The main thing about the physical part of suboxone withdrawal is mental. You can literally think yourself into withdrawal. The anxiety causes withdrawal, and being afraid of not having that crutch. Now that im 160 days off, a lot of times, im just blah, and not much motivation sometimes.
good talk I agree with you about how some people need life long matinence. some can quit and some cant. Im from new zealand and maintenance services are a little different. Anyways keep up the good work its nice to hear from a doctor who has actually been thru opiate addiction :-D
Suboxone wd is mainly mental. I jumped at 2 mgs and only had minor wds for a week. Worst part was the restless legs and insomia. It did take a month or so to start sleeping right again. Too many people read the horror stories about sub wd and have a really hard time quiting. I also worked and took care of 2 kids while going through wd. If you really want to quit you can.
What would you recommend for a "Non Addict"? I'm a Chronic Pain patient and I need Pain relief and Suboxone may be a life long treatment. But, due to the "Opiate Crisis" My Pain Doc kept lowering My Oxycontin and Fentanyl, so I got fed up and decided to stop it All! I don't want to depend on Suboxone or any Opiate for pain relief but nothing else works. I'm not Pain free on 2 mg. Suboxone every 12 hours but I have no choice. This isn't living and I'm being punished for doing nothing wrong. Never took more than prescribed. No an addict! But being on Opiate Pain Meds for 25 years, I don't think My brain will ever heal or produce Dopamine or anything else that My body should know after this long. I don't see you replying to Anyone who has commented, so I don't expect a reply. 👎🧠🤯
Maybe some can get off and stay off. I know since I was a kid I have had bad nerve problems and just was total on edge. I spent over 17 years trying to find my balance. I didn't want to really stay fucked up, just calmer and able to deal with normal shit and from years and years of drugging and court systems, jail, stealing on and on... never wanted to be or do any of that but, the shit I was taking was the only thing I thought I could do. One day I was crying to a friend and feeling like a suicide and he gave me a number to a sub clinic. Next month will be my 3rd year sober, remembering and valuing everyday and taking and accepting responsibility. I've never been "fucked up" on sub's and they have totally changed my life. Trust me though, nobody should ever just give this up and quit taking it, it will make you an insomnia ridden shaking crying mess. For those who know their body, knows sometimes there's no wand, sometimes we need to accept we are addicts for life, but, we can control it.
Sorry to hear that you have given up all hope on being off of dope. It can be done, and it's an amazing feeling waking up without having to chase a pill or fill a script.
cd mc I quit taking it after 8 years of every day use (prescribed). I am on day 67 today. I sleep 8 hours every night and have since about day 35. I dont shake. I play soccer. Walk my 80lb dog 1 hour every day. I have gained back much needed weight. I laugh, cry, and feel GREAT. I respect your feelings about Subs and how they have helped you. But please dont make statements that suggest YOUR experience will be EVERYONES experience. Because thats what you and many others tend to do. Im sorry you were not able to get back to feeling good once trying to stop (assuming you ever tried). It isnt easy. But your assesment of what is in store for people who choose to quit is completely incorrect and reflects only your own fears.
Joel Albertson Love what you wrote. Im on day 67 off the stuff. I dont hate subs. They did get me out of the loop of obsession and craziness that has become my life. But I never would have started taking them had I thought I could never stop. After 8 years on em I am 67 days clean today and feel great.
I would choose Suboxone over Opioids any day of the week. Never having to worry where my next pill or how I can make money to get the next pill would be a GOD SEND. One Doctor in my Area prescribes Subonone. That is information I pulled from the Internet, not a known fact. How should I go about getting Suboxone? I have an HIV Doctor and a Pain Management Doctor, which should I ask for Suboxone?
I experienced the exact opposite then what you described with people coming off of Oxycodone. I was incapacitated, completely bedridden for 6 weeks withdrawing from Buprenorphine. I'm not saying Oxycodone or any other short acting opiate withdrawal is a walk in the park, either. In my experience the shorter the half life the more acute the withdrawal but with a significantly less acute withdrawal phase. Mind you I'm not an advocate of people not being on anything. I am frustrated with the lack of resources, understanding, and compassion in treating this disease. If it's necessary for an individual to take Suboxone for the rest of their lives it should be accepted instead of stigmatized. This is a chronic illness, but too many healthcare professionals whether their uneducated or jaded from years of seeing many suffering individuals have zero tolerance and compassion and avoid patients in need of help. I believe the US should be the world leaders in addiction medicine and pioneer new ways to help individuals struggling with addiction.
