Luke Saleem I wouldn’t say that, I believe he truly valued Maul as an apprentice, taking him as a child and even going as far as to deceive Plagueis in order to secretly train Maul as a Sith Lord. Also, not sure if canon, but in a comic he explains to Vader that it was a loss when Maul “died”
Sideous: *Uncharacteristically is stunned to silence and shows deep interest in a former Sith like they have history* Jedi: "Who could the Sith master be?"
You have to remember Naboo was the planet Palpatine was from, and as it was where the incident took place it wouldn't raise many eyebrows for a political leader to seem surprised an assassin had survived on his home planet. (Plus Anakin is talking as a "soldier" in this point in time, no time to ponder things like this)
Darth sidious was impressed with darth mauls survival, and perhaps thought his apprentices were far more powerful than he thought, which explains why he saved Vader despite his body being Complety burnt and limbless, maybe he hoped Vader could heal his injuries and body somehow, very much like Darth maul ' survived his injuries ' after naboo.
I agree . Maul was the first Sith to survive death . By all accounts he should be dead .the man was cut in half) His force strength must of been off the charts , possibly equal to Anikins. Even now at half his Force power ( because lost half his body ) He is still a threat . oh and his Master could not see Mauls future.Or feel his presence through the Force
@@mikeclark1756 his potential was not to anakins level but he was very powerful, Anakin lost all his limbs and was burnt all the way to his lungs but he still was very powerful
Havel the Rock grievous took the place of maul. Original maul came back as a cyborg in episode three. But he thought audiences would think it was too outlandish.
The fact that the Palpatine had to intervene personally to stop Maul proves how powerful he really was to be viewed by Palpatine as a potential threat to him and his plan.
I dont think Sidious intially wanted to fight maul, but once he stepped into Maul's throne room and saw Savage, he immediatley knew what was up, and, being very upset by Maul's betrayal, chose to defeat his former apprentice .
chicken Chubbzzz Mh i dont think so - but valid theory - i think he wanted to see if he would be a better fit than dooku or maybe just see what he can do/ how many jedi he can slaughter - but before he got dangerous he intervened - we know maul is no match for vader - i guess dooku was also slightly superior- but maul was still better than any jedi (exept anakin,yoda and mace) - so siddious toyed with him a little
Really wish Palpatine has maneuvered Maul and Anakin into crossing paths. Anakin tapping deep into the dark side to avenge Qui-Gon would have been exactly what the Chancellor wanted.
It wouldn't really worked. Anakin was really young at the time he was with Qui-Qon Jin so he hardly knew much about him, it's not like Obi Wan where he was his pupil for years to have that perfect blood feud.
Qui-Gon appears to Anakin on planet Mortis. Maybe they didn't know each other for long, but it's obvious Qui-Gon left a very big impression on Anakin. Both were also unconventional mavericks who preferred to do things their own way, while Obi-Wan was a bit more by the book and conservative.
Anakin wouldn’t have gone dark to avenge Qui-Gon. He was more than able to handle such fights. At most Maul would make a comment to temporarily piss him off.
In TPM Sidious valued or in a twisted way even 'loved' Maul so much he had great plans with him. But after Maul's supposed death on Naboo, Sidious had to move on with Dooku. Even Sidious didn't intended or wished it to happen that way, Maul became a obstacle in his grand plan by forming his criminal empire. Then Maul felt betrayed by the very evil who once was so proud in molded the little zabrak into a loyal, determinated and strong warrior after investing so many years in him. I thinks its rather sad. In TPM Maul thought he could rule by Sidious' side and becoming so much more and Sidious had his favourite apprentice for a much longer period, before casting him aside for Anakin.
Darth maul could have spilled the beans and palpatine would have had 10,000 Jedi hunting him before his plans were ready so yeah I understand his reaction
Sidious's plans will still go on as planed, even with Maul alive to spill the beans. Although, they won't go by smoothly. Sidious is this close and doesn't want to be slowed down by investigations. He owns the courts and the senate. The Jedi can do nothing because in the end, there would be no proof. The average politician doesn't care much for the Jedi's knowledge of Sith lords. It comes off as a belief system to them. While the Jedi them self's are not looking to good anyway, due to propaganda. Maul would just be an annoying insect getting in the way of Sidious achiving his goals.
dragon slayer god. Well if Maul spilled the beans about Sidious's plan. Sidious would just go through with Order 66 if he felt that there was no other way out. Sure it would not go as smoothly as the Jedi would know whats going on but having the Clones turn on the Jedi in the middle of the War would cause chaos. The Clones and Jedi would be killing each other while the Separatists would still be fighting them too. With Sidious's grand plan revealed he would go into hiding on Separatist planets and attack Kamino and destroy the cloning facilities as there would be no point to use Clones anymore because a new Chancellor would be appointed and Sidious would no longer have command over them. So Sidious, Dooku and Grevious would continue the war against the Republic but Sidious would have a harder time trying to become ruler of the Galaxy.
