This is just what Oletta's been looking for. She just told me last night, James, I need to add MOAR RGB to my system. I'm done with static red LEDs, I need some RAINBOW action! Also she wants more fans as she favors air cooling over the tedious water cooling methods. This'll be a great video to direct her to. Thank you so much Mike! 🔥🔥
Interesting review for me as considering replacing my F15 but sadly I have a mix of 200mm dc and 120mm dc/pvm fans. Proves not all is as advertised and how important reviews like this are to ratify issues before buying. Thanks for reviewing Mike and Kath👍
Just incase for those that are curious about the hub not being able to control 3-pin DC fans: 1. 3 pin fans control the fan speed by varying the amount of voltage. So lesser voltage = slower fan. But after a certain point, if there is too little voltage, there isnt enough juice to power the fan. So this is where 4pin PWM fans come in. 2. The 4th pin on PWM fans is for PWM signaling. For these type of fans, they are receiving the full 12 volts. However, their fan speed is controlled by a duty cycle. So if I want 60% fan speed, within a certain duty cycle, the fan will quickly toggle on and off, it will off for 40% of the duty cycle to achieve the 60% of fan speed. 3. So if you connect a 3 pin fan to the pwm hub, the 3pin fan will always receive the full 12V. It cannot vary its speed because it does not have the 4th pin to receive the pwm signal. (This is my very basic understanding, and might have some inaccuracies. I think someone else can explain it better! AdamantIT did a great video on this topic.)
Hi Mike I used the upHere 5V PWM ARGB LED system @ £20 from Amazon you recommended me in a recent stream as my motherboard had no RGB controller. The three supplied fans look great when lit up, the only problem I had was finding somewhere to place the unit in my micro atx case.
Very good imformation Mike about the 3 pin fans , most of these type hubs are the same, funny enough with my Gamemax f15 200m 3 pin fans they could not by controlled by the hub PWM motherboard asus software but you could use the controller 3 speed settings, just for testing i plugged them straight into the motherboard but Asus fan expert couldnt even detect them at all, just ran full speed.
Not sure if I need one of these yet? Building a new 12th Gen rig in white. Thinking about the i5-12500 non K model. I bought a Gigabyte H610M S2H DDR4 motherboard. I have 16GB of 3200 ram that I plan on painting white. No RGB on memory. Thanks as always for the great review Mike and Lady Kath. Take care all. Cheers
@@mikesunboxing Hey Mike... I'm going to use the GIM1 gaming case in white. It's a chunky boy for sure. Maybe you could get one from GIM for review? I paid $160.00 off Amazon US. Cheers
it is quite easy just plug the second hub into the first hub pwm and rgb ports and the signal will be copied to the second hub from the first from the motherboard
hey great video bro, i have a question, if i dont have any argb o rgb header in mi motherboard, can i use this to plug the argb fans'? THANKS A LOT BRO
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Any help when PC is off, but the fans keep spinning? I have the fan hub connected to the CPU fan header. Only controlling 6 fans for the push pull config on the AIO radiator. Using coolmaster 360 AIO Illusion series. My other fans they turn off when PC is off.
@mikesunboxing Hmm no its completely off. When I unplug the sata cable from the hub, the fans stop. Then when I plug it back, they start again. All lights turn off, all other fans that are connected to the fan header (no fan hub) they turn off. My GPU fan turn off. I got an imp...lol
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Hi Mike! I was wondering if you can recommend a fan rgb controller that can also work to individually control the fan speed? I'm new to pc as I have been a long time gaming laptop user. I recently ordered 9 120mm EKWB EK Fan loop and 2 140mm EK Fan loop. I was hoping to snag 1 or 2 fan controller but Im really really lost on which to use. I'm also on the MSI board.
there won't be one that does individual fan speed control unless it has a controller on board and it using USB and software to do it. i would settle for all fans being the same speeds but variable, discuss it more on the discord
@@mikesunboxing dang... I kinda went for the ek loop fans because of the tech review from hardware Canucks. It just completely destroys the competition. I guess I'll have to rethink now if I can maybe trade all 9 fans for a lian li ones since the ekwb fans aren't locally available here in the southeast Asia. I'll think of a way to use this since I don't really want to ramp em up. Maybe around 36_+-40 decibels for that whisper quite performance? I'll watch your msi fan curve tutorial in the mean time hehe. Thank you so much sir!