Methadone detox is a killer. I quit at 60 mg and thought i would die. I'm 16 days in on a suboxone detox, i don't feel great yet but i don't feel like walking death. I tapered this time and it really helped.
i was on methadone 4yrs quit around 80 mgs i think, that was 15 years ago, and wd was hell couldnt do anything but lay there for months zero energy for months took almost a year to recover, if you made it through that you can do anything ... Best wishes and God bless....
I went to Florida to get off soboxone about 45 days ago. they had me completely of in 8 days a corse they gave me medication to help me through it. long story short, I'm home and have mild semptoms and I'm on a blood pressure med because my blood pressure has been high. right know though I'm really struggling with NO ENERGY! I'm taking vitamins but I'm feeling lost I guess you could say. I have a husband and two kids to tend to but it's hard.
Sub detox is NOTHING compared to coming off of Oxycontin. Not even close. I get the jitters in my upper body. Arms are bad trying to sleep. Sub detox has been uncomfy, but no sweats, no shits, and no being bed ridden.
Very educational. I am a counselor & specialize in working with those with a substance use disorder. I appreciate your videos & knowledge you have shared.
I completely disagree, from my experiences suboxone wd's are by FAAAAAAAAR the worst! I have come off of nearly every opiate you can imagine and nothing compares to suboxone as it last soooooo much longer than other opiates. You are down for about 3 weeks coming off suboxone, with oxycontin you will be fine after 4 days or so.
last name I agree. Suboxone WD lasts so long that its tough to keep track of your progress. Oxy withdrawal sucks, but it is OVER in a week to 10 days. Ill take 10 days of misery over 2-3 months of lethargy, insomnia, etc...
My last time was coming off a 6yr Fentynal addiction. I went from morphine to Fent. I too had to be admitted to a locked psych ward. I relapsed about as soon as they let me out. 2yrs on suboxone now. Still have lots of shame. But coming off of Suboxone is nothing near Morphine or Fent or Oxy. Good work Doc. Suboxone has saved my life thus far.
Subutex withdrawals are a million times worse than any illegal drug I did! The reason is because when you are on drugs you do different drugs and different amounts then have some days where you are broke and don't do anything at all! When you go to a clinic you usually go there for years and continually take the meds and the same amount so your body gets very used to it!
Fear is a good thing, in the beginning & i watched this i felt the WD's were gonna last for months, BUT im on day 32 now & things are looking up!! I can sleep most nights & im back to work. Just the occassional bouts of depression / malaise.. But im doing IT...
I agree suboxone is not the worst. What worked for me(I do not recommend this since it can lead right back into heavy use because we are addicts , but I offer it for what it is worth) is lowering yourself to 2mg. Then taking a VERY small shot of dope the day after your last sub. For me there was no withdraw to follow, just the regular mental things you have to get over with time
My dr. Told me when I first started subs that a lot of ppl who have been addicts for years will always need a small dose to maintain. I've never slipped and never tested dirty or been short on my count. I started 12-24-11 on 24mg now I'm on 4 mg . Now my dr.acts like he wants me to taper 1mg a month till I'm off, but I know if I go off this med I will use again. If I could even stay on this 4 mg dose I would be fine. Why did he say Ii may always need it and now wants me off? .
I have been on Subox, for 15 years. I can not stop using it because the withdrawal is too hard to go through. I have a neck injury from the military and got addicted to the pain killers, and after a living hell from that they put me on Subox to kick the opiates, but I still needed pain med's, so they kept me on Subox. I live a great life except for if I miss a DR. apt. and can't get my strip's, or if the insurance co. wants a prior auth. then I run out of it and go into withdrawal's. They are pure hell in every sense of the word. Far worse than the opiate withdrawal's I went through from Vicodin. I live in fear all of the time worrying that I could run out. I get 90 strips a month and they are enough to last me 3 month's but the DR. and insurance co. said I can not horde the drug or I can be arrested over it, but if I don't and run out, then I am in huge trouble. I don't want to have the Dr. cut me down to one strip a day, because I would run the risk of running out. I can only guess how many other people have traded one addiction for another like I have with the Suboxone. Life is NOT good if I don't have them, and I have to live this way for the rest of my life. NOT COOL. At 55 my life is pretty much done, having to live on this stuff, also because it makes you into a zombie after 10 years on it.