It saddens me that Maul never got to fight Anakin, and they nearly did during the seige of Mandalore and then he had to go to Coruscant, and then as Vader he nearly did in Rebels but Kanan had to yeet Maul off a cliff
to be blunt with it when he heard that maul was alive he knew things might go out of hand and everything he worked so hard on might get undone by him if he was left alone so in that moment he basically was in panic mode and trying not to let it show on his face
@@PepicWalrus exactly, it's implied so you can argue that though. Grevious' body is different than the body in The Clone Wars. "I expected you to be Taller" could have been implied "Icut your ass down last time, your upgrades are not impressive"
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Dave Faloni and Lucas: Lets bring Maul back! Palps: ...I did not forsee this. ( In all seriousness, I really enjoy the moments in the old EU where Sideous had his plans hovering just on the edge of failure. It makes his whole master plan feel just that more impressive. Bits from this comic, the Fives/Order 66 arc, and the Labyrinth of Evil/RotS novelization really did a good job with portraying the scope of it all. )
There’s a good reason why Sidious is obsessed with chasing Maul. If the Jedi capture Maul alive they could get him to expose Sidious’ true identity. Maul was the only threat to the Sith Lord’s plans.
Yeah, especially when seemingly everyone else did. But I prefer it like that, it's hilarious that the guy who was moving all the pieces on the board was the last to be informed of a new piece coming in.
Lol love your little quotes at the end Palpatine was a once man task force he choked ao many Mandolarians like they were nothing then whipped some Zabrak ass
Maybe . Because Maul is cloaked to Sidious. Plagueis was almost killed by assassins . It would have to be by stealth . one on one Sidious wins every time . Maul has lost half hi force strength.
His original reaction to Mual’s survival is interesting but i wonder what emotions and thoughts were going through his head. Clearly in his own twisted way he cared somewhat for Mual similar to how a father feels pride for a son. Mual was Darth Sidious’s first apprentice. That would be impossible for anyone teacher even a Sith Lord to not feel something for their first student. Darth Sidious did not have any love for Mual however. Darth Sidious most likely wanted Mual for some kinda of experiments in the Force and possibly other and darker reasons. If Mual had not escaped he would have had a fate far worse then death.
Did the Light Side somehow cloak Maul's existence from Sidious's perception..? I mean Maul cried out when his brother was cut down, he wasn't completely devoid of feelings..? In some ways Maul is the thread woven through and around both Light and Dark.. mostly dark but with glint of light, again like the Prime Jedi mosaic?
Something definitely cloaked Maul, yeah, because seemingly every other Force wielder with a history with either Maul or Savage felt that something bad was coming as Savage got closer to finding Maul.
Lol definitely left a like for "becoming my own task force"! Palps did just that, an old man taking on 2 (magically) healthy Dathomir males. To this day never will understand why Obi Wan and Anakin decided to hop on Savage's back and punch him in the face when it's 2 on one and they had they're lightsabers drawn! (EP of Savage's attempted kidnap turned murder)
Sidious had raised maul for 20+ years, there was no way in hell darth maul did not recognize the sith lords face. Maul probably did not tell of the grand plan because, if he were to defeat sidious and dooku, the clones would most likely fall into maul's hands. Darth maul with a mighty army like the clones would be almost unstoppable.
Anakin:maul is alive. Palpatine:what is that true? Anakin:yes is not lie. Palpatine in his mind:yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessss!!!!!!! Me:my master has just scream yes?
If Anakin fought Maul at best and thats before he lost his half his body . It would be toss up . I believe Mauls force power is almost as strong as Anakins. He is Mother Talzins son . Mauls Force Power was so strong that he survived death
Unchallenged Mediocrity that would actually make more sense than believing the Mandalorians had so many civil wars it fractured Concordia and turned their homeworld from the Amazon Rainforest into the Sahara Desert. There is a kinda heavy retcon from The Essential Guide to Warfare that says The Republic and Mandalorians had a micro-war around 500 BBY that featured heavy fighting on the planet resulting in The Republic authorizing several Orbital Bombardments that ravaged the planet. Civil wars after may have contributed to the planet looking so fucked up in TCW but I don't believe for a second that the planet doesn't have a few areas of woodlands and habitable biomes. Hell, if The Republic had really been that thorough, they would've committed genocide and been just as evil as the Mandalorians of old...
Star Wars Reading Club, the video's address: How Sheev Palpatine learned Darth Maul survived to the Deep Reactor Chimney's falling from Anakin Skywalker during the Clone Wars? (LEGENDS)
Darth Sidious shouldn't be surprised Maul survived. Maul was trained by Sidious himself, and is the son of Mother Talzin who is on a force sensitive level similar to Yoda, and even Sidious.
There are several references that Sidious considered the loss of Maul as a major setback. Though Dooku was more powerful. Palatine had actually raised Maul and had a familial connection. I don't doubt for a second he would have killed Maul. But he always found a reason not to.
