tanks when wearing a back mounted 80Cu tank as primary when teaching. This is a shocking incident.

  • @chaseroberts2697
    @chaseroberts2697 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want to say that I appreciate what y’all do reiterating safety planning… it’s easy to try to base things off of muscle memory and make mistakes. You guys are reminding people that it is very important to take a few minutes and plan accordingly