God all your withdrawals n watching others in withdrawals n seeing people on subs n what ever there on n all you’ve seen n know n the shit life n misery in the past on drugs n your a very good dr , my biggest question is why the hell do you need meetings ,
Susan Webb The meetings are a place for understanding, relating to one another, and most importantly- SUPPORT! It's a place to share your daily struggles/stressors - and NOT feel judged. It's a place where you can see that, "you are not alone"
Don’t get me wrong I do know n understand a lot of recovering addicts need different forms of help n what ever works for them ,is great, but there is a small minority of people like me I truely believe withdraw n just get on with life n no longer bothered about drugs n are cued , no drug cravings ever n for instance for me if I was to think about the word drugs , only things that comes to my mind is total misery on drugs n then there’s the withdrawals , a total turn off n so bloody great full to be normal again
It's not that bad. Over hyped. Taper off within 2 weeks worked for me. Simple really. Do you want freedom or ball and chain ? Need a crutch ??? Too weak to face life without being high ? Choices it's all CHOICES. Man up
@@SuboxDoc really ? I have dozens of people who are high on my subs everyday. Yes also in prison they snort Suboxone. It's better than herion high. Yes doctors are clueless. My old doctor never believed me either. , Yes Suboxone gets us high. Your really BRAINWASHED to think it doesn't get us high ?? Really ? Wow all that education, yet de y simple FACT TRUTH. Suboxone is also more powerfull than morephene I'm sure. Many people get high on it , also a great pain killer. I have 3 blown discs protruding onto nerves and once I stopped take Suboxone I feel pain daily now. Suboxone gets us high. Most addicts on subs will deny , lie , they dont want to be known as take it to get high. Yes it gets most people high. It's a powerfull drug
It's just the big drug company want your money. I went into rehab 3 years ago. I was kicking a 18 years of pain pills. Then on methadone the last 6 years. You don't need 24 or 32 mg. of suboxone. I took a lot of pain meds and do not fill I needed to be on 24 mg.of suboxone. they sent me home with 90 8mg. of suboxone and Valium.and soma and Lunesta.I fill they just wanted me to come back and detox from all the drugs they sent me home on. I wish I did my homework before i went to rehab. I'm off of all pain meds now. good luck to all.
Your truth is going to be wherever you find it, I found mine in NA. It's not a cult, religion, or brainwashing. It's a group of people that have learned how to live with an addiction that left untreated will kill. The Doctor is offering his treatment, he may be right, you may be able to feel less pain and discomfort if you want to buy your dope from him every month for the rest of your life. But when you quit, you will still be left with the disease. So common sense says find someone who has found a way to stay clean without dope. I found people in NA that have figure it out, thank God I had the sense to listen.
This video should be listed as an advertisement.... On top of that, this person, claiming to be a Doctor (I hope he doesn't have a license but my fear is that he does) admits he was a failure at stopping using in a program that has millions of addicts recovering dope free. The scary thing is that he is promoting a drug that he claims to prescribe, stating that he makers of Suboxone pay him nothing. Sure, those Doctors that prescribe Suboxone don't need help from the makers, they have a built in monthly income from every patient. Anywhere from $75 to $150 from up to 150 "patients" per month.. That's between $11,000 to $22,000 per month to spend 15 minutes tops with whomever has the cash. Of course there is a bias. Suboxone, is simply a way to placate the masses after they have been allowed to become addicted to the drug makers other money makers. It's a built in ATM for the Doctors office.
The main thing about the physical part of suboxone withdrawal is mental. You can literally think yourself into withdrawal. The anxiety causes withdrawal, and being afraid of not having that crutch.
Now that im 160 days off, a lot of times, im just blah, and not much motivation sometimes.
good talk I agree with you about how some people need life long matinence. some can quit and some cant. Im from new zealand and maintenance services are a little different. Anyways keep up the good work its nice to hear from a doctor who has actually been thru opiate addiction :-D
Suboxone wd is mainly mental. I jumped at 2 mgs and only had minor wds for a week. Worst part was the restless legs and insomia. It did take a month or so to start sleeping right again. Too many people read the horror stories about sub wd and have a really hard time quiting. I also worked and took care of 2 kids while going through wd. If you really want to quit you can.
bolenz1 I agree.am 62,40years of polytoxicomany,still alive(?) Yes,it is hard,but possible.
I wish you were my doctor.
This dude knows his shit. Subox withdrawal, if done properly, if a cake walk compared to methadone or H...