Palpatine was never threatened by the idea of Maul trying to rival him, as that was simply laughable, Maul was never even a full Sith Lord, just a Sith Assassin with no plan or ambition outside of what Sidious put in that empty head of his. The moment Maul tried to contend with the two dominant powers in the Galaxy, the Sith and Jedi he'd be crushed like the bug he was. The problem is that Maul was alone, weak and stupid enough to bring the Jedi down on top of him who could capture him AND get him to talk...which WOULD put Palpatine's identity at risk. That's why he snuffed out that idiot and his brother. Personally I always hated the Maul arc, it literally did nothing for the show but take away from screen time that could have been used to flesh out Dooku, Grievous and other players in the CW that actually MATTERED. Maul coming back didn't change the galactic balance of power, he never beat Obi wan or pushed him to the Dark Side and he got crushed effortlessly. Then they brought him back AGAIN in Rebels to do literally nothing of importance and he died AGAIN at Kenobi's hands effortlessly making Maul's ENTIRE arc just a stupid time waster to get right back to where he ended in Episode I.
I would disagree with that. Failing to have Mandalore take a side in the war was Palpatine's greatest defeat and Maul ended up succeeding where Dooku and Sidious had failed, something that Sidious immediately took advantage of.
@@xtoadsannom6704 not really. Mandalore wasn't the galactic power it used to be. Sidious or Tyranus could have easily just killed the leadership or militarily occupy the planet to make it side against the other. You have to remember the end goals for Sidious and Tyranus didn't care about Mandalore beyond some usefulness it's commandos had and it's ore. The fact Sidious effortlessly crushed Maul's militant faction and later the Empire took over the world occupied Mandalore until just after the battle if Endor kind of undermine Palpatine ever "failing" in regards to mandalore. They were allowed to do their own thing until it suited the powers that be to put an end to it. So Maul didn't really do anything Sidious or Tyranus couldn't have with less effort for longer results.
@JulzBrad 1996 pointing out poor writing and wasted arcs is criticism well earned. That's not a complaint, it's a statement of fact on poor execution from a critical analysis point of view. If that makes you uncomfortable by all means don't read it.
@JulzBrad 1996 Alright, I will elaborate and clarify. I do believe that bringing Maul back was a mistake from both a character and story perspective for a multitude of reasons. This does not mean I don't enjoy aspects of him in isolation. For instance the duel on Tatooine between him and old Ben Kenobi showcases how Maul doesn't change and remains stagnant, which is why he lost so easily to someone who learned, changed and moved on. On it's own, this is actually quite a beautiful and well done scene. The issue with what makes that one scene so good though, is when it is applied to Maul's entire arc as a character retconned from death is detrimental. You have a character who is brought back but cannot kill or maim any significant players in the story, he can't threaten or defeat the Republic or Confederacy and he has to be removed as a factor before Revenge of the Sith takes place but appear again by the Solo timeline and Rebels. This creates an extremely narrow corridor the character can operate in. He can't grow or change, he can't affect the galaxy around him at large, he can't have meaningful interaction other than his own dying with the other main characters that move the story forward. What I dislike is they brought Maul back, but never really thought about the confines that would put his character in. Further the amount of screen time diverted to a character whose arc is essentially flat and going to end nearly the exact same way it did in Ep I could have and should have been used to flesh out the players in the Clone Wars on why they are the way they are. Backstories, episodes on their motivations and the complexities of their characters. That is why I say it was poor writing, because it was poorly conceived and implementing it actively took away from other elements that needed that development. I don't have a bias against Maul, I just find him to be a very one note character that never really does anything because plot wise, he can't be allowed to do anything. He literally ceased being of significance when he was replaced from a story telling standpoint.
@@КонрадЛейк Yes, but this comic is canon. Jennifer Heddler from Clone Wars productiok already told that the comics connected with the TWC tv show, are canon. Comics like this, so the video has that little mistake in the tittle.
Fuck me Plo Koon and other masters vs Maul and Savage would have been amazing to see I’m the clone wars tv show. Wasted potential regardless of how great the show was.
I like seeing this side of ol’ palpy. This is a rare moment that he didnt plan or account for. While he definitely planned for maul’s survival, that was in the context of him killing both qui gon and obiwan. He really and truely believed maul was a dead loose end.
why do people say savage weird. the they say it like savauge. i thought it was said like the normal savage because the dathomerians like to use words like that in their names. like dath Maul and Feral
The TCW continuity was with old EU (Legends) at the time. There were books like this one he spoke of, that was written at the time TCW was airing on TV. Before the continuity change in 2014. TCW TV series is now part of the new Canon, but TCW book series surrounding the TV series, is not.
@@RaoulDuke789 Legends is complex I'm terms of what's Canon, I consider this Canon cuz it's written to ft a material that is no longer Canon within the Legends continuity
Darth Troller That’s awesome. Head canon is always good to get around the complexity on what’s Canon and what’s not. For fans like us who love Star Wars. I do the same with adding a bit of Canon stories with Legends. The ones that can chronologically fit, anyway.