Hey Mike I really like your channel and you have great advice. I wanted to ask you If I have 10 razer kunai fans, and ordered 1 razer chroma address. rgb controller (has 6 ports), would I be able to daisy chain some of the fans to all fit on the 1 - 6 port controller? I don't care about losing individual zones for custom rgb effects if that were to be the case. Sorry if the question is too vague. Edit: I guess I commented too early I just checked and Razer devices work with MSI mystic so I will just pick up 2 of these and daisy them. I only care for same color effect and same speed across all fans so this will work great.
@@mikesunboxing Hi, again, thank you for your feedback 😁. But I found another issue... I can't find it in my regional Amazon😅. Could you please recommend me another alternative hub's that would work with non-proprietary connectors for aRGB.
am thinking about purchasing the item HA-02 you have and my mother board is X570S EDGE MAX WIFI this is a 3 pin JRAINBOW1 top mother board do not know the volts on this port thank you will it work
Can anyone help me out, my mobo doesn't have an ARGB header but I've got 4 fans in there that have ARGB only, how would I get them all working? I bought a thermalright hub but didn't realise you need an ARGB header on your mobo already :(
you need a argb controller, some cases have them built in, or you can buy ones that also have a remote control to change the lighting like the Gamemax argb fan we reviewed
What 3 pack fans are compatible with it I had like cheap uphere fans but there like a 6 pin and won’t work even though it showed it’s a 3 pin online and now I need toner then them and get more don’t know which to get now though
@@keanuzac2531 the arctic p12 pwm pst argb work and most 3pin 5 volt pwm fans like these will, the uphere 5 pack is good value and work fine just get the right ones with PWM
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This is just what Oletta's been looking for. She just told me last night, James, I need to add MOAR RGB to my system. I'm done with static red LEDs, I need some RAINBOW action! Also she wants more fans as she favors air cooling over the tedious water cooling methods. This'll be a great video to direct her to. Thank you so much Mike! 🔥🔥
I’ll get the popcorn 🍿
@@mikesunboxing LOL! ❤
@@jamesmiscellaneous nah, she not a fan, of all the hub, bub.
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thank you mucker
@@mikesunboxing You are welcome Mucker MUB HQ 😛
I can actually buy this if I wish. Thank you Mike and Kath, well done.
Our pleasure!
Interesting review for me as considering replacing my F15 but sadly I have a mix of 200mm dc and 120mm dc/pvm fans. Proves not all is as advertised and how important reviews like this are to ratify issues before buying. Thanks for reviewing Mike and Kath👍
Fair enough!
Great video thanks Mike
thanks Paul, have a great day
Just incase for those that are curious about the hub not being able to control 3-pin DC fans:
1. 3 pin fans control the fan speed by varying the amount of voltage. So lesser voltage = slower fan. But after a certain point, if there is too little voltage, there isnt enough juice to power the fan. So this is where 4pin PWM fans come in.
2. The 4th pin on PWM fans is for PWM signaling. For these type of fans, they are receiving the full 12 volts. However, their fan speed is controlled by a duty cycle. So if I want 60% fan speed, within a certain duty cycle, the fan will quickly toggle on and off, it will off for 40% of the duty cycle to achieve the 60% of fan speed.
3. So if you connect a 3 pin fan to the pwm hub, the 3pin fan will always receive the full 12V. It cannot vary its speed because it does not have the 4th pin to receive the pwm signal.
