How Long Should You Stay On Suboxone?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024
- Dr Craig Swainey, who specializes in addiction medicine and is in long-term recovery himself, shares his perspective on how long someone should stay on buprenorphine medications like Suboxone, Subutex, or Bunavail in their recovery journey.
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Why is getting off suboxone more physically and emotionally / mentally harder and in many cases 20X worse than if you just had to get off say a 10 year oxy addiction? If I had to do it all over again I would have never ever touched suboxone, and found a dr who would of tapered me off the oxy in rehab setting over a period of a month or two. The problem is the suboxone is a LIFE LONG PRESCRIPTION, no matter what you all are saying and you know it. It’s disgusting and immoral, and a long term problem being traded for a 3-6 month strategy.
That would never happen because there’s no $$$$$ in doing what’s right, just what pays and makes stakeholders rich. In my opinion the addictionologists and Dr’s are a huge part of the problem because they aren’t and will never do what should be done to actually help people like the origins of their professions were supposed to. They aren’t willing to stand up for what’s right because they’ll lose their retirement, pension, etc you name it. It’s called leverage and they are just as bad as the cartels injecting fentanyl into our precious USA.
In the end, God wins and will judge ALL
Drop it ASAP.......day 97 clean from it after 15.5yrs
But then again maybe you had a loving family who was always there for you who supported you and financially aided you in your younger years . Me , I had to work , ain’t no time to be withdrawling ! Ain’t no Time to nodd off , that’s why I only take oxy. Suboxone made me nodd off more than oxy , it’s really strong but gave me crazy depression and the worse anxiety and no confidence
sub is life saving. don't knock it.
Really? I've been on 16mg for about 8 years and ready to stop taking it as I miss my sex drive and just over all energy. Did you taper or how did you do it? And how bad was it?
I've been on it for about 15 years at this point . I need to get off of it myself. It destroyed my teeth without a doubt . The doctors don't tell you the side effects.
@@protoolsfanatic7276 I was on it for seven years and stopped in 2015 my sex drive really never came back. Get your testosterone levels checked because it will make them low and that leads to less libido
On it for 3.5 years now and i have no interest in stopping. I know what it would lead to.
Sounds like he's just starting to rattle a little bit himself !
😂😂😂😂 withdrawal is a hell of a time
I feel that from a very young age there's an imbalance in your brain chemistry. That makes you dependent on certain medications to supplement the imbalance
Yes! spot on. I am alcoholic and ask why can others drink a few and get away with it? Well I think it's in the brain so I avoid alcohol and am sober 35 years but I am still lacking something. I have been on medication and have found buprenorphine not only kills my severe chronic pain but it helps my depression. so bottom line is I am staying on buprenorphine. Address the underlying stress? Ok but it's in the brain so it is not that easy "Had a tough childhood? etc etc" these things add to it but the underlying issue is my brain is not normal talking only goes so far as do the 12 steps which BTW are in my life.
As a long term opioid addict for more then a decade my doctor says to think about being on Suboxone like a diabetic thinks about taking insulin, for my entire life time..
That's kind of toxic
Mine told me the same. It's not though. It's a medication that shouldn't be used for ever. They are making hell of money off of you. Of course they want to keep their patients. After so many years you should be stable enough to go down some and start to taper. It's been a handcuff for me and I'm sick of it
So what is the LONG term solution? I see no issue with lifetime prescriptions
My doctor said that too? Is that the playbook for Addiction Specialist's or "Doctors" to get people on it? I know those doctors get way bigger kickbacks from the government, and make good money being in the field of an addiction specialist.
You used to be a slave to the dope man, subs make you a slave to the doctor
Ya I'm still on it lol 90 a month... For 8 years. Still to this day. It sucks to go dry off this stuff. Ive tryed. Allways failed tho.
It’s really hard I’m thinking about jumping cold
@@fentanylanonymous also dont make the jump from 3 or 4 a day u gotta spend an extra week coming down... If I can help I will.... If u need any advice or tricks to help lmk..
You have to taper down. I did it. Jumping off without tapering will not work.
I lowered down to 2mg then to 1mg. I used Kratom for a week after to help with the w/d but research Kratom before using it.
Has anyone gotten mouth trouble not teeth but like strings or cords in mouth and neck?
Sounds like his WD might be kicking In a little 😂
What are your thoughts on using subutex for detox like when you are detoxing off norcos
Hello! Please advise? I jumped from high doses of opiods to nothing for 24 hours, then macrodosed suboxone and avoided WD. Ive only been on sub for 4 days ramped up to 22mg and then back down to 11 by day 3. Now on day 4 I am trying to take only 6 or 8mg because of fear of addiction, plus I am not reacting well to suboxone.
I probably won't get an answer before I will need to make a choice, as I read you can be addicted after only 4 or 5 days use, and that WD from subs are 10x worse than heroin?
You cannot become addicted after 4 or 5 days use. Takes at least 30 days to form an addiction to Suboxone. My husband unfortunately died of heroin in the end so I'm familiar with opiates. You'll be ok and I'm proud of you seriously 💖trust God, talk to him, I think you'll be just fine!!
No it's not worse. It's longer but much milder. Much , much. But you need to reduce a LITTLE at a time and for a longer while to avoid as much discomfort as possible.
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Are you sure about that? Asking seriously. I have heard people that said that suboxone was way worse than heroin withdrawal. What if you have been on suboxone for many years?
I'm sick i been on them for 7 years before that 2 and I want to not use but I'll have good days then boom the meds don't work I take little more and feel like crsp now any suggestions
why stop if its working??
Because it's bad for you long term and after years of not using you should be able to successfully taper and start to live without relying on it. Key word is "should" easier said than done
What about kratom
I'm staying on it for the rest of my life.
@ 3:47 is he dripping or is it just me?
From coke?
Seems like the video was shot in the winter time. He's a doctor that deals with people all the time. He's probably sick or has a cold.
Used subs for 7 years a living hell. Now 8.5 years totally drug free. Stay away from them
I want to use suboxone to get off 8 month 20gpd Kratom habit. I know like you say it's not a long term solution but i have been burned horrible and i just want to get off this and it was so horrible that i will never take another substance a gain. This hurt so much i will never do this stuff or any drug again as long as i live. Problem is Suboxone is stronger than Kratom so you should use kratom to get off suboxone so that is a sort of a conundrum cause i def don't want to get addicted to suboxone.
People have told me that taking Suboxone just a few times like 3-4 days you can become dependant on it cause of the long half life. Is this true?? I was thinking of taking Suboxone like this: 2mg-1.5mg-1mg-.5mg-.25mg Or 1mg-.75mg-.5mg-.25mg. Which one should i go with and would i become dependant on it like that? Probably start on the 2nd day of the jump cause i hear the 3-5 days are the worst? Will i become dependant on suboxone using it for 4 days like that?? Please i really donb' need another addiction
Lots of answers to that question
Only one answer; Yes you will, try to stop immediately.
I will suggest to cold turkey. You're the only person I have ever met in comments talking about using suboxone to taper off Kratom, i have only heard about people using Kratom to stop using opioids but hey everyone is different and you got to do what you need to do to get off those drugs. Trust me you'll feel great with the freedom you get without having to think about medicines all the time.