@@RaoulDuke789 headcanon helps when Lucasfilm does a bad job at maintaining continuity, the only times where I give a pass is when the 90s era Legends content like Palpatine returning is retconed by the prequels
TheReturnOfRobertELee because they didn't want it to conflict with there own stories. I call bullshit. Fuckers didn't want people to see that their NuCanon was unadulterated garbage in the presence of Legends material. The hacks that designed this NuCanon have ripped off the EU so much that it's shameful. They're so untalented they're forced to get ideas and concepts from the universe they deemed "too chronologically messy, silly, dark, and long" for their liking. Oh, how this topic makes my blood boil and my soul rage. We lost so much for so little. But anyways, it all comes down to Disney's ego...
Gavin Myatt This is from the Clone Wars comics made when the show was still airing. But Disney said only the show is canon everything else became legends.
@@JohnWilliams-wl9px Disney didn't say that. Jennifer Haddlen from Clone Wars production already told that the comics connected with TCW tv show are canon, so this is as well.
Anakin: Darth Maul has returned
Palp: Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time
Oof
Well..Anakin did found out secret information.
Like, 13 years.
Long time
@Trench Made He was still a Darth during the Clone wars.
“I am most impressed to see that you survived your... injuries!”
How could he not be?
Note hes only "impressed" and that maul suffered "injuries" and not a mutilation, this further goes to show that Sidious really never cared lol
but you try to deceive me you are a RIVALLL
That you have survived*
Luke Saleem I wouldn’t say that, I believe he truly valued Maul as an apprentice, taking him as a child and even going as far as to deceive Plagueis in order to secretly train Maul as a Sith Lord. Also, not sure if canon, but in a comic he explains to Vader that it was a loss when Maul “died”
Sideous: *Uncharacteristically is stunned to silence and shows deep interest in a former Sith like they have history*
Jedi: "Who could the Sith master be?"
I think any random person during that time period would be shocked to hear such a deadly sith was still alive after all those years
You have to remember Naboo was the planet Palpatine was from, and as it was where the incident took place it wouldn't raise many eyebrows for a political leader to seem surprised an assassin had survived on his home planet. (Plus Anakin is talking as a "soldier" in this point in time, no time to ponder things like this)
Darth sidious was impressed with darth mauls survival, and perhaps thought his apprentices were far more powerful than he thought, which explains why he saved Vader despite his body being Complety burnt and limbless, maybe he hoped Vader could heal his injuries and body somehow, very much like Darth maul ' survived his injuries ' after naboo.
I agree . Maul was the first Sith to survive death . By all accounts he should be dead .the man was cut in half) His force strength must of been off the charts , possibly equal to Anikins. Even now at half his Force power ( because lost half his body ) He is still a threat . oh and his Master could not see Mauls future.Or feel his presence through the Force
@@mikeclark1756 his potential was not to anakins level but he was very powerful, Anakin lost all his limbs and was burnt all the way to his lungs but he still was very powerful
lucas wrote it that way because it had to happen, not because of maul lol. You give the movie way too much credit.
Actually he might had wanted Maul as a force sensitive agent.
Havel the Rock grievous took the place of maul. Original maul came back as a cyborg in episode three. But he thought audiences would think it was too outlandish.
Can you imagine Maul just revealed everything when he found out he was replaced 😂😂😂
Gerry McWilliam LMAOOO deadass
Maul aint no snitch
Was maul ever aware of who Sidious really was?
@@STEELGMBL I believe so, just like dooku was
@@STEELGMBL he was raised for nealy 20 years by the asswhole of a dad, yes, he was aware!
Suddenly, he's not half the man he used to be.
Ouch
Darth Vader your so funny Vader you always had a good roast
Darth Vader There’s a shadow looming over anakin
Hmm.... I think it also applys to another person. Don't you think, Lord Vader?
Dad jokes are not funny
The fact that the Palpatine had to intervene personally to stop Maul proves how powerful he really was to be viewed by Palpatine as a potential threat to him and his plan.
Mr Scribbles and yet he was nothing before the dark lord of the sith
I dont think Sidious intially wanted to fight maul, but once he stepped into Maul's throne room and saw Savage, he immediatley knew what was up, and, being very upset by Maul's betrayal, chose to defeat his former apprentice .
chicken Chubbzzz Mh i dont think so - but valid theory - i think he wanted to see if he would be a better fit than dooku or maybe just see what he can do/ how many jedi he can slaughter - but before he got dangerous he intervened - we know maul is no match for vader - i guess dooku was also slightly superior- but maul was still better than any jedi (exept anakin,yoda and mace) - so siddious toyed with him a little
Plans.
@@kingofrivia1248 also Obi-wan was better than maul although not much.
Really wish Palpatine has maneuvered Maul and Anakin into crossing paths.
Anakin tapping deep into the dark side to avenge Qui-Gon would have been exactly what the Chancellor wanted.
It wouldn't really worked. Anakin was really young at the time he was with Qui-Qon Jin so he hardly knew much about him, it's not like Obi Wan where he was his pupil for years to have that perfect blood feud.
@@goodgamesir1750 in the 2003 series it was somewhat like that so they could've made it like that
Qui-Gon appears to Anakin on planet Mortis. Maybe they didn't know each other for long, but it's obvious Qui-Gon left a very big impression on Anakin. Both were also unconventional mavericks who preferred to do things their own way, while Obi-Wan was a bit more by the book and conservative.