(This is my very basic understanding, and might have some inaccuracies. I think someone else can explain it better! AdamantIT did a great video on this topic.)
that is an excellent comment thank you
Hi Mike I used the upHere 5V PWM ARGB LED system @ £20 from Amazon you recommended me in a recent stream as my motherboard had no RGB controller. The three supplied fans look great when lit up, the only problem I had was finding somewhere to place the unit in my micro atx case.
glad to hear it worked out well
I fully support Mr. Bodie's Support Comment.
Very good imformation Mike about the 3 pin fans , most of these type hubs are the same, funny enough with my Gamemax f15 200m 3 pin fans they could not by controlled by the hub PWM motherboard asus software but you could use the controller 3 speed settings, just for testing i plugged them straight into the motherboard but Asus fan expert couldnt even detect them at all, just ran full speed.
the 200mm fans will detect if you set the motherboard fan header to VDC then reboot and set a curve
Not sure if I need one of these yet? Building a new 12th Gen rig in white. Thinking about the i5-12500 non K model. I bought a Gigabyte H610M S2H DDR4 motherboard. I have 16GB of 3200 ram that I plan on painting white. No RGB on memory. Thanks as always for the great review Mike and Lady Kath. Take care all. Cheers
what case are you going for? or still a work in progress
@@mikesunboxing Hey Mike... I'm going to use the GIM1 gaming case in white. It's a chunky boy for sure. Maybe you could get one from GIM for review? I paid $160.00 off Amazon US. Cheers
Maybe one day, I will see the light.. 🤔
how do you daisy chain the hubs could you maybe do a video on it please
it is quite easy just plug the second hub into the first hub pwm and rgb ports and the signal will be copied to the second hub from the first from the motherboard
Those fans that you were using you can connect three fans together can you do that on the Hub
yes you can
Mike could we please get some proper budget builds without owning a Nuclear power station, thank you in advance
coming up very soon
Do you only need the sata cabel to use it, didnt understand what the other 2 where on the oppostite side of SATA
one is PWM input signal and the other is ARGB input from the motherboard
can u connect 2 of these togeather if u have only 1 argb header on motherboard
yes you can daisy chain them indefinitely
Dang, all my TT fans are 3-pin...oh well. Great review tho, thanks mate!
hey great video bro, i have a question, if i dont have any argb o rgb header in mi motherboard, can i use this to plug the argb fans'? THANKS A LOT BRO
No you will also need an argb controller, check out our video on the gamemax argb hub controller
what about fans noise at full speed?
good or very noisy???
this is just a hub so it will depend on the quailty and speed of the fans you attach to it
@@mikesunboxing so i can attached it to any brand that's cool.
thanks mike ❤🔥
Can we get a video of you wiring 8 aRGB fans using this on Saturday Mike :P
maybe if hell freezes over :-)
Can i connect DeepCool fans to this hub? I have plans to put like 7-10 fans to my PC
As long as they are 4 pin pwm fans you can
@@mikesunboxing and the rgb works too?
how do you exactly install the cables?
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Would this work with nzxt X53 fans??? Just nzxt rgb fans in general
no i don't think so, they have non standard connectors i think
Any help when PC is off, but the fans keep spinning? I have the fan hub connected to the CPU fan header. Only controlling 6 fans for the push pull config on the AIO radiator. Using coolmaster 360 AIO Illusion series. My other fans they turn off when PC is off.
no idea that is very odd, might be a short somewhere or if the pc is sleeping and not fully off
@mikesunboxing Hmm no its completely off. When I unplug the sata cable from the hub, the fans stop. Then when I plug it back, they start again. All lights turn off, all other fans that are connected to the fan header (no fan hub) they turn off. My GPU fan turn off. I got an imp...lol
@@vi_EviL_iv This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu
Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels
Hi Mike! I was wondering if you can recommend a fan rgb controller that can also work to individually control the fan speed? I'm new to pc as I have been a long time gaming laptop user. I recently ordered 9 120mm EKWB EK Fan loop and 2 140mm EK Fan loop. I was hoping to snag 1 or 2 fan controller but Im really really lost on which to use. I'm also on the MSI board.