What would you recommend for a "Non Addict"? I'm a Chronic Pain patient and I need Pain relief and Suboxone may be a life long treatment. But, due to the "Opiate Crisis" My Pain Doc kept lowering My Oxycontin and Fentanyl, so I got fed up and decided to stop it All! I don't want to depend on Suboxone or any Opiate for pain relief but nothing else works. I'm not Pain free on 2 mg. Suboxone every 12 hours but I have no choice. This isn't living and I'm being punished for doing nothing wrong. Never took more than prescribed. No an addict! But being on Opiate Pain Meds for 25 years, I don't think My brain will ever heal or produce Dopamine or anything else that My body should know after this long. I don't see you replying to Anyone who has commented, so I don't expect a reply. 👎🧠🤯
Suboxone withdrawal does last well over a month and that's just
Physical
Maybe some can get off and stay off. I know since I was a kid I have had bad nerve problems and just was total on edge. I spent over 17 years trying to find my balance. I didn't want to really stay fucked up, just calmer and able to deal with normal shit and from years and years of drugging and court systems, jail, stealing on and on... never wanted to be or do any of that but, the shit I was taking was the only thing I thought I could do. One day I was crying to a friend and feeling like a suicide and he gave me a number to a sub clinic. Next month will be my 3rd year sober, remembering and valuing everyday and taking and accepting responsibility. I've never been "fucked up" on sub's and they have totally changed my life. Trust me though, nobody should ever just give this up and quit taking it, it will make you an insomnia ridden shaking crying mess. For those who know their body, knows sometimes there's no wand, sometimes we need to accept we are addicts for life, but, we can control it.
Sorry to hear that you have given up all hope on being off of dope. It can be done, and it's an amazing feeling waking up without having to chase a pill or fill a script.
Joel Albertson
Hi Joel
is Aleena your sister?? Either way God bless you.
cd mc I quit taking it after 8 years of every day use (prescribed). I am on day 67 today. I sleep 8 hours every night and have since about day 35. I dont shake. I play soccer. Walk my 80lb dog 1 hour every day. I have gained back much needed weight. I laugh, cry, and feel GREAT. I respect your feelings about Subs and how they have helped you. But please dont make statements that suggest YOUR experience will be EVERYONES experience. Because thats what you and many others tend to do. Im sorry you were not able to get back to feeling good once trying to stop (assuming you ever tried). It isnt easy. But your assesment of what is in store for people who choose to quit is completely incorrect and reflects only your own fears.
Joel Albertson Love what you wrote. Im on day 67 off the stuff. I dont hate subs. They did get me out of the loop of obsession and craziness that has become my life. But I never would have started taking them had I thought I could never stop. After 8 years on em I am 67 days clean today and feel great.
cd mc Anybody can get off of suboxone. You will feel normal after a certain period of time! The clinic just wants your money!
I would choose Suboxone over Opioids any day of the week. Never having to worry where my next pill or how I can make money to get the next pill would be a GOD SEND. One Doctor in my Area prescribes Subonone. That is information I pulled from the Internet, not a known fact. How should I go about getting Suboxone? I have an HIV Doctor and a Pain Management Doctor, which should I ask for Suboxone?
I experienced the exact opposite then what you described with people coming off of Oxycodone. I was incapacitated, completely bedridden for 6 weeks withdrawing from Buprenorphine. I'm not saying Oxycodone or any other short acting opiate withdrawal is a walk in the park, either. In my experience the shorter the half life the more acute the withdrawal but with a significantly less acute withdrawal phase. Mind you I'm not an advocate of people not being on anything. I am frustrated with the lack of resources, understanding, and compassion in treating this disease. If it's necessary for an individual to take Suboxone for the rest of their lives it should be accepted instead of stigmatized. This is a chronic illness, but too many healthcare professionals whether their uneducated or jaded from years of seeing many suffering individuals have zero tolerance and compassion and avoid patients in need of help. I believe the US should be the world leaders in addiction medicine and pioneer new ways to help individuals struggling with addiction.
I had to work kicking 90mg Methadone that was hell on earth could not sleep for the first ten days it took 3 months to feel better.
Methadone detox is a killer. I quit at 60 mg and thought i would die. I'm 16 days in on a suboxone detox, i don't feel great yet but i don't feel like walking death. I tapered this time and it really helped.
i was on methadone 4yrs quit around 80 mgs i think, that was 15 years ago, and wd was hell couldnt do anything but lay there for months zero energy for months took almost a year to recover, if you made it through that you can do anything ... Best wishes and God bless....