Well they almost meat in this comic.
Anakin wouldn’t have gone dark to avenge Qui-Gon. He was more than able to handle such fights. At most Maul would make a comment to temporarily piss him off.
"You're taller than I remember."-Obi Wan Kenobi to Maul.
Maul: *breathes*
Palpatine: Are you challenging me?
Darth Maul: _Starts dancing with all his arms_
Palpatine: *He lives, so be it*
Anakin: "A taskforce will decide his fate."
The Senate: "I am the taskforce!"
In TPM Sidious valued or in a twisted way even 'loved' Maul so much he had great plans with him. But after Maul's supposed death on Naboo, Sidious had to move on with Dooku.
Even Sidious didn't intended or wished it to happen that way, Maul became a obstacle in his grand plan by forming his criminal empire.
Then Maul felt betrayed by the very evil who once was so proud in molded the little zabrak into a loyal, determinated and strong warrior after investing so many years in him.
I thinks its rather sad. In TPM Maul thought he could rule by Sidious' side and becoming so much more and Sidious had his favourite apprentice for a much longer period, before casting him aside for Anakin.
"If not for me......for becoming your own task force." Lmao man these ending always make me smile
I'm guessing he's not shocked in fear, rather just shocked Maul actually made it at all. He was just very unprepared for it and needed time to think
Darth maul could have spilled the beans and palpatine would have had 10,000 Jedi hunting him before his plans were ready so yeah I understand his reaction
Sidious's plans will still go on as planed, even with Maul alive to spill the beans. Although, they won't go by smoothly. Sidious is this close and doesn't want to be slowed down by investigations. He owns the courts and the senate. The Jedi can do nothing because in the end, there would be no proof. The average politician doesn't care much for the Jedi's knowledge of Sith lords. It comes off as a belief system to them. While the Jedi them self's are not looking to good anyway, due to propaganda. Maul would just be an annoying insect getting in the way of Sidious achiving his goals.
@@RaoulDuke789 I never said his plan wouldn't work It would just be more difficult
dragon slayer god. Well if Maul spilled the beans about Sidious's plan. Sidious would just go through with Order 66 if he felt that there was no other way out. Sure it would not go as smoothly as the Jedi would know whats going on but having the Clones turn on the Jedi in the middle of the War would cause chaos. The Clones and Jedi would be killing each other while the Separatists would still be fighting them too. With Sidious's grand plan revealed he would go into hiding on Separatist planets and attack Kamino and destroy the cloning facilities as there would be no point to use Clones anymore because a new Chancellor would be appointed and Sidious would no longer have command over them. So Sidious, Dooku and Grevious would continue the war against the Republic but Sidious would have a harder time trying to become ruler of the Galaxy.
I liked legends better as it showed that he was more a man and not a perfect overlord with plans in plans and plans. Errors can be made!
I have to agree FastPaw
Love that minute comparison that makes a huge difference in the charismatic language of Legends 🥰
He wasn't perfect in Clone wars either lol
It saddens me that Maul never got to fight Anakin, and they nearly did during the seige of Mandalore and then he had to go to Coruscant, and then as Vader he nearly did in Rebels but Kanan had to yeet Maul off a cliff
@@noahdavidson8733 hopefully
"Yeet" 😂😂😂😂
Grivous is the same, general never use lightsaber against Skywalker
Revenge of the sith, he never will fight against maul since 2013
I think Palpatine was proud by Darth Maul but when he became a threat he dealt with him. It’s the way of the Sith kill everyone standing in your way.
"God damn it...now_I_ have to do something about this. Book a trip to Mandalore for me"
That's my favorite "If not for me..." in a while lmao
“In this video exposeeeeyyyy”
It would off been really good if we got to see anakin and maul fight each other on screen
to be blunt with it when he heard that maul was alive he knew things might go out of hand and everything he worked so hard on might get undone by him if he was left alone so in that moment he basically was in panic mode and trying not to let it show on his face
Your voice makes this 1000x times better
I wish Anakin faught Maul in the show.
Ravathiel he would’ve in the Mandalorian siege arc had he not got called to Coruscant
@@jordanbartley9672 no Vs Grevious either .. :/
@@Ravathiel That's because of a line in ROTS that implied Grevious and Anakin had never met face to face.
@@PepicWalrus exactly, it's implied so you can argue that though.
Grevious' body is different than the body in The Clone Wars.
"I expected you to be Taller"
could have been implied "Icut your ass down last time, your upgrades are not impressive"
Ravathiel I read somewhere that the show creators had a rule that Anakin and Grievous weren’t allowed to meet face to face for line to make sense.
Maul: reappears
Palpatine: surprised pikachu face
Maul force healed himself during the fall
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rare sight of ol' sheevy not seeing something coming.
Dave Faloni and Lucas: Lets bring Maul back!
Palps: ...I did not forsee this.
( In all seriousness, I really enjoy the moments in the old EU where Sideous had his plans hovering just on the edge of failure. It makes his whole master plan feel just that more impressive. Bits from this comic, the Fives/Order 66 arc, and the Labyrinth of Evil/RotS novelization really did a good job with portraying the scope of it all. )
This is something that could have been worked in CW.
There’s a good reason why Sidious is obsessed with chasing Maul. If the Jedi capture Maul alive they could get him to expose Sidious’ true identity. Maul was the only threat to the Sith Lord’s plans.
He never knew like grievous palpatine is the sith lord, he discover in season 7 in order 66
Maul was not the only threat but Talzin, Savage, and the other Dathormirians as well as Yoda, Mace, Dooku, Or Anakin could of been possible threats.
He could hear maul screaming KENOBIIIIIII!!!!!! all the way from Coruscant. He also had to go get his hearing checked that same day
Excellent video.! 👍
Strange Sidious did not feel Maul in the force
Yeah, especially when seemingly everyone else did. But I prefer it like that, it's hilarious that the guy who was moving all the pieces on the board was the last to be informed of a new piece coming in.
Lol love your little quotes at the end Palpatine was a once man task force he choked ao many Mandolarians like they were nothing then whipped some Zabrak ass
Hello mate. Enjoyed this video as always!
Bruh really
@MG16NCP stfu bitch
Maul a beast
😈
Wow. So even an all powerful Sith Lord can feel fear. That's so crazy.
@@ZaZi-Zeta01
True. But even Sith Lords can lose power over their own fear and succumb to it.
@@ZaZi-Zeta01
Sure I guess.
Mr.ScaryPasta well he also feared Yoda and Windu
Mr.ScaryPasta didn’t Palpatine tell the story about Darth Pleguse the wise that he feared losing his powers?
Can you answer what did palpatine do to maul when he defeated him on mandalor
Alot of people argue that Maul was and will never truly be considered a Sith lord, and is just a Sith assassin.
To me Maul is a beast of a Sith lord.
I can see why this is legends
So would that mean if Maul came in to kill sidious without him know he was alive. Would he have beaten sidious
Too bad he cannot sense Sidious.
Maybe . Because Maul is cloaked to Sidious. Plagueis was almost killed by assassins . It would have to be by stealth . one on one Sidious wins every time . Maul has lost half hi force strength.
His original reaction to Mual’s survival is interesting but i wonder what emotions and thoughts were going through his head. Clearly in his own twisted way he cared somewhat for Mual similar to how a father feels pride for a son. Mual was Darth Sidious’s first apprentice. That would be impossible for anyone teacher even a Sith Lord to not feel something for their first student. Darth Sidious did not have any love for Mual however. Darth Sidious most likely wanted Mual for some kinda of experiments in the Force and possibly other and darker reasons. If Mual had not escaped he would have had a fate far worse then death.
Did the Light Side somehow cloak Maul's existence from Sidious's perception..? I mean Maul cried out when his brother was cut down, he wasn't completely devoid of feelings..? In some ways Maul is the thread woven through and around both Light and Dark.. mostly dark but with glint of light, again like the Prime Jedi mosaic?
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@Fred Gusta one taken by the jedi other the sith
Using your feelings is the dark side tho
Something definitely cloaked Maul, yeah, because seemingly every other Force wielder with a history with either Maul or Savage felt that something bad was coming as Savage got closer to finding Maul.
Lol definitely left a like for "becoming my own task force"! Palps did just that, an old man taking on 2 (magically) healthy Dathomir males. To this day never will understand why Obi Wan and Anakin decided to hop on Savage's back and punch him in the face when it's 2 on one and they had they're lightsabers drawn! (EP of Savage's attempted kidnap turned murder)
Sidious had raised maul for 20+ years, there was no way in hell darth maul did not recognize the sith lords face. Maul probably did not tell of the grand plan because, if he were to defeat sidious and dooku, the clones would most likely fall into maul's hands. Darth maul with a mighty army like the clones would be almost unstoppable.
Anakin:maul is alive.
Palpatine:what is that true?
Anakin:yes is not lie.
Palpatine in his mind:yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessss!!!!!!!
Me:my master has just scream yes?
But in the clone wars I think Palpatine saw the footage of Savage opress and wasn’t even shocked when he sensed Maul on mandalore
By the time of Palpatine's visit to Mandalore, he had known that Maul was alive for quite awhile. This is happening shortly after the end of season 4.
imagine they caught maul and he spilled everything
Some people don’t believe that TCW is also part of the Legends continuity
The tv show is canon
Also the comics of TCW, it was already told by Clone Wars productions.
Ultrayamcha Returns you obviously didn’t understand my statement
Ultrayamcha Returns the show is part of both continuities
Almost at 300k subs
If Anakin fought Darth Maul, the former Sith would’ve died permanently
That would be another High Ground for Anakin to try.
If Anakin fought Maul at best and thats before he lost his half his body . It would be toss up . I believe Mauls force power is almost as strong as Anakins. He is Mother Talzins son . Mauls Force Power was so strong that he survived death
I wouldn't put The Clone Wars or its tie in material under Legends simply because none of it fits with other clone wars material in the timeline.
Gotta thank Filoni on that mess.
@@RaoulDuke789 Don't worry guys! The faction in the show is just governing one section of the planet! The rest is just how you remember it!
Unchallenged Mediocrity that would actually make more sense than believing the Mandalorians had so many civil wars it fractured Concordia and turned their homeworld from the Amazon Rainforest into the Sahara Desert. There is a kinda heavy retcon from The Essential Guide to Warfare that says The Republic and Mandalorians had a micro-war around 500 BBY that featured heavy fighting on the planet resulting in The Republic authorizing several Orbital Bombardments that ravaged the planet. Civil wars after may have contributed to the planet looking so fucked up in TCW but I don't believe for a second that the planet doesn't have a few areas of woodlands and habitable biomes. Hell, if The Republic had really been that thorough, they would've committed genocide and been just as evil as the Mandalorians of old...
Palpatine was just worried Darth Maul might get a leg up on the situation. ;3
Sidious has to tie up loose ends
great video as always '
Star Wars Reading Club, the video's address: How Sheev Palpatine learned Darth Maul survived to the Deep Reactor Chimney's falling from Anakin Skywalker during the Clone Wars? (LEGENDS)
What is the name of this graffic novel?
I have failed you. I was late
“Guess it’s time to kill Maul since there can only be two..” -Palpatine
Obi-Wan and Anakin: “what?”
Palpatine: “what?”
Still one of the absolute top TCW fights
Survival of the fiercest.
Darth Sidious shouldn't be surprised Maul survived. Maul was trained by Sidious himself, and is the son of Mother Talzin who is on a force sensitive level similar to Yoda, and even Sidious.
Darth mual lives
You should do a supercut of all your endings
From Anakin? Ani and Maul never met.
Maul almost ran over Anakin in TPM. I'd imagine if they ever fought, Maul would make a snide comment about it.
Maul knew about the Small Boi Anakin.
Who thinks Maul should've fought Plo Koon there?
Did palps discover that maul died in hands of kenobi in rebels?
Since when is this legends?
You Kno what I never got, how did they know Darth maul's name if he never even spoke to them?
Anyone know the intro music? Transformers???
Any ep9 content in the works?
There are several references that Sidious considered the loss of Maul as a major setback. Though Dooku was more powerful. Palatine had actually raised Maul and had a familial connection. I don't doubt for a second he would have killed Maul. But he always found a reason not to.
JasCotton He better have saw that as a set back because if you raise someone to be a killer and their death isn’t, well you just wasted your time lol
Love Star Wars definitely excited for clone wars season 7
Palpatine was never threatened by the idea of Maul trying to rival him, as that was simply laughable, Maul was never even a full Sith Lord, just a Sith Assassin with no plan or ambition outside of what Sidious put in that empty head of his. The moment Maul tried to contend with the two dominant powers in the Galaxy, the Sith and Jedi he'd be crushed like the bug he was. The problem is that Maul was alone, weak and stupid enough to bring the Jedi down on top of him who could capture him AND get him to talk...which WOULD put Palpatine's identity at risk. That's why he snuffed out that idiot and his brother.
Personally I always hated the Maul arc, it literally did nothing for the show but take away from screen time that could have been used to flesh out Dooku, Grievous and other players in the CW that actually MATTERED. Maul coming back didn't change the galactic balance of power, he never beat Obi wan or pushed him to the Dark Side and he got crushed effortlessly. Then they brought him back AGAIN in Rebels to do literally nothing of importance and he died AGAIN at Kenobi's hands effortlessly making Maul's ENTIRE arc just a stupid time waster to get right back to where he ended in Episode I.
I would disagree with that. Failing to have Mandalore take a side in the war was Palpatine's greatest defeat and Maul ended up succeeding where Dooku and Sidious had failed, something that Sidious immediately took advantage of.
@@xtoadsannom6704 not really. Mandalore wasn't the galactic power it used to be. Sidious or Tyranus could have easily just killed the leadership or militarily occupy the planet to make it side against the other. You have to remember the end goals for Sidious and Tyranus didn't care about Mandalore beyond some usefulness it's commandos had and it's ore. The fact Sidious effortlessly crushed Maul's militant faction and later the Empire took over the world occupied Mandalore until just after the battle if Endor kind of undermine Palpatine ever "failing" in regards to mandalore. They were allowed to do their own thing until it suited the powers that be to put an end to it.
So Maul didn't really do anything Sidious or Tyranus couldn't have with less effort for longer results.
@JulzBrad 1996 pointing out poor writing and wasted arcs is criticism well earned. That's not a complaint, it's a statement of fact on poor execution from a critical analysis point of view.
If that makes you uncomfortable by all means don't read it.
@JulzBrad 1996 Alright, I will elaborate and clarify.