there won't be one that does individual fan speed control unless it has a controller on board and it using USB and software to do it.
i would settle for all fans being the same speeds but variable, discuss it more on the discord
@@mikesunboxing dang... I kinda went for the ek loop fans because of the tech review from hardware Canucks. It just completely destroys the competition. I guess I'll have to rethink now if I can maybe trade all 9 fans for a lian li ones since the ekwb fans aren't locally available here in the southeast Asia. I'll think of a way to use this since I don't really want to ramp em up. Maybe around 36_+-40 decibels for that whisper quite performance? I'll watch your msi fan curve tutorial in the mean time hehe. Thank you so much sir!
can i use that arctic p12 FAN as an exaust ?
the p12 PWM yes
how many leds can u link for each port?
leds or fans?
@@mikesunboxingleds
@@mikesunboxingfor example, i have a cooler master controller and each port can support a max of 80 leds
Honestly not sure I would estimate around 60 or three fans max on each header like with motherboard headers
@@mikesunboxing ok, thank you
Great video man but I wish you showed us complete tutorial on hooking it up so beginners can replicate. Thanks
I will soon
Great! will this work on motherboards without any rgb pins?
does it still work if my motherboard doesn't have an argb connector?
No you will need a separate argb controller for lighting, the fan side of things will still work
Hey Mike I really like your channel and you have great advice. I wanted to ask you If I have 10 razer kunai fans, and ordered 1 razer chroma address. rgb controller (has 6 ports), would I be able to daisy chain some of the fans to all fit on the 1 - 6 port controller? I don't care about losing individual zones for custom rgb effects if that were to be the case. Sorry if the question is too vague.
Edit: I guess I commented too early I just checked and Razer devices work with MSI mystic so I will just pick up 2 of these and daisy them. I only care for same color effect and same speed across all fans so this will work great.
lol glad to see you answered your own question, should all be fine
If my motherboarth have a 12v can i plug it!? It says 5v but mine is 12v
no sorry
Hi, does it supports aRGB Gen2?
I believe so
@@mikesunboxing Hi, again, thank you for your feedback 😁. But I found another issue... I can't find it in my regional Amazon😅. Could you please recommend me another alternative hub's that would work with non-proprietary connectors for aRGB.
am thinking about purchasing the item HA-02 you have and my mother board is X570S EDGE MAX WIFI
this is a 3 pin JRAINBOW1 top mother board do not know the volts on this port thank you will it work
should be fine with that
Pesky RGB, polluting my eyes with its flashing evil lol ;-)
haha you love it!
can it work with every fan?
only 4 pin pwm fans
Can anyone help me out, my mobo doesn't have an ARGB header but I've got 4 fans in there that have ARGB only, how would I get them all working? I bought a thermalright hub but didn't realise you need an ARGB header on your mobo already :(
you need a argb controller, some cases have them built in, or you can buy ones that also have a remote control to change the lighting like the Gamemax argb fan we reviewed
Can you plug ur cpu fan in?
if you want to you could but make sure the hub connects to the CPU fan header or you will get bios errors
What 3 pack fans are compatible with it I had like cheap uphere fans but there like a 6 pin and won’t work even though it showed it’s a 3 pin online and now I need toner then them and get more don’t know which to get now though
Because it shows the sp120 is a 13v but the fan hub can only take 5?? Very confused
@@keanuzac2531 the arctic p12 pwm pst argb work and most 3pin 5 volt pwm fans like these will, the uphere 5 pack is good value and work fine just get the right ones with PWM
Id cooling ha 02 - its is you?
I have no idea what you are asking
@@mikesunboxing I'm talking about the controller you removed a few months ago.
Air goo? Aren't we working and spending hard to get rid of air goo? 👨💻 So it's not an intelligent hub?
intelligent hubs are quite hard to find these days, except the corsair ones which are a considerable expense and lock you into their ecosystem
@@mikesunboxing Yes, intelligence is becoming harder to find. 🤪