I went to Florida to get off soboxone about 45 days ago. they had me completely of in 8 days a corse they gave me medication to help me through it. long story short, I'm home and have mild semptoms and I'm on a blood pressure med because my blood pressure has been high. right know though I'm really struggling with NO ENERGY! I'm taking vitamins but I'm feeling lost I guess you could say. I have a husband and two kids to tend to but it's hard.
Good luck Lori, I hope that every day is a bit easier for you to care for yourself and your family.
Sub detox is NOTHING compared to coming off of Oxycontin. Not even close. I get the jitters in my upper body. Arms are bad trying to sleep. Sub detox has been uncomfy, but no sweats, no shits, and no being bed ridden.
Very educational. I am a counselor & specialize in working with those with a substance use disorder. I appreciate your videos & knowledge you have shared.
I completely disagree, from my experiences suboxone wd's are by FAAAAAAAAR the worst! I have come off of nearly every opiate you can imagine and nothing compares to suboxone as it last soooooo much longer than other opiates. You are down for about 3 weeks coming off suboxone, with oxycontin you will be fine after 4 days or so.
last name I agree. Suboxone WD lasts so long that its tough to keep track of your progress. Oxy withdrawal sucks, but it is OVER in a week to 10 days. Ill take 10 days of misery over 2-3 months of lethargy, insomnia, etc...
you need to taper slowly. then withdrawal is truly minimal
My last time was coming off a 6yr Fentynal addiction. I went from morphine to Fent. I too had to be admitted to a locked psych ward. I relapsed about as soon as they let me out. 2yrs on suboxone now. Still have lots of shame. But coming off of Suboxone is nothing near Morphine or Fent or Oxy. Good work Doc. Suboxone has saved my life thus far.
i done a methadone,suboxone detox and was clean within the year.i was a heroin addicted for 15 years.i had tried many times before to no avail.
Highly depressive withdrawl. Had insomnia 30 nights.
Don't stop cold turkey ! www.suboxonetalk.com/stopping-buprenorphine-in-three-steps/
A suboxone doctor never wants you to quit
Subutex withdrawals are a million times worse than any illegal drug I did! The reason is because when you are on drugs you do different drugs and different amounts then have some days where you are broke and don't do anything at all! When you go to a clinic you usually go there for years and continually take the meds and the same amount so your body gets very used to it!
Fentanyl is the worst opiate, the withdrawals are crazy...
Fear is a good thing, in the beginning & i watched this i felt the WD's were gonna last for months, BUT im on day 32 now & things are looking up!! I can sleep most nights & im back to work. Just the occassional bouts of depression / malaise.. But im doing IT...
Good job-- and good luck!
I agree suboxone is not the worst. What worked for me(I do not recommend this since it can lead right back into heavy use because we are addicts , but I offer it for what it is worth) is lowering yourself to 2mg. Then taking a VERY small shot of dope the day after your last sub. For me there was no withdraw to follow, just the regular mental things you have to get over with time
no, please don’t do that. the stuff out on the streets now is killing people
thank you doctor for your compassion to drug addicts.
My dr. Told me when I first started subs that a lot of ppl who have been addicts for years will always need a small dose to maintain. I've never slipped and never tested dirty or been short on my count. I started 12-24-11 on 24mg now I'm on 4 mg . Now my dr.acts like he wants me to taper 1mg a month till I'm off, but I know if I go off this med I will use again. If I could even stay on this 4 mg dose I would be fine. Why did he say Ii may always need it and now wants me off? .
Great video, thank you for making this
I have been on Subox, for 15 years. I can not stop using it because the withdrawal is too hard to go through. I have a neck injury from the military and got addicted to the pain killers, and after a living hell from that they put me on Subox to kick the opiates, but I still needed pain med's, so they kept me on Subox. I live a great life except for if I miss a DR. apt. and can't get my strip's, or if the insurance co. wants a prior auth. then I run out of it and go into withdrawal's. They are pure hell in every sense of the word. Far worse than the opiate withdrawal's I went through from Vicodin. I live in fear all of the time worrying that I could run out. I get 90 strips a month and they are enough to last me 3 month's but the DR. and insurance co. said I can not horde the drug or I can be arrested over it, but if I don't and run out, then I am in huge trouble. I don't want to have the Dr. cut me down to one strip a day, because I would run the risk of running out. I can only guess how many other people have traded one addiction for another like I have with the Suboxone. Life is NOT good if I don't have them, and I have to live this way for the rest of my life. NOT COOL. At 55 my life is pretty much done, having to live on this stuff, also because it makes you into a zombie after 10 years on it.