I do believe that bringing Maul back was a mistake from both a character and story perspective for a multitude of reasons. This does not mean I don't enjoy aspects of him in isolation. For instance the duel on Tatooine between him and old Ben Kenobi showcases how Maul doesn't change and remains stagnant, which is why he lost so easily to someone who learned, changed and moved on. On it's own, this is actually quite a beautiful and well done scene. The issue with what makes that one scene so good though, is when it is applied to Maul's entire arc as a character retconned from death is detrimental. You have a character who is brought back but cannot kill or maim any significant players in the story, he can't threaten or defeat the Republic or Confederacy and he has to be removed as a factor before Revenge of the Sith takes place but appear again by the Solo timeline and Rebels. This creates an extremely narrow corridor the character can operate in. He can't grow or change, he can't affect the galaxy around him at large, he can't have meaningful interaction other than his own dying with the other main characters that move the story forward. What I dislike is they brought Maul back, but never really thought about the confines that would put his character in. Further the amount of screen time diverted to a character whose arc is essentially flat and going to end nearly the exact same way it did in Ep I could have and should have been used to flesh out the players in the Clone Wars on why they are the way they are. Backstories, episodes on their motivations and the complexities of their characters. That is why I say it was poor writing, because it was poorly conceived and implementing it actively took away from other elements that needed that development.
I don't have a bias against Maul, I just find him to be a very one note character that never really does anything because plot wise, he can't be allowed to do anything. He literally ceased being of significance when he was replaced from a story telling standpoint.
This is Canon for me!
Its just a title. Legends doesnt make it irrelevant. It's still lore.
Btw the new trilogy is considered "Legends" by many fans so...
@@КонрадЛейк Yes, but this comic is canon. Jennifer Heddler from Clone Wars productiok already told that the comics connected with the TWC tv show, are canon. Comics like this, so the video has that little mistake in the tittle.
I think this story could be use as star wars infinities storie
Also wondered if he knew about maul living
Fuck me Plo Koon and other masters vs Maul and Savage would have been amazing to see I’m the clone wars tv show. Wasted potential regardless of how great the show was.
Make longer videos!!
I left a like for *becoming your own task force*
But. When do the rise of skywalker videos start?
Love the channel. Don't have to read.👌👌👌👌👊👊👊
Mind blown
LOL @ "task force" !!!
Well obviously he was able use the force to sense him.
I just want to know how the fuck maul eats if he doesnt have a bottom half
Jedi master Plow Poon
Nice
I like seeing this side of ol’ palpy. This is a rare moment that he didnt plan or account for. While he definitely planned for maul’s survival, that was in the context of him killing both qui gon and obiwan. He really and truely believed maul was a dead loose end.
Ryan Wilson one of the most effective methods of fighting a tactical and methodical enemy is using chaos as a dangerous but rewarding resource...
why do people say savage weird. the they say it like savauge. i thought it was said like the normal savage because the dathomerians like to use words like that in their names. like dath Maul and Feral
Am I the only one who wonders how Darth maul poops considering his butt is at the bottom of a metal pit on naboo ?
I'm just wondering how he survived from going splat on surface.
@@RaoulDuke789 we out here asking the real questions
@spider jesus So are we.
How is this Legends? Maul wasn't alive in Legends, there was a fake Maul tho, but this is completely in line with TCW continuity
The TCW continuity was with old EU (Legends) at the time. There were books like this one he spoke of, that was written at the time TCW was airing on TV. Before the continuity change in 2014. TCW TV series is now part of the new Canon, but TCW book series surrounding the TV series, is not.
@@RaoulDuke789 Legends is complex I'm terms of what's Canon, I consider this Canon cuz it's written to ft a material that is no longer Canon within the Legends continuity
Darth Troller That’s awesome. Head canon is always good to get around the complexity on what’s Canon and what’s not. For fans like us who love Star Wars. I do the same with adding a bit of Canon stories with Legends. The ones that can chronologically fit, anyway.
@@RaoulDuke789 headcanon helps when Lucasfilm does a bad job at maintaining continuity, the only times where I give a pass is when the 90s era Legends content like Palpatine returning is retconed by the prequels
This should be canon
Is canon, it was confirmed by Jennifer Heddle.
Let's just hope Anakin get the upper *legs* against Maul.
Boooooo
how come they stopped making legends novels and legends comics
TheReturnOfRobertELee because they didn't want it to conflict with there own stories. I call bullshit. Fuckers didn't want people to see that their NuCanon was unadulterated garbage in the presence of Legends material. The hacks that designed this NuCanon have ripped off the EU so much that it's shameful. They're so untalented they're forced to get ideas and concepts from the universe they deemed "too chronologically messy, silly, dark, and long" for their liking. Oh, how this topic makes my blood boil and my soul rage. We lost so much for so little. But anyways, it all comes down to Disney's ego...
So Darth Maul survived in Legends to? I thought that was just in Canon?
Gavin Myatt This is from the Clone Wars comics made when the show was still airing. But Disney said only the show is canon everything else became legends.
Because of tcw.
@@JohnWilliams-wl9px Disney didn't say that. Jennifer Haddlen from Clone Wars production already told that the comics connected with TCW tv show are canon, so this is as well.
How is this legends? I thought the Clone Wars comics were Canon?
Only the Clone Wars series is canon
@@JanPeverell No son of dathmoir comic is also canon.
@@JanPeverell Not even close to true.
@@darthpryce Comics taking place during the Clone Wars or adapting TCW episodes are canon if released after the reboot. Is that better?
@@JanPeverell Yes makes sense now. Thanks.