God all your withdrawals n watching others in withdrawals n seeing people on subs n what ever there on n all you’ve seen n know n the shit life n misery in the past on drugs n your a very good dr , my biggest question is why the hell do you need meetings ,
Susan Webb The meetings are a place for understanding, relating to one another, and most importantly- SUPPORT! It's a place to share your daily struggles/stressors - and NOT feel judged. It's a place where you can see that, "you are not alone"
Are you still doing this
Don’t get me wrong I do know n understand a lot of recovering addicts need different forms of help n what ever works for them ,is great, but there is a small minority of people like me I truely believe withdraw n just get on with life n no longer bothered about drugs n are cued , no drug cravings ever n for instance for me if I was to think about the word drugs , only things that comes to my mind is total misery on drugs n then there’s the withdrawals , a total turn off n so bloody great full to be normal again
It's not that bad. Over hyped. Taper off within 2 weeks worked for me. Simple really. Do you want freedom or ball and chain ? Need a crutch ??? Too weak to face life without being high ? Choices it's all CHOICES. Man up
You had me until the 'high' part. People on Suboxone are not 'high'. If they are, it is the weakest high on the planet.
@@SuboxDoc really ? I have dozens of people who are high on my subs everyday. Yes also in prison they snort Suboxone. It's better than herion high. Yes doctors are clueless. My old doctor never believed me either. , Yes Suboxone gets us high. Your really BRAINWASHED to think it doesn't get us high ?? Really ? Wow all that education, yet de y simple FACT TRUTH. Suboxone is also more powerfull than morephene I'm sure. Many people get high on it , also a great pain killer. I have 3 blown discs protruding onto nerves and once I stopped take Suboxone I feel pain daily now. Suboxone gets us high. Most addicts on subs will deny , lie , they dont want to be known as take it to get high. Yes it gets most people high. It's a powerfull drug
piease answer this doc u r great how long do i have too teeeest neg nfor suboxone?????????????????????
What a great guy!
YOU Sir !! Scare THE SHIT OUT OF ME !! BUT, I will do this when all is said & done. Going on day 3 of WD's from 3yrs sub use
Fear is a good thing for anyone trying to stay away from opioids. It will serve you well!
It's just the big drug company want your money. I went into rehab 3 years ago. I was kicking a 18 years of pain pills. Then on methadone the last 6 years. You don't need 24 or 32 mg. of suboxone. I took a lot of pain meds and do not fill I needed to be on 24 mg.of suboxone. they sent me home with 90 8mg. of suboxone and Valium.and soma and Lunesta.I fill they just wanted me to come back and detox from all the drugs they sent me home on. I wish I did my homework before i went to rehab. I'm off of all pain meds now. good luck to all.
How did it go? I'm about to do it again after 3.5 years on this trash. it served its purpose but I'm done with it. I need truth!
Your truth is going to be wherever you find it, I found mine in NA. It's not a cult, religion, or brainwashing. It's a group of people that have learned how to live with an addiction that left untreated will kill. The Doctor is offering his treatment, he may be right, you may be able to feel less pain and discomfort if you want to buy your dope from him every month for the rest of your life. But when you quit, you will still be left with the disease. So common sense says find someone who has found a way to stay clean without dope. I found people in NA that have figure it out, thank God I had the sense to listen.
This video should be listed as an advertisement.... On top of that, this person, claiming to be a Doctor (I hope he doesn't have a license but my fear is that he does) admits he was a failure at stopping using in a program that has millions of addicts recovering dope free. The scary thing is that he is promoting a drug that he claims to prescribe, stating that he makers of Suboxone pay him nothing. Sure, those Doctors that prescribe Suboxone don't need help from the makers, they have a built in monthly income from every patient. Anywhere from $75 to $150 from up to 150 "patients" per month.. That's between $11,000 to $22,000 per month to spend 15 minutes tops with whomever has the cash. Of course there is a bias. Suboxone, is simply a way to placate the masses after they have been allowed to become addicted to the drug makers other money makers. It's a built in ATM for the Doctors office.
Cost me $275 per visit here in Nevada and my visits were often 5 